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Speaker 2: the news. What's happening. Oh, so there's wildfires in uh

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Speaker 2: So it's part of California's system. They actually use inmates

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Speaker 3: Supposed to do, right, because it's one of those things

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Speaker 2: There, right, And it's a catch twenty two because of

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Speaker 2: So she says, to whom we may concern part too,

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Speaker 2: option to address this defamation the faming claim. The investigator

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Speaker 2: Who is she to go by her small, unimportant self

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Speaker 2: man quote unquote right, if you don't get convicted, we

431
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 2: immediately throw it into false if you if or you're

432
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: damaged because you won the case and you're ruin this

433
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 2: man's career. But there's no positive outcome for this. It's

434
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 2: just people shattering fucking people's lives and then being like what, Uh,

435
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 2: I can't believe that people don't come forward and just

436
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 2: talk to the beliefs. I don't understand. I mean, if

437
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: you did something wrong, just just tell us, if he

438
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 2: did something wrong, we'll we'll make sure something happen. No,

439
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 2: you won't. That's that's the thing. We have thousands of

440
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 2: years of humanity that proved we literally will not we

441
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 2: won't stop what we're doing and ostracize and punished and

442
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 2: jail these motherfuckers. We won't do it, especially if they're

443
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 2: rich and powerful. Just a regular ass and he can

444
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: get away with sexual assault, but rich and powerful motherfucker's

445
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 2: damn there, you might as well be trying to threat

446
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 2: a needle dog. It's impossible. Basically, who are the rich,

447
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 2: powerful motherfuckers that we look at him with, Like, Man,

448
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 2: that rape really put his ass in jail changed everything

449
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 2: I can think of Mike Tyson and Mike Tyson back

450
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 2: fine now yeah, I mean I think he did three

451
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: or four years or something. He already back in society

452
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: like a lovable, adorable Mike Tyson. He's doing movies, he's

453
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: got cartoon on Cartoon Network, Like, well, who are the

454
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 2: ones that we feel like, man that really fucked his

455
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 2: life up being accused of that rape. Like even the

456
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 2: people that went to jail, we all know it's because

457
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 2: they had a preponderance of evidence. We don't go, I

458
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 2: don't think Darren Sharper did it. We're like, oh, yeah,

459
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 2: he definitely did it, but we only think he definitely

460
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 2: did it twelve women later in four states. That's when

461
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 2: we go, oh, yeah he did it. If it would

462
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 2: have just been one woman, we'd be like the bitch

463
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: trying sit down, shopper up. You know. Kobe Bryant still

464
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 2: fine being Rothisberger, still fine, American Treasures, you know. So

465
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: I just find it funny to see people go through

466
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 2: this ship over and over again. All right, let's see

467
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 2: what else you got here? And I can see it's

468
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 2: gonna be one of those shows. Uh oh yeah, this

469
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: is This is not a new article, but I wanted

470
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: to bring bring it up in light of being ship.

471
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 2: One in three women have been sexual assault that sexual

472
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 2: harassed at work one and three Oh yeah, shp no.

473
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 3: Ship h and and and and the thing that really

474
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 3: really me being a woman my whole life, The thing

475
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 3: that really kills me is that it male privilege is real,

476
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 3: and black men have male privilege. No matter how much

477
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 3: they it meant that they're the most oppressed group ever.

478
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 3: You can be in an oppressed group and still have

479
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 3: privilege within the oppressed group. And it's amazing how me

480
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 3: and Roger have talked to you know, people we've met

481
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 3: and friends and family, just be talking to regular women

482
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 3: women talk about getting raped like a period, like it's

483
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 3: just something that naturally happened. I've talked to people and

484
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 3: they'll just be like, oh yeah, I got sexual sult,

485
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 3: oh yeah I got raped, and just move on and

486
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,239
Speaker 3: just kind of just gloss over the conversation and keep

487
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,719
Speaker 3: it moving. I've heard this from so many people in

488
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 3: real life and across the internet. Most of the women

489
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 3: that are around you, most of the women that you

490
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 3: lay eyes on every single day, has had some form

491
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 3: of sexual assault. And it's amazing. People are so stupid

492
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 3: and ignorant. They don't even know what sexual assault is.

493
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: They think a random dude jumping out the bush and

494
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 3: to put his dick in you as sexual assaul. No,

495
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: sexual assault and sexual harassment all fall up underneath the

496
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 3: same category. It could be verbal, it could be physical,

497
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: it could be mental, it could be just harassing. It

498
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 3: falls in various different forms, and because men have a tendency,

499
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 3: but it is because men don't want both.

500
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 4: They don't want to view the.

501
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 3: World as this horrible and terrible place that women claim

502
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 3: it is. They don't want to believe that their boys

503
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 3: and their pals and their friends all these terrible ass

504
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 3: human beings, or they themselves right, or they themselves are

505
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 3: these terrible ass human beings.

506
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 4: You don't want to believe this.

507
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: And the thing is, dudes have been bought up in

508
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 3: society where you have been taught, particularly straight dudes have

509
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 3: been bought up to society that you go chase women,

510
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: You chase a woman, you go get a woman, you

511
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 3: don't accept no one's an answer, you know, like that's

512
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 3: been designed in our society.

513
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 4: Drunk, get them high, you know.

514
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: Like all types of things where you like this, this

515
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 3: is questionable behavior.

516
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: I mean, think about how many discussions we had on

517
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: the show where it's centered around the idea, well, she

518
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: was too hot to consent, but why is that right?

519
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 2: And you know, or we both got drunk, so how

520
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: can we say anybody was raving anybody? You know, like

521
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 2: that kind of shit where it's like everybody got an excuse,

522
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: you know.

523
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 3: Right, And and it's one of the things I think,

524
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 3: for me personally, is very very frustrating because it's a

525
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 3: lot of deprogramming that men actually need to go through,

526
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: even grown ass men, that they.

527
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: Need to society. Society needs to go through.

528
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 4: Society needs to go through.

529
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 3: But when I say I'm talking about men, because men

530
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 3: quote unquote, the way the side society.

531
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 4: Is that it starts with them if it breaks with them,

532
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 4: it will actually trickle down. This is one thing I truly.

533
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 3: Believe will trickle down because if you don't break it

534
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 3: with men who actually have the power and the authority

535
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 3: and did run things in the.

536
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 4: Society has to start with the root of the problem

537
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 4: and rut of the problems men.

538
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I was just pointing out, it's like

539
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: it's society at this point, correct, Like, like I like,

540
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: you know, I think, one, we don't teach boys not

541
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: the right and as silly as that sounds, as simple

542
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: as that sounds, honestly, we need to be putting that

543
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 2: in kids' heads when they're very young, before you even

544
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: start thinking that they're ready to talk about sex. We

545
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: need to be talking to them about themcent period. Like

546
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: even if it's consent to hold the hands, kissing things

547
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: of this nature. Uh, you know, we lying not lying,

548
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: I but we celebrate boys pursuing girls. Right, Oh, he

549
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: hits you. Well, he just likes you. You know, Like

550
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 2: we start that very young, right, so we have to

551
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: start programming guys. But I guess what I was saying

552
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: societal I just mean, like I'm watching my Twitter feed

553
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: and my social media feed and there's so many women

554
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: that are defending and these men by attacking these women correct,

555
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: and it's I don't know, it's just scary to me

556
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: because it's like and some of them are being like

557
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: I was harassed at work, Well why did y'all go

558
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: to his hotel room and shit like that, And it's like, oh,

559
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: you're trying to turn this into women like, and we're

560
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: gonna read some articles and we're gonna get to it

561
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: because there's women that are like, well, some of these

562
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: women did sleep with them, so they're a real reason

563
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 2: he was trying to rape people. It's like, that's not

564
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: the same fucking thing, you know. That's like saying that

565
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: any man should be able to rape somebody. Well, some

566
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: women consentraally slept with me, So I just thought I

567
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: could fuck every woman walking and I just I don't

568
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: I didn't see a difference. Guys. I thought anybody that

569
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: came to my room for any reason what was supposed

570
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: to get raped. I didn't realize that only some women

571
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: could be you know, like, it's that type of shit

572
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: where we cover it from men, and that's a societal covering,

573
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But you're absolutely right, like

574
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: the men the abuse and the onus is on the

575
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: men who perpetrate this, the abusers who do it right.

576
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 3: And also it's one of those things too to where

577
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: a lot of these women that attack victims attack victims

578
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: even if they've been the victims themselves.

579
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 4: A lot of that has to.

580
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: Do with they felt like it was their fault, like

581
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: they're projecting too. So they also bought into the system

582
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 3: that was created.

583
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 4: For men by men.

584
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: No matter how much you know men out there go

585
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: with I don't do this, Okay, great, but are you

586
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 3: calling people that?

587
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 4: Are you talking to people?

588
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 3: Why is it always on the women when it comes

589
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 3: to this shit to always try to defend for you

590
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 3: to come around us when yo dick and tell her

591
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 3: to constantly shut the fuck up? Where like, are you

592
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: talking to your fellow brother man, are you being like, hey,

593
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: dog that your behavior ain't cool or I can't fuck with.

594
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 4: You no more because of this behavior?

595
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 3: Because the truth is, children are not taught about rape.

596
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: They're not taught about what's consent period, And a lot

597
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 3: of people engage in sexual activity and then don't even

598
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 3: realize that the activity that they're engaging it is rape

599
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 3: until years later. After they've learned what consent is, what

600
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 3: rape is, what sexual little sault is, you know, and

601
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: by then most people are like, that was years ago,

602
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 3: It wasn't even worth it, because the thing is for men,

603
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 3: you know, once a woman says no, that's it. But

604
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 3: like this, and even if she don't say no, you

605
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: should be intelligent enough and smart enough to read goddamn

606
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 3: body language.

607
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 4: If she's pushing you away, if she's.

608
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 3: Not wanting to engage with you, the signs are there,

609
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 3: but you don't give a fuck.

610
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 4: You know, like the people that do this active just

611
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 4: don't care.

612
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: And then for girls, it's like we're taught to kind

613
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: of protect ourselves, but how can you protect yourself from

614
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 3: somebody who a lot of times is stronger than you,

615
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 3: makes more money than you, in a lot of these situations,

616
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: a lot of times can quickly overpower you. How can

617
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: you protect yourself from that? And then if something does happen,

618
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 3: you're at fault and you're at blame. So no responsibility

619
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: whatsoever goes the male's way, and I guess, to me

620
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 3: is very frustrating when, particularly across social media, I see

621
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 3: people constantly saying, well, I'm not.

622
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 4: A rapist, I don't defend rape. Yes you do.

623
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: When you come out and you and the first thing

624
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 3: I see on your post is all these excuses for

625
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 3: these men, all these exception to the rules for these men,

626
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 3: all these everybody's about to get money. Well this one time,

627
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck about yo. One time.

628
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 4: We're talking about this time right here.

629
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 3: Most women that accuse somebody of rape, most rape victims,

630
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 3: it happened.

631
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 4: It's a rarity that it does not happen. It's a

632
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 4: rarity that it does not happen. And the thing is

633
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of times. I understand how

634
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 4: men fear that they're going to be accused of rape.

635
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 3: So this is their protection mechanism to go, well if

636
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: one of your line, all of your line.

637
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like how white people go, well, how do

638
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: you know the police pull drover for being black? Because

639
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: they don't want to believe that it's a world where

640
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: that happens, because that starts implying that there's white supremacy

641
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: and that they might be complicit and it will benefiting

642
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: from it. So we have to squash down everything. It

643
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 2: can't be about race. It's gotta be something else, gotta

644
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: be something else.

645
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, And also it's one of those things too to

646
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 3: where why is it always the women who put themselves

647
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 3: in prepared situation? Why why nobody questioned the man? Why

648
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 3: was you along with her?

649
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: Right? Well? You know, you know it's funny. I was

650
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: thinking about this this morning. How many people mock Mike

651
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: Pence because of his i'll never meet with a woman

652
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: alone thing? Remember that we've found out on the campaign Traver.

653
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: Oh god, this guy, what a fucking you won't meet

654
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: with women alone? Why? Because you can't help but rape them?

655
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: Are you fucking stupid? Now you're talking about why do

656
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: women meet with Harry Weinstein? Alon? Why they meet with

657
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: any businessman? Alaw? What are we saying? Do you sound

658
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: like more like Mike Pants than anything? This is you're

659
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: essentially saying Mike Pincer was right. Don't men and women

660
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 2: you cannot have a meeting alone? There's more shit anyway.

661
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: One of three women get sexually harassed at work. Think

662
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: about that. That is a lot of fucking women, y'all.

663
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: Think about that percentage, y'all. You have a one in

664
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,959
Speaker 2: three chance just by being a woman and having a job,

665
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: of being sexually harassed at your job. One in three

666
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: one in motherfucking three and uh yeah, well I'll wait

667
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 2: till we get to the wad stay thing, but just

668
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 2: remind me to bring up harassment versus assault, because that's

669
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 2: a big thing, and it's one of the reasons when

670
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: I hear people blaming these women, like I get pissed

671
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 2: because it's like, we don't treat harassment seriously, and now

672
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: everybody's acting like we would have in highsight, and I

673
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: fucking know we wouldn't have. If there's some story about

674
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 2: a dude groping a woman, we would not be like

675
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: or he should lose his job and go to jail.

676
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: A dude that talked bragged about grabbing women in the

677
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: pussy as president of the United States, what are you

678
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: talking about? What penalty? You didn't They didn't care when

679
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 2: that video came out in the middle of a campaign

680
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: that's about popularity and voting for somebody to run the country.

681
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: You think they gonna care when it's a mogul at

682
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: a fucking movie studio or a rapper. Rick Ross is

683
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: on a fucking radio station talking about I have to

684
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: fuck a woman if I spend money on her career

685
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 2: as a rapper because she works for me. I have

686
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: to fuck her. Is he ostracized ramp? No, he's still

687
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: around doing whatever the fuck Rick Rosse does. Why do

688
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 2: we pretend that we would come out, come down, We

689
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 2: would come down in these minute, We would stop them,

690
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: and I would give up my career if I had

691
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 2: to do it. You wouldn't do shit. Sorry anyway, Waka

692
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: Floka doesn't identify as black, according to him in this interview. Okay, yeah,

693
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: imagine him saying that ship to you in your face

694
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: in an interview and you're supposed to not laugh and

695
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: pass out walka flocka not black. I feel like he

696
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: owes for a lot of N words. I feel like

697
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: we'll be able to gave him a lot of past

698
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,479
Speaker 2: passes thinking that he was not thinking that he was black.

699
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: We let him go. You know who's this interview with

700
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: Shade in the Morning? I think Sway in the morning. Yeah, uh,

701
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 2: to discuss the slower topics revealing he does not identify

702
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 2: as African American.

703
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 4: God, what is it then? Like? How does right here?

704
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: Okay, what did you say? The clip? I was gonna

705
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: try to, but it's a thirty minute clip. I gotta

706
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: find what he said. The five minute Mark. Okay, let

707
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: get to the five minute mark and see what this coon,

708
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 2: I mean, what this brother said, I mean not brother,

709
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. We calling him now, this person, this

710
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: human being who is not African American at all, who

711
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,959
Speaker 2: was not don't call him black crack skin.

712
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 5: And then the white one that she had the clear

713
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 5: skin and the tag line was visibly beautiful skin wellneath hers.

714
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 5: And so in a sort called context of the way that.

715
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 6: That's fucked though, that's fucked and all in all, due

716
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,479
Speaker 6: respect to every race. Niggas, No, black people don't crack

717
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 6: like black don't crack like.

718
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 2: That saying niggas. No, black people don't crack. Nigga, he

719
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: said niggas. No, right, you just said niggas, right, Okay, interesting,

720
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: don't crack.

721
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 6: The natives. Don't crack the natives. You said native. And

722
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 6: he could be ninety years old and still I'm talking

723
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 6: for the natives. Like when it comes to talking about

724
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 6: African Americans, I have no education with that period. I don't.

725
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 6: I don't. I'm not even connecting to that no more,

726
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 6: because that's a system that's like connected. Say, hey, he's

727
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 6: a bad guy, you don't hangle with him. Oh, it's

728
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 6: fine for myself, not African American at all. My folks

729
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 6: is not from Africa, and a lot of people in

730
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 6: his room folks from Africa might be a couple for

731
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 6: people just don't understand. The astual girl like, what's your background?

732
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 6: She like red Footing, Blacktail, Indian black Tail.

733
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: I think I have that magazine. I guess I'm a

734
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: black Tail then, because I've had read several issues. Uh,

735
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,959
Speaker 2: let's just say my DNA does trace back to black Tail.

736
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 2: If you guys know what I mean. I think you

737
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 2: all do. I think you all did.

738
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, my mother and my father did Indians.

739
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: That's father grandmother.

740
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 6: We got Cherokee in US and European and Italian, a

741
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 6: little Dominican.

742
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 2: Hum, it's crazy. I'm like, what the fuck?

743
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 6: That's why I forgot y'all looking at me funny like

744
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 6: they I'm an African, Like you're not, though, Like you're

745
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 6: you're not. Eighty percent of slaves was already here. It

746
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 6: was natives. It's crazy, Hey, where you get that number from?

747
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: Ship?

748
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 6: I just checked the books. Which book?

749
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a whole.

750
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 2: Laptop full of this ship. Now, he had just said

751
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: he was educated. He didn't connect to black people. He

752
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 2: didn't know any of that stuff. I'm a in this

753
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: fact by everybody again time just.

754
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 6: American at all. My folks is not from Africa, and

755
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 6: a lot of people in this room folks and from

756
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 6: Africa might be a couple for people just don't understand.

757
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 6: I ask my gird like, oh, grandma, what's your background?

758
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 6: She's like red foot and blacktail Indian? What Yeah, my

759
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 6: mother and my father Indians. That's my other grandmother. We

760
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 6: got Cherokee in US and European and Italian, a little Dominican.

761
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: It's crazy. I'm like, what the fuck?

762
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 6: That's why Africa y'all look at me funny, like they

763
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 6: got an African like you're not though, Like you're young,

764
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 6: you're not. Eighty percent of slaves was already here. It

765
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 6: was natives.

766
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 2: It's crazy, Hey, where you get that number from? I

767
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 2: just checked the books.

768
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 4: What's the book?

769
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: The book? I got a whole laptop, all this shit

770
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: just for me reading. It's not a solid book, Like.

771
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 6: Hey, somewhere a thousand slaves came here and you gotta read.

772
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 6: You have to literally read. Like I'm so deep into it.

773
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,959
Speaker 6: I don't think about a slave ship. I think about

774
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 6: what was a slave ship called Jesus. What the fuck

775
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 6: was the slave ship called the Crystal lumbers On? Who

776
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 6: funded that slave ship? Who paid for that boat? What

777
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 6: was these folks race? Like?

778
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: What was the background?

779
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 5: That's interesting because.

780
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 6: Why it's like a why. It's not like I justizing,

781
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 6: it's like why, No.

782
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 5: That's interesting because when it comes you're addressing identity.

783
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: Right, you're familiar with that boat.

784
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 5: Right, I'm not with the boat exactly that you're referencing,

785
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 5: but I am.

786
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 6: Slave the first slave who paid for the slave boat.

787
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 5: That was from the Europeans.

788
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: In terms of what.

789
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 5: Was there was Germans, there was, what was the ethnicity

790
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 5: that paid for that boat, that that built that boat?

791
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 2: And a voice that boat?

792
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 6: And who are the people who built the boat or

793
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 6: who paid for the boat to be built?

794
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 2: In the books, it's just it's in the books.

795
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 6: I'm not going to say ship because we got to

796
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 6: specify which boat from which part of the boat?

797
00:40:53,760 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: That? Yeah, and who the Spanish? The Spanish, But we

798
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: don't get to get to it like that. Trust me,

799
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: it's deep. It's deep, bro.

800
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 5: But the person I have for you in regards to identity,

801
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 5: then some black someone be called African Americans.

802
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 4: Uh, some reporto car as black.

803
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 5: So if you're saying you're not African American, you're more

804
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 5: than indigenous. Your grandmother and your grandparents from Native American tribes.

805
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 5: Do you address yourself as Native American? Do you dress

806
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 5: yourself as Black American?

807
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 6: So your other I'm uneducated. I'm uneducated. So for me

808
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 6: to sit here like a college professor, professor, I'm wrong.

809
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 6: I'm confused, you know what I'm saying. But I'm damn

810
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 6: sure not black. You're not gonna call me black. My

811
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 6: grandmother is not Cariola, but I'm connected to a tribe.

