Speaker 1: That's that's that's the thing. Just take photos of his
Speaker 1: children walking into the door of their public school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: send him to him with the pro pro protonomail account.
Speaker 1: Don't let him know what he did to provoke this.
Speaker 1: Just just frighten him. I do like that. Els is
Speaker 1: very recorded. Yeah, that's that's how you do it. With
Speaker 1: the episode has begun. We're improuding all of that, Sofie,
Speaker 1: all of that Welcome today could happen here the podcast
Speaker 1: where we will take pictures of your children entering a
Speaker 1: public school and send them to you as a threat.
Speaker 1: But we won't tell you what you're we're threatening you
Speaker 1: over because that's I don't know what that is, probably
Speaker 1: terrorism technically speaking, speaking of child abuse. Great Garrison very
Speaker 1: proud nailed it. Yeah. Yeah, So we're gonna be We're
Speaker 1: gonna we're doing an episode to talk about the recent
Speaker 1: kind of letter and opinion piece that the Governor of
Speaker 1: Texas and the Attorney general wrote relating to trans kids
Speaker 1: in Texas. We're we're also planning like a like a
Speaker 1: more like a week long worth of stuff kind of
Speaker 1: going into this issue across not not just the States,
Speaker 1: but also like like internationally as well in terms of
Speaker 1: like the growing kind of war on trans people. But
Speaker 1: because this thing happened, we we do want to kind
Speaker 1: of talk about it now as well before we you know,
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time making a week long is
Speaker 1: the worth of of of scripted pieces on it. So anyway,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about what happened last last weekend
Speaker 1: or last week at time of recording, UM when the
Speaker 1: Texas Attorney General, Kent Paxton released an opinion piece UM
Speaker 1: on I think it was it was Monday the twenty one,
Speaker 1: declaring gender affirming medical care for transgender children to be
Speaker 1: child abuse UM. In response, the next day, UH, the
Speaker 1: Governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, directed the Texas Department of
Speaker 1: Family and Protective Services UM to investigate these practices UM
Speaker 1: and then kind of on that following Wednesday, the letter
Speaker 1: that Greg Gabbott wrote went viral, detailing both the Attorney
Speaker 1: general's kind of opinion that a number of the so
Speaker 1: called quote sex change procedures constitute child abuse under existing
Speaker 1: Texas law UM and directing the Family and Protective Services
Speaker 1: to protect these to quote unquote protect these kids from abuse.
Speaker 1: And I hear by director agency to conduct a prompt
Speaker 1: in through investigation to any reported instances of these abusive procedures. UM.
Speaker 1: And what's really insidious is that like it's not even
Speaker 1: it's like, of course, like there is not gender affirming
Speaker 1: surgery done on minors anyway, that does not happen. Um.
Speaker 1: But the but this letter actually does UM go into
Speaker 1: UM says uh. It's it says uh. According according to
Speaker 1: the general in general opinion, it's already against the law
Speaker 1: to subject Texas children to a wide variety of elective
Speaker 1: procedures for gender transitioning, including reassignment surgeries that can cause sterilization,
Speaker 1: removals of otherwise healthy body parts, and administration of puberty
Speaker 1: blocking drugs or doses of testosterone or estrogen. So it's
Speaker 1: not it is also including HRT, including puberty blockers, which
Speaker 1: again we already give to sis gender children all the time. UM.
Speaker 1: Puberty blockers are given to kids who have early onset
Speaker 1: prebuty who assists UM. But it's now including puberty blockers
Speaker 1: inside like constituting that in its in and of itself
Speaker 1: as child abuse, which is an escalation of things that
Speaker 1: we've seen before. UM. Yeah, And then it's also talking
Speaker 1: about how Texas law imposes reporting requirements upon all licensed professionals, um,
Speaker 1: including doctors and nurses, teachers, therapists, and provides you know,
Speaker 1: criminal penalties for failure to report things. So like it
Speaker 1: is that that was that was that was the that
Speaker 1: was the main part of the of the letter, that
Speaker 1: one viral detailing the different different ways that they're trying
Speaker 1: to harass, intimidate, and um introduce possible legal legal repercussions
Speaker 1: to parents and um, you know, caregivers who support transgender
Speaker 1: youth inside the state of Texas. Oh yeah, um it is.
Speaker 1: It is like the perfect example of the thing these
Speaker 1: people always do when they make laws based on their bigotry,
Speaker 1: which is like reflexively make a law based on whatever
Speaker 1: is like the fucking Twitter talking point that they've been
Speaker 1: yelling about, and then don't consider all of the different
Speaker 1: things that it's going to do that have nothing to
Speaker 1: do with the group of people they're trying to hurt.
