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Speaker 1: The list is The Drive with Dale, Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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Speaker 2: Final hour of our coverage on location of the upmc

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Speaker 2: rooney Sports Complex. It is our ninth out of nine

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Speaker 2: shows down here for OTAs in Mini camp, and it

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Speaker 2: is the ninth out of nine practices for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Getting going right in front of us here today, so

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Speaker 2: you'll hear the moving and the shake, and you'll hear

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Speaker 2: some of the music and the horn and all those

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Speaker 2: different things in the background as it is another beautiful

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Speaker 2: day here on the south side of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: Dale, I did want to ask you.

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Speaker 2: As well too, because you know, with you being on

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Speaker 2: the mend a little bit these last couple of days,

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Speaker 2: the one nice part of that has been you've been

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Speaker 2: able to take in some different things from some different

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Speaker 2: vantage points.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to walk around.

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Speaker 2: Whereas you know, Matt and I have been kind of

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Speaker 2: under the thing here and it's great to watch the

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Speaker 2: offense in front of us. But as Matt has pointed

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Speaker 2: out a couple of times, the defense on the other

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Speaker 2: side of the field can be a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Uh, it's a challenge's just a challenge.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's you know, it's it's more than a

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Speaker 2: football field length away. I did want to ask you.

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Speaker 2: You said you've liked what you've seen from Joey Porter

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Speaker 2: Junior so far. Just just what you've observed from him

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Speaker 2: in these settings, you know, over these eight or nine practices.

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Speaker 5: I just see a confidence level with him that shows up.

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Speaker 3: He's reading it.

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Speaker 5: You know, jumping, jumping passes, getting there, you know, even

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Speaker 5: if the catch is made, he's right there. He's he

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Speaker 5: just seems like he's just on top of his game.

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Speaker 4: And we talked about Roger Jones in the last hour.

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Speaker 4: I guess it was it. But to me, he's not

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Speaker 4: a crossroads player. I mean, like it's he's good, can

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Speaker 4: he become rate?

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Speaker 6: Sure?

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Speaker 5: You know? Right? Right's he's I think he's established himself

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Speaker 5: as one of the top thirty two.

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Speaker 6: Corners in the league.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Now it's can you get

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Speaker 5: to be top fifteen?

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Speaker 7: Can you be already?

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Speaker 4: But can he be top eight?

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Speaker 6: Right? Right?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Stinctly you know those type of.

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Speaker 2: Guys, yeah, right, yep, yeah, no, absolutely, And you know

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Speaker 2: as you guys say that, Like, I'm reminded of that

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Speaker 2: clip that went around with him and Mike Tomlin last

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Speaker 2: year at practice on HBO Hard Knocks, where I think

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Speaker 2: I think Joey Porter Jr. Was like putting his contacts

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Speaker 2: in on the side of the field getting ready for practice,

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Speaker 2: and you know, Mike Tomlin jogs passed him, and you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, he gives him kind of a little a

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Speaker 2: little pump up and ready to go, and he said, hey, coach,

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to be great. I just I want

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Speaker 2: to be great so bad. And Mike Tomlin said, you will,

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Speaker 2: but not today. It's it's it's it's gonna it's gonna takes.

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Speaker 2: It's a process, especially at that position. Like I think

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Speaker 2: you could probably argue, right, Matt, that other than other

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Speaker 2: than quarterback, that might be one of the most difficult

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Speaker 4: Without question, And it's a little volatile game to game,

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Speaker 4: year to year what they ask of you, you know,

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Speaker 4: Like I always I get ap Pro Football Focus every day,

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Speaker 4: but I don't really trust like their coverage rates or

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Speaker 4: their cornerback grounds.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of context that's missed a.

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Speaker 4: Lot of context, and what Joey's asked to do is

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Speaker 4: a lot more difficult than what most corners or some

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Speaker 4: corners are gonna be asked to do. Hey, follow around

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Speaker 4: Jamar Chase all day. Well that's different than playing Cover

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Speaker 4: two all day. No, no, no question about it. But

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Speaker 4: you know, Dale mentioned his maturity and looks like he

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Speaker 4: belongs to year three. I mean it's if you're hitting

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Speaker 4: the prime years of your career. That being said, we

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Speaker 4: can all use a mentor, and I think Slay will

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Speaker 4: be great for him. You look at Slay's career and

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Speaker 4: past defenses. You know, Patrick Peterson at the end wasn't

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Speaker 6: They just have a different streat point.

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Speaker 5: Slay versus Peterson both great players.

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Speaker 6: It's not the same though, there's different mentality. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 6: like Peterson largely was never tested early in his career.

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Speaker 5: He was yeah five back, Slay like Slave was a junkyard,

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Speaker 5: He's a second round back.

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Speaker 2: Right right, kind of like paying a scratching claw a

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Speaker 6: So he's got that edge to him.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure Peterson was a five star recruit, could have

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Speaker 4: for him, but he was the best player in the

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Speaker 4: Where that doesn't mean he's not tough. I mean he

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Speaker 4: was one of my favorite interviews we ever did.

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Speaker 6: With Oh he's great, he was really really he's fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Fans see why he's doing that media thing now, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But I do see, and trust me, the history does

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Speaker 4: isn't kind to over thirty corners. But Slay and Peterson

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Speaker 4: it's still to me at one of those top thirty

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Speaker 4: two corners for sure. Like you mentioned where Peterson was

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Speaker 4: kind of hanging on twilight yea, yeah, yeah, you know

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Speaker 4: already talking about maybe safety or you know, right, they're not.

