WEBVTT - Don Lemon Charged with the KKK Act?

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<v Speaker 1>Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership with

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<v Speaker 1>Reason Choice Media. Welcome home, everybody. This is episode counted

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<v Speaker 1>one fifteen of Native Lampod, where we give you our

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<v Speaker 1>take on all things political and sometimes a little cultural,

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<v Speaker 1>where we tread into trouble. I'm your host for today,

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Gilliman. Of course, I'm joined by none other than,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the awesome Angela Rai, the self congratulatory Bacari

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<v Speaker 1>sellers and joining us this week as a co host,

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<v Speaker 1>a living legend. I don't know how he feels about

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<v Speaker 1>that title. Host, entrepreneur, creator, journalist dumb An, the one

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<v Speaker 1>and only. Can I call you Carlton? Welcome to the audience, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome along with me, mister Don Lemon himself?

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<v Speaker 2>What's up? Don much? Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited to be on with you guys and see

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<v Speaker 3>how how much trouble I get into.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, well, you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Need no Don is your middle name, Carlton?

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<v Speaker 3>No wondering why you were talking about that is not

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<v Speaker 3>don't believe everything you read on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>What do I want people know? My middle name is Rinaldo.

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<v Speaker 1>Now just from my face back home, So y'all, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be getting into Don's story a little bit more,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of other reasons why he may be in

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<v Speaker 1>the headlines. I don't know, possibly Nicki Minaj, maybe Ku

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<v Speaker 1>Klux Klan act, I don't know. But we'll follow up

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<v Speaker 1>with some questions that we know that you would ask

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<v Speaker 1>if you were with Donna Day. Also today, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take a little bit of a take on whether we

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<v Speaker 1>think Congress is getting a little too old, or if

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<v Speaker 1>it's just been old. Then whether or not, I don't know, is.

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<v Speaker 4>It appropriate to protest in church.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get into that, but before we do, we want to,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, I think, go through what has become a

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<v Speaker 1>favorite with some of our supporters. Thanks to Angela for

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<v Speaker 1>introducing this. It's called for your Situational Awareness FYSA. Because

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<v Speaker 1>we've got a lot of I think news to get

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<v Speaker 1>to and we want to do it quickly, So let's start.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to just focus everybody back on what's probably

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of the headlines and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the cable news, and that's Davos. President Donald Trump was

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<v Speaker 1>in Switzerland to talk to global economic leaders about everything

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<v Speaker 1>economic in some political of course, and y'all, if you

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<v Speaker 1>were looking for the worst reels for Trump as a

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<v Speaker 1>representative of America, you need not go any further than

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<v Speaker 1>right here. Let's roll the clip.

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<v Speaker 5>We never asked for anything, and we never got anything.

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<v Speaker 5>We probably won't get anything unless I decide to use

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<v Speaker 5>excessive strength and force where we would be frankly unstoppable.

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<v Speaker 4>But I won't do that.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, now everyone's saying, oh good, that's probably the biggest

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<v Speaker 5>statement I made because people thought I would use force.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have to use force. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 5>use force. I won't use force. All the United States

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<v Speaker 5>is asking for is a place called Greenland, where we

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<v Speaker 5>already had it as a trustee, but respectfully returned it

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<v Speaker 5>back to Denmark not long ago after we defeated the Germans,

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<v Speaker 5>the Japanese, the Italians and others in World War Two.

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<v Speaker 5>We gave it back to them. We want it big

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<v Speaker 5>Without us. Right now, you'd all be speaking German and

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<v Speaker 5>little Japanese. Perhaps all we want from Denmark for national

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<v Speaker 5>and international security and to keep our very energetic and

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<v Speaker 5>day injurious potential enemies at bay, is this land on

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<v Speaker 5>which we're going to build the greatest Golden dome ever built.

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<v Speaker 5>We're building a golden dome that's going to just by

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<v Speaker 5>its very nature, going to be defending Canada. Canada gets

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of freevious from us. By the way, they

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<v Speaker 5>should be grateful also, but they're not. I watched your

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<v Speaker 5>Prime minister yesterday. He wasn't so grateful that they should

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<v Speaker 5>be grateful to us. Canada lives because of the United States.

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<v Speaker 5>Remember that mark the next time you make your statements.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you'll call that last piece where he says

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<v Speaker 1>to Canada, remember you only exist because of us. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>that mark referring to the Prime Minister of Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>If it wasn't for to be speaking German.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that way, I'll give it to the foot,

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<v Speaker 1>to the group down what you got.

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<v Speaker 3>It's painful to watch him, I mean, how insulting for

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<v Speaker 3>our allies to say, if it wasn't for us, you'd

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<v Speaker 3>be speaking German and he's he's just ranting there. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 3>when is someone going to write a book on his

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<v Speaker 3>cognitive decline because it's obvious that he's something is going

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<v Speaker 3>on because he's just ranting and raving up there. And

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<v Speaker 3>not only did he embarrass himself, but he embarrassed the

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<v Speaker 3>United States. When I was watching that, it made me

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<v Speaker 3>embarrassed to be a United States citizen. Or I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>say it, shouldn't say to be a United States citizen.

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<v Speaker 3>I should say for him to be our president. And

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<v Speaker 3>so there are two things. Go ahead, No, they're two

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<v Speaker 3>things to jump off the screen. Just for some context.

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<v Speaker 6>You do know that the the primary language spoken in

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<v Speaker 6>Switzerland is actually German, right, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>First and second is the height of irony.

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<v Speaker 6>The last time we actually purchased an island or piece

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<v Speaker 6>of property from Denmark, does they might know what it was?

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody? No? No, anybody?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it was an island.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Epstein Island.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven in nineteen seventeen.

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<v Speaker 6>The last the last piece of property we actually purchased

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<v Speaker 6>from Dinm was little Saint James Island also known as

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<v Speaker 6>Epstein Island today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, but Cary he also keeps coming up saying

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<v Speaker 3>that we owned it or whatever. We never actually owned it.

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<v Speaker 3>The United States offered to buy Greenland for like one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred million dollars is back in nineteen forty six.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Denmark said no.

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<v Speaker 3>It was difficult to the Danish Kingdom and important to

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<v Speaker 3>the history and national identity. We never really owned Greenland

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<v Speaker 3>at all, so he's not just not really.

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<v Speaker 1>But the part of getting Epstein's Island the rapist Island

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<v Speaker 1>was in nineteen seventeen was the United States trading that

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<v Speaker 1>island for official recognition from the United States government of

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<v Speaker 1>the Danish territory at the time of Greenland. The worst part, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'm with you, don around the offensiveness of

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<v Speaker 1>the comments related to World War Two. He talks about

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<v Speaker 1>a great ocean between us. We didn't have to get involved,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we sort of did it for y'all, and

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<v Speaker 1>we never get anything in return, and really diminishes the

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<v Speaker 1>huge human toll and sacrifice that that took, not only

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<v Speaker 1>on Europeans but also Americans, over four hundred thousand service members,

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<v Speaker 1>men and women who gave their lives faithfully to protect

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<v Speaker 1>the world the globe against these kind of totalitarian leaders

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<v Speaker 1>with very very outdated ideas around who deserves to live,

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<v Speaker 1>who doesn't, who's human, and who isn't. I just thought, overall,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a horrible, horrible offense. Angela. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you've got anything on this, because I want to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure we talked to the rest of y'all on

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<v Speaker 1>some of your.

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<v Speaker 7>Age geography, because I know we've got to get through

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<v Speaker 7>these clips quick stage geography. His bud was supposed to

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<v Speaker 7>be sitting down for a fireside chat and instead he

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<v Speaker 7>was at a rant at the podium. So that's the

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<v Speaker 7>only stage geography I have. Y'all hit the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 7>We can go to the name.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you're right, because the interviewer was sitting to the

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<v Speaker 3>side off the station, like, well, that's weird. Why are

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<v Speaker 3>there two chairs a guy sitting in one and he's

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<v Speaker 3>at the podium. But I mean, you're giving fun facts

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<v Speaker 3>right about the last time we acquired land, Bacari do

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<v Speaker 3>do you guys know why he really wants Greenland? It's

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<v Speaker 3>not about security. You guys know why he wants to

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<v Speaker 3>be why he wants.

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<v Speaker 2>It right, tell me he wants to go to go Dome. No,

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<v Speaker 2>he wants his face on Mount Rushmore.

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<v Speaker 3>And the folks who are on Mount Rushmore secured their

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<v Speaker 3>legacy and their place, their status to be on Mount

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<v Speaker 3>Rushmore is because they acquired more land and resources, strategic

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<v Speaker 3>land and resources for the United States, and so will

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<v Speaker 3>he wants his big orange face on Mount Rushmore.

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<v Speaker 2>That is it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what they're not telling you. They're giving all these

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<v Speaker 3>shiny objects we needed for security. We don't need it

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<v Speaker 3>for security. We already have military assets there, and they

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<v Speaker 3>said we can put as many there as we want

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<v Speaker 3>want to. He wants to acquire more land and resources

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<v Speaker 3>so he can be on Mountain rush More.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 6>One of the things you brought up was his mental acuity,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's something that I've always been talking about, particularly

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<v Speaker 6>with the light that was shown on Joe Biden and Andrew.

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<v Speaker 6>One of the things that we recognized was that he

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<v Speaker 6>was the oldest person to in the history of the

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<v Speaker 6>United States of America ever run for president. And you know,

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<v Speaker 6>there have been rumors about his health, but I think

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<v Speaker 6>his cognitive decline it is quite evident. I want to

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<v Speaker 6>play this clip that I dropped into the group chat

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<v Speaker 6>the other day just so everybody can see what I'm

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<v Speaker 6>talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hope people evaluate this.

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<v Speaker 5>But when I learned her her parents and her father

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<v Speaker 5>in particular, is like I hope he still is, but

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. Was a tremendous Trump fan. He was

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<v Speaker 5>all for Trump, loved Trump, and uh, you know, it's terrible.

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<v Speaker 5>I was told that by a lot of people. They said, Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>he loves you. He he was, I hoped. I hope

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<v Speaker 5>he still feels that way. Sorry, hard situation, But her

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<v Speaker 5>father was a tremendous and parents were tremendous Trump fans.

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<v Speaker 4>That's so said.

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<v Speaker 5>Just happens.

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<v Speaker 8>It's terrible, not supporters fans, by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, so what we just watched.

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<v Speaker 6>What we just watched was his interview about Renee Good

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<v Speaker 6>after his ice shot her in the face.

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<v Speaker 2>He was, you know, unkilled.

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<v Speaker 6>The reason that I struggle with Donald Trump is because

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<v Speaker 6>he has a heavy dose of narcissism mixed in with

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<v Speaker 6>his psychopathy. And what I posted the other day, don

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<v Speaker 6>and to the group, I mean, I wish that there

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<v Speaker 6>was a New York Times, Wall Street Journal, whatever mainstream

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<v Speaker 6>media source expos a maybe maybe we do it, or

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<v Speaker 6>the Donal Limit Show, or somebody gets four or five

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<v Speaker 6>psychiatrists and somebody tell me what the fuck is wrong

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<v Speaker 6>with him.

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<v Speaker 2>I want some clinicians.

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<v Speaker 6>I want some clinicians to sit back and be able

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<v Speaker 6>to because I don't feel right guessing about people's mental

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<v Speaker 6>health and acuity. But somebody tell me what's wrong with

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<v Speaker 6>him other than just being Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, old people who don't act like that.

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<v Speaker 8>Correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, So we've all had old people in our family

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<v Speaker 3>where we see the moment that you take the car

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<v Speaker 3>keys right, let me they need a nurse.

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<v Speaker 7>Speaking of taking the car keys, we just talked about

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<v Speaker 7>his ice don there's a clip that you wanted to

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<v Speaker 7>get to.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I want to get to this clip, and that

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<v Speaker 3>is in Minneapolis Saint Paul. The lies are breaking through

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<v Speaker 3>with police officers and law enforcement in the area who

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<v Speaker 3>are speaking out because and police chiefs because their off

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<v Speaker 3>duty officers are being harassed and abused by these agents,

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<v Speaker 3>these ICE agents and federal agents that are out in

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<v Speaker 3>the streets play this.

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<v Speaker 9>Recently, as the last two weeks, we as law enforcement

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<v Speaker 9>community have been receiving endless complaints about civil rights violations

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<v Speaker 9>in our streets from US citizens. What we're hearing is

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<v Speaker 9>they're being stopped in traffic stops or on the street

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<v Speaker 9>with no cause and being forced to demand paperwork to

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<v Speaker 9>determine if they are here legally. We started hearing from

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<v Speaker 9>our police officers the same complaints as they fell victim

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<v Speaker 9>to this while off duty. Every one of these individuals

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<v Speaker 9>is a person of color who has had this happen

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<v Speaker 9>to them in Brooklyn Park. One particular officer that shared

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<v Speaker 9>her story with me was stopped as she passed ice

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<v Speaker 9>going down the roadway. When they boxed her in, they

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<v Speaker 9>demanded her paperwork, of which she's a US citizen and

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<v Speaker 9>clearly would not have any paperwork. When she became concerned

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<v Speaker 9>about the rhetoric and the way she was being treated,

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<v Speaker 9>she pulled out her phone in an attempt to record

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<v Speaker 9>the incidant. The phone was knocked out of her hands,

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<v Speaker 9>prevented her from recording it. The officer had their guns

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<v Speaker 9>drawn during this interaction, and after the officer became so concerned,

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<v Speaker 9>they were forced to identify themselves as a Brooklyn Park

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<v Speaker 9>police officer in hopes of slowing the incident and de

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<v Speaker 9>escalating the incident down. The agents then immediately left after

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<v Speaker 9>hearing this, making no other comments, no other apologies, just

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<v Speaker 9>got in their vehicles and left. Many of the chiefs

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<v Speaker 9>standing behind me have similar incidents with their off duty officers.