Speaker 1: And lots of cases, this is just gonna it's it's
Speaker 1: not even gonna it's it's gonna impact a lot of
Speaker 1: like queer people in general, right because it's it's in
Speaker 1: terms of like reporting things that seem outside the mainstream
Speaker 1: so not even necessarily transer, not even necessarily transgender people,
Speaker 1: not even necessarily queer people as well. Like there's a
Speaker 1: lot of like you know, I ice and if definitely
Speaker 1: when I was growing if there's a lot of like
Speaker 1: cis girls who enjoyed dressing more like butcher tomboy. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a there's a and there's a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff that will just affect like kids in general.
Speaker 1: Um with all of this reporting and all of this
Speaker 1: like and making making these like procedures and like hormone
Speaker 1: treatments like you know, to trying to make them seem
Speaker 1: like they're legal. Because that because again, like the actual
Speaker 1: Texas law has has not changed. It is it is
Speaker 1: the it is. This is an opinion piece investing directing
Speaker 1: the child Protective Services to investigate these things. So the
Speaker 1: actual law in the books doesn't change. What it has
Speaker 1: done is caused a whole bunch of like possible legal
Speaker 1: danger um and a massive headache and just a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of like legal harassment against parents and kids. And
Speaker 1: that that's what it's gonna that's what's gonna result in
Speaker 1: because it's it's unclear what this what the Governor's directive
Speaker 1: is going to actually practically look like UM because in
Speaker 1: the in the in a tweet on last Tuesday, he
Speaker 1: said that he's directing the Child Protective Services is to
Speaker 1: enforce this ruling and investigate and refer for prosecution for
Speaker 1: instances of miners receiving affirming care UM, and then to
Speaker 1: the Texas Protective Services told Time magazine on Wednesday that
Speaker 1: it was going to comply with the Governor's directive UM,
Speaker 1: but in terms of like directing them for prosecution, there
Speaker 1: has been like five Texas digitit attorneys UM, including the
Speaker 1: d as of Dallas County and Houston's Travis County. They
Speaker 1: issued a statement to the day after h condemning the
Speaker 1: directive UM and saying that they plan to enforce the
Speaker 1: constitution to quote their quote unquote that's what they said,
Speaker 1: and that they are quote deeply disturbed by Governor Abbots
Speaker 1: and Attorney General Paxton's cruel directives treating transgender children's access
Speaker 1: to life saving gender firm and care as child abuse.
Speaker 1: We will not irrationally and ajustifiably interfere with medical decisions
Speaker 1: made between children, their parents, and their medical physicians to
Speaker 1: ensure the safety of transgender youth, adding that we will
Speaker 1: not allow the governor or turn general to disregard Texas
Speaker 1: children's lives in order to score political points. So in
Speaker 1: terms of you know, there's many certain parts of the
Speaker 1: certain parts of the state where even even if protective
Speaker 1: Services does investigate reports of this, they're not gonna get prosecuted.
Speaker 1: But there will be other parts of the state where
Speaker 1: these they probably will like and because like it's because
Speaker 1: because it is just because it is just an interpretation
Speaker 1: of the law, you can still you can still get
Speaker 1: lots of legal trouble and it's going to be up
Speaker 1: to juries and other people to decide on what interpretation
Speaker 1: of the law is going to be enforced and enacted upon. Um,
Speaker 1: So you're seeing a lot of people being like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: it's actually okay because the law is not changing, it's
Speaker 1: just the interpretation. And we're like, well, no, it actually
Speaker 1: gets a big problem. Like it's like and it's not
Speaker 1: even it's just the overall like it's saying the things
Speaker 1: that have been gone unsaid for a long time, like it'
Speaker 1: it's it's it's making the things that everyone kind of
Speaker 1: assumed or was kind of the unsaid bigotry, putting it
Speaker 1: into writing and making it concrete, and it's like the
Speaker 1: overall escalation of this thing, which is which is is deep, deep,
Speaker 1: deeply concerning. I mean, it's it's the thing that happened
Speaker 1: with like COVID restrictions to like masks and stuff, where
Speaker 1: you've got the cities and stuff where you have kind
Speaker 1: of more rational leadership are saying like we're not we're
Speaker 1: not paying attention to this directed from the governor. We're
Speaker 1: gonna keep having letting people mask or we're not going
Speaker 1: to let you, you know, go after businesses that require masks.