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Speaker 2: It's not the same so you've mentioned you just mentioned

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Speaker 2: to me maybe last week or something like that. All

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Speaker 3: Blend together a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But you, like you just said, what they asked him

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Speaker 2: to do is is challenging, Like it's it's it's what

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Speaker 2: on his plate. It's not easy? Do you do you

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Speaker 2: have any ways in your mind? And you know, we

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Speaker 4: I wonderdo I mean he to me? Slay's such a

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Speaker 4: He's done the Porter, So he's done that stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: So I wonder will they just left right it more

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Speaker 4: or will Joey always still follow one? It's just another

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they didn't do it as much last year.

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Speaker 5: No, they didn't, all right, And I think that was

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Speaker 5: because that was you know, Dante Jackson just I don't

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jackson limited what they could do quite a bit.

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Speaker 5: I think Slake gives then that ability, you know, And.

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Speaker 4: I think they prefer to left right it, yeah, as

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Speaker 4: his assignment's very easy. I follow Jerry Rice all day long.

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Speaker 3: It's everybody else.

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Speaker 4: But now they're ten have to adjust sure if he

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Speaker 4: goes in motion? Now who do I got all this

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Speaker 3: Your communication better be crisp.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if you can left right it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's really the ideal thing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you needs to be able to do.

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Speaker 4: I think so too. Maybe there's some weeks where the

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Speaker 6: You can still Garret.

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Speaker 4: Wilson in week one is much better than.

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Speaker 6: The number two clips in the bag. Yeah, yeah, but

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And and these guys will scheme you up to

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Speaker 4: no end to you know, like scheme porter into the

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Speaker 4: slot because he's covering these guys. I mean, you could

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Speaker 2: Left right in right, yeah, yeah, yeah, where.

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Speaker 4: The corners are at at the snap of the ball.

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Speaker 3: That makes some sense.

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Speaker 2: And again and on the lines of this conversation here

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Speaker 2: luxury it is to have a guy with a skill

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Speaker 2: set like Minca. If you're if you're able to left

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Speaker 3: Does that does that Porter's rookie year to deal? Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: Week four he said I wanted to follow Nu Kopkins

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Speaker 6: Okay, you're doing that.

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Speaker 2: Does Does that give you more freedom to use Menca

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Speaker 4: I don't think that part matters as much. But I

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Speaker 4: do think having Thornhill gives you a lot more Minka

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Speaker 4: Okay freedom because Thornhill can be your single high Thornhill

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Speaker 4: has a lot of versatility as well, like a kz

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Speaker 4: bit better at all facets and again, MinC is like

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Speaker 4: the best deep middle guy in the league, and if

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Speaker 4: it could have one trait from a safety, that's what

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Speaker 4: I want. So you don't want them to get a

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Speaker 4: But he's also played linebacker and slot and I mean

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Speaker 4: he was Brian Branch in Alabama before he was before

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Speaker 4: Brian Branch existed, you know. So, yeah, he could.

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Speaker 3: Play let the team. He led the team and tackles.

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Speaker 3: Two years ago, Mia Fitzpatrick did.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like, if you play the Ravens, he could

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Speaker 4: follow Mark Andrews around or Kittle or whoever. You know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, so I think with their defensive personnel as

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Speaker 4: a whole, Minka will do more stuff I guess is

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Speaker 4: a short wave of age. Yeah, you know, but mostly still,

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's gonna major in playing center field because

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Speaker 4: he's the best at yeah.

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Speaker 5: Right, yeah, I mean that's what he does. Yeah, and so,

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Speaker 5: uh you know, when you have that eraser, use it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And again it's it's it's a unique trait

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Speaker 2: to be able to do that at the at the

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Speaker 2: level that Mika Fitzpatrick does. What that means for your defense,

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Speaker 2: what you're able to do with your other ten guys

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Speaker 2: on the football field, and you know it is. It's

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Speaker 2: funny too, Matt like it all. It all gets back to,

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Speaker 2: When the when, when your when your pass rush gets

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Speaker 4: That whole conversation was complimentary stuff. And pass rush isn't

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Speaker 4: Man. That's a word I've been using since he's been

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Speaker 3: Not just out here taking it all in. He's no,

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Speaker 4: And he's a year further removed from a really bad injury.

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Speaker 4: But even just warming up, you know, like he'll throw

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Speaker 5: It looks like a middle infielder exactly, yes, drop down

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Speaker 4: Right right right, it doesn't matter, and it comes with

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Speaker 3: I said this. I think you guys will get a

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Speaker 2: I uh, we had a little little neighborhood shindig gathering,

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Speaker 2: I certainly, I don't even know if. I don't even

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Speaker 6: I'm talking about the kids.

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Speaker 3: No, I let them. I let them be this time.

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Speaker 2: And of course, as you guys can imagine, you know,

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Speaker 3: Were all like, well, it's it been like watching Aaron

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Speaker 2: And what I said to them was I said, if

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Speaker 3: Right, Like I belong, I know what I'm doing.

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Speaker 3: But it's just different with what you watch.

