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Speaker 1: Welcome to Out of Money. I'm Joel, I'm Matt, and

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Speaker 1: today we're talking how you can butcher your grocery bill.

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Speaker 2: And this episode is brought to you by butcher Box.

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Speaker 2: Just kidding, that would be way too on the nose.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what butcher box. Butcher box is.

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Speaker 2: I want to say butcher blocks. For some reason, I

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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think it's an expensive way to get meat delivered you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like a meat delivery service.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: That would actually probably be the opposite thing you want

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Speaker 1: to do, if you want to say money on dish fix, where.

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Speaker 2: They just automatically send you clothes and you're tempted into

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Speaker 2: keeping it.

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Speaker 1: And for some people it's it's a work while splurge,

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Speaker 1: but for most folks, that's not how you're going to

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Speaker 1: save the most money doing it right. That's right, and

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Speaker 1: by the way, but we want people to take a

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Speaker 1: cleaver to there a monthly grocery your budget and especially now,

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Speaker 1: people just feel the pain of groceries more so we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about give a bunch of suggestions about how

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Speaker 1: to relieve that pain today, which.

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Speaker 2: Cleavers, like Chinese cleavers, are totally in by the way.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen Kate's over at our house? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: it looks nancy. I wouldn't know how to use it though,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you just use it like a regular chef's knife.

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Speaker 2: But it's just another tool to add to the toolkit, right,

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Speaker 2: It's another tool in the arsenal when it comes to cooking.

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Speaker 2: But this is going to be a great topic because

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Speaker 2: I'll readily admit there are some topics that I know

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Speaker 2: we talk about that we discuss that may not appeal

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Speaker 2: to everyone out there. There are certain things that we

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Speaker 2: discussed that aren't applicable to everybody. That is not the

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Speaker 2: case today.

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Speaker 1: We sometimes to talk about real estate investing and some

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Speaker 1: people be like, dude, snooze fest. I don't care, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to do that. But everybody's not going to

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Speaker 1: be well. And we want to encourage folks to listen

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Speaker 1: to those episodes because I still think that there are

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Speaker 1: some little nuggets of information that you are going to

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Speaker 1: be able to glean from those episodes. But this one

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Speaker 1: is going to be a topic that is most definitely

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Speaker 1: applicable to everyone out.

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Speaker 2: There for sure.

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Speaker 1: All Right, something else, it's applicable to a lot of

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Speaker 1: people that a site that I've heard about that, but

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Speaker 1: I just gave it a test this week because I

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Speaker 1: wanted to know, Okay, is this actually a good way

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Speaker 1: to go about saving money on getting something shipped across

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Speaker 1: the country. So there's an Instagram account I follow. They

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Speaker 1: sell mid century furniture and did you buy a fancy

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Speaker 1: piece of furniture?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: I didn't yet, I'm thinking about it. But I was like,

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Speaker 1: they're in North Carolina, and I was like, I don't

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going to go pick this thing up.

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Speaker 2: But it's just like a barkart.

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Speaker 1: Basically, we have a space that has been sitting empty

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Speaker 1: since we moved in in July, and I've been backly

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Speaker 1: where you're talking about, been looking for some sort of

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Speaker 1: bark heart essentially to fill that space, or or like

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Speaker 1: a display cabinet. But and I'm looking for something that

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Speaker 1: fits in with the rest of our our furniture. And

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Speaker 1: I did this, you know, seller on Instagram that I've

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Speaker 1: been following for years posted one and I was like,

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Speaker 1: that's really reasonably priced and it looks good. But I

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Speaker 1: was like, how can I get someone to bring it

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to drive up there wait for that too.

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Speaker 2: Much money. Were in North Carolina, maybe we can it's

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Speaker 2: in Nashville, Oh, which we should. Dude, Okay, that'd be

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Speaker 2: a good Why would you not want to take it

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Speaker 2: to Ashville? I guess it's actually getting it. Could you

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Speaker 2: fit it in your vein? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can totally fit it in too, So maybe

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Speaker 1: I should do that. Maybe that's maybe we'll take a

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Speaker 1: road trip the best way. I ran it, but I

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Speaker 1: bring it here? And they mentioned, hey, we've got this

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Speaker 1: white Glove service reach out to them. The cost was

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Speaker 1: pretty expensive. It was more than the cost of the

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Speaker 1: no way, not interested, not a deal now. But I

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Speaker 1: looked up there's a website called Shipley, and Shipley is

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Speaker 1: basically putting it out for bids to all the people

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Speaker 1: and I was like, that's still really really, really really expensive.

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Speaker 1: And by the end of the bit, because everyone's competing

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, cool, I still haven't pounds. I haven't

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Speaker 1: you hire someone to ship it to bring it to me.

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Speaker 1: But I was like, now it's reasonable. So that's kind

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Speaker 1: of cool. And they have like reviews and stuff and.

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Speaker 1: Dude. How do you spell it? Ship l y shipley?

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Speaker 1: It's again not something I've actually used yet except for

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Speaker 1: an attempt to get these bids. But if you're looking

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Speaker 1: though you want to desperately because the beer scene is

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Speaker 1: so good. I think Shipley's kind of a cool sight.

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Speaker 1: We're checking out, very cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anytime there is a platform a website that facilitates

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Speaker 2: a free and open, competitive marketplace like that, Yeah, all

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Speaker 2: for that. Yeah, but uh, let's introduce the beer you

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Speaker 2: and I are going to enjoy during this episode. This

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Speaker 2: is a barrel age shower brown Ale. That is I

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Speaker 2: believe it's called Darken. That's you know, it's written in

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Speaker 2: the biggest letters, I guess on the label, but this

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Speaker 2: is my upland sour ales. I assume they only make

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Speaker 2: sour beers, but I'm looking forward to enjoying. I don't

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Speaker 2: think we've ever had a beer by these guys before,

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Speaker 2: so definitely looking forward to this one. And stick around

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Speaker 2: to the end of the episode because that's when we

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Speaker 2: will share our thoughts on it, for sure.

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Speaker 1: But for now, let's get onto the topic at hand.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about out how to butcher your grocery bill

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Speaker 1: and Matt, everybody eats food. That is what you need

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Speaker 1: to sustain life. You gotta have water, you gotta have food,

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Speaker 1: gotta have air, and so air makes me think of

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Speaker 1: the fact that we all have.

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Speaker 2: To breathe, right.

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Speaker 1: Well, I didn't really realize this until just, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: six months ago, until I read a new book. But

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that we could all breathe better. It

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Speaker 1: had just not really crossed my mind. And then I

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Speaker 1: read this book called Breath, which is aptly titled makes

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Speaker 1: Sense by James Nestor, who's a journalist. He looked into

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Speaker 1: the science of breathing and he gave a bunch of

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Speaker 1: his main tips from that book were to breathe through

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Speaker 1: your nose, not your mouth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard of that one.

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Speaker 1: Apparently, like the conditions of your nose just make it

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Speaker 1: because of the conditioning that your nose is doing versus

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Speaker 2: Right, I'm breathing through my nose, right.

