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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast knows what snap face is.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I'm joined by a

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Rosa. Thought,

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Speaker 1: what's up? Boys? He d combine week is here. But

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Speaker 1: before we get to that, how about those oscars? Ba

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Speaker 1: ba boom? Did you watch it? I didn't even I

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Speaker 1: didn't watch a second of it. I watched a portion

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Speaker 1: of it, and then I did what everyone else does

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Speaker 1: in the twenty one century. I saw the good parts

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Speaker 1: on the internet. In the morning, I watched the entire

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Speaker 1: thing upset of the year. Who sports bar with the

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Speaker 1: volume on? That doesn't that might be an only in

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Speaker 1: l A thing that or maybe I'm wrong, but definitely

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Speaker 1: uh an l A staple that an oscar night which

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Speaker 1: is a big deal here, that it would be treated

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Speaker 1: almost like the super Bowl where volume up. That's when

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Speaker 1: you know it's a big sports event. If you go

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Speaker 1: to a bar and they're doing the volume and the touch.

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Speaker 1: I always like, you know it's a good sports bar

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Speaker 1: when they have the big game, volume up, commercial break,

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Speaker 1: bang in with your jukebox and that cos a lot

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Speaker 1: of coordination. Yeah, but I noticed that I committed to

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Speaker 1: being a good venue that day. If you're going to

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Speaker 1: do it, I agree with you. That's that's the golden

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Speaker 1: ticket you You did not watch it in the strangest

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Speaker 1: place of anyone on this podcast, though, I mean, do

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Speaker 1: you are you guys aware of where Sydney watched the Oscars?

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Speaker 1: I am. I could probably guess, Hey, guys, who who

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Speaker 1: are the Who is the crowd Sydney that goes to

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Speaker 1: disney Land to watch the Oscars. It seems like a strange.

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Speaker 1: It was not even planning on it, but they sent

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Speaker 1: out like a Facebook blast that was like, hey, if

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Speaker 1: you have an annual pass, we're showing the Oscars at

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Speaker 1: the Opera House on Main Street. And I was like, yes,

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Speaker 1: that is for me. I am going to bet and

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Speaker 1: on and on your Facebook page you called it the

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Speaker 1: most magical evening watching the Oscars followed by fireworks in

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Speaker 1: a prey what time are the Oscars over the finished

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Speaker 1: around ninth third? I mean the fact that there's more

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Speaker 1: fireworks in a whole parade on furling at Disneyland after

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Speaker 1: that or Disney It's to me that feels like a packed,

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Speaker 1: a packed evening. That's why New Money is so loyal

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Speaker 1: to the brand, because she goes there and she says,

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Speaker 1: I checked my worries at the gate. Well, after I

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Speaker 1: pay the eighteen dollar parking fee, I check my worries

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Speaker 1: at the gate, and I'm I'm a happy I'm a

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Speaker 1: happy woman. Super accurate, so accurate. There how many there was.

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Speaker 1: There's no dry eyes in the house, you know, when

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Speaker 1: the Moana girl came out, at least not in the

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Speaker 1: Sydney there was not, and there were a bunch of

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Speaker 1: there were also were no dry eyes after the end,

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Speaker 1: well not after the end, but at the end when

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Speaker 1: they came back and said just kidding, not La La Land,

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Speaker 1: everybody in the theater had to melt down, and it

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Speaker 1: was that's so great. That seems like a disney World

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Speaker 1: Disneyland crowd. The meltdown at the Disneyland airing of the Oscar,

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Speaker 1: it's like, you know, when you're watching a football game,

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Speaker 1: let's bring it right back to sports. You're well a

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Speaker 1: football game and there's like the surrender cobras or people

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Speaker 1: all around me in the theater, and I was quite

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Speaker 1: enjoying it. Probably yes, like you put your hands behind

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Speaker 1: Marines that during the weekends which she's not at Disney.

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Speaker 1: I don't typically wonder if she's substance free or not.

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Speaker 1: I know she is, but I have to question what

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Speaker 1: she's describing. Uh. This is the Monday edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast, and you know, people have been

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Speaker 1: wondering what's going on with the schedule of the show.

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Speaker 1: We've been doing two shows a week. First of all,

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Speaker 1: you know, calm down, We're doing the best we can.

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Speaker 1: But if it makes you feel better, if you do

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Speaker 1: love listening to new shows three times a week, know

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Speaker 1: that it's coming. It's not coming this week because Greg

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Speaker 1: we anticipate I can't promise anything. We anticipate three shows

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Speaker 1: every week through the draft. Oh probably yeah, through mid June.

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Speaker 1: under promise, over deliver, Greg, just overpromised. Now we have

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Speaker 1: nothing to do but just a hardcore deliver. Maybe that's good.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's your old boss. We're gonna do it, am I?

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Speaker 1: Who am I to fight with NFL Networks? Greg Rosenthal?

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Speaker 1: Now we've got to be very quiet up in the clearing.

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Speaker 1: We have the incredibly rere inn Film Networks. Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: Oh you scanned it, Awaite. That's one of my favorites.

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Speaker 1: Who who said that? One? Said that one's from Andrew

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Speaker 1: oh oh my god. Breaking news this early in the show.

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Speaker 1: What's breaking news before the news. That's the first, Antonio

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Speaker 1: Brown to be the highest paid wide receiver in football,

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Speaker 1: according to NFL Networks Ian Rappaport, fifteen million dollars plus

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Speaker 1: per year. And that makes a lot of sense, right.

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Speaker 1: I Mean, there was some talk that he was getting

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Speaker 1: five years. Yeah, you can certainly argue that Julio Jones

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown has set records over the past few years.

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Speaker 1: He's been the most productive wide receiver in football. And

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Speaker 1: him to retire along with Levan Bell as a Steeler,

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Speaker 1: and they made it work quick. Now. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: where But isn't Antonio Brown's agents thinking why not wait

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Speaker 1: go crazy this offseason. So there you go, right off

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Speaker 1: the Hague, Netherlands and UH. In addition to the latest

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Speaker 1: in the franchise tag UH news, which the the deadline

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Speaker 1: UH for Around the NFL, the free agency one oh one.

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal team up UH to break

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Speaker 1: down the top one free agents saucy UH and that

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Speaker 1: so SID let's do it. It's already ah. Yes, Bill

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Speaker 1: Paxton passed away over the weekend, age sixty one. Great

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Speaker 1: Sneaky gray career Bill Paxson and everybody have a Bill

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Speaker 1: Levian Bell will not hit the open market. The team,

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Speaker 1: the running back Monday. According to rap Sheet, the exclusive

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Speaker 1: tag means he cannot negotiate with any other team. UH.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers later confirmed this news UH and that tag

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Speaker 1: is expected to surpass twelve million for running backs this season. Greg,

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Speaker 1: franchises are are going out and writing checks for free agents. Yeah,

427
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Speaker 1: he's got the he's got the red flags, but he's

428
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Speaker 1: also a few was in the draft and you're just

429
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Speaker 1: not talking about the red fight. I mean he's he's

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Speaker 1: maybe the number you know, one pick or number two

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Speaker 1: or three pick. Again, they basically you get the all

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Speaker 1: pro right, and you get him for four years and

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Speaker 1: an affordable cost. It's like your this is a major

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Speaker 1: investment in a player with you know, overt and maybe

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Speaker 1: covert question marks. Covert kind of fit together. Okay, moving

436
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Speaker 1: on out of tag talk, we're still tackle talk, well

437
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Speaker 1: not technically at tackle. He center, but he's not an

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Speaker 1: offensive line UH and it, but it won't be the

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Speaker 1: offensive line of the New York Jets because Nick Nick Mangold,

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Speaker 1: after eleven fine seasons UH in New York was let

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Speaker 1: go released on Friday, which was the latest UH indication

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Speaker 1: yet that the Jets are in a full blown rebuild mode.