Speaker 1: But with the added dimension of like the rather than
Speaker 1: it being sort of targeting businesses and schools, it's it's
Speaker 1: targeting individuals, and it's allowing individuals to target other individuals,
Speaker 1: like the Texas abortion law exactly. And the primary purpose
Speaker 1: of this is going to be too basically gradually erode
Speaker 1: the areas in which which trans kids can can live
Speaker 1: in Texas. Like, yep, they'll be able to live in
Speaker 1: some of the cities for a while at least, well
Speaker 1: and even even in the cities. Right, it's like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so maybe the the doesn't prosecute but that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that CPS can't just can't investigate you, and like that
Speaker 1: that's gonna be traumatic, a lot of legal harassment because
Speaker 1: like DFPS cannot remove any child from their parents or
Speaker 1: guardians without a court order, and no court in Texas
Speaker 1: or anywhere in the country has yet found gender affirm
Speaker 1: and care to be considered child abuse. So it has
Speaker 1: not happened yet, but they sure wanted to happen, and
Speaker 1: this is these are the next These are the next
Speaker 1: steps that can make it happen. Right, They are trying
Speaker 1: to get there um with this like incremental like these
Speaker 1: incremental things, you know, starting off with like legal interpretations
Speaker 1: and the law. Eventually they would want to change the
Speaker 1: law just to reflect this opinion, right, Like they want
Speaker 1: this to happen. They're just they're trying to slowly, slowly,
Speaker 1: slowly get at it um and it needs to be
Speaker 1: pushed back upon because yeah, any any slow incremental thing
Speaker 1: that they're going to try to do to make it
Speaker 1: basically be impossible to live as trans in Texas, the
Speaker 1: UH and lots of other states as well. It's not
Speaker 1: it's not just Texas. There's things like this happening across
Speaker 1: all of the United States, basically especially especially you know, portions,
Speaker 1: portions of the South. Um. And it's yeah, it does
Speaker 1: play into this kind of overall in the past five years,
Speaker 1: you know, once they lost the gay marriage issue, they're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: the next line of defense for these people is making
Speaker 1: it be impossible to be trans. So it is that
Speaker 1: it's like the new that's the new thing they're gonna
Speaker 1: be really focusing on. And it's we've seen so many,
Speaker 1: so many new bills against against like being trans over
Speaker 1: the course of the past five years. Again, it's it
Speaker 1: is more so putting into writing the things that have
Speaker 1: been always kind of unconscious bigotry or even concious bigotry,
Speaker 1: but it's putting that into actual stone and making it
Speaker 1: like cemented. Um. You know, just at just at the
Speaker 1: start of this year, there was new restrictions put in
Speaker 1: place for Texas is transgender student athletes playing on K
Speaker 1: through twelve school sports teams UM that that went into
Speaker 1: effect on January eighteenth. It was it was a house
Speaker 1: built twenty five authored by Representative Valerie Swanson. UM requires
Speaker 1: student athletes to complete in interslastic competition to play on
Speaker 1: sports teams that correspond with the sex listed on their
Speaker 1: birth certificate at or near their time of birth, which
Speaker 1: means that the legislation went further than the previous rules
Speaker 1: from the University of Slastic League UM, which governs the
Speaker 1: school sports in Texas, in which the students gender is
Speaker 1: determined by their birth certificate, but that that can also
Speaker 1: be legally modified, like you can change these sex assigned
Speaker 1: at birth on on on your birth certificate. The new
Speaker 1: ruling is that it needs to be it needs to
Speaker 1: match the one that it was at or near your
Speaker 1: time of birth. So again, like they're finding all these little,
Speaker 1: these little small like things to like pry um that
Speaker 1: just makes things overall be harder to live in UM.
Speaker 1: And at this point, like ten ten other states have
Speaker 1: put in very similar laws relating to like relating to
Speaker 1: to school sports and like bathroom bills, and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's the it's the same thing that
Speaker 1: authoritarians always do, which is they're just kind of edging
Speaker 1: further and further and and continuing to proceed as they
Speaker 1: do not meet resistance, and the goal is to make
Speaker 1: it illegal and impossible to exist as a transgender person
Speaker 1: in society. You know, part of what they're doing with
Speaker 1: with the wording of how this change in Texas has
Speaker 1: been announced, as they're trying to frame being trans is
Speaker 1: a contagion that threatens children, and step one of that
Speaker 1: under the is going proceeding under the ages if we
Speaker 1: are protecting children by making these kind of surgeries and
Speaker 1: stuff illegal. But the steps beyond that are eventually banning
Speaker 1: and restricting the ability of trans people to be around
Speaker 1: children and eventually be in civil society at all because
Speaker 1: they're a threat to children. That that that's the logical
Speaker 1: procession of the arguments that they're making, and I think
Speaker 1: they're proceeding in a fairly um um logical way in
Speaker 1: terms of achieving that as a goal, and they're not
Speaker 1: going to stop until they are stopped by probably force,
Speaker 1: if anything stops it. At this point, that's that's what
Speaker 1: it's going to have to be, because the local government
Speaker 1: has realized that that's how you get elected because you
Speaker 1: can't you can fix the power grid in Texas, you
Speaker 1: can't provide people with anything that makes their lives easier,
Speaker 1: but you can hurt trans people. Um and Republicans are
Speaker 1: are well are always down with that. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's the thing fascists to where they introduce a
Speaker 1: false crisis. They introduce a false crisis that they can
Speaker 1: actually take steps to to, you know, um, make changes about.