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Speaker 1: See you look healthier already. The color of my cheeks,

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Speaker 1: they're rosy. Yes, it's just kind of.

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Speaker 2: It makes sense, right, Yeah, I guess he goes through

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Speaker 2: this your sinuses and I'm assuming it adds moisture to

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Speaker 1: So there's a bunch, there's like a bunch of different

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Speaker 1: like science of reasons that breathing through your nose is

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Speaker 1: other quick tip from the book, if you if you're

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Speaker 1: cliff notes. Well, fewer deeper breaths is another way to

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Speaker 1: breathe effectively. It's just because like that's it regulates your

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Speaker 2: You're having a panic, you're going to feel bad really quickly.

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Speaker 1: But if you take those I think you said, five

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Speaker 1: and a half second in, five and a half second

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so all sorts of interesting things to something that

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Speaker 2: This is like the Huberman lap kind of stuff. But

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Speaker 2: I'm into, like you telling me all these things, and

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Speaker 2: I will start doing them. Well, you're gonna like this

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Speaker 2: book then for the rest of my life. Have you

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Speaker 2: read it, you'd be into it. I think we've talked

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Speaker 2: some of these things, or maybe I read a summary

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well maybe get the audiobook. It's not

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Speaker 1: thing is true with groceries. So we've got kind of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just like everyone out there, they've got to breathe

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Speaker 2: the air, we all have to eat food. And literally,

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Speaker 2: like I was saying earlier, like everyone out there has

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Speaker 2: to buy groceries. This isn't one of those expenses where

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Speaker 2: you're thinking, oh, you know, this isn't an expense that

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Speaker 2: applies to me. No way, We've all got to eat

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Speaker 2: and we've all probably seen from personal experience that groceries

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Speaker 2: which means this is a smart place to start working

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Speaker 2: on being more efficient with your dollars. And also inflation.

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Speaker 2: Inflation has also taken a toll on food prices. Now,

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Speaker 2: the Labor Department said that grocery prices went up by

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Speaker 2: almost twelve percent back in December. They're two a year prior,

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Speaker 2: and obviously, you know inflation, it is starting to come down.

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Speaker 2: We've seen some encouraging headlines, some encouraging news from the Fed.

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Speaker 2: That being said, it's not happening overnight, and groceries seem

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Speaker 2: to be one of the stickiest sectors where inflation is

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Speaker 2: hanging out, hanging around even longer. So that's just another

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Speaker 2: reason for us to discuss savings techniques on the show

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Speaker 2: today when it comes to food and how you can

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Speaker 2: save money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw an article about Whole Foods. They're asking

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Speaker 1: their suppliers to trim costs in order to drive their

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Speaker 1: cost down so that they can kind of pass some

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Speaker 1: of those onto the consumer. And it makes sense, especially

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Speaker 1: for one of the more expensive grocery stores like Whole Foods.

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Speaker 1: They're feeling the pinch in a bigger way as people

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Speaker 1: are trying to turn their grocery billt go. Figure, why

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Speaker 1: isn't everybody doing that right? Well, and Whole Foods is

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Speaker 1: asking for that nice guy Disco. That's one of the

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Speaker 1: down in an environment where costs or rising rapidly, and

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Speaker 1: so Whole Foods, I'm sure of seeing people walk out

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Speaker 2: course of the year. Yes, and I guess so far

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Speaker 2: we've essentially made a case for why it is that

439
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Speaker 2: you should be paying more attention to your groceries. But

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Speaker 2: we're gonna get to some practical tips on how it

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Speaker 2: is that you can butcher your grocery bill, and we'll

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Speaker 2: get to some of those right after this.

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Speaker 1: All right, Matt, let's keep going. Let's talk about butchering

444
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Speaker 1: your grocery bill. It makes me think of Sam the

445
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Speaker 1: butcher from The Brady Bunch. I thought you're gonna say

446
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Speaker 1: butcher Bill from U Oh, that'd be a good one too,

447
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Speaker 1: gangs in New York.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yes, that was a good one.

449
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Speaker 1: Some good butchers in classic American film and TV history.

450
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Speaker 1: But you know, we were just talking about recipes before

451
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Speaker 1: the break and how it might make sense to order

452
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Speaker 1: a meal kit to help you out. But one of

453
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Speaker 1: the advantages of going with a recipe is that you

454
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Speaker 1: can plan and buy your groceries in a very precise way.

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Speaker 1: You're also not following a recipe for every single meal

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Speaker 1: that you're making it home to really, right, there's some

457
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Speaker 1: that you're just going for memory. A lot of things

458
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Speaker 1: I cook are the same seven or eight things I

459
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Speaker 1: cook every time. I don't have this wide arrange, and

460
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Speaker 1: I'm not always testing out new things, although you know

461
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Speaker 1: that's something I hope to do more over time. But

462
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that you're doing on the fly.

463
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Speaker 1: And the same thing is true when it comes to

464
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Speaker 1: setting up a realistic budget, which is an important part

465
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Speaker 1: of butchering that grocery bill and lowering your grocery costs.

466
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Speaker 1: There's a learning curve and you're likely to get better

467
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Speaker 1: over time, and so when it comes to budgeting, we

468
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Speaker 1: don't necessarily want you to spent what you spent last month.

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Speaker 1: Depends on how thoughtful you are about grocery purchases last month,

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Speaker 1: I guess. But it's crucial to know how much money

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Speaker 1: you spent on groceries in February so that it can

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Speaker 1: at least inform your March budget and you can take

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Speaker 1: a realistic approach. Right, you can put a line item

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Speaker 1: in your budget for groceries that is absurd that you'll

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Speaker 1: never hit. You can say, I'm a family of six,

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Speaker 1: We're going to send two hundred and twenty dollars on groceries,

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Speaker 1: and that is just setting yourself up for failure. Right, Well,

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Speaker 1: what use is that really of coming up with a

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Speaker 1: number that you'll you're never going to be able to

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Speaker 1: actually meet.

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Speaker 2: Well, you just really like the feeling of defeat, right, Yes,

482
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Speaker 2: so we would suggest using previous numbers to help you

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Speaker 2: come up with an attainable dollar amount to shoot for.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, you'll probably want to use

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Speaker 1: that number and then challenge yourself to improve upon previous

486
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Speaker 1: spending levels too, in order to free up more cash

487
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Speaker 1: for other goals.

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Speaker 2: Chip gout.

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Speaker 1: That's the whole point of saving money at the grocery store.

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Speaker 1: So you can take extra dollars that you were putting

491
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Speaker 1: towards feeding your family and funnel them towards more exciting,

492
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Speaker 1: more fun areas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even feeding your family in the future by investing

494
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Speaker 2: those dollars. Yeah. But so maybe you are thinking, well,

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Speaker 2: I have no clue how much I should be spending

496
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Speaker 2: on groceries. I can see what I have spent. But

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Speaker 2: if that is you, a decent rule of thumb is

498
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Speaker 2: to not spend more than ten percent of your take

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Speaker 2: home pay on groceries. So let's say you make around

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Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars a year, so after taxes and withholding,

501
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Speaker 2: you're you're taking home a little less than seventy five

502
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars depending on your state, but meaning your monthly

503
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Speaker 2: take home pay is around six thousand dollars. So that

504
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Speaker 2: means it's a good goal to try and spend no

505
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Speaker 2: more than six hundred dollars a month on groceries. If

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Speaker 2: you are spending more than that, or you know, maybe

507
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Speaker 2: you are spending a little more than you want to,

508
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Speaker 2: then we would recommend to work on reducing that amount.

