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Speaker 1: Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership with

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Speaker 1: Reason Choice Media. Welcome home, everybody. This is episode counted

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Speaker 1: one fifteen of Native Lampod, where we give you our

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Speaker 1: take on all things political and sometimes a little cultural,

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Speaker 1: where we tread into trouble. I'm your host for today,

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Speaker 1: Andrew Gilliman. Of course, I'm joined by none other than,

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Speaker 1: of course, the awesome Angela Rai, the self congratulatory Bacari

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Speaker 1: sellers and joining us this week as a co host,

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Speaker 1: a living legend. I don't know how he feels about

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Speaker 1: that title. Host, entrepreneur, creator, journalist dumb An, the one

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Speaker 1: and only. Can I call you Carlton? Welcome to the audience, y'all,

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Speaker 1: welcome along with me, mister Don Lemon himself?

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Speaker 2: What's up? Don much? Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited to be on with you guys and see

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Speaker 3: how how much trouble I get into.

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Speaker 2: You know, well, you don't.

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Speaker 1: Need no Don is your middle name, Carlton?

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Speaker 3: No wondering why you were talking about that is not

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Speaker 3: don't believe everything you read on the internet.

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Speaker 2: What do I want people know? My middle name is Rinaldo.

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Speaker 1: Now just from my face back home, So y'all, we're

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Speaker 1: going to be getting into Don's story a little bit more,

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Speaker 1: a couple of other reasons why he may be in

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Speaker 1: the headlines. I don't know, possibly Nicki Minaj, maybe Ku

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Speaker 1: Klux Klan act, I don't know. But we'll follow up

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Speaker 1: with some questions that we know that you would ask

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Speaker 1: if you were with Donna Day. Also today, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a little bit of a take on whether we

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Speaker 1: think Congress is getting a little too old, or if

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Speaker 1: it's just been old. Then whether or not, I don't know, is.

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Speaker 4: It appropriate to protest in church.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into that, but before we do, we want to,

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Speaker 1: of course, I think, go through what has become a

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Speaker 1: favorite with some of our supporters. Thanks to Angela for

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Speaker 1: introducing this. It's called for your Situational Awareness FYSA. Because

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Speaker 1: we've got a lot of I think news to get

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Speaker 1: to and we want to do it quickly, So let's start.

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Speaker 1: I want to just focus everybody back on what's probably

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Speaker 1: at the top of the headlines and a lot of

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Speaker 1: the cable news, and that's Davos. President Donald Trump was

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Speaker 1: in Switzerland to talk to global economic leaders about everything

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Speaker 1: economic in some political of course, and y'all, if you

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Speaker 1: were looking for the worst reels for Trump as a

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Speaker 1: representative of America, you need not go any further than

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Speaker 1: right here. Let's roll the clip.

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Speaker 5: We never asked for anything, and we never got anything.

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Speaker 5: We probably won't get anything unless I decide to use

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Speaker 5: excessive strength and force where we would be frankly unstoppable.

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Speaker 4: But I won't do that.

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Speaker 5: Okay, now everyone's saying, oh good, that's probably the biggest

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Speaker 5: statement I made because people thought I would use force.

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Speaker 5: I don't have to use force. I don't want to

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Speaker 5: use force. I won't use force. All the United States

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Speaker 5: is asking for is a place called Greenland, where we

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Speaker 5: already had it as a trustee, but respectfully returned it

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Speaker 5: back to Denmark not long ago after we defeated the Germans,

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Speaker 5: the Japanese, the Italians and others in World War Two.

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Speaker 5: We gave it back to them. We want it big

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Speaker 5: Without us. Right now, you'd all be speaking German and

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Speaker 5: little Japanese. Perhaps all we want from Denmark for national

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Speaker 5: and international security and to keep our very energetic and

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Speaker 5: day injurious potential enemies at bay, is this land on

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Speaker 5: which we're going to build the greatest Golden dome ever built.

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Speaker 5: We're building a golden dome that's going to just by

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Speaker 5: its very nature, going to be defending Canada. Canada gets

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Speaker 5: a lot of freevious from us. By the way, they

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Speaker 5: should be grateful also, but they're not. I watched your

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Speaker 5: Prime minister yesterday. He wasn't so grateful that they should

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Speaker 5: be grateful to us. Canada lives because of the United States.

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Speaker 5: Remember that mark the next time you make your statements.

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Speaker 1: I hope you'll call that last piece where he says

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Speaker 1: to Canada, remember you only exist because of us. Remember

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Speaker 1: that mark referring to the Prime Minister of Canada.

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Speaker 2: If it wasn't for to be speaking German.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that way, I'll give it to the foot,

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Speaker 1: to the group down what you got.

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Speaker 3: It's painful to watch him, I mean, how insulting for

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Speaker 3: be speaking German and he's he's just ranting there. I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: when is someone going to write a book on his

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Speaker 3: not only did he embarrass himself, but he embarrassed the

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Speaker 3: United States. When I was watching that, it made me

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Speaker 3: embarrassed to be a United States citizen. Or I shouldn't

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Speaker 3: say it, shouldn't say to be a United States citizen.

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Speaker 3: I should say for him to be our president. And

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Speaker 3: so there are two things. Go ahead, No, they're two

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Speaker 3: things to jump off the screen. Just for some context.

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Speaker 6: You do know that the the primary language spoken in

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Speaker 2: First and second is the height of irony.

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Speaker 6: The last time we actually purchased an island or piece

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Speaker 6: of property from Denmark, does they might know what it was?

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Speaker 2: Anybody? No? No, anybody?

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Speaker 1: Oh it was an island.

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Speaker 2: It's Epstein Island.

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Speaker 2: Seven in nineteen seventeen.

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Speaker 6: The last the last piece of property we actually purchased

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, but Cary he also keeps coming up saying

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Speaker 3: that we owned it or whatever. We never actually owned it.

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Speaker 3: The United States offered to buy Greenland for like one

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Speaker 2: But the Denmark said no.

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Speaker 3: It was difficult to the Danish Kingdom and important to

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Speaker 3: the history and national identity. We never really owned Greenland

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Speaker 1: But the part of getting Epstein's Island the rapist Island

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Speaker 1: was in nineteen seventeen was the United States trading that

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Speaker 1: the Danish territory at the time of Greenland. The worst part, y'all,

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Speaker 1: I just I'm with you, don around the offensiveness of

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Speaker 1: a great ocean between us. We didn't have to get involved,

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Speaker 1: you know, we sort of did it for y'all, and

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Speaker 1: we never get anything in return, and really diminishes the

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Speaker 1: huge human toll and sacrifice that that took, not only

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Speaker 1: on Europeans but also Americans, over four hundred thousand service members,

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Speaker 1: men and women who gave their lives faithfully to protect

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Speaker 1: the world the globe against these kind of totalitarian leaders

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Speaker 1: with very very outdated ideas around who deserves to live,

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Speaker 1: who doesn't, who's human, and who isn't. I just thought, overall,

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Speaker 1: it was a horrible, horrible offense. Angela. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you've got anything on this, because I want to

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Speaker 7: Age geography, because I know we've got to get through

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Speaker 7: these clips quick stage geography. His bud was supposed to

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Speaker 7: was at a rant at the podium. So that's the

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Speaker 7: only stage geography I have. Y'all hit the rest of it.

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Speaker 7: We can go to the name.

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Speaker 3: No, you're right, because the interviewer was sitting to the

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Speaker 3: at the podium. But I mean, you're giving fun facts

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Speaker 3: right about the last time we acquired land, Bacari do

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Speaker 3: do you guys know why he really wants Greenland? It's

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Speaker 3: not about security. You guys know why he wants to

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Speaker 3: be why he wants.

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Speaker 2: It right, tell me he wants to go to go Dome. No,

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Speaker 2: he wants his face on Mount Rushmore.

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Speaker 3: And the folks who are on Mount Rushmore secured their

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Speaker 3: legacy and their place, their status to be on Mount

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Speaker 3: Rushmore is because they acquired more land and resources, strategic

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Speaker 3: he wants his big orange face on Mount Rushmore.

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Speaker 2: That is it.

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Speaker 3: That's what they're not telling you. They're giving all these

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Speaker 3: shiny objects we needed for security. We don't need it

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Speaker 3: for security. We already have military assets there, and they

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Speaker 3: said we can put as many there as we want

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Speaker 3: want to. He wants to acquire more land and resources

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Speaker 3: so he can be on Mountain rush More.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 6: One of the things you brought up was his mental acuity,

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Speaker 6: and that's something that I've always been talking about, particularly

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Speaker 6: with the light that was shown on Joe Biden and Andrew.

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Speaker 6: One of the things that we recognized was that he

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Speaker 6: was the oldest person to in the history of the

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Speaker 6: United States of America ever run for president. And you know,

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Speaker 6: there have been rumors about his health, but I think

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Speaker 6: his cognitive decline it is quite evident. I want to

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Speaker 6: play this clip that I dropped into the group chat

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Speaker 2: And I hope people evaluate this.

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Speaker 5: But when I learned her her parents and her father

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Speaker 5: in particular, is like I hope he still is, but

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Speaker 5: I don't know. Was a tremendous Trump fan. He was

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Speaker 5: all for Trump, loved Trump, and uh, you know, it's terrible.

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Speaker 5: I was told that by a lot of people. They said, Oh,

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Speaker 5: he loves you. He he was, I hoped. I hope

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Speaker 5: he still feels that way. Sorry, hard situation, But her

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Speaker 5: father was a tremendous and parents were tremendous Trump fans.

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Speaker 4: That's so said.

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Speaker 5: Just happens.

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Speaker 8: It's terrible, not supporters fans, by the way.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, so what we just watched.

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Speaker 6: What we just watched was his interview about Renee Good

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Speaker 2: He was, you know, unkilled.

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Speaker 6: The reason that I struggle with Donald Trump is because

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Speaker 6: he has a heavy dose of narcissism mixed in with

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Speaker 6: his psychopathy. And what I posted the other day, don

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Speaker 6: and to the group, I mean, I wish that there

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Speaker 6: was a New York Times, Wall Street Journal, whatever mainstream

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Speaker 6: media source expos a maybe maybe we do it, or

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Speaker 6: the Donal Limit Show, or somebody gets four or five

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Speaker 6: psychiatrists and somebody tell me what the fuck is wrong

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Speaker 2: I want some clinicians.

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Speaker 6: I want some clinicians to sit back and be able

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Speaker 6: to because I don't feel right guessing about people's mental

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Speaker 6: health and acuity. But somebody tell me what's wrong with

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Speaker 6: him other than just being Oh.