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<v Speaker 9>If it is happening to our officers, it pains me

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<v Speaker 9>to think how many of our community members are falling

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<v Speaker 9>victim to this every day. It has to stop.

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<v Speaker 3>It has to stop, But it's not going to stop.

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<v Speaker 3>As you saw recently in just the last couple of days,

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump standing at the podium in the briefing room

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<v Speaker 3>with pictures of alleged immigrants or undocumented immigrants with alleged

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<v Speaker 3>criminal histories or criminal records, without giving any evidence of that,

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<v Speaker 3>lying saying they're only going after the really bad people,

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<v Speaker 3>the the criminals, undocumented people. We all know that's a lie,

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<v Speaker 3>and everything else is a deflection and a cover up.

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason people are out there protesting in whatever

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<v Speaker 3>venue they're protesting in is because of the unjust nature

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<v Speaker 3>that these ICE agents and federal agents are acting in

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<v Speaker 3>and they know that they're not using due process. They

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it is their edict to not use due

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<v Speaker 3>process and just to beat people up and to ask them,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, for their papers.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in the United States of America.

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<v Speaker 3>There are people being asked for their papers who are

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<v Speaker 3>United States citizens, are just on the basis of their

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<v Speaker 3>accents or what color their skin is. And I'm glad

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<v Speaker 3>that that head of a police department, and there were

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<v Speaker 3>several there that they're out there telling the truth because

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<v Speaker 3>we don't hear that from this administration. And quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't really hear it enough. I think in mainstream

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<v Speaker 3>media these there's so much both sizing and just putting

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<v Speaker 3>on these liars who come on every single day and

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<v Speaker 3>say we're going after the bad people. All of these

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<v Speaker 3>criminals were taken out of the country. It is Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Biden's open borders, and it's all bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>Don be more right. And in fact, let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>look at this clip that the president was in Dabos

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<v Speaker 1>for other reasons but made some other news about the

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<v Speaker 1>state that we're just discussing. Let's roll it.

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<v Speaker 5>The situation in Minnesota reminds us that the West cannot

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<v Speaker 5>mass import foreign cultures which are failed to ever build

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<v Speaker 5>a successful society of their own. I mean, we're taking

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<v Speaker 5>people from Somalia, and Somalia is a failed it's not

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<v Speaker 5>a nation. Got no government, got no police, got no millie,

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<v Speaker 5>got no nothing. And then we have this fake congress

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<v Speaker 5>person who they just reported is worth thirty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>You believe is elon Omar talking about the Constitution provides

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<v Speaker 5>me she comes from a country that's not a country,

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<v Speaker 5>and she's telling us.

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<v Speaker 2>How to run America. Not going to get away with

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<v Speaker 2>it much longer.

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<v Speaker 8>Let me tell you elon.

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<v Speaker 1>The other coming he makes about that in reference to

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<v Speaker 1>while he went to Minnesota, as he says, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got these people from you know, other cultures, because

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<v Speaker 1>he rails against Europe about their inclusion sort of inclusive

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<v Speaker 1>policies of of immigration, he says, but he says, we've

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<v Speaker 1>been dealing with these boats and getting these pirates from

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<v Speaker 1>stop stealing our ships. The Somalis who we thought were

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<v Speaker 1>low IQ people who happened to uh have a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more IQs. How can they take these ships? And

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<v Speaker 1>then says about this scandal in Minnesota involving some Somalis

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<v Speaker 1>Somali Americans, that they can't be that low IQ if

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<v Speaker 1>they figured out how to swindle that much money away

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<v Speaker 1>from the United States government. Really offensive rate, just openly racist.

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<v Speaker 1>Ship that he said from that stage, and it surta

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<v Speaker 1>to me, explains why they can act without regard to

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<v Speaker 1>the Fourth Amendment, Fifth Amendment, sixth Amendment, the Constitution, due process,

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<v Speaker 1>access to attorneys, even picking up Americans, taking them into

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<v Speaker 1>counties a distant from where he picks them up, and

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<v Speaker 1>when they figure that the US citizens leave them to

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<v Speaker 1>themselves to walk in the snow, back to wherever it

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<v Speaker 1>is that they're trying to get back to.

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<v Speaker 7>This is my regular moment to just remind you all

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<v Speaker 7>that the ring leader of the Minnesota fraud's name is

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<v Speaker 7>Amy Bach, a white woman.

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<v Speaker 8>Carry on board.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure, No, I mean at two points that just drive

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<v Speaker 6>me crazy. He's indicative of it. And like every episode,

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<v Speaker 6>I say the same thing, like nothing happens in a vacuum.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the reason that they want to dumb us down.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the anti intellectualism that's overtaking the country because his

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<v Speaker 6>ahistorical ignorance. It's just it's fascinating and baffling at the

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<v Speaker 6>same time.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we.

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<v Speaker 6>Pride ourselves on having young people in our communities strive

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<v Speaker 6>to the upper echelons and highest level of educational achievement.

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<v Speaker 6>We want you to have this insatiable desire to learn

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<v Speaker 6>as much as possible, and here we have a president

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<v Speaker 6>who's just dumb as hell. Like it's just it's fascinating

0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:11.720
<v Speaker 6>to see that you can make it to be leader

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<v Speaker 6>of the free world that runs contra to everything that

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<v Speaker 6>we have taught our children to be. It's like we're

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<v Speaker 6>living in upside down times and I think that's really frustrating,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think that's disenchanting for a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 6>The second point I make is just kind of quick.

0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:29.800
<v Speaker 6>He's emboldened by And this goes back to a point

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<v Speaker 6>that Don made about showing your papers. Well, Brett Kavanaugh

0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:34.840
<v Speaker 6>said in the opinion, said that they could do this

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<v Speaker 6>because all you were going to have to do is

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<v Speaker 6>show your papers. It would be a quick traffic stop

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<v Speaker 6>on parapact phrasing his opinion. They would let you go

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<v Speaker 6>and going about your business. But when the court's not

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<v Speaker 6>saying anything, when the legislative branch isn't saying anything, when

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<v Speaker 6>the minority party is trying to figure out what to say,

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<v Speaker 6>it kind of brings everything back to Andrew, which is

0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:58.760
<v Speaker 6>people in this country have to want change. And we

0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:02.280
<v Speaker 6>were quiet when they came from Socialist because we weren't socialists.

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<v Speaker 6>We were quiet when they came for Jews because we

0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:07.399
<v Speaker 6>weren't Jews. And then they came for us and there

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<v Speaker 6>was nobody left to speak for me. And so that's

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<v Speaker 6>where we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet, Hey, Don go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just want to say something real quickly. Bacari.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there are people who do teach their kids that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he's everything that could, He's the opposite of

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<v Speaker 3>what we teach our kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's some of us.

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<v Speaker 3>But some of the folks in which we've discovered over

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<v Speaker 3>the last decade or so, teach their kids that they're

0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:37.520
<v Speaker 3>entitled there, that this world belongs to them, no matter if.

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<v Speaker 2>They achieve or not, that they should be.

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<v Speaker 3>The people who get accepted into universities, that they should

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<v Speaker 3>be the first person to get the jobs, regardless of

0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:48.800
<v Speaker 3>their qualification, and if there are minorities or women who

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<v Speaker 3>are more qualified, somehow, it's become a dei situation, diversity equality.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what the means. I'm sorry, you don't like you. No,

0:19:57.680 --> 0:19:59.080
<v Speaker 2>that's you said it. You're right.

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<v Speaker 3>So, yes, there are some of us and that so

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<v Speaker 3>when you said that, it just reminded me of when

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<v Speaker 3>people say this is not us, this is not America.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it is, and so uh we do.

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<v Speaker 3>There are some of us who have to teach our

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<v Speaker 3>kids that you have to be an overachiever in order

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<v Speaker 3>to acquire things in the and to get to a

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<v Speaker 3>certain level of professional, professional level and a personal level.

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<v Speaker 3>But there are others who said, this is our land.

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<v Speaker 3>You people should not be here, and that's why we're

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<v Speaker 3>in the situation that we're in right now.

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<v Speaker 4>All of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I hear you moving on to a lighter topics

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<v Speaker 1>really quickly, and that is why is the NCAA football

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<v Speaker 1>championship team so old? I don't really have a problem

0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:40.000
<v Speaker 1>with this, but Angelo apparently did this one.

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<v Speaker 8>Her car is.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it remains undefeated even after playing the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Miami for the national title in Miami, three oh five,

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<v Speaker 1>my birthplace.

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<v Speaker 2>But folks are.

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<v Speaker 1>Wondering if age really is just a number. Turns out

0:20:55.760 --> 0:21:00.400
<v Speaker 1>the who Jews roster is about the same age as

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<v Speaker 1>a NFL team on average, and that's the age of

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty three. So young. I cannot believe. I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>believe which I am? My old coach Kurt Signette is

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<v Speaker 1>Signetti Natti. Yeah, has no time for the haters.

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<v Speaker 2>He had this to say.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's pretty simple. I win.

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<v Speaker 1>Google me, google me.

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<v Speaker 8>He's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen.

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<v Speaker 6>The Green Bay PA Packers, at a youngest team on

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<v Speaker 6>average in the NFL, are about twenty five years old.

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<v Speaker 6>They made it to the playoffs this year. The average

0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:35.159
<v Speaker 6>age is about twenty three and some change. For the

0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:39.000
<v Speaker 6>Indiana Hoosiers. I mean that is a very very narrow gap.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it shows you that with nil, with the

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<v Speaker 6>transfer portal, with all these things, football is still football.

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<v Speaker 6>And if you get kids that want to be there,

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<v Speaker 6>if you coach them up the right way, if you

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<v Speaker 6>have somebody with the swag is Kurt Signetti, you have

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<v Speaker 6>the pocket of Mark Cuban, who financed all of this.

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<v Speaker 6>Shout out to Mark Cuban for investing in those young

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<v Speaker 6>men and women and being competitive. The pendulum is switched,

0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.400
<v Speaker 6>switched and changed, and now you have fourth and fifth

0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:07.359
<v Speaker 6>year college graduates getting master's degrees, grown men going out there,

0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:11.360
<v Speaker 6>going out there and beating the ass of your Miami Hurricanes.

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<v Speaker 6>But shout out to Miami for at least Megan you.

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<v Speaker 6>But Indiana hasn't won anything since we've been born, and

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<v Speaker 6>so shout out to Indiana. Hoo's just for uh, well,

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<v Speaker 6>all of us except Don So shout out to the

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<v Speaker 6>Indiana for their success in the National championship game.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, hey, Butker, since you got the floor, tell

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<v Speaker 1>us what's going on in Texas? In Texas linebacker, Oh Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, man, that's a horrible toss.

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<v Speaker 6>Andrew, I feel like we in the morning news and

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<v Speaker 6>I'm talking how the fuck is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>This ain't my topic?

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<v Speaker 8>No, no, no, it's all good. I will go ahead

0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:54.880
<v Speaker 8>and read this one another football news.

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<v Speaker 7>Houston Texans linebacker as these As Air made a political

0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:02.760
<v Speaker 7>statement that costs nearly twelve thousand dollars in NFL finds.

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<v Speaker 7>The message stopped the genocide in solidarity with the Palestinian people.

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<v Speaker 8>So why was he being.

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<v Speaker 7>Told that he would be taking out the game? He explains,

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<v Speaker 7>that's roller clip.

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<v Speaker 6>Before palace sign and you could person off.

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<v Speaker 4>You know kids that have been amputated. Were you disappointed

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<v Speaker 4>that the league find.

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<v Speaker 6>You for this?

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<v Speaker 4>I knew, you know that that was a fine.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, I understood what I was doing as far

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<v Speaker 10>as like I mean, for example, Steph, he wears the

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<v Speaker 10>I tape, you know, su As, I know him with

0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:32.919
<v Speaker 10>stuff on it, and they always find you. But I

0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:36.160
<v Speaker 10>was told that if I wore that end of the game,

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<v Speaker 10>I would be pulled out the game. So I think

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<v Speaker 10>that was probably the part that I was confused about

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<v Speaker 10>because I understand that.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a fine. Sure, but you know, I ain't

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<v Speaker 4>never seen stepf get pulled.

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<v Speaker 2>Out the game.

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<v Speaker 10>I tape with writing on it in the truth. So

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, at the end of the day, it's bigger than me.