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Speaker 2: Don't do it all at once, but look at doing

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Speaker 2: that over like two or three months, instead of just

511
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Speaker 2: doing it instantaneously like you're flipping a lice switch. Because again,

512
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Speaker 2: we're trying to be realistic here and we want you

513
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Speaker 2: to implement changes that are going to actually stick. We

514
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Speaker 2: don't want you to feel the sting of defeat yet again.

515
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Speaker 2: So another way to help keep you on track then

516
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Speaker 2: is to split up that monthly budget amount just into

517
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Speaker 2: those equal installments for each trip. So again, if you

518
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Speaker 2: have a six hundred dollars grocery budget per month, so

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Speaker 2: let's say you hit up the store once a week,

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Speaker 2: well we're talking about one hundred and fifty bucks. One

521
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars like that is roughly what you

522
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Speaker 2: should be spending each time. And so we're taking that large,

523
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Speaker 2: larger amount of six hundred dollars and we're breaking it

524
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Speaker 2: down into smaller, more manageable amounts of money in particular

525
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Speaker 2: that are anchored to time, that are anchored to each week,

526
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Speaker 2: because I think for a lot of people, they might

527
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Speaker 2: say six hundred bucks, that's my grocery budget for the month.

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Speaker 2: They go at the very beginning of March, they drop

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Speaker 2: three thirty because they buy some stuff they wouldn't normally

530
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Speaker 2: otherwise have gotten, and then they find themselves towards the

531
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Speaker 2: end of the month like, holy crap, how am I

532
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Speaker 2: going to keep this under wraps? But if you think

533
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Speaker 2: about it as one hundred and fifty dollars per trip

534
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Speaker 2: that you make, you're more likely to actually hit the

535
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Speaker 2: goal that you set. You're more likely to keep your

536
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Speaker 2: spending in check because you've brought it down to an

537
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Speaker 2: even more bite size, more manageable.

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Speaker 1: Spend amount, right right, Yeah, you're pacing yourself. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: And so I think meal planning is something else that

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Speaker 1: needs to be mentioned. I think budgeting is massively helpful,

541
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Speaker 1: and I think that rule of thumb is going to

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Speaker 1: help a lot of folks make more sense of their

543
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Speaker 1: grocery budget and at least kind of see, cool, what

544
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Speaker 1: are we spending of our take on pay?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Fifteen percent? Okay, Well we can get it down into

547
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Speaker 1: ten percent through some of the tips and tricks that

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Speaker 1: Matt and Joel talked about. But while we're discussing like

549
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Speaker 1: a weekly strategy, it's a good idea to plan your

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Speaker 1: meals in advance too. You know, pick a time each

551
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Speaker 1: week where you're gonna spend I don't know, like thirty

552
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Speaker 1: minutes or so thinking about the meals for the week

553
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Speaker 1: for the family or for you as an individual, and

554
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Speaker 1: what they're going to be. You know, knowing what you're

555
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Speaker 1: gonna be eating helps you make a grocery list, and

556
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Speaker 1: sticking to the list is one of the best ways

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Speaker 1: to make sure you don't overdo it and spend too

558
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Speaker 1: much at the store. So yeah, consider making extra two,

559
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Speaker 1: I'd say, but only if you're actually going to eat it.

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Speaker 1: Matt is the leftover king. I don't know, I love

561
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Speaker 1: the love anyone who love leftovers more than Matt.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I love them because I know

563
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Speaker 2: they saved me money and so I you know, like

564
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Speaker 2: when you have something that's associated with something else that

565
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Speaker 2: you like, you like that thing, Yeah, you like it

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Speaker 2: even more that one exactly. It's sort of like we're

567
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Speaker 2: talking about cooking earlier, Like if you can trick yourself

568
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Speaker 2: into doing something that will ultimately save you money, well,

569
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Speaker 2: it's like win win. Yeah. So I don't know if

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Speaker 2: I like actually like leftovers because I've convinced myself that

571
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Speaker 2: they taste better because I know that I'm saving myself money,

572
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Speaker 2: or if actually the flavors melt together and better, yeah,

573
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Speaker 2: after being in the refrigerator. So things that you know

574
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Speaker 2: where that's the case obviously not some things like French fries,

575
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Speaker 2: but other things like a asagna left over French fries

576
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Speaker 2: is just the worst, the worst. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But I think like meal plans and planning for leftovers

578
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Speaker 1: and then planning how to use and eat those leftovers

579
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Speaker 1: is smart. And a lot of people will like make

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Speaker 1: everything on a Sunday and then they'll put it in

581
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Speaker 1: the freezer. They'll freeze breakfast literally like breakfast burritos or

582
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Speaker 1: something like that, pull them out every single morning, he

583
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Speaker 1: eat them up and then it's like boom. I don't

584
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Speaker 1: even have to think about it. I already made it.

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Speaker 1: And I also know that I'm not going to be

586
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Speaker 1: stopping to get fast food on the way to work

587
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Speaker 1: because I planned my meals and I had it ready

588
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Speaker 1: in advance. So I think meal planning makes a lot

589
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Speaker 1: of sense. But you just also have to like, have

590
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Speaker 1: a plan to eat the stuff that you're making too,

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Speaker 1: if you're making extra.

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Speaker 2: That's right man. Yeah, So that's enough about planning, right,

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Speaker 2: let's get more tactical with it. Lessen envision that you're

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Speaker 2: there in the grocery store. What about sales?

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Speaker 1: I was like, you're about to say so, I was

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Speaker 1: just thinking. You said, envision you're in the grocery store,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, what if there was like a

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Speaker 1: metabverse app where you could put yourself in and al me,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's ideal. I'd consider great of the metaverse

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Speaker 1: for that. I've not been interested in the metaverse and

601
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Speaker 1: till I just thought of that thought.

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Speaker 2: So let's but but for real, though, if you are

603
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Speaker 2: at the grocery store and you see a sale, do

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Speaker 2: you take advantage of that sale or not? Well, I

605
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Speaker 2: like the idea of making a little bit of wiggle

606
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Speaker 2: room for some incredibly discounted food within your budget. So

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Speaker 2: for instance, getting that pork shoulder when it's been marked

608
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Speaker 2: down to a dollar per pound that is when you pounce.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like a recent example out of your life. That's

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Speaker 2: something I did recently bought two of those jokers, smoked

611
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Speaker 2: them both even though it wasn't necessarily planning on buying

612
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Speaker 2: one that day, the price necessitated it. But just make

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Speaker 2: sure that you aren't using a big time sale like

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Speaker 2: a manager special to justify a purchase that you shouldn't make.

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Speaker 1: Well, in this case, it sounds like the porkness. It

616
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Speaker 1: forced your hand on this, right.

