1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Money ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank Valentine. Oh 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: and this is the R and B Money Podcast, the 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: authority on all things what R and B. Oh, my goodness. 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: The last part that you forgot out, the money part, 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: the independent money part. 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: Listen, man, I don't know where you're from. Yeah, you 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, shout down. I don't know where 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: you're from. I would have been through that. We've been 9 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: through them street and I'm not I'm gonna say it, 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: Shoutown's finest, y'all makes noise for taking the film. I'm listen. 11 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: I'll be listening to your music and I'll be like, Okay, 12 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 1: that's that's something I would have said, just in reverse. 13 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: It's aggressive. It is aggressive aggress And so I was 14 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: just going down the projects and I was trying to 15 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: count how many times you said the word pussy. I 16 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: was trying to count because you when I say you're 17 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: you'll break it out this pussy to put the pussy. 18 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: And I was like this. 19 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 3: So early we just started. 20 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: We told you we're different around here. This ain't no 21 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: regular you know, I mean, you you say it the 22 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: way it is, and and for me, like I'm a 23 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: very visual, you know what I mean. I'm a very 24 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: visual person. Like as soon as you start to sing 25 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: or talk, I go straight into my imagination. And if 26 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: you can visualize line by line, that's when you're a writer, 27 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: thank you. That's when you are a real songwriter. That's 28 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: the that's when you're creating an atmosphere, right Shi, It 29 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: has to happen when your music comes on. 30 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: Absolutely, my ladies, they need it. 31 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 4: You know, it's raw, it's to the point, you know, 32 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 4: you know how it gets as you say. I want 33 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 4: to say this first, I'm so honored. Literally I have 34 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 4: been listening to your music, your influence for years. So 35 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 4: whatever you see in me is literally you know, me 36 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 4: just taking from everything that I've heard from you, and 37 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 4: I'm honored to be here. 38 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: Awesome. 39 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 4: I just have to throw that I'm such a student 40 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 4: of the game and I can tell you just do 41 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 4: not know. 42 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: This means so much to me. 43 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely so we're blessed to have you because you cook it. 44 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: Because you cook it, and I think that you know 45 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: you represent I think we give, we give flowers, and 46 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: we give celebration to anybody. What I say, who can 47 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: get off that bench? You know what I'm saying and 48 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: get into the space, because it's hard enough to just 49 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: get in the game and to have some some success 50 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: regardless of your level of talent. But you, for us, 51 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: you represent a very high level of talent. You represent 52 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: where we come from, like we come from, real hard 53 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: workingction and true gift. You know what I mean, This is. 54 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: My whole soul. 55 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 4: I get so much song when I hear when I 56 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 4: hear your voice, your music, That's what I try to 57 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 4: bring to the game, to my soul. So it was like, 58 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 4: you know, you keep it robbing kind of straight to 59 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 4: the point. I agree, it has to be felt. 60 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, because your your truth resonates with with with everyone 61 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: that's within that connective fiber, you know what I mean. 62 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: You like you never you never really realize how many 63 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: people now that are just listening but are connected to 64 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: your journey. Like it it's beyond say that. 65 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my god, the journey. Yeah yeah, I've been 66 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 4: making music so long y'all, so I felt that word 67 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 4: the journey. 68 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: Get into that. When's the first time somebody said, bab 69 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: this one right here? Got it? 70 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I started making music in my basement, 71 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 4: So my journey has been for years back in twenty 72 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 4: twelve is when I got my start. So this is 73 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 4: like Chicago days when I didn't have a dime and 74 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 4: all I had was a computer and my father, he 75 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: would have recorded me in my basement. Your father, your 76 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 4: father's My father was my engineer. He recorded my first 77 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 4: two mixtapes. Yeah, shout out to my father. He really 78 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 4: really did his did his big one. My first supporter. So, 79 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 4: like I say, this is like really built into me 80 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 4: from an early age. I had to be about thirteen 81 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 4: and we started molding this, you know, this artistry in 82 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 4: the basement. He would sit at his guitar. You know, 83 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 4: I would get an hour on the weekends. He had 84 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: things to do, so you know, I had to make 85 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 4: sure I came prepared. It came with my my lyrics ready. 86 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 4: And that's why I take it so serious, y'all because 87 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 4: I've been doing this. 88 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: For a long long time. Yeah, So it's in me, 89 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: really in me. 90 00:04:55,600 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: That is that family dynamic is crazy. Pops with the 91 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: engineering and with the guitar. Was he was he in 92 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: the in the space as a professional. 93 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 4: Well, no, he was the engineer and he also played 94 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 4: He plays piano and guitar, so he would have artists 95 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 4: come through the basement and I would kind of watch 96 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 4: people record. My mom was a gospel singer, so she 97 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,119 Speaker 4: would be around the house singing all day. She also 98 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: recorded her own songs and wrote her own material. So 99 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 4: music is just like all throughout my family. My father 100 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 4: would record her and I would just watch this as 101 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 4: a baby growing up, just taking notes. 102 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: You know. 103 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 4: I would be trying to peek down the stairs, like 104 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 4: who's coming in to day? You know which y'all recording 105 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 4: what she talking about. But that's how I got my start, 106 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 4: just watching, and I asked my father one day, can 107 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 4: you record me or show me how to you know, 108 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 4: show me. 109 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: How to record music? 110 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 4: And he gave me, you know, my first my first 111 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 4: couple of records, and I took it from there. 112 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: That's crazy. So Pops was doing the tracks. Well. 113 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 3: I would find my beasts on YouTube, y'all. 114 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 4: This is like early so I would find, like, you know, 115 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 4: found my beats wherever I could, and my father would 116 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 4: engineer me and then he would kind of help me 117 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 4: mix it down and add pieces guitar here and there. 118 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 4: So my biggest record is like treat me like somebody. 119 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 4: We recorded that in the basement. He had gave me 120 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 4: two hours. You know, it was just a Saturday, and 121 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: you know, like I say, he had a job, so 122 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 4: he couldn't he couldn't record all day. I had two 123 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 4: hours to come in and do what I had to do. 124 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 4: And that's probably one of my biggest records to date. 125 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 4: So I owe my father so much credit, so much credit. 126 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: And it's dope because it gave you, in a sense, 127 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: early studio etiquette understanding, like when. 128 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: I come here, I'm here to work. 129 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 3: That's what I mean. 130 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 4: It's it's very serious for me, like I didn't have 131 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 4: time to play or you know, I had like maybe 132 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 4: one loop to do the song and then we would 133 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 4: go and do another loop of ad libs. 134 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: It wasn't like you can you know kind of. 135 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: And then none of that exactly. 136 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,039 Speaker 3: It was a one take thing. I didn't have a 137 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: the time. He didn't have a lot of time. 138 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 4: So yeah, you know that really just trained me to 139 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 4: go in and have you have your music rehearsed. I 140 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 4: was practicing before I went in that basement, and you. 141 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: Know what, that's that's lost. Practicing before you go in 142 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: the studio. That's lost because I used to do that, 143 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: Like if I would was writing songs or whatever before 144 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: I actually because I would write it in my basement, make 145 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: the tracks and do all the stuff, and I'd be 146 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: singing it and figuring, and I'd figure out my my 147 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: vibe and my mode where I wanted to land. And 148 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: by the time I got to the studio on them 149 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: a dat's you knew what you want to do. I'm 150 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: recording four or five songs a day because I already 151 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm already rehearsed. But that also that's also a different 152 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: level of gift, right because you know a lot of 153 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: times artists need songs, you know what I mean, and 154 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: so the creative process for them may not happen until 155 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: they get there, right. But for those that get the 156 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: song beforehand, of like this is a smash, I need 157 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: this record, that's the time you start building on that 158 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: record and start writing on the on the on the lyrics. Okay, 159 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: this is where I'm gonna go here, I'm okay, I 160 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: want to feel like this on. 161 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 4: That Like I love that I still write on paper, 162 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 4: I still make my notes and you know you'll see 163 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 4: a scratch sheet with me arrow up. That means you 164 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: need to be a little stronger. I rolled down gets solved. 165 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 4: I still do that to this day. So that's crazy 166 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 4: you mentioned that. 167 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like. 168 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, because like Chicago is Chicago's Chicago, Chicago's music, Chicago 169 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: is music, but Chicago also has this this this undercurrent 170 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: of of foolishness that you can dip into easily. Was 171 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: it was it your pops in the family that kept 172 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: you from being part of that because those things kind 173 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: of go hand in hand town mixed in. 174 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 3: With the streets. 175 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 4: I feel like it was a point in Chicago where 176 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 4: I felt like I had to be visible. And you 177 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 4: gotta remember, drill drill rap was a heavy part of music. 