1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Jack Warris did Jack Ward Jackuars Drive Time Sextra, John 2 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Ashley Jaguars Drive A Time starts right now. Welcome in. 3 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: It's Jacks Drive Time. I'm not Ashlan Sullivan, I'm j P. 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: Shadrick filling in. Ashlon will be back with us very soon. 5 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: John O's are along with me in studio, Brian Sexton 6 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: on his home set today. And here we go on 7 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: a Tuesday morning. We're about three and a half weeks 8 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: away from the NFL Draft. The Jacks have signed another 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: linebacker recently. There's a few things going on. It's not 10 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: as hectic as it will be in the days coming up. 11 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and get right into it. Big things 12 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: right away, starting with the reality of this offseason, virtual 13 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: versus in person this offseason. Well, how is the team 14 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: going to handle? How this things were going to look? 15 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: First off? What's it going to look like? John, I 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: guess it's the big question. Well, that's the question, and 17 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: I think we have the answer yet. And my guess 18 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: is in full disclosure. We're down the hall from football ops. 19 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: I guess it's down the hall. They can't wait to 20 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: find out that answer, and it's it. It's starting to 21 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: get a little old not having the answer. I would 22 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: guess you're going to see on field at some point 23 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: with players, but still meeting virtually, try to meet in 24 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: the middle somewhere there. But all the logistics and all 25 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: the details of that stuff to be hammered out. Let's 26 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: get these other big things will come back around Lawrenceville. 27 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is the You know, it seems like the 28 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: number one overall pick for the Jaguars. Urban Meyers said 29 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: almost as such the other week. But this could change 30 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: the way that the NFL thinks about the Jaguars organization, 31 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: him and things around him. Moving ahead, and finally our 32 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: final big thing today twenty three days. But who's counting 33 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: to the NFL Draft? How is this draft going to 34 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: be conducted? That will be in Cleveland, The commissioner will 35 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: be in Cleveland. Some of the top prospects will be 36 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: up there as well. But it'll be a little bit different, 37 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: I think, still from a normal NFL draft. All right, Brian, 38 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 1: let's go back to our first big thing today. What 39 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: what is this thing going to feel like, this virtual 40 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: in person off season. Well, I guess it depends on 41 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: who you ask JP And it's a great question, and 42 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are trying to figure 43 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: that out. My biggest concern is not that they can't 44 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: get some football work done. I mean, the players Association 45 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: would certainly present the case that they did it this 46 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: way last year, and they got through a whole season 47 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: last year and not too many people complained about the 48 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: quality of the product. But this is a brand new 49 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: era experiment in Jacksonville with urban Meyer coming in and 50 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: radically overhauling the franchise and the word that that he 51 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: keeps using and the word that we keep talking about 52 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: his culture, and I don't know how you radically transformed 53 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: the building and bring in all these new players, twelve 54 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: guys in free agency, eleven draft picks will be a 55 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: ton of undrafted rookies that make it through and build 56 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: the kind of program with the kind of culture that 57 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: you want. I don't think you can do it virtually. 58 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: I mean I say I don't think. I don't believe 59 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: that you can. But maybe maybe someone's got a plan 60 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: that I haven't heard of. So the whole virtual versus 61 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: in person thing for the Jaguars, and from their angle, 62 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: it slows down. It hinders the development of the culture 63 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: that we have heard so much about urban Meyer and 64 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: what he does when he comes into a program. They 65 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: might just have to adapt to the circumstances. I mean, 66 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna have to deal with the same thing that 67 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: that's the hand you ad delt John, But it affects, 68 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: to Brian's point, it affects a first year coach far 69 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: differently than it affects the second year coach. Uh. Brian 70 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: has covered the culture tra angle, and I completely agree 71 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: with him. To me, the second part of this is 72 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: make sure or your hope that there's some extensive on 73 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: field work this year. And I think culture is point 74 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: A for this, but point B is you can't tell 75 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: me that calebine Chason wouldn't have been better last year 76 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: with eight weeks of on field And I keep going 77 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: back to the point a couple of coaches I mentioned 78 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: this last year. It's the only time the off season, 79 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: outside of maybe two and a half weeks of training camp, 80 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: it's the only time for young players to truly try 81 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: to learn technique, to truly be coached. Once you get 82 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: into the regular season, JP, you know, you watch practice, 83 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: it's game planning, it's prep. There's not a lot of 84 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: they call it working on themselves self versus Sell. There's 85 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: not a lot of that. So if you're gonna ask 86 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 1: these coaches to get these guys better, then make sure 87 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: that you give them some time in the off season. 