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Speaker 2: I had no choice? Yeah, No, you definitely don't want

618
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Speaker 2: to make a purchase that fits that that doesn't fit

619
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Speaker 2: within how it is that you approach your groceries, right,

620
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Speaker 2: like it needs to fit within your your general grocery buying.

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Speaker 1: Those Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of people

622
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Speaker 1: might walk through the grocery store and then they walk

623
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Speaker 1: through the chip is on and they're like, thirty cents

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Speaker 1: off to ritos. Okay, I guess I'll sale, I'll toss

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Speaker 1: it in. And there's a lot of like fake sales

626
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Speaker 1: that go on in a lot of retailers, right, And

627
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Speaker 1: so it's just as if.

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Speaker 2: They're cool ranch or not. Repeets like oh yeah, that

629
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Speaker 2: electric the electric tingle, it's like taking your tongue to

630
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Speaker 2: a nine bolt battery. It's so good, which is true.

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Speaker 2: How do you resist cool.

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Speaker 1: Range Toritos are delightful, but they're also really expensive, and

633
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Speaker 1: they're and they're terrible, and they're terrible for you, and

634
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Speaker 1: they're the kind of thing that's gonna you know, bust

635
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Speaker 1: your grocery budget. And it's not it's you know, if

636
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Speaker 1: you like the nine volt battery tingle of a cool

637
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Speaker 1: range to rito from time to time, but put it

638
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Speaker 1: on your list once a month or something like that,

639
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: that's fine, Like you deserve you treat yourself every now

640
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Speaker 1: and again. But I think a lot of people are

641
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Speaker 1: prone to do it in the moment just because there's

642
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Speaker 1: a minor discount or minor sale. But when you're talking

643
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Speaker 1: like a dollar a pound for pork shoulder, that's that's different.

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Speaker 1: And that's like, that's a lot of meals from yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know one one one buy right there, totally. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: even if it wasn't on the list, I think it

647
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Speaker 1: makes sense to hop on it.

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Speaker 2: Well, sure, and that's a basic protein that you can

649
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Speaker 2: then incorporate into other meals. And again, some folks don't

650
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Speaker 2: cook this way, but if you know that you've got

651
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Speaker 2: a couple containers of pulled pork in your fridge, the

652
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Speaker 2: ability to then use that, Oh all right, let's make

653
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Speaker 2: some barbacue sandwiches. Oh okay, let's let's make some fried rice.

654
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Speaker 2: Oh okay, let's take that meat and incorporate it into

655
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Speaker 2: a pazzole. That's literally something. These are all meals that

656
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Speaker 2: I've our family made last week, okay. And so when

657
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Speaker 2: something like that comes along and it's got legs right

658
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Speaker 2: that you can then apply to other meals, that's something

659
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Speaker 2: you want to pounce off. Yeah, okay.

660
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Speaker 1: So one other thing I think they can help when

661
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Speaker 1: you are buying something like a pork shoulder, which just

662
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Speaker 1: because it's on discount, is if you have a deep freezer,

663
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Speaker 1: and that's oh yeah. One of the biggest problems when

664
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Speaker 1: you're stocking up or something like that because of a

665
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Speaker 1: sale is when groceries are are perishable. That can make

666
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Speaker 1: it more difficult to do that, right, So non perishables,

667
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Speaker 1: buying extra cans of something that you know you're going

668
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Speaker 1: to use because it's on sale. Oh hey, soup is

669
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Speaker 1: half price, boom, let me get a couple of extra those.

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Speaker 2: That's fine.

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Speaker 1: But when you're talking about things that are parish it's

672
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Speaker 1: harder to justify that. But I think a deep freezer

673
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Speaker 1: can make that more justifiable because then you haven't wasted money.

674
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Speaker 1: I completely wasted money. I'm buying the thing and not

675
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Speaker 1: using which would be the absolute worst. There's nothing that

676
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Speaker 1: gets under gets under my skin. Is like an ingredient

677
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Speaker 1: that we haven't used, in particular vegetables, right, Like, you

678
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Speaker 1: got that produce and sometimes it starts getting slimy and

679
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Speaker 1: you have to freaking toss it.

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Speaker 2: I hate that. There's nothing that strikes out my heart

681
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Speaker 2: more than taking food that we've purchased with our own

682
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Speaker 2: money and we just didn't have a chance, or we

683
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Speaker 2: chose not to use that vegetable in something and I

684
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Speaker 2: got a toss in the trash.

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Speaker 1: Well, eating and not wasting what you buy is one

686
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Speaker 1: of the biggest, biggest ways to save money too, because

687
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Speaker 1: such a huge percentage of well our grocery bill goes

688
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Speaker 1: to stuff that we throw in the trash, which is

689
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Speaker 1: a crying shame. So we do have to get better

690
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Speaker 1: at that. But I think the like the freezer. A

691
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Speaker 1: lot of us think that's where we just put the

692
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Speaker 1: ice cream or something like that. But depending on the

693
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Speaker 1: size of your family, how you shop, what you eat,

694
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Speaker 1: and the amount of space in your house, you know,

695
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Speaker 1: getting a deep freezer might pay off in the long run.

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Speaker 1: For example, Matt, my my father in law, he buys

697
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Speaker 1: like half a cow at a time. Yeah, and so

698
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Speaker 1: it's chopped up into all these different ways. But the

699
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Speaker 1: price per pound is I want to say, he said,

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Speaker 1: like three dollars a pound, which is insane because that's

701
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Speaker 1: what you pay just for ground beef. And he's getting

702
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Speaker 1: steaks and roasts and stuff like that out of it.

703
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Speaker 1: The Yeah, but he had to buy a whole rack

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Speaker 1: of rabbis. Sure well, sure, but he had to buy

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Speaker 1: a deep freeze in order to make that make sense.

706
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Speaker 1: And so for some folks, spending money on a deep

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Speaker 1: freeze can actually pay off in the long run.

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Speaker 2: Joe, you're making a case for me winning a deep

709
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Speaker 2: freeze right now. But let's talk about coupons, and generally speaking, Joel,

710
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Speaker 2: you and I were both in agreement that coupons are overrated.

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Speaker 2: The typical family, they save somewhere between five to nine

712
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Speaker 2: dollars a week using coupons, and depending on how much

713
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Speaker 2: you're spending on groceries every week, this could be chump

714
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Speaker 2: change or it could actually be a meaningful amount of money.

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Speaker 2: But just make sure that you're thinking about the overall

716
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Speaker 2: ROI before you go coupon crazy, right, Like, it's possible

717
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Speaker 2: to be penny wise and pound foolish here just by

718
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Speaker 2: hunting and clipping actual physical coupons. When the savings that

719
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Speaker 2: they'll net you they may not necessarily be worth the

720
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Speaker 2: time coupony. It might make sense for some folks out there,

721
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Speaker 2: but others should probably spend that time focused on more

722
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Speaker 2: important aspects of their money. Some stores out there that

723
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Speaker 2: you know, they've got apps that make it easy. Certainly

724
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Speaker 2: make sure that you're a part of their loyalty program,

725
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Speaker 2: give them that phone number if they've got that program,

726
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Speaker 2: if they've got that as an option, and also check

727
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Speaker 2: out the site flip dot com. That's flipp dot com,

728
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Speaker 2: but they it's a site. Man. I love aggregate sites

729
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Speaker 2: that bring together all like bits of information that you

730
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Speaker 2: would normally have to kind of go scouring for. But

731
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Speaker 2: they combine all the different circulars that the different grocery

732
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Speaker 2: stores have, so you can see what is going to

733
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Speaker 2: be marked down, what's going to be on clearance, what's

734
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Speaker 2: going to be on sale.