178 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 4: So I did take a couple of years where I 179 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: was like, you know, I also want to mess with 180 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 4: the rap and I can get I see, I can 181 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 4: get some fans if I put a little aggression behind 182 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 4: my music. So you know, it was a It was 183 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 4: a couple of years where you know, I shot away 184 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 4: from the R and B and I was rapping. 185 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 3: So a lot of people don't know that too. I 186 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 3: used to really I used. 187 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 4: To really rap, like drill rap, like very very much 188 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 4: hard rap, and but for me, that was just me 189 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 4: riding a wave and I knew that people wanted to 190 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 4: hear it. So that's why I say I'm so, I'm 191 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 4: so kind of like multi talented. I can also, you know, 192 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 4: we can draw bars if we want to. I can sing, 193 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 4: I can I can get hard if. 194 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 3: We need to. 195 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 4: So, yeah, I feel like Chicago got a lot of 196 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 4: influence on my music. I try to keep the lingo 197 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 4: in there. I make sure like I don't want to 198 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 4: sound too polished. I don't want to sound too I 199 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 4: never wanted to get to a point where the streets 200 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 4: don't feel me. So for that reason, my R and 201 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 4: B still feels tough, and I still keep the same 202 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 4: lingo in the. 203 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 3: R and B. 204 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: It's relatable. 205 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: I'm blending it. 206 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're a rapper as well, don't start this. Yeah, 207 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: he was a terrible rapper. You were you, I would 208 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: say I wasn't a terrible rapper. I wasn't a terrible rapper. Okay, 209 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this is a reoccurring theme that always 210 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: happens because he tries to discredit me. I had a 211 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: rap called Rated R that was killing the hood. He 212 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: didn't get out of the church until he was twenty seven. 213 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: I was rapping while on all the. 214 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 3: Church church, Yeah, half past. 215 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know the Turks over here, you know what 216 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Hey, no, my Midwest. I was in Milwaukee rapping. 217 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 3: I get it. 218 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: I used to compete against like you know, Vice Lawds 219 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: and the Gangster Disciples and all of them, and they 220 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: beat this kid coming up rapping against them. It didn't 221 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: go far. But while I was young, I had the gift. 222 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: I didn't even you know what you had was way 223 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: before Jay z Oh, when do you feel like? When 224 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: do you feel like there was a breakout moment for 225 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: you where even though you know you have the gift, 226 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: even though you know you have the work ethic, there's 227 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: this defining moment that lets you know that you can 228 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: do this on the level where you hear the people 229 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: on the radio, the concerts you go to, like, there's 230 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: a moment that specifically speaks to you. 231 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 4: For me, when I met Timbaland in twenty fifteen, I 232 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 4: felt like that was a breakthrough. 233 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 3: Coming from the streets to Chicago. 234 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 4: That was a big deal and it also gave me 235 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 4: the platform. You know, our situation it worked out the 236 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 4: way it worked out, but I did take I did 237 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 4: gain a lot of attention and fans so I'm grateful 238 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 4: for that. We had a record call million, and I 239 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 4: also just was able to go to different pace pla. 240 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 3: I was on a breakfast club rapping. 241 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,599 Speaker 4: I had wrapped over a record with Jay Z and 242 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 4: Rick Ross, so that kind of had like a New 243 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 4: York in a in a big frenzy, and I just 244 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 4: called a lot of attention off of those baby steps 245 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 4: with Tim. So I think I had a fan base, 246 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 4: but the world didn't really understand who I was. So 247 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 4: when I met Tim, that gave me kind of a 248 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 4: what would you call it commercial commercial attention? 249 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so that was a big deal for me. 250 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 4: I still thank him just for you know, giving me 251 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 4: the promotion, and you know, I took what I could 252 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 4: from that situation, but that helped me elevate so that 253 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: I could shake hands with different producers. I got around him, 254 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 4: and I was kind of able to see how, you know, 255 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 4: the studio worked in these big corporate labels. So all 256 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 4: my relationships, I just started making sure that I was, 257 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 4: you know, keeping good graces with everybody I've met. 258 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then so you say Timberland, who is my 259 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: favorite producer. 260 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 4: Of course, of course legendary all times. So grateful that 261 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 4: we got to make anything. You know, to be in 262 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 4: a room with him, it's amazing. 263 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: So, yeah, he's he's one of those guys. Like when 264 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out how to produce, I 265 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: would recreate all of his beats from Aliyah to Genuine 266 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: to Missy. I would get on this keyboard that only 267 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: had nine tracks and try and figure out how Timberland 268 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: was doing what he was doing. 269 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: It's crazy. You know. 270 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: He's one of the people who changed the sound of 271 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: music a few times. 272 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, he changed the sound of. 273 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 4: Music exactly, and that's what I appreciate With Tim. We 274 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 4: definitely had a sound, and that made me branch out 275 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 4: instead of focusing on drill. I was kind of like 276 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 4: molding my sound and working on different type of different 277 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 4: production and beats. So I do feel like that gave 278 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 4: me a broader image of music and brought me out 279 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 4: of the slums, you know what I mean, because I was, really, 280 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 4: like I say, he found me. I was in Chicago 281 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 4: still kind of like rapping and going into studio sessions 282 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 4: in the hood, and so it was just a different 283 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 4: vibration with Timberland, and it elevated me. 284 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: So did you go to did you go to Miami. 285 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, we were working at because that's a whole other 286 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,599 Speaker 4: world because, like you say, in the hood, going to 287 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 4: hood studios, I know what that with the Timberland Miami 288 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 4: studio sessions and that whole vibe is, that's a whole 289 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 4: completely different world. 290 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: Completely different world. 291 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 4: Like I said, the studios and walking in and having 292 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 4: fresh fruit, walking in and having fresh fruit and having 293 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 4: a runner that can bring you tea, and you know, 294 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 4: just having time to really master the song. All of 295 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 4: that was so different to me. I was, like I say, 296 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 4: working in bedroom studios. So when I met him, everything 297 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 4: was just ten times more grand, and it made me 298 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 4: kind of step my game up because I'm like, I'm 299 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 4: in this room. I got to make sure that I'm 300 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 4: presenting the music right, I gotta kind to go crazy. 301 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 4: So yeah, absolutely it was. The studio was different. The 302 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 4: people he had coming in the studio. You know, I 303 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: met so many artists or so many producers, people that 304 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 4: would just come in and listen to to Timberland and 305 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 4: our work. So that's why I say, I was really 306 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 4: just making relationships with everybody, and that helped so much. 307 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 4: I was even able to get in a studio with 308 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 4: Rihanna by you know, being under timblandce Wing. So that 309 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 4: was just a blessing, y'all. Like I'm coming from Chicago. 310 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 4: You gotta remember, this is like the dirty Hood. And 311 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 4: he saw something in me that nobody else saw at 312 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 4: the time. So I owe a lot of credit to 313 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 4: Tim just for bringing me, bringing me up with him. 314 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 4: You know, even if I we never dropped the album, 315 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 4: he gave me so much inspiration. 316 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: I think that that introduction and validation was all I 317 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: needed to hear. 318 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. 319 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: I didn't even need to hear you do anything. 320 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 321 00:15:58,920 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: Okay. 322 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Tim, like I said, he was my biggest 323 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 4: my biggest you know, he was my biggest supporter. He 324 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 4: was going on he was on the radios, yes, and 325 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 4: he would just say whatever came to mind. And I 326 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 4: appreciate that. 327 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 3: Though. You need people in your corner that are ten 328 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: toes down. 329 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: So I'm sorry question for you. 330 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you come from that or you go to 331 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: that from where you come from, and then it don't 332 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: work out maybe how it was planned to. I feel 333 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: like you are an artist that should be or that 334 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: even should be, an artist that is inspiring to all 335 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: of the artists coming up because you're you didn't just 336 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: have this this career that just went like this here, 337 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you're still going and 338 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: how how life really works, and that you're the story 339 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: that they don't always tell. They always talk about like oh, yeah, 340 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: you heard that record with her right now, and she 341 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: on tour with such and. 342 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: Such like No, it's the whole thing to go to. 343 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 2: These things have to connect and you have to not 344 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: give up. So my question to you is when that 345 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 2: doesn't go maybe the way that it was planned for you, 346 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 2: how does what is your mindset at that point when 347 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, I had this record deal, I'm with, 348 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: you know, one of the greatest producers of all time, 349 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: and now I'm back by myself with it. 350 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 351 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 5: It was. 352 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 3: It was extremely hard. I was. 353 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 4: I took a season and I had to kind of 354 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 4: distance myself from music altogether. 355 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 3: I took a year away. 356 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 4: Literally, I didn't post, I was kind of I turned 357 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 4: into a ghost on social media. But I had to. 358 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 4: I had to go and find myself as an artist. 