443
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Speaker 1: Because Mangold is old but not ancient. He's thirty three

444
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Speaker 1: and has always played at a high level. UH. This

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Speaker 1: past year, the injuries and ankle injury, which is pretty

446
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Speaker 1: serious as it turned out, UH kind of messed up

447
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Speaker 1: his season this year. But the Jets continue to move

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Speaker 1: away and clear salary because they had one of the

449
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Speaker 1: more kind of messed up situations that the Jets, despite

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Speaker 1: having a roster not filled with talent, had one of

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Speaker 1: the more bloated salary caps, and they had to do

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Speaker 1: something about that. So it leads to tough decisions, including

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Speaker 1: goodbye to Nick Mangold. Uh. We'll get to him a

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Speaker 1: little later in the top one oh one list, because

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Speaker 1: I do have a question about where he ended up ranking,

456
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Speaker 1: but I think it would be good. We haven't heard

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Speaker 1: from him in a while. I talked to my dad

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Speaker 1: briefly Keith hands us about the Jets and where where

459
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Speaker 1: their off season is going. So said, why don't we

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Speaker 1: check back in uh with my dad. Now, his name

461
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Speaker 1: is Key, his dad's dad, no doubt about it. He's

462
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Speaker 1: a big Jets fan. What is he going to say

463
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Speaker 1: game today? What is he going today? The release of

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Speaker 1: Mangold is uh is a terrible move I think for

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Speaker 1: the Jets at this time. I know they're trying to

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Speaker 1: reduce the cap space, but I still think he's a

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Speaker 1: leader and I was against that move. Uh. So we'll

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Speaker 1: see how that all plays out. Because their offensive line

469
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Speaker 1: isn't dead shaped um beevius, I think they should eliminate

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Speaker 1: him at this point because Elimon is play from last

471
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Speaker 1: year it was terrible and we'll see what happens quarterback

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Speaker 1: that still schemes to be I think a trade has

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Speaker 1: to be done. Okay, we can't go with the guys

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Speaker 1: we have right now. So that's it. That's going to say,

475
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Speaker 1: we're heading towards the corner. You listen to my dad's voice.

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Speaker 1: Not a lot of time now. I think a lot

477
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Speaker 1: of things to be excited about right now. Well, listen,

478
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Speaker 1: there are a lot of corners. He's on the second

479
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Speaker 1: corner right now. You ain't taking my corner. But I

480
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Speaker 1: he said, he nailed one thing. You look at you

481
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Speaker 1: look at New York's depth chart along the offensive line.

482
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Speaker 1: It was bad last year. They absolutely need to address

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Speaker 1: it in every way they can. They have to. They're

484
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Speaker 1: both their guards. They have two guards, uh, and everything

485
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Speaker 1: else is undecided. And that was a great draft. I

486
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Speaker 1: think it was a Tanne bomb draft. They got mangled

487
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Speaker 1: and Brick Ferguson in the same round. Now both those

488
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Speaker 1: guys are out the door. You can't keep Nick Mangold

489
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Speaker 1: at nine million dollars. I mean, missing half a season,

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Speaker 1: not playing, not playing well in the half of this

491
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Speaker 1: same level that he played. I'm sure they tried to

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Speaker 1: get him to take a paca, and I'm sure he's

493
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Speaker 1: at the point of his career that he's interested in

494
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Speaker 1: looking to see what's else is out there. And who

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Speaker 1: can blame him? Yeah, I I don't disagree with the move,

496
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Speaker 1: and I wish him the best because he was one

497
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Speaker 1: of my favorite jets. Moving on, this is interesting. Ravens

498
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Speaker 1: safety Matt Elam, a former first round pick uh in

499
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Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen, was arrested on three drug related charges

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Speaker 1: early Sunday morning in Miami. Uh Ellen was booked at

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Speaker 1: three am on charges of possession of more than twenty

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Speaker 1: grams of marijuana, possession with intent to sell or deliver,

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Speaker 1: and possession of controlled substance. He's being held on the

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Speaker 1: fifteen thousand, five hundred dollar bond. Uh He was initially

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Speaker 1: pulled over for reckless driving. Well, I mean, this guy's

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Speaker 1: a rich man. I would think for a first round pick,

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Speaker 1: even after he's just sitting free agency. Now, what are

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Speaker 1: you doing? Come back to us, Matt? How much is that?

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Speaker 1: I don't know how Grahams are How much is that's

510
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Speaker 1: more than a quarter pound? That's a lot. It's a lot.

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Speaker 1: It's insane, Matt. You've come back to us, Matt. This

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Speaker 1: is intent to sell. He's not going to just do it.

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Speaker 1: Two seventeen. Well, I don't know, and I'm not saying

514
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Speaker 1: that's any better, but I saw some things on Twitter.

515
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Speaker 1: People don't you know understand metric measurements. You're like, wow,

516
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Speaker 1: he's trying to be the new Sam Heard. No, Sam

517
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Speaker 1: Heard was like trying to be Marlow from the wire.

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Speaker 1: He was like a kingpin. This is just like this

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Speaker 1: sounds more like I'm gonna have a lot to bring

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Speaker 1: for all my friends at a party, or like there's

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Speaker 1: no reason he should be carrying around this much, but

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Speaker 1: you've got that much money at steak. I don't know. Well,

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Speaker 1: and the Ravens have basically said not in our plans

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Speaker 1: for next season, which is not at this point not

525
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: a surprise. He's also been a disappointment as a player

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Speaker 1: that is not in our plans. I've never heard of

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Speaker 1: a statement about a guy who's technically a free agent.

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Speaker 1: They just that's just like, well, because this is a

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Speaker 1: team that's a couple of years removed. People, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's not it's the stink isn't on them as much.

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Speaker 1: But there are a couple of years removed from a

532
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Speaker 1: massive PR disaster with an off the field issued late

533
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Speaker 1: in player, and they're probably as quick as they can

534
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Speaker 1: be too get rid of this. Wouldn't it wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: been cool if it was one grams. There was that movie. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean to a very group of people that would

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Speaker 1: would get that connection. Yet that was a different that

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Speaker 1: was a different substance, you know, twenty one. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: what was that booger sugar? Yeah? Essentially. Uh, let's see

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Speaker 1: what else. Let's get through the rest of this news. Uh.

541
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Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski Summer Bronk ground getting off to an early

542
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: start for whatever reason, he was at the Dayton of

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Speaker 1: five hundred as a sideline reporter. Why not? Uh? And

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Speaker 1: this is how it played out. They cut to Gronk

545
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Speaker 1: who was with a gaggle of what they were monster

546
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: energy girls. They were called. Let's hear how that exchange

547
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: went with Rob Gronkowski down that what's up? We got

548
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: another energy girl right here? We got Ashley. I did

549
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: a photo shoot. You at her. She's the best. Hey, Ashley,

550
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Speaker 1: what's your favorite speed limit out there? I hope it's

551
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: somewhere around seventy or something that I am the hardcore.