Speaker 1: But all that ends up doing is hurting more of
Speaker 1: the population. It doesn't actually solve any issue that actually
Speaker 1: hurts people. Um. It's it's one of the core things
Speaker 1: in the fascist playbook. And I think it's even in
Speaker 1: the States where there aren't just like blanket bands on
Speaker 1: kids being able to participate in sports teams. Um, there's
Speaker 1: other horrifying things happening. Um. Like in the beginning of February,
Speaker 1: it came out that the Utah Republicans propose a pros
Speaker 1: Commission to analyze trans kids bodies. Um, you're talking about
Speaker 1: the firstman's kind anti transit sports bill that would form
Speaker 1: a commission to determine a student athletes eligibility on a
Speaker 1: case by case basis. The commission would have authority to
Speaker 1: establish a baseline range for various attributes including height, weight,
Speaker 1: body mass, wingspan, hiptoony ratio another physical characteristics affected by
Speaker 1: puberty bearing trans athletes um, who do not fall within
Speaker 1: the established limits to from from participating engendered sports um.
Speaker 1: And yeah, asking like a government appointed panel to analyze
Speaker 1: the bodies of transminers. It does sound like a giant
Speaker 1: recipe for disaster. Um and there is some even more
Speaker 1: like horrifying details. The bill would render the commission quote
Speaker 1: immune from suit like lawsuits with respect to all acts
Speaker 1: done and actions taken in good faith in carrying out
Speaker 1: their purposes. Uh so, yeah, you can't sue anybody for
Speaker 1: what happens under the guise of this commission. So yeah,
Speaker 1: they're just going to be investigating trans youth bodies and yep,
Speaker 1: you can't. There's no lawsuits allowed. Let's let's let's let's
Speaker 1: let's give the let's give the trans child abuse phrenology
Speaker 1: panel just immunity from lawsuits like, yeah, qualified extend qualified
Speaker 1: immunity to citizens hurting the group of people that, uh,
Speaker 1: we don't think are human. Like, this isn't the only
Speaker 1: way place we're going to see that logic extended towards
Speaker 1: You're already seeing it in places like Louisiana with these
Speaker 1: bills to make it legal to kill protesters if you
Speaker 1: feel threatened. Um, Like, it's it's the same playbook, and
Speaker 1: it's going to be the same playbook because there's no
Speaker 1: way to fight it without some sort of force. You
Speaker 1: can't vote these people away. The courts are packed for
Speaker 1: the time being. There's there's only there's not a solution
Speaker 1: that isn't some kind of force. Now we can discuss,
Speaker 1: is it like the force of getting the Fed to
Speaker 1: intervene or whatever, But like, there's no there's no solution
Speaker 1: that is just like democratic I mean, and like Biden's
Speaker 1: office made a statement on this recent Texas like a
Speaker 1: law opinion interpretation thing, and they're like, yeah, this seem
Speaker 1: was bad anyway, good luck could You're like, yeah, oh cool, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's that that meme of like the person drowning with
Speaker 1: their hand out and they high. You're thinking, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: exactly what's happening. And I think the situation is like
Speaker 1: is it's worse than that too, because you know, in
Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks, what's something we started seeing
Speaker 1: as we started seeing democratic journals and democratic strategists openly
Speaker 1: talking about how we need to make as sessions to
Speaker 1: the right and the culture wars Like okay, well, what
Speaker 1: what does that mean? Is like, yeah, throw pro trans
Speaker 1: concert the bus, right, Yeah, because they can't vote, they're
Speaker 1: already freaks, So yeah, they're the easiest person to pick
Speaker 1: away at the rights for UM. And because overall, just
Speaker 1: in the past year alone, more than a hundred bills
Speaker 1: designed to restrict the rights of transgender people have been
Speaker 1: introduced at least thirty three states. Um, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a it's a record breaking year for anti trans legislation
Speaker 1: that's been that has been introduced. UM. In Arkansas, the
Speaker 1: state legislator recently banned gender affirming treatment for minors, UM,
Speaker 1: including hormotherapy like like puberty blockers and similar treatments. Again,
Speaker 1: this is the thing that like that could not happen
Speaker 1: for a long time anyway, just because like culturally and
Speaker 1: medically doctors would never do that. But now at the
