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Speaker 5: The John Nnick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and

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Speaker 5: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 6: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 4: I can't get.

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Speaker 7: Enough of it.

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Speaker 6: Time job, I don't believe there are a couple of

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Speaker 6: absolutely self involved bullshit artist.

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Speaker 5: You're your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 7: Who good to be with you, Good to have that

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Speaker 7: DMX backdrop. I've been hitting that DMX so hard since

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Speaker 7: the uh, the news of his passing over the weekend.

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Speaker 7: What an absolute legend. I mean, it takes me back

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Speaker 7: to the nineteen nineties and Metros Boston, Ken Flow driving around,

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Speaker 7: smoke coming out the windows. Just kidding, but everything else

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Speaker 7: is true, man, that dude man DMX. You know, one

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Speaker 7: of the things that's hard, I think is as you

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Speaker 7: get older, you know, all the people around you, you know,

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Speaker 7: start to pass away. And this one hit pretty heavy.

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Speaker 7: So a little tribute to DMX off the top. How

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Speaker 7: are you this morning, kid?

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Speaker 8: I'm doing good man, dog dude, it's my man.

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Speaker 9: And then all right, right, how.

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Speaker 7: About what I'm saying.

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Speaker 8: I mean, also, it's just I was a huge DMX fan.

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Speaker 10: But also you.

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Speaker 8: Know, so many MMA fighters have come out to his

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Speaker 8: music and it's kind of synonymous. At this point, he

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Speaker 8: was part of a wasn't he part of like a

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Speaker 8: hip hop MMA show at one point on BT he

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Speaker 8: may have been, but I know he was a fan

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Speaker 8: and loved the fight game and what was one of

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Speaker 8: the realist rappers ever. There was a story about DMX

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Speaker 8: where for his I believe for his like interview in

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Speaker 8: front of Russell Simmons, right, he had his jaw broken

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Speaker 8: and he had his jaw wired shut, right and he

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Speaker 8: did a freestyle for Russell Simmons with his jaw wired

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Speaker 8: ship of course he did like that's just that's I

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Speaker 8: remember hearing that story way back in the day. I

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Speaker 8: an impact on me. I'm like, this dude wanted to

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Speaker 8: chase his dreams. He was a real dude. He wrapped

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Speaker 8: about real shit and uh he was gangster to the end, man.

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Speaker 7: No doubt about it. And you know who sounds good

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Speaker 7: after DMX? Almost no one? Right, we certainly aren't sound

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Speaker 7: good following DMX. If I'm not mistaken. He voiced the

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Speaker 7: pay per view open for UFC one ninety six. So

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Speaker 7: maybe you want to go on UFC Fight Pass and

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Speaker 7: see if I'm accurate about that. But it's good to

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Speaker 7: have you with us? It is Monday, April twelfth, twenty

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Speaker 7: twenty one, episode two ninety six of the Florian and

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Speaker 7: Nannik Podcast. What do you think about that? For a

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Speaker 10: We've been saying Anak and Floria for so long.

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Speaker 8: It doesn't. It doesn't. It's like, you know, you don't

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Speaker 8: say pepper and salt. You say salt and pepper for whatever.

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Speaker 7: You know what I mean, it's just for whatever reason.

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Speaker 7: So dating to MMA Live in two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 7: fucking end, right. Uh, But it was always you know,

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Speaker 7: with us, And he says, uh, John, I don't know

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Speaker 7: two hundred and ninety six episodes in but it's good

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Speaker 7: to have you with us. We have a lot to

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Speaker 7: Night victory versus Holland. I don't know where Ray Longo is.

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Speaker 7: was a big week for Team Anak and Ian Parker,

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Speaker 7: so we'll see if ken Flow has anything to say

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Speaker 7: about that in the main event challenge. As we spin

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Speaker 7: things forward to UFC Fight Night, Whitaker versus Gastolon. But

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Speaker 7: the weekend. I would like to start with Mackenzie durn

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Speaker 7: who's actually my new favorite fighter, but let us start

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Speaker 7: with Marvin Vittori fifty to forty four times three unanimous

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Speaker 7: felt as though Marvin was going to be able to

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Speaker 7: and largely his physicality, his strength was too much. And

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Speaker 7: this is the path of least resistance, in the path

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Speaker 7: What were your thoughts on the main event.

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Speaker 8: Listen, I thought Marv Vittori did take that path of

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Speaker 8: And I think that that was proven correct. He was

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Speaker 8: exposing the lack of wrestling of Kevin Holland. And I think,

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Speaker 8: you know, he really did benefit from watching him in

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Speaker 8: the Derek ruds And fight. Kevin Holland is billed as

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Speaker 8: this Brazilian jujitsu black belt, and you know, against your

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Speaker 8: typical fighter, Kevin Holland might do well on the ground,

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Speaker 8: but Marvin Victory his size, his awareness, his grounded pound,

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Speaker 8: I think Victory physically is going to be a problem

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Speaker 8: think that for Victory, I was looking for more composure

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Speaker 10: Where I thought it was a little bit scary for him.

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Speaker 8: I think that's a testament to both Kevin Holland's reach

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Speaker 8: and to Kevin Holland striking a bit. But for Vittori,

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Speaker 8: I thought it was a solid performance. He did exactly

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Speaker 8: and it was it was largely a dominant performance.

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Speaker 7: Would there be any pardon for Marvin Vittori insofar as

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Speaker 7: he was preparing for a south pawd Darren Till for

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Speaker 7: I think you assessed him perfectly right, and certainly watching

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Speaker 7: half al Cordero in the corner, you know when there

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Speaker 7: were a few moments of trepidation on the feed and

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Speaker 7: he got that big takedown, you saw the corner sort

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Speaker 7: of exhale, But I do believe that, you know, he

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Speaker 7: sit here and pardon the guy, but I do think

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Speaker 7: it was a hard late pivot for him as all.

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Speaker 7: I think.

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Speaker 8: I think that's always difficult.

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Speaker 10: John.

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Speaker 8: I think that's a good point. However, when I look

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Speaker 8: I hate coming up with these hypotheticals, right because the

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Speaker 8: Darren Hill fight didn't happen. However, he would have really

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Speaker 8: struggled in that fight against Dared Hill. Yeah, for a

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Speaker 8: I also think that Darren Hill, Darren Hill is a

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Speaker 10: Vittori has a great chan and he's tough.

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Speaker 8: However, I think it would have been a tough matchup

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Speaker 8: But you're right, it's always difficult anytime you need you know,

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Speaker 7: And for Marvin Vittori, right this doesn't have people necessarily

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Speaker 7: I don't know that he maximized this showcase per se.

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Speaker 7: doesn't finish Sadik Yusuf. It almost undercuts himself. In the

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Speaker 7: But I want to stay on this first before we

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Speaker 7: get to all Allan. So Kevin Holland has said a

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Speaker 7: One thing he said Kempflow is that you know, I'm

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Speaker 7: I'm not so sure that he submits Marvin Vattori in

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Speaker 7: that because I don't know. I think that Marvin Vattori

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Speaker 7: would make things pretty difficult. And as a Brazilian jiu

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Speaker 8: Yeah, listen, I think a couple of things. Right, we

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Speaker 8: I experienced that issue. You know, when I was training

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Speaker 8: I would get the better. So that doesn't that that's

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Speaker 8: not a good thing. That doesn't mean that I'm great.

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Speaker 8: It means that I need to be pushed, I need

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Speaker 8: Put a thirty pound backpack on it, right, and go

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Speaker 7: So I'm looking at the UFC midweight rankings, and again

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Speaker 7: all praise to Marvin Vattori. Right like the Italian Dream

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Speaker 7: He doesn't go away, So israelada A Soni is the

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Speaker 8: All right, Sorry, I just wanted I wanted to give

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Speaker 10: Trying and he had that warrior spirit. He was fighting

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Speaker 7: I agree, and I think it's important that you that

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Speaker 8: So Arnold did a great job of landing the bigger strike,

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Speaker 10: Just brilliant stuff there from Arnold Allen.

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Speaker 7: A lot of different stylistic challenges above her in the

435
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,879
Speaker 7: top ten at one hundred and fifteen pounds, Tatiana Suarez

436
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 7: would make for a fascinating fight, but Mackenzie Dern is

437
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,119
Speaker 7: on the fast track. Can flow your thoughts on another

438
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,919
Speaker 7: submission win for the submission Queen Mackenzie Dern, you know, when.