812
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 6: I'm from a tribe, not a country. It's a big

813
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 6: difference with different laws, different everything, like big difference.

814
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, Okay, okay, all right, mm hmmm

815
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: mm hmmm. Damn sure're not gonna call him black, that's

816
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: for sure. That's just not what's gonna happen.

817
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 4: You're gonna see me in sense too.

818
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 2: The originally I don't know. He's Native Karen. According to him,

819
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 2: when you look at that nigga, you see it, that's

820
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: a native mm hmm, God damn it, you know, but hey,

821
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 2: that's how he feels, and uh, he don't gotta be.

822
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: I don't know that he has the best words to

823
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: be able to explain the point that he thinks he's

824
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: trying to make, But you know, take from that what

825
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: you will. I just want to know why he gets

826
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: to say nigga if he's not black, because I feel

827
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 2: like that's our thing.

828
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 4: To give that back.

829
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: Then I'm gonna need you to to chill on that

830
00:42:55,200 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 2: a little bit if this ain't your experience. But yeah,

831
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, It's it's interesting because somebody like, well,

832
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: because it's not really that important whether or not he

833
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 2: thinks he's black or not to me. But I just

834
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: thought it was funny his reasoning and that he would

835
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: say that out loud while talking about has in books

836
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: that he can't name. But he's also educated. I didn't

837
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: it was a lot going on at the time. That's

838
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Women boycott at Twitter the show solidarity

839
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: with Rose mcgallen because she got kicked off for Twitter

840
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: for put published, according to Twitter, publishing a phone number

841
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: of somebody, which is funny because everybody I know on

842
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 2: Twitter that a lot of people have been docked that's

843
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: what they call docks and putting your personal information out

844
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: of there. Uh the al right, people do it, game

845
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 2: of gay does it. These motherfuckers were not kicked off

846
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 2: Twitter and all this shit, but somehow Rose mcgawen was

847
00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: uh at any rate. Uh. They started this thing called

848
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: like hash women boycott Twitter, and all the famous white

849
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: women and Christine t. Tiagan were doing it. Uh it

850
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 2: was like, uh just celebrities. Uh, some men were doing it,

851
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: like we're going boycott Twitter on this day and and whatnot.

852
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: And uh, well I do think it's you know, good

853
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: people organizing to prove a point too, to do whatever

854
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: I feel about it. It's kind of the way I

855
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: feel about the people, like I'm not watching NFL because

856
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: a Kaepernick. It's and this is just gonna be how

857
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: it is with any of this shit. It's interesting the

858
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: timing that you pick to.

859
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 3: Do it, right, That's all I got to say about it.

860
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 3: It's just interesting. You do whatever the fuck you want

861
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 3: to do, but you can't say that something's wrong with

862
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 3: somebody for watching your timing.

863
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

864
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 3: It's just uh, I got all the times you choose,

865
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 3: now you choose now.

866
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 4: Right and get mad because people don't join you.

867
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just interesting to me because it's essentially after

868
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: white women felt agreed by Twitter that they become it

869
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: becomes a thing, a movement. When it was Leslie, it

870
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: wasn't this way like her own co stars and celebrities

871
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 2: that were in the movie with her, it took them

872
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: days before they even responded, and at best it was

873
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: like a tweet, and it was be like, I know, Leslie,

874
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 2: she's a good person. Like that's not the fucking point.

875
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 2: We're not questioning whether or not Leslie's a good person

876
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 2: or worth you know, it was it was you know,

877
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 2: it wasn't about let's boycott this platform, let's come together.

878
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: When it was Jamael Hill. You know, when the president

879
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 2: the United States was targeting a black woman wanting her job,

880
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 2: the solidarity wasn't there, man, it wasn't there. So now

881
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: you have everybody kind of galvanized and going at going

882
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 2: at this, at this person, specifically, going at Twitter, specifically

883
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: in the name of Rose McGowan and other white women

884
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 2: that you know, we're getting, you know, feeling a gree

885
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 2: because she was discriminated against. Uh and and a lot

886
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 2: of celebrities were like, I'm not going to tweet and

887
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: all this ship and that was funny because when the

888
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: boycott was happening one my Twitter was so much funner.

889
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 2: It was so much better, and I realized, I realized, now,

890
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: I think what I think happened. I follow a lot

891
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 2: of black women of color that you know, we're not

892
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: going to participate in the boycott because they immediately were like,

893
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: what the fuck was this ship? When we was like,

894
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: we have to be Canarios in the coal mine on everything,

895
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 2: and they started hashtag I think April Rain did Women

896
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: of Color Appreciation WC affirmation. That's what it was. And

897
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: it was just women promoting and signal boosting other women

898
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: of colors and men. Everybody was single boosts and other

899
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: women of colors work.

900
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 4: It was beautiful.

901
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

902
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: I made a thread about like podcasters and stuff, some

903
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: people that some women that I think people should be

904
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: listening to to have you know, good that that you know,

905
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: you go support their podcast. That was an area I

906
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: thought would be an easy one to do. But at

907
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: any rate that was happening that was very positive also,

908
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 2: and I realized this the next day. My timeline is

909
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 2: a lot less annoyed when there's no white women kind

910
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: of saying and doing annoying fun shit. So then you

911
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 2: have less people being upset. The other thing, I realized

912
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 2: it was also easier because I got retweeted it less

913
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: by white women. And it's not necessarily a fault, but

914
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: when white women retweet you, it's a gateway towards the

915
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 2: biggest because their friends with these people, they're followed by

916
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: these people. They roll in a circle where they may

917
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: have some Trump supporters that follow them for whatever reason.

918
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's because they agree with Trump supporters,

919
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: like literally, it's just they might just think you're peridy

920
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: or whatever. You're white, so I'm gonna follow you. And

921
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: they see you retweet some some pro black shit that

922
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 2: I said, and they come in mom engines and I'm

923
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 2: like and I like, I didn't have to worry about

924
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 2: that yesterday or the day of the boycott. So it

925
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: was just it was funner. It was a better place

926
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 2: without them for a second, no offense, but that's the truth.

927
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: My experience was better. Maybe when they started that black

928
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 2: Twitter that blitter, maybe I will be on there. I

929
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: don't know, but h so that was a part of it.

930
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, then when they came back the next day,

931
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: I said, they're in the boycott, said you know the

932
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: only thing that would make this more annoying for people

933
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: that are like, really, y'all just waited till now the boycott.

934
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: Y'all didn't give a fuck about none of this harassment

935
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: of black women, hacking the people's phones and docting the

936
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 2: people their careers and threatening people gamer Gate going out

937
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 2: the people. Y'all didn't care about none of that shit

938
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 2: until it was the famous woman getting her Twitter account blocked.

939
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Fucking people get blocked on

940
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 2: like a Facebook every day just for being black and

941
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: woke or whatever the fuck. So it was funny, I said.

942
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 2: The only thing that makes this worse is if Twitter

943
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: actually does address this and change the rules. Why did

944
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,479
Speaker 2: Jack the coo Twitter or whatever put out a thread

945
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 2: about how they're gonna change the rules and they gonna

946
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 2: address harassment and it's the number one priority now and.

947
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 3: White women after white don't mean nobody else. Let's just

948
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 3: keep that real. You don't give a zero fuck about

949
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 3: nobody else. And they're not the only first white women

950
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 3: to be harassed. What about the the I think they're white.

951
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 3: The ladies did right for Rick and Morty. They harassed

952
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 3: those women. What about the lady that did the video games.

953
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 3: They you know, the video game lady. She like put

954
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 3: a picture.

955
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 4: We took it.

956
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 3: She was like eating burger, drinking, drinking the slurpery or

957
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 3: some shit, and they harassed her.

958
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 4: I didn't see this solidarity for these white.

959
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 2: Women, right, So here's the thing for me. Because people

960
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: were looking like, oh, our boycott was a success. This

961
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: guy Jack addressed it right before the deadline of people

962
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: coming back, basically saying we're on this. Were a dressing.

963
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 2: This which the number one priority in twenty sixteen, it

964
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: became a priority in twenty seventeen. It's our top priority.

965
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Oh I believe him. Oh he's oh no, no, no, no, no, no,

966
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 2: no no, don't get this confused. He's right, And I

967
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: absolutely believe him. They hire more people. I say this

968
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 2: shit and I'm not and like I think it gets

969
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 2: lost in this like oultru some shit. No, no, no, no, no.

970
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 2: They absolutely are telling the truth. Yes, they want to

971
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 2: address harassment. Yes, it's the number one party. Because in

972
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, when they tried to fucking sell this motherfucker,

973
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 2: all the highest bidders dropped out because they said the

974
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 2: quality of your platform is not good. There's too much

975
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 2: harassment going on. You have too many bots, you have.

976
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 2: It's the home of the fucking alt right and the

977
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 2: gamer gate, and y'all have this freedom of speech thing

978
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: that leads to people just being harassed. Famous people that

979
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 2: we want to have on her. These media influencers have

980
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: a negative experience on your platform. It's unlike the other platforms,

981
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 2: you know, and it dropped the price of the brick.

982
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 2: We covered that on our show. I remember being like, Yo,

983
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 2: they're not gonna they're not gonna have a heart. They're

984
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,479
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to sell this easily because they're

985
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 2: not gonna get the money they want because the experience

986
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 2: isn't that good. Not to mention, it's hard to advertise

987
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: on their people hate as they hate every change that

988
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 2: you make to this thing. It's hard to slide an

989
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 2: ad in there on some tweet to get people to

990
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 2: engage with it. So you got these are the factors.

991
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 2: It's the money. So they're not being altruistic. They don't

992
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: give a fuck about well these we hate to see

993
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 2: women silence their own voices. No, what they hate is

994
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 2: to be known as the platform that is associated with

995
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: people being harassed and them taking the side of the

996
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: fucking harassers because you can't sell your shit. That's it.

997
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 2: They could sell it, they just wouldn't sell it for

998
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: the number they thought they were gonna get. So yes,

999
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 2: they have to get rid of the harassment because they've

1000
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: been measuring the data buy or the value of their

1001
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 2: platform by how many users they have. They thought that

1002
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 2: they could just walk into a meeting and be like, look,

1003
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 2: we have seven million users, you know whatever, like three

1004
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 2: billion users or whatever the fuck, and that the fucking

1005
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 2: people be like, oh my god, well Facebook has six billion.

1006
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: We'll offer you half of what we gave them. That's

1007
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 2: not how that fucking works because then they go, well,

1008
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: what are the value of your accounts? Oh, so the

1009
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: average person has ten tweets, m the average person tweets,

1010
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 2: logs into Twitter a couple times a year. Uh, the

1011
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 2: average person is harassed. Oh you have a one person

1012
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 2: can have fifty seven accounts and use those as as bots.

1013
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: You have rushing bots on your shit. You have like

1014
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 2: you people are able to fade the spread fake news

1015
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: via your shit. People can log in unregistered emails, don't

1016
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 2: have their government names on it. I understand there's some

1017
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: benefits of being anonymous, but let's keep it real. When

1018
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 2: people are getting anonymous, that's when they feel like they

1019
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 2: can act the most of a fucking food you know,

1020
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 2: I understand as the cash twenty two. Uh, And there's

1021
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: a you know, but like Facebook kind of errs on

1022
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 2: the side of show us your ID and and but

1023
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 2: and as much as I think you know Facebook, it

1024
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: still has problems. They have a lot less than my

1025
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: Twitter account, Like my Twitter responses and my Facebook response

1026
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: is totally different, right, totally different. So it's kind of

1027
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 2: intend to see people try to flip this shit because

1028
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 2: or to see Twitter try to flip it and people

1029
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 2: fall for it, like finally they're addressing our needs. Nigga.

1030
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 2: They have been thinking about this since the day they

1031
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 2: walked out that fucking meeting and didn't get that billion

1032
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 2: they thought they was getting. They're like, well, oh, well,

1033
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 2: what the fuck are we gonna do? Because every all

1034
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: the feedback was the same, look at the look at

1035
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 2: the quality of the interactions on your platform? Why the.

1036
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 3: M I said, not the amount and I would have

1037
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 3: to invest more money than I'm giving you the fucking

1038
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 3: clean it up.

1039
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 4: That's stupid.

1040
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 2: And then and not to mention once I clean it up. Now,

1041
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: what are my numbers? Because that's the real number, right Like,

1042
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: what is the real number of people with Twitter accounts

1043
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 2: that are human beings that interact with each other? What's

1044
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: the actual number? We don't know the actual number right now,

1045
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 2: you know, if I go through my mentions, like, I mean,

1046
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: I have a lot of shit filtered now, which is

1047
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 2: you know, one of those tubs they gave you. But

1048
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 2: keep in mind those filters they filter me from seeing

1049
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,479
Speaker 2: the trolls. In a lot of cases, they're not actually

1050
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 2: getting the trolls off the platform, right, So they want

1051
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 2: the numbers, but then they want to make the user

1052
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,959
Speaker 2: experience better. But they covet the numbers most of all,

1053
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: and that is always gonna be a losing equation for

1054
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 2: them when it comes to selling this shit, because they're

1055
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 2: gonna keep going, well, now we have seven billion people,

1056
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 2: it's like, but it's five billion our trolls that call

1057
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 2: people nigga all day? Why would I buy this?

1058
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 3: Like?

1059
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 2: What what can I sell to the dude that has

1060
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: a flag avatar that calls people nigger? What am I

1061
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 2: selling him? What product does he buy? You know what

1062
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 2: I mean? He like, is he real which of his

1063
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: seventeen accounts is the one that purchases things. It's a

1064
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 2: numbers thing, you know. So I absolutely believe Twitter coming

1065
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 2: out and saying, yeah, we're working on this. Yes you

1066
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: better be. You don't have a choice. But don't try

1067
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: to flip it into like some charity. No, it's a

1068
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 2: fiscal it's not a social thing. You're not socially responsible.

1069
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: You're not doing this shit because you're like such good people.

1070
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 2: You're still the same white man. They think freedom of

1071
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: speech is Richard Spencer having a fucking verified account of

1072
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 2: your platform. That's what you think is right. So so yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just thought it was very funny the way people were, oh,

1074
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 2: we won the boycott work, and I'm like, how explain how?

1075
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,959
Speaker 2: All right, let's see what else you gotta talk about?

1076
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 2: Uh M, dude, I want to But yeah, at any rate,

1077
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 2: I did appreciate the women of color of affirmation hashag.

1078
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 2: If you have time, go get into that. It's on Twitter.

1079
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: There's been articles written about it and stuff. You might

1080
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 2: get introduced to some women of color that you didn't know,

1081
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Speaker 2: correct and the work that they're doing. All right, Uh,

1082
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: think about skip fucking with Black People Today on before

1083
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 2: what we know, we ain't gonna skip it. I don't know.

1084
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it's still all bad news, Karen. Still we

1085
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 2: gotta do white people news. And it's not just Winstein,

1086
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 2: So I mean we're not you're not actually really avoiding anything,

1087
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: if you like to think.

1088
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 4: But I don't want two shots. I take one shot today, please.

1089
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: All right, all right, we'll get to them. We'll get

1090
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 2: to that tomorrow. Fucking with black Kid's gonna be a

1091
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 2: dooozy as well, by the way. All right, so let

1092
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Speaker 2: me get into white people news. Let me go find

1093
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 2: some covers. Let's see what we're gonna do here, all right,

1094
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: and let me put it on.

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00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 4: The screen, because get a hundred any white So.

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Speaker 2: That's some of them. I don't know. Maybe some of

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00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 2: them were some of them weren't. Probably all right, Uh,

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00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 2: let me know what's showing on the screen, Karen. It

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Speaker 2: is okay?

1100
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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, it's not, but yes, like yeah,

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00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 3: I'll let you know, and it's showing.

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00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: All right, cool, guys, let's getting the white people news.

1103
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 2: Hope you enjoy these up discover song after it finish

1104
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 2: his loading, which is all of course, and then there's

1105
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 2: gonna be an. AD's gonna be ad.

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00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 4: Oh wouldn't have it any other way.

1107
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 2: Well, just wait the five seconds and skip this ship

1108
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 2: and then get to the song. All right cool.

1109
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 3: Um hm.

1110
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 2: Take you tell him take your sweet ass time. But yeah,

1111
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 2: all right, so white people use who go the street

1112
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 2: college come turch okay, and now it's gonna freeze because

1113
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 2: oh they gotta they gotta fire, going to come down

1114
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 2: the crazy mud and fucker Dean Ice the game called

1115
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 2: hold Okay. That was a hard r so very hard.

1116
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 2: That was the hardest of ours, Like.

1117
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,439
Speaker 4: We gonna do this by the bait being Camp five.

1118
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 4: We we we wrote this, Moores.

1119
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 2: I feel like he said niggers with attitude, and yeah, yeah,

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00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: I don't think that's how you pronounced n W niggas.

1121
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 2: I think it's niggas.

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00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 4: Okay, No, it's all like, it don't matter what we

1123
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 4: put in. It's a all onto them.

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00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 2: Niggas with attitude. Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 4: Cold.

1126
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Speaker 7: I got it so off I squeezed the trigger. Fidies,

1127
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 7: hold off, you're gonna have to come and get off

1128
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 7: your because that's South coling out over the pump.

1129
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Speaker 8: Motherfucker's done showing out niggers starts to mombo.

1130
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 9: They want a rum bull.

1131
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 8: I picked him up and cook him in a pot

1132
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 8: like gumbo. I'm going off phone to motherfucker like that

1133
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 8: with a gat that porney at your ass, So bring.

1134
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 7: It up smooth, you know there ain't no tail and

1135
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 7: winning them down four attacking.

1136
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 8: Here's a further repee be dancing with the crime record

1137
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 8: like Charles Manson.

1138
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 2: A K forty seven is a two. Don't make my

1139
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 2: head of mother fucking food.

1140
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Speaker 4: You and meet can.

1141
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 2: Gold toe to toe.

1142
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 3: You know me.

1143
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 2: I'm knocking niggers.

1144
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 7: Off the flocks daily, your weekly, monthly, and yearly.

1145
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 8: Tell you dumb motherfucker's sea clearly out on down.

1146
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 2: With the capric cooking sea.

1147
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 7: Beet see, boy, you can't fuck it to his neighbor,

1148
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 7: you fan die dis crazy ass puffin As I leave,

1149
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 7: believe I'm stomping, but winn to come back, boys street,

1150
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Speaker 7: I come.

1151
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 2: To listen, guys, I'm gonna need y'all to find his

1152
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: Oh my, I'm gonna need you all to find his

1153
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 2: place of employment. We're gonna have to get get him

1154
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 2: up out of here. Okay, Oh my, gonna he works somewhere. Okay, guys,

1155
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 2: we don't know where, but you know this motherfucker works somewhere.

1156
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 2: What what can we do to make sure that this

1157
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 2: motherfucker don't never, don't never log back into his job,

1158
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 2: don't never swipe his card and walk past. What can

1159
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 2: we do, guys, oh my reaching out to the blackout autist.

1160
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 2: We have to find this man and make sure that

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01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 2: he's never employed again. This is uh, that was too

1162
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:08,919
Speaker 2: much else, too much competent in their lives from man

1163
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 2: called niggers with the attitude, not nigga niggers with a

1164
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 2: niggers knocking straight off the block.

1165
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 4: That's not in the same song good Crave all right.

1166
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 2: Trump News pro Trump states would be affected the most

1167
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 2: by his health care decision.

1168
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Speaker 4: No ship and they don't care nil both boys ass.

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01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 2: Again mm hm. He made a decision in provision a

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01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,439
Speaker 2: provision of the Affordable Care Act that was benefiting roughly

1171
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 2: six million Americans, help a feelers campaign promise, but also

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Speaker 2: risk commens some of the very people who helped with

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01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 2: his presidency. Yeah, uh, they don't care. They they racist, y'all,

1174
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 2: they do. He promised that he was gonna do this.

1175
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 2: This just him delivered on the promise of taking that

1176
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 2: black Man's name off of their health care Yep.

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Speaker 4: That's why when I see them stories up, be like, okaying,

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01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 4: and this is what you want to do. The end results.

1179
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 4: So I've been tricked. No, okay, you've been tricked in right.

1180
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, they they don't have a problem. Listen, listen.

1181
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 2: You could take that goddamn Obamacare. I don't want that.

1182
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 2: But as long as you leave my Affordable Care Act alone,

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01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 2: I'm good. Well guess what, God's surprised.

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Speaker 4: It's the same.