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Speaker 4: And you watched all the quarterback drills, Okay, I mean

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Speaker 3: The same neighborhood, yes at least, yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's it's you know, it's like listening to Howard Starner

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Speaker 4: Bit different your dad playing the violin.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 2: First, you know Verst some student at CMU that's clearly

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt williamsons

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Speaker 2: Back here at the upmc rooney Sports Complex for this

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Speaker 2: special on location edition of The Drive. West Shuler here

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Speaker 2: with Matt Williamson and Dale LOLLI penultimate segment of the

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Speaker 2: Of course, the football pretty well, we were all just

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Speaker 3: It is I mean, guys, it's it is.

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Speaker 2: It's it's like watching a you know, someone does stand

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it is.

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Speaker 2: You can see why he is one of the point

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Speaker 3: Optimistic about what he still has left in the tank.

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Speaker 5: It is like watching Ozzie Smith play shortstop.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, initial impression of Aaron. You know, first

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Speaker 9: As far as he can tell, you know, I still

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00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,480
Speaker 9: think he's at the top of his game. I think

443
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,359
Speaker 9: he's a top quarterback in the league. And you know,

444
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,359
Speaker 9: you go through and free agency and you know you

445
00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,199
Speaker 9: watch all you know, the available free agents and quarterbacks

446
00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,920
Speaker 9: and you know, Aaron uh, you know, was extremely impressive.

447
00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,800
Speaker 9: I mean, he still throws the ball very well. You know,

448
00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,240
Speaker 9: he's accurate, he's so smart and you can see his

449
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,720
Speaker 9: decision making, doesn't take a lot of sacks, doesn't turn

450
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 9: the ball over. You know, it was exciting, you know, opportunity.

451
00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,679
Speaker 9: You know, when when when that started to to to

452
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,400
Speaker 9: become a possibility for us. You know, it was really

453
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,880
Speaker 9: you know, really hopeful that that it would all work out.

454
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Speaker 7: And you know, I'm glad. I'm glad that it did.

455
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 8: This kind of a plus to any sport. But how

456
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,400
Speaker 8: does a guy who's not a Hall of Famer coach

457
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:05,880
Speaker 8: a guy who's one of the best to.

458
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Speaker 7: Do with you guys? Well, you know, I think it's

459
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 7: you know, I think.

460
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,399
Speaker 9: It's just part of that that relationship and you know,

461
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,640
Speaker 9: realizing that, you know, from my perspective, you know, there's

462
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 9: so much to learn from Aaron, so much to learn

463
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 9: from his experience and how he sees things, how he

464
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,080
Speaker 9: sees the game. And I think, you know, part of

465
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Speaker 9: you know, our relationship now and you know, coach player

466
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 9: type of relationship is me you know, understanding that, understanding

467
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,679
Speaker 9: how you know, how he sees it. You know, the

468
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,160
Speaker 9: ways that he's been coached in the past. That's important

469
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 9: to me. What's worked, what hasn't you know, what what

470
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,439
Speaker 9: is helpful to him, what isn't you know? Those are

471
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Speaker 9: all things that we're gonna you know, talk through and

472
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,879
Speaker 9: and work out as we you know, prepare for Latrobe

473
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Speaker 9: and the season beyond.

474
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Speaker 4: How much does it help having a level of comfort

475
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 4: not only.

476
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 7: With us, with him too.

477
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 9: Between you two, I certainly think it is helpful for me, uh,

478
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 9: you know for sure, you know, just having having a

479
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,640
Speaker 9: past and his with Aaron, I think, you know, knowing

480
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 9: who the person is and I think that's the biggest thing,

481
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,159
Speaker 9: and you know, and knowing like, Okay, well this is

482
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 9: this is a guy that you know, we got along

483
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 9: very well, you know, in the time that we spent together,

484
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 9: and you know, it was very excited, you know, to

485
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 9: to see him the first you know, I saw him

486
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,639
Speaker 9: a couple of years ago when I started coaching for

487
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Speaker 9: the Chargers and you know, ran into him when we

488
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 9: played the Jets, and you know, it was just awesome

489
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 9: to see him. And you know, now to to be

490
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 9: in this situation where he's here, you know, in Pittsburgh

491
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 9: and I have a chance to work with him on

492
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 9: a daily basis, you know, it's really a special opportunity

493
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Speaker 9: for me for you know, for a lot of different reasons,

494
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Speaker 9: personal and and and just the growth.

495
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 6: Uh.

496
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Speaker 9: You know that it will provide me, you know, as

497
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Speaker 9: a coach, being able to coach a player of his,

498
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 9: you know, experience number one, and certainly the success that

499
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 9: he's had and you know, and also you know, being

500
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 9: able to learn uh you know from him is going

501
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 9: to be is going to be very valuable for for

502
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Speaker 9: my development.

503
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Speaker 2: Did you play a big part in basically like the

504
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Speaker 2: recruiting of him here?

505
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Speaker 6: Uh?

506
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Speaker 9: No, you know, not really, you know he he uh

507
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 9: when he came in for his visit, you know, it

508
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 9: was it was great. I actually I knew that something

509
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 9: was going on. You know, Mike and Omar we were

510
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 9: We're scheduled to be at a at a pro day,

511
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 9: and all of a sudden, it was like eight and

512
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 9: o'clock morning and I saw them both walk by my office.

