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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Doug Peterson Show, brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Fresh from Florida. JP Shadwick and former Jaguar Jeff Logoman

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Speaker 1: discuss the latest Jaguars news with the head Coach. The

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson Show starts right now.

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Speaker 2: And welcome into the Hondai Studios inside the Middle of

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Speaker 2: Electric Center for the Doug Peterson Show on the Jaguars

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Speaker 2: Radio Network, presented by the University of Florida. Brian Sexton

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Speaker 2: in with Jeff Logoman this weekend. The head coach joins us, Now, hey, coach,

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Speaker 2: how are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing well, doing well.

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Speaker 4: How about you guys. Merry Christmas do you guys? And

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Speaker 4: to you?

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Speaker 2: And I heard you say that your wife has your

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Speaker 2: birthday on Christmas Eve?

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Speaker 4: So did you the twenty fourth? Yes?

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Speaker 3: I did you win Christmas Eve? I won Christmas Eve

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Speaker 3: and I won Christmas Morning. So I'm two for two

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Speaker 3: this year.

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Speaker 4: Well, at least you get to shop kind of for

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Speaker 4: two things which you kind of knock it out. You

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Speaker 4: get anything good for Christmas?

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Speaker 3: Me personally, you know, I bought myself a Tika t

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Speaker 3: I Kka two forty three rifle by myself, a right

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Speaker 3: good for you and then my strength conditioning staff brought

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Speaker 3: me the two forty three the shells to go to

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Speaker 3: go with it, So I thought that was a pretty good,

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Speaker 3: pretty good win win.

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Speaker 4: You know. The round gifts are the ones you buy

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Speaker 4: for yourself. They are you can't screw them up. Get

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Speaker 4: exactly what you want.

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Speaker 3: And I will say, the coaching staff bought me an

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Speaker 3: e bike this year, then I'm gonna use on the farm.

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Speaker 4: Is that the playment is that allowable? It is? It's

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Speaker 4: kind of cheap. No it's not. I mean it's get

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Speaker 4: a golf cart, dug and then ride a bike.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, I know, but these are you can also ride.

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Speaker 4: The golf carts are better for for hunting on the

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Speaker 4: farm because you can I'm excited. You can carry stuff

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Speaker 4: in the back, that's true. Will you use the two

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Speaker 4: forty three for duck hunting? No, it'll be for white,

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Speaker 4: not the left. If you have shells so well, not.

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Speaker 3: Shotgun shells either, are just regular rifle shells, rifle cartridges.

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Speaker 4: Congratulations, I love gifts for myself. I do too.

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Speaker 3: They're the best.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's go back to last week a little

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Speaker 4: bit game in Vegas, which was first of all great

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Speaker 4: experience because it's a new stadium, have never been there before,

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Speaker 4: and highly impressed with the environment in the setup that

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Speaker 4: they have. But a disappointing loss, nonetheless, And I think

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Speaker 4: one of the themes that's kind of stayed throughout your

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Speaker 4: football team, especially recently, is you guys weren't able to

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Speaker 4: generate any momentum with the takeaway category as a defense.

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Speaker 3: That's that's been hard. That's been hard. Offensively, we're kind

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Speaker 3: of giving it away. You know, we had a couple

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Speaker 3: of giveaways last week, and then defensively, we're not getting

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Speaker 3: And the offense is having to go the long way,

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Speaker 3: having to stay on the field a little bit too

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Speaker 3: long in these football games. Disappointing loss. We had opportunities

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Speaker 3: in that game. You know, you go at fourteen thirteen

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Speaker 3: out of our grasp and then he makes a tremendous play, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, credit them for making that play, and you know,

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Speaker 3: but those are those are the things, those are the

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Speaker 3: plays right there that that we need to make in

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Speaker 3: order to mature and move forward as a team. Those

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Speaker 3: And then and then offensively, you know, our ability to

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Speaker 3: we haven't had the success that we would have you know,

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Speaker 3: liked last week in that game.

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Speaker 4: And to kind of go to that offense giving that

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Speaker 4: the game that didn't lead to any points by the Raiders,

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Speaker 4: but it essentially took points off the board for you guys.

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Speaker 4: And definitely the last one with the strange fumble in

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Speaker 4: So that's not where you want to be either, not

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Speaker 3: And and but seeing those are the those are the

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Speaker 3: those are the learning lessons that even though we're learning

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Speaker 3: this the hard way as a football team, that everything

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Speaker 3: everything matters, right, every everything we do matters. The way

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Speaker 3: be aware when we're in those situations. Coaches and players,

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Speaker 4: Where we got to understand.

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Speaker 3: That it's a closed ball game and points. And I

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Speaker 3: knew going into that football game that the field goals

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Speaker 3: be big because I think it would give us an

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Speaker 3: the football drive, kick field goals at the end of

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Speaker 3: I felt like we could, we could win the game

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Speaker 3: twenty to fourteen, twenty to seventeen, twenty to ten, maybe

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Speaker 3: something like that last week. But when when when we

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Speaker 3: back and then and we're not creating those takeaways on defense.

