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Speaker 1: now this morning. Today is perhaps the critical day for

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Speaker 2: as Crystal said, there was absolute chaos that erupted in

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Speaker 2: Kaareane Jean Pierre. Why did this Parkinson's expert visit the

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Speaker 3: Here is what happened in that.

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Speaker 4: Exchange that he gets every year that we provide to all.

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Speaker 4: Around the president's physical examination, he sees a neurologist. That's

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Speaker 2: there's some questions apparently they're like, hey, why are they

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Speaker 2: here in this hour. They're not usually here, you know,

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Speaker 2: at this time. And it turns out that the President

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Speaker 2: decided to phone in to his favorite Mooring show, just

439
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Speaker 2: like Donald Trump did over the years whenever he would

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Speaker 2: call into Fox and Friends.

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Speaker 1: You literally called in the Morning Joe too, and you

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Speaker 1: also called the makeupfty.

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Speaker 2: Accurately talked about Mika Brazinski's facelift. But whatever Biden has

444
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Speaker 2: called in, he is exhibiting the same behavior of basically

445
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 2: just ranting and raving at the screen while Mika.

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Speaker 3: And Joe try to massage what he's doing.

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Speaker 2: But my personal favorite line is when Biden admits straight

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Speaker 2: up that he is reading basically off of prepared notes

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Speaker 2: while he is on live television.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to that.

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Speaker 8: The American public is not going to move away from

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Speaker 8: me as an average voter. And again, I'm here for

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Speaker 8: two readers, pou one to rebuild the economy for hard

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Speaker 8: work and middle class people. Give everybody a shot. It's

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Speaker 8: a straight shot. Everybody gets a fair chance. Number one,

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Speaker 8: number two. Number always talk about how I don't have

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Speaker 8: the black support. Come on, give me a great come

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Speaker 8: with me. Why why I'm getting so frustrated but by

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Speaker 8: the elite. Now I'm not talking about you guys, but

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00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 8: about the elite in the party who they know so

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00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 8: much more. But then in these guys, I don't think

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Speaker 8: I should run against me, announced the president challenge.

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Speaker 9: Man the convention said, well, as long as I did

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Speaker 9: the best I could do. That that's the most important thing.

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Speaker 9: That's caused Democrats concern who believe that losing is not

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Speaker 9: an option. What would you say to those who were

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Speaker 9: concerned by that answer.

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Speaker 8: It's not an option. And I'm not lost. I haven't lost.

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Speaker 8: I beat him last time, I'll beat him this time.

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Speaker 8: And this is the guy who, look we talk about debates,

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Speaker 8: look at his performance at debates. He lied over you

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Speaker 8: know Trump, I was fifty lies. I mean, look, this

473
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Speaker 8: is a guy who says ten percent of the universe

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Speaker 8: I want to get into better. He's just a liar.

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Speaker 8: And he hadn't done a damn thing since the debate.

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Speaker 8: He's been riding around the golf cart for ten days

477
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Speaker 8: with down in mar Lago, talking with his wealthy friends.

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Speaker 8: I'm not nobody said anything except me and the post

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Speaker 8: out there and the local uh you know races.

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Speaker 4: You know, he.

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Speaker 8: Said I did nothing to stop Russia the invasion of Ukraine.

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Speaker 8: In fact, he said, I think I encouraged Russia from

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Speaker 8: going I encouraged I think he encouraged Russia going in.

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Speaker 8: I mean, reading from the list of lives. First of all,

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Speaker 8: he was made up quote suckers and losers. I was

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Speaker 8: with he see Paul the Americans in the cemeteries of

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Speaker 8: World War One, suckers and losers. And so this guy's

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Speaker 8: going to have to start to answer for what he did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so did everyone catch that little admission I'm reading

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Speaker 2: here from a list of lies.

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Speaker 3: AKA, he's got notes in front of him.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Karine Jean Pierre confirmed that she's like, yes,

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Speaker 2: the President had notes in front of him. It's also

494
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Speaker 2: just because I've been in the room for something like that,

495
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Speaker 2: I can literally see in my mind's eye what's happening.

496
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Speaker 2: Biden is sitting there with a speaker phone. Right, he's

497
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Speaker 2: surrounded by aids. We're pointing to little things on his notes,

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Speaker 2: shuffling papers in front of him.

