1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 2: Do I need a toll free number one nine nine, Diddy, 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 2: meliss you. Now, over one hundred sex assault victims have 4 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: been vetted, according to a lawyer, after over three thousand 5 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 2: people have contacted lawyers regarding alleged abuse at the hands 6 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: of Sean Comb's. This as disturbing claims emerging tonight regarding 7 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: sex assault on miners, miners trying to break into showbiz. 8 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: Good evening, I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank 9 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: you for being with us. Did he boohoo? Sean Puffy 10 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: Combs whining incessantly refusing jails. Dude, Oh no, it's not 11 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: a plant parm Nancy, it's chicken parm. 12 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: No, don't care. 13 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: I am I supposed to care that Diddy's got a 14 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: t t into a metal urinal. I don't care, don't care, 15 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: don't care, bs, Bs, I'm sorry. 16 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: Bs. 17 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: The day will come. 18 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 4: When we will name names other than Seaw Colmes, and 19 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 4: there's a lot of names. 20 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: It's a long list already. Because of nature of this case. 21 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 4: We're gonna make damn sure, damn sure that we're right 22 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 4: before we do that. But the names that we're going 23 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 4: to name assuming that our investigators confirm and corroborate what 24 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 4: we've been told. Are names that will shock you. 25 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,279 Speaker 2: There you see lawyer Tony Busby, he's got a lot 26 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: to say. He's been fielding calls. I guess he has set. 27 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: Up an eight hundred number. If he hasn't, he needs to. 28 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: Did he molest you? 29 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: Because from what we are hearing, there have been over 30 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: three thousand people coming forward. Over one hundred of them 31 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: have been vetted in are filing lawsuits against Shawn Combs. 32 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 2: But there you have him talking about celebs. How we're 33 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 2: going to be shocked, you know what, after everything I've 34 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: heard regarding Shawn Combs. And again he's innocent until proven 35 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: guilty in a court of law. I don't know how 36 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: much more shocked I could be. But from those many, 37 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: many alleged victims, we are learning more and more, and 38 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: for the state federal prosecutors, this is a much more 39 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 2: refined modus operendi method of operation MO that we are 40 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: learning from all of these alleged victims. And again, yes, 41 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: it's titillating. 42 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: It's interesting to some people. 43 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 2: I guess about celebs, We've seen all the pictures over 44 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: and over. Hillary let's see here Trump, Obama, Ashton Kutcher. 45 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: I mean it just goes on and on and on 46 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: about celebs. 47 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: Oprah for Pete's sake, at a part party, at some 48 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: event with comes. 49 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: Does that make them yuilty? 50 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: No? And I think a lot is out there about 51 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: celebs because the media believes the general population wants to 52 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: hear about celebrities. 53 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: You know what I want to hear about, Lynnshaw. I 54 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: want to hear about the truth. 55 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 5: Waghen Well, the truth is puppy parties, dirty Diddy. We 56 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 5: heard these rumors for years. We had people come forth. 57 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 5: We are in the middle in New York City, and 58 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 5: I would say, you must go to the authorities, you 59 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 5: must tell law enforcement. We are going back to the 60 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 5: nineties Nancy, and nobody would do it. Everybody was afraid. 61 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 5: I want to focus not on the celebrities and influencers. 62 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 5: I want to focus on the miners and all of 63 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 5: these victims, miners that is exploitation. 64 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: Sean is as young allegedly Lynshaw. By the way, Lynnshaw, 65 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: executive director Lyn's Warriors, committed to ending sexploitation in human trafficking. 66 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: Alex West joining me. 67 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: An investigative reporter with the mirror, Alex, I guess you 68 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: of everyone on the panel has seen the video ad 69 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: nauseam of Ashton Kushner on some type of a swing 70 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: going over and over a pool at one of Combs's 71 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: white parties where everybody has to dress in white or 72 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: you can't get in. Have you seen that video of Kushner? Yes, 73 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: I don't care about that. I don't care about him 74 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: unless he is a defendant or a victim, or he's in. 75 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: A new movie, all I care about. 76 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: But as of right now, this endless parade of celebrity 77 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: montages at Combs's parties, that means nothing. I want to 78 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: get through the heart of what's going on with this 79 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: federal case. Because the FAS has been very clear they're 80 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: still investigating, Alex. 81 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 6: We can't fully full apart the celebrity right, example of 82 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 6: Justin Bieber Right, he was with Diddy, he was in 83 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 6: Ditty's custody. We can't pretend that that's not true. We 84 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 6: don't know what happened to Justin. We don't know if 85 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 6: he's a victim. He hasn't said anything yet. But we 86 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 6: can't forget that there are some celebrities who were under 87 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 6: Diddy's Kara as minors. 