513
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 9: I'm like, Okay, something's going on, but I didn't know

514
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 9: exactly what figured. Aaron maybe shown up at some point,

515
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 9: and sure enough, you know, maybe about an hour later,

516
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 9: he walked right into to my office. You know, I

517
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 9: just had no idea, you know, nobody gave me a

518
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 9: warning or anything. Aaron just walked in, and you know,

519
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 9: it was awesome, you know, it was it was great

520
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 9: to see him, and you know, being able to spend

521
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 9: some time with him, you know like that, and you know,

522
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Speaker 9: and just respecting his you know, his process and you know,

523
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 9: in his his timeline, and you know that was uh,

524
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 9: you know, I think I think that's something that you know,

525
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 9: was expressed from from the top of our organization down

526
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 9: and certainly you know, from our standpoint was just hey, man,

527
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 9: like this is this is a special place, you know,

528
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,959
Speaker 9: with a bunch of special people, you know, a special

529
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 9: tradition and history and you know, one of the you know,

530
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 9: truly iconic organizations in the in the National Football League.

531
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 9: And you know, I think it ended up being a

532
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 9: good fit for Aaron.

533
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Speaker 3: He said, you are the smoothest drop he's ever seen.

534
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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know what it kind of compliment

535
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,479
Speaker 2: is that for you when he says something like that,

536
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 2: And how much were you able to teach him early on?

537
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 7: You know, I don't know.

538
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,719
Speaker 9: You know, we we had a great time together. It

539
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 9: was you know, Mike McCarthy's you know, first year in

540
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 9: Green Bay. We went through the quarterback school, which is

541
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 9: kind of a famous deal, you know, for for Mike McCarthy,

542
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 9: And it was so beneficial for me. I really, I

543
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 9: so much of you know, what I believe as a

544
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 9: coach and how I coached the fundamentals of playing the

545
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 9: quarterback and really, you know, even just schematically so much

546
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 9: of that. You know, I can I can take back

547
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 9: to my time in Green Bay and being around you know,

548
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 9: coach McCarthy and you know, in that quarterback school. You know,

549
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 9: it was just it was so valuable for me, and

550
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 9: you know it was fun. It was just Aaron and I,

551
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 9: you know, we were the only two there and you know,

552
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 9: I look, I still got the binder in my office

553
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 9: and it was about one hundred and twenty hours of

554
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 9: meeting time, you know, in that you know, in that

555
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 9: off season from like February to whatever it was April,

556
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 9: you know, before OTAs and all that started. So you know,

557
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 9: all those meetings, all that time on the field together,

558
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 9: you know, it really certainly helped me become a better player.

559
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 9: And I'm sure Aaron, you know, would would would echo that.

560
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 9: You know that that you know, was a big part

561
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 9: of his foundation and you know, his career and being

562
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 9: able to get off to such a great start when

563
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 9: he first became a starter, and obviously to have a

564
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 9: success that he's had over the extended period of time

565
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 9: that he has, you know, is is elite.

566
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 7: You know, it's rare.

567
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: That was Steelers quarterbacks coach Tom Arth speaking after Wednesday's practice,

568
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 2: and you can imagine heavy.

569
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers conversation there.

570
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: I spoke spo glowingly about him, as you can imagine.

571
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 3: And yeah, I like they've they've got.

572
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 2: A background together, they've got some some common ground already.

573
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: They were with with the Packers at the at the

574
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: same time period, right when Aaron was was coming out.

575
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 5: Tom Mars had been around.

576
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 3: But with the Colts for a few seasons, spent that.

577
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 6: Off season with Aaron Rodgers.

578
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Speaker 4: So yeah, and I hear in the league this long

579
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 4: to you as you mentioned, no doubt you've seen him

580
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 4: when he was with the Chargers and all those different things.

581
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 4: And and I think people do who Aaron Rodgers was.

582
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 3: People certainly will certainly know who Aaron Rodgers is.

583
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 2: But you know, for for for them to have some

584
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: basis of a relationship obviously already before Aaron even got here,

585
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 2: I think that that's got to help, you know, the

586
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 2: proverbial hopping on a moving train.

587
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 4: I would think. I mean, again, if Rogers them in

588
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,719
Speaker 4: the league this long, he's probably got a relationship with

589
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 4: just about the summery, you know, and what they do

590
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 4: going forward is obviously more important than than anything. But

591
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 4: I do keep bringing up Arthur Smith's history within the system,

592
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,199
Speaker 4: the the floor ties, you know, all those things, and

593
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 4: I don't care what system it is. I don't think

594
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 4: Rogers is going to take long at all to master.

595
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 4: It's not like understand that, I mean master it. And

596
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 4: we'll see how it's relationship, I mean somebody we never know,

597
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 4: but I'm sure it sounds like it's starting well. But

598
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 4: see what his relationships are with the coaching staff and

599
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 4: all those things. But man, it's really optimistic now. And

600
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 4: you can just even listen to our voice that yeah,

601
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 4: he's not publicly doing cartwheels, but you could tell he's

602
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 4: pretty excited. This is pretty cool. We could be pretty

603
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 4: good at this position.

604
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely, How could you not be optimistic? How

605
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: could you not be excited about it? And yeah, he's

606
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: he's got a real kind of interesting background in his

607
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 2: coaching career. Tom Tom Marth does you know, started in

608
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 2: the collegiate ranks with offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at

609
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 2: John Carroll.

610
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 3: Then became that.

611
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 4: John Carroll's a football factory.

612
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 2: Football football factory coach, coach GM and it's it's crazy,

613
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: and that's where he's from is from Cleveland.

614
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 3: That's obviously where John Carroll is located.

615
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 4: We're not we're not hold that against we won't hold.