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<v Speaker 10>One of the things that are going on makes people uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 10>Imagine how those people feel, and I think that's the

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<v Speaker 10>biggest thing. I have no affiliation me, no connection to

0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:04.080
<v Speaker 10>these people, other than the fact that I'm a human being. Right,

0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 10>if you have a heart, dear human being, you can

0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:08.120
<v Speaker 10>see what's going on in the world, and you check

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 10>yourself real quick, braking.

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<v Speaker 4>When I'm walking off this field.

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<v Speaker 10>That's the type of stuff that goes through my head

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 10>that I have to check myself when I'm seeing it.

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<v Speaker 4>Crying about football. What it's people who are dying every

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<v Speaker 4>single day.

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<v Speaker 7>Perspective and awareness, Yes, that's it, you know. According to

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<v Speaker 7>Gaza's health Ministry, more than seventy thousand Palestinians have been

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<v Speaker 7>killed since October twenty twenty three. So I thought it

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<v Speaker 7>was important that this young man is trying to raise

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<v Speaker 7>awareness for what is happening still in Gaza to the

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 7>Palestinian people.

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<v Speaker 1>And unfortunately, truth telling still comes with great consequence. Apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>even a truth that's been told by nearly every international

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:54.719
<v Speaker 1>health organization in the world who agrees that genocide is underway. Angela.

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<v Speaker 7>What you have, well, I still have the floor. I

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<v Speaker 7>guess this is what I want to talk about. Don

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<v Speaker 7>Lemon had to read for Nicki Minaj, and so I

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<v Speaker 7>want to talk about that. Nicki Minaj of course calling

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<v Speaker 7>Don Lemon out his name, coming at him, WHI slurs

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 7>after all that's going on, trying to report the facts

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<v Speaker 7>from the ground in Minnesota. She didn't like him being

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<v Speaker 7>in the church. Imagine Nicki Minaj being a bigger Christian

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<v Speaker 7>than TD Jakes. I can't call it, but here's Don's response.

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<v Speaker 7>This is what happened on Marlo Ja King Day, y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>So people have been asking me about responding to Nicki

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<v Speaker 3>Minaj's unhinged, homophobic tweet about me. I usually don't respond

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 3>to this stuff, but let me just say this, Nicki Minaj,

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<v Speaker 3>stop talking about shit for which you know nothing about.

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:38.159
<v Speaker 2>This is out of your out.

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<v Speaker 3>Of your depth, by the way, and you are a

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 3>homophobic bigot, You don't care about African Americans, and you're

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 3>not an African American.

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<v Speaker 2>From what I know. You are reportedly.

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<v Speaker 3>An undocumented citizen, so you should be deported under Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's rules.

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<v Speaker 8>So Don Lemon, we have you here? I want to

0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 8>know what inspired.

0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:00.600
<v Speaker 2>This sweet first? Can we put the tweet first? Because

0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Nicki Nicki Nicki.

0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:03.440
<v Speaker 8>Be on that to give her. I don't want to

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 8>put that tweet up.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to mad so he could he could

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 2>read again. I just wanted to.

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<v Speaker 3>Paraphrase he she said that she called me don c

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<v Speaker 3>sucking lemon. Uh is disgusting. How dare you? I want

0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 3>that thug in jail. He would never do that to

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<v Speaker 3>any other religion. Lock him up? Okay, a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's let's start. Let's start at the bottom of the page,

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<v Speaker 3>shall we uh? Can we go back to that she said?

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<v Speaker 2>Lock him up now?

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<v Speaker 3>According to the reports, allegedly reportedly Nicki Minaj is came

0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:43.720
<v Speaker 3>she came to this country illegally and she might be undocumented.

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<v Speaker 3>So under her cult leader's rules, Nicki Minaj should be deported.

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:50.879
<v Speaker 3>I should come over to her house and do what

0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:52.760
<v Speaker 3>they do to other people. Throw her on the ground,

0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 3>handcuff her, throw it in the back of a car,

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 3>and deport her. Okay number two, I'm just saying, if she.

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 6>Has let the man burried, let them wrong.

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 3>I want to deportation for black people, for black people

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 3>who disrespect African Americans when she is a visitor in

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:18.120
<v Speaker 3>our country. Yes, and if she supports the man who

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 3>supports deporting people without due process, then yeah, deport her.

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 3>As he said, that's the law and the rules that

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:28.680
<v Speaker 3>she believes in. I said what I said, and I'm

0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:31.640
<v Speaker 3>not changing it. He would never do that to any

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:33.960
<v Speaker 3>other religion. I don't have my book here. I just

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 3>wrote a book on religion that came out and was

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:39.119
<v Speaker 3>a bestseller. I know more about I've forgotten more about

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 3>religion than Nicki Minaj knows who who calls Psalm twenty

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 3>three Sam's when? And when they ask who is what

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 3>is her favorite Bible versus, she says Sam's twenty three.

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, she don't know. That's two two Corinthians. Like

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump said his favorite thing is I want that

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 3>thug in jail. She must be talking about her husband

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 3>and her brother and reportedly allegedly maybe her father. I

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 3>don't know that's what I hear now. I don't know

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 3>about that one.

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 1>But her husband.

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 3>Her husband is a sex offender who was charged with

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:24.120
<v Speaker 3>not registering as a sex offender in twenty twenty one

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:26.439
<v Speaker 3>and had to serve time and pay a fine. I

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 3>believe her brother reportedly allegedly is a pedophile, and so

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:35.160
<v Speaker 3>people believe that she's doing that because she wants leniency

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:37.679
<v Speaker 3>or something, and that's why she's cosied up to the

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 3>maga folks. And she is sitting on stage with Erica Kirk.

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 3>How dare you well, how dare you Nicki Minaj? When

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 3>you this is Nicki Minaj is outside of her capacity

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 3>when commenting on anything other than trash or gossip or garbage.

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 3>And then don Sea sucking lemon is disgusting. If she

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 3>wants to know about disgusting, she should go and just

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 3>turn to the man she sleeps in bed with every

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 3>night and uh.

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 2>Ask his being it was actually convicted.

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 3>And if it is disgusting to be on the sex

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 3>offender register, or ask her brother or whatever it is

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 3>her family member.

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Who is a pedophile. If that's disgusting, that's it. Mm hmm.

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Wow, Well that mic was dropped. This is smoking over here,

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you.

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 8>And we still got more topics? Will we got?

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 6>Andrew I want to throws back up, like, what when

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 6>do you decide to because this is a good question.

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 6>This is something that we all talk about sometimes, but

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 6>when do you decide to respond on versus? Because you

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 6>get a lot of hate your way, and you have

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 6>gotten a lot of hate for a long period of time,

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 6>and you have evolved in a lot of different ways.

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 6>But when do you when do you decide to respond versus?

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 6>When do you sit back and just let it let

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 6>it chill.

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 2>I sit back and let it chill for a lot.

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 2>But you know I don't have to do that anymore.

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of talk about it.

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of response that that's in this body

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 3>that I didn't get out when I worked in mainstream

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 3>media for twenty twenty five years. Twenty five years, if

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 3>not more so, I decided because number one is bubbling up.

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 3>Number two, Nicki Minaj is you have to and I

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 3>don't mean I mean this metaphorically. You have to punch

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:18.720
<v Speaker 3>a bully right in the nose. Right You can't sometimes

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 3>like you and you have to no means no. You

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 3>have to let a bully know that no means no.

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 3>When Donald Trump says I want to annex Greenland, you

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 3>just go no. I said what I said, I'm not

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 3>changing it, and so I think you have to do

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 3>that with Nicki Minaj because she thinks it's funny. And

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 3>also I think it's also important for a journalist support

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 3>to report the hypocrisy and to let people know that

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 3>for those of us with real papers from real universities

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 3>and real degrees, that we studied this and we know

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 3>how to read in ways and sometimes in many different

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 3>languages than people who can put up a tweet that is,

0:30:57.640 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, thirty seconds of something and a picture of

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 3>another thing and they think it's cute. She put up

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 3>a picture of the chucky doll, and I think a

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 3>better something that would better describe the whole situation.

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 2>And who Nicki Minaj.

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 3>Is is a pick me doll that she should have

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 3>put up in that post. Because Nicki Minaj is a

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 3>pick me. She is the definition of what we, especially

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 3>Black people, call a pick me, people who cozy up

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 3>to whiteness because they think that somehow that is going

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 3>to get them somewhere or make them not as black.

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 3>You are not like them, You are one of the

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 3>good ones. She's a pick me. Put a pick me

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 3>doll in there. I choose not to pick her, and

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 3>I think gay people who support her with the homophobic

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 3>thing she said about me and black people as African

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 3>Americans who support her should stop because they are contributing

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 3>to her vileness.

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 7>I think that she's given them access to her Twitter account.

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 7>I'm starting to think that that's not even her tweeting.

0:31:56.640 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 3>She had to shut down her she had to shut

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 3>down her Instagram because she lost the followers after the

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 3>whole Charlie Kirk thing.

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 2>You know what I didn't think about.

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Andrew. I totally forgot about the mansion.

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Did you guys know this thing too? And so I

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 3>did a whole thing on it the other day where

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 3>you have to just let people know about things because

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 3>they think it's cute. She's also involved in a lawsuit

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 3>that she lost because her husband reportedly got into a

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 3>fight with the security guard after the security guard broke

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 3>up a fight reportedly between Nicki Minaj and one of

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 3>her staff members, and her husband reportedly punched the security

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 3>guard in the face. The security guard has a five

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 3>dollars one hundred thousand dollars judgment against them and apparently

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 3>they're not paying it. So they went to court and

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 3>the judge said that they were going to take some

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 3>of her assets, which included the twenty some million dollar mansion.

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 3>And as we are taping this, I think that either

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 3>happens today that she had to pay it or tomorrow.

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 3>So if you want to know what's behind somebody's pantics,

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 3>that's what you have to close.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Bard, No, I want to go. I know

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 2>you said big on it, bid on it. No, we can.

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Let's go bid on it. Let's go buy.

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 3>Just you know what, let's do it. I can raise

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 3>some funds. You want to do it, Bard, I love

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 3>to do it.

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 2>That'd be funny. Take a picture.

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 1>We got.

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 8>We got big topics.

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Well, we got what what what? What? What's up on

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 1>the on the how jams react to the custom piece.

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<v Speaker 8>We'll talk about cussing later.

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 7>But I think because we don't have Don for much longer,

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 7>we should jump into protesting in church and the allegations

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 7>of charging him with.

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 8>The k K K Actum.

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 7>So let us roll this clip from y'all's Assistant Attorney

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 7>General har Meet Dillon and what she had to say

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 7>about prosecuting Don Lemon and others.

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:02.840
<v Speaker 11>It's off limits to go into a house of worship

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 11>to do your little protests. Protests can occur on public property,

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 11>protests can occur outside you know, on a sidewalk, certain sidewalks,

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 11>not all sidewalks. And this is like basic what you

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 11>learn in the first year of law school. There's a

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:18.240
<v Speaker 11>time placed in manner restrictions on the First Amendment write

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 11>a protest, and they were violated here in this case,

0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 11>no question about it. The only question is who was involved,

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:26.879
<v Speaker 11>how many were involved, and how many chargers are going

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 11>to be brought here? Those are the questions.

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 7>So what I think is important here, I just want

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 7>to remind y'all that this all is going down on

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 7>Martin Luther King Day. So your Assistant Attorney General goes

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 7>on a show with this conservative influencer. Earlier in the show,

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 7>talks about potentially prosecuting Don Lemon and others who were

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:46.840
<v Speaker 7>in the church under the KKK Act, also know as

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:50.359
<v Speaker 7>the Enforcement Act of eighteen seventy one eighteen seventy one.

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:53.360
<v Speaker 7>More on that in a second. She later stated that

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Speaker 7>individuals could also be charged under the Freedom of Access

0:34:57.000 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 7>to Clinic Entrances Act. This, I think is a important

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 7>as a backdrop, And we can also pull up the

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 7>tweet nick where the Assistant Attorney General references the FACE Act,

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 7>and there's another from Donald Trump on true social about

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:14.879
<v Speaker 7>what he thinks should happen to protesters who went into

0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 7>this church. So don if you can talk to the

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 7>audience a little bit about why you were in this church,

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.319
<v Speaker 7>whose church it was, and why they thought they saw

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:26.399
<v Speaker 7>fit to even be there.

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:27.400
<v Speaker 8>You were there reporting?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I was there reporting, And I don't even know

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:32.400
<v Speaker 3>the name of the church. I don't even know the

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 3>name of the pastor who was there. But I do

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:41.319
<v Speaker 3>know the name of the pastor who was alleged to

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 3>be and now has been confirmed by the church to

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:47.240
<v Speaker 3>be like the I forget some sort of coordinating agent

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:49.760
<v Speaker 3>or something of ICE, a directing agent of ICE.

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 8>In acting field director.

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 3>Acting right David Easterwood, and that he was a pastor

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 3>in the church. And so that group said that they

0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 3>went there to protest that I didn't even know what

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:04.840
<v Speaker 3>the which what you know, what place they were going.

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 3>It was an organization that people said were doing They

0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:11.359
<v Speaker 3>had sent out a flyer and they were a protest group,

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 3>and they had been protesting what was happening in Minneapolis.

