WEBVTT - Debate Fallout: Michelle Obama WILL Replace Joe Biden on the Ballot

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.

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<v Speaker 2>This is also going to be the Ben Ferguson podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>and many of you are going to hear this on

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<v Speaker 2>radio stations as well. This is moments after the presidential debate,

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<v Speaker 2>Center Cruz. I didn't think it could actually be this bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It was worse than even I think either of us

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<v Speaker 2>could have imagined. And now the Democratic Party is screaming

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<v Speaker 2>replaced the president.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you and I are sitting here at is ten

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen pm Texas time, at is eleven seventeen pm East

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<v Speaker 3>Coast time, the night of the debate. The debate just ended,

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<v Speaker 3>and I have to say we have just witnessed what

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<v Speaker 3>I believe is the most consequential presidential debate in US history.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes debate change, debates change things. Sometimes they don't. I

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<v Speaker 3>believe to bite tonight's debate change things fundamentally. And I

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<v Speaker 3>believe the odds have now skyrocketed. I believe the odds

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<v Speaker 3>are north of eighty percent that the Democrat Party will

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<v Speaker 3>remove Joe Biden from the ticket and replace him. And

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<v Speaker 3>I believe they are likely to replace Joe Biden with

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<v Speaker 3>Michelle Obama because Biden did so disastrously badly tonight that

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats across the country are in utter freefall and complete panic.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to break all that down tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, this was a prediction that you

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<v Speaker 2>made on this show back in September of twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>three that the Democratic king makers could bring in Michelle

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<v Speaker 2>Obama will break all that down. I want to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you real quick about our friends at the International Fellowship

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<v Speaker 2>of Christians and Jews, and as Israel's ground campaign against

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<v Speaker 2>the Hamas terrace is continuing, the IDF announced that it

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<v Speaker 2>expects to have complete control of the southern Gava city

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<v Speaker 2>of Rafa, a Hamas stronghold, within two weeks. Tensions continue

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<v Speaker 2>to rise in Israel's north as there are constant rocket

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<v Speaker 2>attacks from Hesblah that have been fired at Israel. Troops

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<v Speaker 2>have been injured. Sirens have been sounded in neighborhoods along

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<v Speaker 2>the eleven on Israel border as well. And that is

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<v Speaker 2>where your help comes in. You look at what is

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<v Speaker 2>happening right now, and they need your help.

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<v Speaker 1>In Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>Since the tear attack on October the seventh, anti Semitism

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<v Speaker 2>has been on the rise, not just in Israel, but

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<v Speaker 2>here at home, in the US and around the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is why I partnered with the International Fellowship

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<v Speaker 2>of Christians and Jews. And today I am coming to

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<v Speaker 2>you to ask that you stand with us and IFCJ.

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<v Speaker 2>This pledge is simple. We are asking Christians to stand

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<v Speaker 2>with their Jewish brothers and sisters, to never be silent,

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<v Speaker 2>to show the Jewish people they are not alone, that

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<v Speaker 2>they have God and Christians on their side. For the

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<v Speaker 2>month of June, We're asking Christians to sign the pledge,

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<v Speaker 2>which will be delivered to the President of Israel, to

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<v Speaker 2>show that Christians in America are not only standing in solidarity,

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<v Speaker 2>but they are speaking up as well. So let's take

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<v Speaker 2>a stand today with the International Fellowship of Christians and

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<v Speaker 2>Jews to let the Jewish people know that they air

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<v Speaker 2>not alone and we stand proudly behind them. To sign

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<v Speaker 2>the pledge, all you have to do is go to

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<v Speaker 2>support IFCJ dot org. That support IFCJ dot org to

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<v Speaker 2>take a stand today and stand with the people of Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>Support IFCJ dot org Centaer. I want to get to

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<v Speaker 2>some of the highlights, but even before we get to

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<v Speaker 2>the debate, I think the most shocking part is what

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<v Speaker 2>happened directly after the debate.

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<v Speaker 1>This was the.

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<v Speaker 2>First thing that America heard on CNN, the host of

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<v Speaker 2>the debate.

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<v Speaker 4>That's into the debate, and it continues right now. It

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<v Speaker 4>involves party strategists, it involves elected officials, it involves fundraisers,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're having conversations about the president's performance, which they

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<v Speaker 4>think was dismal, which they think will hurt other people

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<v Speaker 4>down the party in the ticket, and they're having conversations

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<v Speaker 4>about what they should do about it. Some of those

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<v Speaker 4>conversations include, should we go to the White House and

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<v Speaker 4>ask the president's step aside? Or other of the conversations

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<v Speaker 4>are about should prominent Democrats go public with that call

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<v Speaker 4>because they feel this debate was so terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>They do say in moments in the debate.