1185
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 2: And uh, you know, I wouldn't. I would rejoice in

1186
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 2: this if it wasn't for the fact that it's still

1187
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 2: a lot of people in those in those states that

1188
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 2: didn't vote for Trump. I gotta deal with this shit.

1189
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 2: Like it's funny because people we call states red and

1190
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 2: and all this shit, but like they some of the

1191
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 2: shit they barely be winning or like let's say you

1192
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 2: win sixty that's not really a lot of people like that.

1193
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 2: That means there's forty percent of that people in that

1194
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 2: state that don't support this shit, and they gotta deal

1195
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 2: with this. They gotta deal with this in this democracy.

1196
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 3: You know, I know, sh they go red and blue,

1197
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 3: but it's always people quote unquote were off the side.

1198
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 4: It's just against whatever it is to get.

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Speaker 2: Voted for, uh Trump the nd key. Uh well, we

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01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 2: just said that. Also, he was talking about obamacab price

1201
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 2: is about to go up, and see this is why that,

1202
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 2: this is why it's failing. It's like you, you made

1203
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 2: it go up. Who's that stupid? Did not know you

1204
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 2: cut the subsidies and then turned around and said why

1205
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 2: is the price so high? Fucking ed it? Uh Trump

1206
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 2: said Tillerson is wasting his time negotiating with North Korea

1207
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 2: because he was negotiating with them on the behalf of

1208
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 2: Rex Tillerson was most negotiating with them on the behalf

1209
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 2: of the United States, trying to avoid the nuclear war.

1210
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 2: But Trump said he's wasting his time. I told Rex Tillerson,

1211
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 2: I wonderful Secretary of State that he's wasting his time

1212
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 2: trying to negotiate with Little rocket Man said on Twitter,

1213
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 2: save your energy recks, will do what has to be done.

1214
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 4: I'm risking other people lives, other people lives.

1215
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 2: Right not to mention he Uh Rex Tolson allegedly called

1216
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 2: him a fucking more arm behind the scenes, which I

1217
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 2: think does a lot of people. It says a lot

1218
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 2: about this White House that so many people took positions

1219
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 2: of power because they want to be close to power,

1220
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 2: But they have no respect for Donald Trump. And that's

1221
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 2: why the turnover so high too, because he doesn't have

1222
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 2: a kind of ego that can handle somebody working there

1223
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 2: and not respecting him. He doesn't have that kind of ego,

1224
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 2: Like he doesn't know. Like it's funny how opposite he

1225
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 2: is of Obama. Like Obama really was handling critique in

1226
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 2: a way that I think was superhuman to a certain

1227
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 2: point where I'm like, who's that fucking secure? Like you

1228
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 2: never lash out and say this is unfair, Like you

1229
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 2: know that's what I'm saying, But I mean in the media, Twitter,

1230
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 2: press conferences, you just never saw him break and be like,

1231
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 2: hey man, now look, you know that's fucked up. I

1232
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 2: think he had like maybe one or two times in

1233
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 2: his entire eight years that I remember him kind of

1234
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 2: addressing somebody like, now you know what you printed was

1235
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 2: fucked up. And even in those cases, the media will

1236
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 2: react like he basically called them a bit, Like he

1237
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 2: came out and said that we need to report on

1238
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 2: both on the whole story and not just wow, is

1239
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 2: that presidential? Shit he did, you know, because the bar

1240
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 2: was just different for him. But with Trump, every day

1241
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 2: he does some unpresidential quote unquote that people just we

1242
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 2: just become used to it. In ten months, Russell Simmons

1243
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 2: paying a letter to Donald Trump saying, wake the fuck up.

1244
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah that's your friend. I don't really give a fuck

1245
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 2: you're talking about. You heard him say racist sit around you,

1246
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 2: But you ain't say nothing until he was a nominee. Okay,

1247
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 2: I mean you was still wanting to be in his

1248
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 2: circle before, you know, not then then the racism got

1249
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 2: a little too big.

1250
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 4: Uh Uh.

1251
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 2: The Secret Service depletes funds to pay agents because Trump's

1252
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 2: frequent travel and large family.

1253
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, when he leaves this country gonna be bankrupt.

1254
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 3: When he leaves, all the taxpayer's money is being fucking

1255
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 3: wasted and blown.

1256
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 2: He's not He's never at the White House ever, like,

1257
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 2: so that's the you know, that's the thing. He takes

1258
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 2: more vacation time than any president and golfs and goes

1259
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 2: to a White House south his golf resort and shit like,

1260
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 2: and these.

1261
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Speaker 4: People have a budget, they go, this is how much

1262
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 4: we alloted every year.

1263
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 2: And there's so many people in his fucking illegitimate ass family.

1264
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,919
Speaker 2: You know, it's a messy ass three fourth marriages ass

1265
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 2: family that it's impossible to protect them. I think one

1266
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 2: of his sons fucking asked not to be protected anymore.

1267
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 2: They just disbanded a federal advisory committee on climate change

1268
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 2: because who cares about that? Right, it's not real? I

1269
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 2: guess it's not, apparently, and y'all don't care. I mean, listen,

1270
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton, y'all just thought she was Jesus. And that's

1271
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 2: really the problem with everything. Honestly, if that hadn't happen somehow,

1272
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. But in order to prove how real

1273
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 2: I was, I had to make sure Trump got in office.

1274
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 2: And now I'm the realest person on the left, y'all.

1275
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

1276
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 2: Trump's lawyer for his email echoing secessionist rhetoric.

1277
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 3: Uh.

1278
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 2: They it's not like y'all care what about her emails though?

1279
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 2: I mean, isn't that what's really important? Guys? I was

1280
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 2: getting more depressing white people news. It's right, it's not

1281
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 2: all fun. Woody Allen is sad for Harvey Weinstein over

1282
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 2: sexual assault allegations. Insert spider Man pointing spider Man at

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Speaker 2: this point in the podcast, Guys, mm hm, poor Harvey Weinstein. Guys,

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Speaker 2: it's sad. What's happening with them? You know when the

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Speaker 2: rapes come home to roost. Just you look at a

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01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 2: guy like that, you just go, man, poor guy. But

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Speaker 2: people keep working with the Allen keep being in his movies,

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Speaker 2: keep mm hmmm mm hmmm. Uh yeah, he said sad

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Speaker 2: for Harvey Weinstein is the producer faces numerous allegations. You say,

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Speaker 2: her rumors, but not these hard stories. At the number

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Speaker 2: of women came forward to q's Wynstein was sawt. Weinstein

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Speaker 2: was voted off the board behind the Oscars on Saturday

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Speaker 2: as a result of the allegations, even though Bill Ksey

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Speaker 2: and Ron Polanski are still on the board.

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Speaker 6: Come on now. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Wystein has been credited with robbing Allen's career after Allen

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Speaker 2: was accused of abusing Dylan Farroll his daughter with actress

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Speaker 2: me with actress me and parall Yeah, uh makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Burs or feathers stick together, you know, calling in favors.

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Speaker 2: You know what you're gonna say. I admonished this man,

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Speaker 2: you know, like, like the silence around this goes so

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Speaker 2: deep because part of it is he was a make

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Speaker 2: or break person for a lot of people's careers.

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Speaker 4: Right, and some people have just ignore that fact.

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Speaker 2: One of the reasons he's being ousted so much faster

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Speaker 2: than Bill Cosey to a certain extent, is because he

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Speaker 2: was so powerful that these women went on to be somebody.

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Speaker 2: In some cases and Bill Cosey's cases, most of these

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Speaker 2: women never went on the b shit because he either

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Speaker 2: made sure they weren't gonna be shit, or he was

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Speaker 2: getting women that was so early in the game and

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Speaker 2: they didn't have you know, like he picked quote unquote

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Speaker 2: his right targets the least powerful women that he could

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Speaker 2: do that too, that wouldn't have a voice, that would

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Speaker 2: take a payout, rather than to do that that would

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Speaker 2: be embarrassed into feeling like, well, if I bring this up,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna fucked up my life, fuck up my career,

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Speaker 2: So let me just shut the fuck up. At any rate,

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Speaker 2: though Harvey Weinstein is woody allens, what are you all

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Speaker 2: said for him?

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Speaker 6: Guys?

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Speaker 2: You guys know how that goes. British actor Lisette Anthony

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Speaker 2: allegens that Harvey Weinstein Raper. She's claimed that Harvey Winstein Raper.

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Speaker 2: She reported the alleged saul to the police last week.

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Speaker 2: She starts in the British sub opera Holly Oaks. She

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Speaker 2: said it took place in the home in London in

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Speaker 2: the nineteen eighties. She described the attack as pathetic and revolted,

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Speaker 2: and said it left her feeling disgusting, disgusted and embarrassed.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I absolutely believe her. A former Mirramax employe

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Speaker 2: as claim Weinstein raped her in the basement of his

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Speaker 2: London office twenty five years ago. In an interview with

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Speaker 2: The Daily Mail on Sunday, the unnamed British woman explained

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Speaker 2: why she didn't report us aut I just felt mortified

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Speaker 2: in the shame and no one would believe me. He

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Speaker 2: was incredibly well connected, powerful and important, and I was

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Speaker 2: just a nobody, you know, Like I said, I see

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01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 2: people talking about brave. You gotta be brave, you gotta

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Speaker 2: come out and say something. And it's like, we don't

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Speaker 2: treat those people with any level of credibility when they

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Speaker 2: do that. Though we don't have a history of being

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Speaker 2: like this woman accused this guy of rape, so therefore

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Speaker 2: we believe her and let's you know, get him out

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Speaker 2: of here. Well let's when well she goes to court

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Speaker 2: and he's found guilty because they always get found guilty

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Speaker 2: when they do it. Then we'll do something. Now we

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Speaker 2: have people that are convicted of rape that work. Roman

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Speaker 2: Polanski continues to work, right, you know what I mean? Like,

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01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? Like it's it's it's incredibly

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01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 2: frustrating to listen to people make up this reality where

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Speaker 2: all this justice is happening while I'm looking at the

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Speaker 2: world going but it's not.

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Speaker 3: It's not.

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01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 2: But you do the mental gymnastics in order to blame

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Speaker 2: women on this. And and this is the part I

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Speaker 2: wanted to bring up. Now, these are two sexual assaults

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Speaker 2: that are rape. Right, I missed. I said I was

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Speaker 2: gonna come back to this. The difference between sexual harassment,

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Speaker 2: sexual assault and rape is huge here. We absolutely would

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Speaker 2: not treat any of these women that just allege some

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Speaker 2: creepy behavior on his part before there was some preponderance

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Speaker 2: of evidence that he did more to other women. We

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Speaker 2: would not treat them seriously. That is that is a

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01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 2: fucking fact. And I need people to get that through

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Speaker 2: their fucking skulls. Because if we just if if we

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Speaker 2: had heard Harvey Weinstein broke the woman's breast, we are

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Speaker 2: not treating that seriously. You know, Bill Clinton was accused

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01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 2: of that kind of shit and became president like sixty

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01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 2: minutes was talking about it, got reelected. Even we don't

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Speaker 2: care this idea that we do care, like we it

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Speaker 2: happens too commonly to women for us to believe we care.

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Speaker 2: If a third of women are having these issues at

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Speaker 2: their jobs, a third of women at their jobs, who's

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Speaker 2: doing it?

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Speaker 4: Not other women?

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Speaker 2: Odds are why are they still employed? What's happening to

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Speaker 2: these people? We don't walk around going a third of

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Speaker 2: men are fired from their job for sexual harassing people

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Speaker 2: because it's not happening. No one cares. It's just funny

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Speaker 2: because you you know, I'm reading people's tweets on listening

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01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 2: people's catch and I'm just like, what life are you

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Speaker 2: living in?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:05,719
Speaker 2: Why are you lying?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: Why are you being willfully obtuse on this shit? Do

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01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 2: you hate women that fucking much?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 2: Cause you really gotta hate somebody to do this. And

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Speaker 2: it's funny because it sounds so white, you know, because

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Speaker 2: I only really listen to black people thrown a lot

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Speaker 2: of shit, So you sound so white to me cause

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Speaker 2: you sound like them when they talk about us. When

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Speaker 2: we're like, yo, this cop shot this dude. He didn't

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Speaker 2: have a gun. Well, are you sure that's what happened. Well,

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Speaker 2: I mean he probably, I mean he probably was threatening

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Speaker 2: them or something. Well, that's video of it, you know,

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Speaker 2: he playing it the gun. I just don't think they

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01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,600
Speaker 2: would do that. Well, I mean, but if they did it,

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Speaker 2: then just go to the police or the police are

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Speaker 2: the people that killed them. Well, you just reported and

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01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 2: something would happened. I'm telling you, as a black person,

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01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 2: nothing ever happens when you report it. I'm telling you

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01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 2: they always get off.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I mean it's really your other people

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01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 2: fought for not reporting. I'm saying, I, as a black person,

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Speaker 2: was pulled over by a police officer. I knew it

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Speaker 2: was for being black. They said my headlight was out.

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01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 2: It wasn't out. I got out my car and looked

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01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 2: at it. When I got home, both my headlights were working.

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01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 2: I don't know why they profiled me other than all

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01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 2: black riding down the street. Well, did you report it

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01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 2: to the police and tell them that you think you

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01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 2: got pulled over for being black?

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01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 3: No?

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01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 2: I went back to school and went to class the

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Speaker 2: next day because I knew nothing was gonna happen. Well,

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01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 2: it's really like your fault for when they pulled over

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01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 2: that other black person that shot them later on, that's

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01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 2: really kind of on you because you didn't say anything

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01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 2: when they pulled you over for no reason. That's really

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01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 2: what we were saying to women. And what keep going

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01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 2: back to is everybody but the motherfucker who did the crime.

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01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 2: It's everybody in that case. It can't be the cops fault.

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01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 2: It's I mean, all these black people there are what

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01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 2: about black on black crime? What about like it's everything

1427
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 2: but the perpetrator is disgusting. People that protect the perpetrator.

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01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,520
Speaker 2: I don't mean victims who are silenced by the perpetrator.

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01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:00,640
Speaker 2: People who actively protect this motherfucker. I'm talking contacts in

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Speaker 2: the media that that that that torpedo article so that

1431
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 2: you won't write about it, you won't hear about it.

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01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the fact that his company, let me

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01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 2: read this article next, his company actually had built into

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01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 2: his contract that he could have h he could be

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01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 2: accused of sexual assault, but as long as a payment

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01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 2: was made, he wouldn't be fired. Right, let me look

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01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 2: this one up. But yeah, there's so many coming out,

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01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 2: but yeah, he he basically as long as he wasn't

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01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 2: as he could keep it hushed up because that's what

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01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 2: those settlements mean, right, just keep it on the low.

1441
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 2: And he was fine, right. Uh So, yeah, we talked

1442
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 2: about the academy dropped them even though they still got

1443
01:16:54,920 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 2: other motherfuckers in there. That's just as bad. Let's see. Yeah,

1444
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 2: his contract allowed for sexual harassment. It was built into

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01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 2: his contract. That's a stemic. That's a stomic. That means

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01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 2: any woman coming forward was gonna end up paying a

1447
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 2: price because they knew he was doing it and they

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01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 2: were complicit in it. So the whole fucking company has

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01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 2: to go. You know, like there's three people left on

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01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 2: the board because everybody resigned because they were complicit too.

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01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they was like, well, let me jump ship

1452
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 3: before this shit starts floating my way.

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01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 2: There's no way you worked on that board and then

1454
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 2: fucking know it. Man, it's impossible. You had it in

1455
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 2: his fucking contract. It's in the books somewhere, there's a

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01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 2: line item like pad to pay this actors one hundred

1457
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. You know, like they just knew it was

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01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 2: a fact of life. At some point. It either you

1459
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 2: were sound about it and you knew or somehow you

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01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 2: didn't know and you got to speak out about it now,

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01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? But yeah, you're jumping ship

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01:17:55,760 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 2: because it's now it's time, you know. But yeah, yeah,

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01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 2: he uh. According to the contract, if you treated someone

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01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 2: in properly, properly in violation of the company's code of

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01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 2: conduct he was, he must reimburse TWC for settlements or judgments. Additionally,

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Speaker 2: u Weinstein will pay the company liquid dated damages of

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Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for each such incidents,

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01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 2: five hundred thousand dollars for a second such incident, seven

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars for a third such incident,

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Speaker 2: and a million dollars for each additional incidence.

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Speaker 4: Good God, Keep in mind, he.

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01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 2: Got this money. This ain't that. Ain't shit for him.

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01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 2: He got the money. This is just supposed to be

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01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 2: at the turn. Why would you have to put that

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01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 2: in somebody's contract, y'all. You think everybody got a contract

1476
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 2: like that?

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01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 4: Oh?

1478
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 2: You think they go, hey, man, listen, we gotta discourage

1479
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 2: this guy from just sexually assaulting these actresses. How do

1480
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 2: we do it? I guess final not listening them go

1481
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 2: to jail. This means y'all knew it was happening, y'all

1482
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:57,679
Speaker 2: didn't go, and now we're gonna go to the police.

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01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 2: What do y'all think they told these actresses when they

1484
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,679
Speaker 2: because because it's not like nobody was telling people. People

1485
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 2: are coming out left and right like yo, so and

1486
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 2: so told me. You think nobody at the board ever

1487
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 2: got told by actors like, hey, well this ship was

1488
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 2: really inappropriate. What do you think they were telling them?

1489
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up? Why you want to ruin this

1490
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 2: man's career with how much money do you want? You know,

1491
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 2: where you won't work again because you know, Harvey's so powerful,

1492
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 2: we ain't gonna be able to put you on no

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01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 2: more projects if you go. That's what was happening.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of times these are the ones that

1495
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 3: want the books, guarantee you a lot won't pay off books.

1496
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 2: Right, and then look at this though, how many Because

1497
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 2: then people go with what why didn't some people just

1498
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 2: sacrifice their career as the whistleblowing this man? You don't

1499
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 2: know that they didn't, you know, right, you wouldn't have

1500
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 2: heard about them. That's how fucking powerful to do was

1501
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 2: it was shut this down? No, you know that's we

1502
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 2: The one woman that we know now that got it

1503
01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:00,759
Speaker 2: on tape is because the police conducted a fucking operation.

1504
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 2: They don't do that for sexual arrassment normally. Hey, this dude,

1505
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 2: grab my titties. You're willing to wear wire that doesn't

1506
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 2: normally happen. Guys, the fuck are people talking about? Rose

1507
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 2: mcgallan claimed that he raped her and called out Amazon.

1508
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 2: Amazon had Jeff bezosh because apparently Jeff Bezos.

1509
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 3: Uh.

1510
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 2: She said, I told the head of your studio that

1511
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 2: Harvey Weinstein raped me over and over. I said it.

1512
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 2: He said it didn't have It hadn't been proven. I said,

1513
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 2: I was to prove at Jeff Bezos had I already

1514
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 2: sold the script. I wrote to your studio it was

1515
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 2: in development when I heard Wystein bell Out was in

1516
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 2: the work.

1517
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 3: Uh.

1518
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 2: Number three, I fortunately begged the studio had to do

1519
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 2: the right thing. It was. I was ignored. The deal

1520
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 2: was done. Amazon won a dirty oscar Jeff Bezos. I

1521
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 2: called my attorney and said I want to get my

1522
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,640
Speaker 2: script back. But before I could. Number two Amazon Studios

1523
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 2: called to say my show was dead. Jeff Bezos, I'm

1524
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 2: calling on you to stop funding rapists alleged pedos and

1525
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 2: sexual arrasss. I love at Amazon, but as a rite

1526
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 2: in Hollywood. Five Jeff Bezo be the change you want

1527
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 2: see in the world. Staying with the truth hashtag Rose

1528
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 2: Army hashtag Amazon.

1529
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, other companies knew about this shit, you know, because

1530
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 4: somebody like this doing this.

1531
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 2: Everybody knows just about Also, you know, it's funny. Care

1532
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 2: people keep going, well, why didn't they say nothing? There

1533
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 2: are literally there's a woman who wrote the fucking book

1534
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 2: about it.

1535
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 4: Yes it is.

1536
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 2: It's a chapter of her book about him. There's Rose

1537
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 2: and guy on Twitter last year talking about a studio.

1538
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 4: Head did this to me?

1539
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. She didn't name the studio head, but

1540
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,839
Speaker 2: then we skip over the fact that this motherfuck is litgious.

1541
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 2: So if she would have said his name, she was

1542
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 2: gonna get sued. Oh yeah, people like that sue you,

1543
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 2: you know, like like it's funny.

