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Speaker 2: we have, Crystal, Indeed we do.
Speaker 1: So we have a lot to get to with regard
Speaker 1: to Biden, and also we have a lot of international
Speaker 1: news to catch up on, so we are doing all
Speaker 1: of that today. With regard to Biden, there was absolute
Speaker 1: chaos in the press briefing room yesterday. This is in
Speaker 1: regards to visits to the White House repeatedly of a
Speaker 1: Parkinson's expert. They wanted to stonewall and not acknowledged she
Speaker 1: was there. It was a crazy situation. So we'll show
Speaker 1: you all of that and also what they are saying
Speaker 1: now this morning. Today is perhaps the critical day for
Speaker 1: Biden and his real life bid. This is when House
Speaker 1: Democrats in the House and the Senate are meeting, so
Speaker 1: we'll show you what top democrats are saying about all
Speaker 1: of that, the views, Wopy Goldberg giving him an interesting endorsement,
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Speaker 1: Biden for once, So we'll show you all of that.
Speaker 1: We also have some updates for you with regard to Israel.
Speaker 1: The death count in Gaza now maybe as high as
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand. That's according to a leading medical journal.
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Speaker 2: as Crystal said, there was absolute chaos that erupted in
Speaker 2: the White House breathing room after a story began to
Speaker 2: develop that we brought everybody yesterday the revelation that a
Speaker 2: Parkinson's expert had visited the White House some dozen times
Speaker 2: in the last two years, and in one case met
Speaker 2: with President Biden's official White House physician. Since that revelation,
Speaker 2: the White House Press Corps began pressing the Press Secretary
Speaker 2: Kaareane Jean Pierre. Why did this Parkinson's expert visit the
Speaker 2: White House? This came after Kareem Jean Pierre lied to
Speaker 2: the press corps about Biden having a medical examination after
Speaker 2: the debate.
Speaker 3: Here is what happened in that.
Speaker 4: Exchange that he gets every year that we provide to all.
Speaker 3: That's very basic question.
Speaker 4: Wait wait, wait, wait a second, wait times, or at
Speaker 4: least once in regards hold on a second, pot wait
Speaker 4: no no, no, no, no, no, no wait a minute, come, Ed,
Speaker 4: please a little respect here, please.
Speaker 3: So every year.
Speaker 4: Around the president's physical examination, he sees a neurologist. That's
Speaker 4: three times, right, So I am telling you that he
Speaker 4: has seen a neurologists three times while he has been
Speaker 4: in this presidency. That's what I'm saying. I am telling
Speaker 4: you that he has seen them three times. That is
Speaker 4: what I'm sharing with you, right, So every time he
Speaker 4: has a physical he has had to see a neurologists.
Speaker 4: So that is answering that question.
Speaker 3: No, it is, it is you're asking.
Speaker 4: I also said to you, Ed, I also said to you,
Speaker 4: for security reasons, we cannot share names. We cannot share names.
Speaker 3: We have to. We have to. We can't.
Speaker 5: No one came here.
Speaker 4: We cannot share we cannot share names of specialists. Broadly
Speaker 4: from a dermatologist to a neurologists. We cannot share names.
Speaker 4: There are security reasons we have to. We have to product.
Speaker 4: I understand that, I hear you. Anyone to see Ed,
Speaker 4: I hear you. I cannot from here confirm any of
Speaker 4: that because we have to keep their privacy. I think
Speaker 4: they would appreciate that too. We have to give them.
Speaker 4: We have to keep their privacy public. I hear you, guys, Guys, guys,
Speaker 4: hold on a second. There's no reason to get back
Speaker 4: and go back and forth with me in this aggressive way.
Speaker 4: I missed around here about how information has been shared
Speaker 4: with the press for what do you missed about what
Speaker 4: he just asked about? What do you? And then every
Speaker 4: time I come back and I answer the question that you,
Speaker 4: guys as I never answered the question incorrectly. That is
Speaker 4: not true. I was asked about a medical exam. I
Speaker 4: was asked about a physical that was in the line
Speaker 4: of question that I answered, and that is what the
Speaker 4: special hast said. I do want to I just want
Speaker 4: to take a step back for a second, because I
Speaker 4: do take offense to what ED alluded to. You know,
Speaker 4: come out here every day there's a press briefing and
Speaker 4: we do our best to give you the information that
Speaker 4: we have.
Speaker 3: At the time.
Speaker 4: That's what we do, and we understand the freedom of
Speaker 4: the press. We respect the freedom of the press. You
Speaker 4: heard me talk about this last week. I appreciate the
Speaker 4: back and forth that we all have. It is I
Speaker 4: try to respect you, and I hope we try to
Speaker 4: respect me, and we literally do everything that we can.
Speaker 4: My team does everything that we can to make sure
Speaker 4: we get the answers to you. That's what we do.
Speaker 4: And sometimes we disagree, sometimes we are not in agreement,
Speaker 4: but you know what, that's democracy. That is what is
Speaker 4: important to have that healthy back and forth. And so
Speaker 4: to say that I'm holding information or allude to anything
Speaker 4: else is not unfair.
Speaker 3: It is really really unfair.
Speaker 4: I think people who are watching and have been watching
Speaker 4: this briefing for this past week could say that we
Speaker 4: are doing our best in this briefing to provide the
Speaker 4: information that we have. And I will admit I will
Speaker 4: be the first one to admit sometimes I get it wrong.
Speaker 4: At least I admit that. At least I admit that,
Speaker 4: and sometimes I don't have the information and I will
Speaker 4: always always admit that.
Speaker 3: But I do take.
Speaker 4: Offense to what was just happening at the beginning of
Speaker 4: this briefing.
Speaker 3: It's not okay. She takes offense, she takes greefice. She
Speaker 3: is a liar.
Speaker 2: At the previous press briefing, she said the president did
Speaker 2: not have any medical checkup. Biden on a freaking donor call,
Speaker 2: then says, by the way I talked to my doctor,
Speaker 2: report like, hey, hold on a second. You said he
Speaker 2: didn't meet with the doctor. It was a verbal check
Speaker 2: in with his doctor. Really a check in about not
Speaker 2: feeling good. That sounds like a medical checkup, because that's
Speaker 2: the technical definition of the word. Now in this particular case,
Speaker 2: Crystal I said, this is probably one of the most
Speaker 2: bullshit answers in the history of Washington. The reason that
Speaker 2: we know this is, let's put this up there on
Speaker 2: the screen. This Parkinson's expert, whose name was on the
Speaker 2: White House visitors log, was released publicly by the White
Speaker 2: House under the transparency measures that have been put into place,
Speaker 2: I believe by Congress, in which the White House has
Speaker 2: then chooses to abide by. So they publicly released this
Speaker 2: man's name, including who he was meeting with. The press
Speaker 2: Corps then says, let's be very simple here, did this
Speaker 2: man visit the White House in conjunction with the President's help.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: Did he visit as it relates to the President's health,
Speaker 2: That's all we want to know. She says, for security reasons.
Speaker 2: I cannot get into that. So let's be very clear here.
Speaker 2: She says, for security reasons, Crystal, I cannot confirm even
Speaker 2: this gentleman's name, even though the government has admitted that
Speaker 2: this man visited the White House. Yeah, some eight times
Speaker 2: in the last several years. And in addition that his
Speaker 2: name is public, including who he was meeting with. So look,
Speaker 2: if anything, they're not treating her badly enough. They should
Speaker 2: be shouting her down. You are a liar, liar, there's
Speaker 2: no other word for it.
Speaker 1: His name was released in public visitor yet literally over Oh,
Speaker 1: we can't release the name. That would be inappropriate to
Speaker 1: release the name of a specialist. And how dare you right?
