1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hell that for me, I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: for a day? Edith state is that woof woof? And 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: them and tie. 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls. My 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 2: name is ty Hildebrand, joining me as always over there 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: in beautiful Chicago, Illinois during the day this time as 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: we record on Tuesday afternoon, and the one and only 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you? 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm good? May I say something? Please? Is the floor 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: fully mine? The floor is full of yours? So because 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: we are recording at at a much more normal human 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: time for our energies and our schedules. Now that you 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: have left the mysterious day job right and more, go 16 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: to verballers dot com. I took a shower before recording. 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: I really wanted to give you my best. And as 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm preparing to take a shower, I pop my shirt 19 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: off as everybody does to my knowledge, this one does. 20 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: And I'm waiting for the shower to come to temperature. 21 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: I like it above average, warm but not scalding. And 22 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm inspecting my torso because I'm just killing time waiting 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: for the shower to get to temp and I look down, as. 24 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: There are so many ways that this could go right now, 25 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: but continue. 26 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: I'm examining the topography. I'm an amateur cartographer here, I'm 27 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: mapping out what I'm seeing. 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: Real Rand McNally. And I notice a protruding settle settle 29 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: aggressive silver hair on my sterna my chest hair. I 30 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: don't have a lot of chest hair, but I see 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: it's it's really pronounced like I should have seen it sooner. 32 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: The rest is whatever dark brown that normally is. And 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: I realized that the inevitable march of time is relentless, 34 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: and these milestones come for us all. I mean, I 35 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: I guess that might be in poor taste as you 36 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 2: prepare to enter your fifth decade of life. 37 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: But but I said to myself, you know what, why 38 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: why get weighed down by pessimism and buy something like 39 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: that that that's a bad thing, when in fact I 40 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: could turn my energy positive, In fact, I could look 41 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: forward to what's to come. And then I started thinking 42 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: about our show today, and I thought to myself, what 43 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: is it about college football? What does the sport sell 44 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: the most of? What is the product of college football. 45 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: What can we turn positive from this experience? As I 46 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: wait for the temperature to get to my preferred I 47 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: don't know what, maybe like an eighty eight ninety two 48 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: degrees I haven't measured, And I thought to myself, college 49 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: football sells the sweet lady of hope right every year, 50 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: whether it's you know, a new coach being the person 51 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: to get your team where it needs to be, or 52 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: new coaches, new coordinators, new assistants, new recruiting lass, newly 53 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: healthy players, a schedule that seems beneficial, there's always that 54 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: hope that uh uh, it's this fall, it's this fall, right, 55 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: And so I wanted to center today's episode as we 56 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: stare down at our previews coming up starting what in 57 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: a couple days. 58 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: From Friday, right now will be our first ACC preview. 59 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: Yes, I want to get out of the blocks as 60 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: the Olympics begin this week with a major bang tie, 61 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: and I want it to be a positive, hopeful bang, 62 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. 63 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: So many mixed metaphors there, Dan, Where to start but. 64 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: Ompo mountains my mom see sorry. 65 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the solid verbal. I am ty, he 66 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: is Dan. Our residents, Silver Fox, don't forget to go 67 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: on out to verballers dot com if you are ever 68 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: so inclined, if you'd like to see the perplexed look 69 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: on my face via the video that we are currently shooting, 70 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: or if you are at all interested in learning more 71 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: about the big announcement we made last week about be 72 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: leading the Mysterious day Job, the MDJ as it were. 73 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: We did what it was, what it was was it, 74 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: talked it all. 75 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: Through, did an audio show. It is also available on 76 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 2: video for the premium for Ballers. We also made a 77 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: pretty big deal to the fact that we updated our 78 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: Patreon tears and we're really excited about steering into this 79 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: community that we've created. Last year was I think a 80 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: very successful test case for us. People were excited about it, 81 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: they gave us great feedback. We're going to do our 82 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: very best to improve upon that over the coming weeks 83 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: and months. So for ballers dot com is where you 84 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 2: can find out more about that. You've heard me drone 85 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: on here time and again about following us on social 86 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 2: media and all that stuff. But of course, of course, 87 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: as we steer into preview content, we're going to be 88 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: doing a lot more on social media as well. So 89 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: fun times ahead here as we get ready for that. 90 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, today is a hopeful episode, Dan, Today's we're 91 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 2: trying to steer into the handful of things that I 92 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: think you and I wish four for the. 93 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: Coms wish List twenty one wish list. Yeah, I think 94 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: we'll have nine ish total things I signed both of us, 95 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: like four and a half. 96 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, things, I have a hash I have a half 97 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,559 Speaker 2: as well that I'd like to get into. But since 98 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 2: you since you really did make this weird in the 99 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 2: beginning talking about great chest here. 100 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: You've never examined your body and thought to yourself, well, 101 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: not nineteen anymore. 102 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 2: I have more than just one great chest here. Okay, okay, 103 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: a little bit older than you, but okay, that's true. 104 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: There are men of a certain age who can definitely 105 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: relate to that sentiment and fifth decade. I wish it 106 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: weren't us, but unfortunately it is. Since you leveled that 107 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: upon us, Dan, why don't you start what is? Give 108 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: us a wish list? Your your first item? What rises 109 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 2: to the top for you? What is? 110 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know you want to get 111 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: into news? Do you want to get into news first 112 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: or anything like that. I don't want to talk about 113 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: the rose Rose bul is just going to make me angry. No, 114 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: the rolls. I mean, we have media days happening right now. 115 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: So if you're interested in coach quotes and optimism and hope, 116 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: I mean, media days would be a good place to start. 117 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: I saw Big twelve Kansas had to do virtual last second, 118 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: but sec media days are happening right now. Nothing I 119 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: don't think too crazy has come out about that. Oklahoma 120 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: got a huge commit for next year, so they're just 121 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: stacking five star quarterbacks. Mark Emmert, I'm seeing here two 122 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: point nine million dollars per year, eh, two point nine 123 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: million dollars, which is whatever you're worth, what somebody's willing 124 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: to pay you. But are we willing to come out 125 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: and say he's starting till somebody's willing to pay him that. 126 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how much longer they'll be 127 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: willing to pay him. That's that's the cabin after that 128 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: Supreme Court decision, and Mark Emmert is now like maybe 129 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: the Incitabla shouldn't be as powerful, Like he's starting to 130 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: read the room. 131 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: Mark Emmert's he's he's poking around late at night on 132 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: open doors to see what's out there for him? 133 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I did see Frank Soliz retired Ohio. So 134 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: there's never a really good time to do that with 135 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: recruiting and preps for the preparations for the season. But 136 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, at least getting the interim guy in there 137 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: for a full full fall camp and summer to figure 138 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: things out, it makes sense. So yeah, I mean had 139 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: a lot of success, so I think in terms of 140 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: news that's worthwhile. I mean, that's all I have. 141 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: That is the news you can use. Let's go to 142 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: our wish list, Dan, I wish for Mackenzie Milton, Okay, 143 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: very specific, very specific. All of mine are very specific, Okay, 144 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: and this could be because I'm working on my research 145 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: and my content for the Friday show where I'm going 146 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: to talk a lot about Florida State. 