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Speaker 3: That's what you need to do. What ten minute call.

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Speaker 1: In too with the framing Joe as possible, dude, And

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Speaker 1: it's also worth asking whether they got the questions and

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Speaker 1: advance too.

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Speaker 2: Christ There is a camera for MSNBC ten feet from

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Speaker 2: the Oval office. He can walk right over there. I'm

505
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Speaker 2: telling you, I've been there. I know right where it is.

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Speaker 2: They'll set it up for you. They'll even come into

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Speaker 2: the Oval and then boom, you're ready to go live

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Speaker 2: on camera. If you really have so much confidence, then

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Speaker 2: do it, you know, then do it. And this is

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Speaker 2: why because even whenever he's reading from his list of notes,

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Speaker 2: he sounds completely incoherent.

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Speaker 1: Yea is shocking, That's the thing. And I just, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just have to laugh at this point because I

514
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Speaker 1: feel like I'm taking crazy bills. Yes after this interview,

515
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Speaker 1: the number of Democrats that were like, he sounded so strong,

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Speaker 1: it's amazing. Creene Jean Pierre at the podium yesterday. It

517
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Speaker 1: was a powerful performance, Like did you listen to the

518
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Speaker 1: same interview. Okay, he sounded a little more lively than

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Speaker 1: the debate because they got him in his good hour

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Speaker 1: of the day. He's got aids sitting next to him,

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Speaker 1: he's got a list that he's reading off of, and

522
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Speaker 1: he's still wildly incoherent. This is as good as it gets. Guys,

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Speaker 1: good luck, good luck. And we played to the clip

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Speaker 1: yesterday of what he was like four years ago, when

525
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Speaker 1: there were already questions about his age and ability. The

526
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Speaker 1: decline has been astonishing, and it has shocked international leaders

527
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Speaker 1: who were leaking to the Wall Street Journal. We're going

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Speaker 1: to be back in town this week. We'll see what

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Speaker 1: they have to say about him. You know, you have

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Speaker 1: someone within the White House who leaked to the New

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Speaker 1: York Times. They don't think he's up to the job.

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Speaker 1: And aging is not a linear process, whether he has

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Speaker 1: something like Parkinson's or not. We have seen the decline

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Speaker 1: over four years, another four years, you can think of

535
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: an exponential decline over occurring over that time period. It's

536
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: just complete insanity to go forward with this man. But

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Speaker 1: you have what he did in this interview. And he

538
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Speaker 1: put on a letter too. I think we may have

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00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: the letter we can put up on the screen. Yeah,

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00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: put the next one up on the screen. House. So

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Speaker 1: put on a letter to Congressional Democrats saying, despite all

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00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: the speculation, the pres and else where, I'm firmly committed

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Speaker 1: to staying this race, to running this race to the

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Speaker 1: end into beating Donald Trump. As many people have said,

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Speaker 1: I will not be the first one. He has done

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Speaker 1: nothing to actually alleviate the deep concerns and terror of

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Speaker 1: a majority, I think a large majority of the Democratic caucus,

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Speaker 1: both in the House in the set. He's done nothing

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Speaker 1: to alleviate those concerns. But he has been effective in

550
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: making it clear to them that you know, he is

551
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Speaker 1: not going to go out easily, and they have to

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00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: actually come at him and mount some sort of an

553
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Speaker 1: attempted coup to try to get him out of there,

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Speaker 1: it's not going to happen. It's basically like a murder

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00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: suicide pack. These are not courageous people. Sorry, I wish

556
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: they were, but they're not. By and large, these are

557
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,719
Speaker 1: a bunch of cowards who really have been exposed as

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00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 1: they certainly don't care all that much if Donald Trump

559
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: gets reelected. Don't take a word they say seriously from

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00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: here on out about democracies on the ballot, Project twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five or whatever. They clearly don't really care whether

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Speaker 1: or not he gets re elected. They're more interested in

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Speaker 1: maintaining their own careers, their own good standing in the party.