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Speaker 1: Well, old people who don't act like that.

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Speaker 8: Correct.

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Speaker 3: Correct, So we've all had old people in our family

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Speaker 3: where we see the moment that you take the car

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Speaker 3: keys right, let me they need a nurse.

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Speaker 7: Speaking of taking the car keys, we just talked about

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Speaker 7: his ice don there's a clip that you wanted to

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Speaker 3: Yes, I want to get to this clip, and that

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Speaker 3: is in Minneapolis Saint Paul. The lies are breaking through

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Speaker 3: these ICE agents and federal agents that are out in

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Speaker 3: the streets play this.

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Speaker 9: Recently, as the last two weeks, we as law enforcement

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Speaker 9: community have been receiving endless complaints about civil rights violations

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Speaker 9: in our streets from US citizens. What we're hearing is

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Speaker 9: they're being stopped in traffic stops or on the street

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Speaker 1: Don be more right. And in fact, let's take a

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Speaker 5: The situation in Minnesota reminds us that the West cannot

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Speaker 6: Sure, No, I mean at two points that just drive

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Speaker 3: I think there are people who do teach their kids that,

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Speaker 2: I think that's some of us.

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Speaker 3: There are some of us who have to teach our

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Speaker 1: Google me, google me.

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Speaker 8: He's it.

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Speaker 10: I tape, you know, su As, I know him with

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Speaker 10: stuff on it, and they always find you. But I

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Speaker 10: was told that if I wore that end of the game,

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Speaker 10: I would be pulled out the game. So I think

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Speaker 10: that was probably the part that I was confused about

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Speaker 10: because I understand that.

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Speaker 4: It was a fine. Sure, but you know, I ain't

447
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Speaker 4: never seen stepf get pulled.

448
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Speaker 2: Out the game.

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Speaker 10: I tape with writing on it in the truth. So

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Speaker 10: I mean, at the end of the day, it's bigger than me.

451
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Speaker 10: One of the things that are going on makes people uncomfortable.

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Speaker 10: Imagine how those people feel, and I think that's the

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Speaker 10: biggest thing. I have no affiliation me, no connection to

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Speaker 10: these people, other than the fact that I'm a human being. Right,

455
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Speaker 10: if you have a heart, dear human being, you can

456
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Speaker 10: see what's going on in the world, and you check

457
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Speaker 10: yourself real quick, braking.

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Speaker 4: When I'm walking off this field.

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Speaker 10: That's the type of stuff that goes through my head

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Speaker 10: that I have to check myself when I'm seeing it.

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Speaker 4: Crying about football. What it's people who are dying every

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Speaker 4: single day.

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Speaker 7: Perspective and awareness, Yes, that's it, you know. According to

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Speaker 7: Gaza's health Ministry, more than seventy thousand Palestinians have been

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Speaker 7: killed since October twenty twenty three. So I thought it

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Speaker 7: was important that this young man is trying to raise

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Speaker 7: awareness for what is happening still in Gaza to the

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Speaker 7: Palestinian people.

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Speaker 1: And unfortunately, truth telling still comes with great consequence. Apparently,

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Speaker 1: even a truth that's been told by nearly every international

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Speaker 1: health organization in the world who agrees that genocide is underway. Angela.

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Speaker 7: What you have, well, I still have the floor. I

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Speaker 7: guess this is what I want to talk about. Don

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Speaker 7: Lemon had to read for Nicki Minaj, and so I

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Speaker 7: want to talk about that. Nicki Minaj of course calling

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Speaker 7: Don Lemon out his name, coming at him, WHI slurs

477
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Speaker 7: after all that's going on, trying to report the facts

478
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Speaker 7: from the ground in Minnesota. She didn't like him being

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Speaker 7: in the church. Imagine Nicki Minaj being a bigger Christian

480
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Speaker 7: than TD Jakes. I can't call it, but here's Don's response.

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Speaker 7: This is what happened on Marlo Ja King Day, y'all.

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Speaker 3: So people have been asking me about responding to Nicki

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Speaker 3: Minaj's unhinged, homophobic tweet about me. I usually don't respond

484
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Speaker 3: to this stuff, but let me just say this, Nicki Minaj,

485
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Speaker 3: stop talking about shit for which you know nothing about.

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Speaker 2: This is out of your out.

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Speaker 3: Of your depth, by the way, and you are a

488
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Speaker 3: homophobic bigot, You don't care about African Americans, and you're

489
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Speaker 3: not an African American.

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Speaker 2: From what I know. You are reportedly.

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Speaker 3: An undocumented citizen, so you should be deported under Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump's rules.

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Speaker 8: So Don Lemon, we have you here? I want to

494
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Speaker 8: know what inspired.

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Speaker 2: This sweet first? Can we put the tweet first? Because

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Speaker 2: Nicki Nicki Nicki.

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Speaker 8: Be on that to give her. I don't want to

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Speaker 8: put that tweet up.

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Speaker 2: I just want to mad so he could he could

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Speaker 2: read again. I just wanted to.

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Speaker 3: Paraphrase he she said that she called me don c

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Speaker 3: sucking lemon. Uh is disgusting. How dare you? I want

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Speaker 3: that thug in jail. He would never do that to

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Speaker 3: any other religion. Lock him up? Okay, a couple of things.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's start. Let's start at the bottom of the page,

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Speaker 3: shall we uh? Can we go back to that she said?

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Speaker 2: Lock him up now?

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Speaker 3: According to the reports, allegedly reportedly Nicki Minaj is came

509
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Speaker 3: she came to this country illegally and she might be undocumented.

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Speaker 3: So under her cult leader's rules, Nicki Minaj should be deported.

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Speaker 3: I should come over to her house and do what

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Speaker 3: they do to other people. Throw her on the ground,

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Speaker 3: handcuff her, throw it in the back of a car,

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Speaker 3: and deport her. Okay number two, I'm just saying, if she.

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Speaker 6: Has let the man burried, let them wrong.

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Speaker 3: I want to deportation for black people, for black people

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Speaker 3: who disrespect African Americans when she is a visitor in

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Speaker 3: our country. Yes, and if she supports the man who

519
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: supports deporting people without due process, then yeah, deport her.

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Speaker 3: As he said, that's the law and the rules that

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Speaker 3: she believes in. I said what I said, and I'm

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Speaker 3: not changing it. He would never do that to any

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Speaker 3: other religion. I don't have my book here. I just

524
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 3: wrote a book on religion that came out and was

525
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Speaker 3: a bestseller. I know more about I've forgotten more about

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Speaker 3: religion than Nicki Minaj knows who who calls Psalm twenty

527
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Speaker 3: three Sam's when? And when they ask who is what

528
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Speaker 3: is her favorite Bible versus, she says Sam's twenty three.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, she don't know. That's two two Corinthians. Like

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump said his favorite thing is I want that

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Speaker 3: thug in jail. She must be talking about her husband

532
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Speaker 3: and her brother and reportedly allegedly maybe her father. I

533
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 3: don't know that's what I hear now. I don't know

534
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Speaker 3: about that one.

535
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Speaker 1: But her husband.

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Speaker 3: Her husband is a sex offender who was charged with

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Speaker 3: not registering as a sex offender in twenty twenty one

538
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Speaker 3: and had to serve time and pay a fine. I

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00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 3: believe her brother reportedly allegedly is a pedophile, and so

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Speaker 3: people believe that she's doing that because she wants leniency

541
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Speaker 3: or something, and that's why she's cosied up to the

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Speaker 3: maga folks. And she is sitting on stage with Erica Kirk.

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Speaker 3: How dare you well, how dare you Nicki Minaj? When

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Speaker 3: you this is Nicki Minaj is outside of her capacity

545
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 3: when commenting on anything other than trash or gossip or garbage.

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Speaker 3: And then don Sea sucking lemon is disgusting. If she

547
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: wants to know about disgusting, she should go and just

548
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Speaker 3: turn to the man she sleeps in bed with every

549
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Speaker 3: night and uh.

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Speaker 2: Ask his being it was actually convicted.

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Speaker 3: And if it is disgusting to be on the sex

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Speaker 3: offender register, or ask her brother or whatever it is

553
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Speaker 3: her family member.

554
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: Who is a pedophile. If that's disgusting, that's it. Mm hmm.

555
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: Wow, Well that mic was dropped. This is smoking over here,

556
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you.

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Speaker 8: And we still got more topics? Will we got?

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Speaker 6: Andrew I want to throws back up, like, what when

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Speaker 6: do you decide to because this is a good question.

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Speaker 6: This is something that we all talk about sometimes, but

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Speaker 6: when do you decide to respond on versus? Because you

562
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Speaker 6: get a lot of hate your way, and you have

563
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Speaker 6: gotten a lot of hate for a long period of time,

564
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Speaker 6: and you have evolved in a lot of different ways.

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Speaker 6: But when do you when do you decide to respond versus?

566
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Speaker 6: When do you sit back and just let it let

567
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Speaker 6: it chill.

568
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Speaker 2: I sit back and let it chill for a lot.

569
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Speaker 2: But you know I don't have to do that anymore.

570
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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of talk about it.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of response that that's in this body

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Speaker 3: that I didn't get out when I worked in mainstream

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Speaker 3: media for twenty twenty five years. Twenty five years, if

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Speaker 3: not more so, I decided because number one is bubbling up.

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Speaker 3: Number two, Nicki Minaj is you have to and I

576
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Speaker 3: don't mean I mean this metaphorically. You have to punch

577
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Speaker 3: a bully right in the nose. Right You can't sometimes

578
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: like you and you have to no means no. You

579
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 3: have to let a bully know that no means no.

580
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: When Donald Trump says I want to annex Greenland, you

581
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 3: just go no. I said what I said, I'm not

582
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Speaker 3: changing it, and so I think you have to do

583
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: that with Nicki Minaj because she thinks it's funny. And

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Speaker 3: also I think it's also important for a journalist support

585
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Speaker 3: to report the hypocrisy and to let people know that

586
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Speaker 3: for those of us with real papers from real universities

587
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 3: and real degrees, that we studied this and we know

588
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 3: how to read in ways and sometimes in many different

589
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Speaker 3: languages than people who can put up a tweet that is,

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Speaker 3: you know, thirty seconds of something and a picture of

591
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: another thing and they think it's cute. She put up

592
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Speaker 3: a picture of the chucky doll, and I think a

593
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: better something that would better describe the whole situation.

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Speaker 2: And who Nicki Minaj.