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Speaker 3: It just makes it so much harder. And as a team,

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Speaker 3: we need to understand that, you know, making those plays

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Speaker 3: when our fair share of these games.

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Speaker 2: Something that people have been talking about this week is

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Speaker 2: Mason Smith who showed up. We've been asking about him

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Speaker 2: all year. What did you see from him? And what

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Speaker 2: does he mean for your outside pass rushers when you've

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Speaker 2: got some push up the middle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's playing, he's playing well. He's playing really really good.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's he's learned from early in the season.

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Speaker 3: He's getting more reps obviously, so he's learning how to

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Speaker 3: play that position inside. He's he's pushing the pocket. He

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Speaker 3: had probably again a good football game. I'd love to

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Speaker 3: have him make that play on the quarterback on aiden there,

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Speaker 3: you know, and then we're off the field and all

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Speaker 3: of that. But if he can continue to push the

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Speaker 4: One other guy I thought that played well, Dewey Winger

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Speaker 4: I thought played well, and Savage ended up leaving the game.

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Speaker 4: Was in the concussion protocol, How do you handle that

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Speaker 4: this week with a guy that played well and a

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Speaker 4: which typically kind of is your date to determine what

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Speaker 3: You know, My feel right now is that my gut

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Speaker 3: because of this. He's still symptomatic and still in that protocol,

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Speaker 3: and and don't want to rush that thing whatsoever. I

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Speaker 3: want to make sure you know that that time takes

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Speaker 3: its you know, takes its uh or runs its course

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Speaker 3: So if that's the case.

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Speaker 4: That's all right. Dewey.

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Speaker 3: Dewey's very capable, right. My only I was sharing this

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Speaker 3: you know, we went into the season thinking sav was

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Speaker 3: going to be the nickel, Dewey could potentially be a safety.

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Speaker 3: Jarian was gonna work in at nickel maybe some nickel corner,

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Speaker 3: you know, But now now things got the debt got shuffled, right,

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Speaker 3: and and so now do he's in a position to

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Speaker 3: had a great game last week. So I would anticipate,

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Speaker 3: you know, Doey playing playing a lot in this football game.

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Speaker 2: So you get the Titans now, second time of the month.

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Speaker 2: Is that an advantage for you, Well, it'd.

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Speaker 3: Be an advantage for them too, you know, But the

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Speaker 3: fact that it's still fresh on our minds. It's only

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Speaker 3: four weeks ago that we played them. It was a

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Speaker 3: close football game. It was a physical football game. And again,

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Speaker 3: played well that day, and and we're gonna need that

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Speaker 3: same type of performance, you know. Mason Rudolph Now I

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Speaker 3: mean different quarterback, you know, but they're still running it

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Speaker 3: And Jeffrey Simmons anchors that he's trying to He's a

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Speaker 3: tremendous player, and Arden's playing well and Sweats playing well.

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Speaker 3: So familiar to us, familiar to them, should be a

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Speaker 4: The defensive line good in Tennessee. But they weren't so

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Speaker 4: good last week. You know, they gave up three hundred

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Speaker 4: and thirty five yards rushing to the Colts. What did

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Speaker 4: you see in that game that maybe can give you

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Speaker 4: a little bit of an advantage this week.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if you listen to what their coach

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Speaker 3: said this week, I mean, you know, we were out

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Speaker 3: like that. Well, those are things that are going to

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Speaker 3: make sure that we're double teaming. You know, if we

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Speaker 3: It's much like the New York Jets sort of game

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Speaker 3: plan in a way, with the type of front that

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Speaker 3: be we have to be physical upfront. It goes without saying.

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Speaker 3: And then and then our backs have got to hit

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Speaker 3: that hole. We've got to have tight ends and receivers,

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Speaker 3: blocking linebackers and safeties and and and that's what you

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Speaker 3: saw against uh, you know Indianapolis and Tennessee. And of

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Speaker 3: course you know Jonathan Day. He's a good running back.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty it's pretty ad running back. But when he

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Speaker 3: gets some he you know, gets the ball in space,

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Speaker 3: he can go. So I don't expect that same defense.

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Speaker 3: I expect a better performance obviously from them, and I'm

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Speaker 4: Last time you faced Tennessee, Anton Harrison had his sickness

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Speaker 4: and didn't play in that game, so Cole Van Landon

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Speaker 3: And we've drafted some guys in Philly when I was there,

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Speaker 2: You can still finish four and two in the division.

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Speaker 3: Back now, you're one hundred percent right. It's important one

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Speaker 2: Best of luck to get to three and two to

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Speaker 2: to we'll see it after New Year's So.

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Speaker 4: Happy New Year's that's right, Happy New Years. That's right,

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Speaker 4: Head coach Doug Peterson. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, and we'll be back after this on the

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.

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Speaker 4: And welcome back to Doug Peterson Show.