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:15.839
<v Speaker 3>And I was I landed in Minneapolis and said, sure,

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:18.400
<v Speaker 3>I'll go, I'll follow them. I'll just go chronicle what

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 3>they're doing. And so when I found out it was

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 3>a church, I sat back for a bit and I said,

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 3>let them do their thing.

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Did I know they were going to go in there.

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 3>Of course, of course they're going to go in there,

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 3>that's what they do, or go in there around the church. Well,

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't sure if they were going to go inside

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 3>or go around the church or whatever. I didn't know

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:36.400
<v Speaker 3>what their actions would be, but I knew that I

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:39.399
<v Speaker 3>wanted to report on it because that's part of what

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 3>was happening that day. And so when they went into

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 3>the church, I stood there and waited for a bit

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:49.920
<v Speaker 3>and waited and waited, and I saw other members of

0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 3>the press going in, and so I walked in. When

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:56.280
<v Speaker 3>I saw the when when the unrest happened, I walked

0:36:56.280 --> 0:37:00.359
<v Speaker 3>in and and just started started saying, Hey, look this

0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 3>group is over here. It's chaos right there. They're channing this.

0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 3>They're parishioners and church members over here who are upset.

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 2>And let me go over.

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 3>And talk to the pastor, pastor, how do you feel

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:13.839
<v Speaker 3>about this, about this happening in the church. And then

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:15.319
<v Speaker 3>he did this thing, and I went over to one

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 3>of the some of the parishioners, I said, what do

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:18.759
<v Speaker 3>you feel about this? If they said they didn't want

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 3>to talk, I said, I understand, and I moved on

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 3>and uh. And then I talked to the afterwards, the

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 3>members of the group that had organized the protest, and

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 3>that was it. I left and then somehow, yes, somehow,

0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:35.319
<v Speaker 3>I became the face of it. I'm like, I'm not

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:36.880
<v Speaker 3>the face of it. I'm not a protester. And I

0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 3>kept saying to them when people would say, why are

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 3>you going you guys, what do you I said, sir,

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:42.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm not part I'm not one of the protesters.

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm just here. I'm a journalist and I'm here reporting

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:46.319
<v Speaker 2>and that's it. Would you like to say something? And

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 2>then that's it?

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 6>So wow, you know why you're the you know why

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:53.720
<v Speaker 6>you're the face of it because you are Don Lemon.

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 6>That's one two. The KKK at don't even apply.

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:01.879
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what that said.

0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 3>You can't appear on my show anymore because he's not

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:05.440
<v Speaker 3>going to be on any KKK members shows.

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:11.279
<v Speaker 6>It was passed or reconstruction, and the purpose of it

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 6>was to suppress the KKK and protect African Americans. Ironically,

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 6>she's saying she's going to prosecute you using this act.

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:21.480
<v Speaker 6>It was the reason for it was to protect African

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 6>Americans and ensure their access to due process, access to

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 6>hold office, and access to serve on juries.

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Because what was happening was the KKK.

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 6>They were getting together and they were going out and

0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 6>intimidating folk, and they were like, we need to make

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:35.879
<v Speaker 6>sure we keep this from happening. Nothing that you said,

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:38.920
<v Speaker 6>the contours the context of what you said falls under

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:39.799
<v Speaker 6>the KKK Act.

0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:40.400
<v Speaker 2>So that's first.

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 6>Second, nobody should really have an issue with Don Levan

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 6>going in there and covering the movement or covering a protest,

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.239
<v Speaker 6>because journalists cover protests, and I believe you have the

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 6>right to cover it wherever you should or wherever you

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 6>want to. The third thing, though, is where I disagree

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:56.319
<v Speaker 6>with all of y'all, and that I don't think you

0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 6>will believe you should protest in church. I believe that

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:01.920
<v Speaker 6>to be whole ground. I believe that to be sacricaying,

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:05.240
<v Speaker 6>and I actually I don't mind people covering a protest.

0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:08.239
<v Speaker 6>My problem is with the protesters, and the reason being

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 6>is because where do you draw the line. It's an

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 6>extremely slippery slope, and one of the houses of worship

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:15.920
<v Speaker 6>that I find near and dear to my heart is

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 6>Mother Emmanuel Ami. And in January of twenty twenty four,

0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 6>when Joe Biden was in there speaking, it was crashed

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:25.360
<v Speaker 6>by some far left not even far left, but some

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 6>left wing Charleston National protesters. And you know, it was

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 6>just a bunch of older black folks in there trying

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 6>to pray worship and Mother Emmanuel is a sacred place

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:36.880
<v Speaker 6>for a lot of us. I mean, it just warms

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:39.959
<v Speaker 6>our spirit a lot of us and we're not trying

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:42.360
<v Speaker 6>to go to church to have it interrupted by protesters,

0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:44.799
<v Speaker 6>particularly for this or that. And so I just find

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 6>that to be a very slippery slope. If you're like, oh,

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 6>well we can just protest ice, well, who's to keep

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:51.920
<v Speaker 6>somebody from protesting single payer healthcare or whatever it may be?

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:55.759
<v Speaker 6>And that, for me, it's a very personal thing. I'm

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:57.800
<v Speaker 6>not trying tompose it on anybody else. That just crosses

0:39:57.840 --> 0:39:58.160
<v Speaker 6>a line.

0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:00.840
<v Speaker 8>I I don't really agree really quick? Can I.

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:02.759
<v Speaker 2>Can?

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:03.880
<v Speaker 3>I just say one thing and then I'll go, I

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 3>don't disagree with you, but it's not my job. It's

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 3>not my job to judge whether it's appropriate to.

0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Cover it.

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.920
<v Speaker 3>And so as a Christian. Yes, it may be uncomfortable,

0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 3>and I even say that said that in the report.

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 3>I can understand why people are uncomfortable. Here, look at

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:19.400
<v Speaker 3>the kid. People are consoling their children or whatever. I

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:22.279
<v Speaker 3>can understand that. But as a journalist, you know, I mean,

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:24.400
<v Speaker 3>I may have to cover in a war zone. I

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 3>may not agree with what our country is doing, but

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:28.359
<v Speaker 3>it's not my job when I'm covering it to say

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:30.759
<v Speaker 3>that it's my job to cover it and then let

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 3>the people decide, and then I could talk about whether

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 3>it's appropriate or not in another way. So I actually

0:40:35.960 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 3>feel very close to similar as you feel about.

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 12>It without the transparent to Our liberation was fomented in

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 12>the church, the meetings that led to bus boycotts, that

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 12>led to table counter protests that led to uh in

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 12>some cases, the admonishment of our skin folk who were

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 12>not our kinfault.

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Correct. The pastors spoke of it, yes, but not all pastors, right,

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 1>do you remember? Letter from Birmingham jail was directed at

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 1>all those religious, super religious, black, white and otherwise pastors

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 1>who said not here Reverend Jackson.

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 6>Reverend Jackson hated King so much in Chicago he changed

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 6>his door, his address correct.

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:22.239
<v Speaker 2>You're making the point, right.

0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I don't know how we I don't know

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:26.799
<v Speaker 1>how we go from And I'll stop here, Angela, because

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I haven't said much by way of opinion here so far.

0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 1>But it is I don't think one her meet Dylan

0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>ought to be setting up the case for whether or

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:40.680
<v Speaker 1>not protests and churches is or is not correct. This

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 1>is the same woman who would not allow her division

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:49.760
<v Speaker 1>of civil rights we're supposed to ensure to our civil liberties,

0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:53.480
<v Speaker 1>in our civil rights within this here country, decided that

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 1>she wasn't going to investigate the officer who killed Missus Good. Now,

0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:01.279
<v Speaker 1>I know that the facts aim to be laid out,

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 1>but the federal government has already said they're not launching

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 1>an investigation against Missus Good's killer. This is the same

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:14.720
<v Speaker 1>woman who decided to dismiss similarily all of the consent

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 1>decrees that precessed her from the last administration, holding those

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:25.319
<v Speaker 1>communities accountable who had committed atrocious violations of civil rights

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:29.040
<v Speaker 1>acts all around the country. She's got no grounds to

0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:32.960
<v Speaker 1>tell us what is and is not appropriate. I'm deeply

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:35.319
<v Speaker 1>offended by the fact that she even gets to carry

0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:37.960
<v Speaker 1>this title, and certainly that we have to refer to

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:41.440
<v Speaker 1>her as a Department of Justice deputy, because this department

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 1>is anything but just that's not what they represent, So

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:46.480
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't get to set up this frame for me.

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I reject that, but I just want us to keep

0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:53.399
<v Speaker 1>in mind and consider what if this were different day

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:56.200
<v Speaker 1>in time, And quite frankly, it feels like maybe similar

0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:58.319
<v Speaker 1>day in time, but a different day in time, say

0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:02.920
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty eight, fifty four, nineteen sixty sixty three, at

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 1>a different part of the country, would we be clamoring

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:09.879
<v Speaker 1>for our church spaces to be the places in which

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 1>we not only organize, but also go to protests, to

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:16.040
<v Speaker 1>let our voices be heard, to fight amongst each other,

0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:18.719
<v Speaker 1>before we then descend out into the streets with a

0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:23.239
<v Speaker 1>unified voice and message to move our communities forward the history.

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Now with none of that, I'm not being selective about

0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:31.120
<v Speaker 1>the fact that there are some places where you have

0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 1>to go. Paula White here in Florida, how you going

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:38.320
<v Speaker 1>to hold up the Gospel of Christ on Sunday and

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 1>then on Monday you are treading barbs against our communities,

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 1>all of our communities as you pretend to be pastoral

0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 1>moral advisor to President Trump. It just doesn't sink.

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 2>So I listen.

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 6>My point is, I agree with, as we oftentimes find ourselves,

0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 6>about seventy five percent of what you said. I agree

0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 6>with the offensive nature of the Associate Attorney General. I

0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:04.880
<v Speaker 6>think she's out of her depth. I don't think she

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 6>deserves her job all of those things. I think that

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 6>her interpretation of the KKK Act is like somebody just

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:11.799
<v Speaker 6>told her that before she went on air, right, I mean,

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:14.200
<v Speaker 6>it's just flatly wrong. But again, we're going back to

0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:16.720
<v Speaker 6>the point that they can be mediocre and still achieve

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:18.680
<v Speaker 6>these high levels of power. We covered that a little

0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:21.719
<v Speaker 6>bit earlier. But I think that you are highlighting and

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:25.240
<v Speaker 6>conflating two issues, like, yes, the church was the central

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:28.319
<v Speaker 6>meeting point. Yes, the church was a point of organization. Yes,

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 6>the church was a place where you could go out

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:33.200
<v Speaker 6>and articulate from the well of the pulpit. Nobody does

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 6>that better right now than Rafael Warnot. Right Ebenezer, a

0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:38.840
<v Speaker 6>Baptist church. Rafael Warnot goes up there and he talks

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:42.400
<v Speaker 6>about the scripture. Equates that to making sure that we

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:44.880
<v Speaker 6>understand Sunday is not the only day that we do this,

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 6>making sure that we're out there doing God's work Monday

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:50.920
<v Speaker 6>through Saturday, basically relying on the Scripture as a blueprint.

0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:52.160
<v Speaker 2>I agree with all of that.

0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:54.840
<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying in protesting to the treads on.

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Us, right, Yeah, I know.

0:44:56.600 --> 0:45:00.359
<v Speaker 6>But but what bothers me though, is in that house

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 6>of worship, a place where we were stripped of everything

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 6>that we had when we came here except faith, where

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:08.200
<v Speaker 6>we hold it to be sacricanct, where we hold it

0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 6>to be a place of home. And yes we can

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 6>argue in bicker, because black folks bicker and arguing the

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:14.879
<v Speaker 6>church more than anywhere else.

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:16.360
<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying, though, is.

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:19.440
<v Speaker 6>For an outside body, because that's what a protest is,

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 6>to come in, to come into our church and your body,

0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 6>to come come come into our home, regardless of what

0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:29.800
<v Speaker 6>it may be, and to protest somebody.

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:33.120
<v Speaker 2>That's what can we get to behind why you feel that?

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:36.319
<v Speaker 8>I really want to chime in here because I think

0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 8>that there's go ahead.

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 2>No, I was just going to say.

0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:41.400
<v Speaker 6>The why is that I don't feel like we have

0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:44.640
<v Speaker 6>many spaces that are our own. I don't feel that

0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:47.840
<v Speaker 6>we have spaces that we can have a certain level

0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:50.759
<v Speaker 6>of peace. I don't feel like there are spaces where

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 6>you can go in and rest in your thoughts, in

0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:56.759
<v Speaker 6>your faith, in your worship. I mean, I go sit

0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 6>at Potter's house and be up there crying in that moment.

0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:01.279
<v Speaker 6>The last thing I want somebody to do is comeing

0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:04.120
<v Speaker 6>in and protest because I don't like Bernie Sanders, like

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:07.560
<v Speaker 6>that is for me something that I find to be

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:11.600
<v Speaker 6>mine and my Lord, and I want to have that time.

0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:14.399
<v Speaker 6>And I just I ain't protesting in nobody's church.