88 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: I'll bet young players aren't the ones who are saying 89 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: we don't need that time. Well, and you know to 90 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: that point, John, I agree with you. We saw over 91 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: the last ten years as practice was restricted and offseason 92 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: work was paired down, we saw those of us who 93 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: covered the game and have for some time, we saw 94 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: the game change of it, and we saw deficiencies, Let's 95 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: put it that way in some areas on the field, 96 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: offensive line play being one that most people would point 97 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: to a quarterback development doesn't appear to be one. That 98 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: was because the game has changed so much as a 99 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: passing game. But we've seen it in the last ten years. 100 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: So there's no way you can say that the game 101 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: isn't as good by guys not practicing. And I think 102 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: Caleb and Chason and his surge at the end of 103 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: the year is a great example of it. I'm just 104 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: presenting the case that that's what the Players Association and 105 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: j C. Trenor the Brown center, who is the president 106 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: of the Players Association has been saying in recent weeks, 107 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: and the Players Association is dragging their heels on everybody 108 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: coming back in and playing it in the off season 109 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: like it has been totally agree Uh, they figured out 110 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: a way to get it done last year, but that 111 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that that makes the game better or more 112 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: enjoyable to watch. Let's move along now to well, Lawrenceville, 113 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: Trevor Town, whatever you're gonna call this place after it now. 114 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,799 Speaker 1: His his representatives, I'm sure have trademarked all of the above. 115 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: They should have. If they haven't, well maybe we should. 116 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: I don't know either way, but it's going to change 117 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: the way this organization, at least initially is seen, I 118 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: think around the NFL. Brian, Yeah, I want to point 119 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: this out. We talked about got this on Jaguars reporters 120 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: and and let me give it from kind of the 121 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: regional angle. I was in the Panhandle over Easter weekend, 122 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: saw a lot of Saints fans was wearing nothing in 123 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: Jaguars scarb. I didn't identify myself as having been affiliated 124 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: with the Jaguars all these years. I just simply asked 125 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: some questions and those people that I met. We're sad 126 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: to see the Saints era with Drew Brees, and not 127 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: because they were huge Saints fans, though they became that, 128 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: but they were Drew Brees fans, which is why they 129 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: became Saints fans. And one of them off handedly remarked 130 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: to me that kid they're going to draft in Jacksonville 131 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: might get my attention over there, and that was the 132 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: part that hit me. He hasn't even drafted yet, that's 133 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: still three weeks away, and yet the attention is so 134 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: focused on Trevor Lawrence and the kind of quarterback he is. 135 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: Because if he wasn't great, people wouldn't be interested in him. 136 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: But what he is as a player and a person, 137 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: because we're starting to learn a lot more about him 138 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: off the field, has people's attention. And I thought, you know, 139 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: we might see some people in the Panhandle who looked 140 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: west to New Orleans turn east to Jacksonville if this 141 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: thing wins. Because John, I think you'd agree it's winning 142 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: that brings people in, But it's personalities like Drew Brees 143 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: that kept those folks watching the Saints all those years. Um. 144 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: I can recall going out into the Panhandle in five 145 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: when we were trying to build the Jaguars radio network, 146 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: and you were competing with the Saints and the Fox 147 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: and the Falcons and of course the ubiquitous teams like 148 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the Raiders. Um, the Jaggars gonna get 149 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: any traction out there that's gonna change regionally speaking. I 150 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: think Trevor Lawrence, as a Southern kid who played at 151 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: the Southern University, I think this is epic potential written 152 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: all over for the Jaguars. Quarterback in college football for 153 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: three years when a national title is freshman year, hasman 154 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: runner up last year, and he has all the accolades 155 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: and everything off the field to go with it. John Well, 156 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: it's easy to forget sometimes because we are so deep 157 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: into it and most of the people who write me, 158 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: most of people who approach us when we're out are 159 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: hardcore Jags fans because they're engaged all the time. You 160 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: don't recognize us if you're not a hardcore Jaguars fan. Um. 161 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: But there are many many casual football fans out there 162 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: who they identify with quarterback and few stars. The Jaguars 163 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: have not had a star of what this kid could 164 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: be maybe ever. Fred Marise Jones Drew Jimmy. There's a 165 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: picture over here in the studio. It's funny that of 166 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: an entire group of fans. I think it's around two thousand, 167 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: two thousand and ten. What's notable about the picture. They're 168 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: all going crazy. They're going nuts. I don't think there's 169 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: a quarterback jersey in the entire bunch of all things. 