88 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: Who he did mentor so. 89 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 6: I think we can't fully stop talking about the celebrity 90 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 6: aspect of this either. 91 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: I agree Alex West, but seeing Ashton Kushner swing back 92 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: and forth on a homemade swing over Ditty's pool means 93 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: nothing to me. Actually, what does mean something to me 94 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: is this, Listen, the. 95 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 4: Biggest secret in the entertainment industry, it really wasn't a 96 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 4: secret at all, has. 97 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 3: Finally been revealed to the world. 98 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: The wall of silence has now been broken and victims 99 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 4: are coming forward. Our team has had at this point 100 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 4: more than three thousand and two hundred and eighty five 101 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 4: individuals contact us with people claiming people claiming to have 102 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 4: been victimized by Sean Khan. 103 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: Did I just hear that number correctly? 104 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 2: I don't think I need a hearing aid, but I 105 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: definitely heard the number. Three thousand, two hundred and eighty 106 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: five people have come forward claiming that Sean Combs in 107 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 2: some way molested or attacked them. 108 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: Three thousand plus is that real? 109 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: They've got to be vetted how many of those are 110 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: real and how many of those are just jumping on 111 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: a bandwagon to doctor Leslie Dobson and joining me renowned 112 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: clinical forensic psychologists. You can find her a doctor Leslie 113 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: Doobson dot com, her author The friend Cleanse. Doctor Leslie, 114 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. I want to address 115 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 2: something that Attorney Tony Busby just said, and very shortly 116 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: we're going to be joined by Ariel Mitchell Kid, who 117 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: is representing a new alleged victim of Combs. 118 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: On this same issue. 119 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: We hear Buzzby talking about the wall of silence coming down. 120 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: As you know, doctor. 121 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: Leslie, I have prosecuted a lot of rape cases, including 122 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: many serial rapists, and he's right, there is a wall 123 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: of silence where victims don't want to come forward. Why 124 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: especially with a purp and alleged purp like Diddy. 125 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: I think there is. 126 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 7: So much danger in coming forward. There's shame to these individuals. 127 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 7: There's shame they fear amongst their family, but there are 128 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 7: viable threats of death to them and their families. And 129 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 7: I've been made aware of the threats by the bodyguards 130 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 7: of many of these celebrities involved. 131 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: And they have numbers put on their heads. 132 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: So it is no joke. 133 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 7: If you come forward in a civil lawsuit and you 134 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,559 Speaker 7: settle or you go to court. 135 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. 136 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 7: You're still at risk of losing your life. 137 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: Over three thousand plus victims. Yeah, you better set up 138 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: that total free number listen. 139 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 4: After vetting, we now represent one hundred and twenty individuals 140 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 4: who tend to brand civil claims in civil court. 141 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: Against Sean Diddy Holmes, as well. 142 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 4: As claims against many other individuals and entities that we 143 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 4: will name as defendants as we file these individual cases. 144 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 4: There are sixty males and sixty females. Twenty five of 145 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 4: the one hundred and twenty individuals who are plaintiffs in 146 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 4: these cases. 147 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 3: Remind us, at the time of the acts complained of them, 148 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 3: our youngest victim at the time of. 149 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 4: The occurrence was nine years old. We have an individual 150 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 4: who was fourteen years old. We have one who is fifteen. 151 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 2: An alleged victim as young as nine years old. A 152 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: lot of people would find that very hard to believe, 153 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: but wait until you hear the circumstances surrounding the claim 154 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 2: of the nine year old. And now other miners are 155 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: coming forward, one claiming he just quit the whole business 156 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: and lives in regret that he left the industry after 157 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 2: an alleged. 158 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: Incident with Sean comes. 159 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 2: Brian Fitzgibbons joining me, Director Operations, USPA Nationwide Security, Brian Fitzgibbons. 160 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: We have to vet these victims. And I'll tell you why. 161 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: If you have one person who's lying and trying to 162 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: get money and it didn't really happen, that casts a 163 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: pall a tint over every other victim that's going to 164 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: be named. It can one liar can ruin the whole case, 165 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: you know, the whole One bad apple ruin the whole bunch. 166 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. How do you vet people? 167 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: And remember when you're vetting them, they could very well 168 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: be a legitimate victim of Sean Combs. So how do 169 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: you vet them? Keeping in mind you could be dealing 170 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: with a sex attack victim. 