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 7>I'm just going to tell you this, Like there's a

0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:22.400
<v Speaker 7>difference between fascism faith and black liberation theology. And so

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:25.000
<v Speaker 7>I think that the main thing that we're we're conflating

0:46:25.080 --> 0:46:28.120
<v Speaker 7>here now is that all places of worship are made equal.

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 7>I want to remind the audience that the purpose of

0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:35.400
<v Speaker 7>this particular protest is because David Easterwood, who is a

0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:39.720
<v Speaker 7>pastor at City's Church, is the field director, the acting

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 7>field director for Saint Paul, the Ice for Ice in

0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:48.160
<v Speaker 7>Saint Paul, renee Good was killed. The protest was because

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:51.799
<v Speaker 7>renee Good was killed or that man's leadership.

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 8>And so it would be one thing if they were

0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:55.520
<v Speaker 8>protesting scripture.

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:58.080
<v Speaker 7>It would be one thing if they were protesting the

0:46:58.160 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 7>fact that they didn't like this particular path because they

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:04.040
<v Speaker 7>don't like what he preached about last Sunday. It would

0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:06.520
<v Speaker 7>be another thing as well, Bakari, if people went to

0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:10.400
<v Speaker 7>Mother Emmanuel to protest the fact that Dylan Rufe.

0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 8>Didn't get a big enough cheeseburger.

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<v Speaker 7>On the other side of killing the parishioners at Bible study,

0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:20.240
<v Speaker 7>what we're talking about are people who are protesting because

0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:21.479
<v Speaker 7>their lives are at risk.

0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:24.160
<v Speaker 8>What we're talking about is people who took on the

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:25.360
<v Speaker 8>mantle of Jesus.

0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:28.920
<v Speaker 7>In Matthew twenty one, verses twelve and thirteen when he

0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 7>flipped the tables over. We're talking about protesting Pharisees and Sadducees,

0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:36.080
<v Speaker 7>not gentiles who don't know any better. We're talking about

0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 7>protesting people who act under the color of law, people

0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:43.360
<v Speaker 7>who were acting under fake moral authority. Not what is

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:46.320
<v Speaker 7>biblically true, Not what is loving your neighbor as yourself,

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 7>Not what is feeding the poor, not what is taking

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:51.840
<v Speaker 7>care of the migrants, Not what is taking care of

0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:52.959
<v Speaker 7>people who are.

0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 8>In prison, incarcerated and being done wrong. Clothing the naked.

0:47:56.680 --> 0:47:59.399
<v Speaker 7>They took a naked man outside of his house, fresh

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:01.440
<v Speaker 7>out of the shop, hour with this ice.

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:05.920
<v Speaker 8>So I think that we've got to differentiate between.

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<v Speaker 2>But how do you differentiate how how do you my pointing.

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:14.239
<v Speaker 8>It's immoral protesting? What is it moral under the color

0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:14.880
<v Speaker 8>of the cloth.

0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 6>But I mean, you we just had a protest. We

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:19.799
<v Speaker 6>had a protested mother emanual. It wasn't about a cheeseburger.

0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:23.040
<v Speaker 6>We had these cars came in and Joe Biden is,

0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:24.120
<v Speaker 6>why do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Think of church's off limits? Why is it?

0:48:26.280 --> 0:48:28.719
<v Speaker 3>Why is that off limits? Do we deem religion to

0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 3>be off limits? Because that's problematic too, because you ever know,

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't think religion because God said so, And then

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:35.440
<v Speaker 3>you go, I don't think that.

0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:37.640
<v Speaker 2>Religion is off said so for slavery.

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 6>I mean I think I think I don't think religion

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:41.239
<v Speaker 6>is off limits. I mean, in fact, I think that

0:48:41.520 --> 0:48:43.520
<v Speaker 6>religion as a vessel for protest. I mean, I just

0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 6>took my kids out to see the Buddhist monks that

0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:49.360
<v Speaker 6>are traveling from Houston, Texas. They're walking twenty three hundred miles,

0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:51.799
<v Speaker 6>and I just you know, it's not my religion, it's

0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:53.520
<v Speaker 6>not my faith, but I wanted my kids to be

0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:55.839
<v Speaker 6>able to be a part of that movement. See things

0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:57.719
<v Speaker 6>they got a chance to meet the monks, meet a local,

0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:00.799
<v Speaker 6>the little dog. But my point is this, we're we're

0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:04.560
<v Speaker 6>setting this arbitrary red line, or this arbitrary line that

0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:08.279
<v Speaker 6>houses of worship, and that that is what that is

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:10.320
<v Speaker 6>what bothers me. I mean houses of worship.

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<v Speaker 1>You you established the red line. I don't believe there

0:49:15.800 --> 0:49:16.239
<v Speaker 1>is a line.

0:49:16.640 --> 0:49:17.920
<v Speaker 2>No, that's but no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 6>But I'm responding to Angela because Angela. Angela was dictating

0:49:21.719 --> 0:49:24.680
<v Speaker 6>that all churches are not created equal, which although I agree,

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:28.520
<v Speaker 6>although trust me, I do agree with who is who

0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:30.400
<v Speaker 6>is the arbiter of that line?

0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Who?

0:49:31.080 --> 0:49:32.440
<v Speaker 2>My line is very clear.

0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:35.200
<v Speaker 8>Means I think it's God. I think it's God, and

0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:36.000
<v Speaker 8>it's the guy in me.

0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I think that.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I understand how you feel as a Christian, as

0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:43.239
<v Speaker 3>a as a practicing Christian. I understand how you feel

0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:45.360
<v Speaker 3>about that. But I would also have to ask you

0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:51.000
<v Speaker 3>about what if there were people whose children had been

0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:53.800
<v Speaker 3>abused by priests. Would you not want them to go

0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:58.240
<v Speaker 3>into a Catholic church and say that man abused my child,

0:49:58.719 --> 0:50:02.680
<v Speaker 3>that man sexually sulted mynd nine or ten or seven whatever?

0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:04.600
<v Speaker 3>Would it be like, Oh, you can't tell your truth

0:50:05.040 --> 0:50:06.560
<v Speaker 3>because you just can't go into a church.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I mean I think you can go Like I

0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:12.040
<v Speaker 6>think that if you have a child who is a

0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:15.000
<v Speaker 6>victim of child sex abuse, like in your example, and

0:50:15.160 --> 0:50:18.120
<v Speaker 6>you are someone who stands up and says, in that spirit,

0:50:18.200 --> 0:50:20.520
<v Speaker 6>it comes over you and you tell and you speak

0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 6>your truth in that moment, right, that is what the

0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:25.719
<v Speaker 6>church is for. If you're speaking your truth, that is

0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:28.520
<v Speaker 6>what the church is for. Organ But hold on, hold on.

0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:30.600
<v Speaker 6>And he was also talking about a member of that

0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:33.719
<v Speaker 6>church or somebody who had a relationship with that church.

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<v Speaker 2>Relevantly, what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 6>What I'm talking about is creating an outside entity that

0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:42.120
<v Speaker 6>has no affiliation with the church at all and protesting

0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:43.919
<v Speaker 6>that church or inside that church.

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:48.799
<v Speaker 3>I mean, what if it's a group of people who

0:50:49.800 --> 0:50:53.600
<v Speaker 3>are protesting against child's sex abuse and some of the

0:50:53.680 --> 0:50:55.479
<v Speaker 3>child sex abuses are in that church.

0:50:56.920 --> 0:50:58.920
<v Speaker 6>I mean, look, I think that we can go down

0:50:59.000 --> 0:51:01.960
<v Speaker 6>this path and have the have these exceptions, and I

0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:03.439
<v Speaker 6>think that there are places.

0:51:03.120 --> 0:51:05.800
<v Speaker 8>In times perceptions, there are places in tops.

0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, we start trying, we're trying to create more exceptions too.

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<v Speaker 6>But my my biggest, my biggest, my biggest problem, my

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:17.000
<v Speaker 6>biggest problem is that we're we are saying that this

0:51:17.239 --> 0:51:20.440
<v Speaker 6>is okay, this is this is okay because this is

0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:23.520
<v Speaker 6>an issue that drives us. This is okay because we're

0:51:23.600 --> 0:51:26.280
<v Speaker 6>all four of us are completely outraged by the behavior

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:28.719
<v Speaker 6>of Ice. That is a similarity, and that is a

0:51:28.760 --> 0:51:32.080
<v Speaker 6>message that all of us convey today. Ice is fucking

0:51:32.200 --> 0:51:33.719
<v Speaker 6>up and destroying people's neighborhoods.

0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:34.440
<v Speaker 2>I agree with that.

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:39.160
<v Speaker 6>However, when Andrew gillim or Bacari Sellers or Angela r

0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:41.759
<v Speaker 6>speak at the next church and we are rolling through

0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:44.760
<v Speaker 6>talking about the pain and the fight for Black liberation,

0:51:45.360 --> 0:51:50.440
<v Speaker 6>and then you have a group of Moms for liberty,

0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:53.359
<v Speaker 6>have no affiliation with that church, come in the church

0:51:53.440 --> 0:51:53.960
<v Speaker 6>and say.

0:51:54.239 --> 0:51:56.640
<v Speaker 2>You niggas are bad for society.

0:51:56.960 --> 0:51:59.080
<v Speaker 1>If they want life, if they wanted to shoot their

0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:03.800
<v Speaker 1>shot in that way, come on right. Because because the

0:52:04.200 --> 0:52:08.520
<v Speaker 1>environment will curate its own experience and make the choice,

0:52:09.560 --> 0:52:14.400
<v Speaker 1>we don't get to be selective about what issue necessitates protests.

0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I think church as a venue. I think whatever it is,

0:52:18.880 --> 0:52:22.680
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, because people don't generally just randomly show

0:52:22.760 --> 0:52:26.439
<v Speaker 1>up in churches to protest for no reason. Usually people

0:52:26.520 --> 0:52:29.840
<v Speaker 1>are engineered by something that has occurred. There is usually

0:52:29.920 --> 0:52:33.600
<v Speaker 1>a connection and that provides the moral clarity for the

0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:35.880
<v Speaker 1>people who are part of that protest to be in

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:39.720
<v Speaker 1>that place at that time. I just think in today's society,

0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:41.799
<v Speaker 1>and quite frankly for our community, it's been that way

0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:45.560
<v Speaker 1>since jump in this country. But in today's society, uh,

0:52:45.960 --> 0:52:53.160
<v Speaker 1>where churches, particularly white evangelical churches, are organizing politics, organizing

0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:57.640
<v Speaker 1>centers of politics. I don't understand how we then draw

0:52:57.719 --> 0:53:00.440
<v Speaker 1>the line. But you said twice, and it's can use

0:53:00.480 --> 0:53:03.960
<v Speaker 1>a church to organize a protest, you just can't execute

0:53:04.000 --> 0:53:04.279
<v Speaker 1>one thing.

0:53:04.640 --> 0:53:05.800
<v Speaker 2>You've said this twice.

0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:09.000
<v Speaker 6>Can you name me throughout history using your civil rights

0:53:09.600 --> 0:53:12.680
<v Speaker 6>direct line and metaphor, can you name me an organized

0:53:12.719 --> 0:53:16.040
<v Speaker 6>protest that black folks have had in opposition inside of

0:53:16.120 --> 0:53:16.880
<v Speaker 6>the house of worship?

0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:20.840
<v Speaker 3>You know, we people have to integrate churches and integrating

0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:24.520
<v Speaker 3>black people, innovating churches and going in I am the churches.

0:53:24.560 --> 0:53:25.480
<v Speaker 2>That's a form of protest.

0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about large scale I'm not talking about

0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:31.840
<v Speaker 1>large scale movement, march on Washington type stuff. That's what

0:53:31.920 --> 0:53:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I have been a part of congregations where people have

0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:39.240
<v Speaker 1>come in and protested, including I've seen in my community

0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:41.560
<v Speaker 1>people who have come in and protested the pastor who

0:53:41.800 --> 0:53:45.120
<v Speaker 1>is sleeping with uh uh, this.

0:53:45.360 --> 0:53:47.960
<v Speaker 2>This person's history. I'm not about.

0:53:49.480 --> 0:53:52.520
<v Speaker 1>You to curate you're trying to This.

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<v Speaker 7>Is also inner churches, because then the inn church beef

0:53:56.880 --> 0:54:01.240
<v Speaker 7>is that they are not abiding. We literally have someone

0:54:01.600 --> 0:54:03.600
<v Speaker 7>who is the pastor of the church.

0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Facilitating go ahead. I'm sure.

0:54:08.520 --> 0:54:10.320
<v Speaker 7>Well, all I'm saying is this, let me just reference

0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:13.239
<v Speaker 7>the law. Because you reference Kkkact, we know that was

0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:17.880
<v Speaker 7>created under reconstruction. But also this Assistant Attorney General references

0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:21.000
<v Speaker 7>the freedom of access to clinic entrances active nineteen ninety four.

