1 00:00:06,413 --> 00:00:08,933 Speaker 1: NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is 2 00:00:08,933 --> 00:00:11,893 Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. 3 00:00:20,653 --> 00:00:24,133 Speaker 2: Welcome into a new edition of NFL Cover Zero. Drew 4 00:00:24,172 --> 00:00:27,413 Speaker 2: Franklin here with Billy Rutledge, as we keep bringing you 5 00:00:27,453 --> 00:00:30,133 Speaker 2: more from our trip to San Francisco for the Super Bowl. 6 00:00:30,253 --> 00:00:32,533 Speaker 2: We did a ton of interviews out there. We are 7 00:00:32,573 --> 00:00:34,852 Speaker 2: just trickling out releases of each one as the off 8 00:00:34,933 --> 00:00:38,773 Speaker 2: season goes on. Billy, and today we're excited about another one. 9 00:00:39,133 --> 00:00:42,053 Speaker 2: Denzel Award from the Cleveland Browns cornerback. We got a 10 00:00:42,093 --> 00:00:44,053 Speaker 2: chance to talk with him on our last day out 11 00:00:44,093 --> 00:00:45,173 Speaker 2: there in San Francisco. 12 00:00:45,573 --> 00:00:46,093 Speaker 3: I can't remember. 13 00:00:46,173 --> 00:00:47,813 Speaker 2: Is he one of the people that were picking on 14 00:00:47,853 --> 00:00:49,853 Speaker 2: your quarters, Zip or was he one that played it 15 00:00:49,853 --> 00:00:50,373 Speaker 2: pretty cool? 16 00:00:50,493 --> 00:00:52,093 Speaker 4: He was the one that was a little bit nicer 17 00:00:52,133 --> 00:00:54,173 Speaker 4: than most. Okay, he was the one that had diamonds 18 00:00:54,253 --> 00:00:57,093 Speaker 4: in his hair, so he was very fashionable. But you know, 19 00:00:57,173 --> 00:00:59,573 Speaker 4: didn't throw me under the bus like Green Bay Packers 20 00:00:59,653 --> 00:01:02,693 Speaker 4: wide receivers did that week. I do like how we're 21 00:01:02,733 --> 00:01:05,253 Speaker 4: just continuing to live through that Super Bowl week and 22 00:01:05,413 --> 00:01:09,413 Speaker 4: get as much as possible. But Denzel was, I mean 23 00:01:09,453 --> 00:01:11,973 Speaker 4: a high rated draft pick and a really good class 24 00:01:12,012 --> 00:01:14,292 Speaker 4: in twenty eighteen with all those quarterbacks, and he's been 25 00:01:14,533 --> 00:01:16,053 Speaker 4: pretty good for the Browns lately, and it. 26 00:01:16,092 --> 00:01:17,773 Speaker 2: Was a great interview. We're excited to bring that for 27 00:01:17,853 --> 00:01:19,853 Speaker 2: you coming up. It is almost April and we're still 28 00:01:19,853 --> 00:01:22,173 Speaker 2: bringing you things from that trip. That's how awesome the 29 00:01:22,212 --> 00:01:24,372 Speaker 2: trip was. But we're not done there. We'll have more 30 00:01:24,413 --> 00:01:26,252 Speaker 2: with Eric hendricks On down the road. We got other 31 00:01:26,333 --> 00:01:28,653 Speaker 2: interviews coming, but for today, we're setting up the one 32 00:01:28,693 --> 00:01:31,172 Speaker 2: with Denzel Ward. I loved hearing about just behind the 33 00:01:31,212 --> 00:01:33,732 Speaker 2: scenes of the Cleveland Browns. You know, they've gone through 34 00:01:33,732 --> 00:01:36,413 Speaker 2: a few coaches, they've gone through a few quarterbacks. And 35 00:01:36,452 --> 00:01:38,853 Speaker 2: what I found most fascinating in the interview is what 36 00:01:38,893 --> 00:01:42,373 Speaker 2: it's like sharing a locker room with a monster named 37 00:01:42,372 --> 00:01:42,932 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett. 38 00:01:43,092 --> 00:01:44,853 Speaker 3: Yeah, broke the sack record this year. 39 00:01:45,012 --> 00:01:47,413 Speaker 4: I mean, the guy is just a beast of a 40 00:01:47,493 --> 00:01:49,733 Speaker 4: human being when it comes to how big he is, true, 41 00:01:49,773 --> 00:01:51,973 Speaker 4: I mean, can you imagine standing next to somebody like that, 42 00:01:52,053 --> 00:01:53,173 Speaker 4: You'd look like a dwarf. 43 00:01:53,333 --> 00:01:55,333 Speaker 2: Absolutely, we had fun hearing from him about what it's 44 00:01:55,373 --> 00:01:57,293 Speaker 2: like playing with Miles Garrett on the same side of 45 00:01:57,333 --> 00:02:00,133 Speaker 2: the ball. Lots of good conversations with Denzel Ward. But 46 00:02:00,173 --> 00:02:02,453 Speaker 2: before we throw to that Billy There's It has been 47 00:02:02,493 --> 00:02:04,333 Speaker 2: a busy offseason. I mean we had a bunch of 48 00:02:04,333 --> 00:02:08,173 Speaker 2: free agency signings we talked about last week. I haven't 49 00:02:08,253 --> 00:02:12,053 Speaker 2: checked in on the latest on Donna Kelce's renovation. Maybe 50 00:02:12,053 --> 00:02:13,933 Speaker 2: we're putting a new scance in the bathroom. I don't 51 00:02:13,933 --> 00:02:16,413 Speaker 2: know where we are on that. That's been a big topic. 52 00:02:16,893 --> 00:02:18,613 Speaker 2: A few news points today I wrote down that we 53 00:02:18,613 --> 00:02:20,573 Speaker 2: could run through and maybe you could add to them. 54 00:02:20,573 --> 00:02:22,973 Speaker 2: But you know, there's been some wild stuff going on, 55 00:02:23,333 --> 00:02:26,213 Speaker 2: including I think we need to start with a name 56 00:02:26,253 --> 00:02:28,253 Speaker 2: that we all kind of fell in love with last year, 57 00:02:29,373 --> 00:02:33,653 Speaker 2: coming back, Joe Flacco at age forty one, once more football. 58 00:02:33,893 --> 00:02:36,533 Speaker 2: I thought last year was going to be Flacco's last ride. 59 00:02:36,533 --> 00:02:38,573 Speaker 2: It was already crazy. He's out there with a gray 60 00:02:38,653 --> 00:02:40,973 Speaker 2: beard and winning games for the Bengals, and you know 61 00:02:41,013 --> 00:02:42,813 Speaker 2: what he said, I want to run it back one 62 00:02:42,893 --> 00:02:43,333 Speaker 2: more time. 63 00:02:43,453 --> 00:02:44,453 Speaker 3: At least one more time. 64 00:02:44,493 --> 00:02:47,773 Speaker 2: We'll see, But Cincinnati, you're getting more Flacco behind Burrow. 65 00:02:48,173 --> 00:02:50,253 Speaker 4: Last season seemed too good to be true, didn't it. 66 00:02:50,333 --> 00:02:52,533 Speaker 4: Like he came in didn't even know the playbook. He's 67 00:02:52,533 --> 00:02:54,853 Speaker 4: telling receivers to just go straight and then left and 68 00:02:54,933 --> 00:02:56,653 Speaker 4: he's going to throw it to him and then he 69 00:02:56,693 --> 00:02:59,333 Speaker 4: was really good, Like Cincinnati did pretty well with him. 70 00:02:59,373 --> 00:03:01,493 Speaker 3: So that seemed like such a magical story. 71 00:03:01,533 --> 00:03:03,533 Speaker 4: I don't know if there's enough magic to repeat that 72 00:03:03,613 --> 00:03:05,693 Speaker 4: for old man Flacco, but I guess he's given all 73 00:03:05,733 --> 00:03:07,653 Speaker 4: the older guys hope coming back, right. 74 00:03:07,773 --> 00:03:09,773 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's a good look for Cincinnati. That's an 75 00:03:09,853 --> 00:03:12,573 Speaker 2: organization that's been criticized a little bit for maybe some 76 00:03:12,613 --> 00:03:14,733 Speaker 2: things behind the scenes how they run it, maybe not 77 00:03:14,813 --> 00:03:17,533 Speaker 2: the top of the line in luxury, behind the scenes. 