Speaker 1: point where that started starting to change, it is this
Speaker 1: it is this like um reactive, reactive effect that people
Speaker 1: are doing. And like now now that now that these
Speaker 1: cogs are turning, people are putting the massive brakes on
Speaker 1: it and putting the thing that used to be just
Speaker 1: unsaid now into actual legal writing. So now this actually
Speaker 1: is like just not allowed as opposed to it just
Speaker 1: not happening because doctors were assholes. So yeah, in Arkansas,
Speaker 1: you can't even receive hormone treatment or beauty blockers. The
Speaker 1: bill was called the Save Adolescence from Experimentation Act. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so referring to medical treatment of one of affirming one's
Speaker 1: gender identity as experimentation. Um, which is not great. I
Speaker 1: mean that is that is how I view it for myself,
Speaker 1: because I like being a freak. But as an overall trend,
Speaker 1: that is that is horrible. Like, that is a horrible
Speaker 1: way to to phrase this type of thing for a
Speaker 1: lot of people, especially the people who who know specifically
Speaker 1: what gender they want to be and and are like
Speaker 1: that is that affects them so differently. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm lucky enough just to be more gender queer, is
Speaker 1: ish um And but yeah, it's all of these bills
Speaker 1: are gonna affect so many people in different ways, and
Speaker 1: it's it's real bad. Like shortly after the Aukranstar bill
Speaker 1: prohibiting transforming medical practices was signed into law last April,
Speaker 1: reports of suicide attempts among trans youth in the state. Uh,
Speaker 1: we're going up, um. And the doctor Michelle Hutchinson, who
Speaker 1: runs the largest provider of hormo therapy in the state,
Speaker 1: called the ap that just just into office alone. During April,
Speaker 1: she saw an uptick in suicide attempts from from from
Speaker 1: trans youth. And this is, this is it's gonna keep happening,
Speaker 1: and like there is you can't trust a lot to
Speaker 1: stop it. Like the Arkansas Governor um uh Issa Hutchinson,
Speaker 1: a Republican, did veto this bill, citing potentially dangerous consequences
Speaker 1: for trans youth and telling it that telling reporters that
Speaker 1: it was a vast government overreach and a byproduct of
Speaker 1: the culture war in America, and her veto was vetoed
Speaker 1: by the state legislator. So like it's gonna be a looping,
Speaker 1: endless problem of legal issues. So it's there's there's needs
Speaker 1: to be other things, Like I've been on Twitter the
Speaker 1: past week just watch looking at all the go fund
Speaker 1: means by parents of trans kids in Texas who are
Speaker 1: trying to move out of state so that their kid
Speaker 1: can receive like hormone treatment and just like be allowed
Speaker 1: to be a person without being harassed by protective services
Speaker 1: and teachers and the school system. And it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's horrifying, like watching all these people like asking for
Speaker 1: help so they can move out of state so that
Speaker 1: they can let their kid be it just a kid.
Speaker 1: Um and it's it is. It is really rough, um
Speaker 1: And a big part of why, part of why it's
Speaker 1: so horrifying is that like obviously, if you're in that situation,
Speaker 1: you can get your kid out there, of course, but
Speaker 1: it also means the more people who move out of
Speaker 1: places like that, the less resources there will be in
Speaker 1: the future for kids whose parents can't get them out,
Speaker 1: you know, and the less support there will be, the
Speaker 1: less and like there is just there is no real
Speaker 1: escape from it, like you cannot get fully away. It
Speaker 1: is that you cannot ever fully escape that type of
Speaker 1: fascist um thought and creep within the state. Letis later
Speaker 1: on specifically around you know how it's going to affect
Speaker 1: different different classes of minorities. UM. I will direct people
Speaker 1: if you want to kind of learn more about this
Speaker 1: sort of thing and if you, you know, can you
Speaker 1: can find some some stuff around that. There's an organization
Speaker 1: Texas called TENT which is uh the UH I just
Speaker 1: want to make sure I say it right. Oh no,
Speaker 1: it's it's the Texas Educational Network, the trans Educational Network
Speaker 1: of Texas. UM. It's one one of those, but it
Speaker 1: is it is a. It is a. It has a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of like mental health resources, guides for trans
Speaker 1: youth in Texas for how to make things slightly less shitty.