147 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: That's okay. 148 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: I really sincerely on a wish and a prayer and 149 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: fingers and toes cross. I hope Mackenzie Milton gets back 150 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: to his previous form, and I hope he does so. 151 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: I hope he gets back to health and dominance in 152 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: time for Week two against Jacksonville State, but not Week one. 153 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: It's a notre dame is week one. Week one now 154 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: you want to beat if you're Notre Dame, if you're 155 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: a Notre Dame fan like yourself or the many older 156 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: gentlemen and ladies who love Notre Dame, you want to 157 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: beat Florida State at full power. You want to take 158 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: the best of Florida State and give them just a 159 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: little more. I want Cone to outduel Mackenzie Milton and 160 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: come away from that game saying, man, Notre Dame has 161 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: beat a tough team. 162 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 2: Great Jack Cone out dueling Mackenzie Milton is not a 163 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: storyline I had in the back of my mind looking 164 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 2: forward at that game. But you know, the thing with 165 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: Florida State, Florida State has certainly had it's ups and 166 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: downs here over the last couple of seasons, and I'm 167 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: not going to say all that stemmed from the quarterback position. 168 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: Some of the uncertainty they've had, and it's just been 169 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: a part of it, right, It's a part of an issue. 170 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: It's not the whole issue. I think. Yeah, quarterback has 171 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: just sort of been underwhelming. Underwhelming. I wouldn't characterize quarterback 172 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: as the biggest issue that has faced Florida State these 173 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: past few years. 174 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: But having an electric quarterback having somebody who you can 175 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: trot out there and be confident in and not have 176 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 2: to ask questions about week in and week out. Sure, 177 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 2: that can do a lot for the morale of a program. 178 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: That can do a lot for what Mike Norvell was 179 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: trying to do with retooling the program. Recruiting has been sure, 180 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: I think optimistic. They've gotten some momentum there. So what 181 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: else can you let me rephrase, what better way to 182 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 2: get things really feeling like they're moving in a positive 183 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 2: direction than to take in this transfer who a couple 184 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: of seasons ago through for thirty seven touchdowns and over 185 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 2: four thousand yards at UCF. Get him back to his 186 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: previous form, have him utilize some of the talent that 187 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: you already have on the field in Tallahassee. I can 188 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: see no better, no quicker way to further that momentum 189 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 2: if you are Mike Norvel. So I am hopeful that 190 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: that happens. I'm looking forward to that happening, if only 191 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 2: because it'd be cool to have another excitable quarterback in 192 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: the ACC It'd be exciting to have another tester for 193 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: that Clemson defense, a Clempson defense, which by the way, 194 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: gave up a lot of big plays a year ago, Like, 195 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: there's so much that could be gained just from a 196 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 2: broad college football fandom standpoint, to have a really good 197 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: quarterback in Tallahassee in the form of Mackenzie Milton. I 198 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 2: really hope he does that in time for Week two. 199 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think just in general, I think quarterback recuperation, rejuvenation, whatever. 200 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 1: Because in that state, in Florida, we have Derek King 201 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: trying to come back from his own pretty huge injury. 202 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: It looks like he'll be in pretty good shape leading 203 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: what we hope to be a decent Miami offense. But yeah, 204 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: between Florida State and Miami, then across the country, we're 205 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: seeing situations where we've had transfers, just like new homes, 206 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: new fresh starts, and we hope because we as we 207 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: look across the landscape, it's not an amazing quarterback year. 208 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: At the top we have Spencer Ratler and Sam Howell, 209 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 1: of course Keaton Slovas at USC but a lot of 210 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: quarterback questions across the country. So if Mackenzie Milton is 211 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: able to be an answer and become one of those 212 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: top twelve eighteen quarterbacks in the country, certainly a huge win. 213 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: For Florida State, but a win for the ACC, a 214 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: win for you know, national quarterback conversation. I have something 215 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: very similar to this, but not exactly that. I have 216 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: an unexpected unit in the ACC emerges and starts just 217 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: gashing teams, laying the lumber whatever, or you know, giving 218 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: us a legit Clemson threat, clombs, clumps and a run it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 219 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: unexpected unit. Yeah, and not Jeff Bezos's rocket ship. We're 220 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: talking about a football thing here. It was very amazing site, 221 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: very phallic. But this is the list of units I 222 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: have that I would love to see e merge. Miami's offense. 223 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: We saw them struggle for long stretches last year against 224 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: some of the better teams or even some of the 225 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: more okay teams. North Carolina's defense, which they've recruited too well, 226 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: but did disappear for stretches as well Pitt's offense, because 227 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: their defense had really nice stretches during that season. But offensively, 228 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: you'd have a really nice game from Kenny Pickett connecting 229 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: with Jordan Addison, and then suddenly in they're just not 230 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: running the ball or they're just going these long droughts. 231 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: Pitt's offense Boston College's defense, Florida State's defense. You mentioned Milton. 232 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: You know, we're rooting for the re emergence there, but 233 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: it's really the re emergence of the secondary stopping anybody 234 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: tackling in the open field that's going to actually sway 235 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: Florida State's season in a bigger way. Louisville's defense was 236 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: a nightmare, and NC State's offense, of course, dealing with 237 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: quarterback issues last year. But I feel like if one 238 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: of those units is going to take two three steps forward, 239 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a legit Clemson challenger, but 240 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: it gets us well on the way there and the 241 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: conversation of the acc becomes a lot more interesting. Yeah, 242 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: I mean, any. 243 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 2: Of those things happen, I think, at least from the 244 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: standpoint of a Clemson challenger, it would have to be 245 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: PIT or NC State because perhaps you've looked at the 246 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: Clemson schedule. Maybe you haven't. It's seventy second, Oh of course, 247 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 2: seventy second in the nation in terms of strength of schedule, 248 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: and you know it's not necessary. That's fault the Georgia boost. 249 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: And that's what the Georgia boost. The Yeah, that's what 250 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: the Georgia boost. It's not necessarily Clemson's fault. It's just 251 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: the way it shakes out this year. The NC State 252 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 2: angle is very interesting to me because NC State brings 253 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: back eighteen nineteen starters depending where you look. 254 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: But they all do. They all everybody does. 255 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: Everybody does, and that's going to be a recurring theme. 256 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 2: I think Duke has twelve starters back this coming season, 257 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: and they're the least experience in the ACC. Okay, so 258 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: you know it is going to be a recurring theme 259 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: all throughout the conference, and we're going to get into 260 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: all this and much bunch more. But the NC State 261 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: storyline in particular, I might isolate. 262 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: It just to the wolf. I like that You've just 263 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: mega prep for the ACC and you're like, let's steep 264 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: dive State. 265 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 2: I'm not going to do that now. I'm not going 266 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 2: to do that now. I'm not going to do that 267 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: that you're so familiar where it's it's it's great. No, 268 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: I'm excited about NC State and if Devin Leary, I'll 269 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 2: focus on on Devin Leary. If Devin Leary can stay 270 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: healthy and if he can utilize perhaps the best backfield 271 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: in the ACC. He's got good receivers, he's got a 272 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: good line. That could be the X factor. And I 273 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: believe they play Clemson at NC State. Okay, so outside 274 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: of Larry he flashed last year before he got hurt. 275 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: Before he got he had the contact tracing thing early, 276 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: broke his leg late, so he was not really part 277 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: of the team. But now Bailey Howkman's gone, it's going 278 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: to be all Devon Leary. I don't know if they've 279 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: got much behind him, but Devin Leary in particular, I'll 280 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: focus on him. I'll save the rest for Friday. But 281 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: if he can emerge as I think the good quarterback 282 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: that many of us believe he can be, that could 283 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 2: a very interesting X factor for sure. 284 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Bailey Hawkman in that isn't is ops plus out 285 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: of like one hundred is the most average or something? 