78 00:03:17,573 --> 00:03:19,733 Speaker 2: But Flacco the reason he's coming back, he said, I 79 00:03:19,773 --> 00:03:21,773 Speaker 2: love the building, I love the franchise. He wants to 80 00:03:21,773 --> 00:03:23,773 Speaker 2: be a part of it another year. So good for 81 00:03:23,813 --> 00:03:26,293 Speaker 2: the Bengals. That says a lot about them. And you know, 82 00:03:26,653 --> 00:03:29,573 Speaker 2: sitting behind Joe Burrow and throwing to Jamar Chase if 83 00:03:29,613 --> 00:03:32,173 Speaker 2: you're called upon, here's probably a fun gig as you're 84 00:03:32,413 --> 00:03:33,533 Speaker 2: winding down your career. 85 00:03:33,653 --> 00:03:35,813 Speaker 4: Yeah, that'd be a fun quarterback room, wouldn't it. I mean, 86 00:03:35,973 --> 00:03:38,773 Speaker 4: Joe and Joe. You got to think that the a 87 00:03:38,813 --> 00:03:41,293 Speaker 4: Hall of Famer, a future Hall of Famer. You put 88 00:03:41,373 --> 00:03:42,973 Speaker 4: Joe Flack on the Hall of Fame, right, Drew I mean, 89 00:03:42,973 --> 00:03:45,373 Speaker 4: he's a Super Bowl winning quarterback. Got to guy, heck, 90 00:03:45,413 --> 00:03:47,133 Speaker 4: he might be playing another ten years too. We don't 91 00:03:47,133 --> 00:03:48,773 Speaker 4: know what's next for him, or maybe he just he's 92 00:03:48,773 --> 00:03:51,533 Speaker 4: into fossils and swords like Burrow and they've got a 93 00:03:51,533 --> 00:03:55,213 Speaker 4: little buddy system going on in the QB rooms. Of 94 00:03:55,253 --> 00:03:57,093 Speaker 4: all the things that have come out from the NFL, 95 00:03:57,213 --> 00:03:59,933 Speaker 4: that maybe surprised me the most. I didn't even consider 96 00:03:59,973 --> 00:04:02,853 Speaker 4: a Joe Flecco comeback. Well, you know, Todd Monkin with 97 00:04:03,053 --> 00:04:05,693 Speaker 4: former offensive coordinator for the Ravens. Maybe there was a 98 00:04:05,733 --> 00:04:08,693 Speaker 4: history there when Jee was back with Baltimore. Who knows, 99 00:04:09,373 --> 00:04:11,813 Speaker 4: but should be interesting in that division this year with 100 00:04:11,853 --> 00:04:13,293 Speaker 4: all the new head coaches there. 101 00:04:13,453 --> 00:04:15,933 Speaker 2: And one more quarterback news I wanted to get. It's 102 00:04:15,973 --> 00:04:19,133 Speaker 2: more college, but it is an NFL name. Did you 103 00:04:19,173 --> 00:04:22,013 Speaker 2: see Matt Leonard in USC what they were going through this? 104 00:04:22,212 --> 00:04:23,853 Speaker 2: I did see this, So another one I wanted to 105 00:04:23,892 --> 00:04:26,292 Speaker 2: make sure we talk about. Matt Lionard's number eleven is 106 00:04:26,332 --> 00:04:30,892 Speaker 2: retired in LA. You know, great career obviously, Reggie Bush 107 00:04:30,972 --> 00:04:32,893 Speaker 2: probably the best they've ever been. Pete Carroll, we all 108 00:04:32,892 --> 00:04:35,893 Speaker 2: know the story. But his jersey's retired number eleven, as 109 00:04:35,892 --> 00:04:38,972 Speaker 2: it should be and I guess this week coach Rowley 110 00:04:39,053 --> 00:04:41,013 Speaker 2: was like, hey, we got a recruit he wants to 111 00:04:41,053 --> 00:04:43,892 Speaker 2: wear number eleven. Hey, Matt, I think maybe we can 112 00:04:43,972 --> 00:04:46,213 Speaker 2: unretire a little bit. And he basically was like, hell, no, 113 00:04:46,332 --> 00:04:48,493 Speaker 2: you can't. We'll leave that up there forever. I'm not 114 00:04:48,573 --> 00:04:50,373 Speaker 2: just gonna give it away to some kid I don't 115 00:04:50,412 --> 00:04:52,732 Speaker 2: know and who could transfer a year from now. So 116 00:04:52,853 --> 00:04:54,772 Speaker 2: I thought it was more and how firm he was 117 00:04:54,813 --> 00:04:56,652 Speaker 2: in saying he wasn't giving it up. But I thought 118 00:04:56,652 --> 00:04:58,892 Speaker 2: that was interesting of the alum that you know, could 119 00:04:58,892 --> 00:05:01,573 Speaker 2: maybe throw the University of Bone in recruiting by letting 120 00:05:01,573 --> 00:05:04,812 Speaker 2: somebody wear number eleven. Leonard said, no, nay, myle eleven 121 00:05:04,933 --> 00:05:06,652 Speaker 2: is staying sacred and won't be worn again. 122 00:05:06,772 --> 00:05:09,573 Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean, if you're just gonna unretire the 123 00:05:09,613 --> 00:05:13,013 Speaker 4: greats numbers because every five star wants to wear it, 124 00:05:13,013 --> 00:05:15,972 Speaker 4: it loses its significance, right. I mean that number eleven 125 00:05:16,053 --> 00:05:19,813 Speaker 4: Jersey for USC should be remembered as Matt Liners, the 126 00:05:19,892 --> 00:05:23,973 Speaker 4: lefty quarterback winning national championships. So I mean I would 127 00:05:24,013 --> 00:05:27,093 Speaker 4: understand like the Yankees where they don't have a single 128 00:05:27,452 --> 00:05:30,253 Speaker 4: single digit available because they've retired so many. 129 00:05:30,332 --> 00:05:33,133 Speaker 3: But I mean, come on, you gotta keep the history there. 130 00:05:33,092 --> 00:05:35,732 Speaker 2: Right, he said that kid, Probably chance of him staying 131 00:05:35,772 --> 00:05:38,772 Speaker 2: at USC after two years is slim anyway, So it 132 00:05:38,772 --> 00:05:41,613 Speaker 2: ain't happening. Bro, I'm keeping mine up there forever. You 133 00:05:41,613 --> 00:05:43,972 Speaker 2: can call me selfish. I don't give a bleep. 134 00:05:44,733 --> 00:05:47,173 Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know it was that strong from that 135 00:05:47,253 --> 00:05:47,772 Speaker 3: far off. 136 00:05:48,772 --> 00:05:51,372 Speaker 4: A quick Google search tells me that our one hundred 137 00:05:51,373 --> 00:05:54,853 Speaker 4: and sixty three players have had their jersey's numbers retired, 138 00:05:54,892 --> 00:05:57,493 Speaker 4: and the Bears and Giants both have fourteen numbers each. 139 00:05:57,892 --> 00:05:58,493 Speaker 3: I understand. 140 00:05:58,493 --> 00:06:00,213 Speaker 2: You get to a point where it's like, hey man, 141 00:06:00,613 --> 00:06:02,292 Speaker 2: we've had a lot of greats, but we do need 142 00:06:02,332 --> 00:06:06,013 Speaker 2: some available numbers for our future. I get that clearly. 143 00:06:06,373 --> 00:06:09,452 Speaker 2: Matt Liner's staying firm and leaving his retired at USC. 144 00:06:09,813 --> 00:06:14,732 Speaker 2: Let's say Billy Rutledge was just a football sensation Western Kentucky. 145 00:06:14,772 --> 00:06:17,373 Speaker 2: We'll say you're you're alma mater. Let's say you're their 146 00:06:17,373 --> 00:06:20,013 Speaker 2: all time leading passer and you led them back to 147 00:06:20,013 --> 00:06:22,612 Speaker 2: back Music City Bulls and your number, what number would 148 00:06:22,613 --> 00:06:22,853 Speaker 2: you have. 149 00:06:22,813 --> 00:06:25,293 Speaker 4: Been, oh man, back in the day, I think I 150 00:06:25,373 --> 00:06:27,133 Speaker 4: was seven, Drew, I was lucky number seven. 