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<v Speaker 4>Later the president got better and got his footing, but

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<v Speaker 4>then at the end, even his closing statement was a

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<v Speaker 4>little halting the contrast between the two candidates.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me be clear, none of them and.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of Republicans don't think Donald Trump had a

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<v Speaker 4>great night. Donald Trump broke the fact check machine more

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<v Speaker 4>than I can count tonight. That will be on the

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<v Speaker 4>record as we go forward. He refused to answer some

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<v Speaker 4>very specific and direct questions about his conduct about January sixth.

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<v Speaker 5>And what all.

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<v Speaker 1>So that will be dealt.

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<v Speaker 4>With out there. And sometimes there's a parallel universe between

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<v Speaker 4>the political elites and the American people. Be nice to

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<v Speaker 4>see what the voters say. But I can tell you

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<v Speaker 4>it started minutes in. It started with the first couple

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<v Speaker 4>of answers, and it has continued throughout the night from

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<v Speaker 4>oh my god, Oh my god, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>To what do we do about this?

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<v Speaker 4>And it involves very senior people in the Democratic Party,

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<v Speaker 4>including elected officials, saying we have a problem, and just we.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>They're moving actively right now to replace Joe Biden, saying

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<v Speaker 2>we've got time before the convention, which is exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>you predicted on this show nine months ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let me say what you played just there. I

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<v Speaker 3>agree with half of it, and I disagree with half

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<v Speaker 3>of it. What I do agree with is that Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Biden did unbelievably badly, that the degree of dementia he

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<v Speaker 3>is facing right now, it is escalated to a point

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<v Speaker 3>that it is unrecognizable. And I think there are a

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<v Speaker 3>great many Democrats who are looking at this saying we

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<v Speaker 3>cannot nominate this man. He is not capable. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>know what's going on. In a second, we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>play a couple of clips that show that. But it

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<v Speaker 3>was I will say, as badly as I thought Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Biden was going to do, he did worse. It was stunning.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never seen a debate performance this bad. But the

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<v Speaker 3>part I disagree of what you just played is I

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<v Speaker 3>think Donald Trump had hands down his best debate performance

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<v Speaker 3>he has ever had in his life.

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<v Speaker 5>Look.

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<v Speaker 3>I've stood on that stage with Donald Trump about a

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<v Speaker 3>dozen times, and I've seen him and sometimes he said

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<v Speaker 3>good debates. Sometimes he's had less than good debates. Tonight

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<v Speaker 3>he did exactly what earlier this morning, you and I

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<v Speaker 3>did a special podcast preparing for this debate, and what

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<v Speaker 3>you and I talked about that Trump needed to do

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<v Speaker 3>is be calm, be measured, be under control, not interrupt

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Biden, let him hang himself, give him the airtime

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<v Speaker 3>to talk. And Trump did that spectacularly. He was restrained,

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<v Speaker 3>even as Biden was saying ridiculous things. He was restrained,

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<v Speaker 3>he was calmed, he was matter of fact. He prosecuted

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<v Speaker 3>the case and Biden couldn't handle it. Biden repeatedly, what

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<v Speaker 3>was screaming, You're a liar, you're lying, you could I

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<v Speaker 3>mean he was. There were moments. Look, it's clear we

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<v Speaker 3>talked before about the meds. They had him on meds.

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<v Speaker 3>They put him on different meds from the State of

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<v Speaker 3>the Union. He was not nearly as amped up as

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<v Speaker 3>he was at the State of the Union. But when

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<v Speaker 3>Trump poked him and he got angry, Biden couldn't respond

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<v Speaker 3>other than just screaming, liar, liar, liar. And he returned

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<v Speaker 3>to the State of the Union, old man on his

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<v Speaker 3>front porch, screaming, get off my front port. She had

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<v Speaker 3>moments like that, But that's not even the dominant takeaway.

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<v Speaker 3>The dominant takeaway is this is a man who doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>know what's going on here.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to play the.

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<v Speaker 3>Clip early in the debate where he just completely loses

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<v Speaker 3>his train of thought, and this is the answer at

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<v Speaker 3>which I think people all over the country said, uh, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>this guy's just not there.

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<v Speaker 5>Give a listen.

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<v Speaker 6>I sculd me with dealing with everything we have to

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<v Speaker 6>do with. Look, if we finally beat medicare.

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<v Speaker 2>We finally beat medicare, I mean Donald Trump's response was quote,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I really don't know what he said at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of that sentence. I don't think he knows

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<v Speaker 2>what he said either.