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Speaker 2: Brian Sexton along with Jeff Loghiman here on a Thursday

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Speaker 2: after Christmas. H you asked Doug about his Christmas? How

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Speaker 4: the beneficiaries of most of the gifts your logs. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we're willing to throw it out there. But really, most

439
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Speaker 4: importantly the food, the wine was always always good. You know,

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Speaker 4: you know me and Brian, we I do know you

441
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Speaker 4: which want asking. I was hoping for some more detail,

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Speaker 4: but it appears it was. It was great. We uh,

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Speaker 4: we had an outstanding Christmas kind of brunch. Yeah, was

444
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Speaker 4: some of our neighbors, Rip and Roseanne. It was outstanding.

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Speaker 4: Glad to hear it. Tara was like a demon in

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Speaker 4: the kitchen as she always is. Congratulations, Yeah, it was great.

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Speaker 4: All right, So let's get back to football.

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Speaker 2: We touched on Cole van Landon Cole started the game

449
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Speaker 2: three weeks ago against the Titans did right tackle. Now

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Speaker 2: he comes in at left tackle.

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Speaker 4: On short notice. By the way, Yeah that the one

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Speaker 4: in Tennessee. Correct. He found out maybe Saturday night, Yeah,

453
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Speaker 4: a couple now, I don't I don't think it was

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Speaker 4: out in Saturda Sunday morning he found out.

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Speaker 2: Did you know he was capable of this? I mean

456
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Speaker 2: we heard about him and being the highest graded player

457
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Speaker 2: in PFF for whatever that means, in the preseason right

458
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Speaker 2: and now here he is starting right tackle, left tackle

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Speaker 2: and playing pretty well.

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Speaker 4: I give him credit. You know, when they initially traded

461
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Speaker 4: for him, I think their vision for him was going

462
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Speaker 4: to be a guard, and it didn't work out very well.

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Speaker 4: You know, to play guard, you have to have a

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Speaker 4: level of power to handle because you know, look, it's

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Speaker 4: kind of like battling things in a phone booth. You know,

466
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Speaker 4: it's short areas, you're dealing with stronger guys. And he

467
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Speaker 4: didn't handle that very well. And he literally became an

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Speaker 4: afterthought for this football team. When I say an afterthought,

469
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Speaker 4: he became a number. You know, let let's get through

470
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Speaker 4: camp and we just you know, moved him to tackle.

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Speaker 4: Right or whatever it was, and all of a sudden

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Speaker 4: he excelled. Well that was the position that he played

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Speaker 4: in college, I guess, which he was a left tackle.

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Speaker 4: And he's very athletic. He's not super strong, He's not

475
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Speaker 4: moving guys off the ball in the run game a lot.

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Speaker 4: But if you can have a backup tackle in this

477
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Speaker 4: league that you know is going to make sure that

478
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Speaker 4: your quarterback doesn't get one of these look out, you're okay.

479
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Speaker 4: And that's what he is. He's an excellent pass protector

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Speaker 4: for a backup. And the crazy thing is is, you know,

481
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Speaker 4: he was essentially a third team guy, you know, at

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Speaker 4: the beginning of season, and then with the trade of

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Speaker 4: Cam Robinson to the Minnesota Vikings and then the ascension

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Speaker 4: of Walker Little to the starting position, now he's in

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Speaker 4: a position to be that guy and he's done a

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Speaker 4: great job.

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Speaker 2: So with Walker done for the year, he's now your

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Speaker 2: third tackle.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yes, I'm sorry, no, no closer, start koser, Star,

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Speaker 4: who's your third tackle? Well, that's probably going to fall

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Speaker 4: on the rookie which hasn't been hasn't been active much,

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Speaker 4: you know, And to be honest, watching him in the preseason,

493
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Speaker 4: I thought he wasn't ready, and this would be kind

494
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Speaker 4: of a red shirt year because you know, he's a

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Speaker 4: fourth round pick. You're not going to take a fourth

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Speaker 4: round pick tackle unless he looks I mean, just terrible

497
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Speaker 4: and cast him off. But you know, this year essentially

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Speaker 4: because you can't hide him on the practice squad, you

499
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Speaker 4: got to keep him on the active roster for a

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Speaker 4: fourth round pick. But I don't know if he's ready

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Speaker 4: for this, But we're going to find out if he

502
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Speaker 4: has to be pressed into action, they really don't have.

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Speaker 4: And here's the other thing. Will he be the first

504
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Speaker 4: option or would he be kind of an emergency break

505
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Speaker 4: last type of player, because you know, here's the other

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Speaker 4: part is that Blake Hansk can play tackle too. He

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Speaker 4: did in Cleveland last year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know, is there anything you can't

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Speaker 2: do with Cole van landon it left tackle? Does it

510
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Speaker 2: severely restrict you in any way what you'd like to do?

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Speaker 3: Well?

512
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Speaker 4: Was a great thing about Walker Little, And this was

513
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Speaker 4: the part that I really was impressed with when watching

514
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Speaker 4: Walker Little is his finish in the run game. His

515
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Speaker 4: ability to move people was really good. It's kind of

516
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Speaker 4: like what Cam was early on the last couple of years,

517
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Speaker 4: got kind of falling off the finished part of that.

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Speaker 4: But Walker little has done been doing a great job

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Speaker 4: of the finishing things. Hopefully he's okay. The biggest concern

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Speaker 4: with Walker is is you know, okay, the durability thing.