Speaker 1: Take offense? And it's not fair, lady, And I love
Speaker 1: how she is, like at least I admit when incorrect. Yeah,
Speaker 1: once you get caught in a brazen lie, you have
Speaker 1: to come out and clean it up. As Ed says.
Speaker 6: There.
Speaker 1: The amazing thing, too, is I watched this entire portion
Speaker 1: of the press briefing with Korean John Ba and it
Speaker 1: just goes on from there. I mean Kelly O'Donnell goes in,
Speaker 1: or other reporters that go in as well, and you
Speaker 1: put it together and it starts to look very ominous
Speaker 1: by the way, the White House is now the White
Speaker 1: House physician has now released a letter supposedly explaining these
Speaker 1: visits eight over just the past number of months from
Speaker 1: a Parkinson's doctor. We'll get to that in a moment,
Speaker 1: But there's good reason why people are asking these questions.
Speaker 1: And it's not just because we've now seen that this
Speaker 1: Parkinson's specialist visited numerous times. We also have President Biden
Speaker 1: exhibiting symptoms that experts say appear to be consistent potentially
Speaker 1: with a Parkinson's diagnosis. Now, you always want to be
Speaker 1: careful here. No one wants to diagnose someone remotely. But
Speaker 1: also he's kind of lost the benefit of the doubt,
Speaker 1: hasn't he. Like it's one thing if it's a private
Speaker 1: person and you're just baselessly speculating about their health. This
Speaker 1: is the President of the United States, him and his
Speaker 1: staff been caught in a cover up of health condition.
Speaker 1: So you do not give the benefit of the doubt
Speaker 1: in this instance. So one article talk to a number
Speaker 1: of experts. Here's what they had to say. Their conclusion was,
Speaker 1: just listen, at the very least, he needs to be
Speaker 1: examined something, an additional neurological exam something, by the way,
Speaker 1: that he has absolutely refused to do. Now in multiple interviews.
Speaker 1: We can put this up on the screen some of
Speaker 1: the details here. So this is from Paul Campo's medical experts.
Speaker 1: Biden needs to be evaluated for Parkinson's, he says. Since then,
Speaker 1: I've spoken to several medical experts who believe the odds
Speaker 1: are high Biden is suffering from some form of Parkinsonism,
Speaker 1: the cluster of degenerative neurological conditions of which Parkinson's disease
Speaker 1: is the best known. None of these experts are, of course,
Speaker 1: reporting to make a formal diagnosis. What they're insisting on
Speaker 1: is that it's deeply irresponsible not to give Biden the
Speaker 1: sort of medical examination that'd be given to any ordinary
Speaker 1: eighty one year old who had the evident symptoms he
Speaker 1: is displaying. We can go on some of the details here.
Speaker 1: I mean, this'll ring true for anyone who watched the
Speaker 1: debate with Biden. According to these experts, Biden has been
Speaker 1: exhibiting various classic symptoms, including a slowed walk, slight lurching,
Speaker 1: a nurse show, and starting a step return. Flat face.
Speaker 1: That's where his face when he has that like mouth agape,
Speaker 1: expressionless thing, that's what they're talking about. There, a staring
Speaker 1: look with diminished blinking same and a low rasped voice,
Speaker 1: all occurring together. The pathologic elements seen fully aligning when
Speaker 1: doctor has treated many Parkinson's cases told me, let's put
Speaker 1: the next piece up on the screen. Kevin kelvin Chu,
Speaker 1: who holds a chair in neurology the University of Michigan
Speaker 1: Medical School, told me he has concerns about the neurologic
Speaker 1: condition of both major candidates and that for President Biden,
Speaker 1: I think Parkinson's disease would be the top concern given
Speaker 1: the clips I've seen. Based on chats with minrologists and
Speaker 1: movement disorder colleagues, they all agree as well. He added,
Speaker 1: So again, it's not like this concern of Parkinson's is
Speaker 1: just random. So when you take the symptoms plus the
Speaker 1: visits plus the White House is totally preposterous, stonewalling and
Speaker 1: pretending like there's some security concern that keeps you from
Speaker 1: even mentioning this person's name. Yeah, you know, if this
Speaker 1: was Donald Trump's White House, you know what conclusion would
Speaker 1: be immediately drawn. Yes, you know what Democrats would be
Speaker 1: saying about this. So for them to pretend like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's nothing to see here and how dare you and
Speaker 1: I take offense that you're even asking these questions is
Speaker 1: so incredibly disgusting to me. Now I mentioned that letter,
Speaker 1: we could put that up on the screen. This is
Speaker 1: from the president's personal physician, who I also want to mention.
Speaker 1: You'll recall under the Trump White House he had Ronnie
Speaker 1: Jackson was his doctor, right, who again was this personal friend?
Speaker 1: Not very credible. Guess what. Kevin O'Connor, the president's physician,
Speaker 1: is a personal friend of the president long time, also
Speaker 1: a business associate of his brother, So keep in mind
Speaker 1: he has a conflict of interest in any case. His
Speaker 1: claim in this letter, which you can read in full
Speaker 1: if you'd like, is effectively that the neurologist slash Parkinson's expert,
Speaker 1: who visited the White House many times, was there to
Speaker 1: treat As a general neurologist, he was there to treat
Speaker 1: other individuals who come to the White House Medical Clinic
Speaker 1: for care, and that he was the neurologist who examined
Speaker 1: President Biden for each of his annual physicals. So I guess, Sager,
Speaker 1: maybe that's what they didn't want to admit, that President
Speaker 1: Biden had seen a Parkinson's specialist. And he goes to
Speaker 1: great Lengthson's letter to say, listen, he's not just about this,
Speaker 1: he's a general neurologist. That's why he saw President Biden,
Speaker 1: et cetera. But this is the cleanup that they're attempting
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 3: This mo the cleanup.
Speaker 2: And by the way, this actually answers the question which
Speaker 2: is the real scandal. Yes, the neurological Parkinson's expert met
Speaker 2: with President Biden. Why did this particular expert come to
Speaker 2: the White House only twenty twenty three onward and not previously?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 3: Something change in that period.
Speaker 2: Where even the okay, I'm not gonna say quack, mister
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connor, who again is a close family friend and
Speaker 2: who at one time explored a deal with Jim Biden,
Speaker 2: the President's brother, Why should I believe a word that
Speaker 2: this man is saying? And look, I was there in
Speaker 2: the briefing room for the whole Ronnie Jackson thing. And
Speaker 2: to be honest, even Ronnie Jackson was more credible because
Speaker 2: he at least was the physician to Barack Obama. Okay,
Speaker 2: so we could say, all right, well, you know, we
Speaker 2: didn't know at the time that he was actually a
Speaker 2: secret Republican all along, and now he's a Republican member.
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is that at the time when I
Speaker 2: was there, you should have seen it.
Speaker 3: I will never forget.
Speaker 2: I came down into the basement afterwards where all the
Speaker 2: reporters are afterwards, and they're like, he's a lion, pos
Speaker 2: like blah blah blah, President's got heart disease. I don't
Speaker 2: trust a man word that this man is saying, where.
Speaker 3: Are you now? April Ryan. By the way, the lady
Speaker 3: who she pressed them yesterday z not in the same
Speaker 3: way that I.
Speaker 1: Remember, was not as aggressive as editor at that time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: And that's why drops to Ed O'Keefe, props to Kelly
Speaker 2: and the rest of them, at least in the front row.
Speaker 3: Zeke Miller as well.