552
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: I like to go as fast as possible. I like

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Speaker 1: that answer back to your you didn't you're looking confused, Greg,

554
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: what's the closest number to seventy? I'm not confused. I

555
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: get the terrible joke. I'm confused why they would put

556
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Speaker 1: Gronkowski in a position to try to be funny. That's

557
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: just terrible. Do you think he's fed that? I think

558
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Speaker 1: he loves sixty. I think he thought that that was

559
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: an amazing joke. Yes, I agree. I think he thought

560
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: that that's what my face was. I don't think he

561
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: slept at night either, because he's like Ashley, like, you know,

562
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Speaker 1: we did a photo shoot together. How could you let

563
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: me down in a big spot? I have no words

564
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: for what we've just listened to. And finally, Mark, you

565
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: have no words there. But I'm gonna need some words

566
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Speaker 1: from you here because you are You are paid by

567
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: the NFL as an analyst, so people come to you

568
00:29:55,080 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: for the information. The Green Bay Packers have announced their

569
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Speaker 1: coaching staff for the season, and David Rye has been

570
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: appointed the team's offensive perimeter coach. For the fans out

571
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Speaker 1: there the layman, Can you break down what an offensive

572
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Speaker 1: perimeter coach does? Very excited about this signing. I think

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Speaker 1: it's a big it's a new frontier for the Packers. Chris,

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Speaker 1: I would like to hear why you what you think

575
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: he'll be Wow. I think he'll be monitoring the perimeter.

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00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: That was like Warren Baby like passing it off to

577
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Speaker 1: Fade Dunaway because he knew that the Oscar situation was

578
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Speaker 1: food bar that you just did the same thing. You're

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Speaker 1: Warren Baby. Congratulations. So the perimeter is everything outside the numbers, right?

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Speaker 1: So before I mean, that's what is it? A spread

581
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator on some time? Now you can't you can't

582
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: jump back in now if you do whatever. I want

583
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: to sit down. If you think about it, it's a

584
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Speaker 1: genius movie. Why is it a genius move? For for decades,

585
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Speaker 1: you know, century, almost every you know, we've only been

586
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Speaker 1: worried about interior. They're the first coach to say, no,

587
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: let's have a coach out there on the perimeter. All right,

588
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: now we're gonna get that part. I think it's like

589
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: someone needed, you know, Mike McCarthy's got a lot of

590
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: friends out there. Someone's like I need a job. He's like, oh, yeah,

591
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: we'll get you a job, and they'll come up with

592
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: a very fancy name for getting this fellow on the payroll.

593
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: So that's one way to look at I mean, not

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Speaker 1: nobody explain what it is. So well, he's been with

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00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: the Packers for three years. Uh, well you've ascended into

596
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: this role. He spent fifteen season as a coaching administrator.

597
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: Is an assistant offensive line coach. So obviously the man

598
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: has a really good football pedigree to be able to

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00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: be offensive line. What's more interior right than the offensive line?

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Speaker 1: And now he's moving out to the perimeter. Isn't that

601
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: the inverse of the perimeter? It's, well, he knows the enemy.

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00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: It's maybe it's a little bit like the NBA. You know,

603
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: everything in the NBA is all about three point shooting,

604
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: the perimeter, Packers thinking moneyball, perimeter money analysis, Greg, huge stretch.

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00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: All right, enough of that. That's what's happening in the

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00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: news now. Now that's what I really want to get

607
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: to is the centerpiece of today's show because Wesson and Greg,

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Speaker 1: the scientists. Every year they get together and they put

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00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: their heads together and they deliver something that the football

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Speaker 1: COGNISCENTI gets excited about it is the free agency one

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Speaker 1: oh one, salad baby. The two of you, uh work

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00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: up a list of one or a little bit more

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Speaker 1: and then you have um someone I'm an underling. Perhaps

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00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: take those two lists, combine them into one to make

615
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: your your free agency one on one. And this is

616
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: how you know Mark and Mark, I want you involved

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00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: in the segment too. I know this is about these

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00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: two signs, but we definitely should have a voice in

619
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Speaker 1: the room here and I need I need your support.

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Speaker 1: You know I'll support you. This is why you know

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Speaker 1: that the scientists have gotten a little bit of juice

622
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: within the the the universe of the football cognis sent

623
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Speaker 1: the It's because people write articles about the free agency

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00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: one on one different team. Websites pops up here and

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00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: there maybe ESPN of beat writer. Oh this is three

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis cults were on the NFL dot com top one

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Speaker 1: on one. You guys. That was that sweat equity that

628
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: you guys have poured into this over several years and

629
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Speaker 1: now it's paying off in a big spot. Hope sweat

630
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: equity replaces optics as the new buzzword. I mean it

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Speaker 1: paid off with that intro that you beautifully time, that's

632
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: when it all felt like it came to finishing. I

633
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Speaker 1: would say I timed it. I don't think of time

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Speaker 1: beautifully at all. But so here we are, and and

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Speaker 1: Mark and I are here as well. Almost to keep

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Speaker 1: you guys, first of all, keep your egos in check,

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Speaker 1: because you guys are pretty luck with that flying flying

638
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Speaker 1: high right now with all this press you're getting. Uh.

639
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Speaker 1: But what we're gonna do is we're gonna break out,

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Speaker 1: break down this list. And if you're listening at home, uh,

641
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Speaker 1: if you're driving, uh, don't do this. But if you're

642
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Speaker 1: you know, sitting on the train, or you're sitting in

643
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Speaker 1: the back seat of a car pool situation, or if

644
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Speaker 1: you're laying on your couch nude, potentially get your laptop

645
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Speaker 1: out or your portable uh device and pull up the

646
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Speaker 1: top one over which you can find nfl dot com

647
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Speaker 1: slash top free agents. Not the best vanity, you are

648
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Speaker 1: a top free agents. That's a new one. Yeah, I

649
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Speaker 1: wouldn't call that the best vanity. You know, these are

650
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Speaker 1: out of these decisions are I trust in the who

651
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Speaker 1: did make that executives making them? It was it was

652
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Speaker 1: not an underling by the way, you know putting keens

653
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Speaker 1: it's uh, you know most of this room's editor Ali

654
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Speaker 1: bon Puri. Yeah, great work with the original content team

655
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Speaker 1: here at NFL need called by you and underling. I

656
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Speaker 1: wasn't aware until okay, I thought there was Yeah, that

657
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: would seem wrong of you. Hopefully nobody remembers that. About

658
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: an hour before the show, I said, Ali, did you

659
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Speaker 1: do you know who actually tabulated this? And He's like

660
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Speaker 1: it was me. Alright, alright, anyway, Alieah, I love you. Um,

661
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Speaker 1: here we go. I think the best way to go

662
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Speaker 1: through this. First of all, let's just uh, we'll check

663
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Speaker 1: out the top ten. I'm just curious a top ten,

664
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Speaker 1: and then we'll kind of break it down and and

665
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: you've been blown to smith the rens from these franchise

666
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: tags already, all right? Who is who? All right, let's

667
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: in terms of who is still there, let's even draw

668
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: it out to fifteen or so. Who is not going

669
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Speaker 1: to be affected by the franchise tag situation? Most likely

670
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Speaker 1: as of the taping of this podcast, well, assuming Eric

671
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: Berry and Kirk Cousins get tagged, you know, they would

672
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Speaker 1: be on top of the list right now. But assuming

673
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Speaker 1: they get tagged. The top of the list is gonna

674
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Speaker 1: be Alshon Jeffrey. I think at number one, who's number one?

675
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: Last year when the dust settled, we're cleared? Was it

676
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: Malik Jackson? I think goes Malik Jackson didn't get the

677
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: most Yeah, definitely Campbell will be a big name. Brandon Williams,

678
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Speaker 1: who I don't think is gonna get tagged. Uh is

679
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Speaker 1: number three I think could get snacks type of money.

680
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Speaker 1: Then a couple of guys Melvin Ingram I think we'll

681
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: get tagged. Sounds like from rap sheet JPP got teg

682
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: donta high tower. We have to see how the Patriots

683
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: handle him. I think he'll get out there. Maybe he

684
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: gets the transition tag, which means he can sign a

685
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: contract which with another team. Then a J Boo Yer

686
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: of the Texans at cornerback, Stefan Gilmore, Kevin Zeitler Bengals guards.

