Speaker 1: Money ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank Valentine. Oh
Speaker 1: and this is the R and B Money Podcast, the
Speaker 1: authority on all things what R and B. Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2: The last part that you forgot out, the money part,
Speaker 2: the independent money part.
Speaker 1: Listen, man, I don't know where you're from. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, shout down. I don't know where
Speaker 1: you're from. I would have been through that. We've been
Speaker 1: through them street and I'm not I'm gonna say it,
Speaker 1: Shoutown's finest, y'all makes noise for taking the film. I'm listen.
Speaker 1: I'll be listening to your music and I'll be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's that's something I would have said, just in reverse.
Speaker 1: It's aggressive. It is aggressive aggress And so I was
Speaker 1: just going down the projects and I was trying to
Speaker 1: count how many times you said the word pussy. I
Speaker 1: was trying to count because you when I say you're
Speaker 1: you'll break it out this pussy to put the pussy.
Speaker 1: And I was like this.
Speaker 3: So early we just started.
Speaker 1: We told you we're different around here. This ain't no
Speaker 1: regular you know, I mean, you you say it the
Speaker 1: way it is, and and for me, like I'm a
Speaker 1: very visual, you know what I mean. I'm a very
Speaker 1: visual person. Like as soon as you start to sing
Speaker 1: or talk, I go straight into my imagination. And if
Speaker 1: you can visualize line by line, that's when you're a writer,
Speaker 1: thank you. That's when you are a real songwriter. That's
Speaker 1: the that's when you're creating an atmosphere, right Shi, It
Speaker 1: has to happen when your music comes on.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, my ladies, they need it.
Speaker 4: You know, it's raw, it's to the point, you know,
Speaker 4: you know how it gets as you say. I want
Speaker 4: to say this first, I'm so honored. Literally I have
Speaker 4: been listening to your music, your influence for years. So
Speaker 4: whatever you see in me is literally you know, me
Speaker 4: just taking from everything that I've heard from you, and
Speaker 4: I'm honored to be here.
Speaker 1: Awesome.
Speaker 4: I just have to throw that I'm such a student
Speaker 4: of the game and I can tell you just do
Speaker 4: not know.
Speaker 3: This means so much to me.
Speaker 1: Absolutely so we're blessed to have you because you cook it.
Speaker 1: Because you cook it, and I think that you know
Speaker 1: you represent I think we give, we give flowers, and
Speaker 1: we give celebration to anybody. What I say, who can
Speaker 1: get off that bench? You know what I'm saying and
Speaker 1: get into the space, because it's hard enough to just
Speaker 1: get in the game and to have some some success
Speaker 1: regardless of your level of talent. But you, for us,
Speaker 1: you represent a very high level of talent. You represent
Speaker 1: where we come from, like we come from, real hard
Speaker 1: workingction and true gift. You know what I mean, This is.
Speaker 3: My whole soul.
Speaker 4: I get so much song when I hear when I
Speaker 4: hear your voice, your music, That's what I try to
Speaker 4: bring to the game, to my soul. So it was like,
Speaker 4: you know, you keep it robbing kind of straight to
Speaker 4: the point. I agree, it has to be felt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because your your truth resonates with with with everyone
Speaker 1: that's within that connective fiber, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You like you never you never really realize how many
Speaker 1: people now that are just listening but are connected to
Speaker 1: your journey. Like it it's beyond say that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my god, the journey. Yeah yeah, I've been
Speaker 4: making music so long y'all, so I felt that word
Speaker 4: the journey.
Speaker 1: Get into that. When's the first time somebody said, bab
Speaker 1: this one right here? Got it?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I started making music in my basement,
Speaker 4: So my journey has been for years back in twenty
Speaker 4: twelve is when I got my start. So this is
Speaker 4: like Chicago days when I didn't have a dime and
Speaker 4: all I had was a computer and my father, he
Speaker 4: would have recorded me in my basement. Your father, your
Speaker 4: father's My father was my engineer. He recorded my first
Speaker 4: two mixtapes. Yeah, shout out to my father. He really
Speaker 4: really did his did his big one. My first supporter. So,
Speaker 4: like I say, this is like really built into me
Speaker 4: from an early age. I had to be about thirteen
Speaker 4: and we started molding this, you know, this artistry in
Speaker 4: the basement. He would sit at his guitar. You know,
Speaker 4: I would get an hour on the weekends. He had
Speaker 4: things to do, so you know, I had to make
Speaker 4: sure I came prepared. It came with my my lyrics ready.
Speaker 4: And that's why I take it so serious, y'all because
Speaker 4: I've been doing this.
Speaker 3: For a long long time. Yeah, So it's in me,
Speaker 3: really in me.
Speaker 1: That is that family dynamic is crazy. Pops with the
Speaker 1: engineering and with the guitar. Was he was he in
Speaker 1: the in the space as a professional.
Speaker 4: Well, no, he was the engineer and he also played
Speaker 4: He plays piano and guitar, so he would have artists
Speaker 4: come through the basement and I would kind of watch
Speaker 4: people record. My mom was a gospel singer, so she
Speaker 4: would be around the house singing all day. She also
Speaker 4: recorded her own songs and wrote her own material. So
Speaker 4: music is just like all throughout my family. My father
Speaker 4: would record her and I would just watch this as
Speaker 4: a baby growing up, just taking notes.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I would be trying to peek down the stairs, like
Speaker 4: who's coming in to day? You know which y'all recording
Speaker 4: what she talking about. But that's how I got my start,
Speaker 4: just watching, and I asked my father one day, can
Speaker 4: you record me or show me how to you know,
Speaker 4: show me.
Speaker 3: How to record music?
Speaker 4: And he gave me, you know, my first my first
Speaker 4: couple of records, and I took it from there.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. So Pops was doing the tracks. Well.
Speaker 3: I would find my beasts on YouTube, y'all.
Speaker 4: This is like early so I would find, like, you know,
Speaker 4: found my beats wherever I could, and my father would
Speaker 4: engineer me and then he would kind of help me
Speaker 4: mix it down and add pieces guitar here and there.
Speaker 4: So my biggest record is like treat me like somebody.
Speaker 4: We recorded that in the basement. He had gave me
Speaker 4: two hours. You know, it was just a Saturday, and
Speaker 4: you know, like I say, he had a job, so
Speaker 4: he couldn't he couldn't record all day. I had two
Speaker 4: hours to come in and do what I had to do.
Speaker 4: And that's probably one of my biggest records to date.
Speaker 4: So I owe my father so much credit, so much credit.
Speaker 2: And it's dope because it gave you, in a sense,
Speaker 2: early studio etiquette understanding, like when.
Speaker 1: I come here, I'm here to work.
Speaker 3: That's what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's it's very serious for me, like I didn't have
Speaker 4: time to play or you know, I had like maybe
Speaker 4: one loop to do the song and then we would
Speaker 4: go and do another loop of ad libs.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like you can you know kind of.
Speaker 1: And then none of that exactly.
Speaker 3: It was a one take thing. I didn't have a
Speaker 3: the time. He didn't have a lot of time.
Speaker 4: So yeah, you know that really just trained me to
Speaker 4: go in and have you have your music rehearsed. I
Speaker 4: was practicing before I went in that basement, and you.
Speaker 1: Know what, that's that's lost. Practicing before you go in
Speaker 1: the studio. That's lost because I used to do that,
Speaker 1: Like if I would was writing songs or whatever before
Speaker 1: I actually because I would write it in my basement, make
Speaker 1: the tracks and do all the stuff, and I'd be
Speaker 1: singing it and figuring, and I'd figure out my my
Speaker 1: vibe and my mode where I wanted to land. And
Speaker 1: by the time I got to the studio on them
Speaker 1: a dat's you knew what you want to do. I'm
Speaker 1: recording four or five songs a day because I already
Speaker 1: I'm already rehearsed. But that also that's also a different
Speaker 1: level of gift, right because you know a lot of
Speaker 1: times artists need songs, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 1: so the creative process for them may not happen until
Speaker 1: they get there, right. But for those that get the
Speaker 1: song beforehand, of like this is a smash, I need
Speaker 1: this record, that's the time you start building on that
Speaker 1: record and start writing on the on the on the lyrics. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is where I'm gonna go here, I'm okay, I
Speaker 1: want to feel like this on.
Speaker 4: That Like I love that I still write on paper,
Speaker 4: I still make my notes and you know you'll see
Speaker 4: a scratch sheet with me arrow up. That means you
Speaker 4: need to be a little stronger. I rolled down gets solved.
Speaker 4: I still do that to this day. So that's crazy
Speaker 4: you mentioned that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because like Chicago is Chicago's Chicago, Chicago's music, Chicago
Speaker 1: is music, but Chicago also has this this this undercurrent
Speaker 1: of of foolishness that you can dip into easily. Was
Speaker 1: it was it your pops in the family that kept
Speaker 1: you from being part of that because those things kind
Speaker 1: of go hand in hand town mixed in.
