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Speaker 2: we are underway. What's up, everybody?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast presented by bet MGM.

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Speaker 3: This is your Player Projections episode for Week fifteen of

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Speaker 3: the NFL. I'm your host, Chris Raybond of the Action Network,

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Speaker 3: and on this show, we're gonna run through our top

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Speaker 3: players at each position, discuss players we're especially high and

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Speaker 3: low on this week, and of course we'll throw out

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Speaker 3: a player prop for each position as well. Joining me

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Speaker 3: the top ranker in the industry right now, been for

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Speaker 3: a long time odds maker, Sean Kerner, fresh off to

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Speaker 3: convince me sweep.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Sean? Yeah, what's up? Let's hope I could hold down

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Speaker 2: the fantasy pro sport for now. We'll see after this week.

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Speaker 2: Had a good week, but it was sandwiched between a

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Speaker 2: bad beat on Thursday night and a bad beat last night.

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of Yeah, it runs. When I was

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Speaker 2: pissed off. We were hanging out after the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: I went like eleven and one of my bets, but

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Speaker 2: I lost the tea against MVP. I wanted us to

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Speaker 2: both win that we both had wis last night. You know,

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Speaker 2: Love overthrew him on a few targets. I think he

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Speaker 2: could have easily cleared it, and then he left the

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Speaker 2: game with an ankle injury. So that was a disaster.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that number is way too low, but

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Speaker 2: hopefully it gets better and hopefully he'll be next week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was kind of my week.

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Speaker 3: I probably I probably mushed you because my weekend props

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Speaker 3: was just a bunch of those just like could not

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Speaker 3: get one to drop. Uh, you know, sides defined, but props.

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Speaker 3: It was just like every prop took it seemed like

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Speaker 1: I think I think my.

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Speaker 3: Like partner in crime has changed because last year, I

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Speaker 3: know you and I, when we were on the same prop,

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Speaker 3: they went like they might have lost like once.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: This year it's when me and Simon are on the

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Speaker 3: same side for prime time because we usually disagree, so

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Speaker 3: every time we've been on the same side it's just crushed.

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Speaker 1: Like we were on the Cowboys this week on Sunday Night, Boom,

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Speaker 1: no sweat. So that uh, probably my fault.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm just pissed like all of all of

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Speaker 3: these good receivers and players keep getting hurt, like Stroud

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Speaker 3: is hurt, don Tate, like all the guys we love

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Speaker 3: just keep going down.

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Speaker 2: Got hurt too. The te yeah are just dealing with

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Speaker 2: a ton of injuries right now. Yeah, the whole league

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Speaker 1: Not Trevor Lawrence though he's good.

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Speaker 2: He's good.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, well we'll get into uh, we'll talk through

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Speaker 3: all this stuff. You know, pretty get it gets kind

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Speaker 3: of crazy this time of year that the injuries. Certain

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Speaker 3: But I will start a quarterback where uh yeah, but

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Speaker 3: I think a pretty pretty standard week here. Who you

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Speaker 3: got in the top five.

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Speaker 2: I don't know I have I have a pretty spicy

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Speaker 2: guy in my top five, but I have Jalen Hurts,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I got pretty in my top five too.

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Speaker 3: So I can't even say that spicy because I means

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Speaker 3: especially against the Patriots, where you just don't know exactly

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Speaker 3: many ways. You know, the Patriots offense is a wild card.

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Speaker 3: Will they will they force the Chiefs to have to

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Speaker 1: He like give it and he taketh away, but he's

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Speaker 2: To that was the ultimate experience. I mean, that was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not over the Chiefs in reality either, which

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Speaker 3: is then therefore not helping people in fantasy, because it

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Speaker 3: seems like everyone in this preseason we were all trying

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Speaker 2: They're all cheap, you know.

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Speaker 3: I think we both like Rashi Rice and as a

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Speaker 2: How how would that have been scored? So Kelsey would

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Speaker 1: Tony those things where it would be like a zero

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Speaker 1: You can't get yard that cat that you could get yard,

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Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey tight end one this week? Who is it?

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Speaker 2: Everybody just ranks Kelsey number one. But I think this

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't The Patriots don't really intimidate me anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but you know I don't.

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Speaker 3: I just it's more so like you just don't know

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Speaker 3: what to expect from their offense. It's more of a

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Speaker 1: Receiver, and he's not. He's not a wide receiver. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna he could they could do different things with him,

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Speaker 3: So many more difficult decisions to make this weekend, Travis

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna be on the under? Uh? Every year

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Speaker 1: around this time, I feel like you're on a Kelsey under.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I have completely given up on that. I

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Speaker 2: already made that one of my rules. Okay, just don't

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Speaker 2: bet him. I'm not gonna bet is over, but I'm

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Speaker 2: certainly not betting his under.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of overs, who are you high in at quarterback

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Speaker 2: So, assuming Gino Smith is held out again this week,

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Speaker 2: I really like Drew Lock. So right now he's my

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Speaker 2: be in the streamer discussion, you know, just all things considered.

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Speaker 2: He has one of the best wide receiver trios in

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Speaker 2: you know, sneaky rushing upside. So this is a spot

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Speaker 2: I think Drew Lock is your guy. So he's the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you're like the injury with braph Like

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Speaker 3: gave me a Taysom hillprop for tight end last week.

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Speaker 2: I think Taysom's in well. To be fair, we talked

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Speaker 2: but I think that Taysom hill injury was a you know,

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Speaker 2: sneaky player for the under in that game. But yeah, like,

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Speaker 2: I don't even think he was hurt heading out of

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Speaker 2: in any way getting anybody hurt here. But I think

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Speaker 2: don't think there's that much of a drop off between

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Speaker 2: either quarterback right now, so I'm thinking I'm leaning towards

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Speaker 2: them playing Drew Locke, but it's so early. Who the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the thing about the Seahawks, for anybody

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Speaker 3: that doesn't know, is Pete Carroll is like the most

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Speaker 3: misleading unintentionally misleading coach when it comes to injuries. Some coaches,

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Speaker 3: like you know, Belichick, they'll just kind of deflect on

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Speaker 3: purpose to you for gamesmanship. But Pete Carroll, you could

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Speaker 3: ask him about any injury if it's before game time,

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Speaker 3: and he'll have just this super optimistic like you know,

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Speaker 1: He'll be ready to go, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you know, guys, a game time decisions and he's out.

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Speaker 3: So you know, the only thing is Seattle really needs

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Speaker 3: It's not Hall of Fame because Mike Evans future Hall

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Speaker 2: So to me, yeah, I'm right there with you. He's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what they're gonna do every week.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna give Kyri Williams twenty carries, Cooper Cup like

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Speaker 1: I always have a ten yard range for passing yards

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Speaker 1: Okay, that sounds like I'm looking at my projection. That

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Speaker 2: doesn't even matters a little LOI though.