Speaker 1: Um and yeah they do. They do some advocacy work
Speaker 1: in Texas. There's also a Quality Texas which is another
Speaker 1: organization that does that does some assistance for transgender people.
Speaker 1: Look in schools. Um and just you know, try again
Speaker 1: trying to make life slightly less, slightly less shitty. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of the last the last thing I wrote
Speaker 1: is the is just fix your hearts or die, which
Speaker 1: is the kind of overall overall message that you can
Speaker 1: really only give to people who want to do this
Speaker 1: type of thing, is that Yeah, there's really no arguing
Speaker 1: with them. Um, you have to either they need to
Speaker 1: fix their hearts or not be around any are like
Speaker 1: they're they're just like whether that be like the just
Speaker 1: secluded to your part of society. But it's like it
Speaker 1: it needs to be actually like resisted upon because these
Speaker 1: people are never going to back down on their own.
Speaker 1: The other part of the problem here again is just
Speaker 1: with how you know, like this this is sort of
Speaker 1: kind of this is an inherent problem that you have
Speaker 1: with democracies, right with with democracies, and in civil rights,
Speaker 1: where it's yeah, you have a group people who aren't
Speaker 1: extremely small minority, and you know, and you know and
Speaker 1: and and this gets compounded by the fact that you're
Speaker 1: dealing with extremely well minority of people and you know,
Speaker 1: you're already dealing with like the you know, the thing
Speaker 1: that is called democracy, right is only participated in by
Speaker 1: an extremely small number of people, especially when you get
Speaker 1: you know, especially when you get down to like the
Speaker 1: the state level of the local level, right like very
Speaker 1: few people are actually voting in these things that people
Speaker 1: who are voting in these things like want trans people
Speaker 1: to die, and so you know, you you you you need,
Speaker 1: you need some kind of other solution to actually secure
Speaker 1: to secure civil rights, because there's just there's there literally
Speaker 1: are not enough trans people, and there are not enough
Speaker 1: people who support them and care enough to do it
Speaker 1: and also are in these areas to prevent this through
Speaker 1: just the normal like vote blue. I mean, like I
Speaker 1: keep seeing this with with Texas. Everyone keeps saying it's like, well, Okay,
Speaker 1: we just gotta vote blue. And it's like people have
Speaker 1: been like people have been saying this about stuff in Texas.
Speaker 1: For as long as I've been alive, it has never happened. Ever,
Speaker 1: like it hasn't my entire life. They keep saying, is
Speaker 1: it keeps not happening and kids keep dying, and yeah,
Speaker 1: there has there has to be something else because yeah,
Speaker 1: Texas is going to come back here. Texas has been
Speaker 1: labor laboriously constructed as a political entity to sty me
Speaker 1: all of your liberal dreams of of uh it going
Speaker 1: purple um and and it will continue to be for
Speaker 1: the foreseeable future. You cannot This is not a voting issue.
Speaker 1: This is a I mean, like I said, some kind
Speaker 1: of force is going to have to be used to
Speaker 1: oppose these people. They're not They're not there. They wouldn't
Speaker 1: listen if you voted them out, you know, and like
Speaker 1: and they do like they themselves do for is you
Speaker 1: look at all the stuff we've been yeah, and and
Speaker 1: and even like regular people like this whole thing of like, yes,
Speaker 1: you should like report your neighbors that you see. If
Speaker 1: you if you see a kid who doesn't look like
Speaker 1: a regular normal borings this child, then yeah you should
Speaker 1: report them. But you should go harass everyone who works
Speaker 1: in your school board so that they ban all books
Speaker 1: referencing anything related to being queer. It's like they do
Speaker 1: take steps to actually hurt other individuals. Um. And they
Speaker 1: can do it through these means that you know, they
Speaker 1: don't necessarily have to always punch you in the face,
Speaker 1: but they can sure direct the state to send agents
Speaker 1: to your house to to like to intimidate, harass you
Speaker 1: and threaten threatened to take away your children. Um. Or
Speaker 1: they can you know, if you're a therapist or a teacher,
Speaker 1: you can be fired or put in jail for failing
Speaker 1: to report, you know, kids who don't subscribe to their
Speaker 1: Christian supremacist ideas of like traditional general rules. Um. Because
Speaker 1: again it's it's it's not even all It's like, again
Speaker 1: there's not tons of trans people in general. Usually it's
Speaker 1: like this is just gonna affect a lot of CIS
Speaker 1: kids as well, who maybe don't want to who don't,
Speaker 1: who don't who don't who who just want to dress cool?