359 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 4: That was the season for me to rebrand. And I 360 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 4: think a lot of the greatest artists we have seasons 361 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 4: they have seasons where they come back as somebody different, 362 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 4: and I had to kind of, I guess, you know. 363 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 3: Become tink, you know what I mean. 364 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 4: Like I was young, like I said, I was maybe twenty, 365 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 4: and at that time, I didn't have a chance to 366 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 4: really grow the fuck up. And so that year I 367 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 4: took time to, like I say, get my business in order, 368 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 4: rework my team. I had to find new management, find 369 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 4: a new attorney. I went back into my paperwork and 370 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 4: just really focused on. 371 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 3: What was right for me. 372 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 4: Like I say, when I signed, I was so young, 373 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 4: I was moving fast, so I just had to tighten up. 374 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 4: And I think that's as an artist, every year were 375 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 4: supposed to tighten up, and it's nothing wrong with taking 376 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 4: some time to you know, rework your vision. So for me, 377 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 4: I really needed that. I needed to sit down. I 378 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 4: needed to think about what I wanted to present to 379 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 4: the world. And it just gave me that push, you 380 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like when you know you got 381 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 4: something and it's like, okay, I'm trying it this way. 382 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 4: If that doesn't work, I got to find a way 383 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 4: that I can get through this door. So that gave 384 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 4: me that push, that that motivation y'all, Like, you know, 385 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 4: the game really got me messed up. I'm about to 386 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 4: do something. I have to find a way, and you 387 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 4: took a person. 388 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 3: I took it personal. I really I really did. And 389 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 3: like I say, I had to come hard and that's. 390 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 4: When I got in my independent bag and my music 391 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 4: became more authentic. 392 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: And I wasn't trying to please the studio. It was 393 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 3: for me, you know. 394 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: And who went on your way back? Who was the who? 395 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,719 Speaker 1: What was the call? What was the like, you know, 396 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: oh we're fucking with this, we need to lock in 397 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: with you. 398 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 3: Honestly, it wasn't a call. 399 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 4: It took years and to rebuild, you know what I 400 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 4: was what I was trying to do, and I honestly 401 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 4: owe it to my Day one fans. You know, I 402 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 4: had to kind of go back and, like I say, 403 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 4: reinvent and start at ground zero. And I wasn't a 404 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 4: afraid of that. You know, I was mocked, I was 405 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 4: laughed at and a lot of people, you know, I 406 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 4: thought it was over for me, but I knew I 407 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 4: had a cult fan base and as long as I 408 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 4: could reach my fans on social media and I could 409 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 4: tell them, hey, I have something to drop I'm gonna 410 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 4: be okay. So again, I did many tours, bars and clubs. 411 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 4: I was like performing for a crowd of hundreds at first. 412 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 4: You know, Mickey Man may know them days too, where 413 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 4: we were just kind of hustling on the street. You know. 414 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 4: I went back to the street, the street method, and 415 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 4: for me, it was just dropping consistently, consistently. Every year, 416 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 4: every six months, I was putting out an album or 417 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 4: an EP, and even if it every six months, I 418 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 4: had to just to kind of make up for that 419 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 4: time and you know, re re enter the game. So 420 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 4: it's just consistent work. I had to double up. 421 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: How many projects do you know? 422 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 4: Oh my god, y'all I have at least, it's really crazy, 423 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 4: I have at least I want to stay between ten 424 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 4: to fifteen projects in total. 425 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 3: Wow, fourteen in total over the last decade so since. 426 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 4: I want to say in twenty fifteen, I had mixedtapes 427 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 4: before I met Tim, had a lot. 428 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's a lot. I put out a lot 429 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 3: of material. 430 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 4: I don't have the luxury of sitting back and I 431 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 4: don't have the you know, I'm not at the level 432 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 4: where I can relax, So for me, I have to 433 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 4: be consistent. You know, as much music is dropping, y'all, 434 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 4: music drops, so every. 435 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: Day, Yeah, you don't let them forget. 436 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 4: I can't let them forget. I don't have that luxury. 437 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 4: And also though, just to just to mention, I love 438 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 4: making music. 439 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 3: I would do that. I would do it regardless. 440 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: What is your first hit moment? I won't say hit record, 441 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: what what song creates that hit moment for you? 442 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 4: For me, it was I had two records and I 443 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 4: didn't know that they were hits until later. But there's 444 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 4: a record called Treat Me Like Somebody R and B 445 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 4: record nothing but Me and a guitar, And there's also 446 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 4: a record called Don't Tell Nobody feature in Jeremiah. And 447 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 4: at the moment, y'all, we didn't have a budget. I 448 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 4: didn't put any money into these records. I didn't have 449 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 4: a crazy video behind them. Don't Tell Nobody doesn't have 450 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 4: any of your visual at all. But that's what I 451 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 4: mean when I'm like, we didn't really know what we 452 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 4: were working with. It took years for me to understand 453 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 4: how big these records were, Like I'm just out figuring 454 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 4: out that, you know, those were the two people. 455 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 3: Absolutely, yes, thank you, literally treat me like somebody. 456 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 4: It's my it's my biggest song to perform, and it's 457 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 4: shocking because it's over ten years old and I'm so 458 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 4: tired of performing it. 459 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: But don't you do this? Don't you do it? 460 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 4: Sometimes I'm like, oh my god, we gotta do treat 461 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 4: me like somebody, And they're like, they want to hear 462 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 4: that one. 463 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 3: You can do a new one, but you gotta do 464 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 3: that way. 465 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: So maybe I deserve will always be always like those 466 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: They're just defining records. They are records that make you 467 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: you right and connect that cult following to you. You 468 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: you cannot deny the cult. They will come after exactly. 469 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: They get upset, but that perform such and such right, 470 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: we've been. We went through that with uh funow with me, 471 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: I'll fuck with me for sure, definitely with me. I'm 472 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: just saying the idea that we didn't know the streets. 473 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: The streets had picked that record up and ran with. 474 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: Never a single, never Anye. It just came on, like 475 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: you said, no visual, no video, nothing. 476 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: It came on during the show one day and people 477 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: just got up and started screaming. I was looking around, 478 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: like somebody walk out and niggas started screaming. I started 479 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: singing the song. I was saying, well, let me put 480 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: this body roll in this see we own. It's the 481 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: people will. The people will let you know. You know 482 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: what I mean. And the great part is that you're 483 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: you're out here. You're out here on this prideless venture, 484 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: hitting whatever spot you gotta hit list. It's gotta be that. 485 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 3: No ego with me. I don't. 486 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 4: I don't look at the game like you know, I'm 487 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 4: too good for anything because I've seen I've seen how 488 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 4: we can come up. And I've seen the lows too, 489 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 4: So I appreciate the small venues. I appreciate the theaters. 490 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 4: I appreciate when I have to do a host thing, 491 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 4: you know, like I say, a season when nobody was 492 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 4: calling and I couldn't get an opportunity to perform. So 493 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 4: I'm taking every I'm taking everything that comes my way 494 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 4: because I'm so grateful. 495 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 2: I've seen it with my own eyes. I got a 496 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 2: call from my brother. He said, you need to come 497 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: to Chicago. You gotta see it, Mike, all right, is 498 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 2: my brother. 499 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 3: Nobody comes to Chicago. Let me say that people I saw. 500 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: I had no other reason to be there. 501 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 2: My reason for being in Chicago was for you because 502 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: of the phone call. 503 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate that I look out for me. 504 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 2: I get the phone call from Mickey and I'm like, 505 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: all right, I'm on my way. 506 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: I love y'all food. Let's start there and Tank and tell. 507 00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: You forget, no, no, no on that food. 508 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 2: Chicago's food is amazing. And Tank will tell you that 509 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: when they asked, like is Jay coming, and I'd be like, 510 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 2: how's the food there? I go to the places where 511 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 2: the food is good. 512 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: That's how they will get out in the street and 513 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: walk around and uber around, walking around looking for food. 514 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: I can't do it no more because of this damn podcast. 515 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: And now they'd be like, I'm just trying to grab 516 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: you some of this U what is it called Luminati's pizza? 517 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: Y'all got out here and I'm trying to go to 518 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: these steakhouses. I'm just trying to chill. 519 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 2: But so I get to Chicago and I don't really 520 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: like I had heard of you. I'd heard of you, 521 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 2: and i'd heard a couple of songs. And the other 522 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 2: person that used to always scream your name to me 523 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: was Coshion, always screaming your. 524 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 3: Names right, and gave me one of my biggest. 525 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: Records, always screaming your name right. So I'm like, okay, 526 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 2: these these are my brothers. They they are vouching. I 527 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: am going to Chicago and I'm like, Mack, Where's where's 528 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 2: the show? 529 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: He's like, Chicago Theater. I'm like, Chicago Theater. I've been 530 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: to Chicago Theater. That's thirty five hundred, one of the 531 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: biggest theaters. I know what that venue. 532 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 2: Isn't Okay, So she's doing three three thousand plus seats. 533 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: Let's see what it's about to be because I don't. 534 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: I don't fully know yet. When I get there, it 535 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: is packed all the way to the concession. 536 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: Stand and I'm like, Mickey, what the fuck? He's like 537 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: here like Broski, I told you they love her. 538 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 3: Thank you. 539 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: When you got on that stage after and this is 540 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 2: the other thing I loved about. You know what y'all 541 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: all had set up. You got the glam on side 542 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: of the stage. They getting you right before. I'm like, Okay, 543 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 2: this ain't just in the in the dressing room. You're 544 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 2: gonna go right here. They doing this, they you changing outfits. 