170 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what air of this is. What you 171 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: want are sixteen jerseys or whatever number that he's gonna wear. 172 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: That's where you get huge swaths of fans following you. 173 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: And that's what this kid can bring. He can change 174 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: this photo JP, this one right here, that's what matters. 175 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: That's right when you walk around you know, obviously you 176 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: walk around New England and everybody's wearing number twelve jersey. 177 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 1: That's how that works when the quarterback is the star, 178 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: final big thing here on here. Twenty three days to 179 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: the draft. You know, last year was a really strange one, 180 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: but it really kind of worked out well. There were 181 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: a lot of good things that came out of that 182 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: draft of everybody working virtually and the home setups for 183 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: all the prospects and the coaches and the g ms. 184 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: They're going closer now it seems like John, back to normal. 185 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: They're having the draft in Cleveland. Who will be involved 186 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: there will see. It's three weeks away, though, and I 187 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: think there'll be a mix of in person and virtual things. John, 188 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: it feels like it's going to be that mix for 189 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: a little while, and you slowly transition back to some 190 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: version of what we had before. I'm anxious to find 191 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: out how much we ever get back to exactly how 192 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: it was before, how much they try to keep things 193 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: distant just because that's the way the world has gone. 194 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: But for right now, I would expect to mix. I 195 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: still expect this draft to overall have more of a 196 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: virtual feel than an in person feel. That could be 197 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: wrong about that. I hope I'm wrong about that, because, 198 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: as we discussed on Jaguars Reporters, the faster we can 199 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: get back to all being together except for this group 200 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: we don't want to be together. But for the most part, 201 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: the faster we can get back to being face to 202 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: face with the people we cover, the better job we 203 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: can do. Obviously to bring the story to the fans. 204 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: You know, I would agree with that, and again I 205 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: would encourage people go listen to Jaguars Reporters from yesterday 206 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: because we talk at length about how it impacts the 207 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: job that we do and and coaches and players also, 208 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 1: you know, JP is interesting if you look at the 209 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: draft last year, that was the part where it felt 210 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: good virtual because the stories that were told were different 211 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: than the stories that are normally told um and I 212 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: think the league is wise to kind of branch out 213 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: and do that. At Trevor Lawrence is going to be 214 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: at Clemson. There was a day where all the top 215 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: players congregated in New York and that's just that's not 216 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: the case anymore. And I think that's a really good 217 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: thing for the league to be able to tell the 218 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: story in many different ways, because, let's face it, I mean, 219 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: the names are a front. Maybe the jerseys look different, 220 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: but the stories on drafting are all the same. There 221 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: it's about kids who are living a dream who became 222 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: great players and their mothers, and you tell them the 223 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: story essentially the same way someone sitting in a chair 224 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: on a stage in New York doing a one on 225 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: one interview. Last year, it was in people's homes, and 226 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: we saw the mothers interacting with their sons, and we 227 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: saw the peewee football coaches who were in the backyard 228 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: is the draft was going on. The stories may be 229 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: the same, but you can tell them in different ways. 230 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: And I think the league benefited from opposite of what 231 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: we're talking about, being virtually in terms of the actual football. 232 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: All right, let's come back in a moment. Plenty of 233 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: ahead when we returned, though, we will go beyond, yes, 234 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: beyond the number one overall pick. We're often runn against. 235 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: Jags Drive Time presented by Jet Home Loans on the 236 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: Jaguars Digital Network. 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The self benefit plans have 271 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: limitations and exclusions. Fires it towards the end zone. DJ 272 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: goes up and gets a chart attack in the corner 273 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: of the end zone. Touchdown to d J Chr, this 274 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: is whole new era. You know, the same logo, same uniform, 275 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: different team. I'm excited to see the transition into something 276 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: even bigger and better. So I'm very excited. Fires the 277 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: deep downfield. He's got a man out there. That's d 278 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: J Tark Tarty. Did you get to the vial o? Yes? 279 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: Did touchdown? Come out to the game. I haven't been 280 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: here for a year, so it's gonna be lit. It's 281 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: gonna be exciting. Um, you've got some playmakers out here, 282 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: you got some ballers, So I mean, you can watch 283 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: it on TV if you want to, But uh, the 284 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: people at the game, I have more fun. So that's 285 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: d J Chark. Of course, Jaguar's wide receiver and yes, indeed, 286 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: SIS season ticket renewals are underway. Existing season ticket members 287 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: need to lock in their seats and demand this sky 288 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: Hi this year. April ninth, that's Friday, is the renewal deadline. 