439
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 8: You put into the context of what Nina Answroff has

440
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 8: accomplished and the kind of fighter that she is, I

441
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 8: think I think it elevates that win that much more

442
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,119
Speaker 8: for Mackenzie Dern. Nina is not an easy girl to

443
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 8: put away. She is as tough as they come very

444
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 8: good grappler. She is tough from the long range. When

445
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 8: it comes to striking as well, She's a smart fighter,

446
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 8: and Mackenzie Dern was able to take all of that

447
00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 8: away from her. And it shows also the level that

448
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 8: she has on the ground. Again, it wasn't a huge

449
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 8: surprise as far as what she was able to do

450
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 8: on the ground. She's gonna be able to do that

451
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 8: to anyone in the division, Let's be honest. On the ground,

452
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 8: he's just gonna be able to do that. I don't

453
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 8: care if you're Valentina Chipchenko.

454
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,439
Speaker 10: Or rosnaomi Unis, or you.

455
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 8: Know Janguay Lee, Jeang Wui Lee. She's gonna mess you

456
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 8: up on the ground. She's just that good. She's I

457
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 8: guess you could say she's the best jiu jitsu black

458
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 8: belt to ever compete in the women's division. I mean,

459
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 8: you look at her pedigree and what she's accomplished. She

460
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 8: is extremely impressive. She is improving her striking, she's improving

461
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 8: her wrestling, and I think if she's able to get

462
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 8: some more experience I would like to slow that down

463
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 8: a little bit, that trajectory in some ways, because I

464
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 8: think experience will be her best friend. Moving forward, I'd

465
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 8: like to see her striking get a little better. I'd

466
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 8: like to see your wrestling get a little bit better.

467
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 8: But she's on the right path, man, And again she

468
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 8: gets into the ground against anybody in that division, she's

469
00:21:58,560 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 8: going to win, period.

470
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Speaker 7: And she is in that Jackata Damien my conversation right

471
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 7: in terms of the most world class Brazilian jiu jitsu

472
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 7: practitioners to ever cross into the UFC, and I'm gonna

473
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 7: say this sort of to make Kenflo laugh and hopefully

474
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 7: he does. Right, but you know, she'll go over to

475
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 7: the American top team corner with the greatest of all

476
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 7: time Amanda Nunez and one of the greatest jiu jitsu

477
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 7: coaches in the MMA, s Base Bahoop are right there

478
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 7: with an athlete in Nina Nunez who knows exactly how

479
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 7: to defend all these positions. Right, So go right over

480
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 7: into the corner and submit Nina in front of all

481
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 7: you've got people, and those are some of my favorite

482
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Speaker 7: people in the world. But she is unbelievable. And in

483
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 7: terms of the fast track, like I think that's the

484
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 7: only point on which we disagree, Like Brian Ortega is

485
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 7: a good point of comparison, and I think it was

486
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Speaker 7: my friend, our friend Derek Thompson from our UFC crew

487
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 7: who brought this up to me, maybe after the fact,

488
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 7: but you know, Brian Ortega in his division, he kind

489
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 7: of had to develop elite striking in hands right to

490
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 7: go with the whole jiu jitsu package if he was

491
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 7: going to become champion. And he's going to get another

492
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 7: opportunity to become champion. You know, Mackenzie Dern at one

493
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 7: hundred and fifteen pounds the deepest women's vision right, the

494
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 7: hands do have to close that gap. But I don't

495
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 7: know that she needs to get as good at striking

496
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 7: as Brian Ortega does necessarily to become champion. But I

497
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 7: do believe that having only had eleven months or ten

498
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 7: months with Jason Pirillo, like wait till she's had three

499
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 7: years with her with him as her striking coach, I'm

500
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 7: really excited to see where she can come.

501
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Speaker 10: John.

502
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Speaker 8: I think that's a valid point. The only thing I

503
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 8: would add is that, you know, and that's why I

504
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 8: think it's imperative that she gets better with her wrestling,

505
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 8: you know, being able to get it to the mat

506
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 8: and especially getting on top of anyone in that division.

507
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 8: They're done, They're done. Mackenzie will submit you. It's like

508
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 8: playing Wayne Gretzky back in the day. You can't stop them,

509
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 8: you can only hope to contain. That's McKenzie Dern on

510
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 8: the ground.

511
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

512
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 7: Unbelievable, so fun to watch, and I just love the

513
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 7: way she has embraced everything about mixed martial arts now

514
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 7: because that wasn't always the case. And it almost seems

515
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 7: as though she needed a child to surface this type

516
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 7: of motivation.

517
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Speaker 10: It's true, she looks a tremendous way.

518
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 9: She was ripped.

519
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 8: That's the buff I've ever seen her physically, spiritually, she

520
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 8: was just in a great place. You could see it.

521
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 7: And now she's putting training camp on top of training

522
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 7: life and the results really speaks to that. But I

523
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 7: remember one of my first fighter meetings with Mackenzie Dern

524
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 7: and she said, you know, I'm hoping to win the

525
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 7: UFC Shrawey title, defend the belt, and then go back

526
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 7: to the jiu jitsu world. And I do believe that

527
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 7: maybe those goals have changed. We didn't have a fighter

528
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 7: meeting with her this time around. We did have a

529
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 7: media scrum and we've spoken to her quite a bit,

530
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 7: but I don't know. I think those goals might have changed,

531
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 7: and I'd be very interested to see her right now

532
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 7: against anybody in the top five. And she is so focused,

533
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 7: hyper focused in the best of ways on the division

534
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 7: that she kept talking about all these big strawet fights

535
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 7: that are about to happen. Of course, the title fight

536
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 7: coming up in two weeks, and then Jan Chauna and

537
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 7: Carla as Barza in May. So Mackenzie Dearn is going

538
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 7: to factor prominently in that equation and couldn't happen to

539
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 7: a better young woman. Speaking of good things happening to

540
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 7: good people, how about Daniel d Rodriguez by unanimous decision

541
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 7: over Platinum Mike Perry. Daniel Rodriguez had less than two

542
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,239
Speaker 7: weeks to prepare for his first four UFC fights, right,

543
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 7: so two weeks for some ten days for others full

544
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 7: training camp. Physically can flow looked like a totally different

545
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 7: guy in terms of the tightness of his physique. And

546
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,959
Speaker 7: I don't know, I think he's a special striker. Can

547
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 7: lean on some Eddie Bravo Brazilian jiu jitsu credentials if

548
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 7: need be as well, And I don't know, I really

549
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 7: like d Rod four and one out of the shooting

550
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 7: here in the UFC Welterweight division.

551
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 8: Your thoughts, you know, Listen, I thought that he had

552
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 8: an excellent performance against Mike Perry, who is a very

553
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 8: dangerous fighter, and he utilized the right weapons at the

554
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 8: right time. That job was pumping and that left hand,

555
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 8: you know, was tremendous as well. Hurt Perry on multiple occasions,

556
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 8: and he just proved to be the more technical, more

557
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 8: well rounded fighter out there, did a good job of

558
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 8: keeping his composure when he got taken down, was able

559
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 8: to get back to his feet, And yeah, I think

560
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 8: d Rod is someone to watch, and he's someone that

561
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 8: is improving and is really looking like he's a student

562
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 8: of the game. He's not just out there to brawl.

563
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 8: I think if he brawled more, he would have had

564
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 8: much more trouble against Perry. But he was smart, he

565
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 8: was composed. He knew that he was the longer striker

566
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 8: and he used it to his advantage. And you know,

567
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 8: Mike Perry really took a lot of damage out there.

568
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 8: But man, I thought it was a really solid performance

569
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 8: firm d Run.

570
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 7: So I talked to my friend, says Carnero from MMA

571
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 7: Masters the night before the Mike Perry fight, and they

572
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 7: had a conflict in South Florida that they could not miss.

573
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 7: So that's why Daniel Valverti and says Or Cornero were

574
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 7: not there to corner Mike Perry. But they said so

575
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 7: many nice things about him. Kenflow, that he's attended every

576
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 7: group class he's like teaching. I mean, he's really been

577
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 7: motivated by his son, not onlike Mackenzie Durham by her daughter.

578
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 7: And I think the fact that he was one hundred

579
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 7: and seventy pounds and not one seventy one is a

580
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 7: little bit telling. But he is seven and eight now

581
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 7: in the UFC is platinum Mike Perry, so he has

582
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 7: backed himself into a corner. Now Kenny essentially has a

583
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 7: must win in his next fight, which is the last

584
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 7: fight on his contract. What do you think about Mike

585
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 7: Perry real quick? I mean, some would say he's undersized

586
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 7: for this division and there are gonna be some really tough,

587
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 7: long challenges for him at welter wait. I like that

588
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 7: he's willingly mixing it up with the wrestling, and I

589
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 7: do think the more time he spends at MMA Masters

590
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 7: with Colby Covington and those guys the better. But I

591
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 7: don't know. Man, Perry's really discouraged, you know, he said

592
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 7: on social media. I used to be good, and he's

593
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 7: having a hard time finding the stroke these days.