171 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 8: Absolutely, Nancy, and these law firms, these professional law firms, 172 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 8: will engage with highly specialized private investigators that understand how 173 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 8: to conduct these interviews appropriately. Given that you know, out 174 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 8: of those three and eighty five, Hey, as far as 175 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 8: we know, a majority of them could be actual victims, 176 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 8: and as you said, some of them could be out 177 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 8: just for money and be falsifying this information. Now, in 178 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 8: our experience, that's something that we quickly identify. As these 179 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 8: interviews start. 180 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: The law firm will have a mountain. 181 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 8: Of information to vet the validity of the statements being made. 182 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: Well, one way that you can vet victims is you look. 183 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: You can look at what we call in prosecution and outcry. 184 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 2: Did they say anything about it to any one at 185 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: the time? Those are called outcry witnesses. Okay, listen to this. 186 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 4: More than fifty of the victims file reports reported this 187 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 4: conduct to either the authorities, that is, the police or 188 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 4: two hospitals. 189 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: We're in the. 190 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 9: Process of collecting with our team assistants medical records reports 191 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 9: that were made to the authorities. 192 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 4: And I've already said that some of the individuals in 193 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 4: this group did in fact talk to the FBI. 194 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 195 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: And joining us now special guest Ariel Mitchell Kidd, a 196 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: very high profile civil litigation attorney who is representing one 197 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: client so far in a case against Sean Combs, and 198 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 2: I'd like to point out that she also is familiar 199 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: with the attempted sale of ditty tapes. I can only 200 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 2: assume their pornographic in nature. Ariel Mitchell Kid, thank you 201 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: for being with us. Your client filed a police report 202 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: at the time of the incident, but was afraid to 203 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 2: put Sean Combs's name on the report what. 204 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 10: Happened, so at the time when she was able to 205 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 10: make her hearing escape from her assault, she ran down 206 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 10: the street and a neighbor took her in and that's 207 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 10: how she was able to contact the police. 208 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: At that time, she. 209 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 10: Was very afraid to name mister Colmbs, mainly because this 210 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 10: was at the height of his career. She felt crazy 211 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 10: even telling the neighbor who it was and feeling like 212 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 10: no one. 213 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: Would believe her. 214 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 10: And I too feel the same way because in twenty 215 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 10: twenty one, this is a case that's actually still pending 216 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 10: in Florida courts. Mister Colmbs is named as a defendant 217 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 10: in a lawsuit that I have with Trey Songs. Also 218 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 10: in twenty twenty two, mister Holmes was his home brother 219 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 10: was the location of two separate sexual assaults by young 220 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 10: ladies by Chris Brown and in twenty twenty one. In 221 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 10: twenty twenty two, I personally was sounding the alarm about 222 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 10: mister Holmes. 223 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: That there was something was not right that. 224 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 10: These acts, these sexual assaults kept occurring at his home 225 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 10: and no one wanted to listen to me. No one 226 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 10: wanted to believe me, And then I had individuals, including 227 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 10: a celebrity chef and other high profile celebrities and politicians 228 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 10: in Miami who were warning me that my life was 229 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 10: in danger if I persisted in these claims against mister Colbs. 230 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 10: So I truly believe that all of these individuals who 231 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 10: are now coming forward are doing so now because now 232 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 10: finally they're feeling safe that they can make these claims 233 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 10: without fear of harm or retribution. 234 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: You know, in another universe, I would have thought Ariel did. 235 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: That's far fetched. 236 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 2: But now that I know, so many other women are 237 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: saying I was threatened. I was threatened that a pornographic 238 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: tape of me would be revealed. I was threatened my 239 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: career would end all sorts of threats if they came 240 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: out against Shawn Comes. It's not far fetched at all 241 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: what you're saying. Could you tell me about what your 242 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: client says happens the night she says Shawn Comes sex 243 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: assaulted her. 244 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 10: Yes, So what she told me was she was with 245 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 10: a friend and the friend gets a phone call from 246 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 10: mister Colmes asking him what he was doing and if 247 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 10: he could come over and he said, sure, I'm just 248 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 10: having at home, having some friends over. Mister Colbs came 249 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 10: with Christino Quorn, who we know mister Colmbs to say 250 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 10: that that sits right hand woman. He shouted her out 251 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 10: and at BT speech where he named Cassie at the 252 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 10: end of the video for staying with him through the 253 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 10: dark times. My client has identified miss Korm as an 254 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 10: additional person who will be named as a defendant in 255 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 10: our lawsuit. 