Speaker 2: I've criticized many of these folks, but his very first
Speaker 2: question was, I want to talk about the White House's
Speaker 2: credibility here because you basically lied to us about that
Speaker 2: medical checkup. I think it's at this point where it's
Speaker 2: so undeniable. Even if you want to run cover for him,
Speaker 2: you can't. I mean, we are in a situation which
Speaker 2: is genuinely unprecedented. We're having somebody who is this old
Speaker 2: in the White House and so rapidly deteriorating, who is
Speaker 2: also seeking another four years. And this is why it's
Speaker 2: a terrifying question. Right now today, Crystal, just less than
Speaker 2: a mile from where you and I are speaking, the
Speaker 2: world's NATO leaders are gathered to continue fueling the war
Speaker 2: in Ukraine, where President Biden will be meeting with Zelenski Macrone,
Speaker 2: the new Prime Minister of the UK, to pump forty
Speaker 2: billion dollars more into this conflict and presumably come up
Speaker 2: with some game plan about how we're going to keep
Speaker 2: this thing going on forever. Do you trust a man
Speaker 2: like that today to be in that meeting.
Speaker 3: Five years from now? What are we going to be
Speaker 3: doing five years from now?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: What is the world going to look like? This is
Speaker 2: an urgent national security crisis.
Speaker 3: Now as opposed.
Speaker 1: No, that's that's terrifying. And you know, I think that
Speaker 1: domestic policy basically has handed off to his advisors, like
Speaker 1: I think the you know, puppet master theory when it's
Speaker 1: you know when back when it was run Klaye, Now
Speaker 1: it's Jeffreys Signs whatever. Like, I think they're running the
Speaker 1: show there. Unfortunately, I think Biden is still running the
Speaker 1: show on for it. It's only that he talks about,
Speaker 1: you know, when he gets asked about his case for reelect.
Speaker 1: It's just like NATO, NATO. NATO is the only thing
Speaker 1: that he can think about or talk about. And he
Speaker 1: may mention that he's purportedly trying weekly and meekly and
Speaker 1: pathetically to get a ceasefire in Gaza. His foreign policy
Speaker 1: instincts are stuck in a approximately nineteen seventy five Cold
Speaker 1: War era. He's so weak and feckless. Now it's all
Speaker 1: very clear why BB NANYAHUO has felt free to do
Speaker 1: whatever the hell he wants to do, because what this
Speaker 1: guy is going to stand up to me? Please? Please?
Speaker 1: There was another aspect of this that I'm just so
Speaker 1: sad for the country right now and what we become.
Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about our leaders because some
Speaker 1: I mean you've got the Maga cults right. We've talked
Speaker 1: plenty about that. This cultish behavior on the democratics democrats
Speaker 1: part at the base level is utterly pathetic. So anyone's
Speaker 1: reaction to that press briefing should be like, good, they're
Speaker 1: finally pressuring them, thank god. And this lady just got
Speaker 1: caught in a brazen lie. You know, I thought this
Speaker 1: was supposed to be different from the Trump White House.
Speaker 1: It's not. It's not okay. They should be given no
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. They are just as brazen liars
Speaker 1: as anyone who stood at the podium for Donald Trump was.
Speaker 1: So let's be clear what Choby Bush?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Correct, I mean, let's see it.
Speaker 1: That's the thing you signed up for that job. You
Speaker 1: are signed up to be a paid liar in propagandas
Speaker 1: to spare me or I'm so offended, get out of
Speaker 1: here with that. But the reaction to this that I
Speaker 1: saw so much, at least online, was how dare ed
Speaker 1: ok he owes her an apology? Oh and this morning
Speaker 1: when he posts yesterday or whatever it was that he
Speaker 1: posted the letter that the White House put, where's your apology? Now?
Speaker 1: Isn't it clear that she was in the right and
Speaker 1: you were in the wrong. Are you kidding? Like what country?
Speaker 1: Do you just want this to be a total authoritarian
Speaker 1: nation where no one questions our dear leader. How pathetic
Speaker 1: is that? How pathetic is that? It's so sad. And
Speaker 1: you saw it too, in terms of like the way
Speaker 1: that they just completely crushed any sort of democratic primary process.
Speaker 1: They just went along with that. There were plenty who
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, good, that should be that way. We
Speaker 1: shouldn't have any democracy, all in the service of defeating
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And now that it's clear they're going to
Speaker 1: lose to Donald Trump, they're still like, yeah, but we
Speaker 1: have to fall in line because of loyalty or something.
Speaker 1: We'll be Goldberg in that sentiment as well. It's so
Speaker 1: disgusting and pathetic to me, it's just sad.
Speaker 3: It's just sad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, all I know is that a Parkinson's
Speaker 2: expert is meeting and examining the president of the United
Speaker 2: States that his close family friend is his doctor. And
Speaker 2: I said this on our show yesterday. These people are
Speaker 2: not stupid. You think they're gonna write down, yeah, he's
Speaker 2: got Parkinson's. They know they know that would like Foia,
Speaker 2: never write it down. Oh, that would never happen before, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's almost it would never happen that a president is
Speaker 2: getting injected with literal methamphetamine into his back, and that
Speaker 2: we happened to just.
Speaker 3: Doctor the records. That's never happened before in history.
Speaker 2: Right, It's just like, come on, this is a tried
Speaker 2: and true practice. You put cronies in a position. As
Speaker 2: long as you cover up the records, you can basically
Speaker 2: do whatever we want.
Speaker 3: We didn't even find.
Speaker 2: Out that Obama was cracked out on medafinil until like
Speaker 2: ten years later, which I don't judge. That's fine, you know,
Speaker 2: be my guest whenever you're traveling and you need a
Speaker 2: little bit of a boost. But my point is just
Speaker 2: that it took a decade, you know, to even figure
Speaker 2: out what the prescription pattern under the Obama administration was.
Speaker 3: Look, I hate to say it.
Speaker 2: I hope he's still alive, but he could be long
Speaker 2: dead by the time we even know, you know, whatever
Speaker 2: actually was going on behind the scenes, like with John F. Kennedy,
Speaker 2: like with many of the folks. Just look at his deterioration.
Speaker 2: And this is the world's most stressful job. So all
Speaker 2: I am saying is that it is very terrifying. The
Speaker 2: White House has been caught in a brazen line. The
Speaker 2: fact is is that even after this line of questioning,
Speaker 2: they eventually came out and then just confirmed the worst suspicion,
Speaker 2: which is, yeah, the Parkinson's expert did examine the President,
Speaker 2: and he's examined him multiple times now, and he's meeting
Speaker 2: with the president's personal physician, who himself is covering up
Speaker 2: or at least in a good position to cover up
Speaker 2: for the President if he wants to, and the scrutiny
Speaker 2: is only now starting to kick in. My only wish
Speaker 2: is that it had been many many years before.
Speaker 1: Just ask yourself what these Democrats did be saying if
Speaker 1: it was the same set of facts with Trump, if
Speaker 1: he was exhibiting the symptoms, if he was meeting and
Speaker 1: being tested by Parkinson's expert, if there was an attempt
Speaker 1: to completely stonewall any questions about that. And then it
Speaker 1: was the personal physician, slash Crony who releases the letter
Speaker 1: to try to explain away this damning set of facts.
Speaker 1: And yet as we're about to discuss with you, it
Speaker 1: looks like Democrats are staying the course. It really looks
Speaker 1: at this point, like he's just gonna hang in there
Speaker 1: and grind it down, as Dave Weigel said yesterday, and
Speaker 1: it probably will be kind of like an Access Hollywood
Speaker 1: moment where everybody shuts up, they pretend like they never
Speaker 1: said anything, they never had any concerns, and tries to
Speaker 1: move forward to doom in November is where we're headed.
Speaker 2: The explosion of just sentiment now of watching Biden basically
Speaker 2: evolve in a one week period into Donald Trump become.
Speaker 3: The very thing that he allegedly hates is amazing.
Speaker 2: Yesterday, while we were taping our show, Morning Joe decided
Speaker 2: to go a little bit later, you know, on the air,
Speaker 2: there's some questions apparently they're like, hey, why are they
Speaker 2: here in this hour. They're not usually here, you know,
Speaker 2: at this time. And it turns out that the President
Speaker 2: decided to phone in to his favorite Mooring show, just
Speaker 2: like Donald Trump did over the years whenever he would
Speaker 2: call into Fox and Friends.