545 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh ship, no major label. 546 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 3: Oh yes, let's let's talk about that. Independent independence. 547 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 4: This is all independent off the strength of a maybe 548 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 4: four person team. 549 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 3: You know, you know. 550 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: What y'all doing is incredible. You called me right after you. 551 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: I called I said, a tank. What I just saw there? 552 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: I said? She cracking up, cracking, I appreciate this is year. 553 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: This is a good one. How many years back? Is 554 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: this for sure? Yeah? Yeah? When he said Chicago Theater, 555 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: I was like, not Chicagoo. 556 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: I called Tank and I called Ghazi because that's my brother, 557 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: and I knew that. You know, you guys have been 558 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: doing you know, your projects with him. 559 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 4: And I'm like, and I'm I'm glad you're talking about 560 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 4: this because I'm very humble, so I don't really like 561 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 4: put things in people's face. 562 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: It was packed out three thousands, but I appreciate that 563 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 3: because y'all it's not easy to get on stage in 564 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 3: front of you know, thousands, or even just to sell 565 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 3: one hundred tickets. It's not easy for any of us artists. 566 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 3: And like you said, the. 567 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 4: Hard tickets come on. But seriously, I'm putting a lot 568 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,239 Speaker 4: into my shows now. I'm not I'm not trying to 569 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 4: be an artist that's here today, gone tomorrow. I want 570 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 4: people to come back to see me and I want 571 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 4: my tours to be memorable, and I think that's also 572 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 4: lost in this game too. Like as as an R 573 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 4: and B artist, I'm really dancing and I'm really using 574 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 4: live vocals and we're working the tracks to make it, 575 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 4: you know, to make things sound huge, and everything is 576 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 4: done off the muscle. 577 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 3: I don't have a major label. 578 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 4: I'm signed under to myself as an independent artist. I'm 579 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 4: signed to myself as an independent artist like MEA Records. 580 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 4: So I don't have a major major. Winter's Diary Records. 581 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 4: It's a partnership with the Empire, but my company is 582 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 4: when it's Diary, So all of my music comes through 583 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 4: w D Records. So and I've never said that I'm 584 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 4: not I'm not here to like put in people's faces. 585 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: But today today let me. 586 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 3: Okay. 587 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 4: So yeah, everything is backed by me independent, you know 588 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 4: what I mean? And that just says I want people 589 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 4: to know, like I'm what am I trying to say? Yeah, 590 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 4: I just want people to know this is not an 591 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 4: easy thing. So the support means a lot. You know, 592 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 4: I'm a black female. That that's another you know, just 593 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 4: another fight and if you know, you know, so yeah, 594 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 4: everything and everything that's on the way. It's really I'm 595 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 4: really fighting for it, and it's deserved. So I just 596 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 4: want to say that, you know, I appreciate that support. 597 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: It's not You've got our full support. 598 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I had to. I had no choice. 599 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 4: And that's that's why I say that year that I 600 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 4: took away it built me. 601 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 602 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 4: I've been fucked up and I've had a year when 603 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 4: nobody wanted to call me to put on a show. 604 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 4: So when I get on that stage, I'm making sure 605 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 4: my dancer is already and I making sure we are 606 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 4: rehearsing weeks in advance, you know what I mean. I'm 607 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 4: not just here for a moment. I want this to 608 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 4: be a lifelong thing. 609 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 2: I remember running up on you because I am known 610 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 2: for that. Yeah, because if I if I I'm just 611 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 2: one of those type of people. If I fuck with you, 612 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you'll fuck with you at the Grammy party. 613 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: At the Empire Grammy Party. 614 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, when are you coming on this podcast? 615 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 3: Thank you? That's what I mean. I've been ready. 616 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 4: I've been waiting to see y'all for a long time, 617 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 4: and I think the timing now is so much better, y'all. 618 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 4: I was. 619 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 3: I was in a crazy space. 620 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 4: You know, the past couple of years have been a 621 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 4: roller coaster, and I'm finally able to tell my story 622 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 4: myself and I feel confident talking to y'all in I 623 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 4: feel at ease, you know what I mean. 624 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 3: And I also just had to put in some more work. 625 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 4: I'm I'm so honored, Like I say, like, you know, 626 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 4: I don't think y'all understand how legendary y'all lied to me. 627 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 4: And even you know Tank, when we were speaking, you know, 628 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 4: you had mentioned like you were going on tour, and 629 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 4: I lost my mind about that. I was like, you know, 630 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 4: did Tank just mention a tour? So I'm just grateful 631 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 4: y'all in that moment, you know, I was ready. I 632 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 4: told make like, we have to get this done. But 633 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 4: the timing is perfect. 634 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 635 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Now listen, we were willing, we were willing to 636 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 2: to wait until you are ready. Absolutely, because that's that's 637 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 2: the other thing about us. Yeah, you know, for artists, 638 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 2: because he don't do as much as I do. But 639 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 2: like I see, and it's gonna make it even crazier 640 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 2: my in my comments, but I see the artists that 641 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 2: they ask for so when I see them, and I 642 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 2: appreciate what people do. If I see you in person, 643 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to hey, yeah, we're ready when you are. 644 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 2: But it's not like it's a if you don't come 645 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 2: in the next no, no, no, Our invitations are open invitation. 646 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 2: That's why we that's. 647 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: Why we did this. 648 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 2: Yes, we started this a genuine place that we just 649 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 2: really care about other artists and showcasing their their gifts 650 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 2: and talking about their journey. 651 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 3: And I'm thankful for that. 652 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 4: I do meet a lot of people like you know, 653 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 4: if something, if something doesn't fall through, it's like in 654 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 4: this industry is cutthroat, it's fuck you. 655 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 3: Was the love there for real? Y'all? Or you know? 656 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 3: So I appreciate this. That says so much. 657 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 4: You know, like I say, I've seen a lot of 658 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 4: people come and go in my life in this industry, 659 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 4: and you know, to have people that are in your corner, 660 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 4: I don't take that for granted. 661 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 3: Serious. 662 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: Let's talk about this Winter's Diary. Talk about it. Come on, because. 663 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 2: Now I didn't know that the label was named Winter's Diy. 664 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: I know about the you know the valumes. 665 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 4: Yes, it's so many layers. Yes, this is number five, 666 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 4: This this has been a long journey. Since twenty twelve, 667 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 4: I've been dropping w D you know, Winter's Diary mixtapes, 668 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 4: So that's what makes this specialists the album and some 669 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 4: of my biggest songs were from my mixtape era. Yeah, 670 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 4: so the fans are kind of attached to Winter's Diary, 671 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 4: and you know, I'm really telling my life in these records, 672 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 4: and that's why it's so personal and hard for me 673 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 4: to even you know, speak on because the songs ain't pretty, 674 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, My story ain't pretty, and 675 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 4: it takes a lot for me to get vulnerable and 676 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 4: and talk about the ship that I'm dealing with. So 677 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 4: that's why this album being a you know, a Winner's 678 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 4: Diary and an album, it's just a lot of growth. 679 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 4: And it takes a lot of good to release this 680 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 4: and promoted and you know, have to read the comments. 681 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: And yes, yes, well I'm I'm a lot older and 682 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: I went through you know, it's your current, as they 683 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: say in my threading, you know that's how I feel, 684 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, and I remember when social media first kind 685 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: of broke out, you know what I'm saying, And and 686 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: you know, of course our art is personal for us. 687 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and people being in the comments, 688 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, saying whatever they want to say, making up 689 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: whatever they want to make up, you know, in the 690 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: name of having an opinion. I didn't like that ship, 691 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: and I would get a phone call from about every morning, like, 692 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: what the fuck are you doing? These motherfuckers can't do 693 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: this to me. Be playing basketball, he's shop program. He 694 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: really mad about probably a fifteen year old bro. I 695 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,439 Speaker 1: just want to just fucking with me. But it took 696 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 1: me so long to realize that those people and those 697 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: comments don't even fucking matter, you know it in doing 698 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: business right, in doing business, no one has ever asked 699 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: the brand is never asked what type of comments are 700 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: you getting? What type of interaction are you getting? They've 701 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: only asked how much you're getting. They just want they 702 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: just want to see the number. Kid a fuck what 703 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: they're saying. So I'm like, oh, I needed that one. 704 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: So as long as they talking, I'm good. Yeah, y'all 705 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 1: could say whatever the fuck y'all want to say, talk 706 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: on And I'm asking you, like, because those comments can 707 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: be they can they can be they can. 708 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 4: Be hurtful, they can be a lot absolutely social media, 709 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 4: I've never never expressed this, but it gives me anxiety 710 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 4: and this day. When when it first came out, I 711 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 4: felt like it was a fun place and I felt like. 712 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 3: It was easier for me to jump on. 713 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 4: But now you know, I'm kind of I'm kind of 714 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 4: I'm on it when I'm on it, and then I 715 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 4: step away. You know, I'm not even looking through the 716 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 4: comments anymore because it's what you say. 717 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 3: You know, it's not. 718 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 4: All love out here, and a lot of times people 719 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,240 Speaker 4: are just home and board, and you know, I can't. 720 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 4: I can't feed into it because it'll affect my spirit. So, 721 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 4: like I said, I post what I gotta post. 722 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 3: I talk to my. 723 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 4: Fans, the positive ones, and you know, I keep it moving. 