Speaker 3: With the streets.
Speaker 4: I feel like it was a point in Chicago where
Speaker 4: I felt like I had to be visible. And you
Speaker 4: gotta remember, drill drill rap was a heavy part of music.
Speaker 4: So I did take a couple of years where I
Speaker 4: was like, you know, I also want to mess with
Speaker 4: the rap and I can get I see, I can
Speaker 4: get some fans if I put a little aggression behind
Speaker 4: my music. So you know, it was a It was
Speaker 4: a couple of years where you know, I shot away
Speaker 4: from the R and B and I was rapping.
Speaker 3: So a lot of people don't know that too. I
Speaker 3: used to really I used.
Speaker 4: To really rap, like drill rap, like very very much
Speaker 4: hard rap, and but for me, that was just me
Speaker 4: riding a wave and I knew that people wanted to
Speaker 4: hear it. So that's why I say I'm so, I'm
Speaker 4: so kind of like multi talented. I can also, you know,
Speaker 4: we can draw bars if we want to. I can sing,
Speaker 4: I can I can get hard if.
Speaker 3: We need to.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, I feel like Chicago got a lot of
Speaker 4: influence on my music. I try to keep the lingo
Speaker 4: in there. I make sure like I don't want to
Speaker 4: sound too polished. I don't want to sound too I
Speaker 4: never wanted to get to a point where the streets
Speaker 4: don't feel me. So for that reason, my R and
Speaker 4: B still feels tough, and I still keep the same
Speaker 4: lingo in the.
Speaker 3: R and B.
Speaker 1: It's relatable.
Speaker 3: I'm blending it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're a rapper as well, don't start this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was a terrible rapper. You were you, I would
Speaker 1: say I wasn't a terrible rapper. I wasn't a terrible rapper. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this is a reoccurring theme that always
Speaker 1: happens because he tries to discredit me. I had a
Speaker 1: rap called Rated R that was killing the hood. He
Speaker 1: didn't get out of the church until he was twenty seven.
Speaker 1: I was rapping while on all the.
Speaker 3: Church church, Yeah, half past.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know the Turks over here, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Hey, no, my Midwest. I was in Milwaukee rapping.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 1: I used to compete against like you know, Vice Lawds
Speaker 1: and the Gangster Disciples and all of them, and they
Speaker 1: beat this kid coming up rapping against them. It didn't
Speaker 1: go far. But while I was young, I had the gift.
Speaker 1: I didn't even you know what you had was way
Speaker 1: before Jay z Oh, when do you feel like? When
Speaker 1: do you feel like there was a breakout moment for
Speaker 1: you where even though you know you have the gift,
Speaker 1: even though you know you have the work ethic, there's
Speaker 1: this defining moment that lets you know that you can
Speaker 1: do this on the level where you hear the people
Speaker 1: on the radio, the concerts you go to, like, there's
Speaker 1: a moment that specifically speaks to you.
Speaker 4: For me, when I met Timbaland in twenty fifteen, I
Speaker 4: felt like that was a breakthrough.
Speaker 3: Coming from the streets to Chicago.
Speaker 4: That was a big deal and it also gave me
Speaker 4: the platform. You know, our situation it worked out the
Speaker 4: way it worked out, but I did take I did
Speaker 4: gain a lot of attention and fans so I'm grateful
Speaker 4: for that. We had a record call million, and I
Speaker 4: also just was able to go to different pace pla.
Speaker 3: I was on a breakfast club rapping.
Speaker 4: I had wrapped over a record with Jay Z and
Speaker 4: Rick Ross, so that kind of had like a New
Speaker 4: York in a in a big frenzy, and I just
Speaker 4: called a lot of attention off of those baby steps
Speaker 4: with Tim. So I think I had a fan base,
Speaker 4: but the world didn't really understand who I was. So
Speaker 4: when I met Tim, that gave me kind of a
Speaker 4: what would you call it commercial commercial attention?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so that was a big deal for me.
Speaker 4: I still thank him just for you know, giving me
Speaker 4: the promotion, and you know, I took what I could
Speaker 4: from that situation, but that helped me elevate so that
Speaker 4: I could shake hands with different producers. I got around him,
Speaker 4: and I was kind of able to see how, you know,
Speaker 4: the studio worked in these big corporate labels. So all
Speaker 4: my relationships, I just started making sure that I was,
Speaker 4: you know, keeping good graces with everybody I've met.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then so you say Timberland, who is my
Speaker 1: favorite producer.
Speaker 4: Of course, of course legendary all times. So grateful that
Speaker 4: we got to make anything. You know, to be in
Speaker 4: a room with him, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, he's he's one of those guys. Like when
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out how to produce, I
Speaker 1: would recreate all of his beats from Aliyah to Genuine
Speaker 1: to Missy. I would get on this keyboard that only
Speaker 1: had nine tracks and try and figure out how Timberland
Speaker 1: was doing what he was doing.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. You know.
Speaker 2: He's one of the people who changed the sound of
Speaker 2: music a few times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he changed the sound of.
Speaker 4: Music exactly, and that's what I appreciate With Tim. We
Speaker 4: definitely had a sound, and that made me branch out
Speaker 4: instead of focusing on drill. I was kind of like
Speaker 4: molding my sound and working on different type of different
Speaker 4: production and beats. So I do feel like that gave
Speaker 4: me a broader image of music and brought me out
Speaker 4: of the slums, you know what I mean, because I was, really,
Speaker 4: like I say, he found me. I was in Chicago
Speaker 4: still kind of like rapping and going into studio sessions
Speaker 4: in the hood, and so it was just a different
Speaker 4: vibration with Timberland, and it elevated me.
Speaker 1: So did you go to did you go to Miami.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were working at because that's a whole other
Speaker 4: world because, like you say, in the hood, going to
Speaker 4: hood studios, I know what that with the Timberland Miami
Speaker 4: studio sessions and that whole vibe is, that's a whole
Speaker 4: completely different world.
Speaker 3: Completely different world.
Speaker 4: Like I said, the studios and walking in and having
Speaker 4: fresh fruit, walking in and having fresh fruit and having
Speaker 4: a runner that can bring you tea, and you know,
Speaker 4: just having time to really master the song. All of
Speaker 4: that was so different to me. I was, like I say,
Speaker 4: working in bedroom studios. So when I met him, everything
Speaker 4: was just ten times more grand, and it made me
Speaker 4: kind of step my game up because I'm like, I'm
Speaker 4: in this room. I got to make sure that I'm
Speaker 4: presenting the music right, I gotta kind to go crazy.
Speaker 4: So yeah, absolutely it was. The studio was different. The
Speaker 4: people he had coming in the studio. You know, I
Speaker 4: met so many artists or so many producers, people that
Speaker 4: would just come in and listen to to Timberland and
Speaker 4: our work. So that's why I say, I was really
Speaker 4: just making relationships with everybody, and that helped so much.
Speaker 4: I was even able to get in a studio with
Speaker 4: Rihanna by you know, being under timblandce Wing. So that
Speaker 4: was just a blessing, y'all. Like I'm coming from Chicago.
Speaker 4: You gotta remember, this is like the dirty Hood. And
Speaker 4: he saw something in me that nobody else saw at
Speaker 4: the time. So I owe a lot of credit to
Speaker 4: Tim just for bringing me, bringing me up with him.
Speaker 4: You know, even if I we never dropped the album,
Speaker 4: he gave me so much inspiration.
Speaker 1: I think that that introduction and validation was all I
Speaker 1: needed to hear.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1: I didn't even need to hear you do anything.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Tim, like I said, he was my biggest
Speaker 4: my biggest you know, he was my biggest supporter. He
Speaker 4: was going on he was on the radios, yes, and
Speaker 4: he would just say whatever came to mind. And I
Speaker 4: appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Though. You need people in your corner that are ten
Speaker 3: toes down.
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry question for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you come from that or you go to
Speaker 2: that from where you come from, and then it don't
Speaker 2: work out maybe how it was planned to. I feel
Speaker 2: like you are an artist that should be or that
Speaker 2: even should be, an artist that is inspiring to all
Speaker 2: of the artists coming up because you're you didn't just
Speaker 2: have this this career that just went like this here,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you're still going and
Speaker 2: how how life really works, and that you're the story
Speaker 2: that they don't always tell. They always talk about like oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you heard that record with her right now, and she
Speaker 2: on tour with such and.
Speaker 1: Such like No, it's the whole thing to go to.
Speaker 2: These things have to connect and you have to not
Speaker 2: give up. So my question to you is when that
Speaker 2: doesn't go maybe the way that it was planned for you,
Speaker 2: how does what is your mindset at that point when
Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, I had this record deal, I'm with,
Speaker 2: you know, one of the greatest producers of all time,
Speaker 2: and now I'm back by myself with it.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 3: It was extremely hard. I was.