286 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: Isn't that is it? Am I getting that right? I 287 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: don't know. There are baseball stats where like the average 288 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: replacement level is one hundred and so maybe that that's 289 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: the Bailey Hawkman line. Walley Hawkman lining forward. He was fine, 290 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: he was totally fine. Uh yeah, same page. Agree. Do 291 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: you want me to go snake snake pick? Sure, snake 292 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: pick I'm going to go very specific, just like U 293 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: went specific already did the ACC thing, so I'm going 294 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: to leave the ACC and this is specific and selfish, 295 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: and I don't care. Oregon beats Ohio State is a 296 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: wish list of mine. Now, obviously I'm an Oregon fan, 297 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: a big Oregon fan, and this is something that's quite obvious. 298 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: But okay, I want them to beat Ohio State in 299 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: a very good game. Thirty five thirty two comes down 300 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: to the last drive. Maybe we get a huge stop 301 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: at the goal line, maybe we get a touchdown with 302 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: time expiring. Whatever, it's good for me, it's good for 303 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve, it's I think it's good for the 304 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: belief that the one percent are vulnerable. And yes, it's 305 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: laughable that I'm saying that Oregon is a scrappy underdog 306 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: compared to the top of the sport financially and otherwise, 307 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: but let me have this. I think I think it 308 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: would be good for the sport. And I say that 309 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: as an Oregon die hard, but to have that kind 310 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: of headline game early, have a dog win when we've 311 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: seen the heavyweights kind of dominate the sport recently, and 312 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: look the last time Ohio State was punched in the 313 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: mouth early in a non conference part of the schedule. 314 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they won a national championship. Now, they 315 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: had the Oklahoma thing and Baker Mayfield planted the flag. 316 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: But when Ohio State was considered to be a national 317 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: championship contender in the way that I think they are 318 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: this year, once again, they did win it when they 319 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: lost a Virginia Tech early on. So that to me 320 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: is a you know, it all rides on the right 321 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: arm of Anthony Brown to me, and what he's able 322 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: to do within that offense and how much control Joe 323 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: Moorehead truly has because it didn't seem like he did 324 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: last year. But the number of pieces around on that offense, 325 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: the returning line defensively big time talent. So I think 326 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: that would be great for the sport. But again, incredibly 327 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: biased narrative. 328 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: Well I have I have something that's actually quite similar, 329 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: and what I wrote is that I want some team 330 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: in the Pac twelve to be hot hot late into 331 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 2: the season mm hmm, and not cute hot, not the 332 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: kind of hot that, not the kind of right, the 333 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: kind of hot that you talk yourself into right, actually 334 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: appeal actually tangible sex appeal. Yeah, and good enough to 335 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 2: beat somebody outside the PAC twelve that glistening sure, And 336 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: I think that plays into your sentiment as well. I'm 337 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 2: not gonna say I'm rooting for Oregon to beat Ohio State. 338 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 2: I'm not really rooting for anything. It wouldn't make life interesting, 339 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 2: especially in these parts. 340 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 341 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: But it has been in earn what four or five 342 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: years before we had or since, we've had a Pac 343 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: twelve team make the playoff, And that was Washington in seventeen. 344 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: Yes, and they did not do anything in September their 345 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: non conference schedule, and again this was scheduled way in advance, 346 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: but they did not make a they didn't have a 347 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: splash win. No, and they played it was their Power 348 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: five opponent that year. And did they play Alabama and 349 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: get bombed. Yeah, but the defense ive quitted itself really well. 350 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: They just didn't have the offense and Jake Browning's shoulder 351 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: was bad and like I understand it, and then it 352 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: was relatively close and then both Scarborough I believe was 353 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: the one who opened it up with the long run. 354 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, you need you need to bring everything. It's 355 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: all hands on deck. If you're gonna play Alabama in 356 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: the playoff. They've lost playoff games, but Washington didn't quite 357 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: have the roster. But it's been a while. 358 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: It's been a while, it's been a minute, and it 359 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 2: would be I think a really nice story for the 360 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 2: PAC twelve to have that this year. So keep in 361 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: mind where the PAC twelve's at. The PAC twelve was 362 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 2: the last to resume play last year, and for all 363 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 2: intents and purposes, look at the stats, last season was 364 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: a black hole in the PAC twelve. Doesn't count for anything, 365 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 2: doesn't mean anything. I'm glad that they were able to 366 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: get a couple games under their belt, but I am 367 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: taking that all with a huge grain of salt. 368 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't really count for me. 369 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: And frankly, they've been cannibalizing themselves for the last four 370 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 2: or five years. Now they find themselves in this situation 371 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: where they've got the new conference commissioner. 372 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: Again, we don't know they've been cannibalizing. They just haven't 373 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: had a team that's been good enough. 374 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 2: I was trying to give the benefit of the doubt, 375 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: thank you very much. Yeah, now they're in this position 376 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: where they've got what's his name, George clavicle, that's what 377 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: we call him here on the show. They're again back 378 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 2: to this conversation of how can we make the PAC 379 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 2: twelve more relevant? How can we make the Pac twelve 380 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: more of a thing nationally? It would be nice to 381 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: have a team in contention, a genuine team in contention. 382 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 2: Oregon seems like the most likely candidate for that. 383 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: Maybe it's USC. 384 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to be USC. Maybe it'll 385 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: be USC. 386 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe somebody will surprise us. Quarterback and defense, 387 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: there are a limited number of teams that can say, Yep, 388 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: we've got a really strong quarterback, Yep, we've got a 389 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: really strong defense. I don't know if there are any 390 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 1: right now in the Pac twelve that can say that definitively. 391 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: I would love for there to be a conversation piece 392 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: out West late into the season, even if they don't 393 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: make the playoff conversation piece that at least moves the 394 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: narrative forward from the PAC twelve perspective. That'd be pretty fun. 395 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: What do you have next? 396 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 2: I wish for one of the other better teams, slash 397 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: better offenses in the Big ten East to truly. 398 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: Rise up and be more explosive, because I mean it's 399 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: Ohio State and who right now in terms of explosive offenses. 400 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: Actually, if you look at the numbers from last year, 401 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 2: it's Ohio State in Maryland, Okay. 402 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: And Maryland did have some nice Maryland. 403 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 2: Led the nation in terms of marginal explosiveness. They won 404 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 2: like two or three games, so they don't really count 405 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 2: along the lines of what I'm saying here, But. 406 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Minnesota win was also you take it if 407 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: you can get it. I guess you take it if 408 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: you can get it. 409 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm talking specifically about Penn State and Michigan Okay. 410 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 2: I would love for one of those offenses to achieve 411 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: its full potential. Neither one did last year. We know 412 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 2: that weird COVID year, Penn State tried to go a 413 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,479 Speaker 2: different direction with Kurt Sharaka. 414 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: I don't have the sound handy. I would play rock, 415 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: thank you. 416 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 2: But what was interesting about the Shiraka offense compared to 417 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: where Penn State was previously is under Joe moorehead and 418 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 2: Ricky Ronnie there was a lot more uptempo stuff. Kirk 419 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 2: Sharaka slowed it down, slowed it down a little bit, 420 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 2: and Sean Clifford has not materialized. 