0:54:21.160 --> 0:54:23.520
<v Speaker 7>You know the sponsor was the late Ted Kennedy. The

0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:27.280
<v Speaker 7>reason I'm bringing this up is as a compromise, places

0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:30.880
<v Speaker 7>of worship were integrated into this particular legislation. But this

0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:34.479
<v Speaker 7>was really about people who are defacing clinics where people

0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:39.200
<v Speaker 7>were getting abortions. Now they say specifically in this bill

0:54:39.360 --> 0:54:42.520
<v Speaker 7>that there's nothing in here that should be taking away

0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:46.520
<v Speaker 7>activities protected by free speech or free exercise clauses the

0:54:46.560 --> 0:54:49.360
<v Speaker 7>First Amendment, and I think that it is very important

0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:52.080
<v Speaker 7>that we decipher between the two. We can feel disrespected,

0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:55.360
<v Speaker 7>we can feel afraid, we can feel concerned that people

0:54:55.400 --> 0:54:57.919
<v Speaker 7>are in places that we normally deem sacred, but which

0:54:57.920 --> 0:55:00.680
<v Speaker 7>should be more sacred than anything else else in this

0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:03.280
<v Speaker 7>life in this country, is life itself.

0:55:03.719 --> 0:55:05.520
<v Speaker 8>And this woman's life was taken from her.

0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:08.680
<v Speaker 7>So these pro life people at this city's church, and

0:55:08.760 --> 0:55:12.680
<v Speaker 7>they're acting Ice director, who is also their pastor, should

0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:15.439
<v Speaker 7>have to make a statement, should have to be clear

0:55:15.560 --> 0:55:18.680
<v Speaker 7>about where they stand in this. Donald Trump is even saying, well,

0:55:18.719 --> 0:55:21.360
<v Speaker 7>Ice has made some mistakes. He's being very cavalier about it,

0:55:21.719 --> 0:55:24.040
<v Speaker 7>but at least he's even acknowledged that they've made mistakes.

0:55:24.160 --> 0:55:26.680
<v Speaker 7>This pastor's not doing that, and I thntion our folks

0:55:26.760 --> 0:55:30.000
<v Speaker 7>have every right to demand that he says something, if

0:55:30.120 --> 0:55:32.240
<v Speaker 7>nothing else, an apology to her family.

0:55:32.560 --> 0:55:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Angel I just I agree with you. I simply just

0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:39.520
<v Speaker 1>want to align myself with I am issue agnostic about

0:55:39.560 --> 0:55:42.480
<v Speaker 1>what the protests may be or may be about. I

0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:44.440
<v Speaker 1>understand that there are many of us who hold in

0:55:44.520 --> 0:55:48.080
<v Speaker 1>our hearts, our churches sacrasanc. There are people who also

0:55:48.280 --> 0:55:52.200
<v Speaker 1>hold their traffic time, the streets that they go on

0:55:52.320 --> 0:55:54.840
<v Speaker 1>to get from and to work sacri sank and do

0:55:54.960 --> 0:55:56.480
<v Speaker 1>not believe you should be able to come into the

0:55:56.560 --> 0:55:59.880
<v Speaker 1>intersection and disrupt that protest is fine, So long as

0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:02.440
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't disrupt me. But the meaning of protest, the

0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:05.800
<v Speaker 1>very essence of why we do it, is to shake

0:56:05.880 --> 0:56:08.840
<v Speaker 1>you out of your normal to do something so drastic,

0:56:09.040 --> 0:56:13.200
<v Speaker 1>so different, so capturing, and quite frankly out of place,

0:56:13.280 --> 0:56:16.759
<v Speaker 1>for the moment that I hold your attention, so that

0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:18.520
<v Speaker 1>you get to hear what it is that I have

0:56:18.680 --> 0:56:22.279
<v Speaker 1>to say. Again, I think, obviously, I consider my church

0:56:22.360 --> 0:56:25.560
<v Speaker 1>base sacred, my prayer time sacred, o my home sacred,

0:56:25.760 --> 0:56:29.280
<v Speaker 1>and so many other things, and there are laws around.

0:56:29.000 --> 0:56:29.360
<v Speaker 4>All of that.

0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:32.640
<v Speaker 1>But protest, by its essence, at its depth, at its

0:56:32.840 --> 0:56:36.399
<v Speaker 1>very meaning, is to frankly, to cause you to say

0:56:36.600 --> 0:56:39.960
<v Speaker 1>a man or ouch, And more of us will likely

0:56:40.080 --> 0:56:43.399
<v Speaker 1>say ouch, because it is happening out of our comfort zone.

0:56:43.560 --> 0:56:44.479
<v Speaker 1>And that is the point.

0:56:45.480 --> 0:56:49.080
<v Speaker 3>I agree with her, whether I agree with her or

0:56:49.160 --> 0:56:51.040
<v Speaker 3>you agree with it, and I am torn. I have

0:56:51.120 --> 0:56:53.920
<v Speaker 3>mixed feelings about it. I still believe that my role

0:56:53.960 --> 0:56:56.839
<v Speaker 3>as a journalist, not as a protester, is protected under

0:56:56.880 --> 0:57:01.360
<v Speaker 3>the First Amendment, and it be chronicled, should be chronicled, because.

0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:02.520
<v Speaker 2>Then you don't know what.

0:57:02.719 --> 0:57:06.279
<v Speaker 3>Imagine if there were no journalists there and it was

0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:08.879
<v Speaker 3>not chronicled, and if it was not recorded, they could

0:57:08.880 --> 0:57:10.719
<v Speaker 3>have made things up about what the protesters did. The

0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:12.560
<v Speaker 3>protesters could have made things up about and now you

0:57:12.640 --> 0:57:14.759
<v Speaker 3>see it all on camera. And that is the role

0:57:14.880 --> 0:57:15.560
<v Speaker 3>of a journalist.

0:57:15.719 --> 0:57:18.240
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, and we need you, We need you in

0:57:18.320 --> 0:57:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the first Amendment also needs you, and we also need Congress, but.

0:57:21.320 --> 0:57:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Do they need to be We also need Jesus. But

0:57:25.880 --> 0:57:27.920
<v Speaker 2>I was just I think we all four of us

0:57:27.960 --> 0:57:28.400
<v Speaker 2>will agree.

0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:30.920
<v Speaker 6>You walk up and protesting the black church, your experience,

0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:33.200
<v Speaker 6>to use term will be curated.

0:57:34.160 --> 0:57:35.040
<v Speaker 1>That's now.

0:57:36.480 --> 0:57:37.520
<v Speaker 8>Outside of the protest.

0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:42.840
<v Speaker 2>But put some flyers on the cars. Don't come up here.

0:57:42.880 --> 0:57:43.520
<v Speaker 2>That's what I said.

0:57:43.560 --> 0:57:45.880
<v Speaker 1>If you feel a real froggy, you want to leap, Okay,

0:57:45.960 --> 0:57:46.480
<v Speaker 1>you go ahead.

0:57:49.720 --> 0:57:51.560
<v Speaker 3>When you walk into the church, there's a big sign

0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:53.200
<v Speaker 3>on the door that says, don't start.

0:57:53.320 --> 0:58:04.800
<v Speaker 13>None who cares about truth and.

0:58:04.880 --> 0:58:06.120
<v Speaker 4>The loss more than saying it.

0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:12.600
<v Speaker 7>So according to NBC News, twenty four members of Congress

0:58:12.640 --> 0:58:14.800
<v Speaker 7>are eighty four or older, and more than half of

0:58:14.880 --> 0:58:16.040
<v Speaker 7>them are running for reelection.

0:58:16.320 --> 0:58:17.360
<v Speaker 8>But Kari and I got.

0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:20.760
<v Speaker 7>Into a heated discussion about this just briefly, and so

0:58:20.840 --> 0:58:22.120
<v Speaker 7>I was like, well, you know, we should run that

0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:24.240
<v Speaker 7>thing back into the show. So I want to talk

0:58:24.680 --> 0:58:28.760
<v Speaker 7>very quickly about the aging of our Congress and whether

0:58:28.840 --> 0:58:31.080
<v Speaker 7>or not age is nothing but a number or if

0:58:31.120 --> 0:58:34.000
<v Speaker 7>it's all the numbers. Clearly we see the impact of

0:58:34.080 --> 0:58:38.040
<v Speaker 7>age on Donald Trump's presidency. People talked about it quite

0:58:38.040 --> 0:58:41.840
<v Speaker 7>a bit with Joe Biden's presidency. Don I got to

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<v Speaker 7>hear from you, what do you think about the age

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<v Speaker 7>of our Congress.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I don't want to seem like I'm straddling the

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<v Speaker 3>fence here, but I think you need a combination of both.

0:58:51.600 --> 0:58:55.080
<v Speaker 3>I think that I think there's time for some people

0:58:55.160 --> 0:58:57.360
<v Speaker 3>to just say, you know, there comes a time we

0:58:57.440 --> 0:59:00.360
<v Speaker 3>have to say so long, like Carol Burnett said so

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<v Speaker 3>And I think we have to make room for young

0:59:02.520 --> 0:59:06.320
<v Speaker 3>people with pressure ideas, because that's how if you ever

0:59:06.360 --> 0:59:08.680
<v Speaker 3>hang around a young person like my social media team

0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:12.360
<v Speaker 3>keeps me young and they have great ideas. And a

0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:14.760
<v Speaker 3>lot of the folks who are the old folks don't

0:59:14.840 --> 0:59:18.680
<v Speaker 3>understand where the world is going AI, you know, streaming

0:59:18.760 --> 0:59:22.640
<v Speaker 3>computers and all of that. But I believe there is

0:59:22.840 --> 0:59:25.400
<v Speaker 3>one thing that older people have that we can't buy,

0:59:25.840 --> 0:59:28.960
<v Speaker 3>and that's wisdom. And I think we have to respect

0:59:29.200 --> 0:59:32.960
<v Speaker 3>that wisdom. And also you have to respect experience because

0:59:33.080 --> 0:59:35.600
<v Speaker 3>there are things that people with experience, they've gone through

0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:38.560
<v Speaker 3>one hundred times before, and they know how to deal

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<v Speaker 3>with it.

0:59:39.000 --> 0:59:39.960
<v Speaker 2>They know how to deal with.

0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:43.400
<v Speaker 3>Pressure and pain and grief and all of those things

0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:46.000
<v Speaker 3>that one of the younger souls may not be able

0:59:46.040 --> 0:59:48.760
<v Speaker 3>to deal with as well. So I think you need both.

0:59:48.840 --> 0:59:50.960
<v Speaker 3>You need the old one, you know, each one, teach one.

0:59:51.520 --> 0:59:53.240
<v Speaker 3>I think you need some of the older folks to

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<v Speaker 3>do that and some of the younger folks to come in.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do believe that we need more young people.

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<v Speaker 3>They are younger voices, pressure ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 8>I hear that, Bakari. So you want to get rid

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<v Speaker 8>of all the old people? So what you got?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean I'm somewhat with donnad. First of all, every

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<v Speaker 6>eighty year old, all eighty year olds aren't equal. I

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<v Speaker 6>think we all know that, right. I think that we

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<v Speaker 6>see that in our own lives. You have these eighty

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<v Speaker 6>year olds.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>I was looking at the other day Llkuj's mama, right.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if y'all saw that picture. He was

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<v Speaker 6>celebrating a birthday, I believe, and she was. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>they said, I don't want to guess the age, but

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<v Speaker 6>she was she was up there, right, but she looked amazing,

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<v Speaker 6>like she looked like she had to be fifty years old.

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<v Speaker 6>So every eighty year old is not equal. And we're

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<v Speaker 6>we're not talking about casting folk aside. There are two

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<v Speaker 6>issues that I have, particularly with black leadership in the

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<v Speaker 6>aging One both in our church. We've been church heavy

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<v Speaker 6>in this program, but both in our church and our

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<v Speaker 6>civic organizations as well as our politics. We don't create

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<v Speaker 6>succession plans. We don't have any idea who or what

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<v Speaker 6>we're looking for in the next upcoming leader, which means

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<v Speaker 6>that when something has happens to our aging leaders, when

1:01:01.600 --> 1:01:02.920
<v Speaker 6>they fall a brick a hip, when they have a

1:01:02.960 --> 1:01:04.960
<v Speaker 6>heart attack, when it's a tragedy that strikes, whatever it

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<v Speaker 6>may be, we're just sitting out here. Just the John

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<v Speaker 6>Conyer's district is probably one of the better examples, right, Michigan. Detroit,

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<v Speaker 6>Michigan has no black the city of Detroit one of

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<v Speaker 6>the blackest, I think it is the blackest major city

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<v Speaker 6>in the United States of America. Has no black representative

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<v Speaker 6>in the United States Congress, not a one. Right, and

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<v Speaker 6>you begin to see those things. The other thing is,

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<v Speaker 6>and this is when Angela really gets mad at me

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<v Speaker 6>because I think that we need a job fair, but

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<v Speaker 6>these neighbors, like I think we need a job fair

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<v Speaker 6>for black elected officials in particular, because when white boys

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<v Speaker 6>get to a certain age, they cash out, they go

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<v Speaker 6>to think things.

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<v Speaker 2>They go to SaaS.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe he please just I know he's Senator SaaS is

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<v Speaker 6>somebody who actually asked the question. Although I disagree with

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<v Speaker 6>him politically, he asked a question what can I do

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<v Speaker 6>for my country, not what can my country do for me?