Speaker 4: I took a season and I had to kind of
Speaker 4: distance myself from music altogether.
Speaker 3: I took a year away.
Speaker 4: Literally, I didn't post, I was kind of I turned
Speaker 4: into a ghost on social media. But I had to.
Speaker 4: I had to go and find myself as an artist.
Speaker 4: That was the season for me to rebrand. And I
Speaker 4: think a lot of the greatest artists we have seasons
Speaker 4: they have seasons where they come back as somebody different,
Speaker 4: and I had to kind of, I guess, you know.
Speaker 3: Become tink, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like I was young, like I said, I was maybe twenty,
Speaker 4: and at that time, I didn't have a chance to
Speaker 4: really grow the fuck up. And so that year I
Speaker 4: took time to, like I say, get my business in order,
Speaker 4: rework my team. I had to find new management, find
Speaker 4: a new attorney. I went back into my paperwork and
Speaker 4: just really focused on.
Speaker 3: What was right for me.
Speaker 4: Like I say, when I signed, I was so young,
Speaker 4: I was moving fast, so I just had to tighten up.
Speaker 4: And I think that's as an artist, every year were
Speaker 4: supposed to tighten up, and it's nothing wrong with taking
Speaker 4: some time to you know, rework your vision. So for me,
Speaker 4: I really needed that. I needed to sit down. I
Speaker 4: needed to think about what I wanted to present to
Speaker 4: the world. And it just gave me that push, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like when you know you got
Speaker 4: something and it's like, okay, I'm trying it this way.
Speaker 4: If that doesn't work, I got to find a way
Speaker 4: that I can get through this door. So that gave
Speaker 4: me that push, that that motivation y'all, Like, you know,
Speaker 4: the game really got me messed up. I'm about to
Speaker 4: do something. I have to find a way, and you
Speaker 4: took a person.
Speaker 3: I took it personal. I really I really did. And
Speaker 3: like I say, I had to come hard and that's.
Speaker 4: When I got in my independent bag and my music
Speaker 4: became more authentic.
Speaker 3: And I wasn't trying to please the studio. It was
Speaker 3: for me, you know.
Speaker 1: And who went on your way back? Who was the who?
Speaker 1: What was the call? What was the like, you know,
Speaker 1: oh we're fucking with this, we need to lock in
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 3: Honestly, it wasn't a call.
Speaker 4: It took years and to rebuild, you know what I
Speaker 4: was what I was trying to do, and I honestly
Speaker 4: owe it to my Day one fans. You know, I
Speaker 4: had to kind of go back and, like I say,
Speaker 4: reinvent and start at ground zero. And I wasn't a
Speaker 4: afraid of that. You know, I was mocked, I was
Speaker 4: laughed at and a lot of people, you know, I
Speaker 4: thought it was over for me, but I knew I
Speaker 4: had a cult fan base and as long as I
Speaker 4: could reach my fans on social media and I could
Speaker 4: tell them, hey, I have something to drop I'm gonna
Speaker 4: be okay. So again, I did many tours, bars and clubs.
Speaker 4: I was like performing for a crowd of hundreds at first.
Speaker 4: You know, Mickey Man may know them days too, where
Speaker 4: we were just kind of hustling on the street. You know.
Speaker 4: I went back to the street, the street method, and
Speaker 4: for me, it was just dropping consistently, consistently. Every year,
Speaker 4: every six months, I was putting out an album or
Speaker 4: an EP, and even if it every six months, I
Speaker 4: had to just to kind of make up for that
Speaker 4: time and you know, re re enter the game. So
Speaker 4: it's just consistent work. I had to double up.
Speaker 1: How many projects do you know?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, y'all I have at least, it's really crazy,
Speaker 4: I have at least I want to stay between ten
Speaker 4: to fifteen projects in total.
Speaker 3: Wow, fourteen in total over the last decade so since.
Speaker 4: I want to say in twenty fifteen, I had mixedtapes
Speaker 4: before I met Tim, had a lot.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's a lot. I put out a lot
Speaker 3: of material.
Speaker 4: I don't have the luxury of sitting back and I
Speaker 4: don't have the you know, I'm not at the level
Speaker 4: where I can relax, So for me, I have to
Speaker 4: be consistent. You know, as much music is dropping, y'all,
Speaker 4: music drops, so every.
Speaker 1: Day, Yeah, you don't let them forget.
Speaker 4: I can't let them forget. I don't have that luxury.
Speaker 4: And also though, just to just to mention, I love
Speaker 4: making music.
Speaker 3: I would do that. I would do it regardless.
Speaker 1: What is your first hit moment? I won't say hit record,
Speaker 1: what what song creates that hit moment for you?
Speaker 4: For me, it was I had two records and I
Speaker 4: didn't know that they were hits until later. But there's
Speaker 4: a record called Treat Me Like Somebody R and B
Speaker 4: record nothing but Me and a guitar, And there's also
Speaker 4: a record called Don't Tell Nobody feature in Jeremiah. And
Speaker 4: at the moment, y'all, we didn't have a budget. I
Speaker 4: didn't put any money into these records. I didn't have
Speaker 4: a crazy video behind them. Don't Tell Nobody doesn't have
Speaker 4: any of your visual at all. But that's what I
Speaker 4: mean when I'm like, we didn't really know what we
Speaker 4: were working with. It took years for me to understand
Speaker 4: how big these records were, Like I'm just out figuring
Speaker 4: out that, you know, those were the two people.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yes, thank you, literally treat me like somebody.
Speaker 4: It's my it's my biggest song to perform, and it's
Speaker 4: shocking because it's over ten years old and I'm so
Speaker 4: tired of performing it.
Speaker 1: But don't you do this? Don't you do it?
Speaker 4: Sometimes I'm like, oh my god, we gotta do treat
Speaker 4: me like somebody, And they're like, they want to hear
Speaker 4: that one.
Speaker 3: You can do a new one, but you gotta do
Speaker 3: that way.
Speaker 1: So maybe I deserve will always be always like those
Speaker 1: They're just defining records. They are records that make you
Speaker 1: you right and connect that cult following to you. You
Speaker 1: you cannot deny the cult. They will come after exactly.
Speaker 1: They get upset, but that perform such and such right,
Speaker 1: we've been. We went through that with uh funow with me,
Speaker 1: I'll fuck with me for sure, definitely with me. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying the idea that we didn't know the streets.
Speaker 1: The streets had picked that record up and ran with.
Speaker 2: Never a single, never Anye. It just came on, like
Speaker 2: you said, no visual, no video, nothing.
Speaker 1: It came on during the show one day and people
Speaker 1: just got up and started screaming. I was looking around,
Speaker 1: like somebody walk out and niggas started screaming. I started
Speaker 1: singing the song. I was saying, well, let me put
Speaker 1: this body roll in this see we own. It's the
Speaker 1: people will. The people will let you know. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And the great part is that you're
Speaker 1: you're out here. You're out here on this prideless venture,
Speaker 1: hitting whatever spot you gotta hit list. It's gotta be that.
Speaker 3: No ego with me. I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't look at the game like you know, I'm
Speaker 4: too good for anything because I've seen I've seen how
Speaker 4: we can come up. And I've seen the lows too,
Speaker 4: So I appreciate the small venues. I appreciate the theaters.
Speaker 4: I appreciate when I have to do a host thing,
Speaker 4: you know, like I say, a season when nobody was
Speaker 4: calling and I couldn't get an opportunity to perform. So
Speaker 4: I'm taking every I'm taking everything that comes my way
Speaker 4: because I'm so grateful.
Speaker 2: I've seen it with my own eyes. I got a
Speaker 2: call from my brother. He said, you need to come
Speaker 2: to Chicago. You gotta see it, Mike, all right, is
Speaker 2: my brother.
Speaker 3: Nobody comes to Chicago. Let me say that people I saw.
Speaker 1: I had no other reason to be there.
Speaker 2: My reason for being in Chicago was for you because
Speaker 2: of the phone call.
Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate that I look out for me.
Speaker 2: I get the phone call from Mickey and I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, I'm on my way.
Speaker 1: I love y'all food. Let's start there and Tank and tell.
Speaker 3: You forget, no, no, no on that food.
Speaker 2: Chicago's food is amazing. And Tank will tell you that
Speaker 2: when they asked, like is Jay coming, and I'd be like,
Speaker 2: how's the food there? I go to the places where
Speaker 2: the food is good.
Speaker 1: That's how they will get out in the street and
Speaker 1: walk around and uber around, walking around looking for food.
Speaker 1: I can't do it no more because of this damn podcast.
Speaker 2: And now they'd be like, I'm just trying to grab
Speaker 2: you some of this U what is it called Luminati's pizza?
Speaker 1: Y'all got out here and I'm trying to go to
Speaker 1: these steakhouses. I'm just trying to chill.