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00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: Like I think it, yeah, ninety nine point of it something.

437
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: I've run the numbers, so.

438
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go under because I think they're you know,

439
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 3: Cleveland played the Rams, who are humming on offense, and

440
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 3: then they played the Jaguars, who you know, feisty with

441
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 3: Lawrence the Bears. I think it could be a little

442
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 3: bit of a different game script. I think you get

443
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 3: you know a lot of runs and fields. You know,

444
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 3: fields could turn the ball over and they could lose

445
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 3: a possession or two. So that's a great line because

446
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 3: it's exactly what I have and it's Tuesday, but I

447
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 3: will I'll lean under.

448
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's always a great way to think about it.

449
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 2: Passing our props aren't necessarily just about the quarterback and

450
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 2: throwing the ball. It's what is the other team doing?

451
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 2: Are they forcing more passes or you know runs? So yeah,

452
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 2: I think that I'm down on the Bears offense this week,

453
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 2: so maybe that could lead to Flacco just throwing a

454
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: bit last year.

455
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I got an idea, like for some

456
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 3: off season content we could do, like we should just

457
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,479
Speaker 3: do pod where we actually just like instead of like

458
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 3: player projections because there's no you know, players to project,

459
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 3: just kind of talk about that, like passing yard projections

460
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 3: in like what makes them, what makes you raise or

461
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,719
Speaker 3: lover from their baseline because like we've talked about this

462
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 3: every week on like Tuesday Wednesday, when props first get released,

463
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 3: like we'll be off like twenty thirty yards on some

464
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 3: of these passing props, and then by the end of

465
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 3: the week, it's like Dell converge to the numbers we

466
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 3: had in the first place.

467
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, we're like, did we miss something? Did I miss something? Yeah?

468
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, we talked about that in the discord. Like

469
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 2: during the game, I usuld just say, you know, even

470
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 2: if we have like the under on a passing yard prop,

471
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, if he throws for a ten yard touchdown

472
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: on this play, that is amazing for under. Like, there's

473
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 2: times where you actually want to root for a quarterback

474
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 2: to throw for a touchdown and a lot of people

475
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: are like, wow, I didn't even think of it that way.

476
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, when it comes to projections, you kind of

477
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: have to be thinking about the game script and things

478
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 2: like that. So Lock goes into it. Would love to

479
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 2: dive in it to you when we have, you know,

480
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 2: a lot more free time.

481
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to running back? Who got in

482
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: top filf so.

483
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: I got well, KURTI McCaffrey obviously, then Kyron Williams number two,

484
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 2: Zach Moss, Bjeon Robinson, and then it's a tie. I'm

485
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 2: gonna give the tie to Rashad White for number five.

486
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 1: Let me guess the other tie, Alvin Kamarack or Saquon Close.

487
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: They're both right there. It was neither one of those

488
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 2: guys though.

489
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: Oh who is he?

490
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 3: Joe Mixon ooh, okay, okay, I got yeah, McCaffrey, Karen Williams,

491
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 3: Zack Moss, Kamara four and Rashad White five.

492
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,959
Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah, yeah, I mean I have Kamara just below.

493
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 2: I feel like Taysom's returned Mike Dingham a little bit,

494
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: but otherwise it sounds like we're right there for the

495
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 2: top six or seven.

496
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 1: Who are you high on?

497
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: So right now I'm high on ty Chandler. He's my

498
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 2: RB twenty one because Alexander Madison is dealing with the

499
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 2: ankle injury. The extent is unknown, but I think there's

500
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 2: a decent chance he does miss this week, so I

501
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 2: think we'll finally get that ty Chandler spot start here.

502
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: I think it was a few weeks ago we thought

503
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 2: Madison was gonna be out and he ended up playing,

504
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: so you know, as a gamer, he might fight through it.

505
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: But if ty Chandler does get the start, I think

506
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: he's gonna get as much work as he can handle,

507
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: which might not be twenty plus touches, but maybe for

508
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 2: one game they do extend him a bit. You know,

509
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 2: he's a bit of a smaller back. I don't know

510
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: if he can handle a full workload, so we could

511
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 2: see Kennedy Nawangu mix in as the change of paceback.

512
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: But I do like this matchup for Chandler because you know,

513
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: the Bengals have struggled against the run all season, and

514
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: you know, if Nick mullins his quarterback, I think it's

515
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: more likely he's going to be checking down to his

516
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 2: running back than Josh Dobbs would. So I do like

517
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: Chandler's upside as a pass catcher as well. So I

518
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 2: think if Madison does end up getting ruled out, there's

519
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: a chance Chandler might crack my like top fifteen. So

520
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 2: either way, if you're in a league where he's available,

521
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: you have to add him. And there's a chance he

522
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 2: could be a top twenty back this week.

523
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a throwback to the times when Dalvin

524
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 3: Cook was out and uh and yeah, you'd you'd rank

525
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 3: Madison is like a top ten back. And of course

526
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 3: Dalvin Cook got the nominal start last week, by the way,

527
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 3: so that's everything's comes full circle.

528
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: Seriously.

529
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 3: Speaking of coming full circle, Zeke Elliott is back as

530
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 3: a starting running back, and if he loved him last week,

531
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 3: love him again. This Week's reportedly Ramondre Stevenson dealing with

532
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 3: a multi week injury there. They're saying that he's not

533
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 3: out for the year yet, but or at least they

534
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 3: haven't announced him as such, but it sounds like he's

535
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 3: missing another week.

536
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: And I talked about this last week.

537
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 3: Zeke played ninety four percent of the non remandre snaps

538
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 3: in the game you went down last week, one hundred

539
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 3: percent of the backfield snaps. The only time he came

540
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: off the field was when they went empty and did

541
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 3: not use a running back. Twenty nine touches, one hundred

542
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 3: and forty one scrimmag yards and a touchdown for Zeke

543
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 3: last week. In the last two weeks combined, fifty touches

544
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 3: including eleven catches. So PPR are still doing things. Fifty touches,

545
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty two scrimmage yards and a touchdown.

546
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 3: And Kansas City is something of a run funnel here

547
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 3: as long, you know, for as long as you could

548
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 3: keep it close, which has been easier to do with

549
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: all the receivers just vomiting on themselves.

550
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: So Kansas City is number.