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<v Speaker 6>And I don't know if you all saw his post

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<v Speaker 6>recently that he is what can UF pay for next?

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<v Speaker 6>He's in stage four cancer and he doesn't have that

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<v Speaker 6>much longer left to live. So I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 6>uh kind of throw that throw throw that out there

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<v Speaker 6>as a random aside. But you know, you have these

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<v Speaker 6>individuals who go to these college campuses like SaaS at

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<v Speaker 6>UF or whatever it is, and a lot of times

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<v Speaker 6>black folk in elected office don't have a landing spot.

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<v Speaker 2>We talk about that all the time. We don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a landing spot.

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<v Speaker 6>And so when I think I think about the age

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<v Speaker 6>in Congress, it's like one we don't have a succession plan.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not saying get rid of all the old folks,

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<v Speaker 6>everybody above the eighties shouldn't run. Jim Cloudburn lasts at

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<v Speaker 6>me all the time because he says, every time I

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<v Speaker 6>shake his hand, I check his pulse, right, he says.

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<v Speaker 2>Macary, I'm only taking one cholesterol pill. I'm in good shape. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cool.

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<v Speaker 6>Everybody's not created equal, but we need a succession plan

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<v Speaker 6>and we need to make sure that our they have

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<v Speaker 6>a great landing spot that like the white boys do,

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<v Speaker 6>so they can actually go out and create wealth for

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<v Speaker 6>their families and reap the benefits of their service.

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<v Speaker 7>This is this is one thing that I think and

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<v Speaker 7>Andrew want you to weigh in here too. But there's

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<v Speaker 7>one area in particular that I want you to address.

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<v Speaker 7>Bacari has been controversial, particularly on the Hill. There are

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<v Speaker 7>members of Congress, especially our older ones, people who are

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<v Speaker 7>my mentors, like father figures to me, mother figures to me,

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<v Speaker 7>who have taken great issue with the fact that they

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<v Speaker 7>were told that you wanted to run against Congressman Clyburn

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<v Speaker 7>and you were ready to take him out us form

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<v Speaker 7>of an intern So I would like for you to

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<v Speaker 7>address this once and for all.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I've always told people, I've always told people, and

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<v Speaker 6>I tell Congressman that, first of all, I don't address

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<v Speaker 6>I don't address everything, like That's one of the questions

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<v Speaker 6>I asked Don earlier in the show, Like I don't

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<v Speaker 6>address everything because everything don't need to be addressed. And

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<v Speaker 6>if people around Congressman Cliburn want to tell him I'm

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<v Speaker 6>running against him, so what I mean, you kind of

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<v Speaker 6>listen when you can pick up the phone and call me,

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<v Speaker 6>that's that's fine. I've never made any steps to run

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<v Speaker 6>against Congressman Clyburn. If I've been critical of something he's

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<v Speaker 6>done in the media, ask me, I will like anybody else.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I think we have that relationship, we have

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<v Speaker 6>that respect for each other. He and I have a

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<v Speaker 6>great relationship. But I've told him many times I have

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<v Speaker 6>no intentions of running against Jim Cliver. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 6>don't have I don't, I don't. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 6>do that. I don't feel that to be good for

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<v Speaker 6>black folk in any in any way shape form, for

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<v Speaker 6>this district and somebody who served and who brought stuff back,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, it is what it is now.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not going to be able to pass that seat

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<v Speaker 2>down to X y Z. But I don't.

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<v Speaker 6>I have a great deal of respect for Jim Clavern

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<v Speaker 6>and his family, and I've never that was something.

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<v Speaker 2>The funny part about.

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<v Speaker 6>That is that that's so dc that it's like decently

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<v Speaker 6>irrelevant to anybody in the sixth Congressional District, decently irrelevant

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<v Speaker 6>to anybody in South Carolina, because everybody down here knows,

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<v Speaker 6>and no one in here is like, but car go

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<v Speaker 6>run against Jim, And I'm not telling people I am.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I wanted to clear that up because I think

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<v Speaker 7>that's important in the context for this particular topic. Andrew,

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<v Speaker 7>you're a former young elected official, developed young elected officials

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<v Speaker 7>network through people for the American way, and I think

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<v Speaker 7>it's so important that we're building a bench, but we're

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<v Speaker 7>also not throwing away our elders. There is no succession

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<v Speaker 7>plan for a lot of the members of Congress, particularly

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<v Speaker 7>the black members. It's the most money that many of

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<v Speaker 7>them have ever made in their lives to say you

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<v Speaker 7>need to leave here. The question is and do what

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<v Speaker 7>you know. And also, Congressman Waters has more energy than

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<v Speaker 7>some of the thirty and forty year old members of Congress.

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<v Speaker 7>So I do think it's very dumb to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>if you're over this age because the third oldest Congress

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<v Speaker 7>in history, you should have to automatically step down. Who

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<v Speaker 7>has the ability, the wherewithal, the knowledge to fight against

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<v Speaker 7>this type of authority is here in regime.

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<v Speaker 8>Who was closer to.

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<v Speaker 7>Jim Crow and knows what happens and how to combat

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<v Speaker 7>when segregationist policies are front and center.

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<v Speaker 8>We should not be thrown away all of our elders.

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<v Speaker 7>And we certainly now, if you're not doing nothing, I

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<v Speaker 7>don't care what age you are, you should be run against.

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<v Speaker 8>That's completely different.

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<v Speaker 7>But I think this blanket idea that if you're older

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<v Speaker 7>you automatically need to be tossed aside is just bad.

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<v Speaker 6>But let's also say this, and I'm gonna call a

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<v Speaker 6>name out and people whatever, take it how you wish.

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<v Speaker 6>But I love Eleanor Holmes Norton with a passion. She's

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<v Speaker 6>done so much for DC. She does not need to

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<v Speaker 6>run for reelection.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean agreed.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, there are there are certain people who we

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<v Speaker 6>know who we see with our eyes like I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>it's it's it's I guess it's people now look at

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<v Speaker 6>it as like a Joe Biden test, right, that just

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<v Speaker 6>don't need to be running for office again, and we

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<v Speaker 6>need to be confident like Chuck Grassley doesn't need to

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<v Speaker 6>be running for office again from the great state of Iowa.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, this is not a this is not a

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<v Speaker 6>democratic problem. This is a problem I believe across the electorate.

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<v Speaker 6>And I I think people give me more grief because

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not afraid to like, we deal with these the

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<v Speaker 6>three of us. We deal with these people consistently all

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<v Speaker 6>the time. They're friends, many of them are friends. If

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<v Speaker 6>they're not friends with us, they've been friends with our parents, right,

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<v Speaker 6>So we have to be willing to hold them accountable.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I don't. I don't find that to be

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<v Speaker 2>out of the out of the ballpark.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree on on on the on many of the points. One,

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<v Speaker 1>there's really ever a retirement land. There's really ever a

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<v Speaker 1>place to go when you when you leave a place

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<v Speaker 1>like that. And let's just be honest, once you've been

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<v Speaker 1>in a position to have that will, that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>influence over the lives of people, it's very hard to

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<v Speaker 1>find a place where you feel like your best and

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<v Speaker 1>highest talents are being called upon and are utilized. And

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<v Speaker 1>people don't want to be put out in the pasture

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<v Speaker 1>when they're not ready for pasture. And so I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>big fan of leaving you know, people's term limits, what

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<v Speaker 1>your opinion and aging out, you know, force retirement. D Look,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are on a ballot that already exists, the

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<v Speaker 1>voters are the arbiters of whether or not you get

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<v Speaker 1>a term or you get your limit, and they you

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<v Speaker 1>have to trust them to decide that for themselves. And

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<v Speaker 1>they've been able to do that even against long term

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<v Speaker 1>institutional names. Voters have gone out and shot you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the system by turning you know, those kinds of people

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<v Speaker 1>out or re electing them and saying go back and

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<v Speaker 1>keep up the fight. I will say this as well,

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<v Speaker 1>because you laid out some of my early credentials with

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<v Speaker 1>development of young leaders and and and the young Lative

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<v Speaker 1>Officials network is one of the things that it showed

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<v Speaker 1>me as well. And I wasn't planning for this, but

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<v Speaker 1>it showed me also who absolutely should.

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<v Speaker 2>Not ever be in office again.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I had a chance to put you out,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd do it right now right. It's similar to this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing about all old people aren't created equal, all

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<v Speaker 1>young people are not created equal, with equal talents, equal

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<v Speaker 1>moral compass equal uh vision uh equal uh, philosophical development

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<v Speaker 1>around what you believe that you know. The presidential Remember

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<v Speaker 1>we talked a little while back about Gavin Newsom, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any I don't know him well. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he helped with the fundraiser when I was running

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<v Speaker 1>for governor and we met uh a few times. But

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<v Speaker 1>my biggest issue is I feel like he's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>sort of rediscovering a new version of himself politically that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel very connected to philosophical beliefs, but rather sort

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<v Speaker 1>of you know this whole brow thing, right, Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't get I don't know what it leads to. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why. I know that young white men are

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<v Speaker 1>being attracted to the Republican Party and lure to them,

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<v Speaker 1>and are lured by things like people who go to

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<v Speaker 1>the gym and who have muscles, and who have pretty

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<v Speaker 1>wives and girlfriends, and you know that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But is that what we're emulating? Like what is the derivative?

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<v Speaker 1>What does that lead to? Because when you're president of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States and you are quite virtually the most

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<v Speaker 1>powerful person in the world, I really don't want you

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<v Speaker 1>there figuring out whether or not your philosophical belief system

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<v Speaker 1>exist or whether you have to invent it based off

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<v Speaker 1>of either who's around you, the last person in the room,

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<v Speaker 1>or how good person looks. And I'm not assigning those

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<v Speaker 1>motives to him. I'm simply saying I don't really care

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<v Speaker 1>as much about the age as much as I care

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<v Speaker 1>about people being at home in themselves. Like I can

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<v Speaker 1>say no very clearly. I'm so much more clear, and

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<v Speaker 1>life has taught me some things that I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>when I first got in. I wasn't bad as an elected.

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<v Speaker 2>When I first got in.

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<v Speaker 1>I was extremely I felt energetic and curious and innovative,

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<v Speaker 1>but also very pollyannish and am not always clear about

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<v Speaker 1>why somebody was in front of me, what they were

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<v Speaker 1>asking for, who was on the come up on the

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<v Speaker 1>other end. So I just think that there are things

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<v Speaker 1>that season you over time that ultimately will yield a

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<v Speaker 1>better product for the people who put you there on

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<v Speaker 1>their behalfs. So develop yourself first, develop your lifelosophical thinking

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<v Speaker 1>and belief system, Develop your own moral compass, Develop where

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<v Speaker 1>the red line to is that I will not go beyond,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we can talk about you running.

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<v Speaker 8>And then don't be afraid to evolve while you're in

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<v Speaker 8>you should you know.

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<v Speaker 6>You shouldn't it from somewhere You're right, I mean Andrews,

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<v Speaker 6>and Andrew, that last portion of that uh soliloquy was

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<v Speaker 6>just superb like it was. It was brilliant because I

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<v Speaker 6>echo that sentiment all the time about because people come

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<v Speaker 6>up to you that, like young people especially, I want

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<v Speaker 6>to run for office.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to run for office.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like dog, spend some time with yourself, like figure out.

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<v Speaker 6>The other thing is we go into office broke, which

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<v Speaker 6>leads to a lot of other persons about that. I

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<v Speaker 6>mean that, you know, we we go into office thinking it.

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<v Speaker 1>Could lead to a lot of our problems if the

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<v Speaker 1>money is the value and you haven't thought about how

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<v Speaker 1>you cover your Maslow's hierarchy of.

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<v Speaker 7>Needs, and if you think that you might because my

1:11:56.200 --> 1:11:58.720
<v Speaker 7>joys can do things that y'all came in office, Let's be.

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<v Speaker 8>Clear about that.

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<v Speaker 6>And I do think that I do think that Andrew,

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<v Speaker 6>you and I and Angela to Angela as well are

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<v Speaker 6>somewhat to blame because a lot of people see running

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<v Speaker 6>for office as this kind of springboard to platforming themselves

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<v Speaker 6>on TV or other things.

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<v Speaker 2>Celebrity and you know the celebrity, the celebrity and politics thing.

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<v Speaker 6>When I ran for office in two thousand and six,

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<v Speaker 6>much like when you ran for office first, that wasn't

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<v Speaker 6>a part of its celebrity and politics. Yeah, the celebrity

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<v Speaker 6>and politics didn't really come along until you have Barack Obama,

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<v Speaker 6>when people beganify and you had that intersection of politics, culture, sport,

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<v Speaker 6>and entertainment. Right, that's when people were like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 6>you can go out and I mean you got political

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<v Speaker 6>groupies now right. I mean it's just a fascinating type

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<v Speaker 6>of of of a profession and it should.

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<v Speaker 1>Be oh, of course, because you are the angel right

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<v Speaker 1>the but but Caari building off that, I just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to commercial after that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, I was just you're the thing that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I should to drop the mic.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry she felt anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>But but is that there are those who we know

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<v Speaker 1>are in the field who make it look easy, that

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<v Speaker 1>that the way you experienced them, it seems so effortless.