Speaker 1: You literally called in the Morning Joe too, and you
Speaker 1: also called the makeupfty.
Speaker 2: Accurately talked about Mika Brazinski's facelift. But whatever Biden has
Speaker 2: called in, he is exhibiting the same behavior of basically
Speaker 2: just ranting and raving at the screen while Mika.
Speaker 3: And Joe try to massage what he's doing.
Speaker 2: But my personal favorite line is when Biden admits straight
Speaker 2: up that he is reading basically off of prepared notes
Speaker 2: while he is on live television.
Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to that.
Speaker 8: The American public is not going to move away from
Speaker 8: me as an average voter. And again, I'm here for
Speaker 8: two readers, pou one to rebuild the economy for hard
Speaker 8: work and middle class people. Give everybody a shot. It's
Speaker 8: a straight shot. Everybody gets a fair chance. Number one,
Speaker 8: number two. Number always talk about how I don't have
Speaker 8: the black support. Come on, give me a great come
Speaker 8: with me. Why why I'm getting so frustrated but by
Speaker 8: the elite. Now I'm not talking about you guys, but
Speaker 8: about the elite in the party who they know so
Speaker 8: much more. But then in these guys, I don't think
Speaker 8: I should run against me, announced the president challenge.
Speaker 9: Man the convention said, well, as long as I did
Speaker 9: the best I could do. That that's the most important thing.
Speaker 9: That's caused Democrats concern who believe that losing is not
Speaker 9: an option. What would you say to those who were
Speaker 9: concerned by that answer.
Speaker 8: It's not an option. And I'm not lost. I haven't lost.
Speaker 8: I beat him last time, I'll beat him this time.
Speaker 8: And this is the guy who, look we talk about debates,
Speaker 8: look at his performance at debates. He lied over you
Speaker 8: know Trump, I was fifty lies. I mean, look, this
Speaker 8: is a guy who says ten percent of the universe
Speaker 8: I want to get into better. He's just a liar.
Speaker 8: And he hadn't done a damn thing since the debate.
Speaker 8: He's been riding around the golf cart for ten days
Speaker 8: with down in mar Lago, talking with his wealthy friends.
Speaker 8: I'm not nobody said anything except me and the post
Speaker 8: out there and the local uh you know races.
Speaker 4: You know, he.
Speaker 8: Said I did nothing to stop Russia the invasion of Ukraine.
Speaker 8: In fact, he said, I think I encouraged Russia from
Speaker 8: going I encouraged I think he encouraged Russia going in.
Speaker 8: I mean, reading from the list of lives. First of all,
Speaker 8: he was made up quote suckers and losers. I was
Speaker 8: with he see Paul the Americans in the cemeteries of
Speaker 8: World War One, suckers and losers. And so this guy's
Speaker 8: going to have to start to answer for what he did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so did everyone catch that little admission I'm reading
Speaker 2: here from a list of lies.
Speaker 3: AKA, he's got notes in front of him.
Speaker 2: By the way, Karine Jean Pierre confirmed that she's like, yes,
Speaker 2: the President had notes in front of him. It's also
Speaker 2: just because I've been in the room for something like that,
Speaker 2: I can literally see in my mind's eye what's happening.
Speaker 2: Biden is sitting there with a speaker phone. Right, he's
Speaker 2: surrounded by aids. We're pointing to little things on his notes,
Speaker 2: shuffling papers in front of him.
Speaker 3: That's what you need to do. What ten minute call.
Speaker 1: In too with the framing Joe as possible, dude, And
Speaker 1: it's also worth asking whether they got the questions and
Speaker 1: advance too.
Speaker 2: Christ There is a camera for MSNBC ten feet from
Speaker 2: the Oval office. He can walk right over there. I'm
Speaker 2: telling you, I've been there. I know right where it is.
Speaker 2: They'll set it up for you. They'll even come into
Speaker 2: the Oval and then boom, you're ready to go live
Speaker 2: on camera. If you really have so much confidence, then
Speaker 2: do it, you know, then do it. And this is
Speaker 2: why because even whenever he's reading from his list of notes,
Speaker 2: he sounds completely incoherent.
Speaker 1: Yea is shocking, That's the thing. And I just, I mean,
Speaker 1: I just have to laugh at this point because I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm taking crazy bills. Yes after this interview,
Speaker 1: the number of Democrats that were like, he sounded so strong,
Speaker 1: it's amazing. Creene Jean Pierre at the podium yesterday. It
Speaker 1: was a powerful performance, Like did you listen to the
Speaker 1: same interview. Okay, he sounded a little more lively than
Speaker 1: the debate because they got him in his good hour
Speaker 1: of the day. He's got aids sitting next to him,
Speaker 1: he's got a list that he's reading off of, and
Speaker 1: he's still wildly incoherent. This is as good as it gets. Guys,
Speaker 1: good luck, good luck. And we played to the clip
Speaker 1: yesterday of what he was like four years ago, when
Speaker 1: there were already questions about his age and ability. The
Speaker 1: decline has been astonishing, and it has shocked international leaders
Speaker 1: who were leaking to the Wall Street Journal. We're going
Speaker 1: to be back in town this week. We'll see what
Speaker 1: they have to say about him. You know, you have
Speaker 1: someone within the White House who leaked to the New
Speaker 1: York Times. They don't think he's up to the job.
Speaker 1: And aging is not a linear process, whether he has
Speaker 1: something like Parkinson's or not. We have seen the decline
Speaker 1: over four years, another four years, you can think of
Speaker 1: an exponential decline over occurring over that time period. It's
Speaker 1: just complete insanity to go forward with this man. But
Speaker 1: you have what he did in this interview. And he
Speaker 1: put on a letter too. I think we may have
Speaker 1: the letter we can put up on the screen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: put the next one up on the screen. House. So
Speaker 1: put on a letter to Congressional Democrats saying, despite all
Speaker 1: the speculation, the pres and else where, I'm firmly committed
Speaker 1: to staying this race, to running this race to the
Speaker 1: end into beating Donald Trump. As many people have said,
Speaker 1: I will not be the first one. He has done
Speaker 1: nothing to actually alleviate the deep concerns and terror of
Speaker 1: a majority, I think a large majority of the Democratic caucus,
Speaker 1: both in the House in the set. He's done nothing
Speaker 1: to alleviate those concerns. But he has been effective in
Speaker 1: making it clear to them that you know, he is
Speaker 1: not going to go out easily, and they have to
Speaker 1: actually come at him and mount some sort of an
Speaker 1: attempted coup to try to get him out of there,
Speaker 1: it's not going to happen. It's basically like a murder
Speaker 1: suicide pack. These are not courageous people. Sorry, I wish
Speaker 1: they were, but they're not. By and large, these are
Speaker 1: a bunch of cowards who really have been exposed as
Speaker 1: they certainly don't care all that much if Donald Trump
Speaker 1: gets reelected. Don't take a word they say seriously from
Speaker 1: here on out about democracies on the ballot, Project twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five or whatever. They clearly don't really care whether
Speaker 1: or not he gets re elected. They're more interested in
Speaker 1: maintaining their own careers, their own good standing in the party.
Speaker 1: And then a bunch of the would be presidential contenders
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, it works not better for me. If
Speaker 1: Biden and Kamala Harris get their asses kicked in November,
Speaker 1: then she's wiped clean off this late and I can
Speaker 1: make my run in twenty twenty eight. Gretchen Whitmer, Gavin Newsome, Rocanna,
Speaker 1: plenty of others out there who were eyeing twenty twenty
Speaker 1: eight and thinking, you know what, for me personally in
Speaker 1: my career, it works sound good if Joe Biden and
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris get their asses kicked this fall, and.