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Speaker 1: It's easy to kind of plot your plan of attack

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Speaker 1: for where you're going to go shopping that week based

737
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Speaker 1: on sale flyers by looking at Flip as opposed to

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Speaker 1: waiting for this actual print section to come out. Flip's

739
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Speaker 1: really cool to makes it easy. Well, and Matt, I

740
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Speaker 1: don't really I'm with you. I'm against couponing as well.

741
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Speaker 1: I use coupons when they're easy and Kroger.

742
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Speaker 2: When I go to.

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Speaker 1: Kroger for some of the things that I can't get

744
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Speaker 1: it all to your costco, I use Kroger coupons because

745
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Speaker 1: the digital coupons are pretty simple and they send actual

746
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Speaker 1: coupons and stuff that I typically buy directly to my house.

747
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Speaker 1: It's literally based on things that I've bought in the past,

748
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Speaker 1: and they say, here's sixty percent off a thing of

749
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Speaker 1: spinach because you buy spinach here sometimes, so that kind

750
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Speaker 1: of stuff is I'll use those coupons when it's low

751
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Speaker 1: hanging fruit. But I'm not like searching the internet for

752
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Speaker 1: coupons because I think for most people that's a waste

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Speaker 1: of time.

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Speaker 2: And Kroger's they've actually got a pretty decent app as

755
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Speaker 2: well that you can keep on your phone.

756
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think it's helpful to have that app

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Speaker 1: for the stores that you're most loyal to. I have

758
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Speaker 1: the Legal app on my phone as well. Because sometimes

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Speaker 1: I get discounts there. And speaking of lethal, I think

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Speaker 1: where you shop is probably one of the biggest difference

761
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Speaker 1: makers when it comes to butchering your grocery budget and

762
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Speaker 1: legal and all the We talked about them all the

763
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Speaker 1: time time because they're two of the best nationwide discount

764
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Speaker 1: grocery chains that you can shop at. Trader Joe's are

765
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Speaker 1: a lovely slightly more expensive alternative, but like, if you

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Speaker 1: have one of those three close to you, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: save money by going there. And these stores they don't

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Speaker 1: even have to play the coupon game. They don't really

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Speaker 1: get into it at all, largely because their prices are

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Speaker 1: so incredibly low already. But just changing this one part

771
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Speaker 1: of the grocery equation in your life, you could claw

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Speaker 1: back a huge percentage of your grocery budget seemingly overnight.

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Speaker 1: And even when you compare a list of basic items

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Speaker 1: between Aldi and Walmart, Walmart, which prides themselves on low prices,

775
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Speaker 1: they're known for low prices. If you compare Walmart to Aldi,

776
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Speaker 1: wins by a landslides. Even still, yeah, even still, even

777
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Speaker 1: though Walmart is cheaper than a lot of the alternatives,

778
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Speaker 1: all these cheaper than them, and it wouldn't be outrageous

779
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Speaker 1: to see something like a twenty percent reduction in what

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Speaker 1: you're spending each month just by doing this one thing.

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Speaker 1: And if you're shopping at Whole Foods, you're going to

782
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Speaker 1: see an even bigger discount in what you're spending if

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Speaker 1: you move to.

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Speaker 2: Aldi, that's right. But simultaneously, there might be some items

785
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Speaker 2: that you can't get at Aldi that you would You

786
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Speaker 2: know that you might have to go to Walmart four

787
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Speaker 2: But you mentioned twenty percent, dude. Back when we before

788
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Speaker 2: the Aldi near us had opened up, we were doing

789
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Speaker 2: like the majority of our grocery shopping at Kroger. And

790
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Speaker 2: once we started shopping at Aldi, literally overnight, we saw

791
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Speaker 2: a thirty percent reduction in our grocery budget. That's insane,

792
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Speaker 2: Like it literally felt like magic because we weren't even

793
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Speaker 2: necessarily trying to reduce how much we were spending. We

794
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: just switched where it was that we were shopping. We

795
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Speaker 2: saw a massive decline.

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Speaker 1: That's like, it really is like the easiest thing to do.

797
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Speaker 1: There's all these little ways really eat around the edges.

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Speaker 1: It's the easy button, but that's the easy button to

799
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Speaker 1: save the biggest it is, But we were kind of

800
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Speaker 1: talking about Walmart and how they certainly have more options

801
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Speaker 1: than Aldy. The trade offs of stores like letal like

802
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: Aldi are that you're going to have fewer options, and

803
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Speaker 1: so instead of there being like eighty two ketchup bottles

804
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: that you can you can pick from, you're gonna only

805
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: have like one, maybe two if you're lucky, And we

806
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: actually kind of see this as a plus. But also

807
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: your grocery trips are going to be shorter just because

808
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: of the print of these stores are going to be smaller,

809
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Speaker 1: and you're not gonna have to spend as much time

810
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: comparing the unit prices between all those different varieties of this,

811
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Speaker 1: you know, exact same thing. And you know, we get

812
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Speaker 1: that this is not for everyone out there, But if

813
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Speaker 1: you haven't tried some of the discount grocery stores like Aldi,

814
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 1: like Legal, and you are looking to trim your grocery budget,

815
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Speaker 1: then you have got to at least give us one

816
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: a shot. Yeah, So, not only are you gonna save

817
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: money those discount groceries, but also you're gonna spend less time,

818
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Speaker 1: which sounds nice too and plays out in reality. Man,

819
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Speaker 1: my trips to letle are quicker. Although in all these

820
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: the little carts for the kids, and so I did

821
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Speaker 1: take take a little longer. Legles are bigger, dude, like

822
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: leadles are twice as I bet on average. If there's

823
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Speaker 1: any sort of research out there, the size of the

824
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: Kroger still much smaller than Kroger, way smaller than Costco.

825
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: But I mean, I used to pride myself in being

826
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Speaker 1: able to literally get in and out of an Ald

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Speaker 1: with a thing of milk and eggs in like ninety

828
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Speaker 1: six because they're just they're so quick at the register

829
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Speaker 1: and it's so easy to get back there to the

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Speaker 1: cool they really are. I will say that all the

831
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Speaker 1: the people that work here incredible.

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Speaker 2: They know what I want.

