WEBVTT - What are Allergies and How Close Are We to a Cure?

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what, mengo, what's that will? So last year click

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<v Speaker 1>Hold did this ridiculous article that I just found so funny,

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<v Speaker 1>like I do many of their articles, but the title

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<v Speaker 1>of it was security failure. Epipen's database of everyone who's

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<v Speaker 1>allergic to bees has been obtained by Bees. Here's a

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<v Speaker 1>line from the article. So it was this prepared statement

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<v Speaker 1>from the company's website, the EpiPen company website, and it says,

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<v Speaker 1>we do not know what they planned to do with it,

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<v Speaker 1>but we can confirm that Bees have a list of

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<v Speaker 1>everyone who has ever purchased an EpiPen bees heavier information.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we are very sorry. You know what strange is

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<v Speaker 1>My dad has a severe allergy to fire ants and

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<v Speaker 1>we only realized this when he was in his forties.

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<v Speaker 1>Were in Florida visiting Disney World and Cypress Gardens, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is when we were kids. He got bitten and

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<v Speaker 1>then rushed away. Like my mom said, his face welled

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<v Speaker 1>up like modern shore and pure luck, which is just

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<v Speaker 1>such a dated reference, but that's what she always brings

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<v Speaker 1>up when we talk about this. It is a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>dated reference, but it was also a pretty funny and

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<v Speaker 1>diculous scene. But back to your dad, like I assume

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<v Speaker 1>he was, okay, yeah, I mean my dad being my dad,

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<v Speaker 1>he just played it down the whole time. And it

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<v Speaker 1>actually ended up being a strangely wonderful day for us

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<v Speaker 1>because while my parents were at the hospital, my aunt

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<v Speaker 1>and uncle were with us, and we somehow got to

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<v Speaker 1>pet a baby white tiger like one of the people

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<v Speaker 1>at Cypress Gardens let us do this. So in my

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<v Speaker 1>memory of the tiger cup plays a much much larger

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<v Speaker 1>role in the day than my dad's not being there.

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<v Speaker 1>You were obviously really concerned about your dad great son,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know now my dad just carries his EpiPen

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<v Speaker 1>with him everywhere, which is a literal lifesaver. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>know we both suffer from allergies at least to some degree,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what, the pollen count as high as

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<v Speaker 1>it's been today, felt like a good time to do

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<v Speaker 1>a show on what allergies actually are and and think

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<v Speaker 1>about how close we are to finding a cure for

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<v Speaker 1>different types of allergies, and also, of course answering the

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<v Speaker 1>question is putting vassoline up your nose a good life

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<v Speaker 1>hack for stopping pollen? So let's dive in. Hekay their

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<v Speaker 1>podcast listeners, Welcome to Part Time Genius. I'm Will Pearson

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<v Speaker 1>and as always I'm joined by my good friend manga

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<v Speaker 1>shot Ticketer and on the other side of the soundproof

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<v Speaker 1>glass keeping his allergies at bay by brushing his teeth,

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<v Speaker 1>of all things, that's our friend and producer Tristan McNeil. Now, Mango,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll admit I thought Tristan had lost his mind yet

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<v Speaker 1>again when he told us that he started treating his

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<v Speaker 1>allergies with toothpaste, But in doing our reading for this week,

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out it's a legitimate treatment, and Mango, you

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<v Speaker 1>can back me up on this, right. Yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>real thing. It's called aller dent and it basically works

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<v Speaker 1>the same way as typical allergy shots, where you, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>inject a tiny amount of an allergen as a way

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<v Speaker 1>to get your body used to it, except in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>the allergen extract is exed into your toothpaste instead of

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<v Speaker 1>loaded into a needle. And it is just such a

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<v Speaker 1>remarkable idea. You know, I have allergies. I often forget

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<v Speaker 1>to take my medication, but I don't forget to brush

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<v Speaker 1>my teeth, and it seems like a simple solution plus

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<v Speaker 1>it feels way less daunting than going in for like

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<v Speaker 1>an expensive shot every single week. Oh definitely. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the only downside right now is that it can be

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<v Speaker 1>pretty tough to get your hands on the toothpaste at

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<v Speaker 1>the current moment. And and that's because even though allergy

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<v Speaker 1>and extracts are FDA approved, it's only approved for shots

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<v Speaker 1>right now. But my guess is it won't be too

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<v Speaker 1>long before the toothpaste will be pretty easy to access.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, as we shift from one allergy season

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<v Speaker 1>to another, we thought it might be a good time

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<v Speaker 1>to take a closer look at the world of allergies.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, So we're gonna explore some unusual ways to

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<v Speaker 1>keep allergies in check, as well as the science behind

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<v Speaker 1>what causes them and even the history of why we

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<v Speaker 1>get them in the first place. But why don't we

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<v Speaker 1>start with what allergies actually are since we tend to

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<v Speaker 1>throw around the term pretty loosely. Like often you'll hear

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<v Speaker 1>people say they're allergic to something when you know they

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<v Speaker 1>might have some kind of intolerance but not an actual allergy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like somebody might be lactose intolerant, but that's not the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing as being allergic to milk, or they might