Speaker 2: But so I get to Chicago and I don't really
Speaker 2: like I had heard of you. I'd heard of you,
Speaker 2: and i'd heard a couple of songs. And the other
Speaker 2: person that used to always scream your name to me
Speaker 2: was Coshion, always screaming your.
Speaker 3: Names right, and gave me one of my biggest.
Speaker 2: Records, always screaming your name right. So I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: these these are my brothers. They they are vouching. I
Speaker 2: am going to Chicago and I'm like, Mack, Where's where's
Speaker 2: the show?
Speaker 1: He's like, Chicago Theater. I'm like, Chicago Theater. I've been
Speaker 1: to Chicago Theater. That's thirty five hundred, one of the
Speaker 1: biggest theaters. I know what that venue.
Speaker 2: Isn't Okay, So she's doing three three thousand plus seats.
Speaker 2: Let's see what it's about to be because I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't fully know yet. When I get there, it
Speaker 2: is packed all the way to the concession.
Speaker 1: Stand and I'm like, Mickey, what the fuck? He's like
Speaker 1: here like Broski, I told you they love her.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: When you got on that stage after and this is
Speaker 2: the other thing I loved about. You know what y'all
Speaker 2: all had set up. You got the glam on side
Speaker 2: of the stage. They getting you right before. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this ain't just in the in the dressing room. You're
Speaker 2: gonna go right here. They doing this, they you changing outfits.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh ship, no major label.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, let's let's talk about that. Independent independence.
Speaker 4: This is all independent off the strength of a maybe
Speaker 4: four person team.
Speaker 3: You know, you know.
Speaker 1: What y'all doing is incredible. You called me right after you.
Speaker 2: I called I said, a tank. What I just saw there?
Speaker 1: I said? She cracking up, cracking, I appreciate this is year.
Speaker 1: This is a good one. How many years back? Is
Speaker 1: this for sure? Yeah? Yeah? When he said Chicago Theater,
Speaker 1: I was like, not Chicagoo.
Speaker 2: I called Tank and I called Ghazi because that's my brother,
Speaker 2: and I knew that. You know, you guys have been
Speaker 2: doing you know, your projects with him.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, and I'm I'm glad you're talking about
Speaker 4: this because I'm very humble, so I don't really like
Speaker 4: put things in people's face.
Speaker 3: It was packed out three thousands, but I appreciate that
Speaker 3: because y'all it's not easy to get on stage in
Speaker 3: front of you know, thousands, or even just to sell
Speaker 3: one hundred tickets. It's not easy for any of us artists.
Speaker 3: And like you said, the.
Speaker 4: Hard tickets come on. But seriously, I'm putting a lot
Speaker 4: into my shows now. I'm not I'm not trying to
Speaker 4: be an artist that's here today, gone tomorrow. I want
Speaker 4: people to come back to see me and I want
Speaker 4: my tours to be memorable, and I think that's also
Speaker 4: lost in this game too. Like as as an R
Speaker 4: and B artist, I'm really dancing and I'm really using
Speaker 4: live vocals and we're working the tracks to make it,
Speaker 4: you know, to make things sound huge, and everything is
Speaker 4: done off the muscle.
Speaker 3: I don't have a major label.
Speaker 4: I'm signed under to myself as an independent artist. I'm
Speaker 4: signed to myself as an independent artist like MEA Records.
Speaker 4: So I don't have a major major. Winter's Diary Records.
Speaker 4: It's a partnership with the Empire, but my company is
Speaker 4: when it's Diary, So all of my music comes through
Speaker 4: w D Records. So and I've never said that I'm
Speaker 4: not I'm not here to like put in people's faces.
Speaker 2: But today today let me.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: So yeah, everything is backed by me independent, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean? And that just says I want people
Speaker 4: to know, like I'm what am I trying to say? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I just want people to know this is not an
Speaker 4: easy thing. So the support means a lot. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm a black female. That that's another you know, just
Speaker 4: another fight and if you know, you know, so yeah,
Speaker 4: everything and everything that's on the way. It's really I'm
Speaker 4: really fighting for it, and it's deserved. So I just
Speaker 4: want to say that, you know, I appreciate that support.
Speaker 1: It's not You've got our full support.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I had to. I had no choice.
Speaker 4: And that's that's why I say that year that I
Speaker 4: took away it built me.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I've been fucked up and I've had a year when
Speaker 4: nobody wanted to call me to put on a show.
Speaker 4: So when I get on that stage, I'm making sure
Speaker 4: my dancer is already and I making sure we are
Speaker 4: rehearsing weeks in advance, you know what I mean. I'm
Speaker 4: not just here for a moment. I want this to
Speaker 4: be a lifelong thing.
Speaker 2: I remember running up on you because I am known
Speaker 2: for that. Yeah, because if I if I I'm just
Speaker 2: one of those type of people. If I fuck with you,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you'll fuck with you at the Grammy party.
Speaker 2: At the Empire Grammy Party.
Speaker 1: I'm like, when are you coming on this podcast?
Speaker 3: Thank you? That's what I mean. I've been ready.
Speaker 4: I've been waiting to see y'all for a long time,
Speaker 4: and I think the timing now is so much better, y'all.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 3: I was in a crazy space.
Speaker 4: You know, the past couple of years have been a
Speaker 4: roller coaster, and I'm finally able to tell my story
Speaker 4: myself and I feel confident talking to y'all in I
Speaker 4: feel at ease, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And I also just had to put in some more work.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm so honored, Like I say, like, you know,
Speaker 4: I don't think y'all understand how legendary y'all lied to me.
Speaker 4: And even you know Tank, when we were speaking, you know,
Speaker 4: you had mentioned like you were going on tour, and
Speaker 4: I lost my mind about that. I was like, you know,
Speaker 4: did Tank just mention a tour? So I'm just grateful
Speaker 4: y'all in that moment, you know, I was ready. I
Speaker 4: told make like, we have to get this done. But
Speaker 4: the timing is perfect.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now listen, we were willing, we were willing to
Speaker 2: to wait until you are ready. Absolutely, because that's that's
Speaker 2: the other thing about us. Yeah, you know, for artists,
Speaker 2: because he don't do as much as I do. But
Speaker 2: like I see, and it's gonna make it even crazier
Speaker 2: my in my comments, but I see the artists that
Speaker 2: they ask for so when I see them, and I
Speaker 2: appreciate what people do. If I see you in person,
Speaker 2: I'm going to hey, yeah, we're ready when you are.
Speaker 2: But it's not like it's a if you don't come
Speaker 2: in the next no, no, no, Our invitations are open invitation.
Speaker 2: That's why we that's.
Speaker 1: Why we did this.
Speaker 2: Yes, we started this a genuine place that we just
Speaker 2: really care about other artists and showcasing their their gifts
Speaker 2: and talking about their journey.
Speaker 3: And I'm thankful for that.
Speaker 4: I do meet a lot of people like you know,
Speaker 4: if something, if something doesn't fall through, it's like in
Speaker 4: this industry is cutthroat, it's fuck you.
Speaker 3: Was the love there for real? Y'all? Or you know?
Speaker 3: So I appreciate this. That says so much.
Speaker 4: You know, like I say, I've seen a lot of
Speaker 4: people come and go in my life in this industry,
Speaker 4: and you know, to have people that are in your corner,
Speaker 4: I don't take that for granted.
Speaker 3: Serious.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about this Winter's Diary. Talk about it. Come on, because.
Speaker 2: Now I didn't know that the label was named Winter's Diy.
Speaker 1: I know about the you know the valumes.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's so many layers. Yes, this is number five,
Speaker 4: This this has been a long journey. Since twenty twelve,
Speaker 4: I've been dropping w D you know, Winter's Diary mixtapes,
Speaker 4: So that's what makes this specialists the album and some
Speaker 4: of my biggest songs were from my mixtape era. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so the fans are kind of attached to Winter's Diary,
Speaker 4: and you know, I'm really telling my life in these records,
Speaker 4: and that's why it's so personal and hard for me
Speaker 4: to even you know, speak on because the songs ain't pretty,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, My story ain't pretty, and
Speaker 4: it takes a lot for me to get vulnerable and
Speaker 4: and talk about the ship that I'm dealing with. So
Speaker 4: that's why this album being a you know, a Winner's
Speaker 4: Diary and an album, it's just a lot of growth.
Speaker 4: And it takes a lot of good to release this
Speaker 4: and promoted and you know, have to read the comments.