421 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: Maybe he will this year. 422 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 2: I'm not hopeful, but we can talk about that next 423 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 2: week when we get the Big Ten previews. Mike Yersich 424 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: is I think the guy they wanted all along, now 425 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: they got him. He is nothing if not a machine 426 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: for turning offenses into forty points per game. Yeah, mentioned that, 427 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: So I feel very optimistic that Penn State can get 428 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: there with him at the helms PA guy. Not that 429 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,239 Speaker 2: that matters is that this year though, I don't know. 430 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, And that's why this is I wish. 431 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 2: You're hopeful. That's why this is going to wish as 432 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: opposed to more of a certainty, because it feels very confident. 433 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: Somebody to throw a haymaker back at Ohio State in 434 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: that division offensive I do. I do. 435 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: I think your sitill eventually get there. I don't know 436 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: how long he stays at Penn State. 437 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: Who knows. 438 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 2: He's moved around a bunch mm hmmm. I do feel 439 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 2: like he will get there if he is given enough 440 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: opportunity to do so, but I don't know if it's 441 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: this year. And that's why it's a wish, because Penn 442 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: State in the there I call it Hey today of 443 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 2: Joe moorehead and Trace McSorley and and some of the 444 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 2: dynamic playmakers they had out why that was a lot 445 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: of fun to watch. That was a ton of fun 446 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 2: to watch, and it'd be good to have that component 447 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 2: elsewhere in the Big Ten East outside of Columbus. Columbus 448 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: will have it this year. There is uncertain about their 449 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 2: quarterback situation, but we know there is an uncertainty out 450 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: wide because they probably have the two best receivers in 451 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: college football. 452 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and probably the two best you know, the tackle 453 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: duo in college football. Yeah, so I remember Bama. Yeah. 454 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 2: I just want there to be another offense in the 455 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 2: Big Ten East that is excitable, that plays with pace, 456 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: that can score explosively and on a moment's notice. And 457 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: I hope it's Penn State or Michigan. 458 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: It would be nice to rank rank for me the 459 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: offensive explosion like leihood offenses in the Big Ten East. 460 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: If Penn State is at the top, or maybe this 461 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: is just your wish list of who you most wish 462 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: and then next after that, what is your wish list 463 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: of offensive explosion in the Big Ten East. Well, wish 464 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: list is different than a projection, right, okay, because again 465 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: last year, Maryland was very good at that. I'm not 466 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: going to put Maryland at the top of my list. 467 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: My wish list, selfishly speaking, would be Penn State, will 468 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: be Penn State or Michigan one of those two. 469 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: I think both of those squads have the talent that 470 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: you would need to rise up and really at you know, 471 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 2: if the wind blows in the right direction, maybe give 472 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: Ohio State a game. Indiana is interesting. I like Indiana, 473 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: Uh huh. They would probably be next on that list, 474 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 2: follow by Michigan State and Maryland and Rutgers in that order. 475 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: My number one pure wishless Big Ten East after Ohio State, 476 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: is Michigan State, because I don't know what their fans 477 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: would do watching explosive fun offense, like what do I 478 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: do with my hands? What do I do? This is 479 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: weird to watch. I don't know how to react. Good 480 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: back to me is my wish that Michigan State fans 481 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: suddenly have a creative explosive I don't necessarily think it'll happen, 482 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: but maybe eventually it does, and I would just be 483 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: happy for them to experience because even the best of 484 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: Michigan State, I think the twenty fourteen had a really 485 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: efficient scoring offense. Whatever the the Connor Cook, there was 486 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: some year where they were just they scored a bunch often. 487 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: It wasn't you know, it was pretty straightforward. If they 488 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: were to have that, I would be happier for them 489 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: than I would be for Penn State or Michigan or 490 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: Indiana or whoever, just because it's such a novelty. All right, 491 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: where are we going next? My next wish is it's 492 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: it's I guess it's more of a national wish. It 493 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: could happen anywhere. But what I have down here is 494 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: the top HALFISH doesn't have to be the top half, 495 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: but half ISH of a conference beats the hell out 496 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: of each other in crazy entertaining fashion every week, giving 497 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: us a fun alternative to playoff talk. Almost like we're 498 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: looking at a season within a season and you know, 499 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: maybe it's teams within the SEC and we get a 500 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: bunch of shootouts. Unlikely, but we get a bunch of 501 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: fun games where we don't fully know who's better than who, 502 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: And that to me is interesting. If you know LS 503 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: who's you know, both sides, I guess really if LS 504 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: Who's offense in particular gets back to seventy eight percent 505 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: eighty two percent of where they were a couple of 506 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: years ago, and they've got a couple of really interesting 507 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: quarterback options. If Arkansas takes another step forward, if miss 508 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: gets a little bit better on defense, they become interesting. 509 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: If Mississippi State looks like late season Mississippi State. There's 510 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: all these ifs, of course, but even out west, I 511 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: just want somebody to have six to eight teams where 512 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: maybe it's not quite as pronounced as the twenty eight 513 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 1: Big twelve where we had that three way tie at 514 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: the top, but you're just like, man, I don't know, 515 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: this could go in whatever direction, and it's going to 516 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: be entertaining in the process. It's not going to be 517 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: fifteen thirteen. We're going to get some sort of like 518 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: exchange of leads that makes these games fun. And so 519 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: that's what I'm hoping for. Could be Big ten, could 520 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: be Big twelve, could be Pack twelve. And that sort 521 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: of rides in conjunction with I don't want walkover teams 522 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: this year. I don't want Kansas to be Kansas. I 523 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: don't want Vandy to be Vandy. And I understand we're 524 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: talking about first year coaches and we have to be 525 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: patient starting all over again. But where Rutgers was, where 526 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: Arizona was last year losing by sixty points in a 527 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: rivalry game. I just I want, in conjunction, the top 528 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: half of a conference to be unpredictable and competent, high level, 529 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: and I want there to be no walkovers within the conference. 530 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: I want everybody to at least make your all feisty 531 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: team aloe everybody. I want to rope everybody in to 532 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: just they've got they've got an out pitch, they've got 533 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: something in the tank that scares everybody even a little bit. 534 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: And so if we get no walkovers and teams at 535 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,719 Speaker 1: the top, just and maybe it's not the team at 536 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: the top, but it's everybody else looking like okay, they're 537 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: just they're beating each other up and the TV is 538 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: too good to ignore within that conference. That's what I'm 539 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: hopeful for. 540 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: So am I to believe then that you are focused 541 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: mainly in the SEC here because you called out a 542 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 2: bunch of SEC teams. 543 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: I'd like that to be the case, but I'm okay 544 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: with it in any conference. I truly am like if 545 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: Max Duggan takes a really nice step forward, as does 546 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: Spencer Sanders, the Big Twelve becomes seventy percent more entertaining 547 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: and worthwhile. Right, Yeah, because we sure we know certain 548 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: things about Iowa State and Oklahoma at this point. We 549 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: know that their competence level is above everybody else's. We know, 550 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: even if Texas is inconsistent, if they can beat anybody 551 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: in any given week, the Big Twelve is better. Same 552 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: goes for TCU. If Baylor's offense takes a really nice 553 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: step forward, the Big Twelve has generally been pretty good 554 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: about this. Kansas State has always been a threat to everybody, 555 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: but some of those teams that have had those especially 556 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: offensive deficiencies. You know, West Virginia is due. We hope 557 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: to take a nice step forward. I just want the 558 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: anything can happen narrative within conferences to overtake some of 559 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: the national stuff that we keep recycling at the top. 560 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: That's all I want. 561 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: What do you think the likelihood is if we go 562 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 2: around the power five conferences of this actually happening? The 563 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: SEC I think is a good example. I don't know 564 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: the likelihood of it. We can talk say specifically, there 565 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: are really good teams at the top. You've got Alabama, 566 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: You've got Georgia. You've got a whole host of other 567 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: teams that I think on any given day could could. 