Speaker 2: They're probably right, that's a crazy thing on it for
Speaker 2: their good year devil, they're right, But for the country, well,
Speaker 2: you know, but they ostensibly serve I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: you're just like Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: Little bit of narcissism, right.
Speaker 1: And one of the thing I want to say about this, yea,
Speaker 1: is I think that their political calculus is dead wrong.
Speaker 1: I agree, because if slash, when Biden and Kamala do
Speaker 1: lose this fall in astonishing fashion, or even if let's
Speaker 1: say by some fluke, which I don't say is impossible,
Speaker 1: they get elected and we then have four years of
Speaker 1: watching this astonishing decline and Joe Biden potentially dying in office. Sorry,
Speaker 1: that's the point that we're at. You think this is
Speaker 1: going to reflect well on people who told the line
Speaker 1: for him during this time, No, it's not. You're going
Speaker 1: to look like the people who were pushing us into
Speaker 1: I Rock War. You're going to look like all of
Speaker 1: the people who got things dead wrong in history. That's
Speaker 1: what you're going to look like. And it's not going
Speaker 1: to be good for your career, regardless of whatever little
Speaker 1: clever calculations you think that you're doing right now in
Speaker 1: the moment the people at the courage to come out
Speaker 1: and say this is insane, this is done accepted people
Speaker 1: like Dean Phillips I disagree with on a lot that
Speaker 1: he was dead right on this one. Those are the
Speaker 1: people who are going to look good. They're going to
Speaker 1: be the ones who have their careers bolstered if that's
Speaker 1: the thing you care about, and you are going to
Speaker 1: be embarrassed and humiliated and hopefully drummed down a public life. Yes,
Speaker 1: for standing by this man and subjecting the country to this, I'm.
Speaker 2: Glad you set that up because my prediction is that
Speaker 2: Dean Phillips's run, while quixotic at the time, will go
Speaker 2: down like Barack Obama's two thousand and two Iraq War speech.
Speaker 2: Nobody in two thousand and two gave a shit what
Speaker 2: Barack Obama had to say. In fact, there was only
Speaker 2: one camera that recorded that speech about Barack Obama.
Speaker 3: But when two thousand and eight rolled around, what happened?
Speaker 2: Crystal, you were there, You remember that was the reason
Speaker 2: he became the nominees because he used it against Hillary
Speaker 2: and against the failed candidacy of John Kimmerbilick.
Speaker 3: See this whole flip flop policy and all that stuff
Speaker 3: in the past.
Speaker 2: It served us badly. I was there from the very beginning.
Speaker 2: I can tell you that that was the number one
Speaker 2: reason that he beat Hillary Clinton in that primary. I believe,
Speaker 2: and I'll put the marker out here. I think Dean
Speaker 2: is going to be the front runner in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: eight that reason.
Speaker 3: I think it was a smart play. It will go.
Speaker 3: Look also, he's filthy rich.
Speaker 2: It's never hurt before, right, So you can run those
Speaker 2: ads as much as you want. Luckily for him, it
Speaker 2: happened in the Internet age. He's got plenty of things
Speaker 2: that are out there that he can point to. Julian Castro,
Speaker 2: he could try as well.
Speaker 3: Be like Steve I.
Speaker 1: Tried to tell you he was the canary and the
Speaker 1: gold line.
Speaker 3: And the thing is Democrats want to win, they know.
Speaker 2: And so when Biden and the rest of the elites
Speaker 2: who stayed silent or who were complicit, Bernie Sanders, AOC,
Speaker 2: Johann Omar, all of these people have now come out
Speaker 2: and publicly back to Biden. Why should anyone take you seriously?
Speaker 2: Gavin s Wretchen, Yeah, bro, I mean all of these folks. So,
Speaker 2: like you said, the time for courage is now, because otherwise,
Speaker 2: if you really want to set yourself up, then I
Speaker 2: think it's a big mistake. So Dean, I'm on the
Speaker 2: Dean twenty twenty eight train. I'm not saying I like
Speaker 2: or with him or whatever. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 3: Listen what he'll do.
Speaker 1: He took a stance that was genuinely courageous.
Speaker 3: Yes, and he was.
Speaker 1: Remember how they were leaving all that and they were kicked.
Speaker 1: They were leaking all that nasty stuff about him to Axios,
Speaker 1: remember that report. He took a real short term hit
Speaker 1: because he truly there's no other explanation for it. Then
Speaker 1: he truly believed. He was like, this man is too
Speaker 1: old and he's declined, is too advanced. This is not
Speaker 1: going to work out well. Put himself out there. He
Speaker 1: took it political hit, and he deserves a lot of
Speaker 1: credit for that, even though I also, I mean, you
Speaker 1: guys know, I've debated him. I disagree with him and
Speaker 1: a lot of things, especially Israel, but he deserves credit
Speaker 1: for that courage. Today I mentioned this at the top.
Speaker 1: It is a pivotal day. You have the House and
Speaker 1: the Senate back in town. They've been away. They're all
Speaker 1: back now. Both the House and the Senate Democratic caucuses
Speaker 1: are meeting today, and uh so we'll see if the
Speaker 1: damn holds or the damn breaks. I have to tell
Speaker 1: you where we stand this morning. It looks very much
Speaker 1: like the dam was holding. President Biden met with the
Speaker 1: Congressional Black Caucus. I mean, that's the other thing I'm
Speaker 1: only picked up on this yesterday is they've tried to
Speaker 1: really racialize this and make it like, oh, well, black
Speaker 1: people want President Biden, and it's just these white elites
Speaker 1: that want him gone, which, let's just be clear, majority
Speaker 1: of black voters even before the debate, thought that he
Speaker 1: was too old to serve. So don't buy that nonsense.
Speaker 1: Definitely don't buy the Legoh, it's just the elites that
Speaker 1: want him out. There are some elites that want him out.
Speaker 1: We had one of them on the show yesterday, Abigail Disney.
Speaker 1: But the truth of the matter is, which ironically f
Speaker 1: Jake Tapper pointed out yesterday, the elites are finally catching
Speaker 1: up to where the voting public has long been. Even
Speaker 1: before the debate, you had some seventy percent of Americans
Speaker 1: who said this man was too old to serve. So
Speaker 1: you finally have the elites forced to admit what has
Speaker 1: been obvious to most of the country all the way along.
Speaker 1: But I digress to go back to the original point.
Speaker 1: You know, I think Democrats have become too scared to
Speaker 1: mount any sort of real opposition him. It looks really
Speaker 1: like you had a bunch of people come on yesterday're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I have concerns, he's got to prove himself, but not
Speaker 1: taking a firm position. You add many more like AOC
Speaker 1: like ilhan Omer and others who came out and said
Speaker 1: I'm with him. He's the guy. We're sticking by him.
Speaker 1: Hakeem Jeffries. This was also very important, saying I've always
Speaker 1: been with Joe, I'm still with Joe, and so I
Speaker 1: think he's probably managed to get through this moment. We'll
Speaker 1: see how his big boy press conference goes. Is they
Speaker 1: were discussing it, Yes, they're both. John Kirby and Koreeen
Speaker 1: jump here called his press conference Thursday a quote big
Speaker 1: boy press conference, which is so humiliated. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what to say about it. But there I do
Speaker 1: think that there is an access Hollywood parallel here, which
Speaker 1: is sager. I wonder what you make of this. The
Speaker 1: assumption has been that now that the press corps and
Speaker 1: Democrats have said these things, they can't be unsaid that
Speaker 1: now every interaction is going to be put under a
Speaker 1: micro scope. You could have another bad performance for Biden
Speaker 1: where there's another round of freakouts and defecting, et cetera.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that that's the case, because I think
Speaker 1: it's more like after Trump survived Access Hollywood, then people
Speaker 1: on the Republican side kept their mouths shut more.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: They realize, all right, well he got through it last time,
Speaker 1: so I guess he's going to get through it again,
Speaker 1: and they just fell in line. I think, at least
Speaker 1: for Democrats and probably for the media as well, that's
Speaker 1: more likely. The direction we go in is that they
Speaker 1: the further away from the debate we get, the more
Speaker 1: they forget how bad it was, the more they pretend
Speaker 1: they never said the things that they said, and they
Speaker 1: just pushed forward with the plan, because.