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Speaker 4: You know, this is miss game again, you know so.

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Speaker 4: But for col Van Landon, look, he's not gonna get

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Speaker 4: a ton of movement in the run game. But the

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Speaker 4: most important thing is to not get somebody killed. He's

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Speaker 4: got Arden Key this week, and we know Arden and

526
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Speaker 4: then he's okay. I mean, he's the guy that you

527
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Speaker 4: worry about the most is Harold Landry. Harold Lander's a

528
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Speaker 4: good football player, very good pass rusher, and they both

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Speaker 4: kind of move around a little bit. So Harold Landry,

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Speaker 4: I think, is the one you'd be most concerned about.

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Speaker 4: And then if they move Jeffrey Simmons outside, which you know,

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Speaker 4: remember Chris Jones kind of kicking outside. Jeffrey Simmons can

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Speaker 4: do that.

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Speaker 2: I love Jeffery Simmons. I think he's a terrific football.

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Speaker 4: He's really good football player, really good football player.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we're due for a break. We will take

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Speaker 2: it now and return of the Doug Peterson Show. Here

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Speaker 2: on the Thursday night after Christmas, and you're listening on

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Speaker 2: Jaguars Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.

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Speaker 2: Man, it's continuing for you on the Jaguars Radio Network,

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Speaker 2: which is presented by the University of Florida, the number

543
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Speaker 2: one university in US News and World Reports, number one

544
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Speaker 2: state for education. Brian Sexton along with Jeff Logoman, let's

545
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Speaker 2: talk a little BTJ. I mean, listen, we could just

546
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Speaker 2: turn on the mics and talk about him for the

547
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Speaker 2: entire hour and nobody would get tired of listening.

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Speaker 4: Again, No, I didn't. I what I love is I

549
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Speaker 4: love watching him on film just because he is. Like

550
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Speaker 4: talking with Doug. It's not very often that you see

551
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Speaker 4: a young player that has developed so extensively across the

552
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Speaker 4: board as a route runner and speed is exceptional. I mean,

553
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Speaker 4: that's you know, that's God given. Yeah, you can't work

554
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Speaker 4: on speed, but the route running stuff. The truly great

555
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Speaker 4: players have have good speed, but have the ability to

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Speaker 4: change speeds to make it appear as great speed. He

557
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Speaker 4: has great speed, period, but he's learning how to do

558
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Speaker 4: the little things to make his great speed. Even greater

559
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Speaker 4: rookies generally hit the rookie wall right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the college season ends and then they start training,

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Speaker 2: and then they're drafted, and then they go right into

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Speaker 2: training camp, and it just it seems to all run together.

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Speaker 2: So you don't expect a rookie to be playing better

564
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Speaker 2: at the end of the year, and yet he seems

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Speaker 2: to be getting stronger.

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Speaker 4: Week to week.

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Speaker 2: And Chad Hall I talked to him after practice today,

568
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Speaker 2: the Jaguars receivers coach, told me the exact same thing.

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Speaker 4: He just keeps getting stronger. He's like Superman. Yeah, it's

570
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Speaker 4: impressive because I remember my rookie year and once you

571
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Speaker 4: got into you know, week twelve, I was I was gassed.

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Speaker 4: And Brian has really thrived. And when you watch the

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Speaker 4: energy in which he runs his rout el, I mean,

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Speaker 4: he's just does a great job with it, and he

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Speaker 4: wants the ball. He wants the ball, and I think that,

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Speaker 4: you know, part of the energy that he has also

577
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Speaker 4: is related to he's the man now and now he's

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Speaker 4: experiencing something that I don't think he's even experienced at LSU,

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Speaker 4: because look at LSU, you were one of the guys,

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Speaker 4: I mean, one of the three great receivers on the

581
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Speaker 4: elite neighbor's got a lot of attention. He was considered

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Speaker 4: the man, the guy. Well, Brian is now the man,

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Speaker 4: and I think he's enjoying. I think he's relishing the

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Speaker 4: opportunity to be the man and then to be a

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Speaker 4: difference maker. You know, he was an ultimate competitor. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's an ultimate competitor. Well, I told you what Jimmy

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Speaker 4: Smith told me. We were standing on the field for

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Speaker 4: the Colts game. There at halftime, we're about to do

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Speaker 4: the induction ceremony for Tommy, the pride of the Jaguars,

590
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Speaker 4: and Jimmy said, and a paraphrasing, he might be as

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Speaker 4: good as me. Which listen for Jimmy Smith to say that.

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Speaker 2: He says a lot because Jimmy was ultimately, i mean,

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Speaker 2: just completely confident in his greatness.

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Speaker 4: Well, and Jimmy's not one roll around any kind of

595
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Speaker 4: credit that is equal to his. Yeah, it is, Jimmy.

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Speaker 4: Jimmy was great and rightfully so. And I'll give you

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Speaker 4: there's another kind of funny story. Or we have our

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Speaker 4: broadcast meetings every week. Yeah, and I said that Brian

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Speaker 4: Thomas Junior, I think is the best deep ball receiver

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Speaker 4: that the Jaguars have had since Jimmy Smith. I said

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Speaker 4: that at the very beginning of season, before Brian really

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Speaker 4: even played it, right, and I got kind of laughed

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Speaker 4: at imagine Biselli had something to say about that, and

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Speaker 4: that was where a lot of the laughter came from

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Speaker 4: and criticism of the comment.