Speaker 1: And yes, yes, well I'm I'm a lot older and
Speaker 1: I went through you know, it's your current, as they
Speaker 1: say in my threading, you know that's how I feel,
Speaker 1: you know, and I remember when social media first kind
Speaker 1: of broke out, you know what I'm saying, And and
Speaker 1: you know, of course our art is personal for us.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and people being in the comments,
Speaker 1: you know, saying whatever they want to say, making up
Speaker 1: whatever they want to make up, you know, in the
Speaker 1: name of having an opinion. I didn't like that ship,
Speaker 1: and I would get a phone call from about every morning, like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck are you doing? These motherfuckers can't do
Speaker 1: this to me. Be playing basketball, he's shop program. He
Speaker 1: really mad about probably a fifteen year old bro. I
Speaker 1: just want to just fucking with me. But it took
Speaker 1: me so long to realize that those people and those
Speaker 1: comments don't even fucking matter, you know it in doing
Speaker 1: business right, in doing business, no one has ever asked
Speaker 1: the brand is never asked what type of comments are
Speaker 1: you getting? What type of interaction are you getting? They've
Speaker 1: only asked how much you're getting. They just want they
Speaker 1: just want to see the number. Kid a fuck what
Speaker 1: they're saying. So I'm like, oh, I needed that one.
Speaker 1: So as long as they talking, I'm good. Yeah, y'all
Speaker 1: could say whatever the fuck y'all want to say, talk
Speaker 1: on And I'm asking you, like, because those comments can
Speaker 1: be they can they can be they can.
Speaker 4: Be hurtful, they can be a lot absolutely social media,
Speaker 4: I've never never expressed this, but it gives me anxiety
Speaker 4: and this day. When when it first came out, I
Speaker 4: felt like it was a fun place and I felt like.
Speaker 3: It was easier for me to jump on.
Speaker 4: But now you know, I'm kind of I'm kind of
Speaker 4: I'm on it when I'm on it, and then I
Speaker 4: step away. You know, I'm not even looking through the
Speaker 4: comments anymore because it's what you say.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not.
Speaker 4: All love out here, and a lot of times people
Speaker 4: are just home and board, and you know, I can't.
Speaker 4: I can't feed into it because it'll affect my spirit. So,
Speaker 4: like I said, I post what I gotta post.
Speaker 3: I talk to my.
Speaker 4: Fans, the positive ones, and you know, I keep it moving.
Speaker 4: I try not to dwell. I'm not in the blogs
Speaker 4: in their comments. You know, if there's something big that happens,
Speaker 4: I'll ask my manager and my team, you know, let
Speaker 4: me know what you know, what's going on, what they're saying.
Speaker 4: But social media is a toxic place, so you have
Speaker 4: to use it for your for the good, and you know,
Speaker 4: if you get wrapped into it. I notice a lot
Speaker 4: of artists we can crash out behind social media, and
Speaker 4: I've had my days where you know, I've had my days,
Speaker 4: so I have to really balance it and find a
Speaker 4: happy medium. And you know, some days I'm not even
Speaker 4: on Twitter right now because I don't want to put
Speaker 4: negative energy out in you know, sometimes it'll be an
Speaker 4: outlet for me just to talk shit, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't want this to be my my
Speaker 4: you know, my story, like when people check my Twitter
Speaker 4: negative thoughts exactly. So I take my time and my
Speaker 4: breaks because I don't want that ship to consume me.
Speaker 4: And that's not all all that I am. And I
Speaker 4: think it's helped me, you know. So it's a little
Speaker 4: mystique mystery. Mystery is really nice. So I show what
Speaker 4: I want to show. And yeah, you know, you have
Speaker 4: to be careful out on social media.
Speaker 1: And I think that you know that the lesson for
Speaker 1: most artists is create the thing. Give them the thing
Speaker 1: that you want them to see, yes, the thing that
Speaker 1: they should have an opinion about, the thing that they
Speaker 1: should make a decision about. You can make a decision
Speaker 1: about this all day, you can like or love this
Speaker 1: all day, but I'm not going to give you the
Speaker 1: thing that It's precious to me for you to make
Speaker 1: a DICIPLEM you'll get none of that. I won't even
Speaker 1: know it exists. I know that he was, You're not.
Speaker 1: You're not supposed to know because this is mine, right,
Speaker 1: this did I give you. You have to keep something
Speaker 1: for yourself. I got to keep something. You just got
Speaker 1: to keep something for yourself. So all of these fourteen projects.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, Yes, it is crazy.
Speaker 1: I know this is going to be a hard question.
Speaker 1: But what's your favorite one?
Speaker 3: Okay, my favorite?
Speaker 4: My favorite album it's called Hopeless Romantic and I dropped
Speaker 4: that maybe about three years ago, four years ago. But
Speaker 4: I feel like that, to me, was an album that
Speaker 4: I wrote entirely, so maybe that has something to do
Speaker 4: with it.
Speaker 3: It was it was all. It was all on me
Speaker 3: on that way.
Speaker 4: But you know what I mean, The songs really resonate
Speaker 4: in my soul. So and that was my first album
Speaker 4: to have like a gold or platinum record. So I
Speaker 4: saw I saw it pay y'all. So that gave me,
Speaker 4: you know, some some real motivation.
Speaker 1: Money too, real money too. Yes, Yes, plaque talk.
Speaker 4: Yes, when I walked in y'all, I've seen at least
Speaker 4: fifty plaques on the wall, and yeah, that did it
Speaker 4: for me.
Speaker 3: Big Tank. Yeah, I've seen it.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get my I'm gonna give my plex up, y'all.
Speaker 4: But yeah, that album.
Speaker 1: Give me a song from that album, I have a record.
Speaker 3: Called cut It Out. It was a turning point for me.
Speaker 4: I felt like I was I was quiet until I
Speaker 4: dropped Hopeless Romantic, and people really they just ate that
Speaker 4: album up. And I had so many songs on there
Speaker 4: that that were really like, you know, just going crazy,
Speaker 4: so cut it out. There's also a record that came
Speaker 4: after that album called Bottom Bottom Bitch. But I feel
Speaker 4: like that album gave me my LIGs, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. And once I dropped Hopeless Romantic, the calls
Speaker 4: were coming there and the shows were picking up, and
Speaker 4: I was able to tour from those records, and it
Speaker 4: just kind of put me back in my bag.
Speaker 1: I was about to ask that was Hopeless Romantic, like
Speaker 1: you at your most authentic, like you and for the
Speaker 1: first time, like you know what, Yes, I'm gonna live
Speaker 1: and die with me, this is me exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I had no fear on that album and nobody, nobody
Speaker 4: was there to tell me, you know, do it this way,
Speaker 4: do it that way. So it was a lot of freedom,
Speaker 4: and I like freedom. I feel like my songs really
Speaker 4: register when I'm able to say what I want.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you've been.
Speaker 1: You've been saying what you want.
Speaker 3: Absolutely yeah, yeah, talking about listen, I mean your record
Speaker 3: now is you know, songs about you?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Like it's very direct, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And I think even just even in collaboration with you
Speaker 2: in summer, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like people have been waiting.
Speaker 4: On that yes for a long time, and I'm so
Speaker 4: happy we finally have it. And it's good because a
Speaker 4: lot of people I see online they like to compare,
Speaker 4: you know, who do you love more? And oh it
Speaker 4: just it just makes me feel So it gets me
Speaker 4: so angry when I read that because I'm a fan
Speaker 4: of her. And and if you go back, you'll leave
Speaker 4: and see someone Walker singing treat me like somebody. You know,
Speaker 4: she did like a cover of you know My my
Speaker 4: old records. So there's a lot of love and the
Speaker 4: fans can really fuck you know, a bond up, a
Speaker 4: relationship up, and you know, and that's why I say,
Speaker 4: us doing this song just really made a statement out
Speaker 4: here for the girls, like you know, I ain't mad
Speaker 4: at summer, don't you know. Don't try to pit us
Speaker 4: against each other. Two black women making music and R
Speaker 4: and B. You know, we together and I support her,
Speaker 4: and you know, likewise, I feel like.
Speaker 1: There's so much camaraderie, especially in the fast. It's scary
Speaker 1: to our brothers in the game.
Speaker 3: It's so scary.
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, as much as they say it's
Speaker 4: a caddy caddy thing for women, a lot of it
Speaker 4: is caused by you know, the fans and social media
Speaker 4: and you know, people just making opinions on women. So
Speaker 4: just just I agreeable what you're saying. It's just a
Speaker 4: lot of competition. And I miss the days when you
Speaker 4: can see Miss Elliott, you know, Kim the Ladies night.
Speaker 4: I pray for times like that that we get to
Speaker 4: a level of unity.
Speaker 1: Y'all are closer thanenough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, you know I would say yes, because
Speaker 2: you know, y'all let each other.
Speaker 1: Have y'all man, m.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: That's that's the part that they don't, you know, they
Speaker 2: don't really that's the part when when people ask, like, well,
Speaker 2: why don't these R and B male singers do records together?
Speaker 1: Because they are trying to take the same ones.
Speaker 3: Behind the ladies.
Speaker 1: That's always.
Speaker 3: But I thought, man don't really care.
Speaker 1: I feel like they don't. Let them tell you that,
Speaker 1: it'd be a whole lot of pill of talking and
Speaker 1: dirty mack in and all. U never see those features together. Wow,
Speaker 1: because it's like men speak of a level of competition
Speaker 1: in this space, but they don't really want to compete.