616
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 2: That against No, it's a it's okay, listen, we like

617
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 2: some people from Cleveland.

618
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 4: Like two or three days after I was hired, there

619
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 4: was the whole scouting staff where we're at this bar

620
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 4: in Cleveland, and they all introduced us.

621
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 6: In our new scow.

622
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 4: Matt Williamson from Pittsburgh dumped on my.

623
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: Head a lot of jealousy in those in those foods

624
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,959
Speaker 2: from from that from that side of the congregation.

625
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 3: Uh so yeah.

626
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 2: So he was with John Carroll from twenty ten to

627
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,239
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, different roles, this oc quarterback coach up the

628
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 2: head coach there for for four seasons as well. Then

629
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 2: he went to Chattanooga as a head coach for two years,

630
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: Akron as the head coach for two years. Uh and

631
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: then before uh coming here to the Pittsburgh Steelers organization,

632
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: was the pass game uh specialist pass game coordinator for

633
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Chargers as well too, So extensive extensive background.

634
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: This is his second year. Second okay, yeah, this is

635
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 2: his second year as well. Two so yeah, you know,

636
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 2: getting the the opportunity to to once again work with

637
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: a high level, future Hall of Fame type quarterback. But yeah,

638
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: you're you are absolutely right. In those seven minutes, you

639
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 2: can kind of hear the and I think the enthusiasm

640
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 2: in his in his tone.

641
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and everyone around us has the same tone, you know,

642
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 4: like right right, Like I'm sure there was some listeners.

643
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 4: I mean, we're all on Twitter. I mean I've had

644
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 4: a million tweets. I don't want him to go with Rogers,

645
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 4: just go with Rudolph. He's been waiting now too long.

646
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. If you were down here, you wouldn't

647
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 4: think that.

648
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 3: Exactly right, It is exactly right, you would, right.

649
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 6: Yeah.

650
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 4: I am no one in this No one that I'm

651
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 4: looking at thinks that.

652
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 3: No, not at all.

653
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,479
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anybody down here that's rolling their

654
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: eyes about his presence.

655
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 4: Some level of excitement.

656
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think once we get to training camp and

657
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 5: people see yeah, yeah what it looks like no, get no,

658
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 5: get it. Yeah, it'll it'll be obvious.

659
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: I think when like like Russell Wilson had some of that,

660
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: had a lot of that yes, yes, this is this

661
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Speaker 3: is better better, this is a different.

662
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Speaker 6: Beats this goes to eleven, right, it goes to eleven.

663
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 3: Why not just make ten louder because these go to it.

664
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Speaker 4: Yes, what you did right there was pretty.

665
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 3: Nice to Yeah, it's just effortless. Everything just looks effortless.

666
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: And your right there when we finally get the training

667
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: camp and you know, like there's a guy and sometimes

668
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: more than one, but there's a guy at every training

669
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: camp that it feels like every day, you know, somebody

670
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: in the stands or somebody on the field would get

671
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: a video of George Pickens making a crazy circus one

672
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: handed catch, right, and it blows up.

673
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 3: All over social media.

674
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: That's gonna happen with Aaron Rodgers and a throw that

675
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: he makes about every single day in Latrop.

676
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Speaker 6: No doubt, Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

677
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: Yes, we have got to get to our final break here.

678
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Speaker 2: As we bring this thing on home led Zeppelin style

679
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: down the home stretch, we'll get into some final kind

680
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Speaker 2: of observations and thoughts as we wrap this thing up on.

681
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Speaker 3: The other side.

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Speaker 2: It is a special edition of the Drive West Huler

683
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: Here with Dale Lalli and Matt Williamson at the upmc

684
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Speaker 2: rooney Sports Complex on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

685
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: Audio Network.

686
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Speaker 1: Least, He's the Drive with and Matt Williamson on your

687
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven home of the Black and Gold

688
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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio.

689
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: It's our final segment of mini camp coverage here on

690
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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

691
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Speaker 3: It is a special edition of.

692
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Speaker 2: The Drive West Yuler with Matt Williamson and Dale Lawley

693
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Speaker 2: here to close us down on this final day before things.

694
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Speaker 3: Will go a little quiet, hopefully, right. You better stay

695
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Speaker 3: out of the news.

696
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Speaker 2: You better be quiet over these next six or seven

697
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Speaker 2: weeks as Dale, you and me both, I promise you

698
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Speaker 2: I'll stay out of the news as well too and

699
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: be nice and quiet, as I'll be out of town

700
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Speaker 2: a few times here over the next six or seven

701
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: weeks as well to a family holiday July fourth trip,

702
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: and then a couple of beach trips with my family

703
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: and the in laws as well too that we're looking

704
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Speaker 2: forward to. But before we get to any end all

705
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: of that general and this is our you know, ninth

706
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: of ninth practices that we've been out here for the

707
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: last few weeks. Six Ota practice is now three of

708
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: these many camps.

709
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 4: Twenty seven hours of coverage.

710
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: Twenty seven hours of coverage, right, biggest thing at the

711
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: forefront of your mind, that observation thought something that you

712
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: didn't you weren't a place that you weren't at, you know,

713
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Speaker 2: three weeks ago.

714
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Speaker 3: Something.

715
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: It can be an individual, it can be a unit,

716
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: It can be a bigger picture thing. It could be

717
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: something very nuanced, but something that you're feeling differently good

718
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: or bad about here today on practice number nine that

719
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Speaker 2: might not have been the case two three weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to kind of toe the line here in

721
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Speaker 4: terms of what we're allowed to talk about.