724 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 4: I try not to dwell. I'm not in the blogs 725 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 4: in their comments. You know, if there's something big that happens, 726 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 4: I'll ask my manager and my team, you know, let 727 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 4: me know what you know, what's going on, what they're saying. 728 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 4: But social media is a toxic place, so you have 729 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 4: to use it for your for the good, and you know, 730 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 4: if you get wrapped into it. I notice a lot 731 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 4: of artists we can crash out behind social media, and 732 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 4: I've had my days where you know, I've had my days, 733 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 4: so I have to really balance it and find a 734 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 4: happy medium. And you know, some days I'm not even 735 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 4: on Twitter right now because I don't want to put 736 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 4: negative energy out in you know, sometimes it'll be an 737 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 4: outlet for me just to talk shit, and I'm like, 738 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 4: you know, I don't want this to be my my 739 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 4: you know, my story, like when people check my Twitter 740 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 4: negative thoughts exactly. So I take my time and my 741 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 4: breaks because I don't want that ship to consume me. 742 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 4: And that's not all all that I am. And I 743 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 4: think it's helped me, you know. So it's a little 744 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 4: mystique mystery. Mystery is really nice. So I show what 745 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 4: I want to show. And yeah, you know, you have 746 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 4: to be careful out on social media. 747 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: And I think that you know that the lesson for 748 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: most artists is create the thing. Give them the thing 749 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: that you want them to see, yes, the thing that 750 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: they should have an opinion about, the thing that they 751 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,760 Speaker 1: should make a decision about. You can make a decision 752 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: about this all day, you can like or love this 753 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 1: all day, but I'm not going to give you the 754 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 1: thing that It's precious to me for you to make 755 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: a DICIPLEM you'll get none of that. I won't even 756 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: know it exists. I know that he was, You're not. 757 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: You're not supposed to know because this is mine, right, 758 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,760 Speaker 1: this did I give you. You have to keep something 759 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: for yourself. I got to keep something. You just got 760 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: to keep something for yourself. So all of these fourteen projects. 761 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,800 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, Yes, it is crazy. 762 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: I know this is going to be a hard question. 763 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: But what's your favorite one? 764 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 3: Okay, my favorite? 765 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 4: My favorite album it's called Hopeless Romantic and I dropped 766 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 4: that maybe about three years ago, four years ago. But 767 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 4: I feel like that, to me, was an album that 768 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 4: I wrote entirely, so maybe that has something to do 769 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 4: with it. 770 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 3: It was it was all. It was all on me 771 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 3: on that way. 772 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 4: But you know what I mean, The songs really resonate 773 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 4: in my soul. So and that was my first album 774 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 4: to have like a gold or platinum record. So I 775 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 4: saw I saw it pay y'all. So that gave me, 776 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 4: you know, some some real motivation. 777 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: Money too, real money too. Yes, Yes, plaque talk. 778 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 4: Yes, when I walked in y'all, I've seen at least 779 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 4: fifty plaques on the wall, and yeah, that did it 780 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 4: for me. 781 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 3: Big Tank. Yeah, I've seen it. 782 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 4: I'm gonna get my I'm gonna give my plex up, y'all. 783 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 4: But yeah, that album. 784 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,280 Speaker 1: Give me a song from that album, I have a record. 785 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 3: Called cut It Out. It was a turning point for me. 786 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 4: I felt like I was I was quiet until I 787 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 4: dropped Hopeless Romantic, and people really they just ate that 788 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 4: album up. And I had so many songs on there 789 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 4: that that were really like, you know, just going crazy, 790 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 4: so cut it out. There's also a record that came 791 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,240 Speaker 4: after that album called Bottom Bottom Bitch. But I feel 792 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 4: like that album gave me my LIGs, you know what 793 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 4: I mean. And once I dropped Hopeless Romantic, the calls 794 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 4: were coming there and the shows were picking up, and 795 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 4: I was able to tour from those records, and it 796 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,479 Speaker 4: just kind of put me back in my bag. 797 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: I was about to ask that was Hopeless Romantic, like 798 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: you at your most authentic, like you and for the 799 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: first time, like you know what, Yes, I'm gonna live 800 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: and die with me, this is me exactly. Yeah. 801 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,280 Speaker 4: I had no fear on that album and nobody, nobody 802 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 4: was there to tell me, you know, do it this way, 803 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 4: do it that way. So it was a lot of freedom, 804 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 4: and I like freedom. I feel like my songs really 805 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 4: register when I'm able to say what I want. 806 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 3: So yeah, you've been. 807 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: You've been saying what you want. 808 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 3: Absolutely yeah, yeah, talking about listen, I mean your record 809 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 3: now is you know, songs about you? 810 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Like it's very direct, you 811 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 1: know what I mean. 812 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 2: And I think even just even in collaboration with you 813 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,879 Speaker 2: in summer, you know what I mean. 814 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like people have been waiting. 815 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 4: On that yes for a long time, and I'm so 816 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 4: happy we finally have it. And it's good because a 817 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 4: lot of people I see online they like to compare, 818 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 4: you know, who do you love more? And oh it 819 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 4: just it just makes me feel So it gets me 820 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 4: so angry when I read that because I'm a fan 821 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 4: of her. And and if you go back, you'll leave 822 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 4: and see someone Walker singing treat me like somebody. You know, 823 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 4: she did like a cover of you know My my 824 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 4: old records. So there's a lot of love and the 825 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 4: fans can really fuck you know, a bond up, a 826 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 4: relationship up, and you know, and that's why I say, 827 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 4: us doing this song just really made a statement out 828 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 4: here for the girls, like you know, I ain't mad 829 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 4: at summer, don't you know. Don't try to pit us 830 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 4: against each other. Two black women making music and R 831 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 4: and B. You know, we together and I support her, 832 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 4: and you know, likewise, I feel like. 833 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: There's so much camaraderie, especially in the fast. It's scary 834 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: to our brothers in the game. 835 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 3: It's so scary. 836 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 4: It's like, you know, as much as they say it's 837 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 4: a caddy caddy thing for women, a lot of it 838 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 4: is caused by you know, the fans and social media 839 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 4: and you know, people just making opinions on women. So 840 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 4: just just I agreeable what you're saying. It's just a 841 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 4: lot of competition. And I miss the days when you 842 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 4: can see Miss Elliott, you know, Kim the Ladies night. 843 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 4: I pray for times like that that we get to 844 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 4: a level of unity. 845 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: Y'all are closer thanenough. 846 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, you know I would say yes, because 847 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,240 Speaker 2: you know, y'all let each other. 848 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 1: Have y'all man, m. 849 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 3: Okay. 850 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 2: That's that's the part that they don't, you know, they 851 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,399 Speaker 2: don't really that's the part when when people ask, like, well, 852 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 2: why don't these R and B male singers do records together? 853 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 1: Because they are trying to take the same ones. 854 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 3: Behind the ladies. 855 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: That's always. 856 00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,439 Speaker 3: But I thought, man don't really care. 857 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: I feel like they don't. Let them tell you that, 858 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: it'd be a whole lot of pill of talking and 859 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 1: dirty mack in and all. U never see those features together. Wow, 860 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: because it's like men speak of a level of competition 861 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 1: in this space, but they don't really want to compete. 862 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 1: Y'all are putting it out there. I'll sing with whoever. 863 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 1: Let's get Yes, let's let's get on it, let's get 864 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: let's hit the road, whatever or whatever. I mean. I 865 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:43,280 Speaker 1: ain't gonna be mad at on tour us. Somebody gotta 866 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 1: get hurt. Somebody got to start, you know. Calling the 867 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 1: crewel and calling it just gets it over a woman. 868 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 4: You're right, It does elevate a lot quicker with me. 869 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 4: You're right, and I haven't thought of it that way, 870 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 4: but yeah, me and take it, take it to a 871 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,879 Speaker 4: new level, a new height. 872 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thank god we don't have those issues at 873 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 1: R and B money. We work with everybody. Yeah. Well, 874 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 1: also to you know, you gotta get to to to 875 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: the nuance of I had girls. I was a kid 876 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,760 Speaker 1: in church, so women. 877 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, they used to bring me candy that's why I 878 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 2: had civil tea. 879 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,720 Speaker 1: If they haven't seen that simvilitude post that I made, 880 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: that's why they used to bring me candy to school. 881 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 3: How brought this fend? 882 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 1: It was? It was def a thing like I was 883 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 1: a background singer for the guy. I was the background 884 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: singer for genuine Wine. There was no way you're gonna 885 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: get a girl before genuine wine. You have to wait 886 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,320 Speaker 1: till he made his choice. 887 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 5: You have to wait whatever left, whatever, whatever, and then 888 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 5: he might still walk choice to be willing to give 889 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 5: that up for the greater cause it's bigger than me. 890 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 3: You know why you're cutting up. 891 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,760 Speaker 1: But it's just like for the sake of the music 892 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 1: and history to start coming together, we gotta start coming together. 893 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: And I'm saying that. And that's why every like you know, 894 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,280 Speaker 1: with a lot of guys that come through to our platform, 895 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 1: we let them know, Man, I fuck with you. Anything 896 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 1: you need from us, it's up, let's do it. So 897 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:49,280 Speaker 1: you're moving around, yeah, yeah, around the country, the country 898 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,280 Speaker 1: and the world the world. 