551
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 3: Five in pass defense DVOA and thirtieth against the run,

552
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: and some of that is by design. Obviously when you

553
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 3: have my homes and you are comfortable letting teams run

554
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 3: on you, so they they might stack the box a

555
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 3: little more against z. But we've seen his Patriot offense,

556
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 3: especially with Bailey's appy.

557
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 2: Really with everybody this year.

558
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 3: Is they have to run the offense through the running back,

559
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 3: whether it's in the receiving game, whether it's handing the

560
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: ball off, whatever they're doing, it has to go through

561
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: the run back. And with Stevenson out, Zeke is the

562
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 3: Patriot offense. So Zeke is my rby seven Harvey twenty

563
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 3: two in consensus. I was like probably ten ten, seven

564
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 3: to ten spots higher on him last week too than

565
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: the good census. I just think, I know it's ugly

566
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: because you know kind of when you think of Zeke,

567
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, he's watched all he can do his

568
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 3: short yardage. But we know running backs like the talent

569
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: when you when you have that much volume, you're getting

570
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 3: your point in every snap. Doesn't matter how fast you

571
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 3: can run or how you know quick you are moving

572
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 3: left and right, you're gonna get you know, two to

573
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 3: four yards on most touches, you know, on average.

574
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: So that's all we need here from from Zeke. So

575
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: it was Zeke this week against Casey.

576
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in my top ten as well. Last week

577
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: I was calling him dollar Store Zach Musk. He might

578
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: just beat Zach Moss.

579
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: He beat out Zack Moss in terms of fantasy production.

580
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. But a lot of

581
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: the running back moves they've made the past week, it's

582
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: just so clear that he's the only Bathor to give

583
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: touches to because they they made Michael Hasty scratch. Yeah,

584
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: and then they didn't even let Kevin Harris or Thyme

585
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: Montgomery get any carries and they cut time mont Gmery.

586
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so have our receivers. So Montgomery must they cut

587
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: it from two positions of need.

588
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, no kidding. So yeah, like you just you have

589
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: to project Zeke for just massive volume, like you said,

590
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: the efficiency at that point really doesn't matter. So yeah,

591
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: he's he's in my top ten as well.

592
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: Who are elon?

593
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: I'm low on Austin Eckler, and you know, as I

594
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: like to do on Tuesday, I just let my raw

595
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: projections ride and as of now he's my RB twenty,

596
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: which is weird to say, but you know, he's he's

597
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: really struggled as a runner this season. I think maybe

598
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: he's been just playing through an injury, maybe playing it down.

599
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: But now now that you know Justin Herbert's out for

600
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: the season, this is you know, lost season for the Chargers.

601
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: You know, I don't see them really just giving Eckler

602
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: a ton of work. Plus the offense just won't provide

603
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: him with as many goal line opportunities. With Easton Stick

604
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: onundr center, that's really been you know, what's been fueling

605
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: Eckler's fancy value this year. And Stick might be less

606
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: willing to check down than Herbert Stick if given opportunity,

607
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: he does have some pretty good rushing upset, he might

608
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: scramble at an even higher rate than Herbert. Did you

609
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: know before last week's game, the Chargers or the Beat

610
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: reporter was saying, I guess that they were looking that

611
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: maybe split work between Eckler and Kelly, And it was

612
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: actually Isaiah Speller who saw quite a bit of work.

613
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: So maybe they're just trying to evaluate twenty twenty four

614
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,239
Speaker 2: and beyond, and they might limit Eckler's work here and

615
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 2: he doesn't have as much touch on upside. So just

616
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: all these factors had him fall all the way down

617
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: to RB twenty for me, you know, it sounds insane.

618
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: I might budge him up a little bit, but just

619
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: the raw projections to begin the week are not good

620
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: for usn Eckler.

621
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was, you know, I heard those reports and uh,

622
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: you know, the reports were like Spiller was gonna be active.

623
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: It seems more like Kelly.

624
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: You know, they they.

625
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 3: Like Spiller overtook Kelly, but they said they were gonna

626
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 3: ride the hot hand, and obviously we're still the most

627
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 3: likely player of those guys to get the.

628
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: Highest It's interesting.

629
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 3: I actually thought he actually thought he looked as good

630
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: as he's looked at year, you know, since week one,

631
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 3: at least last week. But yeah, I do have him

632
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: RB fifteen, so you can't project him for quite as

633
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: much work and snaps.

634
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: As as you could most of the year.

635
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: But you know, short week uncertainty at quarterback. Yeah, it's

636
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 3: it's it's it's ugly. I mean, they there is a

637
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 3: chance they just ride him and give him like the

638
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 3: most touches he's had. But you know, like you said,

639
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 3: the without Herbert, the touchdown equity goes way down.

640
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: The Chargers are.

641
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: Implied for fifteen and a half points at Vegas because

642
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: the total is thirty four and the three point underdog.

643
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,239
Speaker 3: So I mean with Herbert, I don't think they've ever

644
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: dropped below maybe like nineteen and a half, eighteen and

645
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 3: a half at Browist. So this is, yeah, the touchdown

646
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: equity which ecker tends to live on these days because

647
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: he's not as efficient, uh, is way down. So yeah,

648
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: I think he's he's definitely an RB two at this

649
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 3: point with obviously with RB one upside, but yeah, not

650
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 3: the same as you know, we.

651
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: Thought he was right there with McCaffrey coming into the year.

652
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: Nope. Now if you two overall, you're none stoked about

653
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: having him as an RB two going into the fantasy playoffs.

654
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, might have drafted Justin Jefferson, and

655
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: I mean he's Eckers on the field now for both

656
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: the games. But I am low on Gus Edwards at Jacksonville.

657
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: He's my RB forty one, he's.

658
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 3: RB thirty three in consensus, so consensus starting to come

659
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: down on him. But this guy is just very very

660
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: touchdown dependent at this point. So in the right league

661
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: or no art right situation, maybe you still you know,

662
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: go ahead and roll them out. But if you're looking

663
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 3: for a high floor, Gus Edwards is no longer it

664
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: because he's no longer the Ravens every.

665
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: Week RB one.