595
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: Is is a pick me doll that she should have

596
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Speaker 3: put up in that post. Because Nicki Minaj is a

597
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 3: pick me. She is the definition of what we, especially

598
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 3: Black people, call a pick me, people who cozy up

599
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: to whiteness because they think that somehow that is going

600
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: to get them somewhere or make them not as black.

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Speaker 3: You are not like them, You are one of the

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Speaker 3: good ones. She's a pick me. Put a pick me

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Speaker 3: doll in there. I choose not to pick her, and

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Speaker 3: I think gay people who support her with the homophobic

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00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: thing she said about me and black people as African

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Speaker 3: Americans who support her should stop because they are contributing

607
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Speaker 3: to her vileness.

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Speaker 7: I think that she's given them access to her Twitter account.

609
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Speaker 7: I'm starting to think that that's not even her tweeting.

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Speaker 3: She had to shut down her she had to shut

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Speaker 3: down her Instagram because she lost the followers after the

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00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 3: whole Charlie Kirk thing.

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Speaker 2: You know what I didn't think about.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Andrew. I totally forgot about the mansion.

615
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 3: Did you guys know this thing too? And so I

616
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: did a whole thing on it the other day where

617
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 3: you have to just let people know about things because

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00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 3: they think it's cute. She's also involved in a lawsuit

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Speaker 3: that she lost because her husband reportedly got into a

620
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: fight with the security guard after the security guard broke

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Speaker 3: up a fight reportedly between Nicki Minaj and one of

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Speaker 3: her staff members, and her husband reportedly punched the security

623
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Speaker 3: guard in the face. The security guard has a five

624
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 3: dollars one hundred thousand dollars judgment against them and apparently

625
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: they're not paying it. So they went to court and

626
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 3: the judge said that they were going to take some

627
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 3: of her assets, which included the twenty some million dollar mansion.

628
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 3: And as we are taping this, I think that either

629
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 3: happens today that she had to pay it or tomorrow.

630
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: So if you want to know what's behind somebody's pantics,

631
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Speaker 3: that's what you have to close.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Bard, No, I want to go. I know

633
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Speaker 2: you said big on it, bid on it. No, we can.

634
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 2: Let's go bid on it. Let's go buy.

635
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 3: Just you know what, let's do it. I can raise

636
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Speaker 3: some funds. You want to do it, Bard, I love

637
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 3: to do it.

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Speaker 2: That'd be funny. Take a picture.

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Speaker 1: We got.

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00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 8: We got big topics.

641
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: Well, we got what what what? What? What's up on

642
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: the on the how jams react to the custom piece.

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Speaker 8: We'll talk about cussing later.

644
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 7: But I think because we don't have Don for much longer,

645
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 7: we should jump into protesting in church and the allegations

646
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Speaker 7: of charging him with.

647
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Speaker 8: The k K K Actum.

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Speaker 7: So let us roll this clip from y'all's Assistant Attorney

649
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Speaker 7: General har Meet Dillon and what she had to say

650
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Speaker 7: about prosecuting Don Lemon and others.

651
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 11: It's off limits to go into a house of worship

652
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 11: to do your little protests. Protests can occur on public property,

653
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 11: protests can occur outside you know, on a sidewalk, certain sidewalks,

654
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 11: not all sidewalks. And this is like basic what you

655
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Speaker 11: learn in the first year of law school. There's a

656
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Speaker 11: time placed in manner restrictions on the First Amendment write

657
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Speaker 11: a protest, and they were violated here in this case,

658
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Speaker 11: no question about it. The only question is who was involved,

659
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Speaker 11: how many were involved, and how many chargers are going

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Speaker 11: to be brought here? Those are the questions.

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Speaker 7: So what I think is important here, I just want

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Speaker 7: to remind y'all that this all is going down on

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Speaker 7: Martin Luther King Day. So your Assistant Attorney General goes

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Speaker 7: on a show with this conservative influencer. Earlier in the show,

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Speaker 7: talks about potentially prosecuting Don Lemon and others who were

666
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Speaker 7: in the church under the KKK Act, also know as

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Speaker 7: the Enforcement Act of eighteen seventy one eighteen seventy one.

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Speaker 7: More on that in a second. She later stated that

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Speaker 7: individuals could also be charged under the Freedom of Access

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Speaker 7: to Clinic Entrances Act. This, I think is a important

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Speaker 7: as a backdrop, And we can also pull up the

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Speaker 7: tweet nick where the Assistant Attorney General references the FACE Act,

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Speaker 7: and there's another from Donald Trump on true social about

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Speaker 7: what he thinks should happen to protesters who went into

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Speaker 7: this church. So don if you can talk to the

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Speaker 7: audience a little bit about why you were in this church,

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Speaker 7: whose church it was, and why they thought they saw

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Speaker 7: fit to even be there.

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Speaker 8: You were there reporting?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I was there reporting, And I don't even know

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Speaker 3: the name of the church. I don't even know the

682
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Speaker 3: name of the pastor who was there. But I do

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Speaker 3: know the name of the pastor who was alleged to

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Speaker 3: be and now has been confirmed by the church to

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Speaker 3: be like the I forget some sort of coordinating agent

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Speaker 3: or something of ICE, a directing agent of ICE.

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Speaker 8: In acting field director.

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Speaker 3: Acting right David Easterwood, and that he was a pastor

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Speaker 3: in the church. And so that group said that they

690
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Speaker 3: went there to protest that I didn't even know what

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Speaker 3: the which what you know, what place they were going.

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Speaker 3: It was an organization that people said were doing They

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Speaker 3: had sent out a flyer and they were a protest group,

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Speaker 3: and they had been protesting what was happening in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 3: And I was I landed in Minneapolis and said, sure,

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Speaker 3: I'll go, I'll follow them. I'll just go chronicle what

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Speaker 3: they're doing. And so when I found out it was

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Speaker 3: a church, I sat back for a bit and I said,

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Speaker 3: let them do their thing.

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Speaker 2: Did I know they were going to go in there.

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Speaker 3: Of course, of course they're going to go in there,

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Speaker 3: that's what they do, or go in there around the church. Well,

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Speaker 3: I wasn't sure if they were going to go inside

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Speaker 3: or go around the church or whatever. I didn't know

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Speaker 3: what their actions would be, but I knew that I

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Speaker 3: wanted to report on it because that's part of what

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Speaker 3: was happening that day. And so when they went into

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Speaker 3: the church, I stood there and waited for a bit

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Speaker 3: and waited and waited, and I saw other members of

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Speaker 3: the press going in, and so I walked in. When

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Speaker 3: I saw the when when the unrest happened, I walked

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Speaker 3: in and and just started started saying, Hey, look this

713
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Speaker 3: group is over here. It's chaos right there. They're channing this.

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Speaker 3: They're parishioners and church members over here who are upset.

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Speaker 2: And let me go over.

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Speaker 3: And talk to the pastor, pastor, how do you feel

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Speaker 3: about this, about this happening in the church. And then

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Speaker 3: he did this thing, and I went over to one

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Speaker 3: of the some of the parishioners, I said, what do

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Speaker 3: you feel about this? If they said they didn't want

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Speaker 3: to talk, I said, I understand, and I moved on

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Speaker 3: and uh. And then I talked to the afterwards, the

723
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Speaker 3: members of the group that had organized the protest, and

724
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Speaker 3: that was it. I left and then somehow, yes, somehow,

725
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Speaker 3: I became the face of it. I'm like, I'm not

726
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Speaker 3: the face of it. I'm not a protester. And I

727
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Speaker 3: kept saying to them when people would say, why are

728
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Speaker 3: you going you guys, what do you I said, sir,

729
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Speaker 3: I'm not part I'm not one of the protesters.

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Speaker 2: I'm just here. I'm a journalist and I'm here reporting

731
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Speaker 2: and that's it. Would you like to say something? And

732
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Speaker 2: then that's it?

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Speaker 6: So wow, you know why you're the you know why

734
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Speaker 6: you're the face of it because you are Don Lemon.

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Speaker 6: That's one two. The KKK at don't even apply.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what that said.

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Speaker 3: You can't appear on my show anymore because he's not

738
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Speaker 3: going to be on any KKK members shows.

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Speaker 6: It was passed or reconstruction, and the purpose of it

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Speaker 6: was to suppress the KKK and protect African Americans. Ironically,

741
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Speaker 6: she's saying she's going to prosecute you using this act.

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Speaker 6: It was the reason for it was to protect African

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Speaker 6: Americans and ensure their access to due process, access to

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Speaker 6: hold office, and access to serve on juries.

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Speaker 2: Because what was happening was the KKK.

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Speaker 6: They were getting together and they were going out and

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Speaker 6: intimidating folk, and they were like, we need to make

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Speaker 6: sure we keep this from happening. Nothing that you said,

749
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Speaker 6: the contours the context of what you said falls under

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Speaker 6: the KKK Act.

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Speaker 2: So that's first.

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Speaker 6: Second, nobody should really have an issue with Don Levan

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Speaker 6: going in there and covering the movement or covering a protest,

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Speaker 6: because journalists cover protests, and I believe you have the

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Speaker 6: right to cover it wherever you should or wherever you

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Speaker 6: want to. The third thing, though, is where I disagree

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Speaker 6: with all of y'all, and that I don't think you

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Speaker 6: will believe you should protest in church. I believe that

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Speaker 6: to be whole ground. I believe that to be sacricaying,

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Speaker 6: and I actually I don't mind people covering a protest.

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Speaker 6: My problem is with the protesters, and the reason being

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Speaker 6: is because where do you draw the line. It's an

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Speaker 6: extremely slippery slope, and one of the houses of worship

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Speaker 6: that I find near and dear to my heart is

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Speaker 6: Mother Emmanuel Ami. And in January of twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 6: when Joe Biden was in there speaking, it was crashed

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Speaker 6: by some far left not even far left, but some

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Speaker 6: left wing Charleston National protesters. And you know, it was

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Speaker 6: just a bunch of older black folks in there trying

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Speaker 6: to pray worship and Mother Emmanuel is a sacred place

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Speaker 6: for a lot of us. I mean, it just warms

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Speaker 6: our spirit a lot of us and we're not trying

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Speaker 6: to go to church to have it interrupted by protesters,

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Speaker 6: particularly for this or that. And so I just find

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Speaker 6: that to be a very slippery slope. If you're like, oh,

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Speaker 6: well we can just protest ice, well, who's to keep

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Speaker 6: somebody from protesting single payer healthcare or whatever it may be?