722
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm not gonna I know, it's not the

723
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: easiest question to answer no, because.

724
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Speaker 4: I'm not going to mention any specifics, but I have

725
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 4: an eyebrow raised or an year open to more scheme

726
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 4: changes on both sides of the ball than I might

727
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 4: have expected. Okay, just not massive overhaul, you know. I

728
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 4: mean they're not gonna run the running shoots.

729
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: Or like bringing in the chip Kelly up.

730
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Speaker 4: There's a couple of things I've seen that a guy

731
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 4: will keep to myself that I can't wait to get

732
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 4: back at camp and say, is that something that's real?

733
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 4: Or then we can talk and then we'll talk about

734
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 4: it right, all right, and you'll hear me a camp.

735
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 4: Go so I saw this at mini camp and now

736
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 4: we're seeing it at camp or that. If you're with

737
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 4: the team, or if you've done this as long as Dale,

738
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 4: you realize these practice seconds minutes are so valuable that

739
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 4: if they spend a lot of time practicing something, it's

740
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Speaker 4: not an accident.

741
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: They're gonna use it or a lease experiment with it.

742
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 4: And it's not reinventing the wheel or anything. But there's

743
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 4: a couple of things on both sides of the ball

744
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 4: that I've just open to change.

745
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I see a team. To me, guys, I think

746
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 5: it's being slept on a little bit. Yeah, I think

747
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 5: there's a better football team than a lot of people

748
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 5: were giving it credit for nationally and even somewhat locally.

749
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 4: Yeah oh yeah, yeah.

750
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Speaker 6: Just win a playoff game.

751
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 5: I think just a team that could uh surprise, and.

752
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 4: That is, you know, the local sentiment with so many

753
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 4: people this seems not going just.

754
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: Get a bar draft.

755
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 4: Guys in charge, blah blah blah. Maybe they'll win, it's

756
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 4: not how they feel about it.

757
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 5: No, I think just a team that really, when I

758
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 5: look at it, they're Sue it's they've still got Super

759
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 5: Bowl aspirations.

760
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Speaker 4: Doesn't change.

761
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: Doesn't change, Yeah, no, no, it does not.

762
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Speaker 4: We brought this up yesterday. I mean just and Dale

763
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 4: and I talked about to be a text. I mean,

764
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 4: he's covered a team thirty three years. He's seen three

765
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 4: losing seasons.

766
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, since pretty crazy.

767
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Speaker 4: After truck Noll's third season, They've had seven losing seasons

768
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Speaker 4: and none of them were leak even catastrophic.

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Speaker 3: A three or four winding season.

770
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Speaker 6: Yeah, like doesn't happen.

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Speaker 4: I added up all the win loss records in those

772
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Speaker 4: seven losing seasons. That all I mean that have happened

773
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Speaker 4: in my basically my fifty two years on the planet.

774
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Speaker 4: And they still won forty percent of their game right

775
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 4: in all seven loose seasons combined, you know, like get it.

776
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 4: I mean this team wins games. I mean only the

777
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 4: Patriots have won more games in the two thousands than

778
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Speaker 4: these guys. They win games.

779
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's with now many different quarterbacks, multiple head coaches, right,

780
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: multiple general managers.

781
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, guys.

782
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 4: What they're doing.

783
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Speaker 3: Guys, if you're sitting here.

784
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Speaker 2: Today telling me that there's still the kind of upper

785
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: echelon tier right of the Chiefs and the Bills and

786
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: the Eagles and the Lions, and the Steelers aren't.

787
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Speaker 3: In that group. Fine, fine, yeah, but.

788
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Speaker 2: I think they have a great chance to be as

789
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Speaker 2: good as anybody in the next group down.

790
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Speaker 3: Does that make sense?

791
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Speaker 2: Like three or four teams that we consider not even

792
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: I'm not talking super Bowl contenders. I'm talking super Bowl favorites, right,

793
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 2: Like in Detroit and Philadelphia they expect to be in

794
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: this super Bowl. Kansas City, they expected to be in

795
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: the super Bowl.

796
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 4: The disappointing year if they don't.

797
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 5: Correctly correct something happened.

798
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Speaker 2: I you know, you were kind of talking about like

799
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Speaker 2: leveling up in tiers in terms of quarterback play.

800
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Speaker 3: I think the Steelers could be in that very next tier.

801
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think they are now.

802
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you start.

803
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 5: Looking at uh, you know some of the the Denvers, the.

804
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: Chargers, Yes, Houston.

805
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 5: Bengals, Houston, the Bengals, this seems better than Cincinnati.

806
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 4: I think so too. On West and I had that

807
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 4: exact thing conversation. I think it was Tuesday, but I'm like,

808
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 4: I'll think, awesome, great, no arguing, right, but everything else

809
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 4: train wreck right right?

810
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 3: The first round their first round draft picks left practice yesterday.

811
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Speaker 4: He's out, he's gone.

812
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Schmerz Stewart just left and hasn't practiced yet, hasn't

813
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: practiced yet. Uh, your NXT one pick for a defense

814
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: that desperately needs help and.

815
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 4: Was a guy there was a project to begin with, right,

816
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 4: I mean he needs everywherepi. Yeah, And I was saying

817
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 4: this like herbig walked around with Derek or TJ. Watt

818
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 4: like crazy Harmon's learning from Hayward. Well, Hendrickson's a nice

819
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 4: role model for your rookie. They're both unhappy, don't do anything.