666
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: I mean he might be some weeks, there might be

667
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 3: some weeks he gets the most touches, But it really

668
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 3: seems like they're making a concerted effort to get Keaton

669
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: Mitchell involved and Justice Hill is still playing on a

670
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: ton of the passing downs, so they're using a full

671
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 3: blown three way committee. And in the first eight games,

672
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: Gus Edwards average thirteen just over thirteen carries forty eight

673
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: percent of the snaps. The last five games, he's down

674
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 3: to eight point four carries per game and he's playing

675
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,479
Speaker 3: just one third of the snaps on average. So in

676
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 3: the first three games of this downturn, of this five

677
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 3: game downturn, he had twenty eight carries combined in those

678
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 3: first three games of the of this downturn, but he

679
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: had five touchdowns on those twenty eight carries. That is

680
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 3: so ridiculously improbable. Just to give you an idea, the

681
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 3: average NFL runner is gonna get a touchdown about once

682
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 3: every thirty to thirty three carries on average. Five touchdowns

683
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 3: on twenty eight carries across three games no less, so

684
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 3: like it kept going. But anytime he doesn't score a touchdown,

685
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 3: he's just unlikely to give you a massive yardage total

686
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 3: because again, he's not getting the touches. He's not getting

687
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 3: the work in the passing game where it's easier to

688
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 3: get out in space, you know, slip a tackle and

689
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 3: you could get a forty fifty yard game. It's just

690
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: the environment for Edwards right now is it's just completely

691
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 3: touchdown dependent. So alright, be careful with him this week.

692
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 3: All right, let's see prop I'm gonna go.

693
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: With Will Aaron Jones play?

694
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: I know right? No, it's to fifty.

695
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, let's go back to let's go back to

696
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: this since it's a Saturday game yet again, so people

697
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 3: are gonna have to make a decision on the Pittsburgh backfield. Oh,

698
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 3: let's go Jalen Warren total rushing and receiving yards, and

699
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 3: let's go with let's go sixty and a half.

700
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 2: Ooh, I had a very nice sixty nine and a half.

701
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: Ready to go. I'm gonna go over. I'm gonna go

702
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 2: over because since we're combining it, I usually just take

703
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: the average because we can get an explosive play from

704
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: either a run or a catch, which kind of helps

705
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: negate the Median effect a little bit. So I like

706
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: his upside here. I think this game could be a

707
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: sneaky shootout where he could get, you know, pretty involved.

708
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 2: In the past game, you know, Colts play heavy zone.

709
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 2: So yeah, give me the over. It's nice to finally

710
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 2: be on a warn over. I feel like you had

711
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 2: me take like a nausey over every week. It's nice

712
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 2: to be back on team Warren here. I mean, yeah,

713
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: we're oh, we're gonna say I'm gonna say yeah.

714
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: I mean if only the Pittsburgh coaching staff is on

715
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: team Warren.

716
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: Because it's didn't touch and go. No shit, we thought

717
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 1: he was gonna be like Warren smashed once they fired,

718
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: it's actually gone in the opposite direction.

719
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: Where do you have these guys ranked? I have him

720
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 2: both right there at like RB twenty four, RB twenty five.

721
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: Yep, that sounds let me check. I think I have

722
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: him a couple of spots lower, but yeah, back to

723
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: back right around there.

724
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: I have Harris twenty nine Warren thirty one, So I'm

725
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: a little lower on I guess the running game as

726
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 3: a whole Indianapolis has been better, you know, so they

727
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: remember they lost Grover Stewart for what he's suspended for

728
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 3: six games. They're splits with him on and off have

729
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 3: been completely different.

730
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: He's been much better with him on on the field.

731
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: So just factor that in a little.

732
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 3: But uh yeah, it's it's it's definitely something that people

733
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: are gonna have to think about and side on because again,

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Speaker 3: Gambling problem called one eight hundred gambler wide receiver top five.

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Speaker 2: You got Tyry kill Cede lamb Okay, so Tyry Kill

744
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: assuming he plays Ceedee Lamb, Deebo Samuel, Michael Pittman, and

745
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 2: aman Ral Saint Brown.

746
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: Ooh, that's some new faces in there.

747
00:37:59,400 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 2: I like it.

748
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: I got I got Lamb number one just because I

749
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: am factoring in a little bit of uncertainty with Tyreek.

750
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 3: So Tyreek number two for now and it's Jets defense,

751
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 3: A j Brown three, Deebo Samuel four, and then a

752
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: mon Ra number five. So love Pittman, but just like

753
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 3: he he doesn't get as many touchdowns as I like.

754
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 3: I love the you know, eight nine catches, it's always

755
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 3: like eight nine for like eighty five.

756
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: I needed to get in the end zone more? Was

757
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: it like his rookie year?

758
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 3: He also struggle to score touchdowns I think. So it's

759
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 3: been Yeah, it's been touching though, but I mean I can't.

760
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 3: I did not see these eight catch you know, week

761
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 3: in week out, Keenan Allen catching numbers.

762
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, weekend week out.

763
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 2: So he might have to face Joey Porter Junior quite

764
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 2: from here, so I might doc Tuesday morning. You know,

765
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 2: it's high, high level stuff. But once I dig into it,

766
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: he'll probably get a bit of a hit based on

767
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: the match up. But either I love having him my

768
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: top five. Like you said, it's just the consistency with

769
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: them always putting up you know, massive reception numbers, even

770
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: if there's no touchdowns. There just a really you know,

771
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 2: solid pick. If you took him, what was he like

772
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 2: a low end wide receiver two this year.

773
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: He might even dropped into the thirties and some because

774
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: I remember his Richardson wasn't expected, you know, to get

775
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 1: Hirst early.

776
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, so just Minshew taking over. That's when

777
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: I said, that's that's gonna be good news for both

778
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: Pittman and Downs just you know, more volume.

779
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,959
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Who are you high on our receiver this week?

780
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 2: I'm really high on Amari Cooper against the Bears. He's

781
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: my wide receiver eighteen. And you know, Joe Flacco has

782
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 2: injected some life in this Browns passing offense. It's rare

783
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 2: you see a team turn to its fourth starting quarterback

784
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: of the season and it makes the passing offense better.

785
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a really rare thing. But we have

786
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: to be factoring that in because that's what's happening right now.

787
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: It's it's also you know, pass foll matchup here against

788
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: the Bears. Although the run defense is kind of leaky

789
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: against the Lions. I do think they'll get it back

790
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: together here, but I could see Flacco throwing it around

791
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 2: again here. And Cooper has seen a target on thirty

792
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: one percent of his routes with Joe Flacco under center.

793
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 2: I mean, that is just an elite level. So we

794
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: have yet to see like a true big game from

795
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: Cooper with Flacco yet, but with that kind of underlying usage,

796
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 2: it's definitely coming. And drome Ford looks like he's dealing

797
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: with the wrist injury. He might not play, so it

798
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 2: could be just cream Hunt back there, so it could

799
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: just lead to a couple more passes. So again, like

800
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: I just think all the underlying things are there for

801
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 2: Cooper to have a big game here with Joe Flacco,

802
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: you know, really injecting some life into this offense. Yeah,

803
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: I'm high on Cooper as well.

804
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: I think, you know, as long as he's healthy, he's

805
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: gonna command targets. He had fourteen targets last week in

806
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: a game that the Browns were leading pretty much wire

807
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: to wire.