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Speaker 6: And that, for me, it's a very personal thing. I'm

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Speaker 6: not trying tompose it on anybody else. That just crosses

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Speaker 6: a line.

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Speaker 8: I I don't really agree really quick? Can I.

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Speaker 2: Can?

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Speaker 3: I just say one thing and then I'll go, I

784
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Speaker 3: don't disagree with you, but it's not my job. It's

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Speaker 3: not my job to judge whether it's appropriate to.

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Speaker 2: Cover it.

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Speaker 3: And so as a Christian. Yes, it may be uncomfortable,

788
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Speaker 3: and I even say that said that in the report.

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Speaker 3: I can understand why people are uncomfortable. Here, look at

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Speaker 3: the kid. People are consoling their children or whatever. I

791
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Speaker 3: can understand that. But as a journalist, you know, I mean,

792
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Speaker 3: I may have to cover in a war zone. I

793
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 3: may not agree with what our country is doing, but

794
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Speaker 3: it's not my job when I'm covering it to say

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Speaker 3: that it's my job to cover it and then let

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Speaker 3: the people decide, and then I could talk about whether

797
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Speaker 3: it's appropriate or not in another way. So I actually

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Speaker 3: feel very close to similar as you feel about.

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Speaker 12: It without the transparent to Our liberation was fomented in

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Speaker 12: the church, the meetings that led to bus boycotts, that

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Speaker 12: led to table counter protests that led to uh in

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Speaker 12: some cases, the admonishment of our skin folk who were

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Speaker 12: not our kinfault.

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Speaker 1: Correct. The pastors spoke of it, yes, but not all pastors, right,

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Speaker 1: do you remember? Letter from Birmingham jail was directed at

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Speaker 1: all those religious, super religious, black, white and otherwise pastors

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Speaker 1: who said not here Reverend Jackson.

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Speaker 6: Reverend Jackson hated King so much in Chicago he changed

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Speaker 6: his door, his address correct.

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Speaker 2: You're making the point, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know how we I don't know

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Speaker 1: how we go from And I'll stop here, Angela, because

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Speaker 1: I haven't said much by way of opinion here so far.

814
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Speaker 1: But it is I don't think one her meet Dylan

815
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Speaker 1: ought to be setting up the case for whether or

816
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Speaker 1: not protests and churches is or is not correct. This

817
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Speaker 1: is the same woman who would not allow her division

818
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Speaker 1: of civil rights we're supposed to ensure to our civil liberties,

819
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Speaker 1: in our civil rights within this here country, decided that

820
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Speaker 1: she wasn't going to investigate the officer who killed Missus Good. Now,

821
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Speaker 1: I know that the facts aim to be laid out,

822
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Speaker 1: but the federal government has already said they're not launching

823
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Speaker 1: an investigation against Missus Good's killer. This is the same

824
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Speaker 1: woman who decided to dismiss similarily all of the consent

825
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Speaker 1: decrees that precessed her from the last administration, holding those

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Speaker 1: communities accountable who had committed atrocious violations of civil rights

827
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Speaker 1: acts all around the country. She's got no grounds to

828
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Speaker 1: tell us what is and is not appropriate. I'm deeply

829
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Speaker 1: offended by the fact that she even gets to carry

830
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Speaker 1: this title, and certainly that we have to refer to

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Speaker 1: her as a Department of Justice deputy, because this department

832
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Speaker 1: is anything but just that's not what they represent, So

833
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Speaker 1: she doesn't get to set up this frame for me.

834
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Speaker 1: I reject that, but I just want us to keep

835
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Speaker 1: in mind and consider what if this were different day

836
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Speaker 1: in time, And quite frankly, it feels like maybe similar

837
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Speaker 1: day in time, but a different day in time, say

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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty eight, fifty four, nineteen sixty sixty three, at

839
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Speaker 1: a different part of the country, would we be clamoring

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Speaker 1: for our church spaces to be the places in which

841
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Speaker 1: we not only organize, but also go to protests, to

842
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: let our voices be heard, to fight amongst each other,

843
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Speaker 1: before we then descend out into the streets with a

844
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Speaker 1: unified voice and message to move our communities forward the history.

845
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Speaker 1: Now with none of that, I'm not being selective about

846
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Speaker 1: the fact that there are some places where you have

847
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Speaker 1: to go. Paula White here in Florida, how you going

848
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Speaker 1: to hold up the Gospel of Christ on Sunday and

849
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Speaker 1: then on Monday you are treading barbs against our communities,

850
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Speaker 1: all of our communities as you pretend to be pastoral

851
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Speaker 1: moral advisor to President Trump. It just doesn't sink.

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Speaker 2: So I listen.

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Speaker 6: My point is, I agree with, as we oftentimes find ourselves,

854
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Speaker 6: about seventy five percent of what you said. I agree

855
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Speaker 6: with the offensive nature of the Associate Attorney General. I

856
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 6: think she's out of her depth. I don't think she

857
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Speaker 6: deserves her job all of those things. I think that

858
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Speaker 6: her interpretation of the KKK Act is like somebody just

859
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 6: told her that before she went on air, right, I mean,

860
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 6: it's just flatly wrong. But again, we're going back to

861
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Speaker 6: the point that they can be mediocre and still achieve

862
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Speaker 6: these high levels of power. We covered that a little

863
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Speaker 6: bit earlier. But I think that you are highlighting and

864
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Speaker 6: conflating two issues, like, yes, the church was the central

865
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Speaker 6: meeting point. Yes, the church was a point of organization. Yes,

866
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Speaker 6: the church was a place where you could go out

867
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Speaker 6: and articulate from the well of the pulpit. Nobody does

868
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Speaker 6: that better right now than Rafael Warnot. Right Ebenezer, a

869
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Speaker 6: Baptist church. Rafael Warnot goes up there and he talks

870
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Speaker 6: about the scripture. Equates that to making sure that we

871
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Speaker 6: understand Sunday is not the only day that we do this,

872
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Speaker 6: making sure that we're out there doing God's work Monday

873
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Speaker 6: through Saturday, basically relying on the Scripture as a blueprint.

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Speaker 2: I agree with all of that.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying in protesting to the treads on.

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Speaker 2: Us, right, Yeah, I know.

877
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Speaker 6: But but what bothers me though, is in that house

878
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Speaker 6: of worship, a place where we were stripped of everything

879
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 6: that we had when we came here except faith, where

880
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 6: we hold it to be sacricanct, where we hold it

881
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 6: to be a place of home. And yes we can

882
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 6: argue in bicker, because black folks bicker and arguing the

883
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 6: church more than anywhere else.

884
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Speaker 2: What I'm saying, though, is.

885
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Speaker 6: For an outside body, because that's what a protest is,

886
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 6: to come in, to come into our church and your body,

887
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 6: to come come come into our home, regardless of what

888
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 6: it may be, and to protest somebody.

889
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Speaker 2: That's what can we get to behind why you feel that?

890
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 8: I really want to chime in here because I think

891
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 8: that there's go ahead.

892
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Speaker 2: No, I was just going to say.

893
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Speaker 6: The why is that I don't feel like we have

894
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 6: many spaces that are our own. I don't feel that

895
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Speaker 6: we have spaces that we can have a certain level

896
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Speaker 6: of peace. I don't feel like there are spaces where

897
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 6: you can go in and rest in your thoughts, in

898
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 6: your faith, in your worship. I mean, I go sit

899
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Speaker 6: at Potter's house and be up there crying in that moment.

900
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Speaker 6: The last thing I want somebody to do is comeing

901
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Speaker 6: in and protest because I don't like Bernie Sanders, like

902
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Speaker 6: that is for me something that I find to be

903
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 6: mine and my Lord, and I want to have that time.

904
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Speaker 6: And I just I ain't protesting in nobody's church.

905
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

906
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Speaker 7: I'm just going to tell you this, Like there's a

907
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Speaker 7: difference between fascism faith and black liberation theology. And so

908
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Speaker 7: I think that the main thing that we're we're conflating

909
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Speaker 7: here now is that all places of worship are made equal.

910
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Speaker 7: I want to remind the audience that the purpose of

911
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 7: this particular protest is because David Easterwood, who is a

912
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Speaker 7: pastor at City's Church, is the field director, the acting

913
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 7: field director for Saint Paul, the Ice for Ice in

914
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 7: Saint Paul, renee Good was killed. The protest was because

915
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Speaker 7: renee Good was killed or that man's leadership.

916
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Speaker 8: And so it would be one thing if they were

917
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 8: protesting scripture.

918
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 7: It would be one thing if they were protesting the

919
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 7: fact that they didn't like this particular path because they

920
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 7: don't like what he preached about last Sunday. It would

921
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Speaker 7: be another thing as well, Bakari, if people went to

922
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Speaker 7: Mother Emmanuel to protest the fact that Dylan Rufe.

923
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Speaker 8: Didn't get a big enough cheeseburger.

924
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Speaker 7: On the other side of killing the parishioners at Bible study,

925
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Speaker 7: what we're talking about are people who are protesting because

926
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Speaker 7: their lives are at risk.

927
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 8: What we're talking about is people who took on the

928
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Speaker 8: mantle of Jesus.

929
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Speaker 7: In Matthew twenty one, verses twelve and thirteen when he

930
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 7: flipped the tables over. We're talking about protesting Pharisees and Sadducees,

931
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Speaker 7: not gentiles who don't know any better. We're talking about

932
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Speaker 7: protesting people who act under the color of law, people

933
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Speaker 7: who were acting under fake moral authority. Not what is

934
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Speaker 7: biblically true, Not what is loving your neighbor as yourself,

935
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Speaker 7: Not what is feeding the poor, not what is taking

936
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Speaker 7: care of the migrants, Not what is taking care of

937
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Speaker 7: people who are.

938
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Speaker 8: In prison, incarcerated and being done wrong. Clothing the naked.

939
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Speaker 7: They took a naked man outside of his house, fresh

940
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Speaker 7: out of the shop, hour with this ice.

941
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Speaker 8: So I think that we've got to differentiate between.

942
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Speaker 2: But how do you differentiate how how do you my pointing.

943
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Speaker 8: It's immoral protesting? What is it moral under the color

944
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 8: of the cloth.

945
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Speaker 6: But I mean, you we just had a protest. We

946
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 6: had a protested mother emanual. It wasn't about a cheeseburger.

947
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Speaker 6: We had these cars came in and Joe Biden is,

948
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 6: why do you.

949
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: Think of church's off limits? Why is it?

950
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 3: Why is that off limits? Do we deem religion to

951
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 3: be off limits? Because that's problematic too, because you ever know,

952
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: I don't think religion because God said so, And then

953
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 3: you go, I don't think that.