Speaker 1: Y'all are putting it out there. I'll sing with whoever.
Speaker 1: Let's get Yes, let's let's get on it, let's get
Speaker 1: let's hit the road, whatever or whatever. I mean. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be mad at on tour us. Somebody gotta
Speaker 1: get hurt. Somebody got to start, you know. Calling the
Speaker 1: crewel and calling it just gets it over a woman.
Speaker 4: You're right, It does elevate a lot quicker with me.
Speaker 4: You're right, and I haven't thought of it that way,
Speaker 4: but yeah, me and take it, take it to a
Speaker 4: new level, a new height.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thank god we don't have those issues at
Speaker 1: R and B money. We work with everybody. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: also to you know, you gotta get to to to
Speaker 1: the nuance of I had girls. I was a kid
Speaker 1: in church, so women.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they used to bring me candy that's why I
Speaker 2: had civil tea.
Speaker 1: If they haven't seen that simvilitude post that I made,
Speaker 1: that's why they used to bring me candy to school.
Speaker 3: How brought this fend?
Speaker 1: It was? It was def a thing like I was
Speaker 1: a background singer for the guy. I was the background
Speaker 1: singer for genuine Wine. There was no way you're gonna
Speaker 1: get a girl before genuine wine. You have to wait
Speaker 1: till he made his choice.
Speaker 5: You have to wait whatever left, whatever, whatever, and then
Speaker 5: he might still walk choice to be willing to give
Speaker 5: that up for the greater cause it's bigger than me.
Speaker 3: You know why you're cutting up.
Speaker 1: But it's just like for the sake of the music
Speaker 1: and history to start coming together, we gotta start coming together.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying that. And that's why every like you know,
Speaker 1: with a lot of guys that come through to our platform,
Speaker 1: we let them know, Man, I fuck with you. Anything
Speaker 1: you need from us, it's up, let's do it. So
Speaker 1: you're moving around, yeah, yeah, around the country, the country
Speaker 1: and the world the world.
Speaker 3: Have you done overseas I did last year.
Speaker 4: We took the tour. We did about six cities in Europe,
Speaker 4: and that was an.
Speaker 3: Experience different in Europe very different, very different.
Speaker 1: And that can be that can be good and bad
Speaker 1: at the same time because it's so many differences.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it built a lot of character because I feel
Speaker 4: like in Europe they're a little more reserved at your
Speaker 4: shows and as in America where we're screaming, acting a fool,
Speaker 4: we dancing, Europe is a little more they have a
Speaker 4: lot of more poise. So yeah, it was different, and
Speaker 4: like I say, they didn't I went to like a
Speaker 4: Paris and a lot of a lot of the spots
Speaker 4: I was that.
Speaker 3: Didn't speak the language. So you have to perform without people,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, being as loud or singing
Speaker 3: every single word. So it built character, you know.
Speaker 4: And what they'll do, they'll wait until you're done and
Speaker 4: then they give you a great applause. And yeah, we
Speaker 4: really thugged it out when when we went out there.
Speaker 3: It was me and my team.
Speaker 4: You know, we didn't have the craziest budget when I went,
Speaker 4: so we put a lot of heart into that tour
Speaker 4: and like I said, I was doing it for the fans.
Speaker 4: So I can't wait to go back out there again
Speaker 4: for a bigger show.
Speaker 1: They are appreciating you in a completely different way because
Speaker 1: it's it's it's an appreciation, but it's also like when
Speaker 1: is the next time we're going to see Tink? So
Speaker 1: we have to study and download all of this in
Speaker 1: the moment. We can't miss nothing.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what it feels. It feels like they're studying you.
Speaker 4: And like I said, I know I'm unfamiliar face and
Speaker 4: some of those territories. So it was it sharpened me,
Speaker 4: like you have to keep a game face because.
Speaker 1: Coming from this, you think it's something else.
Speaker 5: I am.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 4: We are so loud and we are so aggressive what
Speaker 4: I love and like I said, when you go out there,
Speaker 4: it's a new it's a new vibe at the at
Speaker 4: the show. So you know we had to adjustin you know,
Speaker 4: you got to fight through and as a performer, I
Speaker 4: had to learn to keep my face, you know, stay excited,
Speaker 4: stay in it.
Speaker 3: So that built a lot of character.
Speaker 1: Go through your progressions, run your place, yep, no matter
Speaker 1: who out there. And yes, I just I learned that
Speaker 1: from being overseas just just watching like like what are
Speaker 1: they what are they doing? They're watching you, watching, They're
Speaker 1: paying attend. They don't want to miss any note. They
Speaker 1: don't want to miss any core change they are watching
Speaker 1: and then after they're like, oh make man, so you
Speaker 1: did like it?
Speaker 3: Okay, So y'all do fuck with me? Okay.
Speaker 1: So you moveing around the country right now on something
Speaker 1: on something crazy you.
Speaker 4: You and Arenas Yes, Oh my god, the Magic Autour,
Speaker 4: Jeneko Yes, and support of Janey.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Such a crazy show, y'all. It's me, like I say,
Speaker 3: koy Lray.
Speaker 4: Keanu, La Day and Umi and every night I get
Speaker 4: twenty five minutes to do my things.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's a it's a it's a great it's a great.
Speaker 4: Uh, like a camp of all my music. So fans,
Speaker 4: you know, like I say, I'm seeing new faces. I'm
Speaker 4: getting to see my day once. We're getting to see
Speaker 4: you know, Jane's support team, and I'm just meeting so
Speaker 4: many different people on that stage and I'm taking advantage
Speaker 4: of that moment.
Speaker 3: It's a great, great tour.
Speaker 4: You know, we got Cooy who brings that aggression, that
Speaker 4: rap vibe, and I feel like me and Janey we
Speaker 4: share a lot of fans too, with the R and B.
Speaker 4: So that's why it's special because I feel like, you know,
Speaker 4: I go back to the early you know twenty twelve
Speaker 4: days and her fans are familiar with that R and
Speaker 4: B type of music, So it's beautiful, y'all. I'm so
Speaker 4: thankful a lot of a lot of Like I say,
Speaker 4: it's hard to see women come together, and I'm just
Speaker 4: happy Jane gave me the opportunity and saw something in
Speaker 4: me to say, hey, put her on directly.
Speaker 3: You know, it's direct supporting me. That's that's the ultimat.
Speaker 1: I feel like you made the most sense, Like I
Speaker 1: think when I look at.
Speaker 3: Both of them, but there's so many girls she could have.
Speaker 4: Yeah, have this do amazing rn B, I have this.
Speaker 4: I love that hood Hitaler.
Speaker 2: It's like, don't like, I'm gonna make you this soup,
Speaker 2: but don't get it fucked up. That is that's how
Speaker 2: I feel when I listen to your music. It's like
Speaker 2: it's airy and it's flowy, but then it's.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I stabbed your ass. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that It just it to me. Y'all make perfect
Speaker 1: sense on the road together.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I can't wait topciate it.
Speaker 4: Yes please, I'm in La were at the Crypto and
Speaker 4: this is an arena at the Crypto. Lakers playing big, big,
Speaker 4: big for a young lady from Chicago.
Speaker 3: This is huge. So I'm giving I'm giving it all.
Speaker 1: I got into your rap bag. Any well, I do.
Speaker 4: Have a couple of songs. Don't tell nobody. It's on
Speaker 4: that wrap side. I out a couple of records I
Speaker 4: could really turn up, but it's the magic hour, so
Speaker 4: this is my gracious moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I plan on.
Speaker 4: I'm working on something special for my fans where I
Speaker 4: can really let and then incorporate everything. So I'm swinging.
Speaker 4: I'm swinging again next year. You know, be looking out
Speaker 4: for me.
Speaker 1: You got another project coming well.
Speaker 4: Tory, Okay, we're working on something special. I won't know when,
Speaker 4: but I am trying to make sure I serve my fans.
Speaker 4: They want to They want to tour so bad.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question. You've at this
Speaker 1: point already done so much, and from the outside looking
Speaker 1: in and just even having this conversation with you, it
Speaker 1: feels like there's still so much more to do, so much.
Speaker 1: One what is what is I'm sure there are many goals,
Speaker 1: but what's what's an ultimate go What's one you can
Speaker 1: articulate right now where you see five ten years down
Speaker 1: the line, this is this, this is what and where
Speaker 1: I will be.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you one one of my main goals, I
Speaker 4: want to run the charts. I feel like I haven't
Speaker 4: got the opportunity to really have I guess, a top
Speaker 4: tier and number one and.
Speaker 1: You need it, you need it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would just really make everything worthwhile. You know,
Speaker 4: I have so many songs that I feel like that
Speaker 4: was it, that was it. So I'm waiting on that
Speaker 4: billboard moment for me, and I want a record that
Speaker 4: stays on the charts like it's stuck there, she's she's there,
Speaker 4: it's in that top ten, even a number one. You know,
Speaker 4: I haven't really been able to just tap that chart
Speaker 4: yet the way I want to. So that's that's my
Speaker 4: next move. And it's going to take some some genius.