808
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 3: So I mean, Jalen Johnson has played really well on

809
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 3: the perimeter for Chicago, but you know, at the end

810
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,479
Speaker 3: of the day, Cooper's gonna get peppered with targets most likely,

811
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: regardless of the game script, and with Flacco, a lot

812
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 3: of them are going to be downfield, as they Cooper's

813
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 3: been going downfield a lot more this year than he

814
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 3: has been in years past. His yards per catches is

815
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 3: up there, so yeah, I have him wide receiver twenty one.

816
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: I have him about five catches for seventy uh So yeah,

817
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: this is uh. I think people are a little bit

818
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: too well on them as well.

819
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm high on guy. You're high on last week. I

820
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: love him.

821
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 3: This week he didn't go didn't do a whole lot

822
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 3: last week. You know the quarterback situation. But Jackson Smith

823
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 3: and Jiba going up against the Eagles, you just got

824
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 3: a target, receivers, pass catchers, quarterbacks going up against Philly.

825
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: At this point, they're healthy and they're still bad. And

826
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: JSN has had forty eight plus receiving yards and or

827
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 3: a touchdown in six of his last nine games. Remember

828
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: first couple of games he came to the year he

829
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: played through. I think it was a wrist injury that

830
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: he had picked up in the preseason, so took him

831
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: away a couple of games to kind of get acclimated.

832
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: But he's been reasonably productive, averaging four point one receptions

833
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 3: forty eight yards over his last nine games, a couple

834
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 3: of touchdowns, another touchdown that should have counted but didn't

835
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 3: in that Dallas Thursday night game. Tied for second on

836
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: the Seahawks with four targets inside the ten yard line,

837
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 3: and he stirred on the team in red zone targets.

838
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 3: And he plays in the slot seventy percent of the time.

839
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 3: The Eagles are allowing the most fantasy points per game

840
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: to slot wide receivers. They really haven't found an answer

841
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 3: since Maddicks went down. Bradley Roby has been playing a

842
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 3: lot in the slot. He's got a PFF grade of

843
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 3: fifty eight point nine, which is eighty six of one

844
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 3: hundred and nineteen qualified cornerbacks. And it seems like everyone

845
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 3: they try in the slot, no matter what they do,

846
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 3: they don't really have an answer.

847
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: That's why Ceedee Lamb was able to get his last week.

848
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 3: I mean, at this point, Philadelphia just really misses Jonathan Gannon,

849
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 3: and they really miss you know, everybody you know on

850
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 3: the outside being a year younger in that secondary because

851
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 3: it's just it's just been tough, so I think, you know,

852
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: the Seahawks kind of ebbs and flows. Here we finally

853
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 3: got a big Locket game. Metcalf scored another long touchdown,

854
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 3: but it was only one of his two catches and

855
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: JSN was quiet. So I think this week, I think

856
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 3: we get some JSN and some more Metcalf and Lockett

857
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 3: takes a back seat. So like JSN, this week, I

858
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 3: have him in the high forties. In the consensus is

859
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 3: forty nine, so I have him at forty three right now,

860
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: but he might have inside my top forty because again,

861
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 3: I just want to target this Eagle defense, you know,

862
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 3: any way I can at this point in the passing game.

863
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: So love JSM.

864
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, love me some Jess And he's my wide receiver

865
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 2: thirty seven. I hey them actively, I am actively trying

866
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: to be too high on him right now. And if

867
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: you're a dynasty, now's the time just go try to

868
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: get him because again he's still playing behind DK Metcalf

869
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: and Tyl Lockett, but over the next couple of seasons

870
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: he's going to become the man in this offense or

871
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: one of them. So yeah, love his upside going forward.

872
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, He's he's one of those guys.

873
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 3: Even though he plays a slot, he's capable of going downfield,

874
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 3: almost like a remember Victor Cruz back in the day,

875
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 3: where you know he would He's he's a slot receiver,

876
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 3: but he could just go deep from the slot. They're

877
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 3: starting to do that a little more with JSN now,

878
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 3: whereas average at the target is starting to creep up,

879
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 3: and he's having some more explosives. So yep, and get

880
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 3: a lot of screens too, which are easy catches. You know,

881
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 3: I think he's like seventeen screens already this year, so

882
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 3: those are just you know, I think he's seventeen of

883
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 3: se seventeen on screens. So yeah, it's just that's why

884
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 3: he has that floor.

885
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: Who are you low on? I'm low on Jacoby Myers

886
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 2: against the Chargers. I've liked him as like a potential

887
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 2: wide receiver three play the past few weeks, but he's

888
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: my wide receiver forty eight to open the week, cooled

889
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 2: off a bit last game, still had five catches, but

890
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: for only twenty five yards. I just don't like him

891
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 2: as much in this spot against the Chargers, who just

892
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: lost Justin Herbert. You know, Keenan Allen and Gerald Everett

893
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 2: are also banged up, so the Chargers could really struggle

894
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 2: to put up points here. And we've seen the Raiders

895
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: just be very run heavy whenever they can play with

896
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: a lead or you know, a close game. So Myers

897
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 2: is a player who banks on volume. So if it's

898
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: a run heavy game plan, just not going to be

899
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: as many targets to go around. So you know, he's

900
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 2: just off the wide receiver three flex radar for me. Now,

901
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: just don't like the spot for him. You know, if

902
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: the Raiders ever get into game script where you know

903
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: they're touchdown underdogs or more, that's when he'll be back

904
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 2: in play for me. But for this matchup specifically, I'm

905
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: pretty down on him.

906
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 3: I just think he's a DFS point at this point.

907
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 3: He's I don't really know how to predict predict when

908
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: Jacobe Myers will go off. I just know that she's

909
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: gonna do it like like more, much more consistently than

910
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 3: I think we thought coming into the year. But yeah,

911
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 3: like I haven't found anything week to week then, like, okay,

912
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: this is the Jacobe Myers league. It's just every once

913
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 3: in a while or every other you know, two three weeks.

914
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: He just put up a big game like oh yeah,

915
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers.

916
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, good. Is that a preview for our showdown

917
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 2: Slate coming up?

918
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: Pretty much?

919
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's a that's a good call. He is

920
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: a good play there obviously as a pretty high ceiling.

921
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: But if you're in the first round of the playoffs

922
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: and you're like, I just need like five plus points

923
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: from this guy, I don't know if Myers can be

924
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: that guy this normally he is, but right now I

925
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: think his floor is pretty low as well.

926
00:46:59,200 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.

927
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 3: I mean it's just got shut out three to nothing.

928
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 3: I haven't seen.