151 00:06:27,212 --> 00:06:29,933 Speaker 2: Billy's number seven is up there in the stadium and 152 00:06:29,972 --> 00:06:32,292 Speaker 2: they come to you twenty years later, Hey, Billy, we 153 00:06:32,332 --> 00:06:34,973 Speaker 2: got this recruit. We need him bad, and it seems 154 00:06:35,013 --> 00:06:36,893 Speaker 2: like not being able to wear the number seven is 155 00:06:36,933 --> 00:06:38,212 Speaker 2: a deal breaker in recruitment. 156 00:06:38,493 --> 00:06:40,133 Speaker 5: Can you can you throw us a bone and. 157 00:06:40,133 --> 00:06:42,293 Speaker 2: Let us pull that down from the from the from 158 00:06:42,332 --> 00:06:44,492 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame and let him wear it? 159 00:06:44,493 --> 00:06:45,973 Speaker 3: Are you are you budging? Are you more? 160 00:06:46,013 --> 00:06:46,573 Speaker 5: Matt Liner? 161 00:06:46,652 --> 00:06:49,492 Speaker 4: Well, the Music City Bulls didn't weren't very profitable for 162 00:06:49,573 --> 00:06:52,053 Speaker 4: me before NIL existed, and I didn't really turn it 163 00:06:52,092 --> 00:06:53,892 Speaker 4: into an NFL career. So I need the money. So 164 00:06:53,892 --> 00:06:56,212 Speaker 4: are you gonna pay me to un retire my jersey? 165 00:06:56,253 --> 00:06:59,532 Speaker 4: Because you might have my attention as a failed professional athlete. 166 00:06:59,573 --> 00:07:02,693 Speaker 4: But Matt Liner, who's on TV and things like that, 167 00:07:02,772 --> 00:07:04,412 Speaker 4: I mean, he's got a legacy to live up to, 168 00:07:04,532 --> 00:07:07,373 Speaker 4: So I think I'm taking the money. But at the 169 00:07:07,373 --> 00:07:09,692 Speaker 4: same time, I could see why Matt's standing strong. 170 00:07:09,813 --> 00:07:12,413 Speaker 2: You know, the story says Carson Palmer gave up his 171 00:07:12,533 --> 00:07:15,172 Speaker 2: number three for Jordan Edison who went to USC So 172 00:07:15,253 --> 00:07:17,333 Speaker 2: there's been president there, but Matt Liner, it's not not 173 00:07:17,453 --> 00:07:18,013 Speaker 2: giving it up. 174 00:07:18,253 --> 00:07:20,773 Speaker 3: I would probably be selfish. 175 00:07:20,373 --> 00:07:20,973 Speaker 5: Like Matt Liner. 176 00:07:21,293 --> 00:07:23,813 Speaker 3: You would listen, that's my number. Yeah, you put it 177 00:07:23,893 --> 00:07:25,773 Speaker 3: up there for a reason. We retired. It's going to 178 00:07:25,813 --> 00:07:26,373 Speaker 3: stay retired. 179 00:07:26,453 --> 00:07:28,293 Speaker 4: And what's to say the kid's not going to transfer 180 00:07:28,653 --> 00:07:30,813 Speaker 4: one year later in today's. 181 00:07:30,333 --> 00:07:33,653 Speaker 2: Climate, or if he plays and he's just awful, then 182 00:07:33,653 --> 00:07:38,492 Speaker 2: you yes, you've stayed my jersey. So I thought he 183 00:07:38,573 --> 00:07:40,613 Speaker 2: was a little too firm and saying I don't give. 184 00:07:40,493 --> 00:07:42,973 Speaker 5: A bank, but I get what he was going for. 185 00:07:43,253 --> 00:07:45,933 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, hopefully maybe Matt Liner's son will come up 186 00:07:45,933 --> 00:07:47,453 Speaker 4: and maybe he'll unretire it for dead. 187 00:07:47,773 --> 00:07:49,732 Speaker 2: We do have some concerns before we get to the 188 00:07:49,733 --> 00:07:50,653 Speaker 2: Denzel Ward interview. 189 00:07:50,693 --> 00:07:51,013 Speaker 3: What's that? 190 00:07:51,733 --> 00:07:53,693 Speaker 2: I'm worried. You know, we're excited to keep this cover 191 00:07:53,813 --> 00:07:56,292 Speaker 2: zero thing going. Our first year was so great. I 192 00:07:56,293 --> 00:07:58,373 Speaker 2: mean we're still, as I said, we're still talking about 193 00:07:58,373 --> 00:08:00,933 Speaker 2: the Super both been over. It's been almost two months 194 00:08:00,973 --> 00:08:03,493 Speaker 2: and we're still riding high. But I think we might 195 00:08:03,533 --> 00:08:07,813 Speaker 2: have competition next year we do another podcast. Mike Tomlin 196 00:08:08,253 --> 00:08:09,492 Speaker 2: has hired media agents. 197 00:08:10,053 --> 00:08:10,933 Speaker 3: He's not going away. 198 00:08:11,013 --> 00:08:11,453 Speaker 5: Quietly. 199 00:08:11,653 --> 00:08:14,493 Speaker 2: I didn't have Mike Tomlin as a guy we'd see 200 00:08:14,493 --> 00:08:17,133 Speaker 2: on the set before any of these games, But it 201 00:08:17,173 --> 00:08:19,852 Speaker 2: looks like things are lining up for the h and 202 00:08:20,053 --> 00:08:21,453 Speaker 2: you know, he doesn't even want to be retired at all. 203 00:08:21,373 --> 00:08:22,893 Speaker 2: He wants to get right back to work. It's looking 204 00:08:22,973 --> 00:08:24,973 Speaker 2: like Mike Tomlin might be trying to do our job. 205 00:08:25,133 --> 00:08:27,493 Speaker 4: Maybe a little gap year for him as he waits 206 00:08:27,573 --> 00:08:30,373 Speaker 4: one year before he probably takes another coaching job. As 207 00:08:30,413 --> 00:08:32,773 Speaker 4: many would expect. You think he's going to be making 208 00:08:32,773 --> 00:08:35,573 Speaker 4: the circuit soon, doing the pregame shows and things like that. 209 00:08:35,693 --> 00:08:37,493 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know that he's going to just 210 00:08:37,533 --> 00:08:39,613 Speaker 2: push us out of the way and take over Cover zero, 211 00:08:40,093 --> 00:08:41,852 Speaker 2: but it is looking like things are lining up or 212 00:08:41,893 --> 00:08:44,213 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin will be part of all the big the experience, 213 00:08:44,373 --> 00:08:46,493 Speaker 2: the conversations before and after. I mean, there's a million 214 00:08:46,493 --> 00:08:47,613 Speaker 2: networks that cover the NFL. 215 00:08:47,613 --> 00:08:47,733 Speaker 5: Now. 216 00:08:47,733 --> 00:08:50,093 Speaker 2: I don't know which direction he's lean leaning, but for 217 00:08:50,133 --> 00:08:52,253 Speaker 2: a guy that kind of had that stoic look on 218 00:08:52,293 --> 00:08:55,573 Speaker 2: the sideline all the time, doesn't seem that outgoing, Well surprise, 219 00:08:55,653 --> 00:08:57,493 Speaker 2: he might be dipping a toe into media right away. 220 00:08:57,573 --> 00:08:59,653 Speaker 4: Well, if he becomes a part of the NFL family, 221 00:08:59,693 --> 00:09:01,613 Speaker 4: I will reach out, We'll have him on the show. 222 00:09:01,773 --> 00:09:05,093 Speaker 4: I mean, we already had Brown Spider and First Lady 223 00:09:05,173 --> 00:09:08,413 Speaker 4: on Reach Flame after their parking lot wedding at the 224 00:09:08,413 --> 00:09:11,333 Speaker 4: Browns tailgate earlier this year, so why not have Mike 225 00:09:11,373 --> 00:09:12,693 Speaker 4: Tom went on, and you know. 226 00:09:12,613 --> 00:09:13,453 Speaker 3: He's a former Buck. 227 00:09:13,453 --> 00:09:15,413 Speaker 4: He was on those teams back in two and the 228 00:09:16,213 --> 00:09:19,333 Speaker 4: good defenses. John Gruden went in Super Bowls, so I'd 229 00:09:19,333 --> 00:09:21,293 Speaker 4: have a lot to talk to him about. But he's 230 00:09:21,333 --> 00:09:22,933 Speaker 4: going to take a year off and do the media thing. 