594
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 10: You know, it can be fixed. I truly believe that.

595
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 8: I think that Mike Perry is as tough as they come.

596
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 8: I think that, you know, having a child can definitely

597
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 8: keep you focused. I think he needs to stay with

598
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 8: that focus and continued being, continued to be a student

599
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 8: of the game. His listen. His biggest problem, like so

600
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 8: many UFC fighters out there, is he needs to fix

601
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 8: his footwork and his defensive capabilities. That is always going

602
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 8: to be his weakness. If he doesn't fix that, he's

603
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 8: too flat footed. He comes, you know, in a direct

604
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 8: straight line into people's punches, which is not advisable even

605
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 8: if you have a superhuman chin.

606
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 10: Like Mike Perry.

607
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 8: But yeah, so I'd like to see him create more angles.

608
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 8: I'd like to see him a little bit more bouncy

609
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 8: on his feet. If he's able to fix his forework,

610
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 8: I think he's going to make huge changes in his

611
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 8: game and can be a completely different fighter.

612
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 7: I hope so, I hope so I don't think I

613
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 7: have a great chin. This guy Brian Foster at Gettysburg

614
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 7: College back in the day. He didn't even hit me

615
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 7: that hard and I did not take that that shocker. Well,

616
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 7: I don't think Longo's in the lobby yet. Could you

617
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 7: imagine if we now spend like ten minutes on SELETI

618
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 7: and Gamrot and Longo's waiting, the dude would absolutely kill me.

619
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 7: All right, So Joe Seleci over Jim Miller in a

620
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 7: prelim fight by unanimous decision, So one of the three

621
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 7: judges had at thirty to twenty seven SELECTI. So how

622
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 7: you don't give Jim Miller that first round when he

623
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 7: outgrappled Seleci to that like it's an effective grappling round.

624
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 7: It's like, what are you fucking watching out there? Go ahead?

625
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 8: Please?

626
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 9: Yeah?

627
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 8: How do you how do you give Jim Miller? How

628
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 8: do you give SELECTI the first round but then give

629
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 8: SELECTI the second to not give SELECTI the sect.

630
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 9: You know what I mean?

631
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 8: Like, how does that happen where you can give SELECTI

632
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 8: both the first and the second because SELECTI did the

633
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 8: exact same thing that Miller did in the first.

634
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 7: So I don't know, so two of the three judges

635
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 7: had it right two to one for giving him.

636
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 8: Right.

637
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, thirty to twenty seven. Yeah, in saying that you

638
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 7: could watch those five minutes and write down ten nine SELECTI,

639
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 7: maybe maybe they just got the fighters confused anyway, So

640
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 7: you know, I feel like you sort of were insinuating,

641
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 7: and I don't disagree that maybe Marvin Ventori could have

642
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 7: done a little bit more, you know, even just showing

643
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 7: you a few things that made you feel like he

644
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 7: was a little bit more dangerous on the feet. So

645
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 7: I think this is a nice win for Joe SELECTI,

646
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 7: but not unlike Vittori, I was expecting to see a

647
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 7: little bit more. I still think the ceiling is high

648
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 7: for Joe select What what are your thoughts on where

649
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 7: he is young man three and zero in the US.

650
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 8: Listen, I think that's fair John, You know, I think

651
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Speaker 8: for SELECTI to go against an experience veteran like Jim

652
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 8: Miller is no easy task. However, we do use veterans

653
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 8: as the measuring stick, right. Jim Miller is a guy

654
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 8: that's kind of I would never say gatekeeper in a way,

655
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,959
Speaker 8: but he's certainly an excellent measuring stick to how far

656
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 8: you can go in that lightweight division, which is absolutely stacked,

657
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 8: and I think it was. It was a very close fight.

658
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 8: I think he's gonna learn a lot from that experience.

659
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 8: But as far as you know Seleci's trajectory, I don't

660
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 8: think we are all as high on him as well

661
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 8: as we would have liked to see. But I do

662
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 8: think he is going to get a lot better from

663
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 8: that fight, and he's going to fix a lot of things,

664
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Speaker 8: and he's gonna get his footwork better and all that stuff.

665
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Speaker 8: But I think he did a good job of doing

666
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 8: what he needed to do to win that fight. I

667
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 8: did have him losing that first round. He did a

668
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 8: great job of coming back and fighting back against a

669
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 8: really tough opponent in Miller and getting the win. So

670
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 8: I think he'll learn a lot from it and get

671
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 8: better from that experience. However, I agree he's got some

672
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 8: work to do, but you know every fighter does.

673
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 7: We should do a two minute drill so we can

674
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 7: spend two minutes on all these performances. We congratulate Mattauje, Gamro,

675
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 7: Jackshore and everybody else, and potentially more of that coming

676
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 7: up with Longo. And speaking of which, guess who's in

677
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 7: the lobby, right, whoa, we only made him wait like

678
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 7: ninety seconds. Let's get to the Ray Longo minute.

679
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 5: It's now time for the Ray Longo minute.

680
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna finch a hole in.

681
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 10: This fucking such that's a long mark.

682
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Speaker 5: The Ray Longo minute story Ray long the John Nick

683
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 5: and Kenny Florian podcast.

684
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 7: Last week it was the greatest Ray Longo minute in

685
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 7: the history of the program. So we'll see what Ray

686
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 7: has for an encore. Whoa, morning, Gray.

687
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 9: There'll be no encore. Yeah, this is the dead Ray

688
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 9: Longo minute.

689
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 7: Well, if Cody was only speeding on you fixing your

690
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 7: hair with your own spit a moment ago, it might

691
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 7: have sped last week's. But he wasn't speeding, so.

692
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 9: My goodness, and you grab a rake from the garage.

693
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 9: Come on.

694
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 7: Rake's a pretty good start. Rake is a pretty good start.

695
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 7: So you fly all the way down to South Carolina

696
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 7: and Chris, whyman, these guys just want to like mess

697
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 7: with you and piss all over them their Instagram stories.

698
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 7: It's like, I came down here.

699
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 9: If you think that he had me down there for training,

700
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 9: you guys would be absolutely incorrect.

701
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 13: Right, Basically, just comic relief basically just takes his cock

702
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 13: down and just thought it was like up from the airport.

703
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 9: I mean it's like horrendous.

704
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean.

705
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 8: Dangerfield, Mma, no respect.

706
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 13: I swear to God because I meant, don't come from

707
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 13: that era. But me, you can't, Like I'll turn around.

708
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 13: The guy's got the phone up my ears, Like it's incredible.

709
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 13: This is all this guy's thinking about. Let me tell

710
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 13: you something.

711
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 9: If he puts this much energy into the fight, he's

712
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 9: gonna knock this guy out in about twenty five seconds.

713
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 9: By sway to God, it's amazing, amazing.

714
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,719
Speaker 7: You're making my voice with this. But yeah, I mean

715
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 7: you know, Ray's just sitting there on the couch. Everybody's

716
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 7: watching TV. It's like Race is trying to like open

717
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 7: a packet of crackers or something. And uh, right, has

718
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 7: a cellular telephone like up his ass every minute, just

719
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 7: filming you and hazing you.

720
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 13: And yeah, out of business is his son kicked over

721
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 13: the table, so it was ship all over the place.

722
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 9: He doesn't know that. He comes back, he films me.

723
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 9: Thinks I'm making a mess. He's just crazy. Right, Well,

724
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 9: he's what a beautiful house he has, and uh he

725
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 9: looks good man. He's doing great. Family, family's outstanding. You know,

726
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 9: he's he's got a good thing going on.

727
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 7: Hashtag Carolina Chris. It's all seemingly working.

728
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 9: Out, ishtig Raleigh Ray. I was that right?

729
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 10: That works?

730
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 7: Like that? Just amazing how quickly you guys will, you know,

731
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 7: just take on, you know, like hash hashtag like Johnny

732
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 7: Boca like you know, I'm a Boston guy, Boston guy.

733
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 7: Amazing that that's it.

734
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 9: I'm never I'm never leaving Long Island.

735
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 7: And It's like, I don't even have to research Wiseman

736
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 7: because when he walks out, I'm just gonna be like, well,

737
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 7: here is the former undisputed UFCEEN Midway champion call himself

738
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 7: Carolina Chris these days, you know, because he moved his

739
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 7: training camp to South Carolina. Ray Long goes still in

740
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 7: the corner though. All right, So Aljamain Sterling is having

741
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 7: neck surgery, and we all wish Al Joe the best.