568 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 2: I mean, who knows what to There's an entertainment case 569 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: for a number of teams. It's probably more in the 570 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 2: West right now, just because we're dealing with New South 571 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 2: Carolina coach, you know, Georgia and Florida. There's there's easy cells. 572 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: Hey, Lshu, LSU. 573 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 2: You could make a case for LSU having an incredible 574 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: season or a terrible season, depending on you know, howactimistic 575 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: you are. So I think the SEC for sure falls 576 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: into that category. I don't see the same potential necessarily 577 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: in what I would characterize as the top half of 578 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: say the ACC, but in the. 579 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: Top outlined I outlined what I want to happen there. 580 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: My hope for the top half of the ACC. I 581 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: understand that. 582 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 2: But my point is, if you go one rung below Clemson, 583 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: the competition to be in the top half of the 584 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 2: ACC sands Clemson is going to. 585 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: Be real interesting at all. 586 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, very interesting. The Big twelve has a 587 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: long storied hish of cannibalizing itself great, especially in the 588 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: top half, so it's doable. The PAC twelve and the 589 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 2: Big Ten. You know, you could tell me. I think 590 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: the PAC twelve is very much ripe for that college. 591 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, the entertainment case throughout the conference is pretty high. 592 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,719 Speaker 1: I just don't want those walkover team or teams whatever 593 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: within the conference and the SEC. Like here, here are 594 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: the full list of teams that I don't think is 595 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: a terribly difficult entertainment cell. Okay, Florida, Georgia, Missou, and 596 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: the East. I'm sorry, Kentucky, Tennessee, South Carolina, Andy. I 597 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: just I want to see more on offense from all 598 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: of those teams, basically Alabama A and M Auburn. Well, 599 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: the Auburn entertainment case is very tough right now. So 600 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: I'll say Alabama A and M lsu Ole, miss Arkansas, 601 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: Mississippi State, and I guess Arkansas excuse me, Auburn is 602 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: wait and see. But there's a whole host of teams 603 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: after Bama, and after Georgia and probably after Florida where 604 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: you're saying, I can see how they'd be entertaining week 605 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: to week, even if they're not fully scary. I can 606 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: see how they'd be entertaining watches, and that'd be wonderful 607 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: all right, let me go to my next wish here. Yes, 608 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: I wish for Texas. Oh god, because I'm now a 609 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: Texas Home Slice. Yeah, I wish for Texas. That's an 610 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: actual pizza place in Austin, really Texas Home Slice. 611 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 2: It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Not the best in town, 612 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: but it's pretty good. I wish for Texas. I wish 613 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 2: for Steve Sarkisian to actually harness the power of. 614 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: One Bejeon Robinson. That's a good answer. I have something 615 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: similar in my halfish continue. I do not care if 616 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: they win three games. Texas fans don't care. 617 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: I don't care. Just freaking use a running back, Okay, 618 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 2: just I for as fun as Sam Ellinger was, oh yeah, 619 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: for as much of a gunslinger and how he played 620 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: with with grit and determination, and he was truly a 621 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 2: great face of that program at all time beck Meyer QB. Yeah, 622 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: an all time beck Meyer Beckmeyer syndrome. For as much 623 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 2: as I enjoyed Sam Ellinger and gave him benefit of 624 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: the doubt, just freaking use Bshon Robinson. 625 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I do not want to. 626 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 2: Look at a stat recap at the end of this 627 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 2: season and see another year like the one that we 628 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 2: saw where again it's a quarterback leading and rushing attempts 629 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 2: even two years ago. Even two years ago, Kyante Ingram 630 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: only led by fifteen carries over sam Ellinger fifteen carries 631 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 2: and I believe six yards over sam Ellinger and Kanta 632 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: Ingram had finished the twenty nineteen season pretty impressively, so 633 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 2: pretty like they weren't try but he had injuries and 634 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 2: then you had Roshan Johnson. Yeah, I understand. Just use 635 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 2: the running back and I have faith that Steve Sarcusan 636 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 2: is going to be able to do that right, and 637 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 2: I understand that sam Ellinger gave them something. He gave 638 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: them physical tools that were it was an X factor 639 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 2: for sure. Use Jon Robinson, please, because every preview magazine, 640 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 2: every Preview website, every Texas thing that I look at, 641 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 2: the Texas wishes that I read about, all feature Bijon Robinson. Yeah, 642 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 2: it'd be nice to have something more of an offensive 643 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 2: identity that runs through Bejon Robinson, because he very clearly 644 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 2: in my book, is the best offensive talent that they have. 645 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I'm sure the narrative that you've come 646 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: across is can Steve's Arkesian do for Bijon Robinson what 647 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: he did for Najie Harris. We're going to talk too 648 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: after the break. I just look on my half list. Sorry, continue, 649 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: and I know. 650 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 2: That's old hat and I'm not trying to give kind 651 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 2: of the hackneyed, overused down. So it's fine. This is 652 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 2: your wish list. I want to see it. Yeah, I 653 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 2: don't give what the narrat. I want to see it. 654 00:33:59,520 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: Personally. 655 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: I want to see it because I think that would 656 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: make our lives more interesting as college football fans. So 657 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 2: please Sarkisian if you're listening. He's not listening, but if 658 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: you are, if it gets back to you the way 659 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 2: our Kirkshirock is sound, maybe got back to Kirkshruck. 660 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: Just pay. If you're listening, Steve Sarkisian, please drop a 661 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: note to Burnt Orange Boy b o I at gmail 662 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: dot com. That's ties Burner, but maybe not maybe now 663 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: an orange boy e use. I actually have in my 664 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: half list that I was going to rattle off, which 665 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: I'll still rattle off at the end of this, but 666 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: I have an all purpose freakazoid emerges. I'll uh, you know, McCaffrey, Tavon, Austin, whoever, 667 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: that's somebody that is returning kick somebody that's you know, 668 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: split out wide Reggie Bush and the way he was 669 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 1: with usc uh, somebody like that. And b Jon Robinson 670 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: has shown both out of the backfield, I see a 671 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: receiver and a running option. He's has huge potential. 672 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 2: Unpacked the Freakazoid a little bit because we already do 673 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 2: the dude alerts, yeah, and the Dude of the Week 674 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 2: and that sort of thing. So what is the difference 675 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 2: between a Freakazoid. Because I'll make a sound for this 676 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 2: now I have the time. Was there not a cartoon 677 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 2: called Freakazoid. 678 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm looking it up. 679 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 2: Talk to me about the difference between the dude and 680 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 2: the Freakazoid. I feel like they are from a different genus. 681 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: Freakazoid produced by Steven Spielberg. It was I think in 682 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 1: the Tiny Toon Adventure cinematic universe. Okay, very specific Freakazoid, 683 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: but the adventures of the title character Freakazoid are crazy 684 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: superhero who battles with an array of super villains. I 685 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: don't know if it was good. It look I mean, 686 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: the Freakazoid looks like a freakazoid. Ed Asner was a voice. 