231 00:09:22,933 --> 00:09:23,413 Speaker 3: It sounds like. 232 00:09:23,413 --> 00:09:25,573 Speaker 2: Completely forgot about the Bucks connection. And this wasn't on 233 00:09:25,613 --> 00:09:27,973 Speaker 2: my list. But I saw is that Levonte David they 234 00:09:27,973 --> 00:09:31,413 Speaker 2: were tired. Oh yeah, My goodness. For everyone that hasn't 235 00:09:31,413 --> 00:09:34,573 Speaker 2: seen it. His retirement press conference, he starts talking about 236 00:09:34,573 --> 00:09:37,173 Speaker 2: his parents. They both passed away. I think most of 237 00:09:37,293 --> 00:09:39,573 Speaker 2: the most recent was just a few years ago, and 238 00:09:39,613 --> 00:09:42,333 Speaker 2: he's going on about all the sacrifices. 239 00:09:41,693 --> 00:09:42,453 Speaker 5: They made for him. 240 00:09:42,773 --> 00:09:44,973 Speaker 2: I believe he's from Miami growing up to the point 241 00:09:45,053 --> 00:09:47,773 Speaker 2: they had one family car and mom would take it 242 00:09:47,773 --> 00:09:50,573 Speaker 2: to work and he rode on his dad's handlebars on 243 00:09:50,693 --> 00:09:54,373 Speaker 2: his bike to get to practice and he is just bawling, 244 00:09:54,453 --> 00:09:56,213 Speaker 2: and I completely understand it. I admit I got a 245 00:09:56,253 --> 00:09:58,693 Speaker 2: little emotional watching him. So as a Bucks guy, tell 246 00:09:58,693 --> 00:10:01,533 Speaker 2: me more about Levonte David, and clearly that's a dude 247 00:10:01,573 --> 00:10:04,533 Speaker 2: that highly respected The response to that was big. 248 00:10:04,333 --> 00:10:05,973 Speaker 5: But a big emotional moment for him. 249 00:10:05,853 --> 00:10:08,733 Speaker 2: As he retires after several years in Tampa. 250 00:10:08,813 --> 00:10:10,933 Speaker 4: For Mike Evans to leave for San Francisco and then 251 00:10:11,013 --> 00:10:13,653 Speaker 4: Levonte David to retire, I mean, the team will be 252 00:10:13,653 --> 00:10:15,733 Speaker 4: a shell of itself than what it has been over 253 00:10:15,733 --> 00:10:18,893 Speaker 4: the last ten fourteen years that Lavonte has been a Buck. 254 00:10:19,293 --> 00:10:20,933 Speaker 4: You don't see a lot of players stay with one 255 00:10:20,973 --> 00:10:23,293 Speaker 4: team for the entire time, so he did really mean 256 00:10:23,333 --> 00:10:26,373 Speaker 4: a lot. And he talked about seeing the paper bags 257 00:10:26,493 --> 00:10:28,773 Speaker 4: in the stands when the lost decade of the Bucks, 258 00:10:28,773 --> 00:10:30,893 Speaker 4: when they were pretty bad, like Greg Ciano years and 259 00:10:30,933 --> 00:10:33,453 Speaker 4: things like that, and that's what motivated him to get 260 00:10:33,453 --> 00:10:35,173 Speaker 4: them back to the top. And you know he was 261 00:10:35,213 --> 00:10:37,413 Speaker 4: able to win a Super Bowl with Tom Brady. That's 262 00:10:37,413 --> 00:10:39,573 Speaker 4: a guy that embodies his community and has been a 263 00:10:40,133 --> 00:10:40,973 Speaker 4: really good player. 264 00:10:41,013 --> 00:10:42,613 Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's a first ballot Hall of 265 00:10:42,653 --> 00:10:43,053 Speaker 3: Famer Drew. 266 00:10:43,093 --> 00:10:44,813 Speaker 4: I'm a little biased, but this is a guy that 267 00:10:44,853 --> 00:10:48,173 Speaker 4: he's compared to Luke Keikley with the modern linebacker one 268 00:10:48,213 --> 00:10:51,813 Speaker 4: of the best. And you're right, man, that story about 269 00:10:52,573 --> 00:10:55,173 Speaker 4: both of his parents have passed, but like talking about 270 00:10:55,453 --> 00:10:58,013 Speaker 4: riding on the handle parts in practice, just. 271 00:10:57,973 --> 00:11:00,373 Speaker 2: The sacrifices his family made for him to go on 272 00:11:00,413 --> 00:11:02,973 Speaker 2: and have the career he did, and then just watching 273 00:11:03,053 --> 00:11:05,053 Speaker 2: him be emotional. I think it touched a lot of people. 274 00:11:05,173 --> 00:11:06,613 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you about that. I'm not as 275 00:11:06,773 --> 00:11:10,373 Speaker 2: ingrained in the bucks as you are, but David moment, Yes, 276 00:11:10,733 --> 00:11:12,733 Speaker 2: of course, Uh, he's going away. 277 00:11:12,733 --> 00:11:14,253 Speaker 5: But one thing that's not going away. 278 00:11:14,453 --> 00:11:16,453 Speaker 2: Did you see the toush push will be coming back. 279 00:11:16,533 --> 00:11:17,653 Speaker 3: Yes. They don't want to hear about it. 280 00:11:17,813 --> 00:11:18,933 Speaker 5: We're going to talk about it. 281 00:11:19,133 --> 00:11:20,493 Speaker 2: We're not going to meet him about it. We're not 282 00:11:20,493 --> 00:11:22,253 Speaker 2: going to debate it. Y'all shut up if you don't 283 00:11:22,293 --> 00:11:23,893 Speaker 2: like it. The toush push is here to stay. 284 00:11:24,213 --> 00:11:27,013 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it feels like that's kind of the natural 285 00:11:27,373 --> 00:11:29,893 Speaker 4: thing that was going to happen after a year of 286 00:11:29,933 --> 00:11:32,533 Speaker 4: complaining about it, and it kind of got stopped though 287 00:11:32,533 --> 00:11:35,173 Speaker 4: a few times it wasn't as effective, But it's just 288 00:11:35,813 --> 00:11:37,253 Speaker 4: it's not pleasing to the eye. 289 00:11:37,453 --> 00:11:37,613 Speaker 6: Right. 290 00:11:37,653 --> 00:11:38,813 Speaker 3: It feels like a different sport. 291 00:11:38,813 --> 00:11:42,333 Speaker 4: It's like we're playing rugby for one play and it 292 00:11:42,413 --> 00:11:44,333 Speaker 4: kind of takes away from the goal line moments. But 293 00:11:44,973 --> 00:11:46,373 Speaker 4: you know, I think it has a lot to do 294 00:11:46,453 --> 00:11:48,293 Speaker 4: with the owners, and I guess they didn't want to 295 00:11:48,373 --> 00:11:49,213 Speaker 4: vote on it here, and. 296 00:11:49,253 --> 00:11:51,213 Speaker 2: Last year we saw some teams get creative and trying 297 00:11:51,213 --> 00:11:53,053 Speaker 2: to stop it. We'll probably just see more of that 298 00:11:53,133 --> 00:11:55,213 Speaker 2: next year worked a little bit, as you said, the 299 00:11:55,733 --> 00:11:59,613 Speaker 2: the percentage of success went down quite a bit, but 300 00:11:59,613 --> 00:12:00,973 Speaker 2: it's not going anywhere, and they don't want to hear 301 00:12:01,013 --> 00:12:02,133 Speaker 2: about it, not even gonna. 302 00:12:01,973 --> 00:12:03,813 Speaker 3: Not even gonna debate it in the league offices. 303 00:12:04,013 --> 00:12:06,693 Speaker 4: Well, you know, the UFL is still arting soon, and 304 00:12:06,733 --> 00:12:08,213 Speaker 4: I guess they have a lot of rules that they're 305 00:12:08,253 --> 00:12:10,213 Speaker 4: trying to implement that maybe you could see in the 306 00:12:10,293 --> 00:12:12,613 Speaker 4: NFL and the future. And so they don't have tush 307 00:12:12,653 --> 00:12:15,693 Speaker 4: pushes and you can't punt after the fifty yard line. 308 00:12:15,733 --> 00:12:16,773 Speaker 4: I kind of like that one, Drew. 309 00:12:16,853 --> 00:12:18,413 Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of like that too. That almost seems 310 00:12:18,413 --> 00:12:20,613 Speaker 2: like some video game stuff they're going to work in maybe. Well, 311 00:12:20,653 --> 00:12:22,093 Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll get to talk about that more as 312 00:12:22,093 --> 00:12:23,653 Speaker 2: they get more into it, but that's been rumored to 313 00:12:23,733 --> 00:12:24,933 Speaker 2: something that could be popping up soon. 314 00:12:25,133 --> 00:12:28,053 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I mean, cowardly punting on the other side 315 00:12:28,053 --> 00:12:30,213 Speaker 3: of the fifty. Please, let's let's go for it here. 316 00:12:30,213 --> 00:12:33,053 Speaker 3: We're just gonna have NFL blitz rules soon. Go for 317 00:12:33,133 --> 00:12:34,213 Speaker 3: it on fourth and twenty. 