899 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 3: Have you done overseas I did last year. 900 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 4: We took the tour. We did about six cities in Europe, 901 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 4: and that was an. 902 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 3: Experience different in Europe very different, very different. 903 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 1: And that can be that can be good and bad 904 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 1: at the same time because it's so many differences. 905 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, it built a lot of character because I feel 906 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 4: like in Europe they're a little more reserved at your 907 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 4: shows and as in America where we're screaming, acting a fool, 908 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 4: we dancing, Europe is a little more they have a 909 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 4: lot of more poise. So yeah, it was different, and 910 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,359 Speaker 4: like I say, they didn't I went to like a 911 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 4: Paris and a lot of a lot of the spots 912 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 4: I was that. 913 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 3: Didn't speak the language. So you have to perform without people, 914 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, being as loud or singing 915 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 3: every single word. So it built character, you know. 916 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 4: And what they'll do, they'll wait until you're done and 917 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 4: then they give you a great applause. And yeah, we 918 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 4: really thugged it out when when we went out there. 919 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,840 Speaker 3: It was me and my team. 920 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 4: You know, we didn't have the craziest budget when I went, 921 00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 4: so we put a lot of heart into that tour 922 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 4: and like I said, I was doing it for the fans. 923 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 4: So I can't wait to go back out there again 924 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 4: for a bigger show. 925 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 1: They are appreciating you in a completely different way because 926 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,879 Speaker 1: it's it's it's an appreciation, but it's also like when 927 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: is the next time we're going to see Tink? So 928 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 1: we have to study and download all of this in 929 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 1: the moment. We can't miss nothing. 930 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 3: Yes, that's what it feels. It feels like they're studying you. 931 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,880 Speaker 4: And like I said, I know I'm unfamiliar face and 932 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,319 Speaker 4: some of those territories. So it was it sharpened me, 933 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 4: like you have to keep a game face because. 934 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 1: Coming from this, you think it's something else. 935 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 5: I am. 936 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 3: Exactly. 937 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 4: We are so loud and we are so aggressive what 938 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 4: I love and like I said, when you go out there, 939 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 4: it's a new it's a new vibe at the at 940 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 4: the show. So you know we had to adjustin you know, 941 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 4: you got to fight through and as a performer, I 942 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,360 Speaker 4: had to learn to keep my face, you know, stay excited, 943 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 4: stay in it. 944 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 3: So that built a lot of character. 945 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,879 Speaker 1: Go through your progressions, run your place, yep, no matter 946 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,440 Speaker 1: who out there. And yes, I just I learned that 947 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 1: from being overseas just just watching like like what are 948 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,839 Speaker 1: they what are they doing? They're watching you, watching, They're 949 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 1: paying attend. They don't want to miss any note. They 950 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 1: don't want to miss any core change they are watching 951 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 1: and then after they're like, oh make man, so you 952 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: did like it? 953 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 3: Okay, So y'all do fuck with me? Okay. 954 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,240 Speaker 1: So you moveing around the country right now on something 955 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 1: on something crazy you. 956 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 4: You and Arenas Yes, Oh my god, the Magic Autour, 957 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 4: Jeneko Yes, and support of Janey. 958 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:02,279 Speaker 1: Uh. 959 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 3: Such a crazy show, y'all. It's me, like I say, 960 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 3: koy Lray. 961 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 4: Keanu, La Day and Umi and every night I get 962 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:12,720 Speaker 4: twenty five minutes to do my things. 963 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 3: Yes, it's a it's a it's a great it's a great. 964 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 4: Uh, like a camp of all my music. So fans, 965 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 4: you know, like I say, I'm seeing new faces. I'm 966 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 4: getting to see my day once. We're getting to see 967 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 4: you know, Jane's support team, and I'm just meeting so 968 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 4: many different people on that stage and I'm taking advantage 969 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:34,440 Speaker 4: of that moment. 970 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 3: It's a great, great tour. 971 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,400 Speaker 4: You know, we got Cooy who brings that aggression, that 972 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 4: rap vibe, and I feel like me and Janey we 973 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 4: share a lot of fans too, with the R and B. 974 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:50,319 Speaker 4: So that's why it's special because I feel like, you know, 975 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 4: I go back to the early you know twenty twelve 976 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 4: days and her fans are familiar with that R and 977 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 4: B type of music, So it's beautiful, y'all. I'm so 978 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 4: thankful a lot of a lot of Like I say, 979 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 4: it's hard to see women come together, and I'm just 980 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 4: happy Jane gave me the opportunity and saw something in 981 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,400 Speaker 4: me to say, hey, put her on directly. 982 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 3: You know, it's direct supporting me. That's that's the ultimat. 983 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 1: I feel like you made the most sense, Like I 984 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,399 Speaker 1: think when I look at. 985 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,319 Speaker 3: Both of them, but there's so many girls she could have. 986 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, have this do amazing rn B, I have this. 987 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,400 Speaker 4: I love that hood Hitaler. 988 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,760 Speaker 2: It's like, don't like, I'm gonna make you this soup, 989 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 2: but don't get it fucked up. That is that's how 990 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 2: I feel when I listen to your music. It's like 991 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 2: it's airy and it's flowy, but then it's. 992 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:54,359 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I stabbed your ass. You know what I'm 993 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 1: saying that It just it to me. Y'all make perfect 994 00:52:58,719 --> 00:52:59,760 Speaker 1: sense on the road together. 995 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:00,400 Speaker 3: Thank you. 996 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:01,799 Speaker 1: I can't wait topciate it. 997 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,759 Speaker 4: Yes please, I'm in La were at the Crypto and 998 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:12,879 Speaker 4: this is an arena at the Crypto. Lakers playing big, big, 999 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 4: big for a young lady from Chicago. 1000 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,839 Speaker 3: This is huge. So I'm giving I'm giving it all. 1001 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 1: I got into your rap bag. Any well, I do. 1002 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 4: Have a couple of songs. Don't tell nobody. It's on 1003 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 4: that wrap side. I out a couple of records I 1004 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,799 Speaker 4: could really turn up, but it's the magic hour, so 1005 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,280 Speaker 4: this is my gracious moment. 1006 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:36,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I plan on. 1007 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 4: I'm working on something special for my fans where I 1008 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 4: can really let and then incorporate everything. So I'm swinging. 1009 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 4: I'm swinging again next year. You know, be looking out 1010 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 4: for me. 1011 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 1: You got another project coming well. 1012 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 4: Tory, Okay, we're working on something special. I won't know when, 1013 00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 4: but I am trying to make sure I serve my fans. 1014 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 4: They want to They want to tour so bad. 1015 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question. You've at this 1016 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 1: point already done so much, and from the outside looking 1017 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 1: in and just even having this conversation with you, it 1018 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 1: feels like there's still so much more to do, so much. 1019 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,760 Speaker 1: One what is what is I'm sure there are many goals, 1020 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,320 Speaker 1: but what's what's an ultimate go What's one you can 1021 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 1: articulate right now where you see five ten years down 1022 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,799 Speaker 1: the line, this is this, this is what and where 1023 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:33,319 Speaker 1: I will be. 1024 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,719 Speaker 4: I'll tell you one one of my main goals, I 1025 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 4: want to run the charts. I feel like I haven't 1026 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,759 Speaker 4: got the opportunity to really have I guess, a top 1027 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 4: tier and number one and. 1028 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,920 Speaker 1: You need it, you need it. 1029 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it would just really make everything worthwhile. You know, 1030 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 4: I have so many songs that I feel like that 1031 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,399 Speaker 4: was it, that was it. So I'm waiting on that 1032 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:08,239 Speaker 4: billboard moment for me, and I want a record that 1033 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 4: stays on the charts like it's stuck there, she's she's there, 1034 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 4: it's in that top ten, even a number one. You know, 1035 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,279 Speaker 4: I haven't really been able to just tap that chart 1036 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,440 Speaker 4: yet the way I want to. So that's that's my 1037 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 4: next move. And it's going to take some some genius. 1038 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,919 Speaker 4: Like it's gonna take you know what I mean, because 1039 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 4: I've been doing it so long. So I'm like, what 1040 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 4: is that key that that turns the billboard chart up? 1041 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 4: And That's where I'm at now, figuring out how to 1042 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 4: keep my keep my formula the same, but also. 1043 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 3: Tap in on that end. 1044 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,880 Speaker 1: I always say this, it's if you're if you're working, 1045 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 1: truly working and truly building It's never a matter of if, 1046 00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 1: it's only a matter of when. And so as you 1047 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,880 Speaker 1: continue to grow and build and work, yeah, it's going 1048 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 1: to come. 1049 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,439 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love that. 1050 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 1: It has to. 1051 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1052 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,400 Speaker 1: It's just like it's like magic. It's like you just 1053 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 1: you just look up one day and you're like shit, 1054 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 1: I called this out like two years ago, and you 1055 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 1: look up. But you look up from from working. You 1056 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,799 Speaker 1: have to hould up, am I number one way now? 1057 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:31,880 Speaker 3: About that? From working? 1058 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:32,880 Speaker 1: From working? 1059 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,920 Speaker 4: Yes, And that's why to just tie in with you 1060 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 4: guys said earlier, I have so much music because I 1061 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 4: cannot stop working. I don't want to stop, you know 1062 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 4: what I mean. I'm looking for something. You know, I haven't. 1063 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,880 Speaker 4: I haven't scratched that off the list yet. 1064 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 3: So be prepared. 1065 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 1: You know. 1066 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 3: There may be another album next year, maybe another album December. 1067 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:56,319 Speaker 3: I'm like that. 1068 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so crazy. 1069 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 3: He's so crazy like that. 1070 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:11,560 Speaker 1: It's like when you talk that Billboard talk like I 1071 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 1: get it. I love streaming, I love I love I 1072 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 1: love all of these different mediums where our music it's 1073 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 1: played and people can hear it and absorb it. But 1074 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:33,480 Speaker 1: something about that Billboard top ten just makes shit special. 