687 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: Craig Ferguson was a voice. Okay, so that's where I 688 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: got that from. Anyway, the difference between a dude and 689 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: a freakazoid is a dude generally does his job exceptionally well. 690 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: A freakazoid does many jobs exceptionally well. So a freakazoid 691 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: is an all purpose dude, Mike as I make this 692 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: up on the spot, right, Okay, So would someone that's 693 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: that's a rattle off one for me, that's not an 694 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: official one. 695 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 2: Would someone like a Kyle Hamilton potentially be both a 696 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 2: dude and a freakazoid. Because for as much as the 697 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 2: defensive leadership at Notre Dame is not interested in Kyle 698 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: Hamilton playing both ways, there been plenty of people talking 699 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 2: on the Notre Dame boards about maybe he could play 700 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 2: a little receiver this year. 701 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: My god, does. 702 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 2: That rise to freakazoid territory? 703 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: If he plays receiver? Sure? If he returns ponds, sure, 704 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's not unheard of a safety stepping in 705 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: from some special teams, return teams whatever. I'm going to 706 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: repurpose our Laquantosaurus rex sound for freakazoid this year. I'm 707 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: sure there's an actual theme song though for Freakazoid that 708 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: we could all Okay, we're gonna you can find that. Yeah, yeah, 709 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: So that's my related Bejeon Robinson because he's absolutely a 710 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: candidate to emerge as a twenty twenty one freakazoid. What 711 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: else do you got? So I have we get a 712 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: new coastal, a new coastal Carolina in addition to current 713 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: coastal Carolina. Somebody creative and they don't have to be creative, 714 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 1: but in some way fun. And I want them beating 715 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: or upsetting the good teams on their schedule, especially early on, 716 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: to launch themselves into a lightning in the bottle type season. 717 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: And I have some candidates and I have their opponents 718 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: early on. Okay you would indulge me, please, no, go 719 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: for it. So the one who could actually have the 720 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: most or the two that could have the most pronounced 721 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: impacts to me. Both in the MAC Western Michigan and 722 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: Kent State both have quarterbacks, both have interesting coaches, and 723 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: both have two not insignificant Power five teams on their schedule. 724 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: Western Michigan has Michigan and Pitt Kent State has Texas 725 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: A and m in Iowa. If both or one of 726 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: those teams even splits even splits those, which is asking 727 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,479 Speaker 1: a ton That's pretty magical to me. I have app 728 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: State has Miami, Louisiana has Texas, which for whatever reason, 729 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: you're just penciling in for Texas. We've got Fresno State 730 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: with Oregon Nevada and Carson strong and two really strong receivers. 731 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: No pun intended with cal Hawaii has UCLA, San Jose 732 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: State with usc FAU which I'm still you know, I 733 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: think Willie Taggert at the group of five level can 734 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: be pretty frisky. They have Florida. Marshall has nobody, so 735 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: that doesn't fully fit in, but Marshall's promising. I'm a 736 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: new coach, so we'll see. Uabs Georgia Tulsa, who is 737 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,479 Speaker 1: very quietly, very very good last year, has Oklahoma State. 738 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: UCF has Louisville, but I think if they lost to 739 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: Louisville that would be kind of enough set that'd be 740 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 1: a problem. We'll see. It's Gus Melson's first season, and 741 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: of course SMU has the Iron Skillet game with TCU. 742 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: So in terms of promising teams that could launch themselves 743 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: into in season and it's not like Coastal had my 744 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: memory serves an interesting Power five opponent early on that 745 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,240 Speaker 1: they upset to launch themselves into their sort of magical 746 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. But on that same note, I think any 747 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: of these teams has they have pieces, and now they 748 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to take advantage of a stage to 749 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: launch themselves. That's a wish of mine that one or 750 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: a few of those teams just you know, throw, they 751 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: just land a punch really early on that gets everybody's attention. 752 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 1: Land a punch. Yeah, I do like that boxing baseball. 753 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: I have all of the analogies. 754 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 2: I believe if I saw correctly that Coastal Caroline, Coastal 755 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 2: Carolina may have the second easiest schedule in all of 756 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 2: the FBS this year. So okay for all into and 757 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 2: I don't care, and I really don't. I'm excited to 758 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 2: watch Coastal's follow up campaign. But you know, Coastal could 759 00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 2: itself be launched into that conversation just by ver to 760 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 2: beating everyone on its. 761 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: Scheduled this year. Yeah, I mean, but they're not. They're 762 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,760 Speaker 1: not going to emerge. They're not going to emerge. Wells 763 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: a known quantity. Grayson McCall, the intern he's emerged, and 764 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm looking right now one school I left off, But 765 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: I really do like Malik Willis. I don't believe Liberty 766 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: beyond Syracuse, which could be truly bad. They don't have 767 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: a headline or Power five team on their schedule. They 768 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: have all Miss never mind Liberty, Ole, Miss, Matt Corral, 769 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: Malik Willis. That's November, so it's not really launching at 770 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: that point. It's they are what they are. But that 771 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: would be an addition to the list. Okay, what else, 772 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: you guy? I think that's all of them. Oregon beating 773 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: Ohio state units emerging sounds dirty. Then intended a new 774 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 1: coastal and a top half ish of a conference establishing 775 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: themselves as the premium entertainment product of the sport. My 776 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: half wish, and then I'll rattle my have Yeah, I 777 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,959 Speaker 1: have one half wish here, and it's sort of tongue 778 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: in cheek and sort of eleven eleven of course, but 779 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: my my half wish, my snarky wish. Again, this is 780 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 1: going to be focused on the ACC because I've been 781 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: going a lot through the ACC. Dang. 782 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 2: Okay, But one interesting factoid that I'm sure we will 783 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 2: discuss when we do our a sec preview is the 784 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 2: fact that. 785 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: Dj interest Tom Hammond. 786 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 2: It would definitely interest Tom Hammond. Their new starting quarterback, 787 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,720 Speaker 2: dj ud dj Uyangalle. Oh, you nailed it Big Sinco 788 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 2: as it were? 789 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 790 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,399 Speaker 2: Oh, hold on? Are we calling him Big Sinco? They're 791 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 2: calling him Big Sinco? Oh? 792 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 1: Is that true? Is that already a nickname? 793 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 2: He's two hundred and fifty pounds, they're calling him Big Sinco. 794 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 2: Big Sinco is pretty good, and I believe it's Big 795 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 2: sink of Sinco with a five instead of the sea 796 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 2: and Sinco. 797 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: Oh. I'm not on board with that at all. 798 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 2: I don't like that generally unless it's the eight in like. 799 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,959 Speaker 1: Scaling, it's not of Spanish speaking origin. But I still 800 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: stand by Big Sinko is pretty good. 801 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 2: I want him to be happy and healthy and have 802 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 2: an awesome season. There's also nobody behind him right now 803 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 2: other than a walk on. It's like nobody because their 804 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 2: actual backup got hurt in the spring game, and so 805 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 2: it's it's pretty slim Pickens. Now he's big and bulky 806 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 2: and he'll be able to I think withstand the punishment 807 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 2: of being a starting quarterback, especially behind a really good 808 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 2: offensive line. I think, I think he'll be okay, But 809 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 2: I don't mind it if the questions about quarterback depth 810 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 2: at Clemson linger just long enough to pin Dabbo Sweeney 811 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:43,280 Speaker 2: down on his now infamous policy against transfers. Oh all right, because, 812 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 2: as I think we've come to know over the last 813 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:50,399 Speaker 2: year two years plus, pinning Dabo down and getting him 814 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 2: to defend an opinion on record can sometimes be ridiculous, 815 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 2: can sometimes be fun for us types here in the 816 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 2: content creator world. So I wouldn't hate that. I don't 817 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 2: wish for injury. I wouldn't hate for that narrative to 818 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:08,320 Speaker 2: just persist and to evolve over the course of the season. 819 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,479 Speaker 2: For one Dabot it did get a little bit dark. 820 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 2: I apologize by the way, I really who did we 821 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 2: do this with recently? Where we're just like, oh, I said, 822 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 2: I hope Tommy DeVito is really good, because the temptation 823 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 2: to say Tommy Defto is going to be two that 824 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 2: it's gonna pull too strongly. Right, So I hope Big 825 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 2: Sinco is great because Big Stinko is right there for 826 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 2: the game day sign makers. It's right there, and I 827 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 2: don't wish that on anybody makes me notice Big Stinko. 828 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 2: I don't want that. Am I a third grader? 