1544
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 4: It's like.

1545
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 2: People be like, why don't you just say something? Because

1546
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:48,879
Speaker 2: the kind of powerful person that is a sexual abuser,

1547
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,719
Speaker 2: they don't make it easy for people to say something.

1548
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 2: They ain't gonna why they make it harder for you

1549
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 2: to say something, and and the society is not at

1550
01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 2: the point where we have the backs of people who

1551
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 2: say stuff we don't then turn around and be like, well,

1552
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 2: you know what, fuck him, We're gonna make sure you

1553
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 2: do have a career. No we go and you remind

1554
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 2: me of rape when I look at you, and I

1555
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 2: don't want to. I mean, I'm glad you said something,

1556
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,719
Speaker 2: but I don't want to cheer my project right because.

1557
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 3: You make me feel bad. And a lot of that

1558
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 3: is like, you know, whit supremacy. You make me feel

1559
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:20,520
Speaker 3: bad instead of me addressing to white supremacy.

1560
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 2: You got to go right, you know, in a country

1561
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 2: that had fucking slavery, people talking about how we would

1562
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 2: have the backs of these women if they would just

1563
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 2: be brave, shut the fuck up. You wouldn't do a

1564
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 2: goddamn thing. You wan't do a goddamn thing. The country

1565
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 2: is going to hell in a hand basket now with

1566
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 2: some of these laws and regulations, and I don't see

1567
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 2: people stepping up the way that they said they were

1568
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 2: going to. Well, you know, Trump is elected. The good

1569
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 2: thing is people will stand up to him. Will they?

1570
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 2: I'm looking around, will they they gonna be in the

1571
01:22:53,000 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 2: streets on certain days, you know occasionally, but will they

1572
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 2: be in the voting booths. What you running for office?

1573
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 2: Oh no, oh, that's that sound like too much work, gotcha?

1574
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, let me see what else you got. H

1575
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:15,560
Speaker 2: I think we we went down the list of the

1576
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 2: women that accused them, but now it's at the seventeen

1577
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 2: actually judge, actually judge on the list. It's so many people.

1578
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 2: Oh no, I actually do want to go through this.

1579
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 2: I was thinking about skipping through it, but I actually

1580
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 2: want to go through this cause. Okay. So the next

1581
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 2: thing that's happening is you're getting a lot of people saying, well,

1582
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 2: why would you go to its hotel room? And there's

1583
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 2: some answers to that, and they're typically in the articles.

1584
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 2: So what I'm noticing is that either a people aren't

1585
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 2: reading the fucking article right, which is totally possible, or

1586
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:57,799
Speaker 2: they're just so trained to hate women they just immediately

1587
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 2: jumped to excuses. And regardless it wasn't the article, if

1588
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 2: you read the fucking article, the reason they're in this

1589
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 2: hotel room or being attacked by him in situations, they're

1590
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 2: all in the fucking articles. These women aren't fucking idiots,

1591
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 2: you know. And let's be honest, if they went there

1592
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 2: to fuck this dude, we wouldn't be hearing about the story.

1593
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 2: They just fuck them, right, what are you talking about? Well, listen,

1594
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 2: don't you know what it is? No, they obviously fucking don't.

1595
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 2: He's doing it under false pretenses. If it was so

1596
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 2: overtly obvious that women in this industry are fucking rich

1597
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 2: men so they can get on, that's the whole point.

1598
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 2: If that's what it was, it was open just like

1599
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,640
Speaker 2: that's what Hey, you see a starlet. That means she

1600
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 2: fucking somebody that's a famous, rich white man that's a

1601
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 2: power broker in this in this industry. If that was

1602
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 2: the case, you wouldn't have this scandal mm hmmm, because

1603
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:54,560
Speaker 2: you just go fuck them. Think about it.

1604
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 4: Stupid.

1605
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 2: It's so it's it's just so funny. It's like, well,

1606
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,600
Speaker 2: obviously this out of ustry work. Well it does it

1607
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 2: because it seems like it's a lot a lot of

1608
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 2: issues with this guy. If it's if that's just how

1609
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 2: things are, if that's how everybody does not to mention,

1610
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 2: like the people I know that are actresses that are

1611
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 2: in this industry, that are in entertainment that talked about

1612
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,679
Speaker 2: these meetings and they're like they're like, yo, a meeting

1613
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 2: in a hotel room is not what the fuck y'all

1614
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 2: think like you might think of it as I walk

1615
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 2: into a holiday inn and it's two beds and I

1616
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 2: sit down on the bed and talk to no I'm walking.

1617
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 2: It's a rich motherfucker probably in a suite in a

1618
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:35,560
Speaker 2: hotel that he conducts business out of.

1619
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 4: Right, has the big ass table in the middle of

1620
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 4: a room.

1621
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 2: Right I walk in there, there's like most there's multi

1622
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 2: media equipment in there. There's sometimes there's staff in there.

1623
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 3: Right, Like, this is not you're never normally Normally, if

1624
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 3: it's done right, you're never in there with that person.

1625
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 3: Alan you have somebody else, let me tell you. And

1626
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 3: they've been doing this for fucking twelve fifteen hours. Helldo

1627
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 3: you like you're the one that they're gonna do the

1628
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,560
Speaker 3: next ten minutes undoing? You're gonna get a knock and

1629
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 3: it's gonna be somebody else behind you auditioning for the

1630
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 3: same position.

1631
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 2: Right, people have been doing auditions and reads and shipping

1632
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 2: this dudes and movies. It's not uncommon. So that's one

1633
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 2: part of it is people trying to conceive of it

1634
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 2: what they look like regular ass job that they don't

1635
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:16,839
Speaker 2: have to do this at It's not like your manager

1636
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 2: at Holiday, I mean your manager at Whole Food said

1637
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 2: come to my hotel for audition. You'd be like, why

1638
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 2: the fuck would I need to do that? To work

1639
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 2: a Whole Food? Like this is a common thing that

1640
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 2: they do. Your casting agent might just hit you up like, hey, God,

1641
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 2: I mean your your agent, Hey, go to this address.

1642
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:37,480
Speaker 2: It's yeah, this is a very this dude he owns Miramax.

1643
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 2: He wants you to audition for this partner's role. It's

1644
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 2: gonna be a big movie. You get up there and

1645
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:43,680
Speaker 2: it's like, why this nig ain't got no clothes on?

1646
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 4: And why it's just him? And where's the staff and

1647
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 4: why's the crew and where's the camera?

1648
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 3: You know, because this industry and the music in just

1649
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:53,599
Speaker 3: very non traditional ways of doing things. It's not your

1650
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 3: normal corporate America. Because yeah, in corporate America, you better

1651
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 3: not call me talking about we better. We better than

1652
01:26:58,680 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 3: being in a fucking office space.

1653
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 2: Oh my bad, I didn't mean to disabled chat in

1654
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 2: the chat room mine, I just enabled it. Tom My

1655
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 2: fault out, Oh, no problem.

1656
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, they're very non traditional and like you say,

1657
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 3: listening and viewing with other people who by saying, who'll

1658
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:13,599
Speaker 3: be working in the industry for years and decades, they

1659
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 3: say it's not common to do this, so like this

1660
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 3: is so okay.

1661
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 4: One, it is common. I'm sorry.

1662
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. One, all these attacks didn't happen in the hotel room.

1663
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 4: No it didn't.

1664
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 2: So I need y'all to, like I said, read the

1665
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 2: fucking articles. I hate that I have to read this

1666
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 2: shit to be honest, because it's disgusting. But I'd rather

1667
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 2: know than to do these half ass, fucking shows and

1668
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 2: half hot takes that people have out here because they're

1669
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 2: fucking educated, and they just leave first with I hate women,

1670
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 2: and I'll make up everything from that point.

1671
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 3: On.

1672
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 2: Number one, some of these attacks happened in his fucking

1673
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 2: office shit like that, the basement of studios, so it

1674
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 2: wasn't just his Why did you go to meet with

1675
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,760
Speaker 2: him at a hotel room? That's number one? Number two,

1676
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 2: there were a lot of honey pots, which is, uh,

1677
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 2: they trick you. Hey, there's a party in Harvey Weinstein's

1678
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 2: suite there it's gonna be and it's not a party.

1679
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 2: So so either he lied to somebody's agent or broker

1680
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:10,759
Speaker 2: or they're or they're in on it. You know, Cosby

1681
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 2: was funneled through modeling agencies. There are people who are

1682
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:19,760
Speaker 2: complicit here, you know it with Cosby, Uh, everybody's fave.

1683
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 2: Hugh Hefner was providing him qua loose like this. This

1684
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 2: is a funneling. It's a machine, you know what I

1685
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,719
Speaker 2: mean to make this happen. Like people aren't. People aren't

1686
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 2: walking in with the assumption of I gotta fuck this nigga,

1687
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 2: Like I said, you wouldn't have you wouldn't have these stories.

1688
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 2: One woman, he went to her apartment. She had to

1689
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 2: lie and say her boyfriend was on the way. She

1690
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 2: didn't have a boyfriend. She's like, yeah, my new boyfriend's

1691
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 2: on his way here. She had called a friend earlier

1692
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:47,600
Speaker 2: to say can you come over and pretend to be

1693
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 2: my boyfriend. It's three in the fucking morning and Harvey

1694
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 2: Winston wants to come over to my fucking apartment to

1695
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 2: discuss marketing in quotes, you know, Like that's that's the

1696
01:28:56,920 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 2: shit that's going on. And people aren't just being up too,

1697
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 2: like no, they just it's just they must regret fucking

1698
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 2: him or something. He's lunching on women. What are you

1699
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 2: talking about?

1700
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 4: All right?

1701
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 2: Like no, all right, let me go to the next session.

1702
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:16,640
Speaker 2: Let me go to the next session, cause we have

1703
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 2: more to say about this. Be right back, everybody in

1704
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 2: the chat room. But yeah, you know, I'm seeing people

1705
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 2: say stuff and I'm like, did you just read the headline?

1706
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 3: You know?

1707
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 2: And because what they do is and this is this

1708
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 2: is very common, they disguise their skepticism as just questions,

1709
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 2: you know, like they don't come out and say I

1710
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 2: don't believe these women or or these women are lying,

1711
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:49,600
Speaker 2: like they won't come out and just say that. What

1712
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 2: they'll do instead is they'll disguise it his questions like well,

1713
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 2: why do you even go to someone's hotel room? I

1714
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 2: don't know, read the article, because the article tells you

1715
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 2: why you will go to someone's hotel roo. Literally, the

1716
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 2: women are telling you on that account like this, Yo,

1717
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 2: they told me this party was happening in his room

1718
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 2: and that it was gonna be a lot of industry

1719
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:09,599
Speaker 2: folks there. I get there and it's him, me and him,

1720
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 2: and he ain't got no fucking clothes on in the road,

1721
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 2: talking about give me a massage, and if you don't

1722
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 2: do this, we won't be friends. And I can ruin

1723
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 2: your career. And if you tell anybody that I attempted

1724
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 2: this shit, I will also ruin your career. And some

1725
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 2: of these women had their careers horribly offset where you

1726
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 2: had that. What happened to her Apparently she wouldn't fuck

1727
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 2: kyriy Wanstean, and then when she told people about it,

1728
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 2: he ruined her career like he told him he was

1729
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 2: he was gonna like he told her he was gonna do.

1730
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 4: Oh, she didn't end up not getting the park.

1731
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:39,599
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I'm going

1732
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 2: through these because I feel like it's important.

1733
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:42,720
Speaker 4: I don't not this is not me.

1734
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 2: I'm not reveling in details. I hate that this makes

1735
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 2: people feel uncomfortable, but honestly, somebody need to fucking be

1736
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 2: talking about this shit on an individual basis, because if

1737
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 2: you don't see the patterns, you start to fall for

1738
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:58,759
Speaker 2: these dumb ass questions. I saw Sonny Anderson, who apparently

1739
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 2: is a I don't know, some some woman that was

1740
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 2: on on these cooking shows. She was on Twitter talking

1741
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 2: about I got sexually harassed and I reported it, and

1742
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:11,640
Speaker 2: any woman that reported it after me wasn't brave. I

1743
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 2: don't respect them like I only respect myself for being

1744
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 2: the first. It's easy for everybody else. Then she then

1745
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:21,880
Speaker 2: she put, why is everybody out here go into these

1746
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 2: hotel rooms and shit like that? And it's like, one,

1747
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 2: you're a person that was abused, and now you're blaming

1748
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 2: other people that were abused, which is a common cycle.

1749
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 2: A lot of times I feel bad for those people,

1750
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 2: but ultimately you are helping the cycle by giving cover

1751
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 2: to these abusers. Two, you start blaming other women, you know,

1752
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 2: And there were several women that pulled the blossom wrote this,

1753
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:46,800
Speaker 2: the woman that played Blossom. She wrote this long ass

1754
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 2: thing in the New York Times and essentially said, don't

1755
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:55,600
Speaker 2: dress provocatively and don't don't get surgery and makeup and

1756
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 2: shit blaming these women, Like the reason it didn't happen

1757
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 2: to me is because I'm not a perfect ten. So

1758
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 2: I didn't get raped because I'm such a better feminist.

1759
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:08,040
Speaker 2: And it's like, nigga, you're what are you talking about?

1760
01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 2: You just as much the fucking problem, you know. Then

1761
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:13,560
Speaker 2: she tried to add, my words are taken out of context. No,

1762
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 2: that's what you said.

1763
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 4: People cut me with you said something. People take exactly

1764
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 4: what you said. Don't twist it. That don't change it.

1765
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 2: It wasn't a tweet, it was a New York Times off.

1766
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 2: Everybody read it.

1767
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,680
Speaker 3: They replayed if it's a video, and all of a

1768
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:30,720
Speaker 3: sudden you were taking out of no you said what

1769
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 3: you said, like, come on now, let's not back down.

1770
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 3: And Son Anderson, I'm kind of hurt by that because

1771
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 3: she's one of my favorite and I trying to fund it,

1772
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 3: one of my favorite chefs on the network cause she

1773
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 3: wanted to not turn find it one of a few

1774
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 3: black women on the main food network show.

1775
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 2: Right, well, she fucking it up right? Maybe not no

1776
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:57,639
Speaker 2: more right, it's it's sad man. Yeah, she has said,

1777
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 2: let me see in the workplace, I need people to

1778
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 2: realize this stuff effects other You need you want to

1779
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 2: be weak, do it in your personal time. Not even then?

1780
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 4: Why is that considered weak?

1781
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 6: Right?

1782
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 3: Right?

1783
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 2: Like it's on the oners of the victims that that

1784
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:25,600
Speaker 2: does somehow make the abuse go away. She's you know,

1785
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 2: she's blamed. She's blaming the women that took payments too.

1786
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 4: Right, because and that kills me too. Why do people

1787
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:36,919
Speaker 4: that like a financial exchange absolve you from guilt? Companies

1788
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 4: do this Bush, that's.

1789
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 2: Why they pay you out by the way, because they

1790
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 2: know it's they are admitting guilt. It's obvious. We all

1791
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 2: they go the settlement doesn't admit guilt. Everyone in the

1792
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 2: world goes, oh, so you did it, and then we

1793
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 2: go week, bitch, she took the money. That's why they

1794
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 2: do it, so we can all turn on the woman like, see,

1795
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:58,080
Speaker 2: she just a gold digger. She got the money she

1796
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 2: wanted and motherfuckers, and it works. I can't It's just

1797
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:04,599
Speaker 2: I can't believe it works when it's so fucking obviously

1798
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 2: employed to do these things. It's sad to see people

1799
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 2: do it.

1800
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:11,599
Speaker 3: And it's very frustrating to me because, like you say,

1801
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 3: people can see it when black people die and people

1802
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:16,639
Speaker 3: take like these you know, these settlements is kind of scheduling.

1803
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 2: We don't never go to me or Rice's family. I mean,

1804
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 2: really be strong. Why you're gonna be weak and take

1805
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:25,479
Speaker 2: the money, go to court foul criminal charges? Well, we're

1806
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 2: never gonna get justice in the criminal system. Well yeah,

1807
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 2: now you're being weak. And when they kill another black person,

1808
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 2: that's your fault.

1809
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 3: Right And it's also one of those things too, to

1810
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:36,800
Speaker 3: where they would rather have their found them member back.

1811
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:38,599
Speaker 3: Don't you think these women would rather have not been

1812
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:40,639
Speaker 3: sexually assaulted first of the money.

1813
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:45,720
Speaker 2: Right, all right? So yes, her tweets were when I

1814
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 2: reported my first radio boss with sexual harassment, I felt brave.

1815
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 2: The four coworkers that came out after me were not

1816
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 2: brave at all. In fact, I blame them and still

1817
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:56,640
Speaker 2: do not do, for not being brave and reporting him

1818
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:58,639
Speaker 2: before he had a chance to make one more victim.

1819
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 2: So all the these women came out of the wieldwork,

1820
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 2: Ask yourself where they complicit in that silence? Complicit when

1821
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 2: taking payoffs. People out here just using the word brave

1822
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:10,679
Speaker 2: like they know what it is. I refuse to call third, four, fifth,

1823
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 2: or tenth person to come out and say me too brave.

1824
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 2: We can call them lake though, or I can. They can.

1825
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:19,719
Speaker 2: They know they are crazy but can't help it. Trolls

1826
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 2: gonna do troll stuff. I guess she talked to someone

1827
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:23,680
Speaker 2: else and the thing is.

1828
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:26,599
Speaker 4: This, and this is what kills me about people.

1829
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 3: You chose to come out, okay, and other people said,

1830
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 3: well you took the first step.

1831
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:36,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take a step two.

1832
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 3: A lot of times that's to let people know that

1833
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 3: it's actually bigger than what they think it is. Guess what,

1834
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 3: they ain't have to say shit. They could have let

1835
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 3: you went out there and been a fucking model on

1836
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 3: your own.

1837
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 2: Let's just keep that real, right, and then you would

1838
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 2: have lost your job and nothing would happen to your

1839
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 2: boss because it'll be you against them, and everybody would

1840
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 2: be like, well, she was dumb enough to report it,

1841
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 2: let's fire her. It's only because it got to five

1842
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 2: or six women that you're asked that your boss gets

1843
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 2: fired that you don't right.

1844
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:04,599
Speaker 3: And the thing is because the way, like you said,

1845
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 3: the way the system is designed, it doesn't benefit you

1846
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 3: to talk. It doesn't benefit you to open up your mouth.

1847
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 3: It doesn't benefit you to say shit that that there.

1848
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 3: It does not benefit the victim to come forward.

1849
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 4: Period. And yes, it is brave, and it's very insulting,

1850
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 4: and it's very uh uh uh uh uh. I gonna

1851
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 4: say this.

1852
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:27,759
Speaker 3: It highly upsets me that you would have the nerves

1853
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 3: to say something like this, and you're blaming other people

1854
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:33,479
Speaker 3: that also are victimized and saying that it's their fault.

1855
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 2: Also, I shouldn't be required to be brave right when

1856
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 2: I take a job.

1857
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 4: I'd rather not be sexu littlet The goddamn right right, Like.

1858
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 2: I, okay, I'm an administrative assistant. I did the bravery

1859
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 2: on the job description. Is that a thing I have

1860
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 2: to be now? And now I'm thrust into the line

1861
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 2: that I gotta be a hero. It's like that thing

1862
01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:56,680
Speaker 2: I said when that trans person was that transgirl was

1863
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 2: beat at the high school last week, and I was like,

1864
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 2: I feel bad that you have to become a fucking

1865
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 2: activist to go to school, Like that's a burden that

1866
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 2: is placed on somebody that was victimized, you know, like

1867
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 2: it's unfair. I don't know what can be done about,

1868
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 2: but it's unfair because no one else is gonna step

1869
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 2: up and advocate. So it becomes about, well, now that

1870
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 2: you're being beat up, you want to go speak to

1871
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 2: the whole school, Like I guess.

1872
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 6: I have to.

1873
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 4: Everybody not built for that, and everybody don't want that, right.

1874
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 2: I'd be just as understanding that if she would have

1875
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:31,680
Speaker 2: been like I actually just don't even want to go

1876
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:34,639
Speaker 2: to the school anymore, Like I just want to I'll

1877
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 2: go somewhere else.

1878
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 6: Then.

1879
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 4: I like being a victim signed automatically signed me up

1880
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 4: on the list.

1881
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 2: For this, right, But yeah, she yeah, it's just funny

1882
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 2: because then it becomes about blaming these women, and then

1883
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 2: it becomes about her personal issues and shit. But yeah,

1884
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:55,799
Speaker 2: this is part of the process. Meanwhile, read the articles.