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Speaker 2: But what's interesting is is that he's doing it without

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Speaker 2: anyone else helping him space the field, right. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you think about modern passing offenses, they're trying to

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Speaker 2: space the field kind of like a basketball corn, right.

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Speaker 2: And when you had Christian Kirk for just a brief

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Speaker 2: moment and Gabe Davis early in the year, you know,

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Speaker 2: you could think about creating some places and Evan Ingram

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Speaker 2: for him to be able to go. I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: no spacing on the floor. Everyone knows the ball's going

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Speaker 2: to him.

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Speaker 4: Well, and I'm surprised that defenses are playing him the

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Speaker 4: way they are. I mean, you know he's going to

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Speaker 4: get the ball. The Raiders screwed a big time, and

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Speaker 4: the way that some teams are playing him, you're just

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Speaker 4: you look at it and you scratch your head and

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Speaker 4: you going, what are you thinking? You know they're going

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Speaker 4: to get the ball to seven. It's great for the Jaguars.

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Speaker 4: I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing that

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Speaker 4: part of it. It's great to watch. But it's still

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Speaker 4: kind of amazing to me that some coordinators are approaching

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Speaker 4: the Jaguars and not treating Brian Thomas Junior like a

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Speaker 4: surefired star, which is what he is.

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Speaker 2: He is, and he will see completely different defenses next year,

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Speaker 2: will he not? Oh?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, The book on him just continues to grow. And

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Speaker 4: could we see for the very first time a defense

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Speaker 4: that gives him the attention that he deserves this week?

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Speaker 4: You know, at times people have given the attention but

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Speaker 4: not play in and play out. This may be the game.

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Speaker 2: We will take a break in return more with Jeff

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Speaker 2: Logiman in here on the Doug Peterson Show on the

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Speaker 2: Jaguars Radio Network.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now now.

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Speaker 2: Edward, back, Brian and Jeff with you from the Hundai

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Speaker 2: I am two in the weekly release just The amount

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Speaker 2: of ink that Brian Thomas Junior has been able to

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Speaker 2: amass is as impressive as anything a lot of anecdote stories.

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Speaker 2: I see right here that he needs forty four yards

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Speaker 2: to move into the top ten among rookie receivers in

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Speaker 2: NFL history in receiving yards.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, which is pretty cool. You know, he's got all

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Speaker 4: the Jaguars records now you know, receptions, yards, touchdowns, and

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Speaker 4: what's next from a franchise standpoint for him, I think

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Speaker 4: it's a big deal to get to double digit touchdown,

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Speaker 4: So the next touchdown at ten is a big deal. Yeah,

654
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 4: he leads all the NFL rookies and receiving yards. If

655
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Speaker 4: as long as this pace continues, I think he'll end

656
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Speaker 4: the season leading the league rookies in receiving yards. But

657
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 4: the list that you're referring to is pretty cool, and

658
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 4: the list of the names that are on that list

659
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 4: are fun to kind of look at. Billy Brooks, a

660
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 4: good friend of mine for the Colts right back in

661
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty six, is the tenth receiver on that list,

662
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 4: and him yardage total total is eleven thirty one, so

663
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 4: forty four yards to pass Billy for Brian to move

664
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Speaker 4: into tenth place on the all time rookie receiving yards list.

665
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Speaker 4: How far could he go?

666
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Speaker 2: Well, he twittered and twenty six yards to pass Randy Moss,

667
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: which again which is amazing. Say the name Randy Moss,

668
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Speaker 2: and we both remember that rookie season of his in

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight.

670
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Speaker 4: So I want to just roll some names off here.

671
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Speaker 4: So Billy Brooks is at tenth, Terry Glenn of the

672
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Speaker 4: Patriots is nine. Terrific receiver. I'm not going to throw

673
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Speaker 4: the yardage out there. Michael Thomas of the Saints is

674
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Speaker 4: at number eight. Michael Clayton of the what team was

675
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 4: he trying to think? Not sure fucks. I'm thinking of

676
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 4: Clayton beck in the Clayton Couper days, and that's not

677
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 4: as Mark Clayton, get correct. Anyway, He's seventh. Odell Beckham

678
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Speaker 4: is at six, Randy Moss is at five. That was

679
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety eight, which is going back to, you know,

680
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 4: the early years when passing wasn't as much, and Kwon

681
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 4: Bolden at number four, JJ Justin Jefferson at three, Jamar

682
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 4: Chase at two, Puka Nakua at number one.

683
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Speaker 2: And by the way, he was insational as a rookie,

684
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Speaker 2: and that's an amazing amount of fourteen or eighty six.

685
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: Michael Clayton played for Buccaneers. He was the LSU kid

686
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Speaker 2: in two thousand and four.

687
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, that's right, and amazing how many LSU

688
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 4: guys are on this list, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Michael Clayton.