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<v Speaker 1>have a sensitivity to gluten, but eating bread doesn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>make them break out in hives or anything. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what the actual distinction is and and first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, like what makes an allergy an allergy? So

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<v Speaker 1>the term was coined in nine six by pediatrician in Vienna,

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<v Speaker 1>and he came up with it by joining the words

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<v Speaker 1>for different and reaction, and the idea was basically, if

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<v Speaker 1>someone is allergic to pollen or whatever, they're having a

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<v Speaker 1>different or unusual reaction to something considered harmless. But the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that really defines allergies is their underlying cause. And

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<v Speaker 1>the reason we have such extreme reactions to these otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>harmless substances is because of a hypersensitive immune system. So

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<v Speaker 1>rather than targeting genuine threats like a virus, the immune

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<v Speaker 1>system misidentifies something safe as dangerous and in the process

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<v Speaker 1>our our body takes these defensive measures to try and

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<v Speaker 1>expel the irritant as fast as possible. That's why you

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<v Speaker 1>get like a runny nose or you start sneezing, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's trying to get the stuff out. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we associate with allergies. But if you want to get

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<v Speaker 1>a little more scientific about it, these symptoms are the

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<v Speaker 1>result of a chemical called histamine, and when allergenic materials

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<v Speaker 1>bind to antibodies and the blood, the blood responds by

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<v Speaker 1>releasing tons and tons of histamine. The histamine then attaches

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<v Speaker 1>itself to cells in the nose and sinuses. It causes

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<v Speaker 1>all the blood vessels to expand, and it sends the

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<v Speaker 1>mucus production into overdrive, which is why we take and histamines.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, It's obviously one of those terms I think

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<v Speaker 1>we've always heard and we've known to take these things,

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<v Speaker 1>but not really thought about what that actually means. So

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<v Speaker 1>I get the general sense of what allergies are, but

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<v Speaker 1>is a peanut allergy the same thing as a pollen allergy,

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<v Speaker 1>but just like we're reacting to different substances or what

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<v Speaker 1>is it exactly? Yeah, So it kind of helps to

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<v Speaker 1>know that most allergies break down into two different groups,

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<v Speaker 1>and the first is called allergic rhind itis or this

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<v Speaker 1>is hay fever. And this category includes what we call

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<v Speaker 1>seasonal allergies, so things like pollen, mold spores, the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that crops up in the spring and summer, and it

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<v Speaker 1>also includes perennial allergies that bug people all here, like

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<v Speaker 1>dust mites, cockroaches, and pet dander, all right, So this

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<v Speaker 1>is what most people think of when they think about allergies,

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<v Speaker 1>like the kind of thing that makes you sneeze and

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<v Speaker 1>itch and feel congestion or even be lethargic, I guess exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>But things get more serious with the second type of allergy,

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<v Speaker 1>which of those brought on by food and also like

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<v Speaker 1>animal venom medications, even contact with materials like latex. And

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<v Speaker 1>in these cases, the body is still responding to an

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<v Speaker 1>ireritant by pumping out the histamines, but it's at a

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<v Speaker 1>completely different pace. It's doing this way way more aggressively,

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<v Speaker 1>so much so that when someone with an allergy eats

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<v Speaker 1>shellfish or it gets stung by b they just skip

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<v Speaker 1>that itchy I phase we know about, and it goes

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<v Speaker 1>straight into anaphylaxis. And that's the severe situation where your

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<v Speaker 1>air ways close up, you swell, your throat and tongue

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<v Speaker 1>sort of swell as well, and your blood pressure tends

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<v Speaker 1>to drop. All right. So the process is more or

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<v Speaker 1>less the same for all kinds of allergies. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>that some prompt more extreme reactions than others, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>the thing to remember is, in either case, it isn't

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<v Speaker 1>the allergyen that's attacking your body. It's actually your immune

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<v Speaker 1>system overreacting. And even though we understand how the process works,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't really know how people develop allergies in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place. I mean, something is causing our immune system

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<v Speaker 1>to lose it, but we still aren't sure what that is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's true, But we do have a couple of promising

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<v Speaker 1>leads on this. I mean, for one thing, we know

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<v Speaker 1>that our genetics play a factor in whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>we develop allergies. Actually, I was looking at this series

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<v Speaker 1>of twins studies that examine both fraternal and identical twins,

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<v Speaker 1>and the results were really interesting. So, first you take

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<v Speaker 1>fraternal twins and when one of them has a peanut allergy,

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<v Speaker 1>the rate of the other having a peanut allergy as

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<v Speaker 1>well was actually only about seven per cent. But you

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<v Speaker 1>look at idea of cool twins who share the same genes,

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<v Speaker 1>both twins were allergic in sixty percent of cases. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a pretty significant difference, huh. I mean, there's actually

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<v Speaker 1>another reason to think of genetics as the root of allergies,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that the tendency to have allergies is actually

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<v Speaker 1>something we inherit from our parents. So you know, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean that like, because your mom has a

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<v Speaker 1>fish allergy, you're definitely gonna have a fish allergy. It

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<v Speaker 1>just means that, you know, you have a higher chance

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<v Speaker 1>of developing an allergy to something. H Well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's obviously something there, but genetics aren't the only factor.