289 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: The Jacks look to play in front of a full 290 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: capacity crowd in one Look for the renewal link in 291 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: your email, visit Jaguars dot com or call nine oh 292 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: four six three three two thousand. Big week around your phone, 293 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: ringing off the hook. You walk around the office, John, 294 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: fired up, everybody's fired up. You know, I just realized 295 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: this is the first time we've shared a desk probably 296 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: in like fifteen or sixteen months, really right, I guess so, yeah, 297 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: we've we've done all these shows virtually or you know, 298 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: I haven't missed it that month. I love you too, John. 299 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: Good morning, J P. Shadrick, John Osan, and Brian Sexton. 300 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: Let's move along one that was an easy one, that 301 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: was like the it is kidding aside, JP, I missed you. 302 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: I don't believe that. Let's go beyond number one now, 303 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: as we normally do on this program. Of course, we 304 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: know what the Jags are probably gonna do with the 305 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: number one pick. How about third round and fourth round picks? Today? 306 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: Let's focus on the sixty and the one oh six 307 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: and all. You know, I'm new to this. You guys 308 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: do this every week, but it is difficult to pinpoint 309 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: names here, John, though, you know you can have an 310 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: idea of the type of player you want. I think 311 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: that's when you're trying to pick and do mock drafts. 312 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: It's tough to do because everything has to happen ahead 313 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: of you. But in that situation, it really needs speed 314 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: and size, right. Yeah. The most amusing thing to me 315 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: every year are the seven round mocks because by round 316 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,239 Speaker 1: six it's purely darts at a board and I get that, 317 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: but um, I don't know the specific names of where 318 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: they'll go here, but I think in the top five picks, 319 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,479 Speaker 1: and this goes down to the top six picks. When 320 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: I say top five, I mean the Jaguars top six picks. 321 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: I can't believe that two or three of that group 322 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: won't be used to make this team faster. Obviously, Trevor Lawrence, 323 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: you getting faster a quarterback. What I'm getting at is 324 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: urban Meyer has talked about speed and explosiveness. Trent Ballky 325 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: talked about being more explosive at the running back because 326 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: Sis and Er and Meyer talked about at the wide 327 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: receiver position. Well, they really didn't do that raw, raw 328 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: speed thing in free agency. Marvin Jones is an addition. 329 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: I don't think he's your speed guy wide receiver. Philip 330 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: Dorset might be. It is very fast, but he's a 331 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: guy that you're not sure what you'll get from him. 332 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: And even if he's a major addition, I don't know 333 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: that he adds the front line speed in the wide 334 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: receiver corps. Certainly they haven't done a running back. I 335 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: believe that out of these top six picks, and when 336 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: it will be tight end, when I will be line 337 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: But then you'll have three skill position guys trying to 338 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: get them very very fast. Some combination of speed in 339 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: those two spots wouldn't surprise me a bit. What do 340 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: you think? Well, look and I we've got some lists 341 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: of players, and here's why we did it. I really 342 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: believe when you get into the third round, you were 343 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: looking at real value positions. And for this Jacksonville team 344 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: that has worked around the perimeter in some ways, I 345 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: think this is where you look for a linebacker, a 346 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: tight end, a guard. Uh. These are guys that can 347 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: come in like a a j can uh and plug 348 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: themselves in and become a long term performer, not a 349 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: star necessarily, So UM receiver obviously a part of that, 350 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: because I think this is a deep wide receiver draft. 351 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 1: But if you throw up the screen, if you can, 352 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: I'm not sure who's in the control room, Trent. I 353 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: think is try throw up the wide receivers for a 354 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: minute there, so you look at the guy right off 355 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: the top in Dnammy Brown, and you know whether he's 356 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: there or not remains to be seen. But my, you 357 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: know our friend, we all know Matt Miller who's got 358 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: his his brand new uh what's he called it, draft Scout, 359 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: the draft scout dot com. He loves Dnammy Brown. He 360 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: thinks he fits. In fact, I think he gave him 361 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: to the Jaguars. He's doing this day by day Mott draft, 362 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: and today he gave him Dynamy Brown because he said, look, 363 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: this is a guy with size, with bead uh and 364 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: a little bit like Deebo Samuel right, not asat, not 365 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: as quick, but a guy with playmaking skill who you 366 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: kind of figure might be there around Seth Williams. I know, 367 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: you guys know and a Mari Rodgers is a guy 368 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: from Clemson. You know these are guys who could be 369 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: there the third, fourth and fifth round. We we bring 370 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: it up and there are names of guards and linebackers 371 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: as well, and all of them kind of fit because 372 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: this is where you get your roster stronger, better, not 373 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: necessarily impact guys in terms of being stars, but guys 374 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: who come in and grow and develop and get better. 