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Speaker 1: They have fewer just to get out of there as

834
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Speaker 1: fast as possible, but they pay them more and they

835
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: like they crush it so well. Okay, something else though

836
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Speaker 1: on that front, Like it's not just the major discounts,

837
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: so you can check out there are also like smaller

838
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: independent discount stores and you can find one near you

839
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Speaker 1: at a site like buy Salvage food dot com and

840
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Speaker 1: Matt there's one thirty minutes from us. I haven't been

841
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: there yet because it's thirty minutes from us. It's not

842
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 1: four minutes away, like the groceries s are I typically

843
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: go to, but it's it's one that I want to

844
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Speaker 1: go to because they're they're selling kind of salvage dented,

845
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Speaker 1: secondhand food items, but it's still good food and they're

846
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: selling it for a whole lot less. And yeah, so

847
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Speaker 1: we'll put a link to that one in the show notes.

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Speaker 1: But it's one that you can totally check, like check

849
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Speaker 1: out if there's one within five or ten minutes of you.

850
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Speaker 1: It might save you a ton of money by going

851
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Speaker 1: to one of these stores that's not doesn't have a

852
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: nationally recognized name, but you can you know they've got

853
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: great prices that are going to save you money. Misfit

854
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: Market is kind of the modern version of these independent

855
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: discount stores as well. You know that you would find

856
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: on that buy Salvage website they've got lots of organic

857
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: items as well.

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Speaker 2: I just signed up.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give this one a chance. I've I've never

860
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: given it a go yet, but like it's basically giving

861
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: you access to nice foods at a discount that they

862
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Speaker 1: will ship directly to your door.

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Speaker 2: Very cool, and if you are not interested in the

864
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: mega discounters or in trying a new service like that.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget about one of the easiest ways to save

866
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Speaker 2: at the grocery store, which is buying store brands. Name

867
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Speaker 2: brand items are going to crush your grocery build most

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Speaker 2: of the time. Trader Joe's and Costco they have some

869
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 2: of the best store brands in my opinion. I feel

870
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 2: like Trader Joe's in particular, they've got they've got certain

871
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 2: items that have a cult light filew Yeah, although did

872
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: you do we talk about the lead and cadmium and

873
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: dark chocolate, we haven't some of the Trader Joe's dark

874
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: chocolates are on that list of Hi, well, it's a

875
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: lot of the dark chocolates, right, it is. But maybe

876
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 2: welling to that story as well. But there are some,

877
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: certainly some ones out there that are a little bit

878
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: safer if you like to eat a little bit of

879
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,959
Speaker 2: dark chocolate every day. It's funny because you talk about

880
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: how like there's certain things like dark chocolate that are

881
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: good for your health. They got those flavonoids and all

882
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 2: that kind of action going on, But you can't. You

883
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: never want to overdo it in anyone area before it

884
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: like turns around and like bites you By.

885
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: The way, flavonoids totally sounds like a word you just

886
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: made up.

887
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: Maybe I did. I'm pretty sure that's a real word.

888
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 2: But we're talking about name brands and data from Consumer

889
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 2: Reports they say that store brands cost between five and

890
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: seventy two percent less than their name brand counterparts. And

891
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: actually when Consumer Reports, when they ran a taste test,

892
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: they found that seventy six percent of store brand products

893
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: tasted just as good as the name brand. So we

894
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 2: wanted to mention that because maybe you're you're being name

895
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 2: brand loyal for no reason. And while we're talking about

896
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: some of these different stores as well, I want to

897
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: give Costco a little more love since, in particular for

898
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: our family, there are our latest store that is certainly

899
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: getting more of our dollars. But the ability to buy

900
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: bulk is huge. And when you're used to buying small

901
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: packs of stuff at some stores, but then you can

902
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 2: go to a store like Costco and buy a massive,

903
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 2: double or triple pack of something, there is serious savings

904
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: involved there, whether it's chicken thighs or whether it's like

905
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: a giant thing of rice or a giant thing of oil.

906
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: But what's key and this kind of speaks to like

907
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: the waste side of things. What's key is to when

908
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: you get home to break those things down. And so

909
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 2: if we're talking like we're talking about chicken thighs, like

910
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 2: literally take them out of the packaging and just go

911
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: ahead and package those into like ziploc bags of portion

912
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: sizes that you know that you will typically cook with. Yeah,

913
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: same thing with like oil, because like at Costco they

914
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: got like that. I don't know. It's like a gallon

915
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 2: and a half container thing of olive oil. And you think,

916
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: how the heck am I supposed to cook with that? Well,

917
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: you don't. You take that home and fill up your

918
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: little small oil bottle that you keep next to your

919
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: stove and you're gonna fry up some eggs. There are

920
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 2: things like you buy bulk in order to save, but

921
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 2: then you break it down in order to actually use

922
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: those things and not let them go to waste.

923
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Speaker 1: Yep, No, I like that, all right, Matt. We've got

924
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: more grocery store saving tips that we want to get to,

925
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: including like apps they can help be saved. We'll talk

926
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: about that, and there are a couple others we'll get

927
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,479
Speaker 1: to as well. We'll get to those, right for this.

928
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: All right, we are still talking about some of the

929
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: different ways that you can butcher your grocery bill. Joel,

930
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 2: do you do you think that folks are getting hungry

931
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 2: as we're sitting here talking about.

932
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: All the different kind of they probably want to taste here,

933
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: like pork and bananas or whatever it was that you

934
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: were making fizzole.

935
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: The uh, it's like a Mexican soup. But let's kind

936
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 2: of tackle some I guess some of these more actionable

937
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: practical tips that we've got for folks in order to

938
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: reduce the grocery bill. And one of those is to

939
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: avoid processed foods. The old maximum of shopping around the

940
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: periphery of the grocery store is pretty accurate because that

941
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: is where you're going to find fruits and veggies. That's

942
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: where you're gonna find the meat and the eggs, the milk. Right, Like,

943
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: what we're talking about here is real foods as opposed

944
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: to potato chips, the cookies, candy, pre prepared foods and

945
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: saying those Totino's pizzas aren't good for me, Matt, they

946
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: don't count man, and those often aren't going to be

947
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 2: as good for you, right or as feeling and so

948
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 2: we want to encourage folks to eat real foods whenever

949
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: you can. You are your own person, so you can

950
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: eat whatever you want. We're not your mom. But by

951
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 2: eating eating these whole real foods, it's going to be

952
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: better for you. It's going to help your waistline, it'll

953
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: help your like what you're spending on groceries as well,

954
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: not just processed foods, but the ability to avoid processed

955
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: drinks as well. I think that's an area where a

956
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 2: lot of folks can say of like juices and spending

957
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: money on coke, Sonny D. These are I mean, for one,

958
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: they're empty calories, but too like man, those things, these

959
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: things are loaded with sugar, and you don't necessarily need

960
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: to be spending your money on that. Again, you are you,

961
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 2: You're an adulting. You do what you want to do.

962
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 2: And I know this is coming from the dude who

963
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 2: likes They always hear me talking about how my beer,

964
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: Oh I should have had a little more sugar. Yeah,

965
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: I get it, like I like things to be a

966
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: little bit sweet, but I'm owning it, you know, Like

967
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 2: craft beer is my craft beer equivalent, right, I'm willing

968
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 2: to spend money that isn't necessarily helping my health because

969
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 2: I really enjoy If you really love sunny D, Joel,

970
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 2: you buy that sunny D, but don't think you're necessarily

971
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 2: buying groceries with it. I'm sure.