1075 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:35,640 Speaker 3: Thanks. 1076 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:40,600 Speaker 1: I am with you my sister on this chase and 1077 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 1: this hunt to that hot one hun. R and B 1078 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 1: deserves it that part too. 1079 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 4: And that's the thing why it's good to have this 1080 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 4: conversation here, R and B. You know what I mean, honestly, 1081 00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 4: what genre is better than R and B? Am I opinion, 1082 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 4: we deserve so much more. 1083 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 3: Quality R and B. So we deserve so much more. 1084 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 1: You shouldn't be penalized because you can sing good, because 1085 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,080 Speaker 1: you look good, because you perform good. That shouldn't be 1086 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 1: a knock against you. Because everybody can't do what you do. Come, 1087 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 1: that's the point of his ship. That's why I'm here 1088 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 1: to give you something that you don't have. God gives 1089 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 1: everybody their own measure. This is mind. Yeah, wow, my 1090 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 1: mother fucking flowers, come on, come on board. 1091 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's coming though, I wholeheartedly believe it. But like 1092 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,760 Speaker 4: I say, it's it's just a matter of time, and 1093 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 4: like you say, it's not even if it's when. 1094 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think I feel like the tink Tank 1095 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 1: moment is gonna happen. It has to feel. 1096 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:00,960 Speaker 3: I'm so glad you said that. 1097 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 4: I see all the time, like our names, I saw 1098 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:06,560 Speaker 4: similar people mistake it so much I'm like a record together. 1099 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 4: We could do some crazy marketing. It's just some incredible 1100 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:11,920 Speaker 4: promotion behind it. 1101 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 1: Tink and Tank. 1102 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that would just fuck my heart up. 1103 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 1: Man. Please your top five R and B. 1104 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:36,720 Speaker 3: Singers, top five for me Beyonce, like when you started Beyonce, Rihannam. 1105 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:43,439 Speaker 1: You're just gonna start keep it there, Beyonna. 1106 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 3: Mary j Blie, I love that a lot of influence. 1107 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,680 Speaker 1: I love that. 1108 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 3: I had to say, Mary j Blis, Lauren Hill, you 1109 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:00,560 Speaker 3: don't speak enough about the. 1110 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:05,439 Speaker 2: Queen Unicorn Yes on BT Awards her and her son 1111 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,440 Speaker 2: Unicorn busy. 1112 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:13,880 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. My fifth. 1113 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:24,960 Speaker 4: If I could make Usher and Chris Brown into one, 1114 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 4: Usher Brown Chris Raymond, I have to give some credits 1115 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,400 Speaker 4: to the fellas, uh Usher Chris Brown for my generation. 1116 01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:39,440 Speaker 4: I came up off Chris. That is my top five 1117 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 4: R and B. Yes, Usher Brown, that. 1118 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:53,880 Speaker 3: Is that's something. Listen when you said that, Mary Jay, pioneer, pioneer, trailblazer, 1119 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,320 Speaker 3: No no one can compare. 1120 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 1: Yes cut. 1121 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 4: All absolutely and and like I said, the Chicago and me, 1122 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:09,400 Speaker 4: the hood in me. I feel Mary on so many levels. 1123 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:14,920 Speaker 4: Ndred percent, you know, per her demeanor, her stage presence. 1124 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 3: You know the swagger. 1125 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 1: She means it. 1126 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:21,040 Speaker 3: She means it. 1127 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:22,480 Speaker 1: IM playing with you. 1128 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's that's it. She puts some fear in 1129 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 4: you when you're here. I said that like I slapped 1130 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 4: the ship. 1131 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 3: Out of you. 1132 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:30,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1133 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been on the road with. 1134 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,160 Speaker 3: Her, respectfully, respectfully Mary Queen. 1135 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh it's been there for a minute. I thought 1136 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 1: it was on purpose. I thought we had a sponsorship. 1137 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 1: We had a sponsorship was going. I was like, okay, 1138 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:59,240 Speaker 1: we're plugging sponsorship. That's that's exciting. Sponsoring up after that 1139 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 1: check to come in. They only sponsored timberlat my nerves. 1140 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 1: You get everything first. We're ready. We're good. Okay, Tink 1141 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:18,160 Speaker 1: your top five R and B song Yes you are 1142 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 1: an R and B song writer. 1143 01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, top five R and B songs. Okay, this 1144 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 4: is my perspective, y'all give me grace. 1145 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 3: Kisha call. Love did something to my spirit. 1146 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 1: It does something that every spirit that hears it every 1147 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 1: time it comes on. They got a commercial. 1148 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,240 Speaker 3: Now it's like a spiritual hair. 1149 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,959 Speaker 2: Father and his kids in the car and singing Love 1150 01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 2: comes on. I said, it's amazing. 1151 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 1: Come on, R and D. 1152 01:02:54,720 --> 01:03:02,720 Speaker 3: Needs you bad. Jazmine Ellivant confessions us. 1153 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,560 Speaker 1: Sure why not. Why not. You're on a row. 1154 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 3: You're on a row dangerously in love Beyonce? 1155 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:16,400 Speaker 1: Yes, have you seen her do it live? No, it 1156 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:17,600 Speaker 1: doesn't even make sense. 1157 01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 3: No I haven't. 1158 01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 2: She's cheating like it said, cheat code. It's like, how 1159 01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,439 Speaker 2: can you sing up there? 1160 01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 3: Yes? 1161 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 4: I was at her last story identical to her tracks. 1162 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,680 Speaker 3: Scares me to watch her perform the. 1163 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:39,560 Speaker 1: Like you said earlier though rehearsal, Yes, perfecting your craft. Yes, 1164 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 1: I be having an audit, just like I'm having to 1165 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,680 Speaker 1: go a few times so I can really audit with 1166 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 1: what's happened? 1167 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:47,120 Speaker 3: What's happening? 1168 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,560 Speaker 1: If you only go once, you're be like what the 1169 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:49,240 Speaker 1: just happened? 1170 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 4: Yes, that was my experience, so in awe. Yes, so 1171 01:03:54,560 --> 01:04:01,880 Speaker 4: also stuck watching Beyonce and then uh class Timeless week 1172 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 4: by s w V taught me how to run, taught 1173 01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:10,560 Speaker 4: me riffs. I feel like I mimic them and so 1174 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,000 Speaker 4: many of my records, you know, the breakdowns, the harmonies, 1175 01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:14,560 Speaker 4: the crying. 1176 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:17,959 Speaker 3: Yes, I think that's a five. 1177 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,000 Speaker 1: That's a great five. Yes, I love the s WV 1178 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:22,840 Speaker 1: because Coco don't get enough credit. 1179 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, talk about it. 1180 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:30,920 Speaker 1: Coco is a building building block of this female R 1181 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:37,080 Speaker 1: and B vocalshm. Let's do this. Let's build a vultron. 1182 01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:41,000 Speaker 1: You're super R and B artists, Okay, you're gonna piece 1183 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,240 Speaker 1: them together. We want to know you can get the 1184 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 1: vocal from who you're gonna get the performance style from. 1185 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,880 Speaker 1: Who you're gonna get the styling front, you're going to 1186 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,800 Speaker 1: get the passion from. And since you are sid right 1187 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 1: to who's going to write for this artist, let's start 1188 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,440 Speaker 1: with the vocal. Who's vocal you're going to get to 1189 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,760 Speaker 1: make your super R and B artists and vocal. 1190 01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 3: The vocal Whitney Euston. 1191 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:11,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I want to dance with somebody as well, 1192 01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:20,400 Speaker 1: with somebody who loves me. Ship that range everything it is. 1193 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:27,880 Speaker 1: She is the voice, performance style on stage, what they're 1194 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:28,360 Speaker 1: doing on. 1195 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 3: Stage, Beyonce, Yeah, the greatest, the greatest, that's it. 1196 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:49,760 Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, the styling, the drip, that's a great one. 1197 01:05:55,800 --> 01:06:04,200 Speaker 3: That girl can't go wrong. Be flyes there, undeniable in 1198 01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:08,040 Speaker 3: her sleep on on on any level too. 1199 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:14,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yes, you can catch your I fashion. Yeah, 1200 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:20,400 Speaker 6: you know what you're doing. The passion of the artist, 1201 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,640 Speaker 6: the heart of the artists, the. 1202 01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:36,120 Speaker 3: Heart of the artist. Mm hmm, that's deep. Okay, passion. 1203 01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:38,800 Speaker 1: Will make you feel something. 1204 01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:50,760 Speaker 3: H Yeah, yeah, I study. I study. 1205 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:59,560 Speaker 1: This is why you are who you are? Yes, well studied. Yes, 1206 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:05,160 Speaker 1: lost art. Who's writing for this artist? 1207 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:12,520 Speaker 3: Okay, Missy Elliott it's the mixed. 1208 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, the ballot. 1209 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:16,840 Speaker 3: She so talented. 1210 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,200 Speaker 1: I just went to that concert. I just went to 1211 01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:25,080 Speaker 1: Missy's concert. Yes, I was fucked up. My whole ride home, 1212 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:26,120 Speaker 1: I was fucked up. 1213 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 3: I'm like her catalog's crazy. 1214 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:35,880 Speaker 1: Thirty years. She said, she was like thirty years. High level, 1215 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:37,479 Speaker 1: high level. 1216 01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:42,600 Speaker 2: Shout out to Missy Elliott Mona Scott high hat that show. 1217 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:47,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, creative genius man. 1218 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,880 Speaker 4: Her energy too, I've seen, I've seen the videosh. 1219 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:53,680 Speaker 1: I got it. I got a phone full of them. 1220 01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:54,600 Speaker 3: Her energy. 1221 01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,080 Speaker 1: And I'm not even that I'm not even the kind 1222 01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,320 Speaker 1: of guy to be like I want to. Yeah, but 1223 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,640 Speaker 1: I had to him, I'm like to film some of this, 1224 01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:03,600 Speaker 1: like this is crazy. 1225 01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:05,000 Speaker 3: I agree. 1226 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:09,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, mister Ellie has the writer. Yeah, miss the meaner. 1227 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:11,480 Speaker 3: That's really hard. 1228 01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,520 Speaker 1: It didn't seem like yeah, now you you you cooked, 1229 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,439 Speaker 1: you cooked, But we got something else for you. We 1230 01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,040 Speaker 1: got we got more time before we let you leave. 1231 01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:28,599 Speaker 1: We know, we know you got ship to do. Ain't 1232 01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,679 Speaker 1: saying no nick. I ain't saying no names. I ain't 1233 01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:36,040 Speaker 1: saying no name. Ain't saying no na. Who he was? 1234 01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:42,599 Speaker 1: What you did? Don't say she? And I ain't saying 1235 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:43,320 Speaker 1: no name. 1236 01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:57,320 Speaker 2: Very special part of our show's card. I ain't saying 1237 01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:01,280 Speaker 2: no name. When you tell us a story funny or 1238 01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,040 Speaker 2: fucked up? Are funny and fucked up? 1239 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:06,960 Speaker 1: You know, kind of like some of the songs you 1240 01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:07,479 Speaker 1: be writing. 