Speaker 1: Like it's like it's it's it's it doesn't even just
Speaker 1: like it is is it does affect everybody. Um, So
Speaker 1: it is it's a it's a it's a it's a
Speaker 1: horrible it's a horrible thing that is not even like
Speaker 1: there's no escape from it, and it will affect you
Speaker 1: whether or not your trends or not. And I think
Speaker 1: it's important also to talk about the manager reporting stuff
Speaker 1: because even manager reporting in general, like even like I've
Speaker 1: I've had things where I was in a school and
Speaker 1: my school essentially turned into a police state because there
Speaker 1: are people who I couldn't talk to about things because
Speaker 1: of things that happened to me that if if if
Speaker 1: if any of them heard it, and one time someone
Speaker 1: did and had to literally beg them, like on my
Speaker 1: knees not to report me, right, not not to report
Speaker 1: the thing that happened to me, because if you know,
Speaker 1: because because if if if that had been heard, like
Speaker 1: and if that had actually been reported, it would have
Speaker 1: you know, it would have started an enormous process and
Speaker 1: I would have had to, you know, like the I
Speaker 1: I would have had to, you know, deal with this
Speaker 1: like this is an institutionalized thing, and that like the
Speaker 1: absolute terror that this kind of stuff creates where you
Speaker 1: have to you know, you have to watch every single
Speaker 1: word that you say around all of the adults in
Speaker 1: your life because if you don't do it, they are
Speaker 1: going to report you. It is like the level of
Speaker 1: psychological terror you weren't flicting on people is horrific. And
Speaker 1: then that in and of itself just is is a
Speaker 1: cost like and and it is something that is going
Speaker 1: to contribute to trans kids killing themselves. And it's it's
Speaker 1: it's just that simple net place. It is such a
Speaker 1: life and death issue, so you have to really be
Speaker 1: forced to go. Yeah, it goes into like it's very
Speaker 1: like ontological issue as well, um. And it deals with
Speaker 1: so many things around the nature of like being and
Speaker 1: what you're allowed to be inside as this societal construct. Um.
Speaker 1: And they're just trying to make that impossible for so
Speaker 1: many people and make everything so limited in their very
Speaker 1: narrow version of what they want the world to be
Speaker 1: that makes them feel comfortable. Yeah. And then and because
Speaker 1: because it's not it's not what the world is, they
Speaker 1: have to use violence to do it. Yeah. So because
Speaker 1: it's stuck, because that is the rule that that is,
Speaker 1: that is the rules that we're playing by, that is
Speaker 1: the game we're playing. Yeah, my, my, only. The the
Speaker 1: default response to be for those people is yeah, they
Speaker 1: need to they need to fix their hearts or die
Speaker 1: and just get out of the way. And because it's
Speaker 1: that's they already have that for us, except they don't
Speaker 1: want us to their hearts. They just want us to die.
Speaker 1: So like we are way more empathetic than they are,
Speaker 1: um because they can just not be transphobic. They cannot,
Speaker 1: they can they can just not do these things. Um.
Speaker 1: But if they're gonna keep doubling down, then yeah, well
Speaker 1: that's if if you want to play by their rules,
Speaker 1: then we need to start playing by their rules because
Speaker 1: they're not going to have if they're not going to
Speaker 1: change the rules, then that is the that is the
Speaker 1: game that they want us to do. Um. And again,
Speaker 1: like actual like I want to I always, I always
Speaker 1: ever epis it's like this, I always want to kind
Speaker 1: of end with like here are some steps that you
Speaker 1: can like take that are relatively easy, and it's it's
Speaker 1: it's challenging for these types of some sorts of things
Speaker 1: like like there, yes, there is things you can do
Speaker 1: around you know, getting like making sure you're aware of
Speaker 1: what bills are being talked about in your local like
Speaker 1: your local area, contacting representatives to to do stuff, going
Speaker 1: to going to you know, either whether their school board
Speaker 1: meetings or stuff. But like a lot of the electoralist
Speaker 1: type of ideas around this is always so inadequate, um,
Speaker 1: and that it feels always so fake. Um that you
Speaker 1: know it's it's it is so much it feels a
Speaker 1: lot easier to that to like, you know, figure out
Speaker 1: different ways to actually help actual trans people in your area,
Speaker 1: um and give trans people money. Um. Like It's like
Speaker 1: that is often can be actually have a way more
Speaker 1: positive effects at least effects that are like observable. But like,
Speaker 1: but there are also ways to stop this type of legislation,
Speaker 1: like there is that there is there there is ways
Speaker 1: to do that, and I will I'll try to get
Speaker 1: into more of that kind of stuff as well once
Speaker 1: we get you know, our our week long of stuff
Speaker 1: about the war on trans people, um that will be
Speaker 1: upcoming probably sometimes in this in this next month. Yeah. Um.