689
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: Odell Beckham junior, Obi Jay and Brian Thomas junior. Yeah,

690
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: wide receiver you by the way right now by an

691
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: old friend, Cortez Hankton. He's a wide receivers, a wide

692
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Speaker 2: receivers coach. I saw him at the draft and he

693
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: told me good player. Walking through the airport in Detroit

694
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Speaker 2: as I was racing to get a plane to come

695
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: home on Friday, he said, this kid might be the

696
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: best of all of my receiver No, I says a lot.

697
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Speaker 4: I made that statement after watching the film on him

698
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 4: prior to the draft, because he had the explosive element

699
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Speaker 4: he does, which that's what the NFL is all about,

700
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Speaker 4: the speed.

701
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Speaker 2: And when we come back, we'll talk more about the NFL,

702
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Speaker 2: the Jaguars and the Titans on Sunday at one o'clock

703
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Speaker 2: kickoff in the home finale. Here at EverBank Stadium. I'm

704
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: back with Jeff Logman on The Doug Peterson Show after

705
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Speaker 2: this on Jaguars Radio.

706
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.

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Speaker 2: All right, the Jaguars and Titans on Sunday here at

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Speaker 2: EverBank Stadium. The two teams are a combined one and

709
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: seven in the month of December, and that one win

710
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: is the Jaguars win over the Titans almost a month ago.

711
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: Two teams, neither of whom is playing good football. You

712
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: study tape like no one else. Is one team playing

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Speaker 2: any better than the other?

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Speaker 4: Well, Tennessee's playing better right now?

715
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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean they scored twenty seven points for each

716
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Speaker 2: of the last two games.

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Speaker 4: Well, fifty seven points, because they scored thirty last week, right,

718
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 4: and then twenty seven weeks with fifty seven points in

719
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Speaker 4: the last two games. And that's Rudolph check Wars are

720
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 4: struggling to find points. Well, it's combination of Levis and Rudolph.

721
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Speaker 4: But Levis got benched in that game two weeks ago.

722
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean that's Look, they're putting up more points.

723
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Speaker 4: You know, I would say them, yeah, they're playing better,

724
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 4: But that franchise just gave up a big number on

725
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 4: the ground, huge and that's hard to ignore when you

726
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 4: give up that many yards rushing. The only team that

727
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 4: I can remember bouncing back from that was in Ianapolis

728
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 4: when when Mojo and Fred had that tremendous It was

729
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 4: two thousand and six. Seventy five was Super Bowl run

730
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 4: that year.

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Speaker 2: Tell I tell the story. I never go to visiting

732
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: coach's postgame. I just have enough to do cover the Jags.

733
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Speaker 2: But I ran for the broadcast booth down to Tony

734
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: Dunge because I wanted to hear what Tony Dungey, who

735
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Speaker 2: I revere I think is a tremendous man and coach.

736
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Speaker 2: I want to hear what he had to say. Yeah,

737
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 2: I thought he was just good. His call go collected

738
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: like Tony's. He's like, look, there's it's a couple of

739
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: little things. We'll fix it. And they did, and they

740
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Speaker 2: did it again, and they won the Super.

741
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Speaker 4: Bowl, and they became really good against the run, really

742
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 4: really good against Bob Sanders was a big part of

743
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 4: that number, right, and Slim.

744
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: Farland played well late in the year there, so they

745
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: solidified things. Here's the interesting part about the number that

746
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: you just gave out. Doug Peterson has talked about this

747
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 2: Tennessee defensive line as being one of the better groups

748
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Speaker 2: in football, and they did that.

749
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Speaker 4: So why the fluke? Uh, it can happen. Okay, it

750
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 4: can happen. You get a couple guys out of a

751
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 4: gap here or there, long runs and you know that's

752
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 4: all it takes. And Tennessee's a little aggressive. They like

753
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 4: to send one extra guy and so if you're sending

754
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 4: one extra guy you can hit it, then you're you're

755
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 4: kind of depleting that second line of defense a little bit.

756
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Speaker 2: Do you think it's one of the best defensive lines

757
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: in football?

758
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 4: No? Okay, I think those two tackles are two of

759
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Speaker 4: the best. Simmonson Sweat, yes, but as a whole, right Harold,

760
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 4: Landeryard and Key doesn't come together for you. Yeah, I mean, look,

761
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: it's it might be the best defensive line in the division.

762
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Speaker 4: You could make that argument. Indy's not even in the

763
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 4: conversation with that. Jaguars aren't either. I mean, you've got

764
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Speaker 4: two edge players that are really good, right, but nobody

765
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Speaker 4: on the inside. Well, that's always been impressive and Houston's

766
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 4: got the edge players.

767
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Speaker 2: Give it to them.

768
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say, yeah, Houston's edge players are really good. Though,

769
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Speaker 4: where do you think Jeffrey Simmons fits in the pantheon

770
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 4: of tackles great defensive tackles in the league right now?

771
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 4: He's top three? Okay, you're parking there on a bad team.