972
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, those are the kind of expenditures you're right,

973
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: that are. It's you're getting calories, but you're not necessarily

974
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: getting the good kind, getting the.

975
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: Filling stuff exactly.

976
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: Well, on that note, like should people buy organics, I

977
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: think that's another question that people have because organics are

978
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: certainly more expensive and different folks have different priorities on

979
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: this front too, So we're not trying to be uber

980
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: prescriptive here, but the price gap between organics and non

981
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 1: it often depends on this specific item, right, Because organic eggs,

982
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: they're not much more than regular ones at costco. Organic milk,

983
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: it feels like it's like twice as expensive, if not more,

984
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: it's a bit more. So yeah, it depends on what

985
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: your priorities are. And you might say cool, I'm like me,

986
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: I don't mind spending a dollar more for the organic eggs,

987
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna spend six dollars more for the

988
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: organic milk. And so yeah, this is another example of

989
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: how where you shop play such a massive role in

990
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: how much you spend because Walmart is the largest organic

991
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: retailer in existence, and their prices are going to be

992
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: much more afford than it whole Foods, for example. But

993
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: you know we can all make different trade offs at

994
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: different stages of our lives. Is we have different amounts

995
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: of disposable income specifically to spend on food, and for

996
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: some you might prioritize cost over everything else, so you

997
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: might say no to organic at every turn. But there

998
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: are ways to buy affordable organic products too. I think

999
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: that deserves to be mentioned. And there are a lot

1000
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: of people who just prioritize that strongly for like everything

1001
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: they buy. And there are other people who say, I'm

1002
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: gonna pick and choose the organic so I want to

1003
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: bring into my life. But I think it's possible to

1004
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: do the organic thing without completely breaking your budget.

1005
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, Costco that's where you buy your organic

1006
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 2: toilet paper, only the finest for your tush. Another tip

1007
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: is we would recommend for folks to use the right

1008
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 2: credit card. We've recently talked about this, but the American

1009
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 2: Express Blue Cash Preferred will snag you six percent cash

1010
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: back at the grocery store on up to six thousand

1011
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 2: dollars of expenses a year. And man, speaking of Aldi again,

1012
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: when they started taking credit cards a few years back,

1013
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: the choir of angels we're singing in mist I still

1014
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: remember that day. It was such a big stinking deal because, like, that's.

1015
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: An extra six percent I'm saving on all groceries from

1016
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: here on.

1017
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: Housital it was the only place I was using my

1018
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: stupid debit card. Yes, every single it was like, literally

1019
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: the only place I used a debit card. Two. I

1020
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: don't think I've pulled that thing out ever since then.

1021
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: But being able to shop with this card is going

1022
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: to mean that they're already low prices. If you use

1023
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: that card, they're going to get six percent better overnight,

1024
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 2: like instantly. But of course, only use this card or

1025
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: any credit card, like we discussed last week, if you

1026
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: can pay that bill off on time and in full

1027
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: every month. But if we're talking about easy ways to

1028
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 2: save more money on groceries, this is certainly one of them.

1029
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 2: And you can get the annual fee Wade for the

1030
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,479
Speaker 2: first year right now. In addition to that two hundred

1031
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 2: and fifty dollars sign up bonus will make sure to

1032
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 2: link to that card in the show notes for this episode.

1033
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: For sure.

1034
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: That's one that both of us use weekly, for sure. Yeah,

1035
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: and okay, so what about apps that help you save two?

1036
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: And we've talked about the actual proprietary apps that the

1037
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: grocery stores have themselves. Almost every grocery store has their

1038
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,479
Speaker 1: own app, and you can download that and find ways

1039
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: to save there, which I think is good. When you

1040
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: buy into their ecosystem, they offer you extra perks, and

1041
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: that's great. You should totally do that. But there are

1042
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: other third party apps that are worth considering. Two flash

1043
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: food is a new one, at least one that I

1044
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: hadn't heard of until recently, that offers significant discounts, at

1045
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 1: least in some parts of the country for buying items

1046
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: from grocery stores that are just about to expire.

1047
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: So that's kind of cool.

1048
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: You're kind of preventing something from going into the landfill

1049
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: and you're getting a sweet discount at the same time.

1050
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: I like that one.

1051
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: I look to see if it was available here near

1052
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: where we live at Sadly no, but maybe soon, maybe soon.

1053
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: But Ibata is probably one of the best known apps

1054
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: that will earn you cash back for taking a picture

1055
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: of your receipt after you check out, you got to

1056
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: jump through a couple of hoops. But these can be

1057
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, the coupons we talked about earlier.

1058
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: They might be easier than going out there and pecking

1059
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 1: and hunting for coupons to use at the grocery store,

1060
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: but they also might not be worth the hassle. But

1061
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: it's at least worth looking into. You know, some people

1062
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 1: swear by apps like Ibota, and they say they save,

1063
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: they get tough to cash back just by kind of

1064
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: doing the shopping they normally do. But so much really

1065
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 1: comes down to you, how you shop and how annoyed

1066
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: you get by these apps trying to like having to

1067
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: constantly interact with them.

1068
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: That's true. All right, Let's get to the most dad

1069
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: like advice that we can offer when it comes to

1070
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 2: saving more on groceries, and this advice is to eat

1071
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: what you've got. And yes, again, what a clean plate

1072
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 2: out there, folks, Happy Plate club? Did y'all ever do that?

1073
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 2: I know a lot of folks do the Happy Plate sometimes,

1074
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: but you know, definitely eat your leftovers, of course, But

1075
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 2: this also means that you should be cleaning out your

1076
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: pantry or your fridge or your freezer. Super cook this

1077
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: is a cool site that can help you to create

1078
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: a recipe based on the items that you have on hand.

1079
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: Of course, if it's just cookies, right, like if you

1080
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: just got oreos and some burritos and like a random

1081
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Speaker 2: chicken thigh, you're gonna have a tough time.

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Speaker 1: That would be a really interesting meal. Though most likely

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00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 1: hopefully could you make a crumble and bake it? Bake

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Speaker 1: that chicken thigh in it? Hopfef you're not down to

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00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 1: the like the dregs to that point. But it's smart

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00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: I think to make this a game like that, right

1087
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: because if you're aiming high and an attempt to keep

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Speaker 1: your grocery budget low, we'll trying to make meals out

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Speaker 1: of what you've got on hand. Is a way to

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Speaker 1: gamify things in order to stretch your budget.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of Oftentimes you'll see different folks taking

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Speaker 2: on the challenge of like just only eating out of

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00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: your paintry or your copverared where you're only allowed to

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00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: go to the grocery store for like for fresh veggies

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00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: or milk and eggs. Right, But a of course, we

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00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: do want you to eat healthy, balanced meals. But I

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00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 2: think there's a way that we could also challenge ourselves

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Speaker 2: to not buy more of the non perishables that are

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Speaker 2: already lining the shelves of our paintry.

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Speaker 1: All right, So another last suggestion would be just to

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Speaker 1: eat less in general. And I think we get especially

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Speaker 1: when we got to eat. Think about the portion sizes.