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<v Speaker 3>And Biden gets lost and and Trump counters with what

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<v Speaker 3>he counters to. That is and by the way, the

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<v Speaker 3>question had nothing to do with medicare, Like the word

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<v Speaker 3>medicare comes completely out of left field. It's the only

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<v Speaker 3>thing he mentioned. He's just like, we finally beat medicare.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Trump cames and said, well, he said at

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<v Speaker 3>the end, he beat medicare. He beat it to death.

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<v Speaker 3>Give a listen to Trump's response. Play the next clip.

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<v Speaker 6>All those things we need to do, childcare, eldercare, making

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<v Speaker 6>sure that we continue to suppend strength in our healthcare system,

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<v Speaker 6>making sure that we're able to make every single solitary

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<v Speaker 6>person eligible for what I've been able to do with

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<v Speaker 6>the h with the COVID I exculd me with dealing

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<v Speaker 6>with every day we have to do with Look, if

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<v Speaker 6>we finally beat medicare.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, President Biden.

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<v Speaker 7>President Trump, Well, he's right, he did beat medicare, beat

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<v Speaker 7>it to death. And he's destroying medicare because all of

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<v Speaker 7>these people are coming in, they're putting them on Medicare,

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<v Speaker 7>They're putting them on.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you hear that he just stopped, didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>what he was doing. And if you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>look on his face, Senator Joe Biden actually looked lost

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<v Speaker 2>and was looking around like what am I doing?

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<v Speaker 5>Where am I?

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<v Speaker 3>His brain was frozen, it short circuited throughout the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you Joe Biden did badly when he wasn't talking.

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<v Speaker 3>When he wasn't talking, the look on his face was

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<v Speaker 3>a look of confusion. Listen, anyone who's ever dealt with

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<v Speaker 3>with an elderly parent, an elderly grandparent who's dealing with

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<v Speaker 3>the loss of their faculties knows that look. My grandmother Miabuela,

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<v Speaker 3>whom I love, she had Alzheimer's. I've seen, I've seen

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<v Speaker 3>what happens. It was clear he didn't know what was

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<v Speaker 3>going on. He was just confused. And even his most

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<v Speaker 3>passionate defenders, they can't defend them all, right, Maria Shriver.

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<v Speaker 1>I just saw this.

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<v Speaker 2>Kennel Kennedy, Yeah, I just saw this.

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<v Speaker 3>Democrat 're Democrat Royalty. Let me read you what she

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<v Speaker 3>just tweeted moments ago.

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<v Speaker 5>Quote.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Joe Biden. I know he's a good man.

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<v Speaker 3>I know his heart is good. I know he's dedicated

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<v Speaker 3>to our country and is surrounded by good people. Tonight

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<v Speaker 3>was heartbreaking in many ways. This is a big political moment.

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<v Speaker 3>There's panic in the Democratic Party. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a long night. The Democrats have lost Maria Shriver. That's

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<v Speaker 3>a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and listen to Abby Phillips. Abby Phillips saying this

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<v Speaker 2>on CNN as well in the moments afterwards. This is

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<v Speaker 2>how she described how bad it was for Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 8>And just to co sign what John is saying. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>the panic that I am hearing from Democrats is not

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<v Speaker 8>like anything that I have heard in this campaign so far,

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<v Speaker 8>and a lot of it has to do with First

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<v Speaker 8>of all, there was a deep frustration about Trump's lies.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he lied a lot tonight.

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<v Speaker 8>But the problem for Biden was that Trump was able

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<v Speaker 8>to take sometimes incredible falsehoods and turn them into some

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<v Speaker 8>kind of argument, whereas Biden's answers were in a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of cases not coherent, deeply problematic. That he was not

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<v Speaker 8>able to take pretty straightforward answers and answer them to.

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<v Speaker 5>The that's CNN.

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<v Speaker 3>That is CNN who's saying the Democrats are panicking and

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<v Speaker 3>Biden's answers where in a lot of cases not go here,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, play Van Jones, Van Jones, this is the

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<v Speaker 3>hard left here, he's on CNN.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen. Here's what Van Jones had to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I was painful. I love Joe Biden. I worked for

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden. He didn't do well at all. He did

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<v Speaker 1>not do well at all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a funeral. It's like you're watching a funeral

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<v Speaker 2>in real time on CNN. And this is their instant reaction.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the first voices that America heard after the debate.

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<v Speaker 2>Drudge Report, for example, which used to be pretty conservative center,

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<v Speaker 2>now they really hate Donald Trump. Their headline right now

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<v Speaker 2>is Operation Replace Biden, dim scramble with one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>thirty days to go debate catastrophe, Which brings me back

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<v Speaker 2>to let's go back to nine months ago. Nine months ago,

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<v Speaker 2>September the eighteenth, You and I had this conversation. And

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, there were a lot in the media,

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<v Speaker 2>and there were a lot of other people in Washington

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<v Speaker 2>that said you and I were crazy for having this conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's play the clip.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's the scenario that I think is perhaps most

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<v Speaker 3>likely and most dangerous. In August of twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 3>the Democrat Kingmakers jettison Joe Biden and parachute in Michelle Obama, and.