687
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: It's already getting in the weeds here, and you know,

688
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: to mean Johnson jumping around around prior tps there, he'll

689
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Speaker 1: probably a tag you thank you um or maybe not.

690
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Speaker 1: I don't think so. It sounds like uh and one

691
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: jumping around a little bit here. But we talked about

692
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Speaker 1: Kenny Stills before the show when we're talking about the

693
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Speaker 1: kind of like what is what is the vibe right

694
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Speaker 1: now around the idea of free agency in this league

695
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Speaker 1: and why and how does Kenny Stills kind of uh

696
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Speaker 1: stand in as someone as someone that kind of personifies

697
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Speaker 1: what's going on right now. This is something that Greg

698
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: has been talking about for a few days now that

699
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: for everyone's got used to be that if you have

700
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Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty million and salary cap that was a

701
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: lot of salary cap space, you're gonna be a big

702
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: player in free agency, maybe control things. Now everybody's got

703
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Speaker 1: that much money. Some teams have sixty to seven million,

704
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: sixty to seven million, the Browns, I think you have

705
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: a hundred million. Everybody's got money to spend. And when

706
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Speaker 1: you hear the Miami Herald report that Kenny Stills has

707
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 1: a twelve million dollar a year market, it's crazy twelve

708
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Speaker 1: million dollars a year for a number three receiver who

709
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Speaker 1: is coming off a career year from a touchdown point

710
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: of view, But I don't think anybody Kenny Stills has

711
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: nobody's idea of a of an ideal deep threat, well,

712
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: a guy that the and I think he had potential,

713
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 1: like as a good role player, maybe a number two receiver,

714
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: but a guy that the Saints essentially gave up on.

715
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: And you know it's coming off. I guess his best season,

716
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: which had seven and twenty six yards. That's why this

717
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown signing. I think they saw the Alson Jeffrey move,

718
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: you know, getting to free agency and you know these

719
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: reports are out there about Kenny Stills and it's like,

720
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Speaker 1: we better signed Antonio Brown quick before things get crazy

721
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: because the amount of money, you said it, people get

722
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Speaker 1: worked up about who has the most cap. What's the

723
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Speaker 1: difference between forty million and eighty million. You've got enough.

724
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: More than half the league has more than thirty five million.

725
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 1: And that's before some of these roster cuts and everything

726
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: that's gonna go on in the next week. In terms of,

727
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: you know, saving some room and moving money around, Like

728
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: there's more than enough teams can pay who they want,

729
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: like just about twenty teams can do what they want.

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Speaker 1: That kind of on some level, I don't want to

731
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: say cheap in the salary cap, but the cap for

732
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: well disciplined teams that works in their favorites. They know

733
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: how to play the game. But there's so much money

734
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Speaker 1: you now, and the cap keeps on going up and

735
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 1: up and up. Uh, this isn't that kind of defeat

736
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Speaker 1: the purpose of like having like the Browns last year,

737
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna clear salary cap, we're gonna start over, and

738
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: they have a lot of money, but it's maybe not

739
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: as valuable because even teams that didn't have the same

740
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: outlook can spend on X, Y and Z. It's crazy

741
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: because a year ago, and I mean bad teams struggle

742
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: to resign their own players if they want to get

743
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: to market and go somewhere and win along with make

744
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: a lot of money. So that's a separate challenge. But

745
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: it was a year ago that teams like Cleveland we're saying, oh, well,

746
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: we're not going to invest in our own free agents,

747
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: were clearing cap room. And it feels three sixty five

748
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: days later, like a completely that's gone. I don't know

749
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Speaker 1: how many more teams, if this continues, are going to

750
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Speaker 1: even have to think that way. There's an excessive cash

751
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Speaker 1: and it's gonna lead to players being completely overpaid. Well,

752
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: and it's not good for football? Well what if I

753
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: don't think it's good for the players. But I mean

754
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: if they don't get that money. It goes to the owner, right, Like,

755
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: I don't have any problem with them making a lot.

756
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: What it does is, I think keep it's gonna make

757
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: this free agent period every year get more and more boring.

758
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: And I think we're seeing that this is not a

759
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: great list. At the top. It's fine. I think the

760
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: top twenty five is not too different than normal. But

761
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: it got it got bad in a hurry in terms

762
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: of finding starters because you gotta you gotta spend that money,

763
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Speaker 1: and the teams are gonna spend that money in June

764
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: and July and August on their own players. Like who

765
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: can the Jets fine to pay? Do they have some

766
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: people on their after they can pay whoever it is,

767
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: Just pay them, start paying. You don't have to make

768
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: those tough decisions where it's like wow, this name got

769
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: released and we're all stunned by it. There's gonna be

770
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: a lot less of that. I mean, the draft is

771
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: so important because if you now, if teams can pay

772
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: their own guys, they keep them on their team and

773
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: it's not like the maybe before free agency, a player

774
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: got stuck with a team forever and and they kind

775
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: of got screwed because of they're getting paid. So in

776
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: a way, everybody kind of wins because the team is

777
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: keeping their guys and able to spend money, and the

778
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: guys are getting paid. So maybe the NFL has it right.

779
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: And maybe all that talk about the players got banged

780
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: by the latest c b A that doesn't seem like

781
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: something that's a big story anymore. You know, a few

782
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: points here and they're going in the side of the owners,

783
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: but they're getting paid here. Maybe the Giants, I mean

784
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: it worked because the Giants signed good players that fit

785
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: their system. But maybe they knew what they were doing

786
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: last year when a handful of quality, starter type of

787
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 1: guys got out there. Maybe they just got lucky desperation,

788
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: but it worked. They were trying to save jobs. They

789
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: paid a premium, and I think those deals now don't

790
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: look so crazy, and I think it was smart because

791
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: that that quality of player. There's even fewer of them

792
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: this year. Thinking about the Raiders, Like the Raiders were

793
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: the team that was an ultimate cap hill just two

794
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: or three years ago, and now they have what forty

795
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: five million dollars. I mean, they have all the room

796
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: they could use, right, So let's go, you know, why

797
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: do we do this? Hey, let's go down to the

798
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: lab of the door. Let's go down there are in

799
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: the lab, in the trade lab. Listen, you guys have

800
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: a lot of Bunsen burners. Uh, a lot of beakers.

801
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: There's a phone and they're ringing off the hook for

802
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: some reason. Phone. Yeah, this is where Chris Westling and

803
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal do their work. And I have some questions

804
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: and and you guys can answer to them. And here's

805
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: the first one. And I found this interest because I

806
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: have in my hands. I was given permission to look

807
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: at both of your lists and where you guys differed.

808
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: I was curious what some players where you guys really different.

809
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: And the most amazing thing to me was, especially if

810
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: you look in the top twenty five, you guys are

811
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: really in the same ballpark and you do these independently. Uh.

812
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: Some of you guys had exact hits. Guys like uh

813
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: a J Booi a uh both that number twelve, Clays

814
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: Campbell's at seven and eight, al Sean Jeffrey is at six,

815
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 1: and h J p p eleven and ten. You guys

816
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: are in the ballpark, but not at all of them.

817
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: The good players, we pretty much agreed on the top

818
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: players more. Yeah, it's the bad players where we just

819
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: this one kind of hits, and this hits at um.