742
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 7: He seems to be optimistic as to the recovery, maybe

743
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 7: maybe only three months before he's able to resume cardiovascular

744
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 7: type training. But man, there's a lot of layers to

745
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 7: this Ray given the nature of the title fight and

746
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 7: everything else that is going on. I'd imagine there was

747
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 7: some sort of decision as to whether or not, you know,

748
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 7: to go through with this. What what can you tell

749
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 7: us as far as the neck and how Aljamyne is doing,

750
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 7: if you'd be so kind.

751
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 13: Uh you know, mentally, I think he's in a good spot.

752
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 13: Uh you know, physically his I think it was his

753
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 13: left price up. He was you know, was shrinking or

754
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 13: he was had some atrophy and he didn't have the strength.

755
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 13: But uh, I thought, uh, you know, he was getting

756
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 13: the surgery, then he was going to try to rehab,

757
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 13: and then I think he went back to the doctor.

758
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 13: They were going back and forth, and he just decided

759
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 13: to have the surgery. I mean, I me, personally, I

760
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 13: would have rather see if he could have got through

761
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 13: it with that rematch and then you know, handled business

762
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 13: from there. But uh, you know, if he feels like

763
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 13: that's what he has to do to be mentally confident,

764
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 13: especially uh, then that's what he's going to do. So

765
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 13: I think it definitely crazy timing. I mean, you know,

766
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 13: I mean, this guy can't even get next surgery without

767
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 13: people coming out of the woodworking and crapping all over me.

768
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 7: Well, and the real issue too, is that this will

769
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 7: probably just give those people more fuel, unform and more ammunition.

770
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 7: It's really disgusting and a lot of respects, right because, uh,

771
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 7: he might he might lose this young fight now, I

772
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 7: mean Kenviller, hopefully he doesn't get stripped of the title.

773
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 7: I mean, Kenny, do you think they try to do

774
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 7: like an interim belt?

775
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 9: Like what do you do? Well?

776
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 8: That that's my concern for Aljo at this point, right,

777
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,479
Speaker 8: you know, the unfortunate circumstances around you know, his last

778
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 8: fight are there. Uh and now with the surgery, you know,

779
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 8: pushing things back a little bit, I'd imagine they they

780
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 8: might be leaning towards taking the belt away from him now,

781
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 8: especially since we don't know exactly when he's going to

782
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 8: be coming back from this next surgery, which can can

783
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 8: definitely take some time.

784
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 9: Man, And you got to hope everything goes right.

785
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 13: I think Wideman had the back team surgery, so I

786
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 13: think he's getting official disc uh see six maybe a seven.

787
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 9: But I mean you have to talk to him, I forget.

788
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 10: So this is something he's been dealing with for for

789
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 10: a for a while now, right.

790
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 13: Or he's always had neck problems, But I you know,

791
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 13: I think this exacerbated it, you know, getting neat like that.

792
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 7: So uh, I mean, I would imagine if you're the

793
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 7: athlete and you can prove medically you know how dire

794
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 7: the circumstances are, and you make it harder to be

795
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 7: stripped of the belt. I mean, I can understand why Yon,

796
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 7: given the way he looked in the fight up until

797
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 7: that colossal mistake that shouldn't just be discounted by people

798
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 7: by the way, you know. I finally saw al Joe

799
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,479
Speaker 7: Ray and I tried to like tell the guy, it's like, dude,

800
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 7: like you still had to get to the title fight

801
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 7: and the champion made a mistake, you know. But for Yan,

802
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 7: because of how good he looked and how excited everybody

803
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 7: is about him, I wouldn't be surprised if they would

804
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 7: try to turn him around in an interim setting in

805
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 7: a few months here. But hopefully they don't strip your guy.

806
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 7: That sounds harsh to me.

807
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 13: Who knows what they're gonna do. But you know, like again,

808
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 13: I think you hit on something. It really is unfortunate.

809
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 13: The guy took an illegal knee and it was pretty bad, you.

810
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 9: Know what I mean.

811
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 13: And I don't know, well, I mean, it really kind

812
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 13: of the timing of everything just stinks. And I think

813
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 13: because of it, like you said, because of the circumstances

814
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 13: and the way it went down.

815
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 9: I can't see this being a good thing. But the

816
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 9: good thing is he'll be healthy. I mean that.

817
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 13: And like again, we overlooked, we were overlooking, you know,

818
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 13: the safety of the fighter all the time. But it's

819
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 13: just crazy. But yeah, he's he's definitely not getting any

820
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 13: sympathy from his from the base.

821
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, he's got to tune out that noise as

822
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 7: best he can. Banham Wight is so good right now.

823
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 7: I don't know if you saw what Jack Shore did

824
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 7: this weekend to improve to fourteen and h but I

825
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 7: mean it's like Jack Shore. I don't know what the

826
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 7: UFC rankings are. He might be like number thirty in

827
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 7: the world, and the dude looks like he can beat

828
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 7: some guys in you know, the bottom half of that

829
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 7: top fifteen. Potentially in a year or two, we'll see

830
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 7: what they do. Hey, what'd you think of the show

831
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 7: on ABC?

832
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 9: Ray?

833
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 7: What did you think of the early start time, the

834
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 7: main event? What he have for us on the but

835
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 7: Tory Holland.

836
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 13: Card, Well, you know, I got back late Friday night,

837
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 13: so I got to the gym. I didn't even know

838
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 13: it was on that early. I was so looking forward

839
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 13: to doing my thing at the gym and going home

840
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 13: and watching the fights that it kind of somebody's you know,

841
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 13: I walked in in the fights one.

842
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 9: I go, you gotta be kidneying.

843
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 13: They said, no, the main event starts at three, So

844
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 13: I really I'm going to say, probably only caught the

845
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 13: main event.

846
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 9: Do you have cable?

847
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 7: Do you have cable at home?

848
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 10: Still? Yeah?

849
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, all right, no, you and me both, I'm

850
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 7: saying there a lot of people don't have cable. You know,

851
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 7: Gentflo looks like a little bit like a cord cutter

852
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 7: to me.

853
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 12: I don't know.

854
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 7: No, they watch on like devices, right, so they're like

855
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 7: they'll buy ESPN Plus and Hulu and whatever the hell else,

856
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 7: but they won't like people, they won't have like Comcast,

857
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 7: you know, they won't have like Exfinity boxes at the house.

858
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 9: You know, so the stream is you're talking about see

859
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 9: For me.

860
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 7: Though, it's like I hate having to go into an

861
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 7: application to watch a UFC fight night, you know, like

862
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 7: I want to be able to turn on my TV,

863
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 7: you know, flip from Dinah's drive ins and dives right

864
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 7: back to UFC Fight Night. I don't want to have

865
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 7: to change the input and all that, right, you feel

866
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 7: at all.

867
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Speaker 9: Fail you?

868
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 7: So, well, what do you think about Marvin Vattori? Because

869
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 7: this middleweight division is very interesting right now? You know,

870
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 7: Ken Flow sort of liked it overall, no argument with domination,

871
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 7: but maybe didn't maximize the showcase to the extent to

872
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 7: which some thought he could. Would you think of Marvin

873
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 7: Vittry Raymond?

874
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 9: Now?

875
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 13: Listen, I thought Victory did great. I thought he fought

876
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 13: a smart fight based on what he saw with the

877
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 13: brunts and fight. And look, he takes a big chance

878
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 13: with taking this guy at last. Man, he's very dangerous standing.

879
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 9: Up and.

880
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 13: I honestly I give it up to both guys. I

881
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 13: like the fact that Holland came in more serious, you

882
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 13: know what I mean. He wasn't playing around, but he definitely,

883
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 13: unequivocally now knows he's got a major deficit in his game.

884
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 13: You know that he's got to work on for sure.

885
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 13: And like again Victory, you know he wants to fight.

886
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 13: He proves that man, he didn't give me who they

887
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 13: were going to put in there. I do think you know,

888
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 13: on the feat, Holland's very dangerous and he didn't care

889
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 13: and he did what he had to do, which didn't

890
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 13: make for maybe the most exciting fight, but you know

891
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 13: he was able to have that output over five rounds

892
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 13: and win the fight.

893
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 9: I thought it was a smart fight.