929
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: All those games.

930
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 3: The ninety three New York Jets, I think played like

931
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 3: two or three three nothing games.

932
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: But haven't looked like that in a while.

933
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was looking like it'd be nothing nothing yep, and.

934
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: Then no one want to say the day. So yeah, yeah,

935
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: who knows. I mean that's but that's why I was

936
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: the DFS be because everyone's probably like, yeah, this guy,

937
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: it can't do anything right now.

938
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: They just got shut out and boom d Kobe Meyers

939
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 3: like eight catches, sixty eight yards, two touchdowns or something

940
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 3: crazy like that. So but yeah, I agree, this floor

941
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 3: is way low, and that's that's what we're trying to

942
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 3: highlight here with these guys along these days. Obviously, anyone

943
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 3: could go off with fantasy they're I mean, if they're starting,

944
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 3: they're gonna you know, they could get a touchdown, they

945
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 3: could get an explosive. But we're trying to avoid starting

946
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 3: some of these guys with lower force if.

947
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: We can help it.

948
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 3: For me, DJ Moore is a guy on a law

949
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 3: and you probably have to start him at this point,

950
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 3: but he's down to my wide receiver. Twenty four against Cleveland,

951
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 3: and Cleveland had some pretty interesting home road splits on defense.

952
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: They're allowing just twelve point six points.

953
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 3: Per game at home, and you know, I know the

954
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: fields two more connection has been great, but they played

955
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: the Lions what two out of the last three weeks.

956
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: That line's defense it's not very good.

957
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 3: So I just I worry a little bit about both

958
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: of those guys in this matchup, especially DJ Moore because

959
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 3: we know justin fields, if things aren't kind of go left,

960
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 3: he could just pull the ball down and scramble and

961
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 3: Dj Moore, they will probably hand the ball to him

962
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 3: if if they're not getting them the ball through the air.

963
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 3: But you can't count on a rushing touchdown every week either,

964
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 3: so you know, still a wide receiver two, but he's

965
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 3: been like a bona fide wide receiver one these last

966
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 3: few weeks. He's had stretches like this in the past

967
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 3: with Carolina as well, where he's just week in week

968
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 3: out wide receiver one, top twelve guy. This week more

969
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 3: is a low end wide receiver two in just a

970
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 3: tough matchup for Justin Fields on the road.

971
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's my wide receiver eleven. Wo okay, But yeah,

972
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: I have like if and or their statement in my spreadsheets.

973
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: So if Justin Field is starting, just give him seven

974
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 2: catches for eighty yards and a touchdown. And if it's Beagent,

975
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: four catches for fifty yards. So maybe that's why I

976
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 2: happened so high. But in all seriousness, I think that

977
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 2: that rushing upside is there. It's kind of bizarre. They

978
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: only had he had one rush all season, but they

979
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 2: had some really creative plays for him. So if it's

980
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 2: not going through the air, maybe they do give him

981
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: design runs. But you know, either way, you're playing him

982
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: if you have him, like you said, and by then

983
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 2: the week we'll probably meet somewhere in the middle. I'm

984
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: probably too high on him. If I'm being honest, but yeah,

985
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 2: you're right, this is a tougher matchup. We should at

986
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 2: least temper our expections a little bit for him.

987
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cleveland number one passed even DVA number one against

988
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver ones as well. Who you got for the.

989
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 2: Prop So I was gonna, I was deciding between these

990
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 2: two future Hall of famers, and then I realized, you

991
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: know what, I have the same exact projection for both

992
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: of these guys. Let's just go which one we'll have

993
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 2: more yards Keenan Allen with Easton stick under center. This

994
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: is all assuming Keenan Allen plays. I hope I'm not

995
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 2: jinxing him there. Here you go versus Mike Evans against

996
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: the Packers. I have them both at the same exact projection.

997
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 2: And you mentioned it. Evans is coming down coming off

998
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: one of his worst games ever. It might be Chris

999
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 2: Godwin's wife's fault. She was harping on them but not

1000
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 2: giving her hobby some targets, and he had a squeaky

1001
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: old game. So we know, you know, Mike Evans big

1002
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 2: game is coming. Usually happens after a bad game. But

1003
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 2: just curious where you're projecting both these guys and who

1004
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: do you have more yards I'll give I'll give Evans

1005
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 2: the lean at minus a half yard here.

1006
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 3: I mean Evans almost had a crazy touchdown, So it

1007
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 3: could have been a much different stat line for Evans

1008
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 3: if he gets that he had his hand hit before

1009
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 3: his second foot late in the game.

1010
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: So let's see here.

1011
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: And Keenan dropped like a gimme twenty plus yard catch

1012
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: as well.

1013
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Keenan's get Yeah, Keenan started. I think It's like

1014
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 3: statline at one point was just super ugly though he

1015
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 3: had like like.

1016
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: Five times yard for like the first yeah, like he

1017
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 2: was having a rough game. Ended up just fying six

1018
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 2: catches for sixty eight yards. But again, he dropped one

1019
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 2: that probably would have gone twenty plus. It was bath

1020
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 2: throwed by Herbert, but Keenan probably should have caught it.

1021
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 2: But either way, both guys are coming off down games

1022
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 2: and there's reason to be, you know, down on Keenan

1023
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 2: this week. Just curious where you're projecting him with stick

1024
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: under center too.

1025
00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:01,479
Speaker 3: Okay, so I have them both through Doun the same two.

1026
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna say Keaton has a lower floor, even

1027
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 3: though we saw Evans at the lower floor. I think

1028
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 3: I think this pas, I think the you know, Bucks Packers,

1029
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 3: because the Bucks defense has been so shaggy, and both

1030
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 3: of those teams are competent on offense.

1031
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go.

1032
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna take Evans as the as a

1033
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 3: guy who finishes with more yards because well, Keenan like

1034
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 3: he doesn't really have a Godwin to deal with. I mean,

1035
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 3: you know, maybe Paul More will be back, but uh,

1036
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 3: the stick uncertainty, I think, like I want certainty with

1037
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 3: my projections, and you know, with Baker Mayfield, I have

1038
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 3: thirteen games of Evans the Baker, and like what, one

1039
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 3: or two of them have been bad, Whereas I really

1040
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 3: don't have anything to go off of for Keenan Allen's

1041
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 3: floor with Easton Stick starting except for you know what,

1042
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 3: the half of last week's game.

1043
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, I gotta go.

1044
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 3: I gotta go Evans here, and you know I love

1045
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 3: to buy these guys coming off bad games bounce back spot.

1046
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, give me, give me Mike Evans minus half yard.

1047
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: All right, let's finish it up with tight end. Who

1048
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: you got in the top five.