820
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: What a lot of people thought was really harsh criticism

821
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 1: from West directed to Grego. Quarterback Streets were talking, streets

822
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: talking about quarterback judgment because, uh, there are two quarterbacks,

823
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: and I'll start with Mike Lennon, who Greg had just

824
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: outside his top twenty five and I guess might end

825
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: up in the top twenty five when all these things

826
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: shake out with the franchise tags at Westling had him

827
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: all the way at sixty four. And I think Greg

828
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: We've talked about a little bit, but you think Lennon

829
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: to be at twenty six, that is somebody that is

830
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: a starter. You would think on a team in has

831
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 1: a good chance to start. Yeah, I think quarterback gets

832
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: a bump, There's no doubt because it's the most valuable position.

833
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: So let's look at the guys who are around on

834
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: our list, uh Riley Reath not anyone's you know, vision

835
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: of an All Pro tackle is Zach Brown, a guy

836
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: who we couldn't have cared less about a year ago

837
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: at this time, Larry Warford. I mean, these are not

838
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: like superstar players. There's guys that both of us. These

839
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: are guys you think they can come in and maybe

840
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: be a solid starter. Mike Glennan showed a lot of potential,

841
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: I thought in his first two years, and I watched

842
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: every one of his snaps back then. I remember his

843
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: rookie year. I went back to see where did he

844
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: end up in the year end QB index where I'm

845
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: watching every play I'm grading it. He was. He was

846
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: the twenty first, twenty second ranked quarterback as a rookie

847
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: with some terrible offensive coordinators. I thought he showed something,

848
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: some anticipation, some accuracy, some big arm. If you've got

849
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: a guy who can could possibly be a starting quarterback,

850
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy to put him that high.

851
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: As I mean, Mark, you and I both have skin

852
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: in the game with UH needing a quarterback. Would you

853
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: mind having Glennon as a whole the fort type guy.

854
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: I would not mind giving someone like Mike Glennon try out.

855
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm talking, I'm rooting for a team that's not had

856
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: good quarterback play and about a quarter of a century,

857
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: so why not. But I I'd have him somewhere in

858
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: between where where West and Greg do. I would say

859
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: this though, that there's been very little buzz around Mike

860
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: Glennon compared to what was an annual right around this

861
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: time for three or four years in a row where

862
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: Mike Glennon was dangled his trade bait. Every draft disappeared

863
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: for two years. I mean, he really did. Davis Winson

864
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: got drafted and he wasn't his. To be fair, he

865
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: wasn't as good in his second year. Now, granted, he

866
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: was on his third coordinator in two years, which is

867
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: tough for any young quarterback, including Jeff Tedford who had

868
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: like left after two games, in Marcus Arroyo who's barely

869
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: in the league, and Mike Sullivan who's never probably never

870
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: gonna get a coordinated job. It was a tough situation

871
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: and he didn't play that great in his second season,

872
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: which which I think is partly what sticks in West's cross. Well,

873
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: bad quarterbacks are easy to find. That's why I didn't

874
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: rank him high. And he's a bad quarterback. You can

875
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: take any film of any quarterback in the NFL and

876
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: find a game or two here and there where he

877
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: That was a season, though a rookie season. It was

878
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: like a lot in which he finished dead last in

879
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: drive success percentage in the NFL. And this is a

880
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: thing that we have disagreed over the years. I don't

881
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: like quarterbacks who don't move the sticks consistently. Mike Glennon

882
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: moves the sticks as inconsistently as any quarterback I've seen

883
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: in the past few years. To me, he's a rich

884
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: Man Zach Mettenberger, and I don't want that. I'd rather

885
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: have Brian Hoyer, who can moving offense. He's definitely risk here.

886
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 1: You're right, I'm giving a lot to potential. Over those

887
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: two years combined, he was ranked nineteenth in QBR. So

888
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: it's not like I'm crazy out on a limb here

889
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: with Glennon. And like we look at some of the

890
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: other guys on this list, it's like, I get, these

891
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 1: are guys that weren't that good. Like you had Matt

892
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: Khalil and Mike Remer's, you know, fifty and fifty one

893
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: on your list. I had the much those guys were

894
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: terrible tackles for the Mike Remers is a right tackle

895
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: who was forced to play out a position at left tackle,

896
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people disparage him because

897
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: Von Miller destroyed him in the super Bowl. But he

898
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: was a quality right tackle in two thousand uhift seasons.

899
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: All I mean is like, these are guys, these guys

900
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: who have had some big time struggles at tackle. I'm

901
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 1: gonna give Glennon a little chance. I think you should

902
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: be excited if the Jets get Glennon. It depends on this.

903
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: That's true. There's there's no ability as a problem. There's

904
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: a much more radioactive quarterback ranking if you click into

905
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: their individual rankings that I simply cannot get on board with.

906
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: I don't want to drive too deep. I mean we

907
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: you know we can go through the well. It's you

908
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: have Greg you have Geno Smith at number sixty five.

909
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: And I know that I know that you like Gino

910
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: Smith and that you see promising him West. He's not

911
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: even on your anywhere in your not even tempted. I

912
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: ranked Hunt twenty five. If I ranked two hundred, I

913
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: wouldn't have put Gino Smith on there. He's a bad

914
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: football player, and I think you'd have to ignore what

915
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: Gino Smith has been in the locker room to to

916
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: think sixty five too. I just would like to know

917
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: your reasoning. Is it potential? Again? I don't think his

918
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: tape is that bad as a pro. And yes, quarterbacks get,

919
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: especially young quarterbacks, get a little bit of a bump,

920
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: you know when we're we're talking about sixty like this

921
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: is where Cordurell Patterson is, who's a special teamer? He say,

922
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: is where NI? Right? I I don't think it's that

923
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: crazy to think of Gino Smith as a quality back

924
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: up with some potential. Smith in my locker room. He

925
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: had six point nine yards per tempting his career. We

926
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: haven't seen him in two years. The last time we

927
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: saw him, he played very well for a month. Maybe

928
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm maybe I'm hanging on to too much of that,

929
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: but I really think the New York media stink and

930
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: all the off field stuff is on him in a

931
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: way that it wouldn't be if he was on some

932
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: other team. You have them higher than Brian Hoyer. I

933
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: would take Coyer over Smith. I would take Hoyer over

934
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 1: Geno Smith too. In fact, that could end up happening

935
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: with the Jets as shore, the where they kind of

936
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 1: swap them and he ends up higher checks and balances.

937
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: It's like the government. It works out this well. I

938
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: knew West wasn't kind of right a little bit that's

939
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: what happened. Um. The problem Smith, by the way, is

940
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: that yes he's he's flashed uh moments, but he's also

941
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: games okay, month, Let's not go crazy here though. He's

942
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: a turnover machine, turnover machine who has had some issues

943
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: in the locker room. And he's a quarterback. You don't

944
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: want a quarterback with some locker room pop to him.

945
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: But like Jake Cutler East, I have I have a

946
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: hard time with that stuff. I wish we knew more,

947
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: like we don't know. I think there's a lot of

948
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that we don't know about. Maybe Hoyer might be

949
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: on that list that doesn't have the greatest reputation, and

950
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks that get maligned that actually their

951
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: teammates like and Frank And we don't know because we're

952
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: just here, Like not quarters have been punched. What we

953
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: do know just more than a lot of other quarterbacks

954
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: are bringing to the table in a negative way. I

955
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: think he worked, I I will say, I think he

956
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: lands in the right spot ultimately, Like I'm fine that

957
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: he nine on the list, you know, checks and balances,

958
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: just I mean, since you brought it up, I will say,

959
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,959
Speaker 1: when he did get his job broken, by teammate, which

960
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: again is a thing that happened. Really, the only came

961
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: to his defense was Brandon Marshall that said, so many

962
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: Marshall comes to everyone's defense. All right, let's move on.