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<v Speaker 5>I want you to pause and reflect on it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm pausing, and I'm reflecting, as we said, and

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<v Speaker 2>so is everybody else listening.

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<v Speaker 5>Right now, I view this as a very serious danger.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm smiling right now because it terrifies me. And I

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<v Speaker 1>also could totally see this happen.

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<v Speaker 3>So Michelle Obama, number one, you don't infuriate African American women,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a critical part of the constituency that Democrats

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<v Speaker 3>are relying on to win. But number two, you avoid

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<v Speaker 3>the problem if you pick from any of the four.

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<v Speaker 3>The other three are pissed because they're all, to some

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<v Speaker 3>extent peers, they're rivals, they're all jabbin knives at each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Michelle Obama, because she was first Lady, has the ability

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of parachute in above all four and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we're not picking among any of you. You guys can

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<v Speaker 3>all fight it out. Next time. You're all going to

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<v Speaker 3>be on the same level. We're coming. This is the

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<v Speaker 3>Obamas saving the day. And I think in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>a solution, that unifies Democrats.

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<v Speaker 5>There ain't nothing like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I also think Michelle is not all that eager to

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<v Speaker 3>run for president. But to parachute in in August of

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four, a couple of months before the presidency and

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<v Speaker 3>suddenly wake up and to be president not a bad gig.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not a bad gig at all. Now would she

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<v Speaker 5>do it? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I've met Michelle, but I don't know her personally in

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<v Speaker 3>any meaningful way.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if she would do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think Barack Obama is already running the Biden administration.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he is already the puppet master behind this

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<v Speaker 3>Biden white House. I don't think Joe Biden is the

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<v Speaker 3>decision maker. And so when I see the media turning

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<v Speaker 3>on Joe Biden right now, I think the odds of

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<v Speaker 3>Michelle Obama parachuting in in August of twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 3>have risen dramatically, and that ought to scare the hell

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<v Speaker 3>out anyone who is unhappy about the direction this country

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<v Speaker 3>is going and doesn't want us to go even crazier

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<v Speaker 3>in an even worse direct.

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<v Speaker 2>September eighteenth, center of twenty twenty three, we had this

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<v Speaker 2>discussion and even right now on MSN dot com. The

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<v Speaker 2>headline is we beat Medicare Biden Freeze's mid answer before

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<v Speaker 2>being bailed out by moderator, and then they go on

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about that was a total disaster by the

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<v Speaker 2>sitting president and Democrats are running to replace Joe Biden,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're not even having the conversation behind closed doors.

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<v Speaker 2>They're having it out on national TV right now and

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<v Speaker 2>in the news.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and Ben, what you've just played is I think

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<v Speaker 3>as good a promo for this podcast as you possibly

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<v Speaker 3>could have.

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<v Speaker 5>What we are facing right now.

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<v Speaker 3>We predicted on this podcast nine months ago, in September

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<v Speaker 3>of twenty twenty three. We were among the very first

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<v Speaker 3>voices to do that. At the time, it made a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of headlines. And you're right, people thought we were

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<v Speaker 3>batcrap crazy. Let's be clear, they thought I was bat

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<v Speaker 3>crap crazy. I shouldn't say we had stick you into that.

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<v Speaker 3>You were there while I was making that prediction, and

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<v Speaker 3>they were like, Cruise has lost his mind. And by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, in terms of predictions, we also at the

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<v Speaker 3>outset of COVID laid out all of the evidence that

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<v Speaker 3>COVID originated in the Chinese lab in when CNN and ABC, CBS,

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<v Speaker 3>NBC were suppressing that news, when Facebook and Twitter were

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<v Speaker 3>suppressing that news. We were laying out the evidence then

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<v Speaker 3>and this morning, before the debate, our analysis of the debate,

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<v Speaker 3>I predicted, unequivocally, Donald Trump is going to kick Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Biden's ass. That was my prediction. That is exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the title of the show. And there were

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<v Speaker 3>not a lot of people predicting that, but I number one,

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<v Speaker 3>thought Biden would do terribly. But number two, if Trump

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<v Speaker 3>could remain controlled, and he did that, he did that

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<v Speaker 3>in an excellent way. I'm going to call President Trump

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<v Speaker 3>tomorrow and tell him it's the best debate he's ever done,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've been there for a lot of them. He

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<v Speaker 3>was measured, he was controlled, he was fact based, He

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<v Speaker 3>laid out the case. Even his response on medicare, Let's

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<v Speaker 3>take the one we just played. It would be easy

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<v Speaker 3>to be starky and say, okay, this guy is like

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<v Speaker 3>that answer is incoherent. What Trump did was even better.