318 00:12:34,613 --> 00:12:37,293 Speaker 2: You know they're gonna make it as wild as possible, 319 00:12:37,373 --> 00:12:38,213 Speaker 2: start doing things like that. 320 00:12:38,253 --> 00:12:39,893 Speaker 3: I would love it. Yeah, And I know the league. 321 00:12:39,933 --> 00:12:41,653 Speaker 2: I mentioned the League offices that they didn't talk about 322 00:12:41,693 --> 00:12:43,213 Speaker 2: the Tush push, and I know they're listening to covers 323 00:12:43,253 --> 00:12:45,493 Speaker 2: Europe right now. Sure, So to everyone in the League offices, 324 00:12:45,533 --> 00:12:46,933 Speaker 2: we love you and we want to let you know that. 325 00:12:46,973 --> 00:12:51,133 Speaker 2: Coming up denzil Ward from the Cleveland Browns next Ohio 326 00:12:51,133 --> 00:12:54,093 Speaker 2: State Legend. Great conversation about the changes that have happened 327 00:12:54,133 --> 00:12:57,493 Speaker 2: in Cleveland, even better conversation about what it's like just 328 00:12:57,573 --> 00:13:01,533 Speaker 2: even playing near mild Skirt, the most superhuman person in 329 00:13:01,573 --> 00:13:02,133 Speaker 2: the NFL. 330 00:13:02,373 --> 00:13:04,053 Speaker 3: So we've got that coming up for you. Now check 331 00:13:04,093 --> 00:13:04,373 Speaker 3: it out. 332 00:13:04,653 --> 00:13:07,013 Speaker 2: Denzel Ward will be back next week with more from 333 00:13:07,013 --> 00:13:08,973 Speaker 2: our trip to San Francisco. I know it feels like 334 00:13:09,013 --> 00:13:11,573 Speaker 2: forever ago, but to us that will live in our brains. 335 00:13:11,293 --> 00:13:17,333 Speaker 6: Forever all Right. 336 00:13:17,373 --> 00:13:20,253 Speaker 1: Of all the players we've had here, I'm not sure 337 00:13:20,253 --> 00:13:23,693 Speaker 1: we got one with more sort of star power the 338 00:13:23,813 --> 00:13:30,013 Speaker 1: Dinzel Ward. The whole fit here is immaculate. Even in 339 00:13:30,053 --> 00:13:31,773 Speaker 1: the hair. You've got the diamond. 340 00:13:31,893 --> 00:13:34,013 Speaker 3: You got see the detail, A few details, and that. 341 00:13:34,093 --> 00:13:35,933 Speaker 6: Is detail how long does it take to play? 342 00:13:35,973 --> 00:13:39,013 Speaker 1: You didn't just throw that on all this whole, This 343 00:13:39,093 --> 00:13:40,813 Speaker 1: whole looks you. 344 00:13:40,773 --> 00:13:42,613 Speaker 7: Know, it takes a little time. But you know, I 345 00:13:42,653 --> 00:13:45,333 Speaker 7: get some help from from my style. My girlfriend's my solace, 346 00:13:45,413 --> 00:13:46,613 Speaker 7: so she held style. 347 00:13:46,773 --> 00:13:48,013 Speaker 8: So it's not just the problem. 348 00:13:48,013 --> 00:13:48,213 Speaker 3: Though. 349 00:13:48,493 --> 00:13:52,453 Speaker 1: You can't break up because then everything's gonna get worse. 350 00:13:52,693 --> 00:13:55,693 Speaker 1: You do this all put deep. It's back for the Browns. 351 00:13:55,813 --> 00:13:59,413 Speaker 1: Five time pro bowler here for EA Sports and Madden. 352 00:13:59,453 --> 00:14:01,173 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about Madden in a second, 353 00:14:01,733 --> 00:14:05,213 Speaker 1: but let's talk about the Brown's gonna be new era 354 00:14:05,533 --> 00:14:06,093 Speaker 1: in Cleveland. 355 00:14:06,733 --> 00:14:09,413 Speaker 6: You got are you looking forward to the changes and 356 00:14:09,453 --> 00:14:09,973 Speaker 6: what's ahead? 357 00:14:10,093 --> 00:14:11,533 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to it. 358 00:14:11,573 --> 00:14:13,813 Speaker 7: You know, we just got an offensive minded coach and 359 00:14:13,893 --> 00:14:16,573 Speaker 7: Todd Monkin, and just looking forward to what he could 360 00:14:16,573 --> 00:14:18,773 Speaker 7: bring to our offense into our team. You know, I 361 00:14:18,853 --> 00:14:20,853 Speaker 7: heard a lot of great things if I I'm able 362 00:14:20,893 --> 00:14:23,813 Speaker 7: to elevate Lamar Jackson's game and Derek Henry's game, and 363 00:14:24,093 --> 00:14:26,093 Speaker 7: you know, looking for that to have it here in Cleveland. 364 00:14:25,773 --> 00:14:28,973 Speaker 6: Because y'all on the defense are like, we're good. Just 365 00:14:29,013 --> 00:14:29,813 Speaker 6: don't screw it up. 366 00:14:29,853 --> 00:14:32,293 Speaker 1: Now you lost your you lost your coordinator there, but 367 00:14:32,533 --> 00:14:34,013 Speaker 1: you think you're be able to keep it up even 368 00:14:34,053 --> 00:14:35,013 Speaker 1: in this new era. 369 00:14:35,133 --> 00:14:35,773 Speaker 8: Yeah, I believe so. 370 00:14:35,893 --> 00:14:37,373 Speaker 7: You know, we got a lot of great players, got 371 00:14:37,453 --> 00:14:39,813 Speaker 7: a lot of great talent as a core on the team. 372 00:14:40,173 --> 00:14:42,653 Speaker 7: So definitely looking forward to seeing who our new DC 373 00:14:42,813 --> 00:14:45,293 Speaker 7: will be. You know, I've heard that we lost coach Shortz, 374 00:14:45,333 --> 00:14:47,853 Speaker 7: but I think we're still gonna be able to play 375 00:14:47,893 --> 00:14:48,573 Speaker 7: at a high level. 376 00:14:49,093 --> 00:14:50,853 Speaker 2: How many podcasts would you think you would take to 377 00:14:50,853 --> 00:14:51,773 Speaker 2: beat up Miles Garrett? 378 00:14:52,013 --> 00:14:54,413 Speaker 3: Just we're like the average podcast? How many of us 379 00:14:54,493 --> 00:14:55,053 Speaker 3: would say? 380 00:14:55,053 --> 00:14:58,373 Speaker 1: There's three of us, and then there's another version of 381 00:14:58,373 --> 00:15:00,573 Speaker 1: each of us, so it's six of us. Could we 382 00:15:00,613 --> 00:15:03,293 Speaker 1: take out Miles Garrett? 383 00:15:02,973 --> 00:15:07,533 Speaker 7: Oh, I think you're go need a few more people. 384 00:15:08,133 --> 00:15:11,213 Speaker 7: Miles Garrett is a meta human. He's like a different 385 00:15:11,253 --> 00:15:12,173 Speaker 7: type of human being. 386 00:15:12,253 --> 00:15:12,613 Speaker 3: I don't know. 387 00:15:12,653 --> 00:15:14,773 Speaker 8: I think you guys will need a couple more people though. 388 00:15:14,813 --> 00:15:17,413 Speaker 2: So he is the freak of nature that we all 389 00:15:17,413 --> 00:15:20,213 Speaker 2: see on TV just as superhuman, just a superhuman. 390 00:15:20,373 --> 00:15:21,693 Speaker 3: Exactly what makes him so? 391 00:15:21,813 --> 00:15:24,173 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he's massive, I've stood next to him, 392 00:15:24,173 --> 00:15:26,773 Speaker 1: But what makes him so effective? Why is he means 393 00:15:26,853 --> 00:15:28,453 Speaker 1: now the all time single season sack? 394 00:15:28,613 --> 00:15:29,573 Speaker 6: Like the leader? 