954
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Speaker 2: Religion is off said so for slavery.

955
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Speaker 6: I mean I think I think I don't think religion

956
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 6: is off limits. I mean, in fact, I think that

957
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 6: religion as a vessel for protest. I mean, I just

958
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 6: took my kids out to see the Buddhist monks that

959
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 6: are traveling from Houston, Texas. They're walking twenty three hundred miles,

960
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Speaker 6: and I just you know, it's not my religion, it's

961
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Speaker 6: not my faith, but I wanted my kids to be

962
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Speaker 6: able to be a part of that movement. See things

963
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Speaker 6: they got a chance to meet the monks, meet a local,

964
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 6: the little dog. But my point is this, we're we're

965
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Speaker 6: setting this arbitrary red line, or this arbitrary line that

966
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Speaker 6: houses of worship, and that that is what that is

967
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Speaker 6: what bothers me. I mean houses of worship.

968
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Speaker 1: You you established the red line. I don't believe there

969
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Speaker 1: is a line.

970
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Speaker 2: No, that's but no, no, no.

971
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Speaker 6: But I'm responding to Angela because Angela. Angela was dictating

972
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Speaker 6: that all churches are not created equal, which although I agree,

973
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Speaker 6: although trust me, I do agree with who is who

974
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Speaker 6: is the arbiter of that line?

975
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: Who?

976
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: My line is very clear.

977
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 8: Means I think it's God. I think it's God, and

978
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Speaker 8: it's the guy in me.

979
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: I think that.

980
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 3: Look, I understand how you feel as a Christian, as

981
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Speaker 3: a as a practicing Christian. I understand how you feel

982
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 3: about that. But I would also have to ask you

983
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Speaker 3: about what if there were people whose children had been

984
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Speaker 3: abused by priests. Would you not want them to go

985
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 3: into a Catholic church and say that man abused my child,

986
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Speaker 3: that man sexually sulted mynd nine or ten or seven whatever?

987
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 3: Would it be like, Oh, you can't tell your truth

988
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 3: because you just can't go into a church.

989
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 6: No, I mean I think you can go Like I

990
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Speaker 6: think that if you have a child who is a

991
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Speaker 6: victim of child sex abuse, like in your example, and

992
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Speaker 6: you are someone who stands up and says, in that spirit,

993
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 6: it comes over you and you tell and you speak

994
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 6: your truth in that moment, right, that is what the

995
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 6: church is for. If you're speaking your truth, that is

996
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 6: what the church is for. Organ But hold on, hold on.

997
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 6: And he was also talking about a member of that

998
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Speaker 6: church or somebody who had a relationship with that church.

999
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: Relevantly, what I'm talking about.

1000
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 6: What I'm talking about is creating an outside entity that

1001
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 6: has no affiliation with the church at all and protesting

1002
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 6: that church or inside that church.

1003
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Speaker 3: I mean, what if it's a group of people who

1004
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 3: are protesting against child's sex abuse and some of the

1005
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,479
Speaker 3: child sex abuses are in that church.

1006
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 6: I mean, look, I think that we can go down

1007
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 6: this path and have the have these exceptions, and I

1008
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 6: think that there are places.

1009
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Speaker 8: In times perceptions, there are places in tops.

1010
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 2: Well, we start trying, we're trying to create more exceptions too.

1011
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 6: But my my biggest, my biggest, my biggest problem, my

1012
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 6: biggest problem is that we're we are saying that this

1013
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 6: is okay, this is this is okay because this is

1014
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 6: an issue that drives us. This is okay because we're

1015
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 6: all four of us are completely outraged by the behavior

1016
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 6: of Ice. That is a similarity, and that is a

1017
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 6: message that all of us convey today. Ice is fucking

1018
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 6: up and destroying people's neighborhoods.

1019
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 2: I agree with that.

1020
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 6: However, when Andrew gillim or Bacari Sellers or Angela r

1021
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 6: speak at the next church and we are rolling through

1022
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 6: talking about the pain and the fight for Black liberation,

1023
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 6: and then you have a group of Moms for liberty,

1024
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 6: have no affiliation with that church, come in the church

1025
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 6: and say.

1026
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: You niggas are bad for society.

1027
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: If they want life, if they wanted to shoot their

1028
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: shot in that way, come on right. Because because the

1029
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: environment will curate its own experience and make the choice,

1030
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: we don't get to be selective about what issue necessitates protests.

1031
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: I think church as a venue. I think whatever it is,

1032
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: whatever it is, because people don't generally just randomly show

1033
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,439
Speaker 1: up in churches to protest for no reason. Usually people

1034
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: are engineered by something that has occurred. There is usually

1035
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: a connection and that provides the moral clarity for the

1036
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: people who are part of that protest to be in

1037
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 1: that place at that time. I just think in today's society,

1038
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: and quite frankly for our community, it's been that way

1039
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: since jump in this country. But in today's society, uh,

1040
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: where churches, particularly white evangelical churches, are organizing politics, organizing

1041
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: centers of politics. I don't understand how we then draw

1042
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: the line. But you said twice, and it's can use

1043
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: a church to organize a protest, you just can't execute

1044
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: one thing.

1045
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 2: You've said this twice.

1046
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 6: Can you name me throughout history using your civil rights

1047
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 6: direct line and metaphor, can you name me an organized

1048
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 6: protest that black folks have had in opposition inside of

1049
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 6: the house of worship?

1050
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 3: You know, we people have to integrate churches and integrating

1051
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 3: black people, innovating churches and going in I am the churches.

1052
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 2: That's a form of protest.

1053
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about large scale I'm not talking about

1054
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: large scale movement, march on Washington type stuff. That's what

1055
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: I have been a part of congregations where people have

1056
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 1: come in and protested, including I've seen in my community

1057
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: people who have come in and protested the pastor who

1058
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: is sleeping with uh uh, this.

1059
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: This person's history. I'm not about.

1060
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: You to curate you're trying to This.

1061
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Speaker 7: Is also inner churches, because then the inn church beef

1062
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Speaker 7: is that they are not abiding. We literally have someone

1063
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 7: who is the pastor of the church.

1064
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 2: Facilitating go ahead. I'm sure.

1065
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 7: Well, all I'm saying is this, let me just reference

1066
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 7: the law. Because you reference Kkkact, we know that was

1067
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Speaker 7: created under reconstruction. But also this Assistant Attorney General references

1068
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 7: the freedom of access to clinic entrances active nineteen ninety four.

1069
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Speaker 7: You know the sponsor was the late Ted Kennedy. The

1070
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Speaker 7: reason I'm bringing this up is as a compromise, places

1071
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 7: of worship were integrated into this particular legislation. But this

1072
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,479
Speaker 7: was really about people who are defacing clinics where people

1073
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 7: were getting abortions. Now they say specifically in this bill

1074
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 7: that there's nothing in here that should be taking away

1075
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 7: activities protected by free speech or free exercise clauses the

1076
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 7: First Amendment, and I think that it is very important

1077
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 7: that we decipher between the two. We can feel disrespected,

1078
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 7: we can feel afraid, we can feel concerned that people

1079
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 7: are in places that we normally deem sacred, but which

1080
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 7: should be more sacred than anything else else in this

1081
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,280
Speaker 7: life in this country, is life itself.

1082
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Speaker 8: And this woman's life was taken from her.

1083
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Speaker 7: So these pro life people at this city's church, and

1084
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 7: they're acting Ice director, who is also their pastor, should

1085
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,439
Speaker 7: have to make a statement, should have to be clear

1086
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 7: about where they stand in this. Donald Trump is even saying, well,

1087
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Speaker 7: Ice has made some mistakes. He's being very cavalier about it,

1088
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 7: but at least he's even acknowledged that they've made mistakes.

1089
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Speaker 7: This pastor's not doing that, and I thntion our folks

1090
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 7: have every right to demand that he says something, if

1091
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 7: nothing else, an apology to her family.

1092
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Speaker 1: Angel I just I agree with you. I simply just

1093
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Speaker 1: want to align myself with I am issue agnostic about

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Speaker 1: what the protests may be or may be about. I

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Speaker 1: understand that there are many of us who hold in

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Speaker 1: our hearts, our churches sacrasanc. There are people who also

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Speaker 1: hold their traffic time, the streets that they go on

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00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: to get from and to work sacri sank and do

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Speaker 1: not believe you should be able to come into the

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Speaker 1: intersection and disrupt that protest is fine, So long as

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Speaker 1: it doesn't disrupt me. But the meaning of protest, the

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Speaker 1: very essence of why we do it, is to shake

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00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: you out of your normal to do something so drastic,

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Speaker 1: so different, so capturing, and quite frankly out of place,

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Speaker 1: for the moment that I hold your attention, so that

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Speaker 1: you get to hear what it is that I have

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Speaker 1: to say. Again, I think, obviously, I consider my church

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00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: base sacred, my prayer time sacred, o my home sacred,

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Speaker 1: and so many other things, and there are laws around.

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Speaker 4: All of that.

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Speaker 1: But protest, by its essence, at its depth, at its

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Speaker 1: very meaning, is to frankly, to cause you to say

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Speaker 1: a man or ouch, And more of us will likely

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00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 1: say ouch, because it is happening out of our comfort zone.

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Speaker 1: And that is the point.

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Speaker 3: I agree with her, whether I agree with her or

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Speaker 3: you agree with it, and I am torn. I have

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00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 3: mixed feelings about it. I still believe that my role

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00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 3: as a journalist, not as a protester, is protected under

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Speaker 3: the First Amendment, and it be chronicled, should be chronicled, because.

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Speaker 2: Then you don't know what.

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00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 3: Imagine if there were no journalists there and it was

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00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 3: not chronicled, and if it was not recorded, they could

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Speaker 3: have made things up about what the protesters did. The

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00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 3: protesters could have made things up about and now you

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00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 3: see it all on camera. And that is the role

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Speaker 3: of a journalist.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, and we need you, We need you in

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00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: the first Amendment also needs you, and we also need Congress, but.

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Speaker 2: Do they need to be We also need Jesus. But

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Speaker 2: I was just I think we all four of us

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00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: will agree.

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Speaker 6: You walk up and protesting the black church, your experience,

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00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 6: to use term will be curated.

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00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: That's now.

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00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 8: Outside of the protest.

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00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 2: But put some flyers on the cars. Don't come up here.

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00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 2: That's what I said.

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00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: If you feel a real froggy, you want to leap, Okay,

1140
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: you go ahead.