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<v Speaker 3>There said I mean, look, he said he actually did

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<v Speaker 3>beat medicare, which was obviously a weird brain short circuit.

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<v Speaker 3>And he said the reason he beat Medicare is because

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<v Speaker 3>he's let millions and millions of legal immigrants into this country.

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<v Speaker 3>He's putting them all in Medicare, which is going to

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<v Speaker 3>bankrupt Medicare. And that was a major message that Trump

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<v Speaker 3>is hitting, is that the invasion on our southern border

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<v Speaker 3>is also bankrupting Medicare and social Security. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>was a smart decision to lean in on that. Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Biden had no answer. He had no response all night long.

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<v Speaker 3>As Trump laid out the case you caused the inflation,

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Biden had no response to that. As Trump laid

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<v Speaker 3>out the people who are being murdered all across this

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<v Speaker 3>country from criminals and insane asylums. When Trump would say, look,

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<v Speaker 3>Venezuela is emptying their jails and sending US murderers and

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<v Speaker 3>rapists and child molesters and lunatics, you saw Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 3>just looking confused. He had no response, He didn't dispute it.

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<v Speaker 3>He had nothing to say in response on foreign policy,

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<v Speaker 3>and we talked about this again in this morning's podcast

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<v Speaker 3>and just said, well, if Trump's president Putin will invade

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<v Speaker 3>all of Ukraine and all of Europe, and Trump is like,

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<v Speaker 3>what utter crap? When I was president Russia didn't invade

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<v Speaker 3>one square inch of territory anywhere on planet Earth. And

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, he did under Barack Obama, and he

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<v Speaker 3>did under Joe Biden. You're so weak that that's why

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<v Speaker 3>Putin invaded and it. Trump did an excellent job of

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<v Speaker 3>prosecuting the case, and Biden was utterly incapable of responding.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think you are seeing seeing Democrats freaking out now.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe there are two things. Well, let me say

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of things. Number one, let me tell you why.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it'll be Michelle Obama because you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>see today and tomorrow all sorts of discussion. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>hear Gavin Newsome, You're gonna hear all sorts of other names.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if they do it, what's the pitch Because

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna start with Barack Obama, who was just leading

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden off stage, remember, and everybody saw it like

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<v Speaker 2>he was an elderly old man in opa home. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that to be mean, I'm just being

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<v Speaker 2>honest about it. And clearly he witnessed how bad it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Then is he the guy that has to look at

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<v Speaker 2>Michelle and I going I'd do it, but I can.

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<v Speaker 2>I've already been president for eight years. It has to

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<v Speaker 2>be you, honey.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let me break it to two pieces. Let me

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<v Speaker 3>tell you why it has to be Michelle. It has

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<v Speaker 3>to be Michelle because of Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris is

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<v Speaker 3>the VP. If you push Joe Biden aside, Kamala's next

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<v Speaker 3>in line. The people who say we want Gavin Newsom,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what if the Democrat Party pushes an African

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<v Speaker 3>American woman aside and replaces her with a white guy,

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<v Speaker 3>their party implodes. They cannot do it. They are being

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<v Speaker 3>counters and they are faced. It's actually what forced Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Biden to pick Kamala in the first place. He backed

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<v Speaker 3>himself into it. He doesn't like Kamala. And the problem

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats are having that now is they're looking at Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 3>They're saying, oh my goodness, this guy cannot be our nominee.

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<v Speaker 3>And they look at Kamala and they recognize she's a

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<v Speaker 3>terrible nominee. And if she's the nominee, they know they'll lose.

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<v Speaker 3>And so their problem is the only person on planet

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<v Speaker 3>Earth who can push Kamala Harris aside is Michelle Obama

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<v Speaker 3>another African American woman who stands on a different footing

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<v Speaker 3>as a former first lady. Now, what are the impediments

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<v Speaker 3>that stop it? The impediments are twofold number one, Michelle

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<v Speaker 3>says no, number two. Joe Biden says no. On the

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<v Speaker 3>Michelle says no. I think you're going to have Barrock

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<v Speaker 3>coming to her. I think you're going to have a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of Democrat kingmakers coming to her. And the pitch

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be, Michelle, you need to save America. Michelle,

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<v Speaker 3>we need you, Michelle. If you do not step forward,

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump is going to be president. Michelle, you are

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<v Speaker 3>the only person on planet Earth that can save the

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<v Speaker 3>world from a Donald Trump presidency.