894
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 7: And I appreciate you giving Marvin credit, right because oftentimes

895
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 7: in these short note of situations, it's only the guy

896
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 7: who's not on the books who gets the credit for

897
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,479
Speaker 7: stepping up, you know, like Feller deserved all the credit

898
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 7: in the war to fight half al Dosandra. Mardier still

899
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 7: has to take the fight too, you know, That's all

900
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 7: I was saying. But Tory still has to take the

901
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 7: fight too. And there are a lot of guys who

902
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 7: are like, you know what, it's not worth it to

903
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 7: fight Kevin Holland. I'm not going to save the day guy.

904
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 13: He's that guy that could be a spoiler obviously, but

905
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 13: uh again, Vittori worked off the fact what he saw

906
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 13: in that runs and fight, and look, he he won

907
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 13: that fight, and he wanted easily, and then you know,

908
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 13: I know about easily, but he.

909
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 9: Won the fight.

910
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 7: I love I'm not getting an Italian flag.

911
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 13: There's one thing about him, that kid, he wants to fight.

912
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 13: You know, you're gonna have to knock him out to

913
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 13: beat him or choke him out or you know, but

914
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 13: he he wants to fight.

915
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 9: And he proved it with with just accepting that fight,

916
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 9: and he saved the main event, and so did Holland.

917
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 13: And I give Holland credit to for jumping in right

918
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 13: after the defeat the brunts, and so I think it

919
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 13: was good all the way around. Was it I appealing

920
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 13: on ABC? Probably not. That's not the fight they wanted.

921
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 13: But as far as performance was, you can I don't

922
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 13: think you can argue with it. You know, you have

923
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 13: to you and you want three rounds.

924
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 7: So sorry, I just got distracted thinking that Game Bread

925
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 7: Oosman two can flow might be a good opportunity for

926
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 7: for the second tattoo bet or third tattoo. Really I

927
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 7: like it getting the game Bread anyway, So why not

928
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 7: if game Bread beats Kamara Ousman, we get the game

929
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 7: Bread tattoo on the other side on the other arm.

930
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,959
Speaker 7: So then we got two on nine on the left

931
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 7: arm for West Coast and game Bread on the right

932
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 7: arm for East Coast. You know, don't you love it.

933
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 8: When your career is over. You're gonna look like you're

934
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 8: gonna look like a you know, a gangster.

935
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 9: I like it.

936
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 7: It's the laughing stock of MMA fans around the world.

937
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 7: And I could not care less Ray anything.

938
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 9: We all are at this point.

939
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, it is what it is.

940
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 6: It is what it is.

941
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 7: But anything else, Ray, before we let you fly. You

942
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 7: got a prediction for us on Robert Whitaker and Kelvin

943
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 7: Gasoline this weekend.

944
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a good fight.

945
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 7: Uh, dead air is always good on a podcast. What

946
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 7: do you think Robert Whitaker minus two five Kelvin Gasoline

947
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 7: plus two fifty.

948
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 13: I would say a couple of years ago, I would

949
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 13: have went with Kelvin. I'm gonna go with Whittaker. He

950
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 13: out hustles him.

951
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 7: I just will never forget that day, February ninth, twenty nineteen,

952
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 7: right when they were supposed to fight at UFC two

953
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 7: thirty four. So I'm getting my cardio in at like

954
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 7: two o'clock in the morning, right because we have an

955
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 7: early start time in Australia, And I'm coming back to

956
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 7: my room and I see our UFCVP of pr and

957
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 7: Abreak and Ridge walking down the hallway. Knocks on the

958
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 7: door of Hafel Cordero and I'm like, oh boy, something's

959
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 7: going on here. And obviously Gasolam at that point was

960
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 7: informed that Whitaker had a major abdominal issue and wasn't

961
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 7: gonna fight, right, And that was February twenty nineteen. And

962
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 7: here we are two and a half years later and

963
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 7: Ken Flow, having thrice competed for the undisputed ultimate prize

964
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 7: in the sport. Here is Calvin Gaslin though right two

965
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 7: and a half years later, still has not competed for

966
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 7: for an undisputed world championship. Wakes up that fucking day

967
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 7: expecting to fight for the undisputed title, and here we

968
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 7: almost three years later, still hasn't had that chance.

969
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 13: So that when that guy went to Codero's room, will

970
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 13: you win your white robe and your pipe?

971
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 7: And yes, yes, I had a blunt in my hand.

972
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 7: Uh and Linay is a woman?

973
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 9: Is there a problem with the fight? I was like, no,

974
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 9: will you please get the done?

975
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 10: Yeah?

976
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 9: I garage put a lineman here.

977
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 7: Yeah that's.

978
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 9: What happened.

979
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, Ray didn't All right, buddy, Well, uh, why

980
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 7: don't you have a great week? So next week we

981
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 7: are taping on Monday night because all of a sudden,

982
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 7: it's it's a PFL fight week for our guy, Ken Flow.

983
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 7: Are you available next Monday night? Next Monday night around

984
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 7: seven pm Eastern time? Are you available? You got somebody

985
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 7: coming in for.

986
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 9: I'll make myself available. I'm a professional.

987
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 13: I'm excited to watch the PFL for the first time

988
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 13: in my life.

989
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 9: You know what, do you have any idea? What because

990
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 9: my buddy's the announcer.

991
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, I left my guy.

992
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 9: That's my guy, PFLs they're going to go through the roof.

993
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 9: Who's in the booth?

994
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 7: As the saying goes, we got Brandy Coteur and Sean O'Connell.

995
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 7: Why do you think they signed?

996
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 9: And a nice guy. He's been there for a while.

997
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 9: That's good gay.

998
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 7: Why do you think they signed Ken Flow? The consummate

999
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 7: needle mover? You don't think their internal metrics suggests that

1000
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 7: this dude's going to move the needle and he might fight.

1001
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 8: Stop you people are by the way. People are hitting

1002
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 8: me up like, hey, is this true? So I know,

1003
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 8: was John kind of joking? Are you really gonna find

1004
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 8: is that you like you're starting these rumors, Johnny?

1005
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 9: What people think is ahead.

1006
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 13: There's no question about that they hired him because of

1007
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 13: this podcast, because we'll be they already got their money's worth.

1008
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're right, that's uh talking about angle. Well, whole

1009
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 7: question for next week's Aanda Can Floring podcast. What is

1010
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 7: more likely another profile for Ken Flow or an amateur

1011
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 7: debut for me?

1012
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 12: You know, I don't know.

1013
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 7: I think it's a picking.

1014
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 3: Uh.

1015
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 7: Hey, Ray, have a great week and we'll talk to

1016
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 7: you next Monday night. And if you need anything, you

1017
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 7: can text me anytime. You know that?

1018
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 9: Oh all right, man, Ray, Ray enjoyed a good luck week. Two?

1019
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 7: Hey, you get vaccinated yet? You get vaccinated? Yet?

1020
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 9: Vaccinated? Yeah?

1021
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 7: Or are you gonna get vaccinated or not?

1022
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 9: I believe I will. Yeah. But Longo is.

1023
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 7: Gonna go into the Vice Our Veterans Memorial Arena on

1024
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 7: April twenty fourth to corner athletes with fifteen thousand strong.

1025
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 7: Probably take your mask off and just take your shirt

1026
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 7: off too, huh.

1027
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 9: I mean yeah, maybe I'll start kissing everybody too, to naked. No,

1028
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 9: I've looked. I'm hoping. I'm hoping I still have the

1029
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 9: antibodies from when.

1030
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 6: I had it.

1031
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 9: That's what I'm right. No, I understand I didn't want

1032
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 9: to get it too soon, and.

1033
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 7: I respect people who who are on either side. I

1034
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 7: did get my maderna shot. Don't tell Patty Milita, but

1035
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 7: I did get the first one.

1036
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 9: And see how it.

1037
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 7: Goes all right, Buddy, Well, hey, always great to see you.

1038
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 9: Now you got me work. Maybe I won't even show

1039
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 9: up now because I'm not vaccinated.

1040
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 7: Thank you, Carolina. Chris needs needs some New York player

1041
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 7: in that corner.

1042
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 9: So we wait, love.

1043
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 13: We shout out to Wonder Boys School too, man upstate Karate.

1044
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 13: What a great facility, man, I'm telling you, I had

1045
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 13: a great time down there.

1046
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 9: It was great seeing Ray Thompson Wonder Boys. Always just

1047
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 9: a gentleman.

1048
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 13: And yeah, but what a what a great modern facility

1049
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 13: something I'm not used to, but it was really it

1050
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,959
Speaker 13: was a it was a pleasure, always just a hospitality

1051
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 13: down there was fantastic and great time.

1052
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 9: White Man's looking good and let's just uh, let's go

1053
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 9: COVID contained Jacksonville.

1054
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 7: There you go. Let's by the way, Ken flows like

1055
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 7: two hundred and fifty miles from.