963
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. So everybody's gonna get paid,

964
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: especially you would think in the top if you watch

965
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: the NFL network, to Smith that five minutes on the

966
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: NFL that work, he's a hot ticket. Don't give up. Uh,

967
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: Charley Castle, He's like, yeah, that boys, here's a hot ticket.

968
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna get paid, definitely in the higher reaches of

969
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: this list. But what player, gentleman and Mark as well,

970
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: do you think we'll get paid and the team we'll

971
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 1: regret that that gave out bundles of cash. A guy

972
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: that has the possibility, even though you put him kind

973
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: of in a good spot on this list. The top

974
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: fifty or so jumps out to you as a potential

975
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 1: bust candidate as a sign good question, one that pops

976
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: to my head just because I've seen the report. Or

977
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: Kenny Stills, first of all, if he gets twelve million

978
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: a year. But I like Nick Fairley. I think I

979
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: pushed pretty hard for Nick Fairley to be higher on

980
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: this list last year and he came through with a

981
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: good season. If he's getting ten million dollars a year,

982
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: which I read about in one New Orleans report, on

983
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 1: a multi year contract, I think that's the time that's

984
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: a player you'd be a little worried about giving that

985
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: sort of guaranteed. But I think he's a good player,

986
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: but that that's one where you could see him getting overpaid.

987
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with Nick Fairley. I

988
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: thought he was fatter than ever last year, and he was.

989
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: He had his best season at his fattest. What are

990
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: you gonna do with him? Yeah, he's one of those

991
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: guys like it's value, you know what I mean, Like

992
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: you get him on the year that they're cheap, I

993
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: don't want him on the year they're expensive. I think

994
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: there's risk to Terrell Fryar. I mean we you know

995
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: a lot. He showed a lot last year and there's

996
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: no taking away from his the commitment he put into

997
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: switching positions, which is so hard to do and to

998
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: play at the level he did for much of it.

999
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: But when you if you were going to hand it

1000
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: a multi year lucrative contract, it's to a player that

1001
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: does that has is short of a track record. A

1002
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: wide receiver is anyone that could get a multi year

1003
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: deal and be ranked this high on this list. My

1004
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: counterpoint to that is he gave some really good quarterbacks

1005
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: fits last year, a thousand yards season, and he's still

1006
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: kind of finding his way. You might be able to

1007
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: get him at a good value if you truly believe

1008
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 1: he could become all pro type if he reaches his peak. Yes,

1009
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: and then it's just I I think he's a mystery player.

1010
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: We don't know that it's going to translate to three

1011
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: seasons from now. I got one for you. Then you

1012
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: have at number thirteen on this list, Stephan Gilmore the Bills.

1013
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: Who you know he has a he's a name brand,

1014
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: But is he a guy that you want to if

1015
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: you pay Steven Gilmore big money in this free agency market,

1016
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: he's gonna be probably what in the top five cornerbacks

1017
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: in the league. And is that a good value by

1018
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: He's been inconsistent when when Rex Ryan got in Buffalo.

1019
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 1: When he landed there, he immediately singled out Stephan Gilmore

1020
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: as a lockdown cornerback, one of those guys who can

1021
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: trail wide receivers around the field, and I know Rex

1022
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: system places a lot of responsibility on cornerbacks, but he

1023
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: got exploited at times last year. I think he even

1024
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: got benched at one point. Stefan Gilmore did not played

1025
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: well all last season. I thought he was much better

1026
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: the year before. So it depends who you're getting, but

1027
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: he's got the tools. I think people maybe are a

1028
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: little too worried about a J. Boyer and Gilmore might

1029
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: be the more risky signs you have at twelve, and

1030
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: we that that was one where we differed very slightly.

1031
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 1: I think I put Gilmore one spot ahead of Booyer

1032
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: just because I do when I'm doing is important. I

1033
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: have no conviction in my pronunciation. All right, well we'll

1034
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: defer to Booty pretty sure, but go ahead, that's what

1035
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: I heard. I want to make sure I try to

1036
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: look at you. I think sometimes we do this in

1037
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: free agency. Happens to GM. You get paid off the

1038
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: previous year, but try to think about three years. I mean,

1039
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: this is this is the guy who's put up a

1040
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: lot of good film in his career, Stefan Gilmore. So

1041
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be that worried about paying him. I'd be

1042
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: more worried about the one year guys like Tony Jefferson

1043
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: was a great player for the Cardinals. You know who

1044
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: else was great? Like DJ Sweringer, who has been kicking

1045
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: around the league playing safety for the Cardinals. He kind

1046
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 1: of came out of nowhere, not a huge physical specimen,

1047
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: and because teams need safety so bad, like he could

1048
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: get a monster contract. He he pops the mind and

1049
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: the same conversation on the Simmons podcast with Lombardi, Lombardi

1050
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: would call him like r J. Booya just would just

1051
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: keep rolling. I get what you're saying. And he also

1052
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: seems like he could be a guy who's an ascending

1053
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: talent and still his room to improve. I think he's

1054
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: a guy who works really hard. I think they're both great.

1055
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 1: I had him in the both in the top twelve overall,

1056
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: just trying to pick between one between the other. Well,

1057
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 1: cornerback is one of the key positions obviously in football.

1058
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: Here's a question, what are in free agency when we

1059
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: look at this list, what are positions of strength where

1060
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 1: you there's a lot of depth where you can get

1061
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: value and there's there's a list to go down. If

1062
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: you miss this guy, you can still get this guy

1063
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 1: or this guy. And on the flip side, what are

1064
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: positions that are really light? I know, offensive lines one

1065
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: of them you cannot get. You can't get good tack well,

1066
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: it's it's very hard, but you can't get good guards.

1067
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: Kevin Zeitler of the Bengals is a good guard. T J.

1068
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: Lang of the Packers. Uh, you've got who's the guy

1069
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: from the Larry Warford from the Lions. You've got good guards.

1070
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 1: And I think defensive tackle is a strong Brandon Williams done,

1071
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: Terry po and Jonathan Hankins is really good for the

1072
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: Giants too. I think if you want a a run

1073
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: stuff eat defensive tackle, this is this is the year

1074
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: for you. He's gonna be hard to keep too. Now

1075
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: that I think of them paying all that money to JPP,

1076
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: they're paying it to Snacks. Can you pay all four

1077
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 1: guys on your line more than twelve million dollars? Alan

1078
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 1: Branch too from the Patriots, who was the monstrous guy

1079
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: in the middle of the defensive line. It hasn't allowed

1080
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 1: a ninety yard rusher in a long time. I don't

1081
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: get the Bengals allowing Kevin Zeitler needs to float away

1082
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: because that to me, if you want to flip side,

1083
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: look at value type of guys. I think, if you

1084
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: pay him what the market is for a very solid guard,

1085
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna get years of good play out of him.

1086
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: That's the kind of guy that you want to get

1087
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: in free agency. If in my book, it's weird they

1088
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: have this kind of AMMO that they don't pay guards,

1089
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: like that's just what they do that they don't They

1090
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: didn't pay Eric Steinbock, they didn't play Bobby Williams. Those

1091
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: are two guys I can think of that that left

1092
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, that's kind of just what they do well.

1093
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 1: I think after watching the other try to play tackle

1094
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: last year, maybe they have to move him inside the guard.