256 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: Who was present at the time. 257 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 10: She said Miss Korm and mister Colmbs were making jokes 258 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 10: about sex trafficking her, about how she would be a 259 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 10: good person to take to the parties and that a 260 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 10: lot of men would like her, and eventually she was giving. 261 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 10: Everybody started drinking. She was giving a drink, and she 262 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 10: said she took one sip and knew something was off 263 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 10: and stopped drinking and still and started to feel woozy, 264 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 10: and then mister Combs assaulted her with an adamant object 265 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 10: which y'all name and our complaint which is coming soon. 266 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 10: Then instructed another gentleman who was there to penetrate her 267 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 10: with his penis while mister Colmbs was in the corner 268 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 10: watching and pleasuring himself. Okay, Ariel. 269 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: Guys, you're hearing Ariel Mitchell Kidd, who is representing yet 270 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: another claimant against Combs. For those of you that want 271 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 2: to buy in to the photos of him drinking champagne 272 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: and pouring it on people, and his four coats and 273 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: his diamond necklaces in his gold chains, bla blah. 274 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: You know, the devil can dress up in a tuxedo too. 275 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: Does that mean anything to me? No, it does not. 276 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: What your client is saying predates by years the federal indictment. 277 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 2: What is she clairvoyant? She is saying she was invited 278 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: to a party. She is saying that there was talk 279 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: of trafficking her, in other words, farming her out to 280 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: other men that would enjoy meeting her. At that point, 281 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: Combs sits back and watches other people molest her as 282 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: he masturbates. That's exactly what the victims say in the 283 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: federal indetment. 284 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: This is highly significant. Absolutely. 285 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 10: I've also been vetting several individuals since I have entered 286 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 10: into this for Ray, so I knew this to be occurring. 287 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 10: I had no doubt in my mind who mister Combs 288 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 10: is and was and continues to be. And it is 289 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 10: only not that person anymore because he's behind bars. 290 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 8: Holmes allegedly planned and controlled the sex performances, which he called. 291 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: Freak off freakoffs, freak offs, freak offs, freakoffs. Sean Puffy 292 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: Combes aka Diddy aka p Diddy, I'll see you in court. 293 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: In addition to a lawyer claiming this is buzzby claiming 294 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: that over one thousand weight excuse me, over three thousand. 295 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: Sorry didty Ooh? I know how you hate an imperfection? 296 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: Over three thousand alleged victims have come forward. He has 297 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: vetted that down to over one hundred lawsuits against Diddy. 298 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: Hey, you better hurry. 299 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: He's going to run out of money at some point. 300 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: That said, when you see Busby speaking, I've been saying, hey, 301 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: we need a total free number. 302 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: Nine nine nine. Did he molest you? Okay? 303 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 2: He has a toll free number right behind him. You 304 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: normally only see total free numbers of that nature when 305 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 2: you've got a class action, which means typically hundreds, maybe 306 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: thousands of people joining together in one claim against a 307 00:18:54,920 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: major entity like a cell phone carrier or a company. 308 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 2: There is an eight hundred number for victims to call 309 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: if they have been molested by Shaan Combs or at 310 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: one of his parties. 311 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: Did you just hear Ariel Mitchell kid. 312 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 2: Her client this? Her client says, this happened years ago? 313 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 2: Where did he sits back and watches and masturbates while 314 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: he instructs somebody else to rape her? And can I 315 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: show you one more thing? Can I see that picture? 316 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: Liz? Does nobody else notice this? There is a party? Okay? 317 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 1: Hold that picture? There's a party going on. 318 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 2: Does nobody notice a woman is up there without pants on? 319 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: Am I the only one? 320 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 2: Like? Just imagine you go to a Christmas party and 321 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 2: you look over and there's a naked lady And what 322 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: is that wrapped around her waist? Is that some sort 323 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 2: of is she about to take flight over the audience? 324 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: But naked? That's what I want to know. 325 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: And everybody's acting like this is normal for there to 326 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 2: be a naked lady at the party. 327 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: Okay, it's not normal. 328 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: Aside from Seawan Combs's parties, I want to talk about 329 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 2: the specter that has just been raised in the last 330 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: seventy two hours, the specter of child victims. 331 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 4: This individual, who was nine years old at the time, 332 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 4: was taken to a audition in New York City with 333 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 4: Bad Boy Records. Other boys were there to audition as well. 334 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 4: All of them were trying to land a record deal. 335 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 4: All of them were miners. This individual was sexually abused 336 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 4: allegedly by Seawan Comes and. 337 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: Several other people at the studio. 338 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 4: In the promise to both his parents and to him himself. 