395 00:15:29,693 --> 00:15:30,013 Speaker 3: Yeah? 396 00:15:30,133 --> 00:15:32,213 Speaker 7: I think for him being as big as he is, 397 00:15:32,213 --> 00:15:35,893 Speaker 7: what he's six' five to, something but he's explosive in 398 00:15:36,293 --> 00:15:39,453 Speaker 7: fast like he has quick twitch like A dv at 399 00:15:39,493 --> 00:15:40,373 Speaker 7: THE d line. 400 00:15:40,373 --> 00:15:41,293 Speaker 3: Position SO i think. 401 00:15:41,133 --> 00:15:43,693 Speaker 7: That's what helps separates, him AND i mean just the 402 00:15:44,053 --> 00:15:46,613 Speaker 7: moves he's able to do to get around a, defender 403 00:15:46,893 --> 00:15:49,533 Speaker 7: our offensive player and his SPEED i think kind of 404 00:15:49,533 --> 00:15:51,093 Speaker 7: separates him from other. 405 00:15:51,093 --> 00:15:52,653 Speaker 3: Guys, MAN i grew up On. 406 00:15:52,733 --> 00:15:55,213 Speaker 4: MADDEN i developed my love of the sport playing the, 407 00:15:55,213 --> 00:15:56,853 Speaker 4: game and SO i MEAN i still play it today. 408 00:15:56,893 --> 00:16:00,413 Speaker 4: Sometimes what were you playing on? Initially like that as a, Kid, 409 00:16:00,413 --> 00:16:01,693 Speaker 4: like how did you would you grow up? 410 00:16:01,733 --> 00:16:02,093 Speaker 5: Gaming? 411 00:16:02,173 --> 00:16:03,973 Speaker 3: Like what was your first system and what were you? 412 00:16:04,013 --> 00:16:05,493 Speaker 3: Playing that good, question that's a great. 413 00:16:05,533 --> 00:16:07,653 Speaker 7: Question SO i think my first SYSTEM i was playing a. 414 00:16:07,653 --> 00:16:10,653 Speaker 7: GAME i had A nintendo had A nintendo and then 415 00:16:10,733 --> 00:16:11,173 Speaker 7: end up. 416 00:16:11,493 --> 00:16:15,373 Speaker 6: The original all, RIGHT i had the little hate bit was. 417 00:16:16,053 --> 00:16:18,733 Speaker 8: Yes SO i end UP i THINK i started that was? 418 00:16:18,773 --> 00:16:22,373 Speaker 8: It it was LIKE nfl TWO k or something like. 419 00:16:22,413 --> 00:16:23,453 Speaker 8: That what was that was TWO? 420 00:16:23,533 --> 00:16:27,333 Speaker 3: K five og MAD t. Shirt you're, like, oh look at, 421 00:16:27,333 --> 00:16:27,973 Speaker 3: THIS i was. 422 00:16:28,013 --> 00:16:30,893 Speaker 1: Wondering drew just started taking his clothes off in the 423 00:16:30,893 --> 00:16:31,813 Speaker 1: middle of about the. 424 00:16:31,813 --> 00:16:34,173 Speaker 3: GOAT i will also repregnize. That that's a real throw. 425 00:16:34,253 --> 00:16:35,133 Speaker 3: Back that's a real throw. 426 00:16:35,173 --> 00:16:37,573 Speaker 8: Back but, YEAH i started out there AND i loved 427 00:16:37,613 --> 00:16:37,893 Speaker 8: it ever. 428 00:16:37,933 --> 00:16:39,213 Speaker 3: Since, YEAH i. 429 00:16:39,213 --> 00:16:40,413 Speaker 6: Always wondering what you were. 430 00:16:40,453 --> 00:16:42,853 Speaker 3: Doing he was, talking let me just take my shirt 431 00:16:42,893 --> 00:16:45,133 Speaker 3: off an. Interview, No i'm Wearing. Intel have you GOT 432 00:16:45,213 --> 00:16:47,813 Speaker 3: i need that? Shirt that's an ninety. Four that's, crazy 433 00:16:47,853 --> 00:16:48,173 Speaker 3: one of my. 434 00:16:48,173 --> 00:16:49,893 Speaker 2: Favorites if we're gonna talk mad AND i just wanted 435 00:16:49,893 --> 00:16:50,813 Speaker 2: to be dressed for the account. 436 00:16:51,093 --> 00:17:08,013 Speaker 1: It you were in the twenty eighteen draft, class which 437 00:17:08,013 --> 00:17:12,572 Speaker 1: of course had all those, Quarterbacks, Lamar Josh, allen But 438 00:17:12,693 --> 00:17:14,933 Speaker 1: Sam darnold's the first one to go to The Super. 439 00:17:14,973 --> 00:17:16,053 Speaker 6: Bowl what do you think about? 440 00:17:16,093 --> 00:17:16,693 Speaker 3: That that's. 441 00:17:16,733 --> 00:17:19,213 Speaker 8: CRAZY i didn't expect, it, Honestly BUT i, mean. 442 00:17:19,133 --> 00:17:20,973 Speaker 7: LIKE i, said we definitely had a great draft, class 443 00:17:21,133 --> 00:17:24,013 Speaker 7: a lot of high power, quarterbacks and, yeah he was 444 00:17:24,053 --> 00:17:24,693 Speaker 7: the one to make it. 445 00:17:24,693 --> 00:17:27,853 Speaker 8: Out you, know he's looking forward to seeing what he 446 00:17:27,893 --> 00:17:28,493 Speaker 8: does in the Super. 447 00:17:28,533 --> 00:17:31,213 Speaker 1: Bowl one thing about playing in your, division, though you 448 00:17:31,293 --> 00:17:36,053 Speaker 1: See burrow And lamar twice a. Year, yah We're kentucky, 449 00:17:36,093 --> 00:17:39,853 Speaker 1: guys so we Watched lamar in. College it has to 450 00:17:39,893 --> 00:17:43,333 Speaker 1: BE i, mean he's just a different freak of, nature, 451 00:17:43,413 --> 00:17:46,373 Speaker 1: right how do you adjust to playing him twice a. 452 00:17:46,453 --> 00:17:48,973 Speaker 7: Year, yeah it's, tough, Honestly that's one of the games is, 453 00:17:48,973 --> 00:17:51,773 Speaker 7: like oh, okay we Got Lamar jackson this. Week it's 454 00:17:51,813 --> 00:17:54,693 Speaker 7: tough because his ability to be able to just continue 455 00:17:54,693 --> 00:17:57,453 Speaker 7: to play so like usually a play last four to six, 456 00:17:57,493 --> 00:18:00,053 Speaker 7: seconds but he's still running back. There so we having 457 00:18:00,053 --> 00:18:02,693 Speaker 7: a Cover guys Like Zay flowers just across the field 458 00:18:02,813 --> 00:18:04,893 Speaker 7: just cutting and. Run so it's like it's not your 459 00:18:04,933 --> 00:18:09,213 Speaker 7: traditional just like they just running around like backyard football pretty, 460 00:18:09,293 --> 00:18:11,453 Speaker 7: much and we just chasing guys. Around so knowing that 461 00:18:11,493 --> 00:18:13,532 Speaker 7: you gotta cover, LONGER i think that's what makes it 462 00:18:13,533 --> 00:18:15,173 Speaker 7: a little bit more difficult going against. 463 00:18:14,893 --> 00:18:19,013 Speaker 1: Said there's a story That Dion sanders apparently used to 464 00:18:19,053 --> 00:18:22,093 Speaker 1: say to his, coaches you give me so and, so 465 00:18:22,733 --> 00:18:23,373 Speaker 1: and then you. 466 00:18:23,293 --> 00:18:24,253 Speaker 6: Worry about the other. 467 00:18:24,333 --> 00:18:27,373 Speaker 1: Ten are You you give me so and so and 468 00:18:27,413 --> 00:18:28,653 Speaker 1: then you can worry about the other. 469 00:18:28,693 --> 00:18:31,013 Speaker 7: Ten some'm more so Like i'm gonna be on this 470 00:18:31,093 --> 00:18:33,973 Speaker 7: side of the. Field you could double coverage everything over. 471 00:18:33,973 --> 00:18:36,253 Speaker 8: There i'm gonna be. Man i'mnna be man coverage on. 472 00:18:36,293 --> 00:18:38,133 Speaker 7: It so this side of the field shut down and 473 00:18:38,213 --> 00:18:39,133 Speaker 7: worry about the other side of the. 474 00:18:39,133 --> 00:18:41,572 Speaker 1: Field so, YEAH i love that. Confidence but DB's think 475 00:18:41,653 --> 00:18:44,253 Speaker 1: you are the ones that do. That Like DB's talk 476 00:18:44,293 --> 00:18:46,133 Speaker 1: the most, trash, RIGHT i don't really talk too much, 477 00:18:46,173 --> 00:18:49,853 Speaker 1: trash but give me the top three trash talkers in THE. 478 00:18:49,933 --> 00:18:53,133 Speaker 1: Nfl in THE, nfl it might be offense because you're 479 00:18:53,133 --> 00:18:55,693 Speaker 1: the one receiving theres whereas you don't get to see 480 00:18:55,733 --> 00:18:56,333 Speaker 1: the defensive. 