1885
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 2: You'll see why women weren't coming forward. Some of them

1886
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:02,880
Speaker 2: actually did come forward. They got shot down. The threats

1887
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 2: he promised were delivered. And now and then what does

1888
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:08,720
Speaker 2: that say to the next person, Well, fuck, I better

1889
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 2: not say nothing.

1890
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:12,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, people have seen examples go down like everybody else

1891
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 3: in their job. You've seen and it don't even has

1892
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:17,680
Speaker 3: to be sexual assault. You've seen when somebody may be

1893
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,880
Speaker 3: complained about something racially. You seen what somebody may have

1894
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 3: complained about how they've been treated a job. Everybody has

1895
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 3: seen this, particularly corporate America. And guess what happened. Hi, Come,

1896
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 3: next thing you know, they're cleaning their desk. Next thing

1897
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 3: you know, they're getting harassed. Next thing you know, their

1898
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:34,599
Speaker 3: boss scrutinized them extra hard. Next thing you know, they

1899
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 3: lost their job. It's an example that everybody else don't

1900
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:40,240
Speaker 3: fuck with us, and everybody else keeps quiet.

1901
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 2: It's another thing to this too. And I was thinking

1902
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:50,600
Speaker 2: about this afterwards. Right, he has perfect cover because he

1903
01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 2: is known as an asshole, which is a gender thing. Right,

1904
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 2: If a woman acts like this way at a job,

1905
01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 2: we treated as she's a bit she needs to be fired.

1906
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 2: She's hard, impossible to work with men, he's passionate. We

1907
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:07,200
Speaker 2: make TV shows about men like this, right. We make

1908
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 2: TV shows about Tony Soprano, We make TV shows about

1909
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 2: Don Draper, We make TV shows about men that behave

1910
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 2: as tyrants, and we go, well, that's just what you

1911
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 2: need done. You know, you watch Entiurage and half the

1912
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 2: fucking characters on there are just full rich white men

1913
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:24,360
Speaker 2: acting a fucking food about who can get a little

1914
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 2: bit more money than the next person. And what's still

1915
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:30,360
Speaker 2: and like we're still going, well, that's funny, that's normal.

1916
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 2: I like that guy. You know, yeah, he's a jit,

1917
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:35,680
Speaker 2: he's a dick, but I'm rooting for him. Right. We

1918
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:38,880
Speaker 2: don't do that with women. Women are unlikable bitches when

1919
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 2: they do that shit. So it's making me think how

1920
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 2: we've gendered this shit to be like, well, that's just

1921
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 2: Harvey's way he's making money. So wait, you can't make

1922
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:54,720
Speaker 2: money as Harvey Weinstein without threatening and intimidating your employees.

1923
01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:58,760
Speaker 2: You can't do that, Like you can't like the movie

1924
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 2: won't get produced if you don't threaten somebody, if you

1925
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 2: don't physically put your hands on people, and shit, because

1926
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:07,840
Speaker 2: it's more than just his sexual proclivities that people are

1927
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 2: talking about, like he's also just a dick to work with.

1928
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you that shit gives cover because when

1929
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:16,960
Speaker 2: I say, like, oh, I heard it's hard to work

1930
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 2: with Harvey Weinstein, Am I talking about the sexual assault?

1931
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 2: I'm much to talking about him being an asshole? When

1932
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 2: I say there's a lot of rumors out there about Harvey,

1933
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 2: Am I talking about sexual assault? Or am I talking

1934
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 2: about he's just a dick? It gives cover. And it's

1935
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:33,800
Speaker 2: like if we didn't let the if the world didn't

1936
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:37,080
Speaker 2: let men act this way while calling them likable, it

1937
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 2: wouldn't It wouldn't have. He would have been exposed so

1938
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:41,720
Speaker 2: much earlier. You're like, well, why are you being such

1939
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:45,680
Speaker 2: so aggressive about U's not hiring this actress? Because we

1940
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:47,680
Speaker 2: just look at it like what he's passionate about his work.

1941
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 2: It gives cover. Some people in the know might be like, oh,

1942
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:51,839
Speaker 2: it's because he tried to fuck her and she wouldn't

1943
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:53,760
Speaker 2: do it. But there's gonna be a ton of people

1944
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:55,880
Speaker 2: that don't know what the fuck happened. They're just like, Oh,

1945
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:57,599
Speaker 2: he doesn't like Ashley jud he don't want to enter

1946
01:40:57,680 --> 01:40:59,560
Speaker 2: our projects. I guess he didn't like the way she

1947
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 2: asks us. You know, Harvey can't question him. He'll get

1948
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 2: mad at you, throw you out the wrong and right.

1949
01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:09,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, and now getting into some of those incidents too. Uh,

1950
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:12,040
Speaker 2: Jezebel had a list of a running list of the

1951
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:14,679
Speaker 2: women that were accusing him, Like I said, actually, Judd,

1952
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,360
Speaker 2: he issued an invitation at the invitation for her to

1953
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:22,280
Speaker 2: come to I think it was breakfast, Yeah, breakfast meaning

1954
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 2: could he give her a massage? When she refused, he

1955
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:27,240
Speaker 2: suggest as the shoulder of She rejected that too, she recalled,

1956
01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 2: he steered. He steered her toward the closet, asked her

1957
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 2: to help pick out his clothing for the day, and

1958
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 2: then toward the bathroom and asked what she takes when

1959
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 2: she watched him take a shower, as she remembered, that

1960
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 2: is what she remembering him saying.

1961
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 3: Uh.

1962
01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 2: Lauren O'Connor, former employee, found an internal memo about his behavior.

1963
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 2: Why didn't women step forward? When missus O'Connor had been

1964
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:55,160
Speaker 2: writing about uh, writing written, writing only about a two

1965
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 2: year period. Her memo echo other women's complaints. Mister Winstein

1966
01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 2: required her to have casting discussions with aspiring actresses after

1967
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 2: they had private appointments in his hotel room. She said,

1968
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 2: her description matching those of other former employees. She suspected

1969
01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:11,200
Speaker 2: that she and other female Weinstein employees, she wrote, were

1970
01:42:11,240 --> 01:42:14,760
Speaker 2: being used to facilitate liaisons with vulnerable women who hope

1971
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 2: he will get he will get them work so one

1972
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 2: because like I said, some of these people probably did

1973
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 2: fuck him. And I mean that in not the I'm

1974
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:27,200
Speaker 2: blaming you way, in the rich powerful man says this

1975
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:30,559
Speaker 2: is what's gonna happen, uh, or I'm gonna ruin your career.

1976
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 2: Not everybody so strong and brave that they stand up

1977
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 2: for us. Some people are just gonna be like, this

1978
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 2: is this is easier than fucking being a waitress at

1979
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 2: whatever the fuck right, And if that's what they chose

1980
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:47,799
Speaker 2: to do with their lives and their careers and whatever.

1981
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:51,599
Speaker 2: If that's all it was, there wouldn't even be a story.

1982
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:55,800
Speaker 2: If this was all about just women consentraally fucking this

1983
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:58,479
Speaker 2: dude and him be and then walking out and being

1984
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:01,679
Speaker 2: like I got a job. Literally, there would be no story.

1985
01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 2: That's how you noticed something's up with this dude, because

1986
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:06,559
Speaker 2: it's not about that, because there were women that probably

1987
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 2: did fuck him. That's not what he was into. That's

1988
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 2: not enough for him anyway. Uh but but yeah, she

1989
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:16,720
Speaker 2: wrote a fucking internal like, hey, guys, this is a

1990
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 2: thing that he's doing and what happened guys, nothing you know,

1991
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 2: and not to mention in any cases. I guarant I

1992
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 2: would bet money, bet money. He was like, oh, so

1993
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:29,000
Speaker 2: and So's gonna be at the meeting with us, and

1994
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 2: these women are like, oh, I'm going to the hotel then,

1995
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:34,760
Speaker 2: because the cast in age is gonna be there. No, no, no,

1996
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:37,320
Speaker 2: After you fuck me, then maybe you can talk to

1997
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:39,800
Speaker 2: her if you fuck me. If not, I'm ruin your career.

1998
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:44,120
Speaker 2: Emily Nesta, another FOREM employee, said she dealt with sexual

1999
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 2: advances repeatedly. He has to hold her hands, she said, no,

2000
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:50,439
Speaker 2: and it's a kind of exchange. Oh, the girls always

2001
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:52,800
Speaker 2: say no, you know, no, no, and then they have

2002
01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 2: a beer two and then they thrown themselves at me

2003
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:58,559
Speaker 2: in a tone that Nessa described is weirdly proud while

2004
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 2: seeing at it. He never had to do anything like

2005
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:03,679
Speaker 2: Bill Cosby. She assumed that meant he had never drugged

2006
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:05,640
Speaker 2: a woman. It's just a bizarre thing to be so

2007
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:07,680
Speaker 2: proud of us. She said that you never had to

2008
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 2: resort to doing that. It's just so far removed from

2009
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 2: reality and normal rules of consent. Can we throw in there,

2010
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 2: if this woman would have came forward, how many years ago,

2011
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 2: after obviously gonna get fired for saying this shit, how

2012
01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 2: many y'all would have said he just asked to hold

2013
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 2: your hand? He said he wasn't, cosby what the fuck

2014
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:28,120
Speaker 2: are you complaining about, bitch, This motherfucker just trying to

2015
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:31,400
Speaker 2: work while you're gonna ruin his career over something this small.

2016
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 2: Maybe he just smoke inappropriately. Damn, I mean, really, something

2017
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 2: like that. You're gonna lose your job. You think they're

2018
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 2: supposed to fire him. It's his company. Why are we

2019
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:43,240
Speaker 2: acting like that? This world is just I believe you, sister,

2020
01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 2: and we're gonna get rid of this powerful, rich white

2021
01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:47,559
Speaker 2: man because he shouldn't be trying to hold your hand.

2022
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:51,400
Speaker 2: Fuck out here. Via The New York Times. She also

2023
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 2: said she had just worked one day as a temporary

2024
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:57,400
Speaker 2: employee so to the same hotel, and he made another

2025
01:44:57,479 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 2: offer if she accepted sexual advances he boost her career,

2026
01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:03,600
Speaker 2: according to accounts she provided to colleagues who sent them

2027
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 2: to Winstein company executives. The following year, once again at

2028
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:09,800
Speaker 2: the Peninsula, a female assistant said mister Wainstein badgered her

2029
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 2: and giving him a massage while he was naked, leaving

2030
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:14,919
Speaker 2: her crying and very distraught. Wrote a colleague, Lauren O'Conor

2031
01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 2: in the Seria memo or a certain sexual harassment and

2032
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:19,960
Speaker 2: other misconduct by the boss. There's a toxic environment for

2033
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 2: women at this company, miss O'Connor said in a letter

2034
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:25,040
Speaker 2: addressed to several executives at the company run by mister Wainstein.

2035
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:29,200
Speaker 2: Ms Madden later told Karen Katz, this is Lauren Madden.

2036
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:34,439
Speaker 2: She had to lock herself in the bathroom. Yeah, she

2037
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:36,839
Speaker 2: locked herself in the bathroom of his hotel room, sobbing.

2038
01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 2: We were so young at the time, she says. She's

2039
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 2: now a documentary filmmaker. We did not understand how wrong

2040
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:45,599
Speaker 2: it was or how Lord should deal with it. That's

2041
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:49,599
Speaker 2: another thing. When you attack somebody's fucking like twenty eighteen,

2042
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:51,880
Speaker 2: everybody don't know what the fuck to do.

2043
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 4: People don't know the laws.

2044
01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 2: There's a reason you go at somebody this way. One.

2045
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 2: It's not even just that they don't know the law

2046
01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:04,719
Speaker 2: right you don't like. I'll give y'all example. What would

2047
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:08,439
Speaker 2: y'all do if y'all went to work tomorrow? Oh no, no, no,

2048
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:10,519
Speaker 2: just go back to when you're eighteen twenty or whatever.

2049
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 6: I know.

2050
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:14,439
Speaker 2: I give a personal example. What the fun anna talking about?

2051
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:17,519
Speaker 2: I was, I was fifteen or sixteen. I was working

2052
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 2: at Wendy's one summer. It was right up the street

2053
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 2: from my from my neighborhood, and I didn't have a

2054
01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 2: license yet, I didn't have a car. Basically, my parents

2055
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 2: would drop me off of the Wendy's. They drive us

2056
01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:32,640
Speaker 2: up to like Huntersville to train at another Wendy's in

2057
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:35,200
Speaker 2: a van. They drive us up there together, all the kids,

2058
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:38,040
Speaker 2: and then they drive and it was to prepare for

2059
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:40,559
Speaker 2: window one up the street opened up. And then that's

2060
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:45,560
Speaker 2: when I would start working there. And so there's managers.

2061
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:47,360
Speaker 2: They were the ones who were driv us and we

2062
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:53,120
Speaker 2: had imagine, ain't Scotty And Scotty was probably probably thirty six,

2063
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 2: thirty five something like that. I don't know, but probably

2064
01:46:56,080 --> 01:46:58,720
Speaker 2: in his thirties. And you know, I'm fifteen. Most of

2065
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:01,040
Speaker 2: the people coming up there at fifteen, sixteen, eighteen, like

2066
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 2: very young people, and so they would doubt or drive

2067
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:08,200
Speaker 2: us home. They drop us off like it was almost

2068
01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 2: a bus. And one time I was getting dropped off

2069
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:13,080
Speaker 2: and I was like, I want to say I was

2070
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:16,320
Speaker 2: the last person to get dropped off this night, and

2071
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:19,840
Speaker 2: you know, it's dark and shit, and I was in

2072
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 2: the back seat, you know earlier, you know, like, and

2073
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:25,360
Speaker 2: he's like, why don't you come to the front. I

2074
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:27,840
Speaker 2: was like, nah, I'm good back here man. It's like

2075
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 2: it's up here, go to the right or whatever. And

2076
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:32,519
Speaker 2: so we get ready to get close to my house

2077
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:36,320
Speaker 2: and he's like, well you want me to uh uh.

2078
01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:39,560
Speaker 2: He's like, you know, you're a big boy, you have

2079
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:43,600
Speaker 2: a you know, you like some stupid shit, like you

2080
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:45,760
Speaker 2: play sports or some shit. I was like, I played

2081
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:48,120
Speaker 2: basketball a little bit, but you know whatever. And then

2082
01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:50,400
Speaker 2: he put his hand on my knee. I'm in a

2083
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 2: back seat. Now think about how he had a reach

2084
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:54,640
Speaker 2: across from the driver's seat to touch my leg. And

2085
01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:59,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, man, what are you doing right? I'm fifteen, right,

2086
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:01,920
Speaker 2: I'm fifteen. I'm like, what are you doing?

2087
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:02,160
Speaker 6: Man?

2088
01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:05,600
Speaker 2: And He's like, uh no, I'm just saying, you know.

2089
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:08,160
Speaker 2: I was like, don't touch my leg, man, that's weird.

2090
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:12,960
Speaker 2: And my house is like down the street to the

2091
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:14,439
Speaker 2: left or whatever, and I said, hey, man, you can

2092
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 2: stop right here and let me out. I walked the

2093
01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:17,760
Speaker 2: rest of away. It's like, nah, you don't got to

2094
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 2: be like that. I said, Nah, it has to be

2095
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:21,840
Speaker 2: like that. Let me out. He's like, nah, man, it's cool.

2096
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:23,760
Speaker 2: I'm a drop. I said, just let me out of

2097
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 2: the car right now. So he let me out the

2098
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 2: car and I walked home right I never had to

2099
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:32,880
Speaker 2: ride with him again. That was our last dad training.

2100
01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:35,040
Speaker 2: My parents drove me back and forth to work after that.

2101
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:39,320
Speaker 2: I didn't quit the job. He never like he would

2102
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:42,400
Speaker 2: flirt and say shit weird. To keep in mind, I'm

2103
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:45,240
Speaker 2: fifteen sixteen, he's thirty something. He say stuff to all

2104
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:49,280
Speaker 2: the younger male employees and shit and to what you

2105
01:48:49,439 --> 01:48:51,200
Speaker 2: just you know, I'll just be like, brush it off.

2106
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:53,880
Speaker 2: You're Wendy's. It's not really a real job. Like we

2107
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 2: don't have an HR department. I know, like, I had

2108
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 2: no idea what I should have done, who I would

2109
01:48:58,560 --> 01:48:59,000
Speaker 2: have applied.

2110
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:01,360
Speaker 4: You probably do, but age you're not air like that.

2111
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 2: He's also my manager. So what I'm gonna tell my

2112
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:08,800
Speaker 2: manager that you're harassing me, you know, and it's a

2113
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:12,680
Speaker 2: five dollars job, I'm definitely gonna lose his job, right, so,

2114
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:15,240
Speaker 2: I you know, me personally, I just grained the berry.

2115
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:18,439
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, gelongs, he don't touch me. I'm good,

2116
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:22,639
Speaker 2: just don't fucking touch me or whatever. And he ended

2117
01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:24,800
Speaker 2: up fucking some young dude that worked there that was

2118
01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:28,760
Speaker 2: like assistant manager but he was over eighteen or whatever.

2119
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:30,960
Speaker 2: But he ended up I know, they had like some

2120
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:33,720
Speaker 2: kind of weird relationship. And also this dude was kind

2121
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:38,040
Speaker 2: of like, uh, like he might have been by or something,

2122
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 2: or if he wasn't by, he didn't have like the

2123
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:46,479
Speaker 2: very flamboy you know, the right He didn't have a

2124
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:49,479
Speaker 2: mannerism that made people think immediately like that's a gay dude.

2125
01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:52,160
Speaker 2: Like so, and I know he flirted with some of

2126
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:54,599
Speaker 2: the women employees and shit too. Once again a lot

2127
01:49:54,680 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 2: of underage people there. So then uh, this whole summer

2128
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:03,760
Speaker 2: goes by, he doesn't do anything more inappropriate than that.

2129
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:07,320
Speaker 2: Then that touching my leg that day, and we uh,

2130
01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:09,320
Speaker 2: you know, you go back to school, you know, you

2131
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:11,400
Speaker 2: get you quit your summer job. Everybody does that. So

2132
01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:12,840
Speaker 2: I had to go back and get my last check,

2133
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:15,120
Speaker 2: to which they're like, give us your uniform back, as

2134
01:50:15,120 --> 01:50:16,680
Speaker 2: if a nigga want to keep up windy. You know what,

2135
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:21,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna use it for anyway, a costume party. So

2136
01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:24,320
Speaker 2: I bring my uniform back and I'm going to get

2137
01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:28,360
Speaker 2: my check and they're like, oh, yeah, Scotty's not here

2138
01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 2: anymore or whatever. I was like, oh, for real. They

2139
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 2: got like, well he quit or something. It was like, nah,

2140
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:34,880
Speaker 2: he got fired, and I was like, oh, what happened.

2141
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 2: I was like, well, the thing he was accused of

2142
01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 2: basically trying to fuck one of the other boys that

2143
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:45,000
Speaker 2: were there. I think his name was like Chris or something,

2144
01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 2: is a little bit older than me but still in school,

2145
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:51,400
Speaker 2: and he like bought wine coolers, took him to a

2146
01:50:51,479 --> 01:50:57,200
Speaker 2: hotel room right, and apparently Chris jumped out of the

2147
01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:59,840
Speaker 2: window of like a second story or some hotel to

2148
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:02,800
Speaker 2: get away with him, and I and reported him. And

2149
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 2: now that shit I just got Until that moment, it

2150
01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:08,559
Speaker 2: never even clicked with me, like, oh, he's probably been

2151
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 2: inappropriate with other people, you know what I mean, Like

2152
01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 2: this is probably his thing, like he propositioned me, and

2153
01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:17,599
Speaker 2: I was, and probably because I was a quote unquote

2154
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:20,160
Speaker 2: big boy, he was like, I ain't really want these problems,

2155
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:23,080
Speaker 2: right and left me alone. But I didn't know how

2156
01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 2: he was towards other people. I know, I wasn't the

2157
01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:27,280
Speaker 2: only person to ever get a ride home and all

2158
01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 2: that type of shit.

2159
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:30,519
Speaker 4: So you supposed to be taking him home and he

2160
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:31,960
Speaker 4: y'alled in the hotel room.