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<v Speaker 1>You actually convince yourself that there is no effort, that

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<v Speaker 1>that that there's nothing that came before that amazing experience

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<v Speaker 1>that you had with them. That you also feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you can replicate like, oh, I think I can do that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what there is more what what was that?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>This uld to be this commercial? Uh? And Alicia Key said,

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<v Speaker 1>my overnight success has been decades in the making. So

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<v Speaker 1>we see the highlight reel and think, oh, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>know if I get getting that, and then I'm no,

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<v Speaker 1>this has been building, this has been happening, this has

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<v Speaker 1>been coming the whole hour. We're the same age, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want to want and be what did what have

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<v Speaker 1>you done? What has made you ready for the moment?

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<v Speaker 1>And that doesn't mean you had to have been elected before,

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<v Speaker 1>but you bet I'd be able to tell me something

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<v Speaker 1>about something that gives you the siffing spine that this

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<v Speaker 1>is the work that you should be doing for others.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise you should definitely go in intern for the person

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<v Speaker 1>who is holding the seat that you think belonged to

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<v Speaker 1>you or some other thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think there is an impression sometimes that there

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<v Speaker 1>are those who make the thing look sort of effortless,

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<v Speaker 1>that people think you can get it and then be

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<v Speaker 1>effortless as well, And that just means unprepared, not ready

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<v Speaker 1>for the moment. You're call flat footed at the first crisis,

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<v Speaker 1>so on and so forth. So no, the Overnight story

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<v Speaker 1>has been decades in the making.

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<v Speaker 7>I want to just point out that you always make

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<v Speaker 7>everything look so effortless. And for another one who makes

1:14:49.479 --> 1:14:53.120
<v Speaker 7>things look effortless, Don who joined us today, he had

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<v Speaker 7>to step out because he got legal stuff to deal

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<v Speaker 7>with thanks to your crazy administration.

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<v Speaker 8>But we're going to effortlessly. Now go to our CTAs

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<v Speaker 8>where Don will rejoin us.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody knows.

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<v Speaker 3>My call to action is to like and subscribe to

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<v Speaker 3>the Donal Livan Show on YouTube, uh, on Twitch, on

1:15:22.120 --> 1:15:25.840
<v Speaker 3>a substack on Instagram and all of the platforms, because

1:15:26.200 --> 1:15:28.240
<v Speaker 3>this is the time, all the things, and it's very

1:15:28.280 --> 1:15:30.599
<v Speaker 3>important that you support us because I'd believe that independent

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<v Speaker 3>journalists are doing doing the work out here, boots on

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<v Speaker 3>the ground, and I'm very happy to be in this

1:15:35.600 --> 1:15:38.800
<v Speaker 3>space and sharing it with people like Joy Read, like

1:15:38.920 --> 1:15:42.960
<v Speaker 3>Jim Acosta, like Georgia fort in Minnesota, and others who

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<v Speaker 3>are out here like Roland Martin, Angela, Andrew.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about you, Bacar. You kind of a hybrid,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm halfway proud of you. I'm kidding you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very proud of you to.

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<v Speaker 4>Take it.

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<v Speaker 2>I will take it.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, like and subscribe to the Donovan Show on YouTube, stack, twitch,

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<v Speaker 3>everywhere you get your streaming.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. I love it.

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<v Speaker 8>We're you're killing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh to vote for me, vote for me for the

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<v Speaker 3>four NAACP Image Awards that I was nominated for.

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<v Speaker 8>So he's in our category. If he's in our category,

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<v Speaker 8>vote for U.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was about to say, give them your second.

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<v Speaker 3>I love you guys, and you I'm sure you love me,

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<v Speaker 3>but you want people to vote for you, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>I want people to vote for me.

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<v Speaker 7>So but if you win in the tape, it'll be

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<v Speaker 7>for our page. But yes, keep going. You can vote

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<v Speaker 7>for him another three categories.

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<v Speaker 6>Before I hop into my CTA's, I wanted to make

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<v Speaker 6>sure I made two very very quick announcements. The first

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<v Speaker 6>is that my sub stack is launching. It has launched.

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<v Speaker 2>Check it out.

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<v Speaker 6>Shout out to my team, Brian Fitz, shout out to

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<v Speaker 6>Jerry Loho. It has written material for me. You can

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<v Speaker 6>find everything from seeing in appearances, speaking in current speaking engagements,

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<v Speaker 6>Native lampod, all of those things. Oh and my second

1:16:51.160 --> 1:16:53.519
<v Speaker 6>announcement ties right into the Native lamp pod. Because every

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<v Speaker 6>other Monday beginning on January twenty sixth, we're gonna kick

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<v Speaker 6>off my solo pod, which is just going to be

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit of time I spend with you, kind

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<v Speaker 6>of live ish, I guess. I don't know talk to

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<v Speaker 6>the producers about that, but we'll be talking about sports, entertainment, politics, culture,

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<v Speaker 6>all the things that you want us to cover. And

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's important to note right before I get

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<v Speaker 6>into my call to action. My my call to action

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<v Speaker 6>is very simple. I always tell people, particularly young people,

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<v Speaker 6>that the most important currency in this country, in the

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<v Speaker 6>world that you have the then you should cultivate more

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<v Speaker 6>than money, is relationships. And my relationship with Don Lemon

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<v Speaker 6>has been something that has been amazing from a very

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<v Speaker 6>long period of time, from when Caputo called me boy

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<v Speaker 6>uh during the commercial break of the Don Lemon Show,

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<v Speaker 6>uh too, when he he was just like.

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<v Speaker 2>Breathe that was Matt slap. I didn't mean computo match slap.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, And do you know who is on show? Mark?

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<v Speaker 6>I was thinking about the other I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 6>the other computo in my head, not Mark, but the

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<v Speaker 6>other one.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was Matt slap. But yeah, I know he was.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he was never on the show again. But

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<v Speaker 2>you you meant so much to us.

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<v Speaker 6>And I don't think I think that, you know, for

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<v Speaker 6>a long period of time, for a long period of time,

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<v Speaker 6>you got uh somewhat deserving le an interesting reception from

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<v Speaker 6>black folks. But over the past, over the past decade,

1:18:15.040 --> 1:18:20.439
<v Speaker 6>it was the thing in Missouri for me. But over

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<v Speaker 6>the past decade, I don't think I wasn't lying. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't let me finished. I don't think that people realize

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<v Speaker 6>how much you have helped bring black voices onto TV.

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<v Speaker 6>Giving myself an opportunity, Angela Rian opportunity, Andrew gilliam an opportunity,

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<v Speaker 6>Simone Sander's an opportunity. Because the way it works is

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<v Speaker 6>the white folk at these networks they go to black

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<v Speaker 6>folk that they know and say, are they gonna be good?

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<v Speaker 6>Is it okay? And you put us on your show.

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<v Speaker 6>You let us have that freedom, You let us be

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<v Speaker 6>able to get our thoughts out. And so my call

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<v Speaker 6>to action is to say, build relationships, value relationships, and

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<v Speaker 6>also give people their flowers while they're living.

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<v Speaker 2>And so thank you. Don I know you're getting up

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<v Speaker 2>there in age, so I just wanted to say thank you.

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<v Speaker 8>It's some distressing well, Andrew, my call to action.

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<v Speaker 7>As you all can probably imagine, my Seahawks are still

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<v Speaker 7>in the NFL playoffs and so I just want to

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<v Speaker 7>drop this song, real quick call to action to support

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<v Speaker 7>the Hawks.

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<v Speaker 1>My born three one two three, and I'm not gonna have.

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<v Speaker 8>A licensing issues. My friend dras song.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, I about to say.

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<v Speaker 8>To the dark side, boy my mentality.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we say mos we mean miss welcome to the

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<v Speaker 2>dark side. When you see that blue and green.

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<v Speaker 14>No, it's my tie, depending every blade of grass when

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<v Speaker 14>we couldn't lie and seattle when it's ringing.

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<v Speaker 3>And we outside, yeah, we outside of everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Outside, whole shitty going up like a sun. Times you're hungry,

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<v Speaker 2>we can provide.

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<v Speaker 4>Some beef up front and pancakes from my own line.

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<v Speaker 2>And Murphy is that?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean?

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<v Speaker 6>I got a big cat, but they allergic to the

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<v Speaker 6>beat on the West Coast sometimes.

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<v Speaker 4>You do something.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's enough, all right, Andrew?

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<v Speaker 8>What's your call as you're such a hater just because

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<v Speaker 8>you don't have no.

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<v Speaker 2>You we had the Carolina Panthers, right, we are all

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<v Speaker 2>lemon heads. I love it, you like it, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Mine is quick and easy. I just this weekend, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>spend the time with my kids, and one of them

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<v Speaker 1>asked me, Daddy, are we such and such and such,

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, well, I know I am, but you

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<v Speaker 1>will one day get to decide for yourself what you

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<v Speaker 1>are and what you believe, what you believe in, and

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<v Speaker 1>whether you support a thing or you don't. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just encourage you to, you know, really stay honest

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<v Speaker 1>with how you feel, and don't let your friends around you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, try to tell you to believe or to

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<v Speaker 1>do a thing just because they're doing it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>guess what that reminded me of is just the the

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<v Speaker 1>significant importance of helping our children to very honestly think

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<v Speaker 1>for themselves. There are things, obviously at certain ages you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be directive about. And then I think there

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<v Speaker 1>are things and moments that just happen through the course

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<v Speaker 1>of your exchange with your kids at dinner or in

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<v Speaker 1>the day, over the weekends, at night, whatever that might

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<v Speaker 1>cause us to possibly, instead of taking the parent assertive,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the this, and this is that to coach

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<v Speaker 1>them through ways to sort of think and develop for

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<v Speaker 1>themselves some critical thinking skills that you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>might be the best gift that we can give to

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<v Speaker 1>our children is in this world where everybody seems like

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<v Speaker 1>sheep following one, you know, the leader, because it's the leader.

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<v Speaker 1>We need some people who are willing to say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what I think, that's not what I believe, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and to feel comfortable in doing that without going along

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<v Speaker 1>to get along.

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<v Speaker 8>That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it, y'all. So you've got our directives, our admonishments,

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<v Speaker 1>our assignments. If you will, we want to put an

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<v Speaker 1>assignment out for you, which is keep those videos, questions,

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<v Speaker 1>comments thoughts coming our direction, because if I'm not mistaken, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be talking on our mini pod about questions

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<v Speaker 1>that we've gotten over the last couple of weeks that

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't gotten to and we want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>we get to those. So stay tuned for that. Don

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<v Speaker 1>As always, it's always been a pleasure because we've always

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<v Speaker 1>been on your platforms coming and you know you asking

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<v Speaker 1>all the questions, and I thought you were doing that

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit here, like, well, let me get to

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<v Speaker 1>the substance of that in the what what makes you

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<v Speaker 1>feel this way? I felt that because you're a journalist

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<v Speaker 1>and truth that at heart and you do a damn

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<v Speaker 1>good job at it. We're so fortunate to have you

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<v Speaker 1>with us on nail lampid. I hope you enjoyed it,

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<v Speaker 1>because we enjoyed you.

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<v Speaker 3>I love being here. You guys know that you are

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<v Speaker 3>my brothers and sisters. Angela you you know how I

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<v Speaker 3>feel about you. Bacari, Come on, I love your wife

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<v Speaker 3>more than Ellen is mine. That most people most people do,

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<v Speaker 3>but I do have to say that I really do

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<v Speaker 3>miss you, Andrew, and I still have one. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if you ever if you remember this, just to

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<v Speaker 3>show how kind you are. We were sitting on the

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<v Speaker 3>set in Washington, DC covering something, some craziness that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably a Trump thing, I don't know. And you

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<v Speaker 2>had on this beautiful bracelet and I said, man, I

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<v Speaker 2>really liked that bracelet. What is it? And you said

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<v Speaker 2>that it was bullets? Do you remember that?

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<v Speaker 3>And you gave me that bracelet and I do still

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<v Speaker 3>have it to hollowed out bullets, and I still have

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<v Speaker 3>that and I will never That just showed me just

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<v Speaker 3>what a generous heart that you have.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he had two of them. I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>like it, and you're like, you can have it and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, thank you. He got him for free.

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<v Speaker 2>He had two of them, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Bullocks for life. Check it out in Miami. Uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll learn all about it. Don I do remember that,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember it well. We asked some other conversations too.

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<v Speaker 1>We won't just mention those here though. No.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I am so grateful that you came on, Don,

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<v Speaker 7>and we are, you know, rooting for you absolutely and

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<v Speaker 7>Bakari and I'm signing him up even though he can

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<v Speaker 7>be a little greedy. We are here as pro bono

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<v Speaker 7>council for you if you need support on this non.

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<v Speaker 6>Already I already called him. I don't know what pro

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<v Speaker 6>bono means, but I already called him.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, you know, I got you, and I said

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<v Speaker 2>pro bono and he goes, what language is that? I'm glad?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh lord, I thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Continued success. Okay, welcome home, welcome home, come home, Thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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