481 00:18:56,333 --> 00:19:00,613 Speaker 7: Ones, yeah just from the outside looking. IN i, MEAN 482 00:19:00,893 --> 00:19:02,532 Speaker 7: i think it used to Be Jayleen, ramsey like the 483 00:19:02,533 --> 00:19:04,973 Speaker 7: biggest track one of the biggest trash. TALKERS i Think Devin, 484 00:19:05,013 --> 00:19:09,133 Speaker 7: Witherspoon he's a guy that kind of seen talking. Trash 485 00:19:09,653 --> 00:19:10,133 Speaker 7: i'm gonna Go. 486 00:19:10,133 --> 00:19:12,372 Speaker 8: Greg neose And Greg news he's a new. 487 00:19:13,413 --> 00:19:15,332 Speaker 1: Wat tell you next time somebody, talks do you just 488 00:19:15,373 --> 00:19:18,893 Speaker 1: show him that the brains they like. That nobody's gonna 489 00:19:18,893 --> 00:19:19,893 Speaker 1: be able to handle. 490 00:19:19,613 --> 00:19:20,373 Speaker 3: That do. 491 00:19:20,493 --> 00:19:24,533 Speaker 1: You, Cleveland, okay takes a lot of takes a lot 492 00:19:24,533 --> 00:19:25,253 Speaker 1: of crap as a. 493 00:19:25,373 --> 00:19:26,933 Speaker 6: City fans love. 494 00:19:26,933 --> 00:19:30,333 Speaker 1: It we We we interviewed two people, today, uh two 495 00:19:30,333 --> 00:19:32,533 Speaker 1: people this year who got married in the parking lot 496 00:19:32,573 --> 00:19:36,173 Speaker 1: of a tailgate The Brown spider at the. Game what 497 00:19:36,373 --> 00:19:38,333 Speaker 1: is it like playing In cleveland and with those fans 498 00:19:38,333 --> 00:19:39,133 Speaker 1: that have been long. 499 00:19:39,253 --> 00:19:40,573 Speaker 6: Suffering, YEAH i love. 500 00:19:40,573 --> 00:19:40,653 Speaker 1: It. 501 00:19:40,733 --> 00:19:43,853 Speaker 7: Man that's my, hometown like From, Cleveland so you, KNOW 502 00:19:43,933 --> 00:19:46,292 Speaker 7: i grew up girl watching The browns once The browns. 503 00:19:46,293 --> 00:19:48,773 Speaker 7: Games growing up was with The Dog pound in the, 504 00:19:48,813 --> 00:19:51,293 Speaker 7: City SO i mean it's a great fan Based gray, 505 00:19:51,933 --> 00:19:53,133 Speaker 7: city and, uh. 506 00:19:53,133 --> 00:19:54,093 Speaker 8: They just want to, win you. 507 00:19:54,133 --> 00:19:57,013 Speaker 7: Know but regardless if we're not winning, losing they always 508 00:19:57,013 --> 00:19:59,293 Speaker 7: there in the stand supporting. This imagine what it's gonna 509 00:19:59,293 --> 00:20:02,253 Speaker 7: be like when you do. Win, Definitely, definitely it's gonna be. 510 00:20:02,293 --> 00:20:04,493 Speaker 7: Crazy the city is gonna. Explode it's gonna be. 511 00:20:04,533 --> 00:20:07,133 Speaker 2: Crazy being from there and you not as much tradition 512 00:20:07,173 --> 00:20:09,093 Speaker 2: as a lot of other, Teams like does it just 513 00:20:09,133 --> 00:20:10,493 Speaker 2: make you want it to be a part of it 514 00:20:10,533 --> 00:20:12,693 Speaker 2: that much more when they do figure it, out having 515 00:20:12,733 --> 00:20:15,693 Speaker 2: those roots and being as a, fan lifelong fan as you, Said, yeah. 516 00:20:15,693 --> 00:20:18,373 Speaker 7: DEFINITELY i MEAN i just know the moment that we 517 00:20:18,533 --> 00:20:20,213 Speaker 7: make it the, playoffs make it to the Super, bowl 518 00:20:20,533 --> 00:20:22,893 Speaker 7: the city's gonna be on. Fire so the weight on 519 00:20:22,933 --> 00:20:25,253 Speaker 7: the moment is. Coming you know it's, coming so just 520 00:20:25,253 --> 00:20:25,773 Speaker 7: wait for. It. 521 00:20:25,813 --> 00:20:28,853 Speaker 1: Now tell me About. MATT i hear you got a 522 00:20:28,893 --> 00:20:32,413 Speaker 1: pretty good. Rating you got correct about? That not good enough? 523 00:20:32,493 --> 00:20:33,292 Speaker 1: Rating the rating is. 524 00:20:33,373 --> 00:20:35,173 Speaker 7: OKAY i Think i'm like a ninety two right. Now 525 00:20:35,213 --> 00:20:38,053 Speaker 7: But i'm glad y'all. 526 00:20:38,053 --> 00:20:39,053 Speaker 3: Said that's. All that's All i'm. 527 00:20:39,053 --> 00:20:41,573 Speaker 7: SAYING i Feel i've been disrespected And. MADDEN i don't 528 00:20:41,573 --> 00:20:42,973 Speaker 7: even THINK i have AN x factor In, matt but 529 00:20:43,013 --> 00:20:45,893 Speaker 7: you're wearing The. Matt oh, Yeah i'm a great supporter Of. 530 00:20:45,933 --> 00:20:46,533 Speaker 3: MATT i Love. 531 00:20:46,573 --> 00:20:49,133 Speaker 6: Matt i'm gonna guess this is just a. Gas i'm 532 00:20:49,133 --> 00:20:52,133 Speaker 6: gonna guess your rating tire next, Year SO i. 533 00:20:52,253 --> 00:20:54,773 Speaker 8: Hope so you, know coming, ON i got Five Pro, bowls. 534 00:20:54,533 --> 00:20:55,093 Speaker 3: You, know coming on. 535 00:20:55,773 --> 00:20:57,612 Speaker 7: GREAT i don't know what ELSE i gotta, Do So 536 00:20:58,093 --> 00:20:59,933 Speaker 7: i'm good to get on calling man and put your 537 00:20:59,933 --> 00:21:01,853 Speaker 7: guys on the, phone and you, know hopefully you guys 538 00:21:01,853 --> 00:21:02,253 Speaker 7: can Tell. 539 00:21:02,333 --> 00:21:06,093 Speaker 6: Louis who is the Best madden player on your? 540 00:21:06,253 --> 00:21:07,812 Speaker 8: Team all, Right i'm gonna have to go. 541 00:21:07,853 --> 00:21:10,973 Speaker 7: Myself I'M i Feel i'm an extreme Level madden. 542 00:21:10,973 --> 00:21:11,373 Speaker 3: Player you. 543 00:21:11,373 --> 00:21:13,572 Speaker 1: KNOW i Saw cam scattaboo over, there just meant it 544 00:21:13,573 --> 00:21:15,613 Speaker 1: goes pretty. Good he was, WELL i don't, know he was. 545 00:21:15,653 --> 00:21:18,013 Speaker 1: Celebrating they were giving him some award AND i think 546 00:21:18,013 --> 00:21:18,973 Speaker 1: the two of you should go. 547 00:21:18,973 --> 00:21:19,653 Speaker 3: Out that'd be a good. 548 00:21:19,653 --> 00:21:20,693 Speaker 8: Matchup that'd be a good match. 549 00:21:20,773 --> 00:21:22,373 Speaker 3: Up we're gonna set that. UP i got set that. 550 00:21:22,453 --> 00:21:22,973 Speaker 3: UP i gotta ask. 551 00:21:23,013 --> 00:21:24,812 Speaker 2: Him we won't make it weird For browns. Fans but 552 00:21:24,893 --> 00:21:26,533 Speaker 2: do you play with The browns or do you play 553 00:21:26,533 --> 00:21:29,332 Speaker 2: with the. Team, see you gotta tell on. Yourself, no 554 00:21:29,493 --> 00:21:29,893 Speaker 2: ACTUALLY i. 555 00:21:29,933 --> 00:21:32,292 Speaker 7: Do USUALLY i do a franchise mold, though so you 556 00:21:32,293 --> 00:21:34,573 Speaker 7: could pick different, scenes BUT i still pick The. Browns 557 00:21:34,693 --> 00:21:36,733 Speaker 7: and then you could drive any players that you want 558 00:21:37,013 --> 00:21:37,173 Speaker 7: in the. 559 00:21:37,253 --> 00:21:38,773 Speaker 1: League and you don't want to be you don't want 560 00:21:38,773 --> 00:21:41,933 Speaker 1: to be stuck with Your what was it like The chador? 