1241 01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:11,920 Speaker 3: Okay, you know it's it's. 1242 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 2: Like, it's not supposed to be funny, but all you 1243 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,120 Speaker 2: can do is laugh at some of the ship and 1244 01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,400 Speaker 2: the name of this segment, and this portion is called 1245 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,240 Speaker 2: I ain't saying no names. 1246 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,200 Speaker 1: With a rule to the game, she just can't say 1247 01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:26,720 Speaker 1: no names. Oh my gosh. 1248 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:28,759 Speaker 3: Okay, that's all. That's all. 1249 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,080 Speaker 4: And I have a lot of story in this in 1250 01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:41,679 Speaker 4: his mind right here. Okay, interesting story, funny story, no names. 1251 01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:42,839 Speaker 3: Okay. 1252 01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,599 Speaker 4: Interesting story about how one of my records just came together. 1253 01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:57,000 Speaker 4: I was in the process of making an album and 1254 01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:00,000 Speaker 4: at the time I was working with a few producers. 1255 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:01,599 Speaker 3: No names. 1256 01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,799 Speaker 4: Okay, the time, I was working with a few people, 1257 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:09,840 Speaker 4: and there was a song that we did that was 1258 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 4: literally on the cuff of blowing up and I'll never 1259 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,080 Speaker 4: forget it because. 1260 01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,840 Speaker 3: The producer or this is really hard y'all. 1261 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:33,439 Speaker 4: So the person working on the record. 1262 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,280 Speaker 3: He invited the other person to come into the lab. 1263 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,720 Speaker 4: And like I say, at the time, this song we 1264 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:41,519 Speaker 4: were all working on was bubbling, and there was a 1265 01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:49,040 Speaker 4: moment when I guess paperwork wasn't right and something I've 1266 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:53,519 Speaker 4: never witnessed. But these two people they ended up in 1267 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,840 Speaker 4: the studio at the same time. Although we were working 1268 01:10:55,880 --> 01:11:01,760 Speaker 4: on the same project. Paperwork isn't being handled correctly. So 1269 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,679 Speaker 4: we're all chilling in the studio working and the vibe 1270 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:05,760 Speaker 4: is cool. 1271 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:08,639 Speaker 3: One person walks in, jumps on the. 1272 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:18,400 Speaker 4: Table behind that paperwork and demands demands that person and 1273 01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:25,639 Speaker 4: no names, but you know, behind paperwork a lot can 1274 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:30,280 Speaker 4: go down. So I'm in the studio and I'm kind 1275 01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,120 Speaker 4: of in the middle of everything, and I'm not sure 1276 01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 4: what to say because I'm just grateful to be here. 1277 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,680 Speaker 4: But when a song is about to do what it's 1278 01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,840 Speaker 4: about to do, your paperwork gotta be right before you know, 1279 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,720 Speaker 4: before it goes out, because there's a lot of a 1280 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,559 Speaker 4: lot of emotion behind a dollar So something I had 1281 01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:51,920 Speaker 4: never witnessed before. But the person had to jump on 1282 01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:56,240 Speaker 4: the table to demand that they get their percentage right. Yeah, 1283 01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,519 Speaker 4: literally jumped on the table, two feet on the table. 1284 01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,519 Speaker 4: And this is a glass table next to that fresh fruit. 1285 01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,479 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, This is a grand setting. 1286 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:12,640 Speaker 4: It's beautiful, and to this day, I don't think that 1287 01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:19,080 Speaker 4: you know, they speak anymore. And that's the reason why. 1288 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,880 Speaker 4: You know, paperwork gotta be right, make sure it's right, 1289 01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,040 Speaker 4: because you know, people really get crazy behind that dollar 1290 01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:31,080 Speaker 4: and that's split. So yeah, like I say, got on 1291 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,040 Speaker 4: the table. The other person was the bigger person just 1292 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:38,360 Speaker 4: walked away, and I'm so glad they did. 1293 01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:39,800 Speaker 3: But I never forget that. 1294 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:43,760 Speaker 4: I'll never forget that moment, and I think it just 1295 01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,120 Speaker 4: taught me to have business in order. We don't leave 1296 01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,880 Speaker 4: people out. We make sure everybody get taken care of. 1297 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,759 Speaker 4: And to this day, I keep my sheets, my split 1298 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:56,200 Speaker 4: sheets on me, or I make sure my attorney is 1299 01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,560 Speaker 4: handling stuff because people will walk in and jump on 1300 01:12:58,600 --> 01:12:59,080 Speaker 4: your table. 1301 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:05,719 Speaker 2: So my question is, did the table jumper get that percentage? 1302 01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,040 Speaker 3: The song was never clear? 1303 01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:16,679 Speaker 4: Wow mm hmm, that song was never still in dispute. 1304 01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just unfortunate. 1305 01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:22,160 Speaker 4: I think the way they handled it had something to 1306 01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:24,200 Speaker 4: do with that, so we could have handled it better 1307 01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:30,680 Speaker 4: a conversation, a sit down instead of a sit down 1308 01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,960 Speaker 4: instead of a jump up. But yeah, musicians, we are 1309 01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:38,400 Speaker 4: sensitive about our all right, So I understand both angles. 1310 01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,759 Speaker 4: But it's a time and place for everything. 1311 01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's why, Like we've always adopted this 1312 01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:50,920 Speaker 1: thing where if you're in the room, we just all 1313 01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:55,679 Speaker 1: chop it up because of course you don't want those 1314 01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,760 Speaker 1: type of situations, right, those uncomfortable situations. But then at 1315 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,519 Speaker 1: the same time, the bigger conversation is, we do so 1316 01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,519 Speaker 1: many records, why are we fighting over one? 1317 01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,280 Speaker 2: But we're also choosy about the room. You have to 1318 01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,680 Speaker 2: be choosy about the room. And it's so and I'm 1319 01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,120 Speaker 2: sure you get this a lot. That's good as your 1320 01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,760 Speaker 2: you know, as your career is continuing to grow, and 1321 01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:21,559 Speaker 2: it's send more and more people are let's work, let's work, 1322 01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:26,160 Speaker 2: let's work. You can't work with everybody. You have to 1323 01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,679 Speaker 2: be choosy about who you work with because that same 1324 01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,760 Speaker 2: person that's yelling less work, let's work, less work, after 1325 01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,520 Speaker 2: something may get done, they may change their tone. 1326 01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Like I gotta I gotta know you to work 1327 01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,920 Speaker 1: with you. I like to get to know people. 1328 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:42,559 Speaker 3: That's it. 1329 01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:46,880 Speaker 1: Take me on the date, the energy, the energy. Yeah, 1330 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:48,559 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Let's get to know each other. 1331 01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I like to work around people that 1332 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,160 Speaker 4: feel like family, so we don't have to argue. 1333 01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,280 Speaker 3: I want to see you eat. You want to see 1334 01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:56,559 Speaker 3: me eat? 1335 01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,880 Speaker 1: Because you can hold your friends accountable as well. Absolutely, 1336 01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:00,920 Speaker 1: that's true. You can't. I really hope people you don't 1337 01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:06,720 Speaker 1: know accountable because you don't know them. Yeah, you're right, 1338 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:09,920 Speaker 1: if you're gonna be helping me tell my story. 1339 01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I never want to be in the studio. And 1340 01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,040 Speaker 2: that's what the what it is somebody jumping on the 1341 01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,320 Speaker 2: table because and that person could have, like you said, 1342 01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,400 Speaker 2: you understand both sides of it. That person could have 1343 01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:24,479 Speaker 2: been right for jumping on that table, but even putting 1344 01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:28,240 Speaker 2: somebody in a position to have to do that, that's that's. 1345 01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:28,640 Speaker 1: Not what I'm in. 1346 01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:33,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's ways to communicate. Yeah, so I agree. You know, 1347 01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:35,600 Speaker 3: you got to work with good people and people that 1348 01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:36,839 Speaker 3: love you and want to see. 1349 01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:40,920 Speaker 1: You when you know, well, I hope they both see 1350 01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:41,439 Speaker 1: this and then. 1351 01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:47,400 Speaker 3: They let's get the money. 1352 01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:51,280 Speaker 1: Let's get money, get the record to the people. Come on, now, 1353 01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,920 Speaker 1: that's just that's just one more record added added to 1354 01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:59,040 Speaker 1: the repertoire. Because Tink wants are plaques to come on? 1355 01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:00,000 Speaker 1: Say that more plans? 1356 01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,160 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's a long time coming. 1357 01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:09,000 Speaker 1: Oh god, damn plaque on the way. Well think I think, 1358 01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:16,320 Speaker 1: thank yeah, yes you start app I think. 1359 01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,639 Speaker 3: You will go to it, will go to the ladies 1360 01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:21,360 Speaker 3: love it. 1361 01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:22,360 Speaker 1: You are so dope. 1362 01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:23,720 Speaker 3: Thank you. 1363 01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:28,320 Speaker 1: Now we appreciate I know for a fact you were 1364 01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:32,120 Speaker 1: just you were just scratching the surface. Even with all 1365 01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,200 Speaker 1: these big moments you've had to this point, you are 1366 01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:35,639 Speaker 1: just scratching the surface. 1367 01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:37,920 Speaker 3: Made me cry. Thank you. 1368 01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:42,680 Speaker 1: Sure of I'm sure of your billboard, I'm sure of 1369 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,720 Speaker 1: your own headline tour and people wanting to see you 1370 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:47,800 Speaker 1: do what you do from top to bottom. They want 1371 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:48,919 Speaker 1: to hear all them albums. 1372 01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,439 Speaker 4: Thank you, And this will be the interview we look 1373 01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:55,479 Speaker 4: back on when that when that billboard hit, when that chart, 1374 01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,960 Speaker 4: when when we tried on to you know, get there. 1375 01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,000 Speaker 4: I will look back on this and I appreciate you 1376 01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,000 Speaker 4: y'all for putting this in the air, manifesting it today. 1377 01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:04,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely so, thank you. 1378 01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:06,080 Speaker 3: This moment means so much. 1379 01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely well. I mean, you're product of hard work and 1380 01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:13,200 Speaker 1: dedication and and true gift and so we support you, 1381 01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:17,960 Speaker 1: we appreciate you. This is not this is not a 1382 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,479 Speaker 1: promotional stop. This is home for you. So anytime you 1383 01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:26,000 Speaker 1: need anything from any of us, it's We're a text away. 1384 01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:29,160 Speaker 1: You ain't got a call and a pull up and 1385 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:29,880 Speaker 1: it's that easy. 1386 01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:33,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we can go to the studio are Yeah, 1387 01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,680 Speaker 3: thank you so much too. 1388 01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:40,479 Speaker 1: Sessions before yeah, yeah, came to listen to the music before. Yeah, 1389 01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:44,240 Speaker 1: I ain't gett no call, but you know what I'm saying, Yeah, 1390 01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:49,960 Speaker 1: get a call there always get you amongst family. 1391 01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,600 Speaker 3: Thank you, you have beautiful Thank you. Thank you for 1392 01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:57,120 Speaker 3: welcoming me and of course like making me feel so comfortable. 1393 01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:58,800 Speaker 3: I really love it here. 1394 01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:02,080 Speaker 1: Thank you absolutely well, Ladies and gentle money is Tank. 1395 01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm Turks Valentine. If you haven't seen, this is the 1396 01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:16,679 Speaker 1: Rmy Money podcast on all things R and B. Just amazing, man. 1397 01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:18,599 Speaker 1: Please make some noise for tanking