Speaker 2: Look, it's a gamble, the gambling. Ever, by the way,
Speaker 2: the Access Hollywood won, I'll I'm not going to defend it,
Speaker 2: but I'll just say the Republican elites at that time
Speaker 2: they thought they were going down to a historic loss.
Speaker 2: So what do you do. You try and preempt it,
Speaker 2: and you call it I ended up being the bad gamble,
Speaker 2: and it was definitely wrong in terms of their own
Speaker 2: political futures. That said, if you were right and Trump
Speaker 2: did go down to historic loss, they would all look
Speaker 2: like geniuses, wouldn't they, and they would use that as ammunition.
Speaker 2: Now the lesson, I think for a lot the thing
Speaker 2: is too is And this is where I wonder what
Speaker 2: you think. I don't think the Democratic elites are playing
Speaker 2: that calculus.
Speaker 3: I think they're just cowards.
Speaker 2: Mark Warner was like, he's organizing a meeting behind the scenes,
Speaker 2: and then Biden is like, oh, he's a good man.
Speaker 2: It leaks, he cancels the meeting. You're just a coward, dude.
Speaker 2: That's not calculus. You're just scared. Jakeem jeffries behind the scenes,
Speaker 2: organizing calls, blah blah blah. Last night he comes out
Speaker 2: and he says, I support the president. Even Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 2: He comes out and yesterday and he goes, I support you,
Speaker 2: I'm backing Joe, Yeah, something like that. These are not
Speaker 2: full throated endorsements. It's just the act of cowardice, of
Speaker 2: the path dependence and the recognition that, look, we don't
Speaker 2: have a choice because Biden is gonna not gonna drop out.
Speaker 3: He's basically staying in.
Speaker 2: By the way, can we put a seven please up
Speaker 2: on the screen, because this just shows you too how
Speaker 2: full of it Joe Biden is on that call. When
Speaker 2: he or on the MSNBC interview, he blasted democratic elites.
Speaker 2: The very next thing he did is he called a
Speaker 2: bunch of donors and took questions.
Speaker 3: So keep that in mind.
Speaker 2: Joe Biden has now taken more questions from donors and
Speaker 2: people donating big money than the US Press Corps and
Speaker 2: who have had to wait. Now what, So Thursday will
Speaker 2: be the first time that we finally get to ask
Speaker 2: questions of the president in a public setting, allegedly solo.
Speaker 2: By the way, stay tuned for this. I believe it
Speaker 2: will be straight up rigged. And what I mean by
Speaker 2: that is that, as I understand it, the credentials have
Speaker 2: already been issued for the press conference very early. That
Speaker 2: usually doesn't happen. You usually do credentials like a day
Speaker 2: or two before something like that. From the inside, just
Speaker 2: what I can offer. That also means that the White
Speaker 2: House can restrict any yahoos like yours, truly from being
Speaker 2: able to sign up if they don't want to, and
Speaker 2: then they can pre screen and talk to every single
Speaker 2: person who's going to ask a question and say Okay,
Speaker 2: you're up. President Biden will then have a list of
Speaker 2: those people, people like CBS News, at O'Keefe, AP Reuters.
Speaker 3: I'm going to give them that.
Speaker 2: I will give them the benefit of the doubt and
Speaker 2: hope and assume that those people, because the moment is
Speaker 2: so extraordinary, they're going to override their previous biases and
Speaker 2: they're going to ask him tough questions. But the idea
Speaker 2: of the free flowing presser, the way that Trump was,
Speaker 2: where genuinely anybody who had their hands up might have
Speaker 2: gotten called on, that's over and I think that Biden
Speaker 2: it's going to be very tightly controlled.
Speaker 8: Sure.
Speaker 2: And the other thing is is that you know how
Speaker 2: long is it going to be? President Eisenhower used to
Speaker 2: do two hour press conferences routinely. I mean thirty minutes,
Speaker 2: forty five minutes. Do you know Biden he can filibuster.
Speaker 2: Let's say you take four questions and you take ten
Speaker 2: minutes to answer every single one. That's a big boy
Speaker 2: press conference, right, So there's many different ways that we
Speaker 2: can rig this thing, you know. And I've seen it
Speaker 2: all happen before. I saw the Trump people try and
Speaker 2: do it. But under Biden, I'm watching this very closely
Speaker 2: and I'm keeping my ear to the ground about what's
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 1: Well, and there's a reason why the Big Boy Press
Speaker 1: conference isn't happening till Thursday. Yeah, right, tick tick tick.
Speaker 1: And the meanwhile, they've you know, kind of outflanked some
Speaker 1: of the detractors. They got the Congressional Black Caucus fully
Speaker 1: behind them, They've got Jim Kleiburn, and they've gotvered standers,
Speaker 1: and they've got AOC, and they've really they've really made
Speaker 1: a push to scare people, not to convince them that
Speaker 1: Biden is up to the task, no one really believes that,
Speaker 1: but to scare them with regards to their own careers
Speaker 1: of what the consequences would be for coming out. I
Speaker 1: think it's by and large working. I mean, you still have,
Speaker 1: like I said, you still have people coming out. You
Speaker 1: had a Congressman Adam Smith go public yesterday saying that
Speaker 1: he doesn't think Biden's the right person. You had you
Speaker 1: had Sharon Brown in Ohio expressing a lot of concerns,
Speaker 1: and Cloba Shark expressing a lot of concerns, but not
Speaker 1: going so far as to say that he needs to
Speaker 1: step aside. But I do think that their plan is
Speaker 1: basically working. And so by the time you get to
Speaker 1: Thursday of this week, you will have had even more
Speaker 1: Democrats close ranks. And so even if it is a catastrophe,
Speaker 1: which even with it pre screen rigged whatever God knows,
Speaker 1: that could still be a total complete catastrophe, it may
Speaker 1: be too late at that.
Speaker 2: Here's another easy way to rig it, because the press
Speaker 2: conference is on the heels of the NATO summit, which
Speaker 2: is happening here in Washington. So what do you do.
Speaker 2: You come up there, Let's say you make a big
Speaker 2: announcement on Ukraine. Well, now you're kind of an idiot
Speaker 2: if you don't also ask about what's going on with Ukraine. Right,
Speaker 2: So now we take some of our press conference and
Speaker 2: we just let the policy override. Let's say fifteen out
Speaker 2: of the one hour. Well, now we just took one
Speaker 2: fourth of the entire time. And here's another trick that
Speaker 2: I've seen them play before. It's called the two and two.
Speaker 2: So what he'll do is maybe he's calling it solo.
Speaker 2: We'll see, maybe he pulls in Emmanuel Macron. Now, oh,
Speaker 2: the French reporters get to ask some questions. You think
Speaker 2: the French care about what's going on with Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: They're gonna ask Macron about whatever is going on in
Speaker 2: the parliament. And so Biden sits there and then the
Speaker 2: last Biden some stupid question which the foreign press usually does,
Speaker 2: be like do you still support France? And He's like, yes,
Speaker 2: France is our easy Now I got another question box
Speaker 2: that's checked. So there's all these different ways that were
Speaker 2: watching for and the more that you delay. Now you've
Speaker 2: got Hakim on the record, you got Chuck Schumer on
Speaker 2: the record. Imagine if he had gone on the record
Speaker 2: the day after that debate and it was a disaster, Well,
Speaker 2: then Hakeem Jeffreys and Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 3: Are in a much more untenable position.