2161
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:35,960
Speaker 2: Right, So, and I'm, like I said, at that time,

2162
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:41,800
Speaker 2: I'm fifteen, sixteen, Maybe I don't have all the inner

2163
01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:44,679
Speaker 2: workings of how things should go. I watched the same

2164
01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:47,880
Speaker 2: sexual harassment video everybody else was required to watch. Come,

2165
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:51,280
Speaker 2: I knew that was wrong. I don't know. I don't

2166
01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:54,439
Speaker 2: even know who you tell that it's wrong? Right, And

2167
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 2: he's just a manager. This is the sick I would say, Wendy.

2168
01:51:58,640 --> 01:52:03,120
Speaker 2: This is essentially if they with the Day from Wendy's

2169
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:06,720
Speaker 2: God Rest is soul. That is essentially, if Day from

2170
01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:08,439
Speaker 2: Wendy's would have put his hand on my leg and

2171
01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:11,479
Speaker 2: been like, give me a massage. That's essentially the difference, right,

2172
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:15,439
Speaker 2: That's how the fuck does anyone know? At eighteen, at

2173
01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:19,360
Speaker 2: twenty at twenty two in an unregulated industry. You don't

2174
01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:22,280
Speaker 2: have health insurance, you don't do forty hours a week work,

2175
01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:25,040
Speaker 2: you don't have an HR department. Actors are, for the

2176
01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:29,160
Speaker 2: most part, are freelance workers. Right Like, if you work

2177
01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:32,400
Speaker 2: on this film, unless we signed you to a contract

2178
01:52:32,479 --> 01:52:35,720
Speaker 2: where you work several films for us, you're working a

2179
01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:41,920
Speaker 2: film at a time. What HR department? Well, tell your agent,

2180
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:45,720
Speaker 2: and then the most powerful dude the company goes, fuck you,

2181
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:49,559
Speaker 2: Fuck your agency. You're never working in Hollywood again. Fuck

2182
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 2: this bitch, get rid of her. Don't let it if

2183
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 2: she writes, if she tells anybody, I'll destroy her assuing you.

2184
01:52:57,080 --> 01:53:00,599
Speaker 2: That's what happens. So it's just interesting. So watch people

2185
01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:03,760
Speaker 2: try to flip this shit into some Oh yeah, these

2186
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:07,320
Speaker 2: women they're so they're just cowards. They just no. He's

2187
01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:10,320
Speaker 2: a picking women that are at their most vulnerable moments

2188
01:53:11,240 --> 01:53:13,800
Speaker 2: to do this shit too, on purpose, because they're the

2189
01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:16,240
Speaker 2: most easiest ones of silence and the hardest to believe.

2190
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:21,120
Speaker 2: Rose McGowan, of course got that on hundred thousand dollars

2191
01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:23,960
Speaker 2: settlement not to be conscued as in a mission by

2192
01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:26,960
Speaker 2: mister Wynstein, but attended a void litigation and buy peace

2193
01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 2: of course, she's now saying he absolutely raped her. Zelda Perkins.

2194
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:37,080
Speaker 2: Zelda Perkins, a former assistant, says she confronted him about

2195
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:39,880
Speaker 2: his conduct in nineteen ninety eight courting a former colleague.

2196
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:42,400
Speaker 2: She and several coworkers have been regularly subjected to inappropriate

2197
01:53:42,439 --> 01:53:44,920
Speaker 2: requests of comments in hotel rooms, and she was particularly

2198
01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:46,960
Speaker 2: concerned about the treatment of another woman in the office.

2199
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:49,080
Speaker 2: She told mister Wynston and he had to stop courting

2200
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 2: the former colleagues, that she would go public or initiate

2201
01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 2: legal accident actions unless he changed his behavior. Nineteen ninety eight,

2202
01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:59,120
Speaker 2: Lucy Astoler, who now goes by Lucia Evans, said he

2203
01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 2: forced her to perf He forced her to perform oral

2204
01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:04,840
Speaker 2: sex during the office meeting office. What this ain't a

2205
01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:08,519
Speaker 2: hotel office at that point. After that is when he

2206
01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:10,599
Speaker 2: assaulted me, forced me to perform oral sex on him,

2207
01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:13,280
Speaker 2: and she objected. Winstein took his penis out of his

2208
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:15,559
Speaker 2: pants and pulled her head down onto it. I said,

2209
01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:17,800
Speaker 2: over and over, I don't want to do this, Stop, don't.

2210
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:19,800
Speaker 2: I tried to get away, but maybe I didn't try

2211
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:21,960
Speaker 2: hard enough. I didn't want to kick him or fight him.

2212
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:23,920
Speaker 2: In the end, he's a big guy. He overpowered me.

2213
01:54:24,240 --> 01:54:26,240
Speaker 4: Right, and fuck her up. I don't know why people

2214
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 4: act like you fight all of a sudden.

2215
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:31,760
Speaker 2: You won't get fucked up, right. I also noticing a

2216
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:34,840
Speaker 2: certain things. He seems to be more aggressive with women

2217
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:37,480
Speaker 2: at art from the United States too. Just looking at

2218
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:42,080
Speaker 2: this pattern. Actress Asia Argento said he caused her in

2219
01:54:42,160 --> 01:54:45,000
Speaker 2: the oral sex in his hotel room. Said that after

2220
01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 2: she reluctantly agreed to give him a massage, he pulled

2221
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:50,320
Speaker 2: her skirt up, forced her legs apart perform a sex

2222
01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:52,680
Speaker 2: on her. She repeatedly told him to stop, she said,

2223
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:55,040
Speaker 2: terrified me. He was so big it wouldn't stop. It

2224
01:54:55,120 --> 01:54:57,480
Speaker 2: was a nightmare. At some point she stopped saying, though,

2225
01:54:57,600 --> 01:54:59,480
Speaker 2: and then feigned enjoy it because she thought it was

2226
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:02,440
Speaker 2: the only way it would end. I was not willing,

2227
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:05,320
Speaker 2: she said. I said, no, no, no, no, it's twisted.

2228
01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:06,960
Speaker 2: A big, fat man wanted to eat you. It's a

2229
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:10,360
Speaker 2: scary fairy tale. Agento, who insisted that she wanted to

2230
01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 2: tell a story in all his complexity, said she didn't

2231
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:15,760
Speaker 2: physically fight him off, something that has prompted years of guilt.

2232
01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:19,480
Speaker 3: Right, and that's the thing, and that's the shit that

2233
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:24,240
Speaker 3: killed me is that people act like will because you

2234
01:55:24,320 --> 01:55:27,000
Speaker 3: didn't put this fucking big fight in y'all, didn't break

2235
01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:28,320
Speaker 3: dishes and and.

2236
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:31,880
Speaker 4: Nobody was fucked up that you and cahooch to have

2237
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:34,520
Speaker 4: this to happen. That's not always so right.

2238
01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:41,320
Speaker 2: Uh, Mira Savino would call him showing up to her apartment. Uh,

2239
01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:45,400
Speaker 2: he started misogy mob shoulders was maybe very important, uncomfortable,

2240
01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 2: and then tried to get more physical, sort of chasing

2241
01:55:47,480 --> 01:55:51,640
Speaker 2: me around, chasing her around, y'all. She thinks for this,

2242
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:53,880
Speaker 2: he just look, he just thinks he's acts want to

2243
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:56,640
Speaker 2: fuck him for these parts he's chasing him around. What

2244
01:55:56,800 --> 01:55:58,600
Speaker 2: part of that feel like? Yeah, this is just part

2245
01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:01,960
Speaker 2: of the process. She scrambled for ways of water off,

2246
01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:04,200
Speaker 2: telling him it was against her religion to date married men.

2247
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:06,480
Speaker 2: At the time, he was married to Eve Childon, a

2248
01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:11,080
Speaker 2: former assistant. Then she left the room model amberbat but

2249
01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:15,120
Speaker 2: Teilana Gaturierez Gutierrez reported her assault and then worked with

2250
01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:19,960
Speaker 2: the police recovered that story. French actress Emma day Kahn

2251
01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:22,840
Speaker 2: said he emerged from a shower naked, erected and struck

2252
01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:26,040
Speaker 2: her to lie on the bed. I was very petrified,

2253
01:56:26,120 --> 01:56:27,400
Speaker 2: but I didn't want to show him that I was

2254
01:56:27,440 --> 01:56:29,720
Speaker 2: petrified because I could feel that the more I was

2255
01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:32,080
Speaker 2: freaking out, the more he was excited. It was like

2256
01:56:32,120 --> 01:56:34,000
Speaker 2: a hundred with a wild animal. The fear turns him

2257
01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:38,320
Speaker 2: on uh sheet. She said. She was leaving in panic.

2258
01:56:38,680 --> 01:56:41,600
Speaker 2: We haven't done anything. She remember him saying, it's like

2259
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:45,760
Speaker 2: being in a wild Disney movie. What does that mean?

2260
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:52,360
Speaker 2: We haven't done anything, Actress Rosanna. By the way, that's assault.

2261
01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:56,040
Speaker 2: Just that by itself is considered assault legally, and we

2262
01:56:56,120 --> 01:56:58,120
Speaker 2: haven't done anything. I don't know why you're acting like

2263
01:56:59,080 --> 01:57:01,600
Speaker 2: actress Rosanna. Are Cat said he exposed himself to her

2264
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:04,680
Speaker 2: in this hotel room. She recalled that while she was

2265
01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:07,520
Speaker 2: arriving at the room, he opened the door wearing a

2266
01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:09,680
Speaker 2: white bathroom said that his neck was sore. He need

2267
01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:11,960
Speaker 2: a massage. She told him that she could recommend a

2268
01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:14,440
Speaker 2: good messuse. Then he grabbed my hand, she said, he

2269
01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:16,840
Speaker 2: put it on his neck. Then when she yanked away

2270
01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:19,400
Speaker 2: her hand away, he grabbed it again and pulled it

2271
01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:21,400
Speaker 2: towards his penis, which is visible at a wreck. My

2272
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:23,840
Speaker 2: heart was really racing. It was a fight or flight moment,

2273
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:27,120
Speaker 2: she said. She told Wystein, I will never do that

2274
01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:32,120
Speaker 2: after Actress Jessica Barr, what's supposed to happen after that?

2275
01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:35,200
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like and now we just

2276
01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:38,520
Speaker 2: sat down and had a good marketing meaning actress Jessica

2277
01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:41,840
Speaker 2: Barr said Weinstein made suggestive advances in the hotel room.

2278
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:45,840
Speaker 2: He alternated between offering a cast and the film and

2279
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:48,920
Speaker 2: demanding the naked massage in the bed. So what would

2280
01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 2: happen if say we were having some champagne, I took

2281
01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:52,880
Speaker 2: my clothes off and you gave me a massage? She

2282
01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:55,120
Speaker 2: would call him asking, and I'm like, that's not going

2283
01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:57,520
Speaker 2: to happen. When she moved toward the door to leave,

2284
01:57:57,600 --> 01:57:59,720
Speaker 2: he lashed out, saying that she needed to lose weight

2285
01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 2: to compete with me La Coonis, and then appeared in

2286
01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:05,400
Speaker 2: the effort to modify her, promising a meeting with one

2287
01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:08,720
Speaker 2: of his female executives. He was and we heard that clip.

2288
01:58:09,120 --> 01:58:09,520
Speaker 4: He said.

2289
01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:12,480
Speaker 2: He's one of those people that says anything, Oh you

2290
01:58:12,480 --> 01:58:14,840
Speaker 2: don't want to be my friend? Yeah, yeah, just a mistake,

2291
01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:16,560
Speaker 2: come on, embarrassment.

2292
01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:19,680
Speaker 4: So he got the lines right right, And but it's like,

2293
01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:20,200
Speaker 4: like I.

2294
01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:22,600
Speaker 2: Said, it's Pep Bayley, Peugh. It's not some like he's

2295
01:58:22,680 --> 01:58:25,120
Speaker 2: he he's a he becomes like a rabbit dog. It's

2296
01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:28,800
Speaker 2: not some you know, measured out like, well, listen, if

2297
01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:30,880
Speaker 2: you don't want to do this, listen, come on, No

2298
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:33,600
Speaker 2: you're bassing. No, I won't take nothing. Come in here. No,

2299
01:58:33,680 --> 01:58:36,600
Speaker 2: you got to do this. Let me listen. It's I'm

2300
01:58:36,600 --> 01:58:38,360
Speaker 2: not I'm a nice guy. I'm like, I want to

2301
01:58:38,400 --> 01:58:39,840
Speaker 2: be a friend. Okay, you don't want me to be

2302
01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:41,840
Speaker 2: an enemy? Listen, I can ruin your career. I have

2303
01:58:41,960 --> 01:58:43,600
Speaker 2: a meeting set up for you. Like he's saying, this

2304
01:58:43,640 --> 01:58:46,680
Speaker 2: ship rapid fire at you, overwhelming. It's like, I gotta

2305
01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:48,040
Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here, you know.

2306
01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:49,440
Speaker 4: Uh.

2307
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:53,080
Speaker 2: TV reporter Laurence Sivin recalled him masturbating in front of her.

2308
01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:54,680
Speaker 3: Uh.

2309
01:58:54,840 --> 01:58:56,840
Speaker 2: That's when he cornered me and his vegetaball leaned in.

2310
01:58:56,920 --> 01:58:58,960
Speaker 2: They tried to kiss me. I immediately rebuffed. I said, whoa,

2311
01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:01,200
Speaker 2: whoa woe. I had no idea what this was. I'm sorry,

2312
01:59:01,520 --> 01:59:03,720
Speaker 2: I'll have a very serious boyfriend. I'm not interested. I

2313
01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:06,240
Speaker 2: thought it was in there. Instead, she said, he refused

2314
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:08,200
Speaker 2: to let her leave. Then he blocked the interest. He said,

2315
01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:11,080
Speaker 2: just stand there and be quiet. I stood that, dumb founder.

2316
01:59:11,080 --> 01:59:17,440
Speaker 2: He exposed himself and began masturbating actress Ramaala Garai said,

2317
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:20,000
Speaker 2: he came to the hotel room door in his robe.

2318
01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:24,560
Speaker 2: Keep in mind, half of these, y'all wouldn't have even

2319
01:59:24,920 --> 01:59:29,520
Speaker 2: most people in this society would not have even remotely

2320
01:59:29,560 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 2: felt like, well, now he needs to be fired half

2321
01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:34,960
Speaker 2: of these at least? Well what he asked for a massage?

2322
01:59:35,240 --> 01:59:39,320
Speaker 2: I mean, damn bitch, he's supposed to lose his company

2323
01:59:39,360 --> 01:59:39,640
Speaker 2: over that.

2324
01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:41,640
Speaker 4: Did your boss have you massage?

2325
01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:45,040
Speaker 2: Right? They immediately would have jumped to that, it's nothing happened.

2326
01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:47,760
Speaker 4: You better go over there and pay a massage. Envy

2327
01:59:47,840 --> 01:59:49,600
Speaker 4: for that problem dog. Right.

2328
01:59:49,680 --> 01:59:51,520
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, when I was in that van

2329
01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:54,160
Speaker 2: and that dude grab my leg, I thought to myself,

2330
01:59:54,320 --> 01:59:57,120
Speaker 2: who the fuck is gonna He grabbed my leg and

2331
01:59:57,360 --> 02:00:00,520
Speaker 2: I said, let me out? He let me out. Well,

2332
02:00:00,560 --> 02:00:02,000
Speaker 2: I mean, why would he need to be fired for that?

2333
02:00:03,160 --> 02:00:04,040
Speaker 2: He didn't do anything?

2334
02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:05,680
Speaker 3: You know?

2335
02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:08,880
Speaker 2: Uh that I get. I'm fifteen, he's thirty. I never

2336
02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:11,400
Speaker 2: thought literally until that that story about the dude in

2337
02:00:11,400 --> 02:00:14,080
Speaker 2: the hotel. I was like, oh shit, yeah, he's probably

2338
02:00:14,160 --> 02:00:18,880
Speaker 2: That's probably the least of things he's done. Luis got Godbold,

2339
02:00:19,360 --> 02:00:22,000
Speaker 2: who runs a nonprofit echo parent in an education road

2340
02:00:22,040 --> 02:00:25,080
Speaker 2: about an encounter involving a massage request. The details of

2341
02:00:25,120 --> 02:00:27,320
Speaker 2: what I learned was not unique to me. Out there

2342
02:00:27,440 --> 02:00:30,680
Speaker 2: now the office tour that became an occasion to trap

2343
02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:33,520
Speaker 2: me in an empty meeting room, begging for an office toy.

2344
02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:36,360
Speaker 2: Y'all at an office once again, his hand on my shoulders.

2345
02:00:36,360 --> 02:00:38,240
Speaker 2: I attended to beat her retreat, all while not wanting

2346
02:00:38,240 --> 02:00:42,560
Speaker 2: to alienate the most powerful man in Hollywood. Yep, and

2347
02:00:42,720 --> 02:00:44,720
Speaker 2: she runs an she runs a non She's not even

2348
02:00:44,760 --> 02:00:46,280
Speaker 2: an actress, So what are you? What's your excuse?

2349
02:00:46,320 --> 02:00:46,440
Speaker 6: Now?

2350
02:00:47,240 --> 02:00:49,280
Speaker 2: She just wanted them parts. I mean, there's really other

2351
02:00:49,360 --> 02:00:53,080
Speaker 2: women's fault for fucking him. Gwyneth Paltrow said Weinstein sexually

2352
02:00:53,120 --> 02:00:55,240
Speaker 2: harassed her when she was twenty two years old film

2353
02:00:55,280 --> 02:00:58,080
Speaker 2: and Emma Uh. He summoned her to a switen in

2354
02:00:58,480 --> 02:01:02,440
Speaker 2: uh Peninsula Beverly Hills hotel for a work meaning that

2355
02:01:02,720 --> 02:01:05,800
Speaker 2: became uneventfully. It ended with him placing his hands on

2356
02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:08,680
Speaker 2: her and suggesting they head to the bedroom for massages.

2357
02:01:08,760 --> 02:01:11,640
Speaker 2: I was a kid, I was signed up. I was petrified,

2358
02:01:13,600 --> 02:01:16,240
Speaker 2: she said. An interview publicly disclosed she was sexually harassed

2359
02:01:16,280 --> 02:01:18,280
Speaker 2: by the man who ignited her career and later helped

2360
02:01:18,320 --> 02:01:21,960
Speaker 2: her win the Academy Award. That's the other thing. If

2361
02:01:22,000 --> 02:01:24,600
Speaker 2: you were quiet for some of these women, he helped

2362
02:01:24,600 --> 02:01:27,720
Speaker 2: your career out. So now you got so, now you

2363
02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:31,320
Speaker 2: got the you got the cash. Twenty two of the

2364
02:01:31,400 --> 02:01:34,800
Speaker 2: women that said something ended up getting fucking destroyed.

2365
02:01:36,080 --> 02:01:36,240
Speaker 4: Right.

2366
02:01:36,440 --> 02:01:40,480
Speaker 2: The women who don't say something he can now hide behind. Well,

2367
02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:42,440
Speaker 2: I'm made. I mean, I made you who you are.

2368
02:01:43,320 --> 02:01:46,200
Speaker 2: I helped you get this film. I mean it was

2369
02:01:46,280 --> 02:01:48,480
Speaker 2: just a misunderstanding. I mean what was I mean, look

2370
02:01:48,520 --> 02:01:51,760
Speaker 2: as long asy iall did anything, you know, and honestly,

2371
02:01:52,160 --> 02:01:55,680
Speaker 2: Gwynep Paltrow just had a looking at at what she

2372
02:01:55,800 --> 02:01:58,040
Speaker 2: went through. It was just a creepy moment. Oh he

2373
02:01:58,160 --> 02:02:00,000
Speaker 2: tried to fuck me and then I left. He didn't

2374
02:02:00,160 --> 02:02:02,280
Speaker 2: pull his dick out, slam me on the bed or anything.

2375
02:02:03,080 --> 02:02:05,080
Speaker 2: I can see why a twenty two year old gun

2376
02:02:05,240 --> 02:02:08,800
Speaker 2: Potro was like, yeah, I just thought that was inappropriate.

2377
02:02:08,880 --> 02:02:11,280
Speaker 2: But then I continue to work and now I'm fucking

2378
02:02:11,320 --> 02:02:13,840
Speaker 2: Gwyneth Paltrol and I'm fine with it. Yeah, And then

2379
02:02:13,880 --> 02:02:16,360
Speaker 2: you find out and then he also beat or rape

2380
02:02:16,400 --> 02:02:18,360
Speaker 2: women or whatever the fuck, and then it's like, oh, yeah,

2381
02:02:18,400 --> 02:02:21,360
Speaker 2: well okay in this pattern, that's way more fucked up.