1056
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 9: At that callage.

1057
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 8: Yeah that like this calculation.

1058
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 9: You would have liked it down there. I got it.

1059
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 10: I got a visit.

1060
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 9: Man.

1061
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 7: He drove one hundred and twenty five miles to a

1062
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 7: seven to eleven. He sitting in the parking lot. Yeah,

1063
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 7: smoking a backwood, waiting for you. Yeah, never showed.

1064
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1065
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 9: I don't think it didn't appear that anything was too

1066
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 9: close out there. But you know, four hours is four hours.

1067
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1068
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 7: All right, Hey, have a great day.

1069
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 9: We love you. Try next week. You're right, take care.

1070
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 7: He is Raymond Peter Longo in your program Ray Long

1071
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 7: a Minute every week here on the Anicin Flooring Podcast

1072
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 7: two hundred and ninety seventh Ray Long a Minute coming

1073
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 7: up next week, folks. All right, it is now time

1074
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 7: for the pronouncation of the week. This fighter will be

1075
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 7: competing live on the main card at the ESPN this weekend,

1076
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 7: as we welcome in our executive producer, Cody Merrilhi, Cody, Oh.

1077
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 11: Hey, sorry, I was trying to book a flight because

1078
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 11: ray said he's given out kisses in Jacksonville and I

1079
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 11: can't miss that, right, come.

1080
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 7: On COVID talking about value from Raymond and uh Jacksonville, Florida.

1081
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 7: Can't miss out on that. So this fighter and it's

1082
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 7: great to see it, Cody. We'll move up to the

1083
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 7: middleweight division to take on Jacob Malkun on the main

1084
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 7: cat on ESPN this Saturday night four and three in

1085
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 7: the UFC from Ghana and Floridas. Mma of whom am

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00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 7: I speaking? Cody?

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00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 11: Well, John, you know when you throw me a softball

1088
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 11: like Abdulla zak Alhassen, I better get it right. So

1089
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,479
Speaker 11: let's listen to the pronunciation file.

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00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 9: Abdul razak Lhassen.

1091
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 11: Do I need a second one?

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00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 7: No, you're good two and one on the year for

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00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 7: outstanding outstanding. Don't close your camera down yet, stay here

1094
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 7: for a minute with me. So great job, right because

1095
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 7: it seems simple on the surface, Abdullah zak Alha, But

1096
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 7: there are a lot of opportunities to wrongly emphasize a syllable.

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Speaker 7: So great fucking job.

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Speaker 10: Thank you, thank you.

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00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 8: I appreciate that.

1100
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 11: You know I'm getting buried by some of these. So

1101
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 11: when I get one like this that I know I

1102
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 11: gotta hit it.

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00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 7: Does Team ken Fole get points for this, Yeah, we

1104
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 7: should probably work that well, figure out a lot.

1105
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 11: I think the team Team kenfil already got points because,

1106
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 11: as Ray said, like the production value is really what

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00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 11: got the job signed. So congratulations with Kenny Florian and

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00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 11: you know to me too, you know, just a little bit.

1109
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 7: Thank you, Cody. And if you're watching on the YouTube

1110
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 7: side and you like Cody's AF monogram trucker hat, you

1111
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,479
Speaker 7: can get it right now. And florinpodcast dot com. AF

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Speaker 7: is a F ten. What's the code, Cody for ten

1113
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 7: percent off? A F ten sounds about right for ten

1114
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 7: percent off of your merchandise. Sorry, that's it for the

1115
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 7: pronunciation of the week. And as you guys know, UFCS

1116
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 7: live almost every weekend that includes this one UFC Fight

1117
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 7: Night Whitaker versus Gas still on April seventeenth from the

1118
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 7: Apex Preliums and main Card on ESPN. Let's make some

1119
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 7: picks c E challenge.

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00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 5: It's the main event challenge and time is.

1121
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 4: How do you everything?

1122
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 5: Park will to win the Main Event Challenge to John

1123
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 5: Annick and Kenny Florian.

1124
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 7: Podcast and we are now joined by the duck, Ian

1125
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 7: Parker on social media at Ian Parker MMA. So Team

1126
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 7: Annik wins the week and the celebration is on. Ian

1127
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 7: and I were actually celebrating privately because it was.

1128
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 9: What he was.

1129
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 2: What you gonna be really upset when you hear the score.

1130
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 7: I want to recount ten to three a huge week

1131
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 7: for Team Annex, Ian Parker. So the big fight was

1132
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 7: the co main event. And people can bang on our

1133
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 7: scoring system all they want, but it's been in place

1134
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 7: for six years. So Arnold allen By decision was a

1135
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 7: four point play for Ian because Alan was the slight dog,

1136
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 7: he had the method of victory decision and that gives

1137
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 7: him the round as well, So that opens things up.

1138
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 7: The lead is now forty four to thirty three, and

1139
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 7: you know everybody's not gonna be as humble as ken

1140
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 7: Flow in victory. So, uh, the floor is yours. My

1141
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 7: friend obviously is a bit. It was a big week

1142
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 7: and usually that translates to the uh, to the sports

1143
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 7: book as well.

1144
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 10: He's winning, he hasn't won. He's winning, he hasn't won yet.

1145
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 7: He declared victory already.

1146
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 2: I well, no, no, no, So first year I did that,

1147
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 2: I fucked it up. Second year I didn't. I'm trying

1148
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 2: to follow the blueprint of your two, not your three

1149
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 2: eleven point lead beginning of April. Kenny's got plenty of time,

1150
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 2: but it's gonna force him to make some uh some

1151
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 2: wild picks. This is this this la This past weekend

1152
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: Kenny was a tough one for you, so just use you,

1153
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: you know, just use that when you're fighting for the PFL.

1154
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 2: Just use that energy when you step in the cage.

1155
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 7: And he was fine one of our early main event challenges.

1156
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 7: It was a different listener on every single week and

1157
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 7: we do have a bankroll of listeners ready to go

1158
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 7: UH as well this year, but Ian Parker continues to

1159
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 7: hold down the slot. I look at him, shake his

1160
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 7: head like, what are you guys doing?

1161
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: I just have a perfect week, and he's talking about

1162
00:52:58,560 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: no no, no, no, no no no.

1163
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 7: I'm saying there was one year. There was one year

1164
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 7: where we had like fifty different listeners and it really

1165
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 7: came down to the wire. But what I was going

1166
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 7: to say is the last three years, Ken Flow has

1167
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 7: dug a lead and more often than not he does

1168
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 7: come out of it to win. But Ian obviously is

1169
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 7: in a good handicapping flow and why don't we get

1170
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 7: back to it. It's UFC fight out Whicker versus GASOLM

1171
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 7: unless you have anything else, And I do love you,

1172
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 7: but just trying to be good to the listeners out

1173
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 7: there who all want your jump too.

1174
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 10: You know that's cool. Listen.

1175
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: Look, then I'll just build a bigger lead so if

1176
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 2: someone for a weekend and this loves can flow too much,

1177
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: they want to give him the picks. Whatever, It's cool again.

1178
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 7: As long as you come in as Ryan Tracy did

1179
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 7: a couple of weeks ago from Travis Matthew and beat

1180
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 7: Ken Flow two to one as he did, then Ian

1181
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 7: has no issues with you. It's when you start to

1182
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 7: chip away at his lead in his absence, when he

1183
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 7: sends somebody to your house with all of his resources.

1184
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, if you're going to jump in for the duck,

1185
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: just at least like go to share dog and like

1186
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: look up a record because somebody, some of you guys

1187
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 2: were throwing some picks out there that I literally text

1188
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 2: John and said, please don't hold it against me. Ken

1189
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: he even texted me and said, hey, look I may

1190
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 2: not hold this pick against you. Some of them are

1191
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 2: a little tough. But it's all good banging.

1192
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 7: Now he's banging on the other cappers. All right, We're

1193
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 7: gonna start with the main card bout at middleweight Abdul

1194
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 7: Razach al Hassen minus three hundred, Jacob Malcoun plus two

1195
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 7: fifty Ian so al Hassen moving up after missing weight

1196
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 7: in his last two at Welterwait those ended up being

1197
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 7: losses to Chaos Williams and Mounier Lezez Malkuhn on the

1198
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 7: other side, melted by Phil Hawson eighteen seconds on Fight

1199
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 7: Island and his UFC debut Ip who do you have?

1200
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1201
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: Look, if al Hassen doesn't get this win, he's gone.

1202
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: There's no question He's had enough time to kind of

1203
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: bounce back and finding a guy who I think is

1204
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: four and one with very little experience, who also likes

1205
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 2: to strike. I'm gonna go with al Hassen here just

1206
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 2: because he has to win.