Speaker 1: Remember folks, if anybody ever suggests doing something for children
Speaker 1: that isn't providing them with food or shelter, you should
Speaker 1: probably hit that person because they're probably trying to fund
Speaker 1: something up for somebody. It's nearly always don't trust anyone
Speaker 1: who says there need to do something to protect children
Speaker 1: that they're lying to you. As a rule, they're lying
Speaker 1: to you. Um, anyway you guys. Um, how's the boy
Speaker 1: that's Star Wars? Oh yeah, I love there's the there's
Speaker 1: the there's the the Obi WANs coming out. That'll be good.
Speaker 1: I am excited for the Obi WANs because it speaking
Speaker 1: of speaking speaking of you and McGregor. A few months ago,
Speaker 1: I saw the film Velvet gold Mine starring you and McGregor,
Speaker 1: which is a wonderful, like pseudo fictional film but about
Speaker 1: kind of the glam rock era inside Britain. It's very, very,
Speaker 1: very gay, very whole bunch of a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: very good twink action. And there was one scene where, um,
Speaker 1: you McGregor's character, he's he's like, he's kind of based
Speaker 1: off one of the one of those types of music people.
Speaker 1: I forget, I forget which one it is. Um, I
Speaker 1: think people, I think, I think, I think he's playing
Speaker 1: like a kind of a version of that. But there's
Speaker 1: one scene where he's doing a performance where he takes
Speaker 1: all of his clothes off on stage and you get
Speaker 1: to see you and McGregor's dick, um, and yeah you do.
Speaker 1: So if if people, if people want to see a
Speaker 1: kind of David Bowie esque film starring you, McGregor. It has,
Speaker 1: It has like a weird gay email, Christian Bale as
Speaker 1: as a twink, and a whole bunch of other really
Speaker 1: really solid twink stuff. I would recommend watching Vella Guild Mine.
Speaker 1: It has, it has a lot of great stuff. Um
Speaker 1: and You do very early in the film get to
Speaker 1: see you and McGregor's penis just flapping around on stage
Speaker 1: and it is. It's pretty good. It's speaking of movies
Speaker 1: where you see a famous person's dick, if you want
Speaker 1: to see another famous penis The movie Galaxy Quest contains
Speaker 1: several shots and Tim now and daw I don't want
Speaker 1: to see Tim Allen's hanging wang. As someone who's seen
Speaker 1: both Galaxy Quest and Velvel gold Mine and who appreciates
Speaker 1: both films, dearly You and You and McGregor is miles
Speaker 1: hotter than Tim Allen. Tim Allen's dong shot is not hot.
Speaker 1: It's not pleasing. It is not supposed to be. He
Speaker 1: has hungover in his like bathrobe leaning over. But if
Speaker 1: you want, if you if you want to see, if
Speaker 1: we see rain Or Fastbender's dick Germany and Autumn, Okay,
Speaker 1: that that's why I could. I could, I could do
Speaker 1: that very weird movie. However, if you were in terms
Speaker 1: of in terms of actionable things to make you feel better,
Speaker 1: everyone go watch Vella gold Mine because it has some
Speaker 1: dairy it has some very good gender play, has wonderful,
Speaker 1: wonderful s off around gender, wonderfu stuff around gayness, and yeah,
Speaker 1: the film from like the nineties where there was like
Speaker 1: lots of gay fucking and you're like, wow, how is
Speaker 1: this film made in the nineties, because it is a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of like big name actors now who were
Speaker 1: like unknown at the time, all being gay and sucking
Speaker 1: each other and like, holy sh it. Alright, so folks,
Speaker 1: that is the uh, that's what we got that. There's
Speaker 1: your action items items. Go watch, Go watch other gold Mine.
Speaker 1: Make everyone you know watch the gold Mine and I'll
Speaker 1: thank you feel good about gender. Take screen grabs of
Speaker 1: Ellan McGregor's dick, make Berner Twitter accounts and just start posting.
Speaker 1: Just just get it out there, get it out there
Speaker 1: the one it needs to know. Throw some of Tim
Speaker 1: Allen's dick out there too. Don't be don't be choosy.
Speaker 1: Stick it all all the dicks, all right, that's gonna
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