339 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: Of getting a record deal and more. 340 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 4: Another minder told allegedly by Sean Holmes that. 341 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 3: He would make him a sharp, but he needed a 342 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 3: visit with him in private valley away from his parents. 343 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 4: Once they were in a private area, allegedly, mister Combs 344 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 4: made the victim perform oral sex upon him. 345 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: Alex West and joining me investigative reporter with the Mirror. 346 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 2: Alex again, thank you for being with us. What do 347 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: we know about claims? Now, multiple claims, not just one 348 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: then child, but multiple claims that the mo again the 349 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 2: same when it comes to children. They are interviewed by 350 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 2: Combs for a record deal and they and giving him 351 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: oral six. 352 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: What do you know about these claims? 353 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, so the alleged grooming is a tactic that you 354 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 6: know Diddy is allegedly used on adult adults as well. 355 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 6: The promises of fame have come up over and over again, 356 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 6: and that's the same tactics that he allegedly used with children. 357 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 6: I mean, twenty five miners are coming forward, and you know, 358 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 6: all of them. 359 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: Had very similar stories. 360 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 6: They're taken allegedly to studios, They're offered contracts, they are 361 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 6: asked to perform oral sex, They're asked to be a 362 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 6: part of these things. And you know, I look forward 363 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 6: to reading some of those complaints when they come out 364 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 6: and seeing what those you know, repetitive things are and 365 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 6: what we're seeing. But you know, the stories line up 366 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 6: with the adult victims as well. Same thing using his 367 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 6: power to get these individuals to allegedly perform different acts 368 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 6: on him. 369 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: We're with him. 370 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: And there's more you've heard about than nine year old 371 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 2: than an other minor listened to this. 372 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 4: An individual fifteen years old at the time, flown to 373 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 4: New York City to attend the party, was drugged and 374 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 4: then taken into a private room allegedly in the presence 375 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 4: of mister Cohns, where this female individual minor was raped, 376 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 4: and then other individuals took turns. Right or a very 377 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 4: young man who told us at the hands of Sean 378 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 4: did he Combs and his friends in an effort to 379 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 4: try to sign a record deal. This was kind of 380 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 4: what he was told he would have to do had 381 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 4: he not been in Hower. I feel like I could 382 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 4: have been something great. I quit the industry because of 383 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 4: what Seawan Combs did to. 384 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: Me to Lynshaw, founder and director of Lynn's Warriors, committed 385 00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 2: to ending sexual exploitation, especially children. If there had been 386 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 2: one isolated claim, I would have been skeptical because it 387 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 2: wouldn't fit into Combs's of targeting adults. But now that 388 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: I know that there are twenty five similar claims regarding 389 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: abuse on children that cannot be ignored, be damned, Nancy. 390 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 5: We have always heard the rumors or people have reported 391 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 5: to me that these things were going on right here 392 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 5: in New York City, at his studio, in his offices. 393 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 5: But I have to ask you, if we were hearing 394 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 5: about this, these stories we're hearing right now are lining 395 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 5: up with everything, the adults and the miners. 396 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: I want to ask. 397 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 5: Everybody where, has everybody been there? 398 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: Will report me? 399 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 5: Some spoke to the FBI hospital emergency rooms, which we 400 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 5: always say to victims, get reports down, call nine one 401 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 5: one right away. Go to a hospital emergency room. They're 402 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 5: open twenty four seven three sixty five. 403 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: I want to ask. 404 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 5: Everybody, where has everybody been? And when it comes to children, 405 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 5: you have to ask where did these children come from? 406 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 5: What about their parents or caretaker? Who are these children? 407 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 5: Other adults in the room, why would they watch this 408 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 5: allow this? 409 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: This is so complicit. 410 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 5: There are so many people involved, and we have to 411 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 5: keep our thoughts on that as well. I don't want 412 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 5: this to turn into another Jeffrey Epstein case where it 413 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 5: just kind of poof and goes away. We have to 414 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 5: stay on this because so many people are complicit in this, 415 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 5: and I'm tired of hearing about if anything good comes 416 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 5: of this, this whole dirty diddy thing is if the 417 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 5: American public, the public can wake up and see what 418 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 5: is going on, and you don't allow your child alone 419 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 5: at any point anything to do with show business going 420 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 5: anywhere when it seems too good to be true, it 421 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 5: is too good to be true. But I have to ask, 422 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 5: where is everybody protecting these kids? Obviously everybody failed at 423 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 5: their jobs. I want answers. Don't you doesn't everybody here 424 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 5: on the panel? Why could this go on since the nineties. 