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<v Speaker 1>And who does or doesn't get allergies And another big one,

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<v Speaker 1>not surprisingly is the environment. After all, if you aren't

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<v Speaker 1>exposed to a particular allergy and there's no way to

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<v Speaker 1>develop an allergy to it, Like you know, take somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who lives in the desert, I mean, they're not likely

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<v Speaker 1>to have a pollen allergy since there isn't much plant

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<v Speaker 1>life and pollen to even be exposed to their Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the environmental component is interesting because it's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of works both ways. Like, uh, the flip side is

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<v Speaker 1>that being exposed to common allergies can also reduce your

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<v Speaker 1>chances of developing an allergy to them. And the key

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<v Speaker 1>here is really being exposed an early enough age. Like

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about this before, but a few recent studies

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<v Speaker 1>have shown that children who grew up on a farm

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<v Speaker 1>are less likely to develop allergies than kids who grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in cities. Well, and that's because the farm kids

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<v Speaker 1>were exposed to more allergens early on, right, That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>So a few years back, this science Institute in Belgium

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<v Speaker 1>found that exposure to farm dust actually helps build resistance

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<v Speaker 1>to dust based allergies. And this works because of a

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<v Speaker 1>protective protein called A twenty that's produced in the mucous

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<v Speaker 1>membrane of the lungs. And when kids breathe in farm dust,

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<v Speaker 1>their lungs produce more A twenty and this reduces their

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<v Speaker 1>allergic reaction to other kinds of dust. But, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>the trick is that this kind of resistance is only

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<v Speaker 1>built up while the lungs are still developing. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're like an adult who's allergic to dust bites,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little too late to solve that problem by

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<v Speaker 1>going out and becoming a farmer. Now, man, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I'll cross that one off the list. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting how much of an impact age has on allergies.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was reading how adults tend to have fewer

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<v Speaker 1>allergies than children do, especially when it comes to food allergies,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's far fewer allergies actually, But according to the

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<v Speaker 1>Food Allergy Research and Education Organization, one in thirteen kids

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<v Speaker 1>in the US has at least one food allergy. But

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<v Speaker 1>over a quarter of those kids will outgrow the food

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<v Speaker 1>allergies before they even reach adulthood. And research shows that

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<v Speaker 1>the earlier a child has an allergic reaction to food,

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<v Speaker 1>the more likely they are to outgrow it, which is why,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the consensus has actually shifted in recent years

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<v Speaker 1>about how soon babies should be given allergenic foods, things

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<v Speaker 1>like eggs or peanuts. And you know, we used to

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<v Speaker 1>think it was dangerous to feed infants these foods until

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<v Speaker 1>they were at least a year old. And this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been that long ago. I know, even when our

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<v Speaker 1>oldest child was an infant, they were telling us this.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, now a bunch of studies have proven

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<v Speaker 1>giving babies these foods when they're four to six months

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<v Speaker 1>old actually reduces the risk of developing allergies by as

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<v Speaker 1>much as I think, like eight. And the author of

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<v Speaker 1>the report puts it this way, you have the potential

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<v Speaker 1>to stop something in its tracks before it develops. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a window of time in which the body is more

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<v Speaker 1>likely to tolerate a food than react to it, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you can educate the body during that window, you're

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<v Speaker 1>at a much lower likelihood of developing an allergy to

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<v Speaker 1>that food, which makes a lot of sense, and it

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<v Speaker 1>also explains why some people continue to develop allergies well

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<v Speaker 1>into adulthood. And I guess that's because that's the time

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<v Speaker 1>when most of us are making big life changes. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're moving somewhere new, getting a pet, perhaps living on

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<v Speaker 1>the edge, and trying shellfish for the first time, starting

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<v Speaker 1>to get wild at that time, you know. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing I don't get is why the world's allergies

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<v Speaker 1>seem to be getting worse. You know, we've been reading

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about this, and these food allergist at Mount

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<v Speaker 1>Sina who spent the last couple of decades tracking peanut

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<v Speaker 1>allergies among children. And when they started this was back

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<v Speaker 1>in they found that one in two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>American children were allergic to peanuts. Now you fast forward

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<v Speaker 1>to two thousand ten and that number has jumped to

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<v Speaker 1>one in seventies, So that rate tripled in just thirteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>And well, it's true that food allergies are often misdiagnosed.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been a similariz in peanut allergies in countries like Canada, Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>the UK. And that's not even to mention you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the hay fever rise and asthma's on the rise and

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<v Speaker 1>these these same regions. So there's definitely something going on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the specifics might be up for debate still,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's no question that allergies have become a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more prevalent in the last thirty years or so. I

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<v Speaker 1>did some reading on why that might be, and one

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<v Speaker 1>of the biggest contributing factors seems to be rising global temperatures.

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't want to believe this, but it actually

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense when it was explained to me. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>higher temperatures lead to more plant life, which leads to

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<v Speaker 1>more pollen, and more pollen means more allergic reaction ends.