772
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 4: Chris Jones and Quinn Williams from the Jets. M Yeah,

773
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Speaker 4: probably those two guys, Yeah, probably those two guys are

774
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Speaker 4: the top. Okay, Chris Jones is the best. I think

775
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 4: Quentin Williams is having an off year though, Yeah, yeah,

776
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 4: he's He's not great, okay, but he's a big guy

777
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 4: who moves to people generally, and I know he's hurt.

778
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 4: But uh, what's is? Uh the guy with the Giants, Lawrence?

779
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 4: I believe it is. Yeah, the great player, actually, Lawrence,

780
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 4: great player. God, he's good, really good? All right. But

781
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Speaker 4: what I'm worried about this week is that Mac Jones

782
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 4: has had some problems in the last couple of weeks

783
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 4: keeping his eyes down the field, worried about the rush

784
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 4: if you don't have a running game to support him.

785
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, it's second and nine,

786
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 4: third and seven plus, and all of a sudden, here

787
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 4: comes Tennessee sending that extra guy, and he's flat at Mac.

788
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 4: You know, Max's eyes have been dropping, and then when

789
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 4: his eyes drop, his feet get a little bit off,

790
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden he doesn't have his

791
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 4: feet underneath of him. Mac Jones is not as accurate

792
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 4: as he can be. That's what I worry about.

793
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Speaker 2: The Jaguars ran twenty six times for seventy one yards,

794
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: that's two point seven per in their win in Nashville.

795
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Speaker 2: Can they run better than that this week? First of all,

796
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: give credit to the defense for that win. I mean

797
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 2: the job that they did against the Titans, and and

798
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: also Will Levis was outstanding. The Jaguars offense was not

799
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: great in that bulk, So.

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Speaker 4: That's a definite.

801
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, maybe we'll take a break in return more

802
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Speaker 2: with Jeff here on the Doug Peterson Show.

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Speaker 4: After this quick pause in the Jaguars Radio.

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Speaker 1: Network, welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues.

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Speaker 4: Right now, Briana, Jeffwards.

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Speaker 2: You have the Doug Peterson Show from the Hyundai Studios

807
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Speaker 2: inside the Miller Electric Center. I hope your Christmas was great.

808
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 2: We hope the Jaguars find a way to get their

809
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: second win of the season at EverBank Stadium. It's you know,

810
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 2: there have been so many games that it felt like

811
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 2: they were in it, Jeff, I mean the Packers game,

812
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 2: the Vikings game, the Jets game, but they didn't close

813
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: the deal.

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Speaker 4: I was actually just you know, John Osher has the

815
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 4: kind of you and I and Frank and Tony and

816
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 4: everybody writes kind of what our thoughts are for the game.

817
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 4: It's published on Saturday on Jaguars dot Com Final Analysis,

818
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 4: and I was actually just writing in there that I

819
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Speaker 4: hope that the fans can come to the stadium and

820
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 4: have a little holiday cheer one more time. This is

821
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Speaker 4: the last time, and it hasn't been a great season

822
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Speaker 4: at home, and just to give them something to entertain

823
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 4: them and give them something to cheer about.

824
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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, they all want to come and

825
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: to watch Brian Thomas junior.

826
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Speaker 4: How many people are going to be rooting for the

827
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 4: loss though, in draft position and all of that.

828
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Speaker 2: You know, listen, I in twenty twenty, I was rooting

829
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: for them to lose every week, right because it was

830
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 2: clear they weren't agree and Trevor Lawrence was sitting out

831
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: there and as it as it played out, that was

832
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 2: the right thing to happen.

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Speaker 4: Circumstances are different.

834
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they are different. Listen, you win one, you lose one.

835
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Speaker 2: Here at the end, you're going to be picking to

836
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 2: the top six or seven and that's going to get

837
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 2: you a good football player. Yes, it might not get

838
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: the exact player you want, but then again, there's no

839
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: guarantee the Daguars are going to take the exact player

840
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: that you want, even if they're sitting there at number one.

841
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: I just it's the Titans. You can't root against them

842
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: when they're playing the Titans.

843
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 4: I just don't think that. You can't. No, no, you can't.

844
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 4: It's the Titans are different ever since nineteen ninety nine

845
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 4: and Jeff Fisher when he made those comments, that just solidified.

846
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 4: Oh you mean at the Super Bowl about yeah, about

847
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 4: the whole stadium. Yeah, if you weren't here.

848
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: When Jeff Fisher was the head coach of the Titans,

849
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: they beat the Jaguars in the AFC Championship Game to

850
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: advance to the Super Bowl. He was asked at the

851
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: Super Bowl press conference, how'd you manage it?

852
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 4: Right?

853
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: Going from all the home stadiums that you played in.

854
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 2: You had the Astrodome, Britty Bowl in ninety seven when

855
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: they played in Memphis in ninety eight, their first year

856
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: in Nashville, they played at Vanderbilt Stadium and then they

857
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 2: moved into what is now Nissan Stadium, and he he's like,

858
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: there's four, you know, home stadiums you had. He goes,

859
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 2: what you forgot one, just with the wry little smile

860
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: on his face. And the reporter said which one? He said, well,

861
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: it was at that tim Alltel Stadium in Jacksonville, and

862
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: everybody broke up laughing.