Speaker 2: So I think he's going to write it out and
Speaker 2: I mean, this is just craziness, it's just straight it's
Speaker 2: absolute insanity.
Speaker 3: What's happening. I still cannot believe he's actually running for
Speaker 3: another term. It's just shocking.
Speaker 1: It is utter madness, and we are all here to
Speaker 1: witness it.
Speaker 2: At the same time, as we take a little bit
Speaker 2: more of a look at the media, we wonder why
Speaker 2: is Biden clinging to power? Who out there could credibly
Speaker 2: continue to support him? Well, Whoopy Goldberg, some of the
Speaker 2: other women at the view are showing just how much
Speaker 2: that mindset still pervades quite a bit of the elite commentariat.
Speaker 2: Here's Whoopy saying she would still support Biden even if
Speaker 2: he pooped his own pants.
Speaker 3: Let's take a lesson.
Speaker 7: I don't care if he's pooped his pants. I don't
Speaker 7: care if he can't put a sentence together. Show me
Speaker 7: he can't do the job, and then I'll say, Okay,
Speaker 7: maybe it's time to go now. He had a bad
Speaker 7: night the first time that he went out and debated
Speaker 7: with Kamila Harris, and everybody wanted him to quit that
Speaker 7: and say you can't talk to women like this, or
Speaker 7: you're doing this wrong, you're doing that wrong. He came
Speaker 7: back said, you know what, I got it and gave
Speaker 7: four years. So, yeah, I have poopy days all the time.
Speaker 7: I step in so much pool you can't even imagine. Now,
Speaker 7: I'm not running the world, but I don't know anybody
Speaker 7: who doesn't step in stuff at some point. So I'm
Speaker 7: just simply saying, there are two debates, and if he
Speaker 7: can't do what he needs to do for the second debate,
Speaker 7: I'll join any crew that says get rid of him,
Speaker 7: but loyalty to me. If you are doing the job.
Speaker 7: I might not like everything you're doing. I don't like
Speaker 7: it all, but I'm gonna stand behind you. Let those
Speaker 7: guys stand behind the guy who should have been the
Speaker 7: person people were talking about saying, yeah, Biden had a
Speaker 7: bad day, but this guy couldn't tell the truth if
Speaker 7: it's split his lip.
Speaker 10: Joe Biden is the first one that says I'm slower.
Speaker 10: I don't debate as well as I do I did,
Speaker 10: I'm eighty one years old. It seems worse than that, okay,
Speaker 10: But he's the first one to say he's not the same.
Speaker 10: Just look at my record of a.
Speaker 5: Polomst litigate the case against Trump the way that we
Speaker 5: saw the vice president.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: That is the difference.
Speaker 5: And there's a reason Donald Trump is actually not out
Speaker 5: there shouting about the debate.
Speaker 1: He knows that Joe Biden will lose to him. He
Speaker 1: is afraid Advice President Harrett.
Speaker 7: Here's the actual also real truth. You know, it doesn't
Speaker 7: matter what we say should be happening. It's going to
Speaker 7: come down to one or the other.
Speaker 3: Right, various student analysis.
Speaker 2: There At the end, Anna Navarro saying, well, he's the
Speaker 2: first to say that he doesn't do well. But look,
Speaker 2: that is the perfect example of the whole like Biden,
Speaker 2: like the same ladies who are accusing people of being
Speaker 2: in a cult. That's what being in a cult looks like.
Speaker 2: I believe in loyalty. I would vote for him. I
Speaker 2: don't care if he pooped his pants. You also shouted
Speaker 2: this out. They're like, I'll look for the next debate.
Speaker 2: The next debate in September. It's after the DNC.
Speaker 3: There's nothing you can do at that time.
Speaker 1: It's it's before the election. Body knows, yeah, of course
Speaker 1: she knows.
Speaker 3: Yeah, run off the clock.
Speaker 1: Yeah. She actually even directly makes the comparison. She says,
Speaker 1: I need to have loyalty the way that the other
Speaker 1: side has loyalty to Trump. She actually directly says that
Speaker 1: if you listen to what she's talking about, like the
Speaker 1: other guy they should have should have been talking about,
Speaker 1: we need to have that same kind of loyalty. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that where that's where you are, and listen. I don't
Speaker 1: share this analysis, but I can respect someone who says, listen,
Speaker 1: if it is Trump and Biden, I think Biden is
Speaker 1: the lesser of evil of the two. I support more
Speaker 1: the direction of the demoocratic Party. I'm voting for the
Speaker 1: entire administration, and these are terrible choices, but I got
Speaker 1: to do what I gotta do. Okay, I think that's
Speaker 1: a reasonable argument to make. But to pretend like, first
Speaker 1: of all, there's no other options available right now, to
Speaker 1: pretend like your priority is beating Donald Trump, but you're
Speaker 1: sticking with Joe Biden, To pretend like you don't have
Speaker 1: any credible doubts right now that he can't do the
Speaker 1: job today, as WHOOPI Goldberg says, and to set the
Speaker 1: bar at even if he poops his pants. I don't care,
Speaker 1: Like it's just an incredible commentary of where we are
Speaker 1: as a nation right now, what a sad, declining, dying empire,
Speaker 1: that the standard we have for our presidents is like,
Speaker 1: you could even poop your pants and I don't care.
Speaker 1: This is still what we're going to do or we're
Speaker 1: going to fall in line. We're gonna have loyalty, because
Speaker 1: that's what matters, loyalty to this man who thinks he's
Speaker 1: some like God king over commit to what might be
Speaker 1: best for the country according to your values. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just sad, okay, Alissa Fair actually that's
Speaker 1: her name, right, He's aware actually speaking some truth there
Speaker 1: too about how Trump has been pretty quiet because he
Speaker 1: doesn't want Biden to drop out of the raten This
Speaker 1: is working out perfect for him, for him to be
Speaker 1: hobbled and pathetic and unable to even barely hobble around
Speaker 1: the country to campaign, but still hanging in there strong
Speaker 1: based on his ego and his crackhead son. This is
Speaker 1: perfect for Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, if we continued, you know, down this road,
Speaker 2: this idea of loyalty and all of that, it's for
Speaker 2: what reason Biden is in a worse position for a
Speaker 2: Democrat since two thousand.
Speaker 3: George W. Bush is the last person beating Democrats this
Speaker 3: badly in the polls. And that's not me.
Speaker 2: That's CNN's Harry Enton, who fact checks Biden's interview and
Speaker 2: statements where he's like, actually, I'm in a better pasoling
Speaker 2: position than ever before. Don't believe the polls, my internals
Speaker 2: show something different.
Speaker 5: Take a listen right now, Donald Trump believe it's in
Speaker 5: an act of national polls by about three percentage points.
Speaker 5: If you go back four years ago, at this point,
Speaker 5: Joe Biden was ahead by nine points. This right now
Speaker 5: don't look anything like what we saw four years ago.
Speaker 5: At this point, I then decided to take it a
Speaker 5: step further. What was Biden's worst twenty twenty polling position.
Speaker 5: He was ahead by four points, which basically matched what
Speaker 5: he ended up beating Donald Trump by in the national
Speaker 5: popular vote. So this three point advantage for Donald Trump
Speaker 5: is Donald Trump's best position versus Joe Biden, whether you
Speaker 5: include the polls this year or you include the polls
Speaker 5: last cycle. The idea that the polls underestimated Joe Biden
Speaker 5: last time around, simply put, does not hold any water.
Speaker 5: Mister Burnam, who outperformed their July national polls. This is
Speaker 5: major elections during the Trump era. We can start in
Speaker 5: the midterms right. Take a look here. This is a
Speaker 5: twenty twenty two midterm. This is a generic congressional ballot.