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<v Speaker 5>And listen.

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<v Speaker 3>People perceive Michelle Obama as somewhat nonpartisan because she was

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<v Speaker 3>a first late in first ladies kind of stay out

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<v Speaker 3>of politics. I think she is more radical than Barack.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she is an ideologue. I think she is

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<v Speaker 3>a leftist. You remember when when Barack Obama was running

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<v Speaker 3>and she talked about his getting elected was the first

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<v Speaker 3>time in her life she was proud of her country.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she embraces hardcore leftism, but a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people don't know that. And so the pitch to her

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be save America. And then the pitch

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<v Speaker 3>to Joe Biden. She's got to say yes number one.

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<v Speaker 3>And then too, Joe Biden has got to agree to

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<v Speaker 3>step aside. And I think you're going to see in

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<v Speaker 3>the coming days. You know, you played my prediction from

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<v Speaker 3>September of twenty twenty three. The only thing I might

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<v Speaker 3>have gotten wrong is I said that this would happen

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<v Speaker 3>in August of twenty twenty four. It may be July

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<v Speaker 3>of twenty twenty four. I may have been a month

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<v Speaker 3>off in the timing. Because this debate I think changed

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<v Speaker 3>the fundamental terrain.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's also talk about there was two moments that I

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<v Speaker 2>think really speak to the demise of the cognitive colan

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<v Speaker 2>of Joe Biden. And it was subtle but significant, and

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get.

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<v Speaker 1>Your reaction to it.

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<v Speaker 2>There was one moment when he was asked about social

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<v Speaker 2>Security and he gave a very very short answer and

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<v Speaker 2>then the moderators looked at him like, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>You still have I think they said eighty four seconds

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<v Speaker 2>left or something like that. There was another time he

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<v Speaker 2>was talking about African American voters, African American community, and

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<v Speaker 2>African American issues. And they're like, sir, you still have

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<v Speaker 2>like another minute and ex ember of seconds, sixty four

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<v Speaker 2>seconds left.

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<v Speaker 1>He couldn't even.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, he spent eight days at Camp David

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<v Speaker 3>preparing and he could not fill the two minutes with

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<v Speaker 3>it a the.

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<v Speaker 2>Two minutes on two vitally important issues like social Security.

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<v Speaker 2>Any politician should be able to fill for two minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, you should be able to fill.

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<v Speaker 3>These were not subtle, These were not gotcha's, These were

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<v Speaker 3>obvious questions. He had nothing to say. He was scared.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a deer in the headlights.

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<v Speaker 2>So you said, deer in headlights. Let's go to the

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<v Speaker 2>next conversation that's being had right now. And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>it's being had at the White House, at the EOB,

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<v Speaker 2>at the Camp Paying headquarters. Who goes to the president

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<v Speaker 2>first and says step down? And then you're also dealing.

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<v Speaker 1>With every guy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's everybody very stubborn though like he can just can't

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<v Speaker 2>he just look at him say I'm not gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 3>He is absolutely stubborn. I think it is BARACKO Bob.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it is Nancy Pelosi. I think it is

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<v Speaker 3>Chuck Schumer. I think it is every leader in the

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<v Speaker 3>Democrat Party. It's not Kamala Harris Kamo is not allowed

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<v Speaker 3>in the room, but I think it is. And they

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<v Speaker 3>go to him and they're pitch to him. They say, Joe,

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<v Speaker 3>you were an historic president, you saved America from Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>You wanted to be the next FDR. I think they will.

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<v Speaker 3>They will appeal to his vanity and say you are

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<v Speaker 3>the next to FDR. You are consequential right now. If

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<v Speaker 3>you stay in the race, you risk undoing your entire

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<v Speaker 3>legacy and giving that legacy going down in history as

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<v Speaker 3>the man who made Donald Trump president. If you stay

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<v Speaker 3>in this race, it will be your fault that Trump

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<v Speaker 3>is president. I think they'll appeal to his vanity and

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<v Speaker 3>and look that that is, I think to Joe bideny

0:23:58.680 --> 0:23:59.600
<v Speaker 3>really powerful pitch.

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<v Speaker 5>Look you look at the debate tonight. He said things.

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<v Speaker 3>At one point, he said, during Trump's presidency, we had

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<v Speaker 3>a thousand trillionaires. By the way, there are no trillionaires

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<v Speaker 3>on planet Earth. At another point, he said, during Donald Trump,

0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:14.360
<v Speaker 3>we had fifty percent unemployment.

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<v Speaker 5>No, that is wildly wrong.