Speaker 4: Like it's gonna take you know what I mean, because
Speaker 4: I've been doing it so long. So I'm like, what
Speaker 4: is that key that that turns the billboard chart up?
Speaker 4: And That's where I'm at now, figuring out how to
Speaker 4: keep my keep my formula the same, but also.
Speaker 3: Tap in on that end.
Speaker 1: I always say this, it's if you're if you're working,
Speaker 1: truly working and truly building It's never a matter of if,
Speaker 1: it's only a matter of when. And so as you
Speaker 1: continue to grow and build and work, yeah, it's going
Speaker 1: to come.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: It has to.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's just like it's like magic. It's like you just
Speaker 1: you just look up one day and you're like shit,
Speaker 1: I called this out like two years ago, and you
Speaker 1: look up. But you look up from from working. You
Speaker 1: have to hould up, am I number one way now?
Speaker 3: About that? From working?
Speaker 1: From working?
Speaker 4: Yes, And that's why to just tie in with you
Speaker 4: guys said earlier, I have so much music because I
Speaker 4: cannot stop working. I don't want to stop, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. I'm looking for something. You know, I haven't.
Speaker 4: I haven't scratched that off the list yet.
Speaker 3: So be prepared.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: There may be another album next year, maybe another album December.
Speaker 3: I'm like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so crazy.
Speaker 3: He's so crazy like that.
Speaker 1: It's like when you talk that Billboard talk like I
Speaker 1: get it. I love streaming, I love I love I
Speaker 1: love all of these different mediums where our music it's
Speaker 1: played and people can hear it and absorb it. But
Speaker 1: something about that Billboard top ten just makes shit special.
Speaker 3: Thanks.
Speaker 1: I am with you my sister on this chase and
Speaker 1: this hunt to that hot one hun. R and B
Speaker 1: deserves it that part too.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing why it's good to have this
Speaker 4: conversation here, R and B. You know what I mean, honestly,
Speaker 4: what genre is better than R and B? Am I opinion,
Speaker 4: we deserve so much more.
Speaker 3: Quality R and B. So we deserve so much more.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't be penalized because you can sing good, because
Speaker 1: you look good, because you perform good. That shouldn't be
Speaker 1: a knock against you. Because everybody can't do what you do. Come,
Speaker 1: that's the point of his ship. That's why I'm here
Speaker 1: to give you something that you don't have. God gives
Speaker 1: everybody their own measure. This is mind. Yeah, wow, my
Speaker 1: mother fucking flowers, come on, come on board.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's coming though, I wholeheartedly believe it. But like
Speaker 4: I say, it's it's just a matter of time, and
Speaker 4: like you say, it's not even if it's when.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think I feel like the tink Tank
Speaker 1: moment is gonna happen. It has to feel.
Speaker 3: I'm so glad you said that.
Speaker 4: I see all the time, like our names, I saw
Speaker 4: similar people mistake it so much I'm like a record together.
Speaker 4: We could do some crazy marketing. It's just some incredible
Speaker 4: promotion behind it.
Speaker 1: Tink and Tank.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would just fuck my heart up.
Speaker 1: Man. Please your top five R and B.
Speaker 3: Singers, top five for me Beyonce, like when you started Beyonce, Rihannam.
Speaker 1: You're just gonna start keep it there, Beyonna.
Speaker 3: Mary j Blie, I love that a lot of influence.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 3: I had to say, Mary j Blis, Lauren Hill, you
Speaker 3: don't speak enough about the.
Speaker 2: Queen Unicorn Yes on BT Awards her and her son
Speaker 2: Unicorn busy.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. My fifth.
Speaker 4: If I could make Usher and Chris Brown into one,
Speaker 4: Usher Brown Chris Raymond, I have to give some credits
Speaker 4: to the fellas, uh Usher Chris Brown for my generation.
Speaker 4: I came up off Chris. That is my top five
Speaker 4: R and B. Yes, Usher Brown, that.
Speaker 3: Is that's something. Listen when you said that, Mary Jay, pioneer, pioneer, trailblazer,
Speaker 3: No no one can compare.
Speaker 1: Yes cut.
Speaker 4: All absolutely and and like I said, the Chicago and me,
Speaker 4: the hood in me. I feel Mary on so many levels.
Speaker 4: Ndred percent, you know, per her demeanor, her stage presence.
Speaker 3: You know the swagger.
Speaker 1: She means it.
Speaker 3: She means it.
Speaker 1: IM playing with you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's that's it. She puts some fear in
Speaker 4: you when you're here. I said that like I slapped
Speaker 4: the ship.
Speaker 3: Out of you.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been on the road with.
Speaker 3: Her, respectfully, respectfully Mary Queen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh it's been there for a minute. I thought
Speaker 1: it was on purpose. I thought we had a sponsorship.
Speaker 1: We had a sponsorship was going. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: we're plugging sponsorship. That's that's exciting. Sponsoring up after that
Speaker 1: check to come in. They only sponsored timberlat my nerves.
Speaker 1: You get everything first. We're ready. We're good. Okay, Tink
Speaker 1: your top five R and B song Yes you are
Speaker 1: an R and B song writer.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, top five R and B songs. Okay, this
Speaker 4: is my perspective, y'all give me grace.
Speaker 3: Kisha call. Love did something to my spirit.
Speaker 1: It does something that every spirit that hears it every
Speaker 1: time it comes on. They got a commercial.
Speaker 3: Now it's like a spiritual hair.
Speaker 2: Father and his kids in the car and singing Love
Speaker 2: comes on. I said, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Come on, R and D.
Speaker 3: Needs you bad. Jazmine Ellivant confessions us.
Speaker 1: Sure why not. Why not. You're on a row.
Speaker 3: You're on a row dangerously in love Beyonce?
Speaker 1: Yes, have you seen her do it live? No, it
Speaker 1: doesn't even make sense.
Speaker 3: No I haven't.
Speaker 2: She's cheating like it said, cheat code. It's like, how
Speaker 2: can you sing up there?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: I was at her last story identical to her tracks.
Speaker 3: Scares me to watch her perform the.
Speaker 1: Like you said earlier though rehearsal, Yes, perfecting your craft. Yes,
Speaker 1: I be having an audit, just like I'm having to
Speaker 1: go a few times so I can really audit with
Speaker 1: what's happened?
Speaker 3: What's happening?
Speaker 1: If you only go once, you're be like what the
Speaker 1: just happened?
Speaker 4: Yes, that was my experience, so in awe. Yes, so
Speaker 4: also stuck watching Beyonce and then uh class Timeless week
Speaker 4: by s w V taught me how to run, taught
Speaker 4: me riffs. I feel like I mimic them and so
Speaker 4: many of my records, you know, the breakdowns, the harmonies,
Speaker 4: the crying.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think that's a five.
Speaker 1: That's a great five. Yes, I love the s WV
Speaker 1: because Coco don't get enough credit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, talk about it.
Speaker 1: Coco is a building building block of this female R
Speaker 1: and B vocalshm. Let's do this. Let's build a vultron.
Speaker 1: You're super R and B artists, Okay, you're gonna piece
Speaker 1: them together. We want to know you can get the
Speaker 1: vocal from who you're gonna get the performance style from.
Speaker 1: Who you're gonna get the styling front, you're going to
Speaker 1: get the passion from. And since you are sid right
Speaker 1: to who's going to write for this artist, let's start
Speaker 1: with the vocal. Who's vocal you're going to get to
Speaker 1: make your super R and B artists and vocal.
Speaker 3: The vocal Whitney Euston.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I want to dance with somebody as well,
Speaker 1: with somebody who loves me. Ship that range everything it is.
Speaker 1: She is the voice, performance style on stage, what they're
Speaker 1: doing on.
Speaker 3: Stage, Beyonce, Yeah, the greatest, the greatest, that's it.
Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, the styling, the drip, that's a great one.
Speaker 3: That girl can't go wrong. Be flyes there, undeniable in
Speaker 3: her sleep on on on any level too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yes, you can catch your I fashion. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you know what you're doing. The passion of the artist,
Speaker 6: the heart of the artists, the.
Speaker 3: Heart of the artist. Mm hmm, that's deep. Okay, passion.
Speaker 1: Will make you feel something.
Speaker 3: H Yeah, yeah, I study. I study.
Speaker 1: This is why you are who you are? Yes, well studied. Yes,
Speaker 1: lost art. Who's writing for this artist?
Speaker 3: Okay, Missy Elliott it's the mixed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the ballot.
Speaker 3: She so talented.
Speaker 1: I just went to that concert. I just went to
Speaker 1: Missy's concert. Yes, I was fucked up. My whole ride home,
Speaker 1: I was fucked up.