863
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 4: It's a great line, a great line.

864
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Speaker 2: And he was at the j Fund Tom Coughlin's gala

865
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Speaker 2: years later and just everybody wanted to needle him about it.

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Speaker 2: He left with about four hundred best friends.

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Speaker 4: They loved it. Oh yea, because he just he's a

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Speaker 4: great guy. He is a great guy. He's a great guy.

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Speaker 4: Talked to him on a couple of different occasions. A

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Speaker 4: great guy. He stuck it to the Jaguars well, and

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Speaker 4: you know, because people, and you know, I almost wish

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Speaker 4: that for the current players to understand kind of how

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Speaker 4: this whole rivalry, how deep it runs, is to go

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Speaker 4: back and show some of that to the current players

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Speaker 4: of today.

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Speaker 2: Hold that thought. We've got to take a break when

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Speaker 2: we come back more about Sunday's game. Brian Sexton, Jeffuan

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Speaker 2: with you here on the Doug Peterson Show. We'll wrap

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Speaker 2: things up after this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.

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Speaker 2: Final moments of the Doug Peterson Show here on the

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Speaker 2: Jaguars Radio Network. I'm Brian Sexton filling in this evening

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Speaker 2: along with Jeff Logman, and we've been getting you ready

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Speaker 2: for Sunday's season finale against the Tennessee Titans. It comes

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Speaker 2: your way at one o'clock, and of course we'll have

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Speaker 2: all the action locally in Jacksonville. We'll get started at

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Speaker 2: ten o'clock. We'll pick up the network at noon and

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Speaker 2: then kick off against Tennessee. The secondary has been a

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Speaker 2: what I choose your adjective problem, A disappointment, a bugaboo.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you figure it out. The safety spot in particular,

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Speaker 2: they get Dewey Wingered back this week. Does it make

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Speaker 2: a big difference?

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Speaker 4: I think it helps because I think it helps kind

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Speaker 4: of calm calm the back end down a little bit.

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Speaker 4: The one thing about Andrew Wingard is that he's a

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Speaker 4: good football player, and he's a smart football player. And

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Speaker 4: I think he's a really good communicator back there, and

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Speaker 4: I think they've missed his presence this year with the

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Speaker 4: injury that he had obviously set him back a little

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Speaker 4: bit with his ability to be available for this football team.

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Speaker 4: Dewey says, he's ready to go. He looked like he

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Speaker 4: was ready to go this past game, wasn't given the opportunity.

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Speaker 4: And with the issue with Savage being in the protocol,

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Speaker 4: I think it's time for for winger.

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Speaker 2: You know, when you look at the safety position going forward,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's clear Andre Cisco is not

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Speaker 2: going to be back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think so. I mean I think that

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Speaker 4: that's uh, he's going to be able to get to

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Speaker 4: the market, and you know, good luck with him. And

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Speaker 4: I like and he's made a lot of mistakes this

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Speaker 4: year and he's had a kind of a tough year.

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Speaker 4: And but you got to figure out something in the

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Speaker 4: back end, you know, because the whole reason, like you

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Speaker 4: brought Darnell Savage here was to play nickel, and then

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Speaker 4: you couldn't play him at nickel because your issues at safety,

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Speaker 4: right you move him to safety and he doesn't I

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Speaker 4: don't think he has enough top end speed to play safe.

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Speaker 4: So what do you have to work with a safety?

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Speaker 4: I mean, do you think dow he's a guy here?

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Speaker 4: I think he's a starter. I think he is. And

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Speaker 4: then you hope that you can continue to develop Antonio

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Speaker 4: Johnson and he can get better. Is he a safety?

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Speaker 4: Is great? You know, Look, you've you've got to be

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Speaker 4: able to uh, your mind has to be sharp to

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Speaker 4: play safety. I think last year Antonio was able to

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Speaker 4: excel a little bit because he was in a kind

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Speaker 4: of that in his own little island, playing nickel for

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Speaker 4: the most part, and then a little other things that

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Speaker 4: they gave him to do. But they get they put

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Speaker 4: a he had a small plate. Well now when you

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Speaker 4: play safety, now you have adjustments and a new defense

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Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, now there's a challenge to it.

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Speaker 4: And I think the coaches can help out too. This

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Speaker 4: is supposed to be I think Ryan Nielsen's had a

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Speaker 4: great year. Obviously, this defense has gone backwards.

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Speaker 2: It was supposed to be a simple defense. Something that

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Speaker 2: went made it faster. That We've got a lot of

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Speaker 2: time to talk about this. We're at times and you've

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Speaker 2: got a television show to do. All Access with All

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Speaker 2: Access shown.

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Speaker 4: MAC Jones strings, come join us, all right and it's

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Speaker 4: on live at what time? Uh seven o'clock?

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Speaker 2: All right, Jeff, pleasure as always always, And that'll do

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Speaker 2: it for our show. Have a wonderful rest of your evening.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you on Sunday. From Everbangs Stadium is

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars try to get a home win in their

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Speaker 2: home final. Gay night, everybody,