1141
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 3: When you walk into the church, there's a big sign

1142
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 3: on the door that says, don't start.

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00:57:53,320 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 13: None who cares about truth and.

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00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 4: The loss more than saying it.

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Speaker 7: So according to NBC News, twenty four members of Congress

1146
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 7: are eighty four or older, and more than half of

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00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 7: them are running for reelection.

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00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 8: But Kari and I got.

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00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 7: Into a heated discussion about this just briefly, and so

1150
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 7: I was like, well, you know, we should run that

1151
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Speaker 7: thing back into the show. So I want to talk

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00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 7: very quickly about the aging of our Congress and whether

1153
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 7: or not age is nothing but a number or if

1154
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 7: it's all the numbers. Clearly we see the impact of

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Speaker 7: age on Donald Trump's presidency. People talked about it quite

1156
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 7: a bit with Joe Biden's presidency. Don I got to

1157
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 7: hear from you, what do you think about the age

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00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 7: of our Congress.

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Speaker 3: Look, I don't want to seem like I'm straddling the

1160
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 3: fence here, but I think you need a combination of both.

1161
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 3: I think that I think there's time for some people

1162
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 3: to just say, you know, there comes a time we

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00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 3: have to say so long, like Carol Burnett said so

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Speaker 3: And I think we have to make room for young

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00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 3: people with pressure ideas, because that's how if you ever

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Speaker 3: hang around a young person like my social media team

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Speaker 3: keeps me young and they have great ideas. And a

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Speaker 3: lot of the folks who are the old folks don't

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Speaker 3: understand where the world is going AI, you know, streaming

1170
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Speaker 3: computers and all of that. But I believe there is

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Speaker 3: one thing that older people have that we can't buy,

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Speaker 3: and that's wisdom. And I think we have to respect

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Speaker 3: that wisdom. And also you have to respect experience because

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Speaker 3: there are things that people with experience, they've gone through

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Speaker 3: one hundred times before, and they know how to deal

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Speaker 3: with it.

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Speaker 2: They know how to deal with.

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Speaker 3: Pressure and pain and grief and all of those things

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Speaker 3: that one of the younger souls may not be able

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Speaker 3: to deal with as well. So I think you need both.

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Speaker 3: You need the old one, you know, each one, teach one.

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Speaker 3: I think you need some of the older folks to

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Speaker 3: do that and some of the younger folks to come in.

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Speaker 3: But I do believe that we need more young people.

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Speaker 3: They are younger voices, pressure ideas.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 8: I hear that, Bakari. So you want to get rid

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Speaker 8: of all the old people? So what you got?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I mean I'm somewhat with donnad. First of all, every

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Speaker 6: eighty year old, all eighty year olds aren't equal. I

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Speaker 6: think we all know that, right. I think that we

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Speaker 6: see that in our own lives. You have these eighty

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Speaker 6: year olds.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 6: I was looking at the other day Llkuj's mama, right.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if y'all saw that picture. He was

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Speaker 6: celebrating a birthday, I believe, and she was. I mean,

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Speaker 6: they said, I don't want to guess the age, but

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Speaker 6: she was she was up there, right, but she looked amazing,

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01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 6: like she looked like she had to be fifty years old.

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Speaker 6: So every eighty year old is not equal. And we're

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Speaker 6: we're not talking about casting folk aside. There are two

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Speaker 6: issues that I have, particularly with black leadership in the

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Speaker 6: aging One both in our church. We've been church heavy

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01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 6: in this program, but both in our church and our

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Speaker 6: civic organizations as well as our politics. We don't create

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01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 6: succession plans. We don't have any idea who or what

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01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 6: we're looking for in the next upcoming leader, which means

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Speaker 6: that when something has happens to our aging leaders, when

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01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 6: they fall a brick a hip, when they have a

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Speaker 6: heart attack, when it's a tragedy that strikes, whatever it

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Speaker 6: may be, we're just sitting out here. Just the John

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Speaker 6: Conyer's district is probably one of the better examples, right, Michigan. Detroit,

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Speaker 6: Michigan has no black the city of Detroit one of

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Speaker 6: the blackest, I think it is the blackest major city

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01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 6: in the United States of America. Has no black representative

1218
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 6: in the United States Congress, not a one. Right, and

1219
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 6: you begin to see those things. The other thing is,

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01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 6: and this is when Angela really gets mad at me

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01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 6: because I think that we need a job fair, but

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01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 6: these neighbors, like I think we need a job fair

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01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 6: for black elected officials in particular, because when white boys

1224
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 6: get to a certain age, they cash out, they go

1225
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 6: to think things.

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Speaker 2: They go to SaaS.

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Speaker 6: Maybe he please just I know he's Senator SaaS is

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Speaker 6: somebody who actually asked the question. Although I disagree with

1229
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 6: him politically, he asked a question what can I do

1230
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 6: for my country, not what can my country do for me?

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Speaker 6: And I don't know if you all saw his post

1232
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 6: recently that he is what can UF pay for next?

1233
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 6: He's in stage four cancer and he doesn't have that

1234
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 6: much longer left to live. So I just wanted to

1235
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 6: uh kind of throw that throw throw that out there

1236
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Speaker 6: as a random aside. But you know, you have these

1237
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Speaker 6: individuals who go to these college campuses like SaaS at

1238
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 6: UF or whatever it is, and a lot of times

1239
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 6: black folk in elected office don't have a landing spot.

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01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 2: We talk about that all the time. We don't have

1241
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 2: a landing spot.

1242
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Speaker 6: And so when I think I think about the age

1243
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 6: in Congress, it's like one we don't have a succession plan.

1244
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 6: I'm not saying get rid of all the old folks,

1245
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 6: everybody above the eighties shouldn't run. Jim Cloudburn lasts at

1246
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 6: me all the time because he says, every time I

1247
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 6: shake his hand, I check his pulse, right, he says.

1248
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 2: Macary, I'm only taking one cholesterol pill. I'm in good shape. Right.

1249
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Speaker 2: That's cool.

1250
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 6: Everybody's not created equal, but we need a succession plan

1251
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 6: and we need to make sure that our they have

1252
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 6: a great landing spot that like the white boys do,

1253
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 6: so they can actually go out and create wealth for

1254
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 6: their families and reap the benefits of their service.

1255
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Speaker 7: This is this is one thing that I think and

1256
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 7: Andrew want you to weigh in here too. But there's

1257
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 7: one area in particular that I want you to address.

1258
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 7: Bacari has been controversial, particularly on the Hill. There are

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01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 7: members of Congress, especially our older ones, people who are

1260
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 7: my mentors, like father figures to me, mother figures to me,

1261
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 7: who have taken great issue with the fact that they

1262
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 7: were told that you wanted to run against Congressman Clyburn

1263
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 7: and you were ready to take him out us form

1264
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 7: of an intern So I would like for you to

1265
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 7: address this once and for all.

1266
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Speaker 2: Oh.

1267
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've always told people, I've always told people, and

1268
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 6: I tell Congressman that, first of all, I don't address

1269
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 6: I don't address everything, like That's one of the questions

1270
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 6: I asked Don earlier in the show, Like I don't

1271
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 6: address everything because everything don't need to be addressed. And

1272
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 6: if people around Congressman Cliburn want to tell him I'm

1273
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 6: running against him, so what I mean, you kind of

1274
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 6: listen when you can pick up the phone and call me,

1275
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 6: that's that's fine. I've never made any steps to run

1276
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 6: against Congressman Clyburn. If I've been critical of something he's

1277
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 6: done in the media, ask me, I will like anybody else.

1278
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 6: I mean, I think we have that relationship, we have

1279
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 6: that respect for each other. He and I have a

1280
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 6: great relationship. But I've told him many times I have

1281
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 6: no intentions of running against Jim Cliver. I mean, I

1282
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 6: don't have I don't, I don't. I don't want to

1283
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 6: do that. I don't feel that to be good for

1284
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 6: black folk in any in any way shape form, for

1285
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 6: this district and somebody who served and who brought stuff back,

1286
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 6: you know, it is what it is now.

1287
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 2: You're not going to be able to pass that seat

1288
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 2: down to X y Z. But I don't.

1289
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 6: I have a great deal of respect for Jim Clavern

1290
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 6: and his family, and I've never that was something.

1291
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 2: The funny part about.

1292
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Speaker 6: That is that that's so dc that it's like decently

1293
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 6: irrelevant to anybody in the sixth Congressional District, decently irrelevant

1294
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 6: to anybody in South Carolina, because everybody down here knows,

1295
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 6: and no one in here is like, but car go

1296
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 6: run against Jim, And I'm not telling people I am.

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01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 7: Well, I wanted to clear that up because I think

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01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 7: that's important in the context for this particular topic. Andrew,

1299
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 7: you're a former young elected official, developed young elected officials

1300
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 7: network through people for the American way, and I think

1301
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 7: it's so important that we're building a bench, but we're

1302
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 7: also not throwing away our elders. There is no succession

1303
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 7: plan for a lot of the members of Congress, particularly

1304
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 7: the black members. It's the most money that many of

1305
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 7: them have ever made in their lives to say you

1306
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 7: need to leave here. The question is and do what

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Speaker 7: you know. And also, Congressman Waters has more energy than

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Speaker 7: some of the thirty and forty year old members of Congress.

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Speaker 7: So I do think it's very dumb to say, oh,

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Speaker 7: if you're over this age because the third oldest Congress

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Speaker 7: in history, you should have to automatically step down. Who

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Speaker 7: has the ability, the wherewithal, the knowledge to fight against

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Speaker 7: this type of authority is here in regime.

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Speaker 8: Who was closer to.

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Speaker 7: Jim Crow and knows what happens and how to combat

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Speaker 7: when segregationist policies are front and center.

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Speaker 8: We should not be thrown away all of our elders.

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Speaker 7: And we certainly now, if you're not doing nothing, I

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Speaker 7: don't care what age you are, you should be run against.

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Speaker 8: That's completely different.

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Speaker 7: But I think this blanket idea that if you're older

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Speaker 7: you automatically need to be tossed aside is just bad.

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Speaker 6: But let's also say this, and I'm gonna call a

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Speaker 6: name out and people whatever, take it how you wish.

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Speaker 6: But I love Eleanor Holmes Norton with a passion. She's

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Speaker 6: done so much for DC. She does not need to

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Speaker 6: run for reelection.

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Speaker 8: I mean agreed.