2382
02:02:21,560 --> 02:02:24,680
Speaker 2: But I didn't know Angelina. Joe Lee recalled while see

2383
02:02:24,760 --> 02:02:27,600
Speaker 2: making sexual advances in the hotel room, had a bad

2384
02:02:27,640 --> 02:02:29,480
Speaker 2: experience with him in my youth. As a result, chose

2385
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:31,160
Speaker 2: to never worked with him again and warn others when

2386
02:02:31,200 --> 02:02:33,800
Speaker 2: they did. This behavior towards women in any feel, any

2387
02:02:33,800 --> 02:02:37,440
Speaker 2: country is unacceptable, she said in the email. Catherine Kendall

2388
02:02:37,520 --> 02:02:40,880
Speaker 2: said he chased her around the hotel room. She said

2389
02:02:40,920 --> 02:02:44,960
Speaker 2: she was nervous, but it was daytime, daytime. While once again,

2390
02:02:45,720 --> 02:02:47,959
Speaker 2: why would you go to his hotel room. It's daytime,

2391
02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:50,200
Speaker 2: it's a business meeting. I thought I'd be fine to

2392
02:02:50,240 --> 02:02:53,120
Speaker 2: those niggas gonna be walking around chasing me, She relaxed

2393
02:02:53,200 --> 02:02:54,920
Speaker 2: when she saw pictures of his wife on the wall.

2394
02:02:55,200 --> 02:02:57,440
Speaker 2: He's keeping a professional He makes me a drink, talks

2395
02:02:57,440 --> 02:02:59,280
Speaker 2: about movies and art and books for about an hour.

2396
02:02:59,360 --> 02:03:02,879
Speaker 2: I thought he's taken me seriously. He went to the bathroom,

2397
02:03:03,000 --> 02:03:04,960
Speaker 2: came back in a rope, asked her to give him

2398
02:03:04,960 --> 02:03:08,600
Speaker 2: a massage. Everybody does it, he says, and mentioned a

2399
02:03:08,680 --> 02:03:10,960
Speaker 2: famous model's name. She refused. She left the room and

2400
02:03:11,120 --> 02:03:13,920
Speaker 2: returned nwe and he left the room then he returned nude.

2401
02:03:15,280 --> 02:03:20,880
Speaker 2: Tommy and Roberts, a then inspiring actress. What happened to her? Said,

2402
02:03:20,920 --> 02:03:23,040
Speaker 2: Weinstein tried to get her to take her top off

2403
02:03:23,080 --> 02:03:25,400
Speaker 2: in front of him. When she arrived, she was nude

2404
02:03:25,480 --> 02:03:28,360
Speaker 2: in a bathtub. He told her that she would give

2405
02:03:28,400 --> 02:03:30,760
Speaker 2: a much better audition if she was comfortable getting naked

2406
02:03:30,800 --> 02:03:33,600
Speaker 2: in front of him too, because the character she played

2407
02:03:33,600 --> 02:03:35,840
Speaker 2: would have a top of scene. If she could not

2408
02:03:35,960 --> 02:03:37,640
Speaker 2: bear a breast in private, she would not be able

2409
02:03:37,680 --> 02:03:39,480
Speaker 2: to do it on the film. She would call him, saying,

2410
02:03:41,200 --> 02:03:44,280
Speaker 2: Judith god Reach said he requested a massage in the

2411
02:03:44,320 --> 02:03:48,040
Speaker 2: hotel room upstairs. He asked her to give her a massage.

2412
02:03:48,240 --> 02:03:51,680
Speaker 2: That's another thing. These some of these meetings, they occurred

2413
02:03:52,040 --> 02:03:55,320
Speaker 2: like not in the hotel room at first. So it's

2414
02:03:55,360 --> 02:03:58,000
Speaker 2: not even like and now let's come to the hotel

2415
02:03:58,000 --> 02:03:59,560
Speaker 2: because I'm gonna be fucking you. It's like, come to

2416
02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:01,720
Speaker 2: the hotel, have a business meeting, and it just so

2417
02:04:01,840 --> 02:04:03,720
Speaker 2: happens like oh yeah, and then you know, just coming

2418
02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:06,080
Speaker 2: up to the room, Oh, I'll had a clothes on it,

2419
02:04:06,120 --> 02:04:07,720
Speaker 2: I need a massage. The fuck just got to do

2420
02:04:07,800 --> 02:04:11,960
Speaker 2: with what we were talking about, she said, No, he

2421
02:04:12,120 --> 02:04:15,480
Speaker 2: argued that casual massages were an American custom, Like I said,

2422
02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:18,160
Speaker 2: like picking on women that's not from here. He gave.

2423
02:04:18,760 --> 02:04:20,720
Speaker 2: He gave them to a secretary all the time. The

2424
02:04:20,800 --> 02:04:22,600
Speaker 2: next thing I know, he's pressing up against me, pulling

2425
02:04:22,640 --> 02:04:24,920
Speaker 2: off my sweater. She pulled away and left. The sweet.

2426
02:04:25,400 --> 02:04:30,000
Speaker 2: The sweet, not the hotel room. The sweet. There's a difference.

2427
02:04:31,280 --> 02:04:34,360
Speaker 2: Costume designer Don Dunning said Weinstein coursed her in his

2428
02:04:34,480 --> 02:04:38,680
Speaker 2: hotel room while wearing a bathrobe. Then his assistant invited

2429
02:04:38,760 --> 02:04:41,360
Speaker 2: her to a meal with mister Winstein at the hotel room.

2430
02:04:41,440 --> 02:04:44,520
Speaker 2: Is Dunning headed to the restaurant, where she was told

2431
02:04:44,560 --> 02:04:47,200
Speaker 2: that he was earlier, that the earlier meeting was running late,

2432
02:04:47,480 --> 02:04:50,720
Speaker 2: so she should head up to his suite. So he

2433
02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:53,840
Speaker 2: got her there in the frost pretenses again there's no meeting.

2434
02:04:53,960 --> 02:04:56,280
Speaker 2: He was in the bathroom behind a coffee table covered

2435
02:04:56,280 --> 02:04:59,640
Speaker 2: with papers, she told. He told her that there were

2436
02:04:59,680 --> 02:05:02,120
Speaker 2: contras asks for his next three films. According to miss Dunning,

2437
02:05:02,320 --> 02:05:04,360
Speaker 2: but she will only sign him if she would have

2438
02:05:04,480 --> 02:05:08,160
Speaker 2: three way sex with him. Heather Grave recalled why and see,

2439
02:05:08,280 --> 02:05:13,520
Speaker 2: making a sexually suggestive comment that made her uncomfortable. He said,

2440
02:05:13,520 --> 02:05:14,920
Speaker 2: I want to put you in one of my movies,

2441
02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:16,960
Speaker 2: he said, and offered the letter her choose which one

2442
02:05:17,000 --> 02:05:19,400
Speaker 2: she liked best. Later in the conversation, he mentioned that

2443
02:05:19,400 --> 02:05:21,040
Speaker 2: he had an agreement with his wife he could sleep

2444
02:05:21,040 --> 02:05:23,160
Speaker 2: with whoever he wanted when she when he was out

2445
02:05:23,200 --> 02:05:25,520
Speaker 2: of town. I walked out the meeting feeling uneasy. There

2446
02:05:25,600 --> 02:05:27,840
Speaker 2: was no explicit mention that to Starr in his films,

2447
02:05:27,840 --> 02:05:29,640
Speaker 2: I'll have to sleep with him, with the subtextas death.

2448
02:05:30,920 --> 02:05:32,920
Speaker 2: Caro de Lavigne told us about the three So when

2449
02:05:33,000 --> 02:05:38,240
Speaker 2: she started singing to get out the room, which I

2450
02:05:38,320 --> 02:05:40,440
Speaker 2: mean I think she was. Also, I mean she's still young.

2451
02:05:41,120 --> 02:05:44,160
Speaker 2: She was like twenty or something like that. Actress Lee

2452
02:05:44,320 --> 02:05:46,600
Speaker 2: Sado said he tried to kiss her in the hotel

2453
02:05:46,640 --> 02:05:49,400
Speaker 2: room and she had to fight him off. He tried

2454
02:05:49,440 --> 02:05:52,760
Speaker 2: more than ones, very dominant loser control. I pushed him physically.

2455
02:05:52,800 --> 02:05:55,720
Speaker 2: I think he respected me because I resisted him. Yeah,

2456
02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:59,800
Speaker 2: with respect, Okay, you know what I mean? Like, oh,

2457
02:05:59,840 --> 02:06:01,520
Speaker 2: you know I now I really see you as a

2458
02:06:01,600 --> 02:06:02,040
Speaker 2: human being.

2459
02:06:02,280 --> 02:06:04,839
Speaker 4: I ain't no respect, right, You're not an easy target.

2460
02:06:04,960 --> 02:06:07,560
Speaker 2: But it's also that thing too, where you want to

2461
02:06:07,640 --> 02:06:10,160
Speaker 2: shame the women that gave in or didn't fight it,

2462
02:06:10,600 --> 02:06:13,960
Speaker 2: or were sexually assaulted, like, well, he doesn't respect you

2463
02:06:14,320 --> 02:06:17,040
Speaker 2: because you don't respect yourself. You didn't fight him like

2464
02:06:17,200 --> 02:06:20,280
Speaker 2: I fought him. But now I have his respect, and

2465
02:06:20,440 --> 02:06:21,480
Speaker 2: you're just a whore.

2466
02:06:21,520 --> 02:06:21,720
Speaker 4: You know.

2467
02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:24,880
Speaker 2: Kate Beconsdale and why said why I see offer her

2468
02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:27,440
Speaker 2: alcohol in this hotel room when she was seventeen, and

2469
02:06:27,560 --> 02:06:31,880
Speaker 2: she repeatedly declined the sexual advances over the years, right

2470
02:06:32,040 --> 02:06:38,840
Speaker 2: over the years. Yep, seventeen. An actress Claire Flani said

2471
02:06:38,840 --> 02:06:41,000
Speaker 2: he suggested a massage in this hotel room that she

2472
02:06:41,160 --> 02:06:45,600
Speaker 2: escaped him five times. Good God, but that's just yeah, yeah,

2473
02:06:46,000 --> 02:06:48,920
Speaker 2: call you there for a business meeting. Halfway through, Hey,

2474
02:06:49,920 --> 02:06:52,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need a massage, and that's when you know

2475
02:06:52,680 --> 02:06:54,320
Speaker 2: the bullshit is and the jig is up, Like, I

2476
02:06:54,360 --> 02:06:56,920
Speaker 2: gotta get the fuck out of here all our members.

2477
02:06:56,960 --> 02:06:58,840
Speaker 2: I ducked and died the ultimately got out of there

2478
02:06:58,880 --> 02:07:01,760
Speaker 2: without getting slabbered over well just a bit. Yes, massage

2479
02:07:01,920 --> 02:07:05,120
Speaker 2: was suggested the Three Dinners with Harvey. I don't really

2480
02:07:05,200 --> 02:07:07,040
Speaker 2: remember at the time period, I was twenty five. I

2481
02:07:07,080 --> 02:07:08,960
Speaker 2: remember him telling me all the actresses who had slept

2482
02:07:09,000 --> 02:07:12,520
Speaker 2: with him and what he had done for them. Keep

2483
02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:14,320
Speaker 2: in mind the women that he's talking out slept with.

2484
02:07:16,320 --> 02:07:20,200
Speaker 2: It makes you wonder under what circumstances was that sex,

2485
02:07:20,840 --> 02:07:23,240
Speaker 2: because in his mind he considers all this shit like

2486
02:07:23,480 --> 02:07:25,880
Speaker 2: just part of the business. It's all consential to me.

2487
02:07:29,160 --> 02:07:32,200
Speaker 2: French actress Florence Durrell said he proposition learned a hotel

2488
02:07:32,280 --> 02:07:36,040
Speaker 2: room while his wife was next door. Things quickly took

2489
02:07:36,080 --> 02:07:39,600
Speaker 2: a turn, according to Durrell. After yelling there was no

2490
02:07:39,720 --> 02:07:42,440
Speaker 2: jacuzzi in his room, Durrell claim Weinstein began to make

2491
02:07:42,520 --> 02:07:44,920
Speaker 2: moves on her, seemingly unbothered by the fact that his

2492
02:07:45,000 --> 02:07:47,120
Speaker 2: wife was next door. He started to tell me he

2493
02:07:47,200 --> 02:07:48,960
Speaker 2: found me very attractive one to have relationship with me.

2494
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:50,920
Speaker 2: I told him I was very in love with my companion.

2495
02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:53,560
Speaker 2: He replied that didn't bother him at all, and offered

2496
02:07:54,520 --> 02:07:56,640
Speaker 2: to have me be his mistress a few days a year.

2497
02:07:56,840 --> 02:07:59,480
Speaker 2: That way we could continue to work together. Basically, it

2498
02:07:59,640 --> 02:08:01,240
Speaker 2: was I want to work in America, you have to

2499
02:08:01,280 --> 02:08:05,360
Speaker 2: go through me. Terror Soukoff called him pulling her onto

2500
02:08:05,440 --> 02:08:10,320
Speaker 2: his lap while erected at a party. Actress Sarah and

2501
02:08:10,560 --> 02:08:12,960
Speaker 2: madd said he conducted an interview and hugged her while

2502
02:08:13,000 --> 02:08:17,480
Speaker 2: he was in his underwear. Minka Kelly saved proposition that

2503
02:08:17,560 --> 02:08:19,560
Speaker 2: were promises of a lavish gift if she would be

2504
02:08:19,680 --> 02:08:23,160
Speaker 2: his girlfriend. Keep in mind he was married. Right, we

2505
02:08:23,240 --> 02:08:26,080
Speaker 2: could keep this, she said, if I would be his girlfriend,

2506
02:08:26,160 --> 02:08:27,960
Speaker 2: or we could keep this professional. All I knew was

2507
02:08:28,000 --> 02:08:29,800
Speaker 2: not the Fenders, very powerful man and to get out

2508
02:08:29,800 --> 02:08:33,520
Speaker 2: of situation quickly as possible. Actress Angie Everhard said he

2509
02:08:33,640 --> 02:08:38,880
Speaker 2: masturbated in front of her to completion, to completion, Right,

2510
02:08:42,760 --> 02:08:45,160
Speaker 2: he's standing above my bed. That alone is frightening. All

2511
02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:47,000
Speaker 2: of a sudden, he takes his pants down, starts doing

2512
02:08:47,080 --> 02:08:49,320
Speaker 2: his stuff. He's blocking the door. I can't get out.

2513
02:08:49,360 --> 02:08:51,040
Speaker 2: I don't know how to say this on the radio,

2514
02:08:51,160 --> 02:08:54,520
Speaker 2: but he finishes on the carpet on the floor. Eva

2515
02:08:54,600 --> 02:08:59,400
Speaker 2: Green said she had to push him off. I wish

2516
02:08:59,400 --> 02:09:00,880
Speaker 2: to address can I's made by my mother in a

2517
02:09:00,920 --> 02:09:03,480
Speaker 2: recent interview regarding Harvey Weinstein. I met him for a

2518
02:09:03,520 --> 02:09:05,920
Speaker 2: business meeting in Paris where he behaved inappropriately. I had

2519
02:09:05,960 --> 02:09:07,920
Speaker 2: to push him off. I got away without it going further,

2520
02:09:07,960 --> 02:09:11,440
Speaker 2: but the experience left me shocked and disgusted. I loved

2521
02:09:11,520 --> 02:09:14,440
Speaker 2: this idea that if she would have came out even

2522
02:09:14,720 --> 02:09:17,240
Speaker 2: I had to push Harvey Weinstein off. We have to

2523
02:09:17,400 --> 02:09:20,400
Speaker 2: find this man and arrest him. Know y'all, wouldn't y'all

2524
02:09:20,440 --> 02:09:25,000
Speaker 2: wouldn't I just hate the lines man. Friday the thirteenth,

2525
02:09:25,560 --> 02:09:28,400
Speaker 2: Green's mother, Marlene Joebert, said in a radio interview that

2526
02:09:28,480 --> 02:09:33,080
Speaker 2: Winstein threatened to destroy her personally. He operated the exact

2527
02:09:33,120 --> 02:09:34,880
Speaker 2: same way he acted with all the others, under the

2528
02:09:34,920 --> 02:09:37,440
Speaker 2: pretext of professional meaning of a script that had to

2529
02:09:38,040 --> 02:09:41,880
Speaker 2: get to her with a nice part in the bargain

2530
02:09:42,240 --> 02:09:44,440
Speaker 2: since his office was also his hotel suite.

2531
02:09:44,960 --> 02:09:49,440
Speaker 9: His office is also his hotel suite. Why would you

2532
02:09:49,440 --> 02:09:54,320
Speaker 9: go to this hotel his office is also his hotel suite.

2533
02:09:55,480 --> 02:09:57,920
Speaker 9: Even followed him, and exact same thing happened to her

2534
02:09:57,920 --> 02:09:58,320
Speaker 9: as the others.

2535
02:09:58,320 --> 02:10:02,840
Speaker 2: She managed to escape, but he threatened to destroy her professionally. Yeah, man,

2536
02:10:03,360 --> 02:10:06,560
Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm at a loss for the stupidity

2537
02:10:06,640 --> 02:10:12,080
Speaker 2: I see people just espousing about this shit. There's some

2538
02:10:12,200 --> 02:10:15,280
Speaker 2: other stories. A talent man just sent him a trough

2539
02:10:15,360 --> 02:10:18,120
Speaker 2: of died pepsi as a joke to be like, lose

2540
02:10:18,160 --> 02:10:21,360
Speaker 2: some weight. Because he kept trying to tell her to

2541
02:10:22,320 --> 02:10:24,600
Speaker 2: leave the room so he could be along with her client,

2542
02:10:24,720 --> 02:10:27,120
Speaker 2: and she wouldn't leave because she knew this motherfucker was

2543
02:10:27,120 --> 02:10:30,440
Speaker 2: gonna try something. So yeah, she said he took it

2544
02:10:30,480 --> 02:10:33,600
Speaker 2: as a compliment, but she sent him like a pig

2545
02:10:33,680 --> 02:10:35,760
Speaker 2: trough because she was like, you fat pig and all

2546
02:10:35,800 --> 02:10:42,920
Speaker 2: this shit. They knew about the payouts this company did.

2547
02:10:43,640 --> 02:10:47,520
Speaker 2: Let's see what else he got try to wrap up.

2548
02:10:48,480 --> 02:10:52,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's also a record of him doing outlander

2549
02:10:52,160 --> 02:10:54,840
Speaker 2: shit that didn't have anything to do with sexual assault. So,

2550
02:10:55,120 --> 02:10:58,880
Speaker 2: like I said, he can hide behind just an outlanders

2551
02:10:58,920 --> 02:11:02,720
Speaker 2: passionate guy. Like why would y'all, uh you know what's

2552
02:11:02,760 --> 02:11:06,240
Speaker 2: wrong with me? While you know why? Uh well, how

2553
02:11:06,240 --> 02:11:07,960
Speaker 2: would I know it was sexual assault? I just heard

2554
02:11:08,000 --> 02:11:08,720
Speaker 2: it was just a dick.

2555
02:11:10,000 --> 02:11:10,120
Speaker 4: Uh.

2556
02:11:10,400 --> 02:11:12,200
Speaker 2: They say he was like eating M and m's off

2557
02:11:12,240 --> 02:11:15,440
Speaker 2: the floor. He cuts people out all the time. One

2558
02:11:15,480 --> 02:11:20,840
Speaker 2: time he put his hands on somebody like jacked him up, Like, yeah,

2559
02:11:20,960 --> 02:11:24,400
Speaker 2: it was ridiculous. Maybe we'll do that when tomorrow or something. Uh,

2560
02:11:25,200 --> 02:11:28,040
Speaker 2: all right, we gotta start getting out Amazon produce TV

2561
02:11:28,120 --> 02:11:32,520
Speaker 2: producer goes publer with harassment plan playing against top executive

2562
02:11:32,680 --> 02:11:37,600
Speaker 2: Roy Price, so more people coming out more. I mean,

2563
02:11:37,600 --> 02:11:41,280
Speaker 2: you knew it wasn't just him, mm hmmm, Like it's

2564
02:11:41,320 --> 02:11:42,919
Speaker 2: no way it was just Harry Weinstein.