820
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 4: And don't you think the backup left guard sitting there

821
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 4: eating lunch with his buddies, going what are we doing?

822
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: I mean these guys talk, they know.

823
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, Absolutely. It's a little a little a little

824
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 3: different over here, certainly.

825
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 2: And I think that's I think that's that's very well

826
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 2: said by both of you. As it relates to getting

827
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: to training camp here in a in a few weeks.

828
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: What are you most excited to get the answers to.

829
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: Is it some of that schematic stuff?

830
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 3: Is it that for me? Is it?

831
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: Is it how the offensive line can look against this

832
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: defensive line? Is it you know how guys like DK

833
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: Metcalf and Darius Slay can help take their units over

834
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: to the over the top.

835
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Speaker 3: I mean obviously all these things, but all the above.

836
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know I also want second team one obviously.

837
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 4: That group or a week, I don't know, you know, I.

838
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: Also wonder too, exactly like I'll be I'll be interested

839
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 2: to see exactly what the pecking order looks like behind

840
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: Patrick Queen at the off ball position as well too,

841
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 2: Like Peyton Wilson expected ticket big.

842
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: It's Peyton Wilson number two certainly, but going up.

843
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 6: But you're you know, you've got I mean getting holcome.

844
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 3: Back, That's what I mean, getting colehol come back. Garrison

845
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 3: at that position.

846
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 5: The depth that they built defense is really good.

847
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: Well, absolutely, it's the clear cut. Patrick Queen is number one,

848
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: Peyton Wilson is number two. Still, what they can do

849
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: with the depth behind those guys as well, if.

850
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 4: You like the defense into D line edge, inside linebacker, safety, corner,

851
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 4: if we just call it what five positions I named

852
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 4: or whatever. Corner is the only one you have any

853
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 4: concerns about that? Yeah, I mean the other ones are

854
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 4: rich and deep and might be cutting NFL players. Yeah,

855
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 4: I mean it's pretty nice to have that side of

856
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 4: the ball that fortified. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah,

857
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 4: another guy. You know, we spent the better part of

858
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 4: a segment earlier talking about Roger Jones. I can't wait

859
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 4: to watch Falton.

860
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm with you.

861
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 4: He's another one we'll be talking about like crazy, like, oh,

862
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 4: we didn't see first round pick next year. We've been

863
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 4: talking about the last yeah, you know, three days like crazy.

864
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 5: You just watch him move around. It's really looks different.

865
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: He had that same kind of eye test stuff that

866
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: we've been talking about with Aaron Rodgers here over the

867
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: last few days. Troy Falton, who's passing that same eye

868
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 2: test on the offensive line.

869
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 4: And Dale has this advantage way more than us, and

870
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 4: you know, over his career to such a strong degree,

871
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 4: you kind of just get vibes even if you don't

872
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 4: speak to a coach directly or someone in the organization directly.

873
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 4: Like over the last couple months, there wasn't a lot

874
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 4: of concern was Rogers coming or not, you know, like

875
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 4: when you're down here, just.

876
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: Kind of there was a very quiet confidence and almost

877
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: assumption that it's gonna happen.

878
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 4: But I think Falton, who's similar, Like that's Mary.

879
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: Got a guy here. Yeah, I completely agree with you

880
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 3: in that, Regalda.

881
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: And I think I think Steeler fans are going to

882
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 2: quickly remember why this guy was a top twenty pick, the.

883
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 5: Same impact that they got last year.

884
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 6: And is Zach Frazier.

885
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 4: I'm about to say the same thing.

886
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 5: I mean, you just look at where he was at

887
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 5: when he got hurt in camp last year.

888
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 3: There were people I thought he was he was yeah.

889
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. So o line, like, the secondary

890
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 4: to me is mostly a who's your weakest link position

891
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 4: totally and if you have won, you can scheme around

892
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 4: it totally. You know that's fine, But it's also nice

893
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 4: to have a top five center and maybe a top

894
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 4: five right tackle too, you know what I mean, Like

895
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 4: I would rather right, I mean, I don't want stars

896
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 4: and holes, but I like stars, and I think he

897
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 4: might be a star.

898
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

899
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could have two on that offensive line, which

900
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: and I know it was different positions, but would remind

901
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: you of the days of Pouncy and the Castro and

902
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: the two stars.

903
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 5: When you start talking about that run game and you know,

904
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 5: being better up front again.

905
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 4: Right, there are two good places to start, So I

906
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 4: feel nostalgic with the pit recruiting assistant walking around here

907
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 4: and introduce myself. And I remember when the brickishaw Ferguson

908
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 4: and Nick Mangold came out of high school. I watched

909
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 4: their tape and they both went in the first round

910
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 4: of the Jets and were long dirt. They're not going

911
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 4: the whole fame, but.

912
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 3: They were really, really really good at.

913
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 4: Center tackle exact same age for like twelve years, yep.

914
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 4: And they had a pretty darn good line for twelve years.

915
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

916
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, and high pedigree studs at those who tackle in

917
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 4: a center spot. I'll start there.

918
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 3: It goes a long way.

919
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it goes like it goes a long way, certainly

920
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 2: to to build and building the overall strength of the unit.

921
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: And like you said, even if you feel like you

922
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: might have one weak link, but one who's not as

923
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: good as the others, it's one of those things that

924
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: you can make up for the unit.