375 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: A lot of folks have focused on that tight end 376 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: position here, and rightly so, because Urban Meyers said they 377 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 1: still have some work to do with the pass catching 378 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: tight end spot. And you know, there's a feeling, John, 379 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: I know you, and we've talked to Bucky about this 380 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: a little bit. There's a feeling you don't have to 381 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: go twenty five. You can have a tight end thirty 382 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: three in that second and maybe even into the third 383 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: round window. And I'm sure there are some names there 384 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: that could um that could pop up to John. You 385 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: would think I would think you ad dressed tight end 386 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: a little earlier than this, if you don't. Jordan's tremble 387 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: Hunter along. These are guys you hear about when discussing 388 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: these players, that they are potential contributors. They don't necessarily 389 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: translate into stars according to the draft analysts, but the 390 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: reality of the tight end position, as we've discussed ad 391 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: nauseam on these shows last few weeks, it's it's the 392 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: trickiest position to find. In my opinion, in the draft, uh, 393 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: first round tight ends don't have a great history of 394 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: being big stars. Kelsey Kittle are the two guys who 395 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: are the best in the league right now. We're not 396 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: first round picks. We're not expected to be the players 397 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: that they are today. So most teams find their tight 398 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: ends by taking a guy like from that group and 399 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: having them develop and sort of surprise people. Maybe the 400 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: Jaguars can do that this year. All right, let's come 401 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: back in just a moment. We've gotta cut a little 402 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: short here. Let's come back. The ozone snapshot is right 403 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: around the corner, and we'll wrap things up in just 404 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: a little bit. We are about halfway home. It is 405 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: Jags Drive Time, presented by Jet Home Loans on the 406 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: Jaguars Digital Network. 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With 441 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: the sheer number of signees, how many might you anticipate 442 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: don't make the final roster? Zero? Zero? Yeah, I get 443 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: this question a lot, and I guess it's because they've 444 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: signed some guys in free agency who people aren't that 445 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: familiar with, so they assume, well, their roster uh filler 446 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: their training camp fire. You know, maybe one or two 447 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: don't work out and don't make the final roster. But 448 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: my understanding of my impression is these guys that they've 449 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: signed you know, say Jamal Agne and maybe people haven't 450 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: heard of that much. Um or Damien Wilson who was 451 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: a second wave guy. Um. You know, they have roles. 452 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: The coaching staff looked and the personnel people looked at 453 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: the depth chart, looked at what they had, and they 454 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: decided that they needed guys in certain situations. I don't 455 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: think they went on and paid these guys what they 456 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: paid them, uh, which in some cases wasn't salary, kept 457 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: killing money, but it was it was still asset allocations. 458 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: They didn't do these things with the idea of these 459 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: guys won't make the roster. So I think, you know, 460 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: at a thirteen fourteen, fifteen editions, I'd be surprised if 461 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: more than one isn't here because they have a specific 462 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: thought as to how these guys are gonna be used. 463 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: So I would say zero for right now. That makes sense, Brian, 464 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: you know, and and well, I interpreted the question different, 465 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, over twenty seven years here because of Jacksonville's 466 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: deep college roots. I think people sometimes use the word 467 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: sign e when they mean draft e right because they're 468 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: used to college signing day. So I kind of interpreted 469 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: the question different. And I'll just answer it that way. Um, 470 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: they have eleven picks this year, and I would anticipate 471 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: all eleven make the team as well. Um, you're not 472 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: gonna waste a draft choice on somebody that can't make 473 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: your team. And the evaluation process, even though this year 474 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: it's a bit thin because they didn't get the combine 475 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: and the one on one time that that they had 476 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: hoped to. Um, my expectation is that everybody that they 477 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: signed as a free agent for John's reasons, the money, 478 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: and that they draft as a player, you know, for 479 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: the the equity of the draft choice is they're bringing 480 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: them in to make the team. Yeah, so what is 481 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: the twelve thirteen free agent guys now? Right? Total? Somewhere 482 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: in the whole party will be eleven draft picks maybe, 483 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, and then some unsigned undrafted guys. So you're 484 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: you're pushing the thirty new players on the roster of theft. 