2565
02:11:43,360 --> 02:11:45,000
Speaker 3: That's why they wanted to define him to get him

2566
02:11:45,000 --> 02:11:48,000
Speaker 3: out the door. Guess what he voted the contract he

2567
02:11:48,240 --> 02:11:49,040
Speaker 3: paid his last one?

2568
02:11:49,600 --> 02:11:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, blossom. I guess her real name is me and

2569
02:11:52,320 --> 02:11:56,360
Speaker 2: baylet Uh. She stirs controversy with sexual harassment and feminism.

2570
02:11:56,440 --> 02:12:00,400
Speaker 2: Op ed, Yeah the whole. I don't wear I don't

2571
02:12:00,400 --> 02:12:02,520
Speaker 2: wear them little dresses, and I ain't getting no surgery.

2572
02:12:03,120 --> 02:12:05,360
Speaker 2: And y'all should have made that choice too. As a

2573
02:12:05,440 --> 02:12:08,680
Speaker 2: proud feminist with little desire to diet, get plastic surgery,

2574
02:12:08,960 --> 02:12:10,920
Speaker 2: or hire a personal training, I have almost no personal

2575
02:12:10,960 --> 02:12:13,600
Speaker 2: experience with men asking me even meetings in their hotel rooms.

2576
02:12:14,000 --> 02:12:16,200
Speaker 2: Those of us in Hollywood who don't represent an a

2577
02:12:16,240 --> 02:12:19,200
Speaker 2: possible standard of beauty have the luxury of being overlooked

2578
02:12:19,200 --> 02:12:22,000
Speaker 2: and in many cases ignored by men power and power

2579
02:12:22,160 --> 02:12:23,520
Speaker 2: unless we can make them money.

2580
02:12:23,760 --> 02:12:25,440
Speaker 4: And that's always that's not true.

2581
02:12:26,040 --> 02:12:31,760
Speaker 2: First of all, she's being ridiculous, like this idea that well,

2582
02:12:32,200 --> 02:12:34,680
Speaker 2: it's about finding women attractive, that's why they do it.

2583
02:12:35,320 --> 02:12:40,520
Speaker 2: It's about power, you know, for one. But number two,

2584
02:12:41,880 --> 02:12:45,520
Speaker 2: I mean, is she asking for compliments? Am I supposed

2585
02:12:45,560 --> 02:12:45,880
Speaker 2: to be like?

2586
02:12:46,080 --> 02:12:46,280
Speaker 4: Girl?

2587
02:12:46,320 --> 02:12:47,200
Speaker 7: You know, ugly, what are you?

2588
02:12:47,920 --> 02:12:50,360
Speaker 2: What are you doing? There's nothing wrong with you blossom.

2589
02:12:51,000 --> 02:12:54,360
Speaker 2: But it immediately puts with other women in this category

2590
02:12:54,520 --> 02:13:00,360
Speaker 2: of courting the harassment that they received. You know, So

2591
02:13:00,640 --> 02:13:07,640
Speaker 2: that's the part that just being rediculous. Oh, Harvey's brother

2592
02:13:07,760 --> 02:13:10,760
Speaker 2: Bob lashes out. He's still He's like, I'm not stepping

2593
02:13:10,800 --> 02:13:13,160
Speaker 2: down from the company. Why are we not? You know,

2594
02:13:13,280 --> 02:13:14,960
Speaker 2: we might have to change the name, but were coming

2595
02:13:15,040 --> 02:13:17,200
Speaker 2: back and he's gonna get out of here, and I'm

2596
02:13:17,240 --> 02:13:20,600
Speaker 2: tied to him, blah blah. His brother. One of the

2597
02:13:20,680 --> 02:13:23,920
Speaker 2: accusers of Harvey Weinstein was his brother's girlfriend at the

2598
02:13:23,960 --> 02:13:28,160
Speaker 2: time that she accused him. His brother smeared her sided

2599
02:13:28,240 --> 02:13:31,720
Speaker 2: with his brother, sided with Harvey. Get both of y'all

2600
02:13:31,760 --> 02:13:36,200
Speaker 2: gotta go, sir. You had it in his contract. They

2601
02:13:36,240 --> 02:13:38,880
Speaker 2: don't work together. Apparently he lives on one coast the other. Dualism,

2602
02:13:39,040 --> 02:13:41,600
Speaker 2: like they have a feud or some shit. His brother

2603
02:13:42,480 --> 02:13:45,919
Speaker 2: you signed, You knew about the contract, ass sexual harassment

2604
02:13:46,040 --> 02:13:48,320
Speaker 2: in it? What are you talking about?

2605
02:13:49,800 --> 02:13:49,880
Speaker 3: Up?

2606
02:13:50,080 --> 02:13:51,160
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?

2607
02:13:51,840 --> 02:13:52,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2608
02:13:52,120 --> 02:13:55,320
Speaker 2: Man, he's disgusting. He gotta go. But I mean, as

2609
02:13:55,320 --> 02:13:57,040
Speaker 2: long as I can keep the company and you know,

2610
02:13:57,160 --> 02:14:02,360
Speaker 2: figure this out. Natalie been those as an Australian actress.

2611
02:14:02,520 --> 02:14:05,480
Speaker 2: She claimed that he he uh. I told him my

2612
02:14:05,560 --> 02:14:07,080
Speaker 2: punch him if he didn't take his hands off of me.

2613
02:14:07,200 --> 02:14:12,600
Speaker 2: After Harvey grove her during the script meeting, around the

2614
02:14:12,640 --> 02:14:15,320
Speaker 2: time she felt the great raid she had to threaten

2615
02:14:15,360 --> 02:14:19,080
Speaker 2: to punch him. Script meeting people acting like these meetings

2616
02:14:19,120 --> 02:14:21,800
Speaker 2: are even set up to be, like come to my

2617
02:14:21,920 --> 02:14:23,880
Speaker 2: room and fuck all these meetings off. Some hype of

2618
02:14:23,960 --> 02:14:26,800
Speaker 2: business meeting that got turned into some something else.

2619
02:14:28,480 --> 02:14:31,480
Speaker 4: He's not the only one doing this, all right, man.

2620
02:14:32,440 --> 02:14:35,440
Speaker 2: I think that's it for more the Harvey Weinstein part two.

2621
02:14:35,920 --> 02:14:37,400
Speaker 2: And I didn't get no wine this time.

2622
02:14:37,600 --> 02:14:40,360
Speaker 4: It's right over the wind.

2623
02:14:40,520 --> 02:14:43,880
Speaker 2: Fuck this dude, man, you know what, I feel an

2624
02:14:44,000 --> 02:14:48,240
Speaker 2: obligation to cover this shit, specifically because you know, I

2625
02:14:48,360 --> 02:14:52,400
Speaker 2: remember us covering A Parker, I remember us covering Bill Cosby.

2626
02:14:52,680 --> 02:14:55,360
Speaker 2: All this shit I don't like. I know other people

2627
02:14:55,400 --> 02:14:58,080
Speaker 2: will cover this in a way with us not detailed.

2628
02:14:58,880 --> 02:15:01,080
Speaker 2: I know they're gonna sit up here, not read the stories.

2629
02:15:01,160 --> 02:15:03,840
Speaker 2: They're gonna speculate, they're gonna say a bunch of shit

2630
02:15:03,960 --> 02:15:08,120
Speaker 2: that is anti uh, that is that is victim blaming,

2631
02:15:08,200 --> 02:15:10,000
Speaker 2: and they're gonna just hide it behind the fact that

2632
02:15:10,160 --> 02:15:12,360
Speaker 2: like I didn't look it up. But here's my hot

2633
02:15:12,400 --> 02:15:14,880
Speaker 2: take on why women are responsible for this dude being

2634
02:15:14,920 --> 02:15:18,360
Speaker 2: a predator, and I get so livid when I hear

2635
02:15:18,440 --> 02:15:20,360
Speaker 2: that shit. I don't want to have a podcast that

2636
02:15:20,520 --> 02:15:22,840
Speaker 2: is like that. This episode today might not have been

2637
02:15:22,880 --> 02:15:26,480
Speaker 2: the fucking funniest episode, but it's fucking important that it's needed.

2638
02:15:26,800 --> 02:15:30,400
Speaker 2: We have to have people that are willing to detail

2639
02:15:30,480 --> 02:15:32,520
Speaker 2: this ship. If you're gonna talk about this ship, don't

2640
02:15:32,560 --> 02:15:37,400
Speaker 2: do it haphazardly. Don't just do this shit without the

2641
02:15:37,520 --> 02:15:39,360
Speaker 2: details of it so that you can find some kind

2642
02:15:39,360 --> 02:15:41,040
Speaker 2: of way to say it's women's fault for going to

2643
02:15:41,040 --> 02:15:44,760
Speaker 2: this hotel room and shit, find out the details. These

2644
02:15:44,800 --> 02:15:48,840
Speaker 2: women aren't stupid, They're human beings. They like, these are

2645
02:15:48,880 --> 02:15:52,120
Speaker 2: people who are these niggas are people, Okay, but they're people.

2646
02:15:52,800 --> 02:15:56,400
Speaker 2: They're people who are out there being like, listen, these

2647
02:15:56,480 --> 02:15:57,880
Speaker 2: women just go to the fuck them and then you

2648
02:15:58,040 --> 02:16:02,080
Speaker 2: read account after account after count They did not do that. Now,

2649
02:16:02,200 --> 02:16:03,320
Speaker 2: some women may have fucked him.

2650
02:16:03,320 --> 02:16:03,640
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2651
02:16:03,680 --> 02:16:05,080
Speaker 2: I know there was one woman. I didn't get to

2652
02:16:05,160 --> 02:16:08,200
Speaker 2: her story, but she was sexually assaulted by him and

2653
02:16:08,400 --> 02:16:11,360
Speaker 2: kind of tried to reclaim the power by being like, well,

2654
02:16:11,440 --> 02:16:15,080
Speaker 2: now it's more like a relationship. I was his mistress

2655
02:16:15,120 --> 02:16:17,320
Speaker 2: for a few years and he helped me get parts.

2656
02:16:17,640 --> 02:16:19,680
Speaker 2: And then later I look back and realized I was

2657
02:16:19,760 --> 02:16:22,560
Speaker 2: foolish because I let him. One I let him, but

2658
02:16:23,000 --> 02:16:25,760
Speaker 2: he assaulted me, and then I actually kind of kept

2659
02:16:25,800 --> 02:16:28,760
Speaker 2: it continuing. In the power dynamic relationship. It was never

2660
02:16:28,800 --> 02:16:29,720
Speaker 2: about because.

2661
02:16:29,520 --> 02:16:31,280
Speaker 4: I still wanted quote unquote power right.

2662
02:16:31,600 --> 02:16:33,480
Speaker 2: It was about the fact that I didn't want him

2663
02:16:33,520 --> 02:16:36,360
Speaker 2: to destroy me, and I thought I could reframe it

2664
02:16:36,520 --> 02:16:39,560
Speaker 2: as well, he's not my abuse, or he's almost like

2665
02:16:39,640 --> 02:16:40,640
Speaker 2: my boyfriend or something.

2666
02:16:40,760 --> 02:16:43,600
Speaker 3: They wrote stories based off around stuff like that woman

2667
02:16:43,640 --> 02:16:45,200
Speaker 3: get raped all of a sudden, theyre in a relationship,

2668
02:16:45,240 --> 02:16:46,280
Speaker 3: and everybody think it's cute.

2669
02:16:46,600 --> 02:16:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, we'll get back to some funny

2670
02:16:48,640 --> 02:16:49,600
Speaker 2: shit tomorrow hopefully.

2671
02:16:49,680 --> 02:16:49,880
Speaker 3: Man.

2672
02:16:51,160 --> 02:16:55,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, it shit, it's so serious and I need

2673
02:16:56,000 --> 02:16:58,119
Speaker 2: people to stop being flipping. I need people to stop

2674
02:16:58,160 --> 02:17:01,800
Speaker 2: being ignorant. I need people to actually read educate themselves.

2675
02:17:01,920 --> 02:17:04,400
Speaker 2: All these women also tell you why they didn't come forward,

2676
02:17:05,000 --> 02:17:07,960
Speaker 2: how they came forward and were shot down, the people

2677
02:17:08,000 --> 02:17:10,320
Speaker 2: that paid the consequences for this. This doesn't happen in

2678
02:17:10,360 --> 02:17:13,200
Speaker 2: a vacuum. Stop saying stupid shit. If I could just

2679
02:17:13,280 --> 02:17:17,240
Speaker 2: get people to stop saying stupid shit and read this

2680
02:17:17,280 --> 02:17:20,000
Speaker 2: stuff because that's all I'm doing. It's not like I'm

2681
02:17:20,040 --> 02:17:22,840
Speaker 2: coming up with these hair brain conspiracies. I'm just reading

2682
02:17:22,920 --> 02:17:25,040
Speaker 2: what Oh okay, well, yeah, I wouldn't come forward too.

2683
02:17:25,040 --> 02:17:27,560
Speaker 2: If the nigga was talking about I'm gonna destroy your career.

2684
02:17:27,640 --> 02:17:31,039
Speaker 2: He just destroyed somebody else's career, you know. Like I said,

2685
02:17:31,080 --> 02:17:32,720
Speaker 2: it's like if Dave put his hand on my leg

2686
02:17:32,800 --> 02:17:35,320
Speaker 2: in that van. Nigga, What the fuck am I supposed

2687
02:17:35,320 --> 02:17:38,640
Speaker 2: to do? I know this ain't taking down the company.

2688
02:17:38,680 --> 02:17:40,840
Speaker 2: I gotta figure out another way to make a living.

2689
02:17:41,360 --> 02:17:45,440
Speaker 2: Get out out anyway, all right, guys. Can't get out

2690
02:17:45,480 --> 02:17:48,160
Speaker 2: here we're talking about without talking about soord raction this stuff, guys. Okay,

2691
02:17:48,400 --> 02:17:51,360
Speaker 2: all right, we gotta as much of a scourge as

2692
02:17:51,360 --> 02:17:55,080
Speaker 2: Harvey is. There's another real scourge we deal with every

2693
02:17:55,160 --> 02:17:56,240
Speaker 2: day in America.

2694
02:17:56,360 --> 02:17:59,080
Speaker 4: And the world, and they need to be sys need

2695
02:17:59,120 --> 02:17:59,800
Speaker 4: to be taken down.

2696
02:18:00,120 --> 02:18:01,880
Speaker 2: Unregulated sword ratchetness.

2697
02:18:02,040 --> 02:18:04,920
Speaker 4: Okay, guys, I'm not here for it.

2698
02:18:07,400 --> 02:18:08,760
Speaker 2: The longest sound effect.

2699
02:18:08,480 --> 02:18:10,760
Speaker 4: In the world, Elvo. One day, I hope he gonna

2700
02:18:10,760 --> 02:18:11,160
Speaker 4: make it, but.

2701
02:18:11,280 --> 02:18:16,080
Speaker 2: He always a man was left with permanent disabilities, y'all.

2702
02:18:16,680 --> 02:18:22,040
Speaker 2: Oh shit, permanent disabilities After being attacked by a brothel

2703
02:18:22,120 --> 02:18:25,640
Speaker 2: owners in Dubai, three men letting assault on visitors to

2704
02:18:25,720 --> 02:18:28,800
Speaker 2: a brothel they ran, leaving their victims with permanent disabilities.

2705
02:18:29,200 --> 02:18:33,040
Speaker 2: The three from Vietnam were among more than ten men

2706
02:18:33,080 --> 02:18:35,520
Speaker 2: who set upon an moraty off duty for police officer

2707
02:18:35,600 --> 02:18:38,480
Speaker 2: twenty nine and the Indian friend twenty five with knives

2708
02:18:38,520 --> 02:18:42,000
Speaker 2: and swords. Dubai Criminal Court heard the attack happened with

2709
02:18:42,080 --> 02:18:44,560
Speaker 2: the pair. When the pair rel realized the massage followed

2710
02:18:44,560 --> 02:18:47,400
Speaker 2: they visited was a brothel, so the cop came in

2711
02:18:47,520 --> 02:18:49,879
Speaker 2: and they went, I guess they wouldn't have massage. They

2712
02:18:49,920 --> 02:18:52,360
Speaker 2: realized it was prostitution. They're like, oh, we gotta do something.

2713
02:18:52,720 --> 02:18:55,520
Speaker 2: And the people that ran the brothel was like, mm.

2714
02:18:55,400 --> 02:18:57,440
Speaker 4: Mmm, this what you ain't gonna do. You ain't taking

2715
02:18:57,480 --> 02:18:58,200
Speaker 4: our business away.

2716
02:18:58,680 --> 02:19:02,359
Speaker 2: Uh so yeah, they said that they narrowly survived the assault.

2717
02:19:02,480 --> 02:19:04,800
Speaker 2: They decided to confront the men who ran the premises.

2718
02:19:04,840 --> 02:19:06,640
Speaker 2: I spoke to one of the de fitinis and told

2719
02:19:06,720 --> 02:19:08,760
Speaker 2: him that this business was illegal and that I would

2720
02:19:09,080 --> 02:19:11,360
Speaker 2: contacted the police to send the patrol. At that point,

2721
02:19:11,640 --> 02:19:13,959
Speaker 2: he ran towards the baccony and jumped out the other

2722
02:19:14,040 --> 02:19:16,880
Speaker 2: two men also ran away, so the Mridi Indian man

2723
02:19:16,959 --> 02:19:18,960
Speaker 2: walked out of the building, but as they reached to

2724
02:19:19,040 --> 02:19:21,959
Speaker 2: the for their mobile mobile phone to call the police,

2725
02:19:22,200 --> 02:19:23,880
Speaker 2: they were met by a gang of more than ten.

2726
02:19:24,600 --> 02:19:26,760
Speaker 4: Right, you've been built off just leaving and calling them

2727
02:19:26,800 --> 02:19:28,440
Speaker 4: and sending them back. I don't know what you thought

2728
02:19:28,480 --> 02:19:30,280
Speaker 4: you were gonna do. And they're on their turf top

2729
02:19:30,959 --> 02:19:31,480
Speaker 4: police or.

2730
02:19:31,480 --> 02:19:34,879
Speaker 2: Word, that's a classic TV and movie trope. Then they

2731
02:19:35,000 --> 02:19:38,840
Speaker 2: gonna kill the person. They're always like, listen, what you're

2732
02:19:38,959 --> 02:19:42,280
Speaker 2: doing here is highly illegal. You can't be doing And

2733
02:19:42,320 --> 02:19:44,400
Speaker 2: then it's like, well you got now they got to

2734
02:19:44,480 --> 02:19:45,080
Speaker 2: kill your dumb man.

2735
02:19:45,160 --> 02:19:47,200
Speaker 4: They got right, they got to kill you.

2736
02:19:47,360 --> 02:19:49,280
Speaker 2: Why didn't you walk home act like you were cool

2737
02:19:49,280 --> 02:19:51,560
Speaker 2: with everything? And they called the cops and be like, hey, motherfucker,

2738
02:19:51,959 --> 02:19:55,640
Speaker 2: this nigga dumping the legal drugs like not a drug dealer.

2739
02:19:55,640 --> 02:20:00,240
Speaker 2: Gott to become a murderer. Anyway, A pass about the

2740
02:20:00,800 --> 02:20:03,120
Speaker 2: sow and then called the police. They found them in

2741
02:20:03,160 --> 02:20:06,480
Speaker 2: with severe injuries. My friend lost a finger and suffered

2742
02:20:06,560 --> 02:20:10,200
Speaker 2: multiple severe winds to the head and arms. He suffered

2743
02:20:10,200 --> 02:20:12,760
Speaker 2: to ten percent permanent disability. Wise Indian France of of

2744
02:20:12,800 --> 02:20:14,560
Speaker 2: the twenty five percent permanent disability.

2745
02:20:14,720 --> 02:20:15,280
Speaker 4: Good God.

2746
02:20:15,520 --> 02:20:17,600
Speaker 2: The defendance was twenty three, twenty four and thirty and

2747
02:20:17,640 --> 02:20:21,400
Speaker 2: they were convicted of forming a brothel keeping gang, uh,

2748
02:20:22,120 --> 02:20:26,160
Speaker 2: physical assault, and attempting murder, all which they have denied.

2749
02:20:26,840 --> 02:20:29,400
Speaker 2: All right, guys, thanks for listening. We'll be back tomorrow.

2750
02:20:29,879 --> 02:20:32,600
Speaker 2: Appreciate y'all. Until then, Love you. Wow