925
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: Can play at a at a at a very high level.

926
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 4: If one of your five is ways off than the others,

927
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 4: everyone knows that they're gonna tackle him, but you can

928
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 4: scheme around it. Gets Harry when there's two Yes, yes,

929
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 4: but again, if you have a stud that's also.

930
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 2: Nice, Yeah, absolutely absolutely does.

931
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: And yeah, I think you're right.

932
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: I think that's one of those quiet that Again, normally

933
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: we'd be we'd be talking about much more Troy FEALTONU

934
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: and his return of the line up here. But when

935
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: you've got Aaron Rodgers for the first time, DK Metcalf

936
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: for the first time.

937
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 4: Of Metcalf is one thing I want to throw out

938
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 4: about him. We spent a big almost a segment with

939
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 4: him and he yeah, replayed the interview, But one thing

940
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 4: that stood out to me too is he's he's kind

941
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 4: of regarded as a build up speed guy, but I

942
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 4: really know so the last day or two that when

943
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 4: the ball hits his hands and then he accelerates, he

944
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 4: shifts to another gear. Yeah, quicker than I expected from

945
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 4: him for such a big guy. It's catch burst fluid. Yeah,

946
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 4: it fluid, but abrupt, you know, like more than I

947
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 4: would have best.

948
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 3: And you see that person, you know, yeah you do,

949
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 3: and it makes a lot of sense.

950
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 4: Caught a slant, I mean, he's got like a deep post,

951
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 4: makes a lot hit sense all his hands and then

952
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 4: he doesn't just jog after he took it. Up another level.

953
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 4: It was like, oh, that would be hard to tackle

954
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 4: because he's two hundred and forty founders.

955
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: And that's why you see him shrugging off those smaller

956
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: defensive backs all the time. He's got the size, he's

957
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: got the explosion. He's got the hands too, like.

958
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 4: Force that ball him A and A is better than Yes,

959
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 4: I know the was there, but the A is better

960
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 4: than I thought.

961
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: And I feel like like he just when that ball

962
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 2: hits his hands, it doesn't move.

963
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I mean, he's he's got

964
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,479
Speaker 3: he's got mits and that ball just does not move

965
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 3: when it hits his hands. It's I'll tell you what Fellas.

966
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 3: I am. I know, very excited about the training, can't no.

967
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 4: People worried about the wide receiver room rightfully show and

968
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 4: I do think another will be added. But it's better

969
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,479
Speaker 4: today than it was three and sixty five days ago.

970
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it is.

971
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 4: Austin's a better player than.

972
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 2: Better today than it wasn't January or February, you know,

973
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: and it certainly is better than it was three hundred

974
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: for multitude reasons.

975
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 4: I would take Metcalf over pictures.

976
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I I'm completely with you on that, and

977
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: I think you hope you're hoping your deptht you know,

978
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 2: the Calvin Austin's, the Roman Wilson's are taking step forwards.

979
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 3: And giving you solid contributions as well too. It's been fun, dude,

980
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 3: it has been fun. Gentlemen.

981
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 2: I think that shit about doing right is the right

982
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: is the cloud coverage rolls in as well too.

983
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 3: Perfect out here is a practice will.

984
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 4: Roll along next weekday and I are going to be.

985
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: Rolling yes, and that's that's important to as well too.

986
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 2: You guys will go back to your normal time frame

987
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: motes and I. You guys will be doing three days

988
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: a week motes and I will be doing two days

989
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: a week.

990
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: So we are never resting. That's right, That's right, we are.

991
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: We are never going away here, you know, much like

992
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 2: the NFL, we're never going away.

993
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: We might go a little bit.

994
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: Quieter for for a few weeks, but we are never

995
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: going away, certainly. And we will have plenty more uh

996
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: for you between now and training camp. But you already know,

997
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: nobody covers training camp like we do on Steelers Nation Radio,

998
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: and that will be a lot.

999
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: Of fun come late July.

1000
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: But a big thank you to everybody who helped out

1001
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: with the last three weeks making this all possible. A

1002
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 2: lot of contributors, a lot of contributors justin producing for

1003
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: us back at the ranch, with the help of of

1004
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: our of our sense Brian La Martina as well, Tom

1005
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: down here on site, CJ down here on site as

1006
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 2: well too.

1007
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 3: And then for these two guys that are always fun

1008
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 3: to hang out with.

1009
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely Labs and Rob King deserve a shout out

1010
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: as well to Troy Faltanu Logan Lee with Jayleen m.

1011
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 3: Warren, Nick Herbig Yeah.

1012
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of fun guests throughout the

1013
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: time that we had, certainly Keanu Benton as well too.

1014
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: And wishing all those guys uh some some good some

1015
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: good time off here for the next six or seven

1016
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: weeks as they get ready for the end of Latrobe

1017
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: as well too. But thanks to Dale and Matt for

1018
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 2: letting me hang out. Always enjoy getting to do this

1019
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 2: stuff with you guys. Always fun getting to chop it

1020
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: up and have these conversations with you guys here on

1021
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 2: the drive and that will do it for our on

1022
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: location portion of this off season program. Everybody, take care

1023
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: and we will talk to you soon. As always, you

1024
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: know where to find us, It's on twenty four seven,

1025
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Speaker 2: home of the Black and Gold. It's Steelers Nation Radio

1026
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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network.