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Speaker 6: I mean, there are there are certain people who we

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Speaker 6: know who we see with our eyes like I mean,

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Speaker 6: it's it's it's I guess it's people now look at

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Speaker 6: it as like a Joe Biden test, right, that just

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Speaker 6: don't need to be running for office again, and we

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Speaker 6: need to be confident like Chuck Grassley doesn't need to

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Speaker 6: be running for office again from the great state of Iowa.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is not a this is not a

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Speaker 6: democratic problem. This is a problem I believe across the electorate.

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Speaker 6: And I I think people give me more grief because

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Speaker 6: I'm not afraid to like, we deal with these the

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Speaker 6: three of us. We deal with these people consistently all

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Speaker 6: the time. They're friends, many of them are friends. If

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Speaker 6: they're not friends with us, they've been friends with our parents, right,

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Speaker 6: So we have to be willing to hold them accountable.

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Speaker 2: I think I don't. I don't find that to be

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Speaker 2: out of the out of the ballpark.

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Speaker 1: I agree on on on the on many of the points. One,

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Speaker 1: there's really ever a retirement land. There's really ever a

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Speaker 1: place to go when you when you leave a place

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Speaker 1: like that. And let's just be honest, once you've been

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Speaker 1: in a position to have that will, that kind of

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Speaker 1: influence over the lives of people, it's very hard to

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Speaker 1: find a place where you feel like your best and

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Speaker 1: highest talents are being called upon and are utilized. And

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Speaker 1: people don't want to be put out in the pasture

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Speaker 1: when they're not ready for pasture. And so I'm a

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Speaker 1: big fan of leaving you know, people's term limits, what

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Speaker 1: your opinion and aging out, you know, force retirement. D Look,

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Speaker 1: if you are on a ballot that already exists, the

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Speaker 1: voters are the arbiters of whether or not you get

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Speaker 1: a term or you get your limit, and they you

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Speaker 1: have to trust them to decide that for themselves. And

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Speaker 1: they've been able to do that even against long term

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Speaker 1: institutional names. Voters have gone out and shot you know,

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Speaker 1: the system by turning you know, those kinds of people

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Speaker 1: out or re electing them and saying go back and

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Speaker 1: keep up the fight. I will say this as well,

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Speaker 1: because you laid out some of my early credentials with

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Speaker 1: development of young leaders and and and the young Lative

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Speaker 1: Officials network is one of the things that it showed

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Speaker 1: me as well. And I wasn't planning for this, but

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Speaker 1: it showed me also who absolutely should.

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Speaker 2: Not ever be in office again.

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Speaker 1: And if I had a chance to put you out,

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Speaker 1: I'd do it right now right. It's similar to this

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Speaker 1: whole thing about all old people aren't created equal, all

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Speaker 1: young people are not created equal, with equal talents, equal

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Speaker 1: moral compass equal uh vision uh equal uh, philosophical development

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Speaker 1: around what you believe that you know. The presidential Remember

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Speaker 1: we talked a little while back about Gavin Newsom, and

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Speaker 1: I don't have any I don't know him well. I

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Speaker 1: think he helped with the fundraiser when I was running

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Speaker 1: for governor and we met uh a few times. But

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Speaker 1: my biggest issue is I feel like he's sort of

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Speaker 1: sort of rediscovering a new version of himself politically that

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Speaker 1: doesn't feel very connected to philosophical beliefs, but rather sort

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Speaker 1: of you know this whole brow thing, right, Like, I

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Speaker 1: don't get I don't know what it leads to. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why. I know that young white men are

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Speaker 1: being attracted to the Republican Party and lure to them,

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Speaker 1: and are lured by things like people who go to

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Speaker 1: the gym and who have muscles, and who have pretty

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Speaker 1: wives and girlfriends, and you know that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: But is that what we're emulating? Like what is the derivative?

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Speaker 1: What does that lead to? Because when you're president of

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Speaker 1: the United States and you are quite virtually the most

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Speaker 1: powerful person in the world, I really don't want you

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Speaker 1: there figuring out whether or not your philosophical belief system

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Speaker 1: exist or whether you have to invent it based off

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Speaker 1: of either who's around you, the last person in the room,

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Speaker 1: or how good person looks. And I'm not assigning those

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Speaker 1: motives to him. I'm simply saying I don't really care

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Speaker 1: as much about the age as much as I care

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Speaker 1: about people being at home in themselves. Like I can

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Speaker 1: say no very clearly. I'm so much more clear, and

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Speaker 1: life has taught me some things that I didn't know

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Speaker 1: when I first got in. I wasn't bad as an elected.

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Speaker 2: When I first got in.

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Speaker 1: I was extremely I felt energetic and curious and innovative,

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Speaker 1: but also very pollyannish and am not always clear about

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Speaker 1: why somebody was in front of me, what they were

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Speaker 1: asking for, who was on the come up on the

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Speaker 1: other end. So I just think that there are things

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Speaker 1: that season you over time that ultimately will yield a

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Speaker 1: better product for the people who put you there on

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Speaker 1: their behalfs. So develop yourself first, develop your lifelosophical thinking

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Speaker 1: and belief system, Develop your own moral compass, Develop where

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Speaker 1: the red line to is that I will not go beyond,

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Speaker 1: and then we can talk about you running.

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Speaker 8: And then don't be afraid to evolve while you're in

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Speaker 8: you should you know.

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Speaker 6: You shouldn't it from somewhere You're right, I mean Andrews,

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Speaker 6: and Andrew, that last portion of that uh soliloquy was

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Speaker 6: just superb like it was. It was brilliant because I

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Speaker 6: echo that sentiment all the time about because people come

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Speaker 6: up to you that, like young people especially, I want

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Speaker 6: to run for office.

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Speaker 2: I want to run for office.

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Speaker 6: I'm like dog, spend some time with yourself, like figure out.

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Speaker 6: The other thing is we go into office broke, which

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Speaker 6: leads to a lot of other persons about that. I

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Speaker 6: mean that, you know, we we go into office thinking it.

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Speaker 1: Could lead to a lot of our problems if the

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Speaker 1: money is the value and you haven't thought about how

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Speaker 1: you cover your Maslow's hierarchy of.

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Speaker 7: Needs, and if you think that you might because my

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Speaker 7: joys can do things that y'all came in office, Let's be.

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Speaker 8: Clear about that.

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Speaker 6: And I do think that I do think that Andrew,

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Speaker 6: you and I and Angela to Angela as well are

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Speaker 6: somewhat to blame because a lot of people see running

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Speaker 6: for office as this kind of springboard to platforming themselves

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Speaker 6: on TV or other things.

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Speaker 2: Celebrity and you know the celebrity, the celebrity and politics thing.

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Speaker 6: When I ran for office in two thousand and six,

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Speaker 6: much like when you ran for office first, that wasn't

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Speaker 6: a part of its celebrity and politics. Yeah, the celebrity

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Speaker 6: and politics didn't really come along until you have Barack Obama,

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Speaker 6: when people beganify and you had that intersection of politics, culture, sport,

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Speaker 6: and entertainment. Right, that's when people were like, oh my god,

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Speaker 6: you can go out and I mean you got political

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Speaker 6: groupies now right. I mean it's just a fascinating type

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Speaker 6: of of of a profession and it should.

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Speaker 1: Be oh, of course, because you are the angel right

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Speaker 1: the but but Caari building off that, I just wanted

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Speaker 1: to say.

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Speaker 2: Go to commercial after that.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I was just you're the thing that happens.

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Speaker 1: I should to drop the mic.

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Speaker 2: Sorry she felt anyway.

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Speaker 1: But but is that there are those who we know

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Speaker 1: are in the field who make it look easy, that

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Speaker 1: that the way you experienced them, it seems so effortless.

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Speaker 1: You actually convince yourself that there is no effort, that

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Speaker 1: that that there's nothing that came before that amazing experience

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Speaker 1: that you had with them. That you also feel like

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Speaker 1: you can replicate like, oh, I think I can do that, right,

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Speaker 1: But you know what there is more what what was that?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 1: This uld to be this commercial? Uh? And Alicia Key said,

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Speaker 1: my overnight success has been decades in the making. So

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Speaker 1: we see the highlight reel and think, oh, well, you

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Speaker 1: know if I get getting that, and then I'm no,

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Speaker 1: this has been building, this has been happening, this has

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Speaker 1: been coming the whole hour. We're the same age, and

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Speaker 1: I want to want and be what did what have

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Speaker 1: you done? What has made you ready for the moment?

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Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean you had to have been elected before,

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Speaker 1: but you bet I'd be able to tell me something

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Speaker 1: about something that gives you the siffing spine that this

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Speaker 1: is the work that you should be doing for others.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise you should definitely go in intern for the person

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Speaker 1: who is holding the seat that you think belonged to

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Speaker 1: you or some other thing.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: But I think there is an impression sometimes that there

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Speaker 1: are those who make the thing look sort of effortless,

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Speaker 1: that people think you can get it and then be

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Speaker 1: effortless as well, And that just means unprepared, not ready

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Speaker 1: for the moment. You're call flat footed at the first crisis,

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Speaker 1: so on and so forth. So no, the Overnight story

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Speaker 1: has been decades in the making.

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Speaker 7: I want to just point out that you always make

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Speaker 7: everything look so effortless. And for another one who makes

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Speaker 7: things look effortless, Don who joined us today, he had

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Speaker 7: to step out because he got legal stuff to deal

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Speaker 7: with thanks to your crazy administration.

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Speaker 8: But we're going to effortlessly. Now go to our CTAs

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Speaker 8: where Don will rejoin us.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knows.

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Speaker 3: My call to action is to like and subscribe to

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Speaker 3: a substack on Instagram and all of the platforms, because

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Speaker 3: the ground, and I'm very happy to be in this

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Speaker 3: Jim Acosta, like Georgia fort in Minnesota, and others who

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Speaker 3: are out here like Roland Martin, Angela, Andrew.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, Bacar. You kind of a hybrid,

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Speaker 2: so I'm halfway proud of you. I'm kidding you know.

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Speaker 2: I'm very proud of you to.

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Speaker 3: Oh to vote for me, vote for me for the

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Speaker 3: four NAACP Image Awards that I was nominated for.

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Speaker 8: So he's in our category. If he's in our category,

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Speaker 8: vote for U.

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01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,759
Speaker 2: I was about to say, give them your second.

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01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 3: I love you guys, and you I'm sure you love me,

1527
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 3: but you want people to vote for you, right, and

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01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 3: I want people to vote for me.

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01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 7: So but if you win in the tape, it'll be

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01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 7: for our page. But yes, keep going. You can vote

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01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 7: for him another three categories.