485 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: But you usually in the NFL, you usually have one 486 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: turnover even in a normal year for a team that's competitive, 487 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: So to add a few, I'd be surprised if that's 488 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 1: not the number two new guys that it seems reasonable 489 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: to me considering that what they were last year one 490 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: and fifteen. Next question, Josh from Atlanta, Georgia. Do you 491 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: have a writer's sense? Oh boy, careful with that of 492 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: something truly different in terms of culture and organization. From 493 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: the interviews you've done so far, a writer's sense got me. Yeah. 494 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's that high a bar when he 495 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: right down to it, but it's it's uh. I guess 496 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: we can go with that my sense. And I thought 497 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: it to you guys too, because we all talk to 498 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: people again, not as much and not as in depth 499 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: as we would if we were all you non virtual, 500 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: But in the talking to people that I've done, I 501 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: get the sense that there's a new culture. I get 502 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: the feeling that you get your what you would expect, 503 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: which is sort of a new walk. I looked to 504 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: Tashla Point, the defensive line coach, last week, and he 505 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: talked about, you know, the stereo blaring at six in 506 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: the morning when they get in or or whenever they 507 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: get in, and the energy and the excitement, and he said, 508 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: it's what you would want when you have a change 509 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: like this. I think that's right, this is what you want. 510 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: It's gonna be new, it's gonna feel new. In training, camp, 511 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: and then you have to have some success to back 512 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: that up and maintain it. You know, all coaching transition 513 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: always feels different. This one certainly feels more high energy 514 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: because of Urban. It feels different, it feels special. So 515 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: they've got to take that feeling and make it last bright, 516 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: shiny and knew it happens when change happens, Brian, But 517 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: then you have to go back it up with a 518 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: success after it you do. And so from that perspective um, 519 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, not having access to spend time with coaches 520 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: and players, it's it's hard to say there's any tangible 521 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: cultural changes. Yet those won't happen until players are in 522 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: here and whatever rules are in place, whatever processes Urban 523 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: brings in, whatever attitude that he asks for from his team, 524 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: we won't see that until training camp. And John's right, 525 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, you can build all the culture you want. 526 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: They've tried to do that in the past here, but 527 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: unless it wins, the culture is thin and it falls apart. 528 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: My my perspective on this is they have tried, Gus Bradley, 529 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: tried Doug Marone try they were not able to build 530 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: a culture that was sustainable. The thing about this culture 531 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: with this coach and this quarterback is it has the 532 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: appearance of stability on the way except for the ozone 533 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: snapshot today, we'll wrap things up when we return. 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It's Jacks Trying Time, presented 560 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: by jet Hole Loans to check out the Official Jaguars 561 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: Podcast network of free subscription on Apple, iTunes or Spotify. 562 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: This program archived Jaggs reporters on Monday. That was yesterday. 563 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: Huddle Up podcast comes up tomorrow morning, and then we've 564 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: got Happy Our Thursday, and then the Jags broadcast week 565 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: and Friday Zone. You're gonna have a podcast this week, 566 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: the ozone pod Squeeze It In. Darryl Bevil will be uh. 567 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: I believe that will be posted Thursday. J You'll be 568 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: doing the posting my control that we might work on that. 569 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: We're on the desk together today, we can we can 570 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: talk through that, Bryan. You know, busy week, here we go, 571 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: we're three three weeks away. It's it's gonna come in 572 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: quick now until the NFL Draft. It does. And if 573 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: people think that the excitement level is starting to become 574 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: tangible in Jacksonville and his eye witnessed in Tallahassee and 575 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: parts West, just wait till that kid puts his feet 576 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: on the ground here. And if he's gonna be a Clemson, 577 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't here really quickly 578 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: on Thursday. You know, you might see a jet and 579 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: go by and pick him up and bring him down here. Um, 580 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: this thing is going to it's reach a level that 581 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: we haven't seen in Jacksonville. And that is uh, that's 582 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: really really tempting, enticing, exciting. Choose your adjective. I know 583 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: you use him for a living. That's Brian Sexton, John 584 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: Ozier to my left, and you're right. I'm J P. 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