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00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 1: When you go out to eat in a foreign country,

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00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: you don't get portions that big. But for some reason

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00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: here in the States, we just have just something in ore,

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00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: and if it's on our plate, we just assume that's

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Speaker 1: what we're supposed to eat, and so we do. And

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00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: and so a lot of us are just eating more

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00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: than we actually should, and it's led to us becoming

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Speaker 1: a pretty fat and overweight nation. In reality, the latest

1111
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: data reports is something like two percent of US adults

1112
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Speaker 1: are considered to be medically obese.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nearly half of it.

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Speaker 1: Just tragic, all adults, tragic because not only is that

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Speaker 1: expanding your food budget, it's just massively harmful to your health.

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Speaker 1: And now we're like prescribing drugs to help care OBC

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00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: instead of making a national push towards changing habits, which

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00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: would lead to healthier outcomes I think so, Yeah, it's

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00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: just eating less in general and eating healthier whole foods

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Speaker 1: kind of like you talked about earlier, Matt, instead of

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Speaker 1: eating a lot of the processed craft that we normally

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00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: get in the center of the grocery store. That's going

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Speaker 1: to make a big difference in how we feel and

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Speaker 1: how much we spend in money on food.

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Speaker 2: Totally. Yeah, And unfortunately, I think it's sort of become

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00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: taboo to say that, and we will acknowledge that, like

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00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 2: genetics play role, right, Like not everybody can work out

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Speaker 2: multiple times a week if they're looking to lose weight,

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00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: but the ability to reduce how much we're consuming like

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00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: that is something that is available to everybody, and it's

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00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 2: just it's kind of crazy that that is not something

1132
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: that is talked about more not to mention and this

1133
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: is our whole angle. It also saves you money, and.

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Speaker 1: So for some reason it's become off limits, which I

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00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: don't like because it's kind of something we've been able

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00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: to talk about openly for decades and decades and decades

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Speaker 1: and hundreds.

1138
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Speaker 2: And thousands of years.

1139
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you make it off limits to talk about,

1140
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: then people can't receive the help they need.

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Speaker 2: I think. Yeah, so, bottom line groceries are a big

1142
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 2: line item in all of our lives, and the past

1143
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 2: year has certainly made shopping for food feel even worse

1144
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 2: because inflation. It's been a massive pain for everyone. Egg

1145
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 2: prices are actually coming down now, but they're still expensive.

1146
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: But the tactics that we mentioned today, if they're not

1147
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: going to stop the macroeconomic environment, but it can help

1148
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 2: you to take some more control over the expenses in

1149
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: your own life. And you know, when this is with

1150
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: food and cooking, when that's something that you do multiple

1151
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 2: times a day, you may as well get good at it. Yeah,

1152
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: you know, you were talking about breathing earlier. It kind

1153
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: of makes me think about driving, like that's something that

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00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 2: most people do, and there might be some folks who

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Speaker 2: are better at it who enjoy it more, there might

1156
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: be some folks who don't enjoy it as much, or

1157
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Speaker 2: there might be some folks who are terrible at it.

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Speaker 2: But just because if you were to say, though, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm just not good at it and you get in

1160
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: like a fender bender every single week, you don't just

1161
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 2: like throwing the towel and say I'm just not good

1162
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 2: at driving. No, like you take tekend ubers everywhere, you

1163
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 2: take steps to make sure that that you turn into

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00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 2: a better driver, right like, whether that's paying closer attention

1165
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 2: to the road, or driving slower, or finding different times

1166
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: of the day to get to where you need to go,

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Speaker 2: there are steps that you're doing a coach but in

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Speaker 2: the in a similar way, I feel similarly about food,

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Speaker 2: you may as well learn how to do it well,

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Speaker 2: you may as well enjoy it, and obviously along the

1171
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: way by doing those things, you're gonna find ways to

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Speaker 2: make it more affordable, saving you money that you'll then

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Speaker 2: be able to funnel into other areas of your life.

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Speaker 1: For sure, all right, I agree, And so hopefully all

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Speaker 1: our listeners are able to cut back in big ways

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Speaker 1: at the grocery store. And you know, if you've got

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Speaker 1: other grocery shopping tips, we'd love to hear it. You

1178
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: can always reach out to us where it how to

1179
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Speaker 1: money pot at email dot Matt. Let's get back to

1180
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Speaker 1: the beer that we had on this episode. This one

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Speaker 1: was called Darken to barrel Age Sour Brown Ale from

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Speaker 1: upland Sour Ales in Bloomington, Indiana. What were your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on this one?

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Speaker 2: Man? Yeah, I see on the back of a battle

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Speaker 2: here it says a blended work of art, this was

1186
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Speaker 2: a really really interesting beer. So it's a brown ale,

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Speaker 2: but it was a sour brown. What tasted like was

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Speaker 2: then married with the spices from a Belgian quad, not

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Speaker 2: the yeasts, right, So it doesn't have like that the

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Speaker 2: sweetness that you get with Belgian beers that you get

1191
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Speaker 2: from the yeast, but it totally had the like the

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Speaker 2: Belgian spices going on, and so it had the darker

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Speaker 2: sour funk, but then it had these notes of like Christmas.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like when you get a song stuck in

1195
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 2: your head and you're like, wait, why can't I get this?

1196
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Speaker 2: Like what is it about this? I feel like that's

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Speaker 2: what this sort of had going on with those Belgian spices. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Well, on the back it says that it was kind

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Speaker 1: of trying to imitate the ood Bruin style, which is

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Speaker 1: like sour brown, right, which is a traditionally Belgian style

1201
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: sour and which I love in that style beer so.

1202
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: Much sense, but said this had this is incredibly unique. Yeah,

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00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: it's like the alternate take on that, very differently than

1204
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 2: a nude brune. Well, of course.

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00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: Americans, you know, don't like to shake it up, do

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Speaker 1: things differently. So this is an American take on a

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Speaker 1: Belgian style beer, and I really like, I really liked it.

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Speaker 1: But you're right, it definitely had some different vibes and

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00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: different spice action going on. But I mean, anytime someone

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Speaker 1: says they're making an ood bruin, like give it to me,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it.

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Speaker 2: Anytime that there's somebody making a barrel aged yes, anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the oak. The oak came through in a big

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00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: way on this one too, for sure. So all right,

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Speaker 1: that's going to do it for this episode, though, Matt.

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Speaker 1: For for folks who want links to some of the

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Speaker 1: resources we mentioned, we mentioned a lot today specific apps

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Speaker 1: and sites where you can go to save money on groceries,

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Speaker 1: well we'll list all those up on our site at

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Speaker 1: howtomoney dot com.

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Speaker 2: And not only are the resources up there from this

1222
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: specific episode, but we've got a lot of new content

1223
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Speaker 2: up there on the site. We've got obviously the show notes,

1224
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 2: but just other articles, other helpful content, the credit card tool.

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00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 2: There are a ton of fantastic resources up there for you,

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Speaker 2: so we wanted to mention those as well. But Joel,

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Speaker 2: that's going to be it for this episode until next time.

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Speaker 2: Best Friends Out, best Friends Out,