829 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,959 Speaker 1: At times? Yes? At times yes, and I steer into 830 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: it and I'm self aware, but I can't have that 831 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 1: because I'm rooting for DJU. What what happens? What happens 832 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: if if Clemson lays a total egg against Georgia and 833 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: game day shows up at a future Clemson game, which 834 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: probably isn't going to be the case, but we are 835 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: going to get see big Stinko signs. And I don't 836 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: want that to be the case, but it is the 837 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: most obvious move if Clemson's quarterback is at all disappointing 838 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: and it's not fair and it's not right, but it's 839 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 1: going to happen. That's all eleven. Please. It's like it's 840 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 1: like naming a TV show You're the worst, and like 841 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: it better be good because the headlines are going to 842 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: be very easy if it's not a good show, extinct 843 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: and supposedly it was a good show. Continue, Okay, my headlines, 844 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,800 Speaker 1: my wishes that I want to rattle off, my half wishes. 845 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: We not only get an emergency quarterback, but we get 846 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: an emergency system. And it works in the way that 847 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 1: when all of Baylor's quarterbacks got hurt and they were like, ah, 848 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: we're running some sort of weird like single wing. I 849 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,280 Speaker 1: will that again, the old Dennis northcut Cleveland Brown's offense. Right, Yes, 850 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 1: I want an emergency system. I want somebody to break 851 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: the glass like Week eleven and have to run an 852 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: emergency system. I want thunder snow. Don't know what it is, 853 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 1: but I like in it. Yeah, I mean, is it 854 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: just snow and thunder happening at the same time? Weird environs? 855 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,760 Speaker 1: Right right? Okay, that's fun. I want a new playoff team, 856 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: a team that has never appeared in the playoff to 857 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,320 Speaker 1: appear in the playoff. Is it Iowa State? Is it Florida? 858 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. Is it Michigan probably not? Is a 859 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: usc could be, I don't know. I want a new 860 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: playoff team. I want this is very specific, a fifty 861 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 1: five plus yard game winning multi doink field goal followed 862 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 1: by an amazing taunt. Okay, I want to combine good 863 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 1: doinks and kicker taunts into one half. 864 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 2: Wish the links and taunts could be an interesting album, 865 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 2: could be an interesting. 866 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: Art Say that was a yellow card B sides album. 867 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: I want a touchdown score on a double turnover. Somebody 868 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: throws an interception, but then the safety fumbles and an 869 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 1: offensive line picks it up and rumbles in love a 870 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: good rare double turnover touchdown. I want an alternative cooler 871 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 1: celebration somebody dumping fries or confetti or something that's not 872 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,720 Speaker 1: gatorade or some sort of sports drink on a coach. 873 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 1: Has that ever happened? Yeah, the Potato Bowl we had 874 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 1: fries tatable. Yeah, the fries tatable had fries. Yeah, you forget, 875 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: so soon you forget. I want a new kind of 876 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: kick return trick play. So now we've had the team 877 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,280 Speaker 1: trying to camouflage in the end zone. Sometimes it works, 878 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't. When it doesn't, it really doesn't. But whatever, 879 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 1: I think those are fascinating. You have like the fake 880 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: reverse or you have the reverse whatever. I want some 881 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: sort of new kickoff special play, trick play touchdown. I 882 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,319 Speaker 1: want a new kind of comically failed trick play in 883 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: the way that we had the Arkansas State. I believe 884 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,320 Speaker 1: the fake corpse passing out on the fake punt went poorly. 885 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 1: I want everybody running to I don't know, Twitch or 886 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 1: some sort of illegally streamed game because it's only on 887 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 1: some sort of private channel something where it's only on 888 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 1: the Longhorn Network or only That could be streaming situation. 889 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 2: That could be the future. Plus that could be the 890 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 2: future for your PAC twelve man. If George Clavicle doesn't 891 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:10,240 Speaker 2: come through. 892 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: Just twitch illegal illegal streams on twitch twitch, they'll reinstitute 893 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 1: Jefferson Pilot Sports or something like that. That's true. I 894 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,479 Speaker 1: want a new multipurpose large man, so I guess it'd 895 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: be a large man freakazoid, a lah Christian Wilkins, you know, 896 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: getting in there in goal line situations, special teams, trick 897 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,240 Speaker 1: plays on special teams. I want a new Christian Wilkins. 898 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: I believe it was also Christian Wilson Wilkins who did 899 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,800 Speaker 1: the splits after winning a national championship. That would be 900 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: great too. I want a player immediately monetizing a famous moment. 901 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: I want them to do it well, okay, if it's 902 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 1: a kicker. I don't know if it's an offensive lineman 903 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 1: who scoops and scores to win a game. But I 904 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 1: want somebody to have a moment and then the next 905 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 1: day we see them in like a Jersey Mike's commercial, 906 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 1: or we see them in like something substantial, like somebody 907 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 1: really cashes in on a crazy mom. That'd be great, 908 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:06,239 Speaker 1: couldn't Speaking of which, Yeah, couldn't they do the thing 909 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,280 Speaker 1: with the winning quarterback or the MVP of the national 910 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 1: championship where they are now also going to Disney World. Yeah, 911 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,280 Speaker 1: but I think it's by individuals, so they so Disney 912 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: World would have to go to a bunch of players 913 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 1: and say, well, if we deem you to be the 914 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: guy and you've won, we'll pay you. Okay, it's a 915 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: little trickier. Interesting. And then my final one is I 916 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 1: want up and coming, up and coming coaches to continue 917 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 1: to return to their school and to continue building and 918 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: achieving more and more success, like both Luke Fickle and 919 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 1: Matt Campbell did last season, and that could surely had 920 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 1: opportunities and conversations, but they're like, yeah, this is the 921 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: best place for me. 922 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 2: That could be something that we see happen as a 923 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 2: result of an expanded playoff. Potentially that could be one 924 00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:58,839 Speaker 2: of the pros. 925 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't necessarily think I think there's just 926 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 1: going to be an ego about the amount of money 927 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,840 Speaker 1: you can be paid, because I know the term that 928 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 1: people like to throw around is generational wealth, but it's 929 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 1: it's an ego thing, right, There's it cannot be And 930 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm not going to speak for coaches, but if you 931 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: are coaching at the group of five level and a 932 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: major Power five program offers you and you feel like 933 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 1: you'd be a good fit, it's the track record is 934 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: that it's nearly impossible to hold out forever. And the 935 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: track record suggests that sometimes coaches who do hold out 936 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: lose a window right to take advantage of those opportunities. 937 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: It's like trying to play a stock market, right, It's 938 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: a little bit of that. And so we also don't 939 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 1: know the financial situations of these coaches, and you know, 940 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: sometimes the coach would want to stay and they feel 941 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 1: more at home, but like I'm left with no choice. 942 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 1: It's just too much money. So I am hopeful that 943 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 1: we'll see more and more of that, But at a 944 00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: certain point the resources are going to be too vast 945 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,879 Speaker 1: and an enticing to make a move from a Sun 946 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,360 Speaker 1: Belt team up or a Mountain West team up. But 947 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: I hope we're able to squeeze every last drop of 948 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,399 Speaker 1: those experiences while they're happening, I hope, And. 949 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 2: That's probably goes without saying, I hope we're able to 950 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 2: achieve some sense of normalcy in twenty twenty one after 951 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 2: the year we all had. And I'll just keep this 952 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,479 Speaker 2: within our little sports lens here, twenty twenty was far 953 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 2: from normal. I would hope for more of a normal 954 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. I don't know what protocols look like 955 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 2: in different places around the country. Yeah, I hope we 956 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,479 Speaker 2: can have full stadiums. I hope we can avoid looks 957 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 2: like well, the risk of further outbreaks, any COVID related issues. 958 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 2: I hope we can put that in the rear view 959 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 2: mirror now and focus on some of the things here 960 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,799 Speaker 2: that we've discussed today that would be in spite of 961 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,760 Speaker 2: it all like that would be the best possible outcome. 