1049
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 2: Trey McBride, Travis kelcey. Just kidding, we probably should have

1050
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: had that discussion here, but I got Travis Kelcey, George Kittle,

1051
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 2: Trey McBride, Sam Laporta, and Evan Ingram.

1052
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 3: I got Kelsey, Kittle, Hockinson, McBride, Ingram, So yeah, I

1053
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 3: guess reporter. Yeah, Reporter number six for me just had

1054
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 3: a little It's kind of He's still been consistent, but

1055
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 3: it doesn't always have the ceiling, although I do. I

1056
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 3: lean over for that Lions Broncos game, So reporter may

1057
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 3: end up in my top five. But I don't know

1058
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 3: who to take out. I guess I guess Ingram or Hockenson.

1059
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: I can't take Hockinson out though Momans targeted him out

1060
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 3: every play. Once again, he stored some order to that

1061
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 3: Viking offense. So yeah, but who are you high on?

1062
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 2: I'm high on Isaiah Likely. He's my tight end ten

1063
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 2: And I was saying last week, you know a lot

1064
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 2: of people dropped him because the Ravens were on by

1065
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: but I mean, he's essentially playing the Mark Andrews role,

1066
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: and clearly he's not as good as Mark Andrews, but still,

1067
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: you know he's in that same role. He ran over

1068
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 2: a ninety percent routes run rate last week. Turned in

1069
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 2: a massive, you know, five catch eighty three yard, one

1070
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 2: touchdown line thanks to just the Rams defense being awful

1071
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 2: again tight coverage.

1072
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: It they blew like the same coverage twice.

1073
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, they left them open a lot. But the Jags

1074
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 2: defense has been shaky lately too. You know, they allowed

1075
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 2: the conglamour of Bengals tight ends to have a good game.

1076
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 2: And David Joku, my boy last week six catches ninety

1077
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 2: one yards and two touchdowns, and you know, likely he's

1078
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 2: not as good as Mark Andrews, but he was the

1079
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: best backup tight end in all of football. So he's

1080
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 2: still a very good tight end. We have to treat

1081
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 2: him like a top ten, you know tight end, and

1082
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 2: I think the Jaguars defense it isn't one we should

1083
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 2: be fearing right now. So I'm just really high and

1084
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 2: likely again this week.

1085
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 3: How dare you when Trey McBride is out here balling trade.

1086
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 3: McBride was unbeknownst to us because like his career started

1087
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 3: pretty slowly, he wasn't very impressive.

1088
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 2: And then.

1089
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: He just you know so, but last year last year,

1090
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: like he was absolutely the best backup.

1091
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 2: This year, I'd.

1092
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 3: Say he, like Trey McBride was probably the best backup.

1093
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,720
Speaker 1: It just kind of until he got on the field

1094
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: and then.

1095
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I wasn't considering him a backup right now,

1096
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 2: But you're absolutely right. Early, you know, earlier in the season,

1097
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 2: when Zach Ertz was a starter. Yeah, at that time,

1098
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: Trey McBride was clearly the best backup. Uh.

1099
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 3: I'm high on Dallas Goddard this week. So you're going

1100
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 3: up against Seattle. You know, Philadelphia is a little bit

1101
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 3: out of sorts, and I feel like when when teams

1102
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 3: are out of source, they like to get back to

1103
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 3: things that that have worked for them in the pass.

1104
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 3: And I feel like with the Eagles, Jalen Hurts is

1105
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 3: looking looks a little bit off. He's holding the ball

1106
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 3: longer than he did at any point last year.

1107
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: I don't think he's seeing things as well.

1108
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 2: So I think they're.

1109
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 3: Gonna want to get Goddard going here, and I think

1110
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 3: it makes some sense against this matchup because you do

1111
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 3: have cornerbacks who can kind of create wreak some havoc,

1112
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 3: and you know Woolin and Witherspoon of course, so yes,

1113
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 3: you're gonna obviously target aj Brown and Devonte Smith's a

1114
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 3: ton But I think part of the issue with the

1115
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 3: Eagles is that they haven't been spreading the ball around

1116
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 3: as much, and Goddard is one of the best number

1117
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 3: three targets in the game. He came back and ran

1118
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 3: around on ninety percent of Jalen Hurts his dropbacks. The

1119
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 3: Seahawks are twenty second in DVOA against tight ends, and

1120
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 3: Seattle has allowed the second most catches and fifth most

1121
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 3: receiving yards to the tight end position over the last

1122
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 3: five weeks. So like downas Goddard to put up one

1123
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 3: of those signature, big, big games, you know, get him

1124
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 3: back into that top five, top five. Remember you used

1125
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 3: to have him like right around kidding and those guys. Yeah,

1126
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 3: you know, not not too long ago, but he got

1127
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 3: usurped by you know, the McBride and Laportas and you

1128
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 3: know Ingram's.

1129
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: But I'm looking for a signature week from Goddard. So

1130
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: high on him this week.

1131
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a good goal. The former best backup

1132
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: tight end and all of the oh yeah everyone, well

1133
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: that's what I say. Ravens now he can't, but yeah

1134
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 2: that My conference trainer bride last year entering the draft

1135
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: was Dallas Godder and it was ironic that you had

1136
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: to back up zach Ertz and lo and hold what's

1137
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 2: zach ertzk By the way, this guy just blows up.

1138
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm hoping Ertz doesn't go to the Ravens

1139
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 2: and block the imminent Isaiah likely breakout we're seeing right now.

1140
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll just catalyze a Charlie Kohlar breakout next year.

1141
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 2: Just to go to the Rams. Just go to the Rams,

1142
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 2: get out good. Last week though, yeah, he looks better

1143
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 2: than Higbee.

1144
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: Well, I he's geting up there in age, not too

1145
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: but who are who are.

1146
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 2: You low on? Well? If if you noticed I didn't

1147
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 2: have j Hockinson in my top five, he's actually my

1148
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 2: tight end nine. Probably a little bit too low, but

1149
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 2: I'm rolling with it. If you have him, you're starting him.

1150
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Sidham, but uh, the Vikings offense just

1151
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 2: looks broken right now. They're dealing with injuries, long offensive line,

1152
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 2: bad quarterback play, you know, which ultimately led them to

1153
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 2: turn to Nick Mullins. And like you said, he was

1154
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: targeting Hawkinson at a high rate. So again, Hockinson might

1155
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 2: still be a top five tight end this week, but

1156
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: you know, we might get Juster Jefferson to return again

1157
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: this week and maybe get through a full game, and

1158
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 2: I think if and when that happens, that's really gonna

1159
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 2: hurt Hawkinson's target share because again, they still have you know,

1160
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 2: Jordan Addison kJ Osmore at times, they command their own targets.