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<v Speaker 1>And in fact, a recent study found that the spring

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<v Speaker 1>pollen count has increased every year since the year two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and listen to these numbers. By the year twenty

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<v Speaker 1>there could be twenty thousand grains of pollen per cubic

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<v Speaker 1>meter compared to just eight thousand grains in the year

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand. Yikes, that's a that's a huge difference. But

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<v Speaker 1>global warming is only counting for the rhinitis cases, right,

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<v Speaker 1>not to mention the more serious ones. So what's causing

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<v Speaker 1>an increase in in things like food allergies or or

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<v Speaker 1>even like bea stings. Yeah, so those keys are a

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<v Speaker 1>little tougher to account for, but the prevailing theory is

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<v Speaker 1>that they're linked to our modern hygiene practices and the

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<v Speaker 1>ideas that are modern sterile lifestyles don't provide enough exposure

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<v Speaker 1>to potential allergens, which in turn causes our immune systems

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<v Speaker 1>to get board start lashing out at all the harmless

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like food or cat dender or whatever else. And

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<v Speaker 1>while it's likely that there are other factors behind the

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<v Speaker 1>recent rise of allergies, the hygiene theory would explain why

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<v Speaker 1>we mostly see this in predominantly wealthy westerns of id

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<v Speaker 1>s in less developed countries. You know, if your child's

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<v Speaker 1>immune system is struggling to deal with parasites from contaminated water,

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<v Speaker 1>then the body isn't wasting time or resources warding off

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<v Speaker 1>things like pollen. So if we go by the hygiene theory,

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<v Speaker 1>you can more or less chalk the whole allergy epidemic

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<v Speaker 1>up as basically first world problems. All Right, So at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, researchers have spent decades looking for a cure

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<v Speaker 1>for allergies, and the best option is still to just

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<v Speaker 1>treat the symptoms rather than cure the actual cause. But

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<v Speaker 1>thankfully we've got some pretty great options now, including some

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<v Speaker 1>of the more outside the box approaches, and we should

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<v Speaker 1>talk about those. But before we get to that, let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a quick break. You're listening to Parts and Genius,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're talking about the best ways to track and

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<v Speaker 1>treat your pesky allergies. So well, one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>effective and more obvious options for treating allergies is also

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most basic, and that's plain old avoidance.

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<v Speaker 1>And while that's pretty straightforward when it comes to food

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<v Speaker 1>or latex allergies, since you know, we generally have some

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<v Speaker 1>saying what we eat and wear, it's not as easy

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid things like pollen. And in those cases you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be a little more creative and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more vigilant. Yeah, when you think about pollen allergies, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you really just want to minimize your exposure as much

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<v Speaker 1>as you can. For example, pollen counts tend to peak

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<v Speaker 1>between the hours of five and ten in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>so if you can avoid the outdoors during that period,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you might spare yourself some of the sneezing

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<v Speaker 1>and whether obviously plays a big role as well. In

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<v Speaker 1>those pollen counts. You've got the warm and windier days

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<v Speaker 1>being the worst and the cool and rainier days being

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<v Speaker 1>the best in in terms of the pollen counts. But

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean you have to stay inside on those

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<v Speaker 1>nicest days. And one quick tip for braving pollen heavy

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<v Speaker 1>weather is to dab a little bit of assolene inside

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<v Speaker 1>your nostrils, and what happens there is that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the pollen and hale just get stuck in there before

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<v Speaker 1>it can reach your airways, which is so weird. Like

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<v Speaker 1>someone actually told me to do that with key, which

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<v Speaker 1>is uh Indian clarified butter, and they promised it worked,

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<v Speaker 1>and I refuse to do it because it just sounded unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I basically feel like I've got to try.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be walking around with some some butter up

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<v Speaker 1>your nose and it's it's kind of like our our

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<v Speaker 1>friends Sean in college whose grandmother had the cure for

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<v Speaker 1>everything was just to like rub some butter on his neck.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe there's something to this and we should just

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<v Speaker 1>try these things. Well. Another simple move is to check

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<v Speaker 1>the pollen forecast for your area during allergy season. And

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<v Speaker 1>some people don't realize this, but there's actually a National

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<v Speaker 1>Allergy Bureau and it posts the current pollen and mold

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<v Speaker 1>levels for different regions on its website. Yeah, so the

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<v Speaker 1>Weather channel does that as well, and Google even pulls

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<v Speaker 1>up that information automatically, like if you search for pollen

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<v Speaker 1>or allergy information in the area. Um, you can also

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<v Speaker 1>set push notifications on your phone so you will always

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<v Speaker 1>know when the pollen count starts to climb. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty amazing. Yeah, and it's definitely handy to have that,

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, let's be honest, not all of us

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<v Speaker 1>have the option of staying inside whenever pollen is is

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<v Speaker 1>causing big problems, nor you know, do we have the

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<v Speaker 1>courage to face social situations with vasoline smeared up our noses?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, so in those cases, and allergy sufferer's

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<v Speaker 1>best friend are the antihistamine medications that we talked about earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can obviously find those at your local drug store.