1207
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 7: Can Flow Malcun al Hassen?

1208
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 12: Who do you have?

1209
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm gonna go with al Housen as well.

1210
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 8: I do think that his back is against the wall here,

1211
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 8: but I do think that he matches up well and

1212
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 8: should get the win.

1213
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 7: I like Jacob Malcoun as well, the longtime training partner

1214
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 7: of Robert Whittaker, but he is also undersized at middleweight

1215
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 7: if you want to say at abdul Razak al Hassen,

1216
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 7: who is moving up his undersize. So we'll see how

1217
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 7: it goes. But three to one on the favorite side

1218
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 7: for abdul Razzak Alhassen, all Right, the age with Andre

1219
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 7: Rolovsky minus one seventy five Chase Sherman plus one fifty

1220
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 7: in the heavyweight division. Here Ian Arlovsky coming off a

1221
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 7: second round loss to Tom aspinall in February. No shame

1222
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 7: in that Sherman was to face Parker Porter. Instead, he

1223
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 7: gets the big name Arlovsky, who steps up here. Sherman

1224
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 7: has won his last four, Ian, what do you think

1225
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 7: about this one? Arlovsky favorite?

1226
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I see why Rolovsky is favored. However, Sherman's

1227
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: his demeanor and his aggression, I think is what always

1228
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: plays against Arlovsky. When you back Oarlosky up and you

1229
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 2: hit him on the chin, he goes down. Sherman's gonna

1230
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: be the taller guy, and I kind of like him.

1231
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 2: Value wise, Arlowski should put him on his back and

1232
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 2: not take that chance. But I don't see Arlovsky wrestling

1233
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 2: anytime soon, so I'm gonna take a I'm gonna give

1234
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: Kenny an opportunity here to maybe score some points or

1235
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 2: bury him further. So I'm gonna go with Chase Sherman.

1236
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 7: All Right, Ian Parker likes the Vanilla Gorilla Chase Sherman,

1237
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 7: Andre Arlovsky UFC appearance number thirty five, and he has

1238
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 7: been the far more active fighter. Chase Sherman won that

1239
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 7: UFC return last year to begin his second UFC stint,

1240
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 7: but it was UFC two forty nine last May. Arlobsky

1241
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 7: continues to make the walk, continues to be cornered by

1242
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 7: Mike Brown, continues to be competitive. He's won two of

1243
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 7: three Ken Flow ar Loobsky the favorite, Sherman the dog.

1244
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 9: Who do you like?

1245
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:17,919
Speaker 10: Listen?

1246
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 8: I like Arlosky here, you know, I do think that

1247
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 8: Chase Sherman is not going to be an easy fight

1248
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 8: for him. I think he's very dangerous. He could certainly

1249
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 8: get a knockout against someone like Arlovsky. But I do

1250
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 8: think that Arlosky has has looked better with this forwork.

1251
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 8: He's been more defensive and responsible, and sometimes if you

1252
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 8: go Chase in a little bit too hard against Arlosky,

1253
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 8: he can surprise you.

1254
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 10: I like Arlosky here.

1255
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 7: Did we decide if there was a double digit win

1256
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 7: in the main event challenge that Ken Flow gets like

1257
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 7: a tattoo? We didn't agree on that, right.

1258
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 2: That happened last year, so I guess he's getting a

1259
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 2: duck tattooed right on.

1260
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 7: The right dut tattoo. There's not a bit, there's not

1261
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 7: a bitcoin in the world for him to get a

1262
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 7: fucking duck tattoo.

1263
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 2: You're getting game brand. He's got a fucking duck.

1264
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, how long have you been in the

1265
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 7: control room here in that game bred noise? All Right,

1266
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 7: Komaine event. I'm really curious to see where you guys

1267
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 7: fall on this because the price is close. Jeremy Stevens

1268
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 7: minus one forty Dracar Close plus one twenty will need

1269
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 7: the round in the method of victory. Ken Flow is

1270
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 7: gonna lead on the main event, so Ian will have

1271
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 7: you lead on the Komine event. First, a little trivia.

1272
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 7: How many fights has Jeremy Stevens had at featherweight since

1273
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 7: he moved up from lightweight in twenty thirteen eight eighteen.

1274
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 7: Featherweight appears for Jeremy Stevens only misweight twice Ian, but

1275
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 7: he did so for the Cater fight last year. Perhaps

1276
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 7: that was part of the impetus for moving back up.

1277
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 7: But now at one fifty five, he faces Drakar Close.

1278
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 7: He had won three in a row before Benny Daryus

1279
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 7: rallied epically on him. Close then had a fight maybe

1280
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 7: against Louis Payana. I believe go Away because of COVID nineteen,

1281
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 7: huge spot for both guys, Stevens in Close, Stevens the favorite,

1282
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 7: close to the underdogy and who do you have?

1283
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Jakar Close here. I think

1284
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 2: stylistically he actually has a very good wrestling background, and

1285
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 2: I just don't know how much more damage Stevens can

1286
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 2: really take. And we know Close can can throw and

1287
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 2: he can hit hard, as long as he doesn't do

1288
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 2: what he did with Neil dari Uschan just brawl. There's

1289
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 2: a blueprint in a method of victory here as opposed

1290
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 2: to Stevens, who I think has to get the knockout

1291
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 2: and I think that was the first time Close was

1292
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 2: ever knocked out in that Dariusch fight. So I'm gonna

1293
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 2: go with the wrestling situation plus the underdog money, So

1294
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with your car Close Ken Flow.

1295
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,959
Speaker 7: Stevens four losses and a no contest spanning his last

1296
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 7: five So the last win for Jeremy Stevens came in

1297
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Speaker 7: a main event against Josh Emmitt. That was February of

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Speaker 7: twenty eighteen. So it's been a rough go of it

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Speaker 7: of late for Jeremy Stevens, who makes his thirty fourth

1300
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Speaker 7: UFC appearance, pretty remarkable that can flow right fighting Dean

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Speaker 7: Thomas in like two thousand and seven, Stevens said, only

1302
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Speaker 7: you know, we talk about Jim Miller thirty seven UFC fights,

1303
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 7: and here this weekend we got our Loovsky thirty five,

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Speaker 7: Stevens thirty four. Who do you like in the komain Kenny?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Stevens has been fighting forever, man, This guy kid's

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00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 8: been fighting since he was a teenager, and I think

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Speaker 8: he has fights all the way up to one seventy right.

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Speaker 7: Quite possibly.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if he does for yeah, Jev maybe Uh. Anyways, Uh, Stevens,

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Speaker 8: you know, I definitely has his back up against the

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Speaker 8: wall here. But I do think he's fighting a guy

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Speaker 8: in Jakar Close will who will engage him on the

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Speaker 8: feet a little bit. Yes, Dakar Close does come from

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Speaker 8: that wrestling background, and he should he should certainly use

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Speaker 8: that against Jeremy Stevens. But Stevens isn't exactly an easy

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00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 8: guy to take down. And I think Stevens has a

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00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 8: tremendous amount of power that if Jakar Close is not

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Speaker 8: defensively responsible. I think he'll be sleeping and uh, you know,

1319
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 8: as we saw in his last fight against Daryush, he

1320
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 8: does get sloppy. Do not want to get sloppy against

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Speaker 8: someone like Stevens. I like Stevens here. Let's go, let's

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Speaker 8: go second round. Tko wow.

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Speaker 7: I love that two guys are are disagreeing a little bit. Today.

1324
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 7: Doesn't always happen all right, main event, ken Flow, you

1325
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 7: can lead us off here. It is Robert Whitaker, montus

1326
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Speaker 7: two fifty five Calvin GASLM plus two point fifteen. I

1327
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 7: set up some of the history in this matchup, Canny.

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Speaker 7: I'm so thankful, even if undisputed gold is not on

1329
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 7: the line, that this fight itself came around again. Uh,

1330
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Speaker 7: what do you think about Gastollum's chances here in the

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01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 7: role of underdog against Whittaker.

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Speaker 10: Intriguing fight.

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Speaker 8: You know, I think Kevin Kelvin Gastolm is one of

1334
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 8: the toughest guys out there, tremendous chin.

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Speaker 10: He is solid everywhere.

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Speaker 8: I thought he did a great job in his last

1337
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 8: fight and and squeezing out the win. I think that

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Speaker 8: this fight here is gonna be tough against Whittaker. Whittaker

1339
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 8: is really difficult to take down. I think Whittaker is

1340
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 8: going to have a speed advantage here as well. You know,

1341
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 8: I think he is obviously very comfortable, uh, you know,

1342
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 8: in this role and being in a main event. At

1343
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 8: this point, He's been in some big fights. I think

1344
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 8: he realizes that if he wins this fight, he can

1345
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 8: get that rematch against at Asania.