1095
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah, your buddy moving sticks and he says, this

1096
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: is a terrible tackle class. And so that is a

1097
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: that's a trouble. Like everyone needs attack offensive tackle right now,

1098
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: it's not available, like Riley Reef. There's another answer for

1099
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna get overpaid, probably just because he's

1100
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: a guy who's okay and he plays that position. I

1101
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: don't know what your team needs to tackles, That's what

1102
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I don't I can't get any relief

1103
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: in free agency or the draft. That's what I'm hearing

1104
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: from people. Jets quarterback, I mean, that's gonna be a

1105
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: blood best that again, like sometimes I'm coming Mark, I'm

1106
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 1: coming for that corner. I'd be happy you're this. This

1107
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: whole thing is just ridiculous. And then but then again

1108
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: sometimes they're like this class is loaded in plug and

1109
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: play ten years, start offensive lineman. Just watch Eric Fisher,

1110
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: Luke jokel Chance Warmack. Like it's like the Jets will

1111
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: draft someone in the fifth round that no one's heard

1112
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 1: of in this studio, which wouldn't be hard to do,

1113
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: and then and then and you know what, he'll play

1114
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: for five straight years. You never know anyway, Speaking of

1115
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: my Jets, Nick Mangold one, So you guys are into

1116
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: selling him a little bit. If he's healthy, signs with Yeah,

1117
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: he's thirty three years. Thirty three is not ancient for

1118
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: a center in the NFL. You don't see too many

1119
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: centers over thirty three. I'm not saying like a rich

1120
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: five year deal, but if he goes to a contender,

1121
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: don't be surprised. If he's having a really nice season,

1122
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: go do you could do a Chris Long w'll get

1123
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl ring, We'll do an Alex Max. This

1124
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: this Mangold thing brings up an interesting, at least to me,

1125
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: point of order. So Mangol gets cut on Saturday and

1126
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: I see that, Oh gotta make an adjustment to the

1127
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: top one hundred. It's going up Monday morning. West is

1128
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: off gallivantin around. That's one way to put it. That's

1129
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: South Coast with who knows, with who knows what with

1130
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: his you know, with a with his you know, lovely paramore,

1131
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: but also just meeting all sorts of cast of characters

1132
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: like it's a like it could be some sort of movie.

1133
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: Should I bug him about Nick Mangle there? Should I

1134
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: just make an executive decision and just throw him on

1135
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: you know where I was? I didn't bug him, Thank you.

1136
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: I Sigoa Mountain Brewery and ran into one of our

1137
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: podcast listeners. Andy was tending bar at this place. Nice

1138
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: guys sent me up, Send you guys a message, sent

1139
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: us a beer. It would be better I have. I

1140
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: have it and I will bring it into Yeah, that's aw. Yeah,

1141
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: we saw a clip of it. I do. I do

1142
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: like the fact that nineteen out of twenty podcast listeners

1143
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: that you've met and befriended our bartenders. Let's I mean,

1144
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: that's what you're going to have. Where else am I

1145
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: going to go? Right? Well? Who who else does West

1146
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: speak to next? Other than us? Like in the world. Yeah,

1147
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's like his brothers. I don't think I'm

1148
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: gonna run into museum curators probably who knows, Maybe we're

1149
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: huge in the museum curator industry. You never know that

1150
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: would necessitate me being in the museum to meet him

1151
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: or I do. I like the idea of of West

1152
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: a movie about West's weekend with his paramore, and I

1153
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: like it being called road Trip. And but there was

1154
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: a movie that came out about fifteen years with Tom

1155
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: Greene uh and some other people. Uh barely remember that movie.

1156
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: Who else was it? But they were going to it's

1157
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: a good college of all places. Yeah, breck and Meyer

1158
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: was involved, I believe anyway. But to change it, we'll

1159
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: put a slammer at the end road Trip with the slammer,

1160
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: if we could get into the Friday nights activities, then

1161
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: we can really unearth some interesting nuggets. I think that's

1162
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: we'll save that for the After Hours podcasting podcast. Skin

1163
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: Amax edition of the around the NFL podcast. I thought

1164
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: my original idea for what I thought, I'm unfair to

1165
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: say my original idea for what the movie would be

1166
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: called was was better. As much as I like your

1167
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: Sideways too, people love Franchises says yeah, always love people

1168
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: love franchise, People love frantise. Been a while since Sideways

1169
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: been out, and it's like, you just read then you're

1170
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: connecting it to Sideways, but you're yeah, you were were, Yeah,

1171
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: you're in the same area, but now it's it's West

1172
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: in the Paramore. It's a whole different things. Were like

1173
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: the writer of the director, anyone attached to the first incarnation,

1174
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: do not acknowledge this part two on any level. It's

1175
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: like American Psycho to starring Mia Kunis. It's a thing

1176
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: that exists. Yeah, Sideways one of my favorite movies too. Yeah,

1177
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: but what about the Slammer road Trip? I like both

1178
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: of them. I like that. To tell the truth, I'd

1179
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: accept either one. Okay, cool, alright, we got this. Wait, sorry,

1180
01:00:54,440 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: road Trip, Slammer, Colon Sideways to Winter or Sideways to

1181
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: Colin Road. But everyone's acting more of a title this way.

1182
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: You throw them off. You think it's something else, And oh, wait,

1183
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: it's sideways two at the end. Nobody, everyone's completely wrong,

1184
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: wrong sided market. Nobody puts the sequel number after and

1185
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: you put a cool after a slam. No, I think

1186
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: we could do what we want. These guys are hammered.

1187
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: They're driving up the coast. They put Colan's after slam.

1188
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: What the hell's going on out here? Graphically, because you

1189
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: could play with it when you're selling the movie. The

1190
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: colon has the line on top. That's a So it's

1191
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: a slammer and a colon at once. I love it.

1192
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: It works for me. Settled that. Here's some snap judgments, gentlemen,

1193
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: I would like you to make because these players are

1194
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: not and I'm saying snapped. I'm saying you gotta. I'm

1195
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 1: gonna go back and forth. You're gonna tell me where

1196
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: they are in the top one, one oh one? Uh

1197
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: if they end up making it? Jay Cutler, Greg mhm

1198
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: snap snap throwing it to West. Yeah, right ahead of

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01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,479
Speaker 1: Mike Glenn and probably everyone. You ask me, I'm gonna

1200
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: place right ahead of Yeah. No, I'm even higher than that.

1201
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm going let's go, let's go snap it up. Adrian Peterson,

1202
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: he'll be top ten. No, he will not be in

1203
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: my top third once these franchises. Okay, maybe I would

1204
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,479
Speaker 1: definitely have Adrian Peterson over Terrell Prior, so that would

1205
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: put him in the top fifteen for me. Doug Martin, oh,

1206
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: I think I think right above Mike Lennon. Uh. We

1207
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: have Eddie Lacey at thirty nine. I am definitely putting

1208
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: him below because the off field stuff. I gotta I

1209
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: gotta learn more what's going on. It seems like a

1210
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: really serious I'll tell you about it after the show.

1211
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall could help somebody. He's you have to rank

1212
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: him ahead of Kenny Britt, who is that thirty eight?

1213
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: I would say Brendan Marshall in the twenties. Pere Garson

1214
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: is twenty nine. I think I think I might put

1215
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall just the head of Pierre Grosan, even though

1216
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: he's a year a few years. It's a better player

1217
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: than That's what I'm Where's out his welcome everybody goes

1218
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: it does. And finally Jamal Charles, he's tricky. It's turning thirty.

1219
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: He has barely played in two years. We had a

1220
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: similar guy on the list last year named Arian Foster,

1221
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: who he put at number thirty, which ended up being

1222
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: way too high. We have Lottavius Murray at fifty seven.

1223
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not putting him above Murray or Blunt. The

1224
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: running backs definitely get discounted on this list a little bit.