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<v Speaker 1>Not The only problem is knowing which option to go with. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the good news is that there really isn't a huge

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<v Speaker 1>difference between stuff like ben a drill or Zyrtec or clareton.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, these are all antihistamines that work by binding

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<v Speaker 1>to the histamine receptors in your nose and sinuses. So

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<v Speaker 1>instead of histamines activating these receptors and making your nose run,

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<v Speaker 1>the antihistamines muscle them out of the way and actually

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<v Speaker 1>take their spots, which is interesting. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>what about the nasal sprays, Like, is one more effect

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<v Speaker 1>have then the other in terms of pills for sprays? Actually, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean those nasal sprays contain corticos steroids that ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>help control symptoms better than their capsule counterparts, And that's

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<v Speaker 1>because the sprays don't prevent histamines from binding to their

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<v Speaker 1>receptors like the pills do. Instead, they actually prevent yourself

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<v Speaker 1>from reacting to the allergen at all, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it means there's no chance for them to even produce

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<v Speaker 1>histamines in the first place. Now, the only downside to

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<v Speaker 1>these is that these corticosteroids take longer to become effective,

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<v Speaker 1>so those nasal sprays do work best, but only if

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<v Speaker 1>you start taking them a couple of weeks before the

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<v Speaker 1>allergy season actually hits. That way, the steroids will have

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<v Speaker 1>built up in your system, so they'll have an easier

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<v Speaker 1>time controlling that immune response when allergens do crop up.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is particularly fascinating to me because I am

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<v Speaker 1>lazy about using the spray, like I take it when

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, but it's good to know that you sort

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<v Speaker 1>of need to use it regularly to build up your tolerance. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was exactly the same way. But now a

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<v Speaker 1>third way to treat allergies is also the closest thing

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<v Speaker 1>we have to a cure for them, and that's immunotherapy. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the most common examples of this are the allergy shots

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<v Speaker 1>we mentioned at the top of the show, and these

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<v Speaker 1>work much like a vaccine would, but you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>patient is basically injected with trace amounts of whatever they're

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<v Speaker 1>allergic to, and gradually their body builds a tolerance to

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<v Speaker 1>the substance until the allergic reaction is either severely reduced

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<v Speaker 1>or even eliminated altogether. But of course this approach also

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<v Speaker 1>has its drawbacks. I mean, for one thing, the shots

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<v Speaker 1>have to be administered every week, and not only is

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<v Speaker 1>that time consuming, it can also be pretty expensive, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, especially when you consider that this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>treatment can go on for five years or even longer. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's what makes that toothfaste so exciting, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, I love this idea that you might

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<v Speaker 1>be able to treat your allergies with tooth taste, and

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<v Speaker 1>that someday we'll be taking sun screen through pills instead

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<v Speaker 1>of having to apply it badly, Like, it's amazing all

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<v Speaker 1>these ways that we're going to be getting medicines. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've read a little bit about that too, in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the sunscreen and pill form, and it's fascinating. But

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<v Speaker 1>all right, well let's go back to the toothpaste show

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<v Speaker 1>just for a second, because I'm still a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>unclear on how that works, Like how do the allergens

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<v Speaker 1>even make it into your bloodstream? So I was wondering

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<v Speaker 1>that too, like it must be less effective than a shot, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But it turns out that the mouth is actually a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect place to administer allergy mets, and that's because the

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<v Speaker 1>mucus membrane in the mouth has such a high immune

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<v Speaker 1>response level. It's trying to make sure that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>do something stupid like drink a bunch of poison, and

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<v Speaker 1>toothpaste isn't the only way to take advantage of this.

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<v Speaker 1>So for years Europeans have actually used this under the

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<v Speaker 1>tongue allergy drop that works the same way. The biggest

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<v Speaker 1>problem was that the drops can aggravate your throat or

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<v Speaker 1>stomach if you accidentally swallow them, but thankfully the toothpaste

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<v Speaker 1>approach avoids those side effects altogether. Well, I'm definitely pulling

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<v Speaker 1>for this toothpaste and it just seems like such a

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<v Speaker 1>hassle free treatment, and much more so than any others

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about. But you know, for all the parents listening,

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<v Speaker 1>there might actually be a fourth treatment option available not

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<v Speaker 1>to you, but to your kids. And you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can think of these as preventive options, are ones that

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't require you to just pick up and move to

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<v Speaker 1>the farm belt. But you know, for starters. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>study out of the University of Alberta. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>a two thousand seventeen report that they put out, and

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<v Speaker 1>the researchers claim that having a pet in the house

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<v Speaker 1>could be a way to help prevent not only childhood allergies,

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<v Speaker 1>but obesity as well. And I feel so guilty now

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<v Speaker 1>because my kids have been asking for a dog for

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<v Speaker 1>such a long time and we've been slow rolling. But

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<v Speaker 1>they actually, they actually tipped me off and paid me

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<v Speaker 1>a few bucks to mention this, just to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>guilt you into the dog. So tell me what, like,

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<v Speaker 1>why is this the case? Like we're we're so used

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<v Speaker 1>to hearing about people with pet allergies that it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to imagine how having one could lead to the opposite result. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently there are two types of bacteria in particular that

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<v Speaker 1>have been linked to a lower risk of allergies and

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<v Speaker 1>even obesity and babies, and the studies showed that babies

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<v Speaker 1>who lived with pets had way more of both types

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<v Speaker 1>of these Now, incredibly, these positive results held true even

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<v Speaker 1>in households where pets had passed away before the baby

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<v Speaker 1>was born. So you could have just gotten a really

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<v Speaker 1>old dog, like while Lizzie was pregnant, and maybe that

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<v Speaker 1>would have solved everything. But that suggests that that health

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<v Speaker 1>booze from these bacteria might even extend into the womb.