425 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 5: I'm not understanding that when people have been reporting. 426 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 11: This music mogul and rap star Sean Diddy. Combs hit 427 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 11: with lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit, but attorneys claim no 428 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 11: matter how many suits are filed, Combs is innocent. 429 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: Well, if the attorney really wants to win the case, 430 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 2: you better not have any more sit downs with Harvey Levin, 431 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: the founder of TMZ, who's also a lawyer. In addition 432 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 2: to another hearing, another bond hearing, This says bond hearing 433 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: number three that's coming up. We think they'll probably argue 434 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: it on October the ninth. Don't know that that could 435 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 2: just be a status update, but I guarantee you the 436 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 2: lawyers we'll try to get him out of jail again. 437 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: Two new lawyers have been named to the case. One 438 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: is a trial lawyer, a very well known trial lawyer, 439 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 2: and the other is an appellate lawyer. 440 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: What does that mean appeals? That means you argue the law. 441 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: Why would Sean Combs need an appellate lawyer now there's 442 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: not even a conviction to appeal. That is because this 443 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: new lawyer, the appeals lawyer, is an expert in the 444 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: technicalities of the black and white letter of the law. 445 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 2: To try and beat this case at on a legal front, 446 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 2: not a factual front. So that's what's happening. 447 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: Now. 448 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 2: Another important thing that's happening that we heard from Tony Busby, 449 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: who has the big eight. 450 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: Hundred number behind him. 451 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 2: As opposed to our nine nine did did he molest you? 452 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 2: All of these women and men coming forward, including twenty 453 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: five miners, have a similar story. That's critical in the 454 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: practice of law because these witnesses don't know each other, 455 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 2: yet their stories are startlingly similar. What are we learning 456 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 2: about the alleged modus operandi method of operation of Sean 457 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 2: Diddy comes listen? 458 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 3: Typically, the victim is lured into a situation where she 459 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: or she is given or dreaming. 460 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 9: Typically that drink reported by these victims is apparently laced 461 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 9: with something. Once that drink takes effect, the perpetrators perform 462 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 9: all kinds of sexual acts on the victims, many times 463 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 9: passing him or her around. 464 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: As other people watch and enjoy the show, and then 465 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 3: leave the. 466 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 9: Victim of shamed, confused, injured, and wondering what happened. 467 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 3: When the victim reaches out, he or she is told 468 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: not to say anything. 469 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 4: Sometimes there are threats of all physical violence or find repercussions. 470 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: Body long too doctor Leslie Dobson, joining US clinical forensics 471 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: psychologists at dodtor Lesliedobson dot com. Also author doctor Leslie 472 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: one Well. Many characteristics, but one repeating theme. A recurring 473 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 2: theme is how Combs aka Ditty aka Puff Puff Daddy, Puffy. 474 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: Love Sean Love Come. It is whatever puts on a show. 475 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: He's like the puppeteer and the victim is the puppet 476 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 2: with a parade of typically men abusing the victim putting 477 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 2: on a show. 478 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: For Combs, what is that. 479 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 7: He's got a style right, that's his grooming and he 480 00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 7: enjoys these high levels of stimulation and risk. For somebody 481 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 7: who specializes in high risk sexual violence, he is one 482 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 7: of the most dangerous people I have ever seen in 483 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 7: my career. 484 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very curious what you make of claims that 485 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 2: he is motivated by. 486 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: Some sort of voyeurism. 487 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: It's not him always performing the rape on the victim. 488 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: He is very often, if not mostly, sitting back and 489 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: watching somebody else attack the victim. 490 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 7: There's an element of sadism. 491 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 3: He is enjoying the pain. 492 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 7: And voyeurism is when an individual is sexually stimulated by 493 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 7: watching another person engage in sex and then when you 494 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 7: bring in that element. They are stimulated because of the 495 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 7: sadistic nature involved in watching the sex. 496 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: Out crime stories with Nancy Grace. 497 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 2: So to Ariel Mitchell Kid now representing another alleged victim 498 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: of Sean Comes, what I'm getting at with doctor Leslie Dobson. 499 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: You heard her definition of voyeurism. 500 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: If this is Comes's addiction, that would explain the alleged 501 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: sale of ditty tapes pornographic tapes, how. 502 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: Does that fit in with your client? 503 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 10: Well, my client doesn't know, at least as of now, 504 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 10: if anything was recorded, at least in this scenario, it 505 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 10: wasn't at one of his homes, like the stills of 506 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 10: the videotape that I saw, which is purported to be 507 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 10: at mister Colmbs, one of mister Colmbs's estates in Atlanta, Georgia. 