1161
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 2: So I'm meant to move Hawkinson way up if Jefferson

1162
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: is ruled out. But if Jefferson returns and he's one

1163
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: hundred percent, I just don't see enough volume to really

1164
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 2: support all these guys. So it's just a slight hit

1165
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 2: to Hawkinson. But a lot of these tight ends and

1166
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: the top ten are really good right now, so that's

1167
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 2: why he kind of slipped the bet for me. So

1168
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: he's my tight end nine. But again I would I

1169
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 2: would still kind of treat him like a top five

1170
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 2: tight end when it comes to lane up decisions. But

1171
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 2: I think if Jefferson returns, we just needed to temper

1172
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 2: our expectations just a tad here. Yeah, I mean, he's not.

1173
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 3: Just like in that number two spot, like he was

1174
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 3: pretty much right all the year automatic, but yeah, he's

1175
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 3: still he's still pretty close. Every time you know, I

1176
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 3: think about fading him, it's just I watch him and

1177
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 3: it's just like somehow he finds a way.

1178
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's freaking good.

1179
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 3: There's always so many passing yards. If Jefferson, it, you know,

1180
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 3: is in there only so many passing yards to go around.

1181
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it is.

1182
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 3: It's good to talk about him because he's There's another

1183
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 3: one of those Saturday. But I doubt anyone's gonna have

1184
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 3: to sit him. I mean maybe if I could, I guess,

1185
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 3: you know, if you have McBride, I guess it's kind

1186
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 3: of it's right.

1187
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 2: I would, actually I would. I would start McBride over

1188
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 2: Hawkinson if justin Jefferson is active and seems like he'll

1189
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 2: get through a full game, that's probably the only plant

1190
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 2: decision I would make with him. But other than that,

1191
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 2: I have, like Jake ferguson one slot lower than e

1192
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 2: c Are not not too exciting to talk about. But yeah,

1193
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 2: Hawkinson being that low was surprising to me. I'll probably

1194
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 2: bump him up a bit, but either way, a little

1195
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 2: bit lower in him.

1196
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: In most weeks, I mean, yeah, there's actually some got

1197
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: her back, there is some there are some options.

1198
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, this week, I'm all on Hunter Henry. He's a

1199
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 3: consensus tied in fifteen and have we learn nothing. I mean,

1200
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 3: like we're gonna trust a Patriot pass catcher. First of all,

1201
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 3: the touchdown equities almost non existed. So the fact that

1202
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 3: he got two scores last week, uh, you know, you

1203
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 3: probably didn't start him.

1204
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: Maybe you played him in DFS or something.

1205
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 3: I mean, there was it wasn't much time to react

1206
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 3: with the Patriots had they had three wide receivers active,

1207
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 3: and so you figured, okay, Hunter Henry gonna get a

1208
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,919
Speaker 3: you know, a massive boost here because they weren't playing

1209
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 3: Gasiki anymore. So, but now we're going up against the

1210
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 3: Chiefs and their number six and dvoa against tight ends.

1211
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 3: They are top five and fewest schedule adjusted receiving arts

1212
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 3: per game allowed to the tight end position just under

1213
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 3: forty one according to FTN.

1214
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: So this is not a great matchup.

1215
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 3: And everyone and their mama saw Henry scored two touchdowns

1216
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 3: on prime time, including Steve Spagnolo and.

1217
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: The Chiefs defense.

1218
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 3: So who are they gonna try to stop, I mean,

1219
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 3: the Patriots. You literally have no one to worry about

1220
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 3: on the Patriots, and so you're just gonna have to

1221
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 3: scheme against the flavor of the of the week, and

1222
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 3: the flavor of the week is Hunter Henry, So he's

1223
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 3: my tight end twenty six. Part of that is just

1224
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 3: because this is one of the better pass defenses in

1225
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 3: the league. Part of it is still starting Bailey Zappy.

1226
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 3: This offense runs through the running backs. So yeah, I know,

1227
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 3: he had a big game. So that's probably why, like, okay,

1228
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 3: we need somebody to kind of, you know, on that

1229
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 3: fringe streamer discussion. But there's a lot of tight ends

1230
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 3: I would play over Hunter Henry. This week twenty five

1231
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 3: tight ends to be exact.

1232
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 2: Yep, same here, it's tight end twenty five. And that Thursday,

1233
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 2: that game was his birthday, So maybe those two touchdowns

1234
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 2: were a gift too. Okay, but yeah, don't if you're

1235
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 2: chasing touchdowns at tight end, especially a guy like that,

1236
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 2: you're gonna get yourself killed. Just play somebody that we

1237
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 2: have ranked them in the top fifteen, because I don't

1238
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 2: think that was a sustainable performance from him.

1239
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 3: Speaking of sustainable performances for the prop, let's go with

1240
01:02:54,560 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 3: an interesting rookie who seems to be doing just enough

1241
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 3: each week to produce in fantasy, and that's Tucker Craft

1242
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 3: of the Green Bay Packers. He had he ended up

1243
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 3: with sixty four yards against the Giants on Monday night,

1244
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 3: so and he had touchdown. I think it his first

1245
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 3: start a couple of weeks ago. So it's been solid

1246
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 3: for Craft. He's going to continue to start here. So

1247
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 3: receiving yardage and you know, all kinds of question marks

1248
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:31,919
Speaker 3: about this wide receiver corps for Green Bay. They're playing

1249
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 3: the Bucks. Let's go with receiving yardage thirty two and

1250
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 3: a half.

1251
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 2: Ooh over, I was thinking like thirty four and a half,

1252
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 2: just like you said, like with Christian Watson and maybe

1253
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 2: Wix missing. Who knows if Aaron Jones will play again.

1254
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to lean over here. But that's a

1255
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 2: good line. If everybody's back, that's probably exactly where I'll

1256
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 2: have it. So I'm just kind of banking on one

1257
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 2: or two of those guys being ruled out here. Yeah,

1258
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 2: he's been playing well, yeah, exactly.

1259
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 3: It's just you know, he loves blocking and stuff, so

1260
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 3: you never know, like it doesn't seem like he's purposely

1261
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 3: involved in the offense.

1262
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,439
Speaker 1: But he just seems to make a big player every week.

1263
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 3: So it's kind of, you know, up and down, like

1264
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 3: just kind of like you know how reporters kind of

1265
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 3: fizzled out a little bit. You just never know when

1266
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 3: these guys are gonna like pop or fizzle out.

1267
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's a tougher. He's one of the toughest

1268
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:24,200
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1269
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,959
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