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<v Speaker 1>So if it really comes down to just two bacteria, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>could we ever just get some kind of pet and

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<v Speaker 1>a pill one day? I mean, uh, you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to deal with any of the dog walking,

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<v Speaker 1>but you get all the benefits of their dirtiness. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that this is your solution when you're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be the dog lover of the two of us. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I am I I'd love to have a dog, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we've got family that's allergic. I I do

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<v Speaker 1>think our kids biggest fear is that, like now we're

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<v Speaker 1>just going to end up with a fish and call

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<v Speaker 1>it dog. So so you go, so the profits good

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<v Speaker 1>luck to see if that that trick works. Well, here's

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<v Speaker 1>one we don't want to encourage, but it is interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to read about, and that's that kids who bite their

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<v Speaker 1>nails and suck their thumbs actually reduced their risk of

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<v Speaker 1>allergies in the future. This is research that comes out

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<v Speaker 1>of New Zealand and the researchers were looking at this

0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:15.080
<v Speaker 1>long running study on thumb sucking and nail biding behaviors

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<v Speaker 1>and more than a thousand kids and so the participants

0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:22.639
<v Speaker 1>were quizzed on their habits at ages five seven, nine eleven,

0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 1>and then finally at thirteen and at age thirteen they

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<v Speaker 1>were given their first skin prick test to measure their

0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:33.840
<v Speaker 1>immune responses to different allergens. Now, according to the results

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:36.679
<v Speaker 1>from this, the kids that didn't engage in thumb sucking

0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:39.840
<v Speaker 1>or nail biding had a forty nine percent chance of

0:23:39.920 --> 0:23:42.920
<v Speaker 1>developing allergies. Meanwhile, you look at the kids who either

0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:45.720
<v Speaker 1>suck their thumbs or bit their nails, they actually only

0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:49.680
<v Speaker 1>had a forty risk. And what's more, the kids who

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:53.000
<v Speaker 1>did both actually had the lowest allergy risk of all

0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:57.880
<v Speaker 1>the participants at thirty which is interesting, but it's also

0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:00.480
<v Speaker 1>a pretty solid defense for the hygiene theory, right, Like,

0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:02.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if there's a benefit to stick in your

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:04.680
<v Speaker 1>dirty hands in your mouth, it must have something to

0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:08.640
<v Speaker 1>do with all those germs helping to strengthen your immune system. Definitely.

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:11.639
<v Speaker 1>But again, these aren't exactly behaviors you want your kids

0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:13.880
<v Speaker 1>to take up. So who knows how many people will

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:16.919
<v Speaker 1>actually reap the benefits from this. But you know, if

0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 1>pet and a pill ever catches on, maybe there's hope

0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:23.880
<v Speaker 1>for dirty fingernails and a pill too. Who knows, well,

0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:27.439
<v Speaker 1>I sure hope not, But to me it all sounds

0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:31.240
<v Speaker 1>like those terrible jelly bean flavors. Oh yeah, definitely good.

0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:33.800
<v Speaker 1>But you know that there's one way of dealing with

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 1>allergies that I want to make sure recover. But before

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:52.480
<v Speaker 1>we do that, let's take another quick break. All right, Mango,

0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 1>So what's this last way to avoid allergies that you

0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:58.680
<v Speaker 1>wanted people to know about. It is super simple. Don't

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 1>move to McAllen, Texas. Okay, all right, so I don't

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 1>have to become a farmer, and I shouldn't move to McAllen, Texas.

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 1>This is a good advice. But all right, so why

0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 1>not McAllen, Texas? So it's just not a great place

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 1>if you've got hay fever. And according to the Asthma

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and Allergy Foundation of America the a f A. McAllen

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:23.159
<v Speaker 1>is the number one worst city in America for allergies.

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Well we can we can forget the McAllen Tourism Bureau

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:29.639
<v Speaker 1>advertising on part time genius now at this point, all right,

0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:32.320
<v Speaker 1>but I'm curious, So what is this based on exactly?

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:35.320
<v Speaker 1>Is it just the pollen count? So it's actually this

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:37.720
<v Speaker 1>annual ranking that the foundation does and it's based on

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:40.400
<v Speaker 1>a few different factors. So pollen count is one of them,

0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:43.879
<v Speaker 1>but it's also things like the usage rate of allergy medications,

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:47.360
<v Speaker 1>the um number of allergy specialists in the area, and

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:49.520
<v Speaker 1>McAllen has showed up near the bottom of the list

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 1>for a few years now, but in two thousand eighteen

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 1>they finally scored a perfect hundred on this test. And

0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 1>to put that in perspective, Louisville, Kentucky is in second

0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:03.360
<v Speaker 1>and they only scored an eight six eight. Holy Cow,

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 1>and that does sound pretty bad. I mean, and I

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 1>know that the South in general can be pretty tough

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:11.119
<v Speaker 1>for allergy sufferers. I know moving to Atlanta has been

0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 1>a little bit rough on you with that. But you know, honestly,

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 1>you should be thankful you're not in the allergy capital

0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 1>of the world, and that is Islamabad, which is the

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 1>capital of Pakistan. So I'd never heard this, Like, how

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 1>bad is it there? It is horrible. I mean, the

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:28.480
<v Speaker 1>spring pollen season is so bad that many of the

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:31.240
<v Speaker 1>wealthier citizens just go to the countryside for a few

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:34.239
<v Speaker 1>months just to avoid it entirely. And then those who

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 1>stay behind really trying to stay indoors as much as

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:40.160
<v Speaker 1>they can. But even that is rough. It was one

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 1>reporter who was speaking to a woman who actually slept

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>upright in a chair throughout the allergy season because otherwise,

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:49.400
<v Speaker 1>she explained, she would just stop being able to breathe.