962 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 1: We agree. 963 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 2: Okay, yes, Well, appreciate everybody stopping by. Don't forget to 964 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 2: go on out again to verballers dot com and find 965 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 2: out about the fun, cool stuff that we are doing. 966 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 2: Bonus stuff that we are doing out on the Patreon 967 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,320 Speaker 2: again verballers dot com. We are going to be posting 968 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 2: on Friday the very first of our preview content we 969 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 2: are starting in the ACC. We are also going to 970 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 2: be posting on Friday on our website, solidverbal dot com 971 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 2: the very start of our launch into editorial, which is thematic, 972 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 2: and we'll actually deal with some ways that you can 973 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 2: tell that college football is getting back to normal, a little. 974 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: Bit of a preview. So going out, sator, you mean 975 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 1: the written word, the written word dot com? Yeah, the 976 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 1: written word. Yes, you don't need any more of our 977 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 1: here high flute and descriptors. Thank you. 978 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 2: We also will be sending that out via newsletter, as 979 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,880 Speaker 2: will every Friday. You're going out to newsletter dot soliverbal 980 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 2: dot com if you want to sign up for that 981 00:51:59,120 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 2: as well. 982 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 1: The newsletter of intent and ty. How does it feel 983 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,880 Speaker 1: to do a mid day show unencumbered by the now 984 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 1: less mysterious day job. You can find out more for 985 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 1: Ballers dot com. We dedicated a whole episode to that. 986 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,359 Speaker 1: Thank you for supporting the show via Patreon. Yes, how 987 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 1: does it feel? 988 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,360 Speaker 2: This is the first show, the first show in eons 989 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,839 Speaker 2: and you know, in thirteen years since we've been doing 990 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 2: this show. Yeah, okay, this is probably the very first 991 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 2: show where I went an entire block of audio without 992 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,359 Speaker 2: dropping a marker in my file that I would have 993 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 2: to go back to later and fix because I screwed 994 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,799 Speaker 2: something up, and I attribute that to the fact that 995 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 2: I can now focus on this, I can think clearly 996 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 2: about this instead of rushing from A to B. I 997 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 2: can actually enjoy my conversation with you. 998 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 1: I love it. It feels pre damn good. It feels 999 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,960 Speaker 1: great on this end too. I can't tell you the 1000 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: number of times where I'm sure you've had to go 1001 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 1: and find those markers for I think between twenty fourteen 1002 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:08,799 Speaker 1: and twenty nineteen, you rarely pronounce Cincinnati, not Cincinoki, and 1003 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 1: You've had to go back every single time, and it's 1004 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 1: just your mind is elsewhere and I got now, it's 1005 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:14,920 Speaker 1: not now. 1006 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 2: It feels good to be able to focus on this 1007 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 2: good and enjoy the conversation. It does not necessarily mean 1008 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 2: him anymore, right, But are you. 1009 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 1: Going to get in like amazing shape? Are you going 1010 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,400 Speaker 1: to get Jack else? What are you gonna do with 1011 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,319 Speaker 1: the rest of your freer? I mean, we're still working 1012 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:30,799 Speaker 1: on a bunch of different things here, but what are 1013 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,359 Speaker 1: you gonna do with like a more normal nine to five? 1014 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 1: Have not figured that out yet? I have not handing yet, Jacked. 1015 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 1: I know you've got a bump shoulder. 1016 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 2: I can't get jacked on the left side of my body, 1017 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 2: but maybe the right side. Maybe I can have like 1018 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 2: a Roger Fetterer thing going on where I have one 1019 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 2: huge arm and one that's just. 1020 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,879 Speaker 1: Yeah rougha has that too. Yeah. You see how I'm 1021 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 1: withholding a response to that because that's a newly mature me. Yeah. 1022 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: Could you swim though and build up because that's not 1023 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 1: gonna deal with as much trauma. Yeah, you can build 1024 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 1: up your arms swimming without like you're not lit, but 1025 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 1: you can't get You can't get jack swimming, can you? Oh? Yeah? 1026 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: I mean in their swimming jack like Ryan Lochtey and 1027 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 1: Michael Phelips, they were like they had a ton of 1028 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:14,319 Speaker 1: lean muscle. Sure, but they clearly were I mean they're 1029 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 1: crosstrating doing something. Yeah, okay, So like six pack? Do 1030 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 1: you want to just like hammer your core in a 1031 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,520 Speaker 1: way that you've never hammered your core? Do you want 1032 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,120 Speaker 1: to read a new author that you've been meaning to read? 1033 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 1: What is the next item? 1034 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 2: I am desperately in search of some sort of workout 1035 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,880 Speaker 2: regimen that does not require weights, because I don't want 1036 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 2: to have to leave my house and go to a 1037 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 2: gym for it. I prefer like the body weight type stuff, 1038 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 2: if stuff if I can't. A ski erg is a 1039 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 2: ski erg. You've told me about these, Yeah, my friend 1040 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,840 Speaker 2: Can told me about He claims he was briefly the 1041 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,839 Speaker 2: US ski ERG champion. Okay, maybe for his age group. 1042 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 2: I forget. 1043 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 1: Uh. A skier is almost like a vertical rowing machine. Okay, 1044 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 1: and you've told me you've done rowing machines. I've done. 1045 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: So the cables you reach up. I'm using my arms 1046 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:04,799 Speaker 1: right now. You reach up for the cables and you 1047 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 1: bring them down almost like I don't know what, like 1048 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 1: a a lasso of something. I don't know, but you're 1049 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 1: you're ripping them down. And so it's a full body 1050 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 1: a ski erg. So you're not I don't think you're 1051 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 1: dealing with as much resistance, but you're generating force. So 1052 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: it's both. I mean, it looks really difficult but cool, 1053 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 1: and it's cardio and wade at the same time. Look up, 1054 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 1: it's I think it's s K I E R G. Yeah, 1055 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 1: that's my that's pitch number one to you ski What 1056 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: other workouts? Could you box? Could I buy? Probably could box? Yeah, 1057 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 1: your shoulder wouldn't be too affected. By it, you're making it. 1058 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:41,760 Speaker 1: It's there's impact there. 1059 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 2: I want I want suggestions from the verbarhood on this one, 1060 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 2: because my guess is, my guess is after years of 1061 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,399 Speaker 2: not doing research on this, there's a lot out there. 1062 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 1: So suburb at Gmail, do you want like sport competition? 1063 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:56,720 Speaker 1: Like do you want to be playing a sport against 1064 00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 1: somebody as a workout or do you just want sort 1065 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 1: of solitude and training? I just want straight training. You 1066 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 1: want straight so you got skier, you got boxing, swimming, running, 1067 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,960 Speaker 1: I think you find looking I'm looking for something I 1068 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 1: could do at. 1069 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,240 Speaker 2: The house, which is not necessarily you ski. 1070 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 1: In there, You've got room. This is my problem. This 1071 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 1: is the year. Maybe this is a new discord Verballer 1072 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:22,360 Speaker 1: Patreon activity. 1073 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 2: This is the summer of the summer of tie right. 1074 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,279 Speaker 2: I don't think it's I don't think it's cheap. Well, 1075 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,720 Speaker 2: soliverbo Gmail dot com as always is the email. Verballers 1076 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 2: dot com is a Patreon Go and check it out. 1077 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 2: We will be back on Friday again Friday morning, starting 1078 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 2: up previews. Gonna start with the ACC, Gonna jump right 1079 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 2: in with Clemson, Gonna talk about the Clemson Tigers and 1080 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:51,080 Speaker 2: all teams on the what is that Atlantic side that's 1081 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 2: this coming week, that is coming on from Friday and 1082 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 2: then Monday we will jump over to the other side 1083 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 2: of the conference. I just sent you an image of 1084 00:56:58,480 --> 00:56:59,760 Speaker 2: how a ski erg works. 1085 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,919 Speaker 1: God, oh god, that's a little chat. Take a look 1086 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 1: and you tell me. I don't know about this. I 1087 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,400 Speaker 1: think you could pull it off. I could the skier 1088 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 1: though it's about seven feet tall. I know you don't 1089 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,960 Speaker 1: have low ceilings. Okay, I think you could do it. 1090 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:24,479 Speaker 2: For that guy over there. Yeah, my good friend silver Fox, 1091 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,120 Speaker 2: dandrub and Steve from myself, Tie Hildebrand. We will be 1092 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 2: back on Friday morning. Get your preview content right here 1093 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 2: sliverble dot com. We'll talk to you all soon. The meantime, 1094 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,320 Speaker 2: stay solid, peace,