0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:20.280
<v Speaker 3>At another point, he said he created Joe Biden created

0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 3>hundreds of millions of jobs. Mind you, there three hundred

0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:25.919
<v Speaker 3>and thirty million Americans and apparently he's created hundreds of

0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:28.440
<v Speaker 3>millions of jobs, so more more jobs than there are

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 3>working Americans. Like it is, every answer was a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>At another point, he said, the Border Patrol endorsed me.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's be clear.

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<v Speaker 3>The Border Patrol Union immediately tweeted out to be clear,

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<v Speaker 3>we have never and will never endorse Biden at every stage.

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<v Speaker 3>And what's interesting, he was also trying to insult Trump. Yeah,

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:52.120
<v Speaker 3>and Trump didn't take debate. Yeah, and he was smart.

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:57.639
<v Speaker 3>It was really at Actually when Trump poked Biden, Biden

0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:01.360
<v Speaker 3>freaked out. He couldn't not debate. And so the contrast,

0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:04.720
<v Speaker 3>and I'll say something else. You mentioned African American votes.

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Trump's numbers are surging in the black community, and I

0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 3>think tonight he made a very hard pitch for black voters,

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 3>and his most significant pitch. He had a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>points about how bad Trump, how bad Biden has been

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 3>for the African American community, talked about inflation, how it's

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 3>hammering black families, but then he also tied it to

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:27.560
<v Speaker 3>illegal immigration, and he said, look, the millions and millions

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 3>of ill immigrants that are coming into this country. They're

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 3>taking jobs from black Americans. That is a powerful argument.

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 3>That is an argument. And by the way, Biden had

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 3>no response to that. It was silent. It was on

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:47.160
<v Speaker 3>the substance. Trump prosecuted the case and Biden crashed and burned.

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 3>And in fact, the Wall Street Journal just sent out

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 3>their key takeaway, their story that they wrote tonight, and

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 3>it's now ten forty seven pm, and their headline is

0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 3>Biden crashed in first debate with Trump. That's not an editorial,

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 3>that's the news headline in the Wall Street Journal because

0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:09.439
<v Speaker 3>it is just objectively. If you watch the Hindenburg explode,

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.399
<v Speaker 3>you don't say Zeppelin landed tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>let's also talk about those that have been lying. The

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<v Speaker 2>media center has been lying, congressmen have been lying, staff

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 2>members have been lying. They've been going on TV telling

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 2>you that Joe Biden can run circles around me. The

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<v Speaker 2>White House Press Secretary saying over and over again, saying

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 2>there's no cognitive decline here, saying that he's in perfect health.

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:18.200
<v Speaker 2>This guy is is a beast. You know, he's jacked

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 2>up aviator Joe. Now they're all actually having to admit

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 2>they're wrong, but no one's gonna, i think, call them

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 2>accountable for that. They're just gonna run out there and say, clearly,

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 2>it's time for him to step aside, step aside, step aside,

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 2>which is also weird because if you're not cognitive, you

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 2>don't have the cognitibility to be president in the future, right,

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 2>and they're saying he can't be the president come January again,

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 2>then when does the twenty fifth and does that even

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 2>come up? Because you're admitting that he's basically incapacitated.

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 3>Now, yeah, listen, we have seen reporters and we've seen

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Democrats lying about Joe's mental capacity for a long time,

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 3>and nobody fair and objective who watched tonight could conclude

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 3>anything other than this is a man who is seriously

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 3>mentally diminished. You know it's interesting Andrew Yang, who you remember,

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 3>ran for president against Joe in twenty twenty, he tweeted

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 3>out tonight, quote, look, I debated Joe seven times in

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty. He's a different guy in twenty twenty four,

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 3>hashtag swap Joe out that that's from one of the

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 3>alternative one of the other candidates who ran against twenty twenty,

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 3>from a prominent Democrat. Two of the top trends that

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 3>were trending tonight right after the debate were dementia and

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 3>Michelle Obama.

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<v Speaker 5>Now that's bad news.

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 3>I's if that's what's what is trending. And all right,

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 3>I want to wrap up tonight's pod with this. I'm

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 3>going to do something I have rarely, if ever done.

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 3>I may never have done this before. I'm going to

0:29:56.440 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 3>praise CNN this morning's debate. You and I both thought

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 3>Jake Tapper and Dana Bash would do a terrible job.

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 3>They both hate Donald Trump, they both have become hard partisans.