1225
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: I mean he's probably in the sixties or seven. Oh no,

1226
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 1: I've taken him way ahead of Litavius Murray. I want

1227
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,919
Speaker 1: a good running back, and Jamal Charles might someday get

1228
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: that back. I don't know if Littavias Murray's ever going

1229
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: to be a good running fair. You could look at

1230
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: him as this year's Arian Foster where high upside. But

1231
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: you know what happens is it's easy to make that

1232
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: connection and then to a year later say boy, why

1233
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: didn't we see that coming? But it doesn't always work

1234
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: that way. Right now, he he, I could. I could

1235
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: be willing to be convinced. I think you're right because

1236
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: when he plays, and he's right, he's a great player.

1237
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: He's not that old um. All right, And again you

1238
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: can check all this out, And sorry if those weren't

1239
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: snappy enough for you. I but I got the info

1240
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: just looking for something like I wanted, like Adrian Peterson

1241
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: six four Jamal Charles. But it gives us something to

1242
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: work on for next year. Okay, good like watch watch

1243
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: watch how it works with Mark Sessler, J Cutler. That's

1244
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: what I was looking for. Uh and uh the final

1245
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: thing I have here as we uh spend a long

1246
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: time in the lab. It's musty down here, by the way,

1247
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: guys should uh you know, get getting maybe a filter

1248
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: and air filter down here. That's the magnesium. Which player

1249
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: in in the top twenty five named one player in

1250
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: the top twenty five? Um, you are the most concerned

1251
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: about a major because I am asking the questions. Don't

1252
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: ask questions back. I most concerned about a big whiff.

1253
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: And and I did look back at the list of

1254
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: just some examples Mary Williams at seven, You had brock

1255
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: Oswiler at thirteen, Ryan Fitzpatrick at three. There will be

1256
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: some here that turned out to be either bad bad

1257
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: signings by the team, but also maybe you guys evaluated

1258
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: them improperly, keeping it real who you worried about. Like

1259
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: you you said, I have to put this guy high

1260
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: in the list, but in the back of my mind,

1261
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: this guy might be struggling to even have a job

1262
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 1: next year. WHOA no, no, I meant like that, well,

1263
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: Riley Reef is twenty six. Not a sexy answer, because

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Speaker 1: what do I know about Riley Reef? Don Terry Poe

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Speaker 1: I could see being being he didn't look as explosive.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't used to be one of the most athletic

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Speaker 1: big man you'll see, and I think he he was

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Speaker 1: more of a two down guy last year as opposed

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Speaker 1: to a three day on defensive tackle. Mark Anything surprised

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Speaker 1: you on this list really jumped out at you, and

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Speaker 1: you said, what the heck? No, I'm gonna be honest.

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Speaker 1: I think of all the years that we've dug into

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Speaker 1: the free agent class that this is and it's no

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Speaker 1: reflection on the on the on the list that you

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Speaker 1: guys did. You get a great job with it. But

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Speaker 1: it's a low wattage group and we can we can

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Speaker 1: drum up excitement for you know what the top ten

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Speaker 1: will be a week from now, but it's free agencies

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Speaker 1: change this offseason, as we said at the top of

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Speaker 1: the segment. So not surprised outside of the fact that

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Speaker 1: it's less exciting than you'd think free agency would be.

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Speaker 1: Were you surprised that when uh Wes and Greg did

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Speaker 1: their NFL Network hit on this list. They wore suit

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Speaker 1: jackets in the podcast studio. I think they look sharp.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why why what we normally wear was

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Speaker 1: suddenly deemed not good enough because we because the next

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Speaker 1: day we're all wearing this stuff. Well, if anything, that's

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Speaker 1: I don't think who trove, who trot Where did the

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Speaker 1: decision come from? I guess, yeah, where did that come from?

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Speaker 1: Let's break that down. I think for me it comes

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Speaker 1: from an incredible insecurity about my work wardrobe when it

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Speaker 1: comes to being on film because of all the feedback

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Speaker 1: we've gotten over the years, and I think, um, I

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Speaker 1: probably I see NFL Networks, Greg Rosenthal and TV and

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Speaker 1: he's often wearing a jacket. So for me, my mind

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Speaker 1: just naturally went to Jack Rosenthal keep sending them in. Folks.

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Speaker 1: That was a good quick Yeah, I talked over and

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Speaker 1: I want to hear it aget Son that NFL Networks WO.

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Speaker 1: That was kind of like a deliverance. Yeah, very much.

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Speaker 1: That was awesome. Did that come from Tybee Island? Probably?

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Speaker 1: I was from Rick Harrick, He's from Missouri. That's spanky Q.

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Speaker 1: Well he should do some Jeff Bridge's voice over at

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Speaker 1: work or something. We we caught some heat by the way, Um,

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Speaker 1: we're talking to one of the um men with offices

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Speaker 1: here that works in the NFL Network division, and we

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Speaker 1: heard through the grapevine that one of the great higher

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Speaker 1: ups now former higher up in this company third floor, which,

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Speaker 1: as everyone knows if you listen to the show, we

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Speaker 1: are not popular figures or even really known figures. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd say so, he ironically was on the first floor.

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Speaker 1: Were the people you know making more us Um, we

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Speaker 1: were described as dweebs because we were headsets in the

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Speaker 1: studio that they look like they look like a bunch

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Speaker 1: of dweeves wearing the headsets. At one point there was

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Speaker 1: an anti headset movement then coming back from a little

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Speaker 1: the scene, no, that we don't need headsets to look

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Speaker 1: like dweeps. All right with that set that that your

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Speaker 1: talk about the NFL Network hit reminded me. We will

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Speaker 1: be on as a foursome. Yes we will Tuesday around

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Speaker 1: or up to the minute live one pm Pacific, four

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern. And that's right. I listed Pacific first. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of people out here Pacific needs to start

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Speaker 1: deserving some respect. Um. Okay, thank you everyone for listening

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Speaker 1: and again. The next time you hear from us will

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Speaker 1: be Thursday. The show will emanate uh from Indianapolis. We'll

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Speaker 1: have all six members. Very rare that you'll hear from

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Speaker 1: all six members of the of the writing team will

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Speaker 1: technically I'm no longer part of that writing team, but

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Speaker 1: you're gonna hear from all the five around the NFL

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Speaker 1: writers and then myself as well. Yeah, but I write

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Speaker 1: for the end around NFL dot Com slash end around.

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Speaker 1: But all five writers of the around the NFL team, myself,

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Speaker 1: we'll all be part of the podcast on Thursday, So

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Speaker 1: make sure uh you check that out where we'll be

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Speaker 1: breaking down those press conferences uh that happened every year

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Speaker 1: leading into the combine the coaches and the gms. A

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Speaker 1: lot of news always comes out of that, so check

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Speaker 1: that out. Hate to quibble, but your articles still do

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Speaker 1: appear under the the NFL section of the website. I'm

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Speaker 1: working on that. I'm gonna eliminate. I'm gonna eliminate that

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Speaker 1: if it's the last thing I do. No. I like

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Speaker 1: that it keeps me connected on some level of enterprise

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Speaker 1: and West, of course, is referring to NFL dot Com

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Speaker 1: slash around the NFL or nfl dot com slash news.

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Speaker 1: That's where you can read our stuff, so read it, okay,

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Speaker 1: and then next week Free Agency Week three shows. Also

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Speaker 1: go to Mark's author page and use the fight function

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Speaker 1: to find whatever you want. Good luck. Three shows through

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Speaker 1: the middle of June West, saving for the Fight podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's a scorn your all right, let's go home. This

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Speaker 1: is Dan Hanson's signing off. Four Quiet Storm, the Mailman,

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Speaker 1: the Boss, a new money behind the Glass till Thursday.

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Speaker 1: And indeed, yeah, you're a loser, Dan bloopers after every show.

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Speaker 1: That's fine, let's go