Speaker 3: I'm like her catalog's crazy.
Speaker 1: Thirty years. She said, she was like thirty years. High level,
Speaker 1: high level.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Missy Elliott Mona Scott high hat that show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, creative genius man.
Speaker 4: Her energy too, I've seen, I've seen the videosh.
Speaker 1: I got it. I got a phone full of them.
Speaker 3: Her energy.
Speaker 1: And I'm not even that I'm not even the kind
Speaker 1: of guy to be like I want to. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I had to him, I'm like to film some of this,
Speaker 1: like this is crazy.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, mister Ellie has the writer. Yeah, miss the meaner.
Speaker 3: That's really hard.
Speaker 1: It didn't seem like yeah, now you you you cooked,
Speaker 1: you cooked, But we got something else for you. We
Speaker 1: got we got more time before we let you leave.
Speaker 1: We know, we know you got ship to do. Ain't
Speaker 1: saying no nick. I ain't saying no names. I ain't
Speaker 1: saying no name. Ain't saying no na. Who he was?
Speaker 1: What you did? Don't say she? And I ain't saying
Speaker 1: no name.
Speaker 2: Very special part of our show's card. I ain't saying
Speaker 2: no name. When you tell us a story funny or
Speaker 2: fucked up? Are funny and fucked up?
Speaker 1: You know, kind of like some of the songs you
Speaker 1: be writing.
Speaker 3: Okay, you know it's it's.
Speaker 2: Like, it's not supposed to be funny, but all you
Speaker 2: can do is laugh at some of the ship and
Speaker 2: the name of this segment, and this portion is called
Speaker 2: I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 1: With a rule to the game, she just can't say
Speaker 1: no names. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's all. That's all.
Speaker 4: And I have a lot of story in this in
Speaker 4: his mind right here. Okay, interesting story, funny story, no names.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: Interesting story about how one of my records just came together.
Speaker 4: I was in the process of making an album and
Speaker 4: at the time I was working with a few producers.
Speaker 3: No names.
Speaker 4: Okay, the time, I was working with a few people,
Speaker 4: and there was a song that we did that was
Speaker 4: literally on the cuff of blowing up and I'll never
Speaker 4: forget it because.
Speaker 3: The producer or this is really hard y'all.
Speaker 4: So the person working on the record.
Speaker 3: He invited the other person to come into the lab.
Speaker 4: And like I say, at the time, this song we
Speaker 4: were all working on was bubbling, and there was a
Speaker 4: moment when I guess paperwork wasn't right and something I've
Speaker 4: never witnessed. But these two people they ended up in
Speaker 4: the studio at the same time. Although we were working
Speaker 4: on the same project. Paperwork isn't being handled correctly. So
Speaker 4: we're all chilling in the studio working and the vibe
Speaker 4: is cool.
Speaker 3: One person walks in, jumps on the.
Speaker 4: Table behind that paperwork and demands demands that person and
Speaker 4: no names, but you know, behind paperwork a lot can
Speaker 4: go down. So I'm in the studio and I'm kind
Speaker 4: of in the middle of everything, and I'm not sure
Speaker 4: what to say because I'm just grateful to be here.
Speaker 4: But when a song is about to do what it's
Speaker 4: about to do, your paperwork gotta be right before you know,
Speaker 4: before it goes out, because there's a lot of a
Speaker 4: lot of emotion behind a dollar So something I had
Speaker 4: never witnessed before. But the person had to jump on
Speaker 4: the table to demand that they get their percentage right. Yeah,
Speaker 4: literally jumped on the table, two feet on the table.
Speaker 4: And this is a glass table next to that fresh fruit.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, This is a grand setting.
Speaker 4: It's beautiful, and to this day, I don't think that
Speaker 4: you know, they speak anymore. And that's the reason why.
Speaker 4: You know, paperwork gotta be right, make sure it's right,
Speaker 4: because you know, people really get crazy behind that dollar
Speaker 4: and that's split. So yeah, like I say, got on
Speaker 4: the table. The other person was the bigger person just
Speaker 4: walked away, and I'm so glad they did.
Speaker 3: But I never forget that.
Speaker 4: I'll never forget that moment, and I think it just
Speaker 4: taught me to have business in order. We don't leave
Speaker 4: people out. We make sure everybody get taken care of.
Speaker 4: And to this day, I keep my sheets, my split
Speaker 4: sheets on me, or I make sure my attorney is
Speaker 4: handling stuff because people will walk in and jump on
Speaker 4: your table.
Speaker 2: So my question is, did the table jumper get that percentage?
Speaker 3: The song was never clear?
Speaker 4: Wow mm hmm, that song was never still in dispute.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just unfortunate.
Speaker 4: I think the way they handled it had something to
Speaker 4: do with that, so we could have handled it better
Speaker 4: a conversation, a sit down instead of a sit down
Speaker 4: instead of a jump up. But yeah, musicians, we are
Speaker 4: sensitive about our all right, So I understand both angles.
Speaker 4: But it's a time and place for everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's why, Like we've always adopted this
Speaker 1: thing where if you're in the room, we just all
Speaker 1: chop it up because of course you don't want those
Speaker 1: type of situations, right, those uncomfortable situations. But then at
Speaker 1: the same time, the bigger conversation is, we do so
Speaker 1: many records, why are we fighting over one?
Speaker 2: But we're also choosy about the room. You have to
Speaker 2: be choosy about the room. And it's so and I'm
Speaker 2: sure you get this a lot. That's good as your
Speaker 2: you know, as your career is continuing to grow, and
Speaker 2: it's send more and more people are let's work, let's work,
Speaker 2: let's work. You can't work with everybody. You have to
Speaker 2: be choosy about who you work with because that same
Speaker 2: person that's yelling less work, let's work, less work, after
Speaker 2: something may get done, they may change their tone.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Like I gotta I gotta know you to work
Speaker 1: with you. I like to get to know people.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 1: Take me on the date, the energy, the energy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Let's get to know each other.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I like to work around people that
Speaker 4: feel like family, so we don't have to argue.
Speaker 3: I want to see you eat. You want to see
Speaker 3: me eat?
Speaker 1: Because you can hold your friends accountable as well. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: that's true. You can't. I really hope people you don't
Speaker 1: know accountable because you don't know them. Yeah, you're right,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be helping me tell my story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never want to be in the studio. And
Speaker 2: that's what the what it is somebody jumping on the
Speaker 2: table because and that person could have, like you said,
Speaker 2: you understand both sides of it. That person could have
Speaker 2: been right for jumping on that table, but even putting
Speaker 2: somebody in a position to have to do that, that's that's.
Speaker 1: Not what I'm in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's ways to communicate. Yeah, so I agree. You know,
Speaker 3: you got to work with good people and people that
Speaker 3: love you and want to see.
Speaker 1: You when you know, well, I hope they both see
Speaker 1: this and then.
Speaker 3: They let's get the money.
Speaker 1: Let's get money, get the record to the people. Come on, now,
Speaker 1: that's just that's just one more record added added to
Speaker 1: the repertoire. Because Tink wants are plaques to come on?
Speaker 1: Say that more plans?
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's a long time coming.
Speaker 1: Oh god, damn plaque on the way. Well think I think,
Speaker 1: thank yeah, yes you start app I think.
Speaker 3: You will go to it, will go to the ladies
Speaker 3: love it.
Speaker 1: You are so dope.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Now we appreciate I know for a fact you were
Speaker 1: just you were just scratching the surface. Even with all
Speaker 1: these big moments you've had to this point, you are
Speaker 1: just scratching the surface.
Speaker 3: Made me cry. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Sure of I'm sure of your billboard, I'm sure of
Speaker 1: your own headline tour and people wanting to see you
Speaker 1: do what you do from top to bottom. They want
Speaker 1: to hear all them albums.
Speaker 4: Thank you, And this will be the interview we look
Speaker 4: back on when that when that billboard hit, when that chart,
Speaker 4: when when we tried on to you know, get there.
Speaker 4: I will look back on this and I appreciate you
Speaker 4: y'all for putting this in the air, manifesting it today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely so, thank you.
Speaker 3: This moment means so much.
Speaker 1: Absolutely well. I mean, you're product of hard work and
Speaker 1: dedication and and true gift and so we support you,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you. This is not this is not a
Speaker 1: promotional stop. This is home for you. So anytime you
Speaker 1: need anything from any of us, it's We're a text away.
Speaker 1: You ain't got a call and a pull up and
Speaker 1: it's that easy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we can go to the studio are Yeah,
Speaker 3: thank you so much too.
Speaker 1: Sessions before yeah, yeah, came to listen to the music before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't gett no call, but you know what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: get a call there always get you amongst family.
Speaker 3: Thank you, you have beautiful Thank you. Thank you for
Speaker 3: welcoming me and of course like making me feel so comfortable.
Speaker 3: I really love it here.
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