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01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 6: Before I hop into my CTA's, I wanted to make

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01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 6: sure I made two very very quick announcements. The first

1534
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 6: is that my sub stack is launching. It has launched.

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01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 2: Check it out.

1536
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 6: Shout out to my team, Brian Fitz, shout out to

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01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 6: Jerry Loho. It has written material for me. You can

1538
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 6: find everything from seeing in appearances, speaking in current speaking engagements,

1539
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 6: Native lampod, all of those things. Oh and my second

1540
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 6: announcement ties right into the Native lamp pod. Because every

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01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 6: other Monday beginning on January twenty sixth, we're gonna kick

1542
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 6: off my solo pod, which is just going to be

1543
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 6: a little bit of time I spend with you, kind

1544
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,560
Speaker 6: of live ish, I guess. I don't know talk to

1545
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 6: the producers about that, but we'll be talking about sports, entertainment, politics, culture,

1546
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 6: all the things that you want us to cover. And

1547
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 6: I think that's important to note right before I get

1548
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 6: into my call to action. My my call to action

1549
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 6: is very simple. I always tell people, particularly young people,

1550
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 6: that the most important currency in this country, in the

1551
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 6: world that you have the then you should cultivate more

1552
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 6: than money, is relationships. And my relationship with Don Lemon

1553
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,640
Speaker 6: has been something that has been amazing from a very

1554
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 6: long period of time, from when Caputo called me boy

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01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 6: uh during the commercial break of the Don Lemon Show,

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01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 6: uh too, when he he was just like.

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01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 2: Breathe that was Matt slap. I didn't mean computo match slap.

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01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 2: You're right, And do you know who is on show? Mark?

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01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 6: I was thinking about the other I was thinking about

1560
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 6: the other computo in my head, not Mark, but the

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01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 6: other one.

1562
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 2: But it was Matt slap. But yeah, I know he was.

1563
01:17:58,520 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 2: I know he was never on the show again. But

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01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 2: you you meant so much to us.

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01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 6: And I don't think I think that, you know, for

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01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 6: a long period of time, for a long period of time,

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01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 6: you got uh somewhat deserving le an interesting reception from

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01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:13,799
Speaker 6: black folks. But over the past, over the past decade,

1569
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 6: it was the thing in Missouri for me. But over

1570
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 6: the past decade, I don't think I wasn't lying. I

1571
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 6: don't let me finished. I don't think that people realize

1572
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 6: how much you have helped bring black voices onto TV.

1573
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 6: Giving myself an opportunity, Angela Rian opportunity, Andrew gilliam an opportunity,

1574
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 6: Simone Sander's an opportunity. Because the way it works is

1575
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 6: the white folk at these networks they go to black

1576
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 6: folk that they know and say, are they gonna be good?

1577
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 6: Is it okay? And you put us on your show.

1578
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 6: You let us have that freedom, You let us be

1579
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 6: able to get our thoughts out. And so my call

1580
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 6: to action is to say, build relationships, value relationships, and

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01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 6: also give people their flowers while they're living.

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01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 2: And so thank you. Don I know you're getting up

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01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 2: there in age, so I just wanted to say thank you.

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01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 8: It's some distressing well, Andrew, my call to action.

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01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 7: As you all can probably imagine, my Seahawks are still

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01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 7: in the NFL playoffs and so I just want to

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01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 7: drop this song, real quick call to action to support

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01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 7: the Hawks.

1589
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 1: My born three one two three, and I'm not gonna have.

1590
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 8: A licensing issues. My friend dras song.

1591
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I about to say.

1592
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:35,640
Speaker 8: To the dark side, boy my mentality.

1593
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 2: Can we say mos we mean miss welcome to the

1594
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 2: dark side. When you see that blue and green.

1595
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 14: No, it's my tie, depending every blade of grass when

1596
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 14: we couldn't lie and seattle when it's ringing.

1597
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 3: And we outside, yeah, we outside of everybody.

1598
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 2: Outside, whole shitty going up like a sun. Times you're hungry,

1599
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 2: we can provide.

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01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 4: Some beef up front and pancakes from my own line.

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01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 2: And Murphy is that?

1602
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: I mean?

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01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 6: I got a big cat, but they allergic to the

1604
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 6: beat on the West Coast sometimes.

1605
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 4: You do something.

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01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 2: Okay, that's enough, all right, Andrew?

1607
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 8: What's your call as you're such a hater just because

1608
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 8: you don't have no.

1609
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 2: You we had the Carolina Panthers, right, we are all

1610
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 2: lemon heads. I love it, you like it, y'all.

1611
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 1: Mine is quick and easy. I just this weekend, of course,

1612
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 1: spend the time with my kids, and one of them

1613
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 1: asked me, Daddy, are we such and such and such,

1614
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 1: And I said, well, I know I am, but you

1615
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 1: will one day get to decide for yourself what you

1616
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 1: are and what you believe, what you believe in, and

1617
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 1: whether you support a thing or you don't. You know,

1618
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 1: I just encourage you to, you know, really stay honest

1619
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 1: with how you feel, and don't let your friends around you,

1620
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 1: you know, try to tell you to believe or to

1621
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 1: do a thing just because they're doing it. And I

1622
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: guess what that reminded me of is just the the

1623
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: significant importance of helping our children to very honestly think

1624
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 1: for themselves. There are things, obviously at certain ages you

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01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 1: have to be directive about. And then I think there

1626
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 1: are things and moments that just happen through the course

1627
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 1: of your exchange with your kids at dinner or in

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01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 1: the day, over the weekends, at night, whatever that might

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01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 1: cause us to possibly, instead of taking the parent assertive,

1630
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 1: this is the this, and this is that to coach

1631
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 1: them through ways to sort of think and develop for

1632
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 1: themselves some critical thinking skills that you know, I think

1633
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:55,600
Speaker 1: might be the best gift that we can give to

1634
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:59,560
Speaker 1: our children is in this world where everybody seems like

1635
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 1: sheep following one, you know, the leader, because it's the leader.

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01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 1: We need some people who are willing to say, well,

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01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: that's not what I think, that's not what I believe, uh,

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01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 1: and to feel comfortable in doing that without going along

1639
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 1: to get along.

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01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 8: That's good.

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01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 1: That's it, y'all. So you've got our directives, our admonishments,

1642
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 1: our assignments. If you will, we want to put an

1643
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 1: assignment out for you, which is keep those videos, questions,

1644
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 1: comments thoughts coming our direction, because if I'm not mistaken, y'all,

1645
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking on our mini pod about questions

1646
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 1: that we've gotten over the last couple of weeks that

1647
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 1: we haven't gotten to and we want to make sure

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01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 1: we get to those. So stay tuned for that. Don

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01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 1: As always, it's always been a pleasure because we've always

1650
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: been on your platforms coming and you know you asking

1651
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: all the questions, and I thought you were doing that

1652
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 1: a little bit here, like, well, let me get to

1653
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 1: the substance of that in the what what makes you

1654
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 1: feel this way? I felt that because you're a journalist

1655
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 1: and truth that at heart and you do a damn

1656
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 1: good job at it. We're so fortunate to have you

1657
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 1: with us on nail lampid. I hope you enjoyed it,

1658
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:07,600
Speaker 1: because we enjoyed you.

1659
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 3: I love being here. You guys know that you are

1660
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 3: my brothers and sisters. Angela you you know how I

1661
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,639
Speaker 3: feel about you. Bacari, Come on, I love your wife

1662
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:21,560
Speaker 3: more than Ellen is mine. That most people most people do,

1663
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 3: but I do have to say that I really do

1664
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,559
Speaker 3: miss you, Andrew, and I still have one. I don't

1665
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 3: know if you ever if you remember this, just to

1666
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 3: show how kind you are. We were sitting on the

1667
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 3: set in Washington, DC covering something, some craziness that happened.

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01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 2: It's probably a Trump thing, I don't know. And you

1669
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 2: had on this beautiful bracelet and I said, man, I

1670
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 2: really liked that bracelet. What is it? And you said

1671
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 2: that it was bullets? Do you remember that?

1672
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 3: And you gave me that bracelet and I do still

1673
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 3: have it to hollowed out bullets, and I still have

1674
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 3: that and I will never That just showed me just

1675
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 3: what a generous heart that you have.

1676
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 2: And so he had two of them. I said, I

1677
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 2: like it, and you're like, you can have it and

1678
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 2: I was like, thank you. He got him for free.

1679
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 2: He had two of them, so.

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01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 1: Bullocks for life. Check it out in Miami. Uh, and

1681
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: you'll learn all about it. Don I do remember that,

1682
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 1: I remember it well. We asked some other conversations too.

1683
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 1: We won't just mention those here though. No.

1684
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 7: Well, I am so grateful that you came on, Don,

1685
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:20,560
Speaker 7: and we are, you know, rooting for you absolutely and

1686
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 7: Bakari and I'm signing him up even though he can

1687
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 7: be a little greedy. We are here as pro bono

1688
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 7: council for you if you need support on this non.

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01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 6: Already I already called him. I don't know what pro

1690
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 6: bono means, but I already called him.

1691
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 2: He said, you know, I got you, and I said

1692
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 2: pro bono and he goes, what language is that? I'm glad?

1693
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 1: Oh lord, I thank you.

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01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 2: Continued success. Okay, welcome home, welcome home, come home, Thank you,

1695
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1696
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 1: That was a full episode, y'all, And thank you to

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01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:54,480
Speaker 1: our listeners as always for listening, for supporting, for subscribing,

1698
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 1: for sharing. Please please, please can do you do to

1699
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 1: do all those things? Also, don't don't forget to please

1700
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 1: send your questions in. We want to hear from you.

1701
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 1: In fact, we want to hear from you so bad.

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Speaker 1: We are all three of us committed to making Fridays

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Speaker 1: We are angela Ride but Carvey Sellers and Yes I'm

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Speaker 1: mad you gillhim and Don Lemon said.

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Speaker 4: He out of you.

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Speaker 1: Welcome home. There are two hundred and ninety one days

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Speaker 1: until midterm elections. They can come quick enough.

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Speaker 2: Sixty minutes or so hit not too long for the.

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Speaker 14: Great shit, high level combo politics in a way that

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01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 14: you could taste it then digest it. Politics touches you

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01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 14: even if you don't touch it. So get invested. Across

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01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 14: the t's and doctor I kill them, got them ass

1731
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Speaker 14: sellers staying on business or ride. You could have been anywhere,

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Speaker 14: but you trust us. Native land Pod is the prayer.

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