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Speaker 7: Uh And.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I like Whittaker here. I think he wins by decision.

1348
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 8: I don't think it's gonna be an easy fight, but

1349
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 8: I do think wher gets the w here against a

1350
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 8: very tough Kelvin Gastolon all.

1351
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 7: Right, ken Thall on the favorite side in the main event.

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01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 12: Ian.

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01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 7: So, Whittaker's won two in a row eleven of twelve overall,

1354
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 7: two straight since the championship lost to Adasanya, and those

1355
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 7: wins came over Jared Knnaneer and Darren Till. Interestingly enough,

1356
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 7: the two guys that Atasanya continues to talk about when

1357
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 7: it comes to well, he's not talking about Cannoneer anymore,

1358
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 7: but those are the guys that the champion has talked

1359
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 7: about for possible title defenses, and Whittaker has wins over

1360
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 7: both of those guys. This is a definite title eliminator, right.

1361
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 7: I mean, Adasanya has fought all these guys, Vittori, Brunson, Whittaker, Gastolo,

1362
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 7: and the winner of this one could very well have

1363
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 7: the inside track on Vittori or Brunson or anybody else

1364
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 7: Ian Parker, Gastolo or Whittaker in the main event.

1365
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Speaker 2: I like Bobby Knuckles here and the no question about it.

1366
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 9: You know.

1367
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 2: I just think with Kelvin his last fight against Ian

1368
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 2: heinis you know, he went back to his wrestling, but

1369
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 2: Whittaker's takedown defense is just is too good and he's

1370
01:01:58,160 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: just better everywhere, you know, And it's not a knock

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01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 2: on Kelvin. I think where they were a few years ago,

1372
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 2: I might have actually leaned towards Kelvin because at the time,

1373
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 2: the way he was setting up his left hand into takedowns,

1374
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 2: he wasn't telegraphing anything, so his wrestling was dominant. Then

1375
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 2: he got comfortable and he's lost. So I also don't

1376
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 2: know where his mindset is. Ian heinisch fit. I think

1377
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 2: he kept that a little bit closer than he had to.

1378
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 2: He should have won, and that's not a knock on heinish,

1379
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 2: He's tough. Just I feel like the difference in skill

1380
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 2: level and experience should have really favored Kelvin a lot

1381
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 2: more than it did. I just think Whittaker is in

1382
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 2: a different mental space too. I think we know where

1383
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 2: he's at. He's a five round main event title fighter,

1384
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 2: no matter how you skin that cat. As much as

1385
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 2: Atosania maybe not doesn't want rematches, Whittaker is the guy,

1386
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 2: you know, and I think he gets by. I do

1387
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 2: agree with Kenny on the decision standpoint. Kelvin's tough to finish.

1388
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 2: You know, Whittaker's not known for his submission, so I

1389
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 2: don't see any heel hooks her toe holds there like

1390
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 2: what Jack did, unless the cardio plays a factor in

1391
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 2: a round four. But the way Whittaker fought till makes

1392
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 2: me feel like he's just trying to also stay healthy

1393
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 2: and win, and he knows that all he's got to

1394
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 2: do is get to win. So I like Robert Whitaker

1395
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: my decision as well.

1396
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 7: I gotta think the odds were closer when these two

1397
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 7: were booked to fight in twenty nineteen. Yeah, all right,

1398
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 7: quick picks on the way out. We'll get both of

1399
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 7: these from you. Ian main card opener at featherweight Bill

1400
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 7: Algio versus Hickardo Homos, Who do you have there? I

1401
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 7: like Algio Algio and then at lightweight Luis Pania is

1402
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 7: the minus one thirty five favorite, Alex Munio's plus one

1403
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 7: fifteen and I'll go with.

1404
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 2: Louis Pania as well.

1405
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 7: Okay, all ry, Kenny, Ken Flow, Paynya or Munio's for you.

1406
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 7: I like Paanya, all right, and it sounds like you're

1407
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 7: on Bill Algio as well al Jio.

1408
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, all right.

1409
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 7: Ian Parker on social media can be found at Ian

1410
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 7: Parker Mma. The followers continue to climb and hopefully that

1411
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 7: plug helps see you next week. Actually we don't have

1412
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 7: you next week. We have you in two weeks on

1413
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 7: May first, and we will see you then. And I

1414
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 7: appreciate all the hard work and you extending our lead

1415
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:49,919
Speaker 7: in a big way.

1416
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 10: Man.

1417
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 7: I texted you congratulations you did.

1418
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 11: I was.

1419
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 2: To be fair, Kenny. It was actually an email. He

1420
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 2: didn't even he didn't even text me.

1421
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 8: And within formal it's more formal and.

1422
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 7: Very business cash yes, and within thirty well, I know

1423
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 7: I got the standings from our intern Casey Williams, and

1424
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 7: I forward them with a congratulatory note, and within thirty seconds,

1425
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 7: this dude texted me and we were talking to and.

1426
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 2: Then I foted to Kenny with an eggplant. So it

1427
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 2: was totally fine. Didn't now, No, I got get away

1428
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 2: talking about Chris Wyman's uh, Chris Wyman, I know all

1429
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 2: that stuff.

1430
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 12: I don't.

1431
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 2: There's enough eggplant being talked about by Ray the last

1432
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 2: three episodes. That dude needs his own reality show. I

1433
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 2: can't believe there's not been a single network that just

1434
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 2: doesn't follow Ray around. How do you not follow him

1435
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,439
Speaker 2: on a trip to Carolina to I mean Jacksonville.

1436
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 10: I mean he's just got on it.

1437
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, totally Cody, that's Cody's Well, I'm not following Ray.

1438
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 2: I'm not kissing Ray. I don't want to see him

1439
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 2: with his shirt off.

1440
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 7: So well, oh, man Ian Parker taking some time to

1441
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 7: plug the Ray longo minute. I mean just all about

1442
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,479
Speaker 7: the uh, the goodwill and the show as a whole.

1443
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 7: You know, we appreciate that, man.

1444
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm here for.

1445
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 7: All right, Well, have a have a great week with

1446
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 7: all your dogs and dependents and children, and we'll talk

1447
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 7: to you in two weeks. My brother, thank you great job.

1448
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 7: What more kids than me?

1449
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 2: The fuck this guy talking about.

1450
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 7: How many dogs you have.

1451
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 2: I'm down to two.

1452
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 7: God bless you man. No serious kids.

1453
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 2: You got three kids. It's all right, you got three kids.

1454
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it. I got too.

1455
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 7: I don't know that we're we're doing it, you know.

1456
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 7: I mean my son's like addicted to powdered munchkins and

1457
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 7: barely eats. We got a lot of issues. We're doing

1458
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 7: the best weekend.

1459
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 2: That actually sounds amazing. I woke up to my son

1460
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 2: overflowing the bath tub at three a m. And flooding

1461
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 2: the rooms so he likes hot with Your problem is

1462
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 2: munch kids. My problem is fucking flooding. No sing.

1463
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 7: Yeah all right, and we'll talk to you in a

1464
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 7: couple of weeks, my man. Thank you, you got it.

1465
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 7: Guys later, Yeah, all right, we got to get on

1466
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 7: out of here. Thank you all for all the comments

1467
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 7: on YouTube and for all the comments on the show,

1468
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Speaker 7: both on the audio and video side. We do appreciate that.

1469
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 7: And you know, trying not to fill these airwaves with

1470
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 7: fluff so much. I know today was a little bit crazy,

1471
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 7: but hopefully you know you can come here every Monday,

1472
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 7: and you're getting a recap, hard recap of what you

1473
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 7: just saw and obviously predictions and uh a forecast for

1474
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 7: the future UFC Live event coming up next week. We

1475
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 7: will get into the p f L a little bit

1476
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 7: week one coming up for Ken Flow. So we're very

1477
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Speaker 7: excited to see our man back on the sticks for

1478
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Speaker 7: the first time in a long time. And uh, don't

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Speaker 7: to our executive producer Cody Merrotz, Rain to I and

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Speaker 7: UH with that for Ken Plum John, and thank you

1485
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Speaker 7: part out there to uh to maybe get vaccinated if

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Speaker 7: respected Patty. We'll talk to you guys next week.

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Speaker 12: I gotta go yell, lady, I'm Royal Oaks.

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Speaker 3: Next time, on Too Many Lawyers, we take on a

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Speaker 3: couple of villains to sort out whether bad stuff is

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