Speaker 5: In fact, Republicans were underestimated by a point. They outperformed
Speaker 5: their July polls and the actual result by a percent points.
Speaker 5: You go back to twenty eighteen, Democrats did outperform their polls,
Speaker 5: but just by point. Basically, the polls were right on
Speaker 5: at this particular point in the midterm elections. We talk
Speaker 5: about the presidential race last time around, Donald Trump actually
Speaker 5: did better in the results than his July polls by
Speaker 5: five points. You go back to twenty sixteen, you see
Speaker 5: something very similar. That is, the July polls actually underestimated
Speaker 5: Donald Trump. He outperformed his July polls. So the idea
Speaker 5: in the Trump era that the polls have underestimated Democrats,
Speaker 5: whether it be in a Joe Biden matchup, whether it
Speaker 5: be a matchup against Hillary Clinton, whether it be in
Speaker 5: the mid trumps, at least in the national polling that
Speaker 5: right now shows Donald Trump in his strongest position, simply put,
Speaker 5: is not true. If anything, the polls have underestimated Republicans
Speaker 5: during the Trump era, especially in the presidential races in
Speaker 5: twenty sixteen and in twenty trump on.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's just take that very clearly, you know,
Speaker 2: and this crystal, this is what the rational look. There
Speaker 2: are a few what let's say, like five maybe six
Speaker 2: House Democrats who've actually come out and call for him
Speaker 2: to step down. What I find amazing is it's not
Speaker 2: not ilhan Omar, aoc Rokana, any squad people who have
Speaker 2: legitimate policy beefs. It's like normy Democrats from like Minnesota
Speaker 2: or Washington, and.
Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, they're like, I just want to win.
Speaker 2: I like Biden, but I don't think he's very He's
Speaker 2: well poised to win. Why are they more rational and
Speaker 2: courageous frankly being able to look at this political.
Speaker 3: Case than illan Omar, Like what is happening here?
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, here's my best attempt at explain it.
Speaker 1: Number One, if you're a centrist, you have less fear
Speaker 1: of being like excised from the party because there isn't
Speaker 1: this like ideological war on you. So there is that,
Speaker 1: But they still deserve credit, you know, the anti Craigs
Speaker 1: of the world, Adams Becif. But they still deserve credit
Speaker 1: for coming out because it still does obviously take some
Speaker 1: courage to do, especially at this stage. I think there's
Speaker 1: some like forty chess thought going on with the Bernie's
Speaker 1: and the aocs and whatever of like, well, we don't
Speaker 1: want to be the ones because they really hate us
Speaker 1: and distrust us. We don't want to make this ideological.
Speaker 1: And I also think that there's a careerist move of like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, if he does drop out, it's not like
Speaker 1: we're going to get a candidate that is ideologically aligned
Speaker 1: with us. We're gonna ge Kamala Harris, who we also
Speaker 1: you know, don't really care for. So maybe it's better
Speaker 1: we just let Trump win and then, you know, try
Speaker 1: to get behind a more lefty candidate in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1: But I think it's sad. I think it's pathetic. I
Speaker 1: think it lacks total courage and integrity. And here's the
Speaker 1: other thing. It's like you don't have to say anything
Speaker 1: right to come out affirmatively like AOC did, like ilhan
Speaker 1: Omar did. Bernie Sanders has been Joe Biden's like biggest defender.
Speaker 1: I think with him it also comes down he's always
Speaker 1: personally liked Joe. He's got this soft spot for him.
Speaker 1: He couldn't attack him in the primary in twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: so I think that's part of it for him, Like
Speaker 1: Joe was nice to him back in his early days
Speaker 1: in the Senate or whatever that I don't know, but
Speaker 1: it's pathetic. It's utterly pathetic that these are the people
Speaker 1: are supposed to be, you know, the opposition, the adversarial
Speaker 1: faction within the Democratic Party, and they turn out to
Speaker 1: be the greatest boot liquors. Amazing and amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look at the rhetoric of Adam Smith.
Speaker 2: Adam this is a normal guy. He's from Washington, he's
Speaker 2: been Congress for a long time. He's a high ranking Democrat.
Speaker 2: It's a freaking Financial Services Committee. People in DC know
Speaker 2: who the hell he is. Listen to the way he
Speaker 2: articulates the case against Biden. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 6: Well, look, I think he should step aside. I think
Speaker 6: it's become clear that he's not the best person to
Speaker 6: carry the Democratic message. And here's the thing. We have
Speaker 6: an incredibly strong message and record to run on, and all,
Speaker 6: you know, respect to the president, he's done a great job.
Speaker 6: The President has shown he is not capable of delivering
Speaker 6: that message. Is it an effective way?
Speaker 5: Just because I shouldn't say, just because that ninety minute
Speaker 5: debate was a lot, but is this based entirely on
Speaker 5: that event?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 6: No, what there was concerns leading up to it in
Speaker 6: the terms of the president's ability to deliver a message,
Speaker 6: and it hasn't gotten better since the debate.
Speaker 2: That's it, super basic, right, Yeah, we respect you. You know,
Speaker 2: it's like what abagail do?
Speaker 3: Isn't he?
Speaker 2: We thank you for all the work you've done. We're
Speaker 2: moving on. You can't do the job. Yeah, this is
Speaker 2: basic stuff. And you know, I don't even think he's
Speaker 2: articulated it in a particularly offensive way. He's not like, oh,
Speaker 2: we can't even walk or any of the stuff. He's like, look,
Speaker 2: you can't do it. He showed us that there were
Speaker 2: some concerns. We have a good record. Let's go in
Speaker 2: a different direction. Yeah, why is it so hard?
Speaker 1: I am kind of sick of all the whole Biden
Speaker 1: is so amazing. It's yeah, it's so incredible. It's like,
Speaker 1: why don't you ask the people in Gazo we're about
Speaker 1: to talk about there could be as many as two
Speaker 1: hundred thousand people who have been killed there, like ten
Speaker 1: percent of the population. How nice of a guy Joe
Speaker 1: Biden is. But put that aside for a moment. The
Speaker 1: people who are coming out, I think you have to
Speaker 1: conclude our people who number one are potentially more politically
Speaker 1: savvy and see where the ball is ultimately going to bounce.
Speaker 1: And like I was saying before, how it's not going
Speaker 1: to reflect well on anyone that you know who stood
Speaker 1: up for Biden in this moment and who tried to
Speaker 1: cover for him in this moment, tried to deny reality
Speaker 1: that was in front of all of our faces. It's
Speaker 1: not going to work out well for them. So that's
Speaker 1: number one. But number two, I think the there are
Speaker 1: probably people who really believe the rhetoric about democracies on
Speaker 1: the ballot and this could be the last election and
Speaker 1: it's all on the line and Project twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: and like we have to put everything aside and really
Speaker 1: marshal our resources and put forward our best case to
Speaker 1: try to defeat that man. If you if you really
Speaker 1: believe that, you would be behaving the way Congressman Smith
Speaker 1: and Angie Craig, and I think Quigley was another of these,
Speaker 1: you know other congress people who have come out and said,
Speaker 1: like he has to step aside. If you really believe that,
Speaker 1: it's very clear that that's the posture that you would take.
Speaker 1: So for these other people who are running cover for him,
Speaker 1: like don't don't come to me, in the future, pretending
Speaker 1: like this is an existential election. You clearly don't believe that.
Speaker 1: You don't believe that, so you know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to hear it in the future about what a danger
Speaker 1: Trump is or what a fascist he is, what a
Speaker 1: threat to the republic, because you do not believe that
Speaker 1: you have been exposed in this moment as utterly full
Speaker 1: of shit when it comes to any credibility on the
Speaker 1: question of what a threat Donald Trump is.
Speaker 3: Absolutely