508 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 10: So I've actually been told by the individual who wanted 509 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 10: me to sell the one tape that they had three tapes. 510 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 2: And though everything, I got to hear that more slowly, 511 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 2: Ariel Mitch Kid joining us, So you have seen steals 512 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: of a porn tape with Combs in it. 513 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 10: Yes, And part of the reason I did not want 514 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 10: to engage in any seale or have anything to do 515 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 10: with it is because they could possibly be a minor 516 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 10: in that videotape. It could be chow pornography, and I 517 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 10: have a lot of extensive experience with dealing with cases 518 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 10: with child pornography, and I know where my duties are. 519 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 10: I cannot determine if this person is seventeen, eighteen, nineteen twenty, 520 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 10: or twenty one, but I did see the steals in 521 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 10: an effort to authenticate that there actually was a tape. 522 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 12: The FEDS are still gathering evidence against Sean Dinny Holmes, 523 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 12: according to TMZ, and anonymous male sex worker has met 524 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 12: with agents to hand over a Freakoff tape. The escort 525 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 12: was reportedly flown from Atlanta to Miami to participate in 526 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 12: the freak off and even detailed the drugs Combs used 527 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 12: to apply the woman he had sex with in the video. 528 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 12: This as FEDS are still on the hunt for private 529 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 12: medics who hooked up victims to ivs after the hours 530 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 12: or days long sex assaults. 531 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 2: And that is where the entire criminal enterprise alleged in 532 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: the federal indictment. That's what they're talking about now. We 533 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 2: understand that the FEDS are on the hunt for medics 534 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 2: that applied or helped facilitate IV drug drips to victims 535 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: to recuperate after freak coughs. 536 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: I want to. 537 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,959 Speaker 2: Circle back to Aerol Mitchell Kid regarding the porn tape 538 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: she says she saw, then also go back to Fitzgibbons 539 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: regarding the potential of an ai A false tape. But Ariel, 540 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 2: this is not the first we've heard of porn tapes 541 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 2: being circulated. Porn tapes as they relate to Combs, There's 542 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: got to be a treasure trove of porn tapes. 543 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: If he videoed all of these freak offs, I. 544 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 10: Would believe that there is a considering. I know of 545 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 10: one source who purports to have three tapes, one of 546 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 10: which I have seen a steal of. They did invite 547 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 10: me to come to Beverly Hills and view all three 548 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 10: of the tapes if I was so inclined to take 549 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 10: this responsibility on with which I declined, which is how 550 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 10: we got to the point of me seeing the stills 551 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 10: of the tape. As I'm an attorney, once I see 552 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 10: these certain things, I would have a duty not only 553 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 10: to report these things, but be called upon as a witness, 554 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 10: as an officer of the court. 555 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: Well, you're absolutely right, Ariel Mitchell. 556 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 2: Kid in the stills that you saw of one of 557 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 2: the tapes, what did you observe? 558 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 10: I observed mister Colmbs and another extremely high profile individual 559 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 10: engaged in homosexual activities. 560 00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 2: Alex West, joining us from the mirror. That is a 561 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 2: whole another line of potential indictment, a whole another avenue 562 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 2: the sale or the manufacture or distribution dissemination of porn. 563 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 2: And that's a very loose term. I mean, all the 564 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 2: US Supreme Court will say about porn is we know 565 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: it when we see it. Okay, just because people are 566 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 2: naked having sex does not necessarily mean a crime. However, 567 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 2: if you're videoing someone without their knowledge and then disseminating that, 568 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 2: that's a whole other animal. What can you tell us 569 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 2: about people peddling ditty porn tapes? 570 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, what I do know is while that could be 571 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 6: another indictment, could be another charge or revenge porn. This 572 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 6: has come up over and over again in the civil 573 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 6: lawsuits and these victims. One of the big things you're 574 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 6: asking for is not just financial compensation, but for those 575 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 6: tapes to be destroyed. They found it affects their life, 576 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 6: their livelihood. They've said that in center to plenty of people. 577 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 6: They've heard from other people that their videos have been 578 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 6: sent to them without their knowledge, and they find out 579 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 6: years later. Some of these people are a legend that 580 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 6: their assault took place years ago, and they've worked on it, 581 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 6: they've tried to heal from that, and then it comes 582 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 6: back up years later when they find out that did 583 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 6: he allegedly sent us to other people, and now they 584 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 6: have to start that trauma process all over again. And 585 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 6: that's what they're saying in these civil lawsuits. So could 586 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 6: it be an avenue for investigators to look into, Absolutely, 587 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 6: and they have some place to start with the civil lawsuits. 