0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:53.359
<v Speaker 1>That is awful. I mean, it does seem like a

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:55.639
<v Speaker 1>little backwards though, like, like, how do you wind up

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:57.639
<v Speaker 1>with the city that has more of a pollen count

0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:01.080
<v Speaker 1>than the countryside around it. Well, it actually comes back

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:04.440
<v Speaker 1>to the city design, and it's bad design. So you

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:07.600
<v Speaker 1>go back to the nineties sixties, Islamabad was going through

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:11.119
<v Speaker 1>a period of enormous growth and officials started looking for

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 1>ways to add stretches of green space throughout the city

0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:18.200
<v Speaker 1>and this was really just to beautify the city. But unfortunately,

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 1>they fell behind on this greenery project and the city

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:24.359
<v Speaker 1>remained pretty much treeless for the better part of a

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>decade or so. Then years later, the city planners were

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 1>trying to make up for this lost time and they

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 1>were looking to see the entire city with these fast

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 1>growing paper mulberry trees. So all through the late sixties

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 1>you'd have helicopters flying over is Lamabads scattering these mulberry seeds.

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 1>And to the planners credit, the plan actually did technically

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>work and these trees grew quickly. They made the city

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 1>look a whole lot prettier. But the trouble was that

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 1>these paper mulberry trees took a little too well to

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:57.679
<v Speaker 1>their new home city, and so throughout the seventies, the

0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 1>trees came to dominate the landscape and really just started

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:03.639
<v Speaker 1>crowding out all the native plants that were there pretty

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 1>much completely. Yeah. I was gonna say, like, I'm not

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:09.879
<v Speaker 1>that familiar with Pakistan, but I don't really know about uh,

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 1>mulberry trees being that big a part of the landscape. Yeah,

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>that's right, and that they're actually listed as an invasive

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 1>species in some US states as well. So, honestly, no

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 1>matter how you slice it, seating a city with these

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.959
<v Speaker 1>things was a terrible idea. And of course the residents

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:28.639
<v Speaker 1>weren't expecting to deal with the pollen output of tens

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>of thousands of mulberry trees, so you know, city officials

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 1>effectively doomed a huge chunk of the population to life

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>with these seasonal allergies. In fact, the Pakistan Medical Research

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Council later found that about forty five per cent of

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>allergic patients and Islamabad were sensitive to the trees pollen,

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 1>and just to give you a sense of it, the

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>city's record high pollen count is about four and a

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>half times the records of most of the U. S cities.

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that sounds miserable, but you know, one thing

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm really thing is that we've been pretty tough on

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>allergies today. Like we spent like twenty minutes talking about

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 1>how terrible they are and how to rearrange your whole

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 1>life to avoid them. But I came across this weird

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 1>connection between allergies and parasites that kind of had me

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 1>questioning whether there might be an upside to allergies. That

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>seems like a weird statement to say with two people

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 1>who have allergies, but do explain. Yeah, so think about this.

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Earlier we mentioned that allergic reactions begin with an antibody

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>overreacting to something harmless. And the antibody that overreacts in

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 1>the case of most allergy attacks is also the same

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 1>antibody that defends our bodies from mites and also helmets. Alright, so,

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 1>just to clarify, helmets are things like flat worms and

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 1>roundworms and flukes and you know, all kinds of infectious

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>creatures that you definitely don't want in your blood strain.

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 1>But I think what you're saying is the same antibody

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>that fights allergens also, for some reason fights parasites. Yeah,

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>so that's what's so strange to me. Like, like, when

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 1>researchers looked into it, they found that most of proteins

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 1>and the things that kickoff allergies are also found in

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 1>the bodies of these parasites. And that means allergies might

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 1>just you know, be an unfortunate side effect of our

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 1>immune systems response to parasites because of those shared proteins

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 1>or bodies might not be able to tell the difference

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 1>between the harmless dust or pollen and an infectious parasite.

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting, and I guess all told, hay fever isn't

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 1>a terrible price to pay for the ability to fight

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 1>off these parasites. But I'm curious though, Like, does that

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>also include foods that people are commonly allergic to? It's

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 1>a good question. As far as I could tell, it

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 1>was mostly allergens that were related to hay fever and

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>insects things, But I did read one theory about how

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 1>food allergens might tie into all of this. According to

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 1>an immunobiologist that Yale, it might be that foods of

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 1>proteins that remind the body not of parasites, but of

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 1>toxic plants and other harmful substances. Okay, see so so

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 1>just like with pollen and parasites, our bodies would recognize

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 1>some foreign proteins and then mistakenly lumps something like peanuts

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 1>into that same category. He IS's ay nightshade or something

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>which you know, it's interesting to think about, and it

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 1>doesn't make me any You're happier to have allergies, but

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I guess it does less than the annoyance with them

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. But I mean, if nothing else, it's

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 1>nice to know that they serve some sort of purpose.