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 3>CNN did an excellent job tonight with this debate. Jake

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 3>Tapper and Dana Bash. That was the best debate moderation

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 3>they have ever done. They ask good questions, They asked

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 3>substantive questions. They didn't make the debate about them. One

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 3>of the interesting things no one is debating about the

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 3>moderators bad debate moderators. When Chris Wallace debated moderated, the

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 3>whole debate was about him because he wanted to be

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 3>right in the center of the show. When Candy Crowley

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 3>from CNN was the moderator between Obama and Mitt Romney,

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 3>she made it all about her. Jake and Dana they

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 3>asked good questions, They moved subjects along. They would press

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 3>the candidates, but not in a jerky way. They just say,

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 3>I asked you the following question, you have another sixty

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 3>seconds to answer. When they didn't get their questions answered,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a perfectly reasonable thing for a debate moderator to

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<v Speaker 3>to do. I've been in multiple debates that each of

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 3>them have moderated. I think they both were incredibly sensitive

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:09.959
<v Speaker 3>to everyone laying out the facts that they have shown

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 3>wild bias, and tonight tonight they didn't and they did

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<v Speaker 3>an excellent job, and I think that was a service

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 3>to the country.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to ask you one other question, because everyone's

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 2>asking it in their head right now, what is the

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 2>hold on a second?

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<v Speaker 4>Ben?

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't respond to that, and since you're a former

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 3>employee of CNN, I'm not gonna let you bet. Ben,

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<v Speaker 3>you have sixty two seconds. The question is do you

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<v Speaker 3>think Jake and Danna did a good job.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they did a decent job. And here's why

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna get them as much cred as you did.

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<v Speaker 2>You ready for this, all right, but I'm gonna make

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 2>you answer it. I'm not gonna let you wiggle away.

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Fair point. Here's what I'll say.

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I think they were in as much shock as we were, going,

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Holy crap, I'm watching an incapacitated president of the United

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 2>States of America, and they were caught so off guard

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 2>they said, just stick to the script, Just stick the script,

0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Just stick the script, like it was a default mode.

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Because because it was such a glaring disaster with Biden

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 2>that no one, no, none of the moderators were honestly

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 2>paying attention to Donald Trump.

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Jake and DNA were more measured than I've ever seen them.

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 3>They were deliberately controlled. They knew that half the country

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 3>viewed them as wild eyed partisans. Look, we played this

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 3>morning Jake analogizing Trump to Adolf Hitler. Yes, and I

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 3>still believe that to I think he believes it. But

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 3>tonight that didn't come out. And and so if we're

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 3>going to criticize him when when he's not doing a

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 3>good job, I will say.

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 5>I think they think that they did their job.

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<v Speaker 2>The biggest political train wreck in American history, and they

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 2>were in it and it was like, I don't know

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 2>what to do?

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 1>How do you triage this? And so they got rid

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 1>of some of that.

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I think if Joe Biden would have showed up jacked

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<v Speaker 2>up like you did at the say of the Union,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it would have been a completely different debate

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 2>from the moderators standpoint. But I think they saw what

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 2>everybody else saw, which was we have a present that

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 2>is incapacitated and the whole world is watching it now.

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 1>And no one can stop it.

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:15.719
<v Speaker 2>There was no one to step in and lead him

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 2>off the stage like Barack Obama did two weeks ago,

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:21.959
<v Speaker 2>Which brings me back to that question that everyone's asking,

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<v Speaker 2>how quickly will we find out if the conversations with

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden are going to work to get him to

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<v Speaker 2>step aside?

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<v Speaker 1>Number one? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>And number two, how quickly do Democrats have to fall

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<v Speaker 2>back in line and stick with this guy if he

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 2>doesn't decide to step down. And those are the two

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 2>most important questions. Maybe the entire night.

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<v Speaker 3>Three weeks, twenty one days, this happens or doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 3>In three weeks, I think you're going to have massive

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 3>chaos following this debate. You're going to have massive panic.

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 3>People are going to go to Michelle Obama. People are

0:33:56.320 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 3>going to go to Joe Biden. I don't think given

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 3>the train wreck that happened tonight, I don't think they'll

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 3>wait until after the Democrat Convention. I think they feel

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 3>a panic right now. I think they're going to want

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 3>Michelle Obama to be the keynote speaker at the Democrat Convention,

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 3>not Joe Biden. So I think we have twenty one

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 3>days for this to play out and look over the

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 3>course of the last year, I've handicapped this. I initially

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 3>laid it out as a possibility, then shifted as the

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 3>Democrats and the media we're starting to get nervous about

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 3>Joe Biden. I shifted to about fifty percent. As we

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 3>sit here today, I put the odds at north of

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 3>eighty percent that Michelle Obama is the Democrat nominee on

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:39.319
<v Speaker 3>the ballot in November of this year.

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<v Speaker 1>There it is.

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<v Speaker 2>This has been fun. It's shocking. It is crazy to

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 2>watch this debate in real time. Never watch anything like this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also fun doing a dual show with you with

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