588 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 4: Another individual, twenty six at the time of the occurrence, 589 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 4: was picked up by allegedly by mister Comes and several 590 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 4: other people in a black suv from the airport, was 591 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 4: given one drink in the suv and then literally woke 592 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 4: up the next day not knowing what had happened, but 593 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 4: with pain and damage to both her agina and her age. 594 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, when a jury hears that they're going 595 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 2: to do a backflip. That's Tony Busby, attorney speaking about 596 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 2: over three thousand people coming forward He's called it down 597 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 2: to over one hundred that he believes are legitimate sex 598 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 2: claim sex assault claims against Combs straight out to Brian 599 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 2: Fitzgibbons joining US Direct Operations, USPA Nationwide Security. How can 600 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 2: I make sure that these videos we're talking about, pornographic 601 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 2: in nature are legit? How can I tell if they've 602 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 2: been doctored, if they've been edited, if they've been spliced together, 603 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 2: if they're not AI? 604 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: How do you do that? 605 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 8: This is going to be very difficult for the untrained 606 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 8: eye to detect an AI video At this point. The 607 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 8: deep faith technologies have advanced in leaps and bounds over 608 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 8: the last few years. But the good news is for 609 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 8: attorneys and prosecutors the technology is even more advanced on 610 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 8: the other side to identify this. As long as attorneys 611 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,919 Speaker 8: and prosecutors are using the right technologies, they can run 612 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 8: these videos through a systems of scans that will tell 613 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 8: you that it's been faked. 614 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 2: While there are allegations and this is by Tony Busby. 615 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: That there will be celebrities named in these lawsuits. 616 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 2: You heard Ariel Mitchell Kidd state that she observed a 617 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 2: celebrity in one of these tapes. Lynn Shaw, celeb or 618 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 2: no celeb. There are a lot more victims out. 619 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 5: There, So what we have to say about this again, 620 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,280 Speaker 5: I always want to put the focus on the victim, 621 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 5: this survivor. I have to talk to women and girls. 622 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 5: It's called violence in America, rape against women, and they 623 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 5: will be asking me I know about this case. They 624 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 5: want to know why he was allowed and all the 625 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 5: people around him to do this and get away with 626 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 5: it for decades. So we want to put the focus 627 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 5: on that survivor, on that trauma, and how we can 628 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 5: intervene and help them. Because they tell me they walk 629 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 5: in a supermarket, a drug store, they think people are 630 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 5: staring at them. It goes on all their lives. And 631 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 5: now we're talking about kids miners, which we always heard 632 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 5: about SEESAM child sexual abuse material. This is horrendous. Again, 633 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 5: I want to remind everybody, let this be a lesson 634 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 5: that this goes on. No celebrity culture, society is worth this. 635 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 5: And where again, we're all the other participants people, He 636 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 5: did not do this alone. Where was everybody when all 637 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 5: of these people and especially children were involved. It's disgusting, 638 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 5: it's bizarre. Call out the National Guard. We need vetting, 639 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 5: We need to prove that he did all of this 640 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 5: with all his gang and put him away forever. 641 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 2: Imagine living through a brutal sex assault where your videoed 642 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 2: and you have no recollection of it, and then you're 643 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 2: presented with the video and that hangs over your head. 644 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 2: Is my husband going to find out, my boyfriend, my 645 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 2: children is going to go online? 646 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: Living with that the rest of your life? 647 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 2: When you were too afraid to come forward to start with, 648 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 2: you heard Ariel Mitchell kid Her client ran from Diddy's home, 649 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 2: according to her, and banged on a neighbor's door to 650 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 2: get help and filed a police report, but was too 651 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 2: afraid to say two words. Sean comes, Well, we're not 652 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 2: afraid anymore. You know what we've got on our banner 653 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 2: Tonight N nine Diddy molest you. There is an actual 654 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 2: toll free hotline number at this point eight hundred two 655 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,439 Speaker 2: zero zero seven four seven four. 656 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: Can you imagine. 657 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 2: One person has a toll free number for all the 658 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 2: alleged victims to call. 659 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: That's where we're at. 660 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 2: And believe you mean the Feds ain't sitting back not 661 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 2: paying attention. And remember an American hero, Sergeant Robert Blaine 662 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 2: Swartz Oklahoma County Sheriffs Sorts shot and killed in the 663 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 2: line of duty. A US Army Vet Sergeant, Schwartz served 664 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 2: over twenty five years with Oklahoma Sheriffs. Survived by his 665 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 2: mom Phyllis. Don't you know she's so proud of him, 666 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 2: son Austin, and grandchildren Reagan and Rowan American hero Sergeant 667 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 2: Robert Blaine Swartz. 668 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: End of Watch. 669 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 2: Thank you to all of our guests being with us, 670 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 2: but especially to you for joining us. 671 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye friend.