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Exactly what do you say? We switched gears and kick

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 1>off the fact off? All right, let's do it. So

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 1>this feels hard to believe, but I double checked it.

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Apparently Clint Eastwood is allergic to horses. What I just uh,

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>I can't accept that. That's too ridiculous. We should just

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>stop now, all right. Well, here's something interesting. Apparently making

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>out will reduce your allergies. And this research comes from

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 1>a doctor Kamana, who oversees an allergy clinic in Osaka,

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 1>and in this study he took sixties subjects with hay

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>fever but who claimed not to kiss their partners on

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 1>a regular basis. So he took half of them, put

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>them in a room, piped in romantic music and forced

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>them to play seven minutes in heaven but for thirty minutes.

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 1>And it had an impact because the allergy sufferers who

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>made out showed a decreased reaction to dust mites and

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 1>cedar pollen than those who didn't. I love the idea

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>of the study where you're like collecting patients for it

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>or subjects for it, and and you put like, do

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 1>you have allergies? Check? Do you make out with your

0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 1>partner on a regular basis? No, that's not really You're

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 1>in now go and make out. Did you know that

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 1>magnetic poetry is all thanks to allergies? Fairly? This guy

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 1>who invented magnetic poetry was a songwriter and he was

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 1>having writer's block, so he started cutting out lyrics from

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>magazines and just words and started placing them around the

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>table to like figure out new ways to write songs.

0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 1>And his girlfriend, who had allergies at the time, sneezed

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 1>and blew everything away. So the next time he attempted,

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 1>he taped the words to these cut up refrigerator magnets,

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 1>and that's how this nineties trend was born. That's pretty great.

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>So well, it's no secret that people can be allergic

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 1>to cats. You know. Bill Clinton, for instance, was allergic

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 1>to socks. Cats can also be allergic to people. According

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>to that geo, cats and dogs can both react badly

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:22.640
<v Speaker 1>to human dander, though the condition is treatable with the

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>same things that we use, and that's shots and pills. Well,

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 1>one thing that got some press recently was the lone

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Star tick, which apparently gets its name because it has

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 1>a tiny Texas shaped spot of white on its back.

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how how you just see a splotch

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>and think, oh, that's Texas time. But the reason that

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 1>God it's notoriety is that one bite apparently makes people

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 1>allergic to meat, and specifically red meat. Apparently there's a

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>sugar molecule and red meat called alpha gl for short,

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 1>and according to Wired magazine, the allergy is particularly unusual

0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 1>because quote usually a mix of genes and environment nill

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>factor is combined to create allergies, but when it comes

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>to the Lone Star tike. It doesn't matter if you're

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 1>predisposed or not. Basically anyone can be made allergic by

0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 1>a bite. Huh. Yeah. I had a cousin who's whose

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 1>son was dealing with this as well, and it was

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 1>pretty significant. But there are times when I've wondered whether

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:19.960
<v Speaker 1>it was maybe a conspiracy cooked up by the veggie

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>burger manufacturer. So I'm looking into that. I'll let you

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>know when I find out. But all right, well here's

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>a cool and a French biotech company has come up

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:32.800
<v Speaker 1>with a peanut allergy patch. Now it's not a cure,

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.240
<v Speaker 1>but the idea is that it gives you these micro

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:38.879
<v Speaker 1>doses of peanut protein to slowly build your tolerance so

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:41.880
<v Speaker 1>that you know, if you accidentally touch a peanut, for example,

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 1>you'll have a less severe reaction to it. That's really encouraging.

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>So there's actually this new shot that could change our

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 1>fight with allergies as well. It is developed at Northwestern

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 1>and at the University of Michigan together, and and I

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:58.800
<v Speaker 1>read about this in Scientific American. But the injection basically

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>sends the allergen into the system in this trojan horse.

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 1>It's this nanoparticle that envelopes the allergyin and uh it

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 1>goes to the liver and spleen where that casing dissolves,

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 1>and when things go okay in the body, the immune

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 1>system kind of learns from the experience and it realizes

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:17.760
<v Speaker 1>the allergy isn't actually harmful. It's amazing because it's actually

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 1>worked on some nut allergies, and the team is now

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 1>experimenting with things like gluten allergies. So these are big

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 1>life changing things for people. And I guess it might

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 1>be a little while before they tackle my polar an allergy,

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<v Speaker 1>my mild polar an allergy. But I do love that

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<v Speaker 1>they're making these sort of advances, you know, thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>today between nanotechnology, thirty minute makeout sessions, you know, cramming

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<v Speaker 1>vassoline up your nostrils. You know, there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of ways of dealing with allergies, some more appealing than others.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked a lot of your facts today, me go,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Clint Eastwood one, I'm still not recovered from that.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you need to take today's fact off trophy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>me and the allergic course I wrote in on Well,

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