561 00:21:42,213 --> 00:21:44,733 Speaker 1: EXPERIENCE i, mean, obviously you KNOW i had some ups 562 00:21:44,733 --> 00:21:46,853 Speaker 1: and downs as a, player but there's there's just so 563 00:21:47,013 --> 00:21:49,853 Speaker 1: much else that came along with. That did the team 564 00:21:49,933 --> 00:21:51,733 Speaker 1: get used to it or is it like you, know 565 00:21:51,853 --> 00:21:53,893 Speaker 1: you just it's just one of those. Things, no it was. 566 00:21:53,933 --> 00:21:56,373 Speaker 7: GOOD i don't think it was as bad as people 567 00:21:56,453 --> 00:21:59,333 Speaker 7: might have made a scene from outside In Like, shador 568 00:21:59,413 --> 00:22:00,693 Speaker 7: he comes in and it. 569 00:22:00,613 --> 00:22:03,653 Speaker 8: Locks, in works hard and just tries to get better each. 570 00:22:03,733 --> 00:22:06,013 Speaker 7: Day SO i, mean it wasn't nothing out the ar 571 00:22:06,173 --> 00:22:08,173 Speaker 7: ordinary that he was doing when he came to. 572 00:22:08,213 --> 00:22:11,053 Speaker 1: WORK i, mean practicing against you every day probably helps 573 00:22:11,133 --> 00:22:11,933 Speaker 1: him a little, bit. 574 00:22:11,853 --> 00:22:14,013 Speaker 7: Right, YEAH i believe, so LIKE i said, BEFORE i 575 00:22:14,213 --> 00:22:16,453 Speaker 7: picked him off a few times in, practice so you, 576 00:22:16,493 --> 00:22:18,493 Speaker 7: know trying to help him learn and grow and know 577 00:22:18,573 --> 00:22:20,573 Speaker 7: he's helping me as well making good. 578 00:22:20,573 --> 00:22:22,573 Speaker 1: Throws going in the draft this, year what do you 579 00:22:22,613 --> 00:22:24,173 Speaker 1: think the team needs to? 580 00:22:24,373 --> 00:22:27,493 Speaker 7: ADD i would say, PERSONALLY i think that we need 581 00:22:27,853 --> 00:22:30,973 Speaker 7: to go, offense offense heavy in this. Draft you, know 582 00:22:31,053 --> 00:22:33,813 Speaker 7: get some more old line and get some, receivers get 583 00:22:33,853 --> 00:22:34,293 Speaker 7: a lot of. 584 00:22:34,413 --> 00:22:37,213 Speaker 8: Just offensive positions and help grow there and. 585 00:22:37,253 --> 00:22:41,653 Speaker 1: That all, right, Well didzel before you, go you obviously 586 00:22:41,733 --> 00:22:43,852 Speaker 1: have the fashion sense as well as. 587 00:22:43,893 --> 00:22:45,573 Speaker 6: ANYBODY i want you to look at the guy next to. 588 00:22:45,613 --> 00:22:48,453 Speaker 1: You, okay this Is, Billy, yeah all, Right billy has 589 00:22:48,613 --> 00:22:52,573 Speaker 1: these quarter. Zips he is big on the reversible quarter. 590 00:22:52,693 --> 00:22:55,133 Speaker 1: Zip he can wear, it he can reverse it on 591 00:22:55,213 --> 00:22:58,253 Speaker 1: the other. Side Like Christian watson, said it was a 592 00:22:58,373 --> 00:23:01,053 Speaker 1: terrible look and then it was like five and one 593 00:23:01,173 --> 00:23:02,013 Speaker 1: head and shoulders. 594 00:23:02,013 --> 00:23:02,533 Speaker 6: Shampoo. 595 00:23:02,773 --> 00:23:05,653 Speaker 1: RIGHT i Like Christian, WATSON i think you're drafts even 596 00:23:05,693 --> 00:23:08,693 Speaker 1: better THAN. Shwatsa what do you think of the reverse world? 597 00:23:08,773 --> 00:23:10,613 Speaker 1: QUARTERS i don't think it's not. 598 00:23:10,733 --> 00:23:11,133 Speaker 3: BAD i. 599 00:23:11,133 --> 00:23:13,853 Speaker 8: Think and also it's not the, clothes like it's you 600 00:23:14,013 --> 00:23:14,493 Speaker 8: that make the. 601 00:23:14,533 --> 00:23:16,573 Speaker 7: Clothes so it's like if you comfortable and then that's 602 00:23:16,613 --> 00:23:18,973 Speaker 7: what you like to. Wear That, like that's what gives 603 00:23:19,013 --> 00:23:20,453 Speaker 7: off the, aura gives off the. 604 00:23:21,093 --> 00:23:21,812 Speaker 1: VIBE i like. 605 00:23:21,893 --> 00:23:22,292 Speaker 8: It that's your. 606 00:23:22,333 --> 00:23:24,373 Speaker 7: Style let's, good you. KNOW i see you got the. Watch, 607 00:23:24,933 --> 00:23:26,413 Speaker 7: YEAH i feel like that's around the. 608 00:23:26,453 --> 00:23:27,933 Speaker 3: TIME ps, LIKE i like. 609 00:23:27,973 --> 00:23:29,493 Speaker 6: It what about THE nfl logo? 610 00:23:29,653 --> 00:23:32,572 Speaker 3: HAT nfl, Though i'm not mad at. It i'm not 611 00:23:32,653 --> 00:23:32,933 Speaker 3: mad at. 612 00:23:32,933 --> 00:23:34,613 Speaker 7: It you don't be in the Super. Bowl, like it's 613 00:23:34,653 --> 00:23:36,052 Speaker 7: a great moment to wear the. 614 00:23:36,093 --> 00:23:38,653 Speaker 4: HAT i got the ultra confidence that A dB has to, have, 615 00:23:38,773 --> 00:23:40,173 Speaker 4: right you gotta have that short term memory. 616 00:23:40,173 --> 00:23:43,053 Speaker 1: Exactly he looks a little bit like A dv, war 617 00:23:43,373 --> 00:23:49,493 Speaker 1: a DIFFERENT Dv ward here FOR Ea sports and man 618 00:23:49,893 --> 00:23:51,213 Speaker 1: For Cleveland. Browns thank you very. 619 00:23:51,293 --> 00:23:52,333 Speaker 3: MUCH i appreciate. 620 00:23:52,333 --> 00:23:52,893 Speaker 6: It appreciate. 621 00:23:52,933 --> 00:23:54,852 Speaker 5: It all. 622 00:23:54,933 --> 00:23:58,373 Speaker 2: Right that WAS Nfl cover zero's interview With cleveland Brown Denzel. 623 00:23:58,453 --> 00:24:00,613 Speaker 2: Ward we enjoyed talking to. Him we'll have more for 624 00:24:00,653 --> 00:24:03,653 Speaker 2: you coming up. Soon we'll we'll hit the latest news 625 00:24:03,693 --> 00:24:05,333 Speaker 2: in THE nfl. News we don't know, yet but it's 626 00:24:05,333 --> 00:24:07,933 Speaker 2: a busy offseason with the draft, approaching and we'll have 627 00:24:07,973 --> 00:24:11,853 Speaker 2: our interview with forty Nine ers Linebacker Eric, kendricks who 628 00:24:11,853 --> 00:24:12,933 Speaker 2: made a huge. 629 00:24:12,653 --> 00:24:14,253 Speaker 3: Play for the forty nine ers in the. 630 00:24:14,253 --> 00:24:16,413 Speaker 2: Postseason he was part of that team they had to 631 00:24:16,413 --> 00:24:19,133 Speaker 2: throw together when they battled so many, injuries a guy 632 00:24:19,133 --> 00:24:20,893 Speaker 2: whose career looked like it might have been, over and 633 00:24:20,933 --> 00:24:22,413 Speaker 2: he stepped up for them in a big. Way so 634 00:24:22,453 --> 00:24:24,173 Speaker 2: it was great talking to, him learning what it was 635 00:24:24,253 --> 00:24:25,813 Speaker 2: like being on a team that was just riddled with. 636 00:24:25,893 --> 00:24:28,333 Speaker 2: Injuries and we'll have that coming up. Soon for, now 637 00:24:28,333 --> 00:24:30,733 Speaker 2: thanks for listening TO Nfl Cover, Zero, billy thank you 638 00:24:30,813 --> 00:24:33,053 Speaker 2: for doing another one with, me and we'll be back next. 639 00:24:33,093 --> 00:24:33,812 Speaker 3: Week let's do. 640 00:24:33,893 --> 00:24:45,373 Speaker 1: IT Nfl Covers zero With Matt jones And Drew franklin 641 00:24:45,453 --> 00:24:48,453 Speaker 1: is a production of THE nfl And iHeart. Podcast for 642 00:24:48,533 --> 00:24:52,133 Speaker 1: more podcasts From, iHeartRadio visit The iHeartRadio, App Apple, podcasts 643 00:24:52,173 --> 00:24:54,292 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your. Podcasts