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Speaker 1: And then a bunch of the would be presidential contenders

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Speaker 1: they're like, okay, it works not better for me. If

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Speaker 1: Biden and Kamala Harris get their asses kicked in November,

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Speaker 1: then she's wiped clean off this late and I can

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Speaker 1: make my run in twenty twenty eight. Gretchen Whitmer, Gavin Newsome, Rocanna,

569
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Speaker 1: plenty of others out there who were eyeing twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: eight and thinking, you know what, for me personally in

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Speaker 1: my career, it works sound good if Joe Biden and

572
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris get their asses kicked this fall, and.

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Speaker 2: They're probably right, that's a crazy thing on it for

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Speaker 2: their good year devil, they're right, But for the country, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, but they ostensibly serve I don't know, maybe

576
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Speaker 2: you're just like Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: Little bit of narcissism, right.

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Speaker 1: And one of the thing I want to say about this, yea,

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Speaker 1: is I think that their political calculus is dead wrong.

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Speaker 1: I agree, because if slash, when Biden and Kamala do

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Speaker 1: lose this fall in astonishing fashion, or even if let's

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Speaker 1: say by some fluke, which I don't say is impossible,

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00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: they get elected and we then have four years of

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00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: watching this astonishing decline and Joe Biden potentially dying in office. Sorry,

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00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: that's the point that we're at. You think this is

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Speaker 1: going to reflect well on people who told the line

587
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: for him during this time, No, it's not. You're going

588
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: to look like the people who were pushing us into

589
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: I Rock War. You're going to look like all of

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Speaker 1: the people who got things dead wrong in history. That's

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Speaker 1: what you're going to look like. And it's not going

592
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: to be good for your career, regardless of whatever little

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00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: clever calculations you think that you're doing right now in

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00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: the moment the people at the courage to come out

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Speaker 1: and say this is insane, this is done accepted people

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Speaker 1: like Dean Phillips I disagree with on a lot that

597
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: he was dead right on this one. Those are the

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Speaker 1: people who are going to look good. They're going to

599
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: be the ones who have their careers bolstered if that's

600
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Speaker 1: the thing you care about, and you are going to

601
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: be embarrassed and humiliated and hopefully drummed down a public life. Yes,

602
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: for standing by this man and subjecting the country to this, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Glad you set that up because my prediction is that

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Speaker 2: Dean Phillips's run, while quixotic at the time, will go

605
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Speaker 2: down like Barack Obama's two thousand and two Iraq War speech.

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Speaker 2: Nobody in two thousand and two gave a shit what

607
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Speaker 2: Barack Obama had to say. In fact, there was only

608
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Speaker 2: one camera that recorded that speech about Barack Obama.

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Speaker 3: But when two thousand and eight rolled around, what happened?

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Speaker 2: Crystal, you were there, You remember that was the reason

611
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Speaker 2: he became the nominees because he used it against Hillary

612
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Speaker 2: and against the failed candidacy of John Kimmerbilick.

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Speaker 3: See this whole flip flop policy and all that stuff

614
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Speaker 3: in the past.

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Speaker 2: It served us badly. I was there from the very beginning.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you that that was the number one

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Speaker 2: reason that he beat Hillary Clinton in that primary. I believe,

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Speaker 2: and I'll put the marker out here. I think Dean

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Speaker 2: is going to be the front runner in twenty twenty

620
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: eight that reason.

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Speaker 3: I think it was a smart play. It will go.

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Speaker 3: Look also, he's filthy rich.

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Speaker 2: It's never hurt before, right, So you can run those

624
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: ads as much as you want. Luckily for him, it

625
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: happened in the Internet age. He's got plenty of things

626
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: that are out there that he can point to. Julian Castro,

627
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Speaker 2: he could try as well.

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Speaker 3: Be like Steve I.

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Speaker 1: Tried to tell you he was the canary and the

630
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Speaker 1: gold line.

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Speaker 3: And the thing is Democrats want to win, they know.

632
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Speaker 2: And so when Biden and the rest of the elites

633
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Speaker 2: who stayed silent or who were complicit, Bernie Sanders, AOC,

634
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: Johann Omar, all of these people have now come out

635
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Speaker 2: and publicly back to Biden. Why should anyone take you seriously?

636
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Speaker 2: Gavin s Wretchen, Yeah, bro, I mean all of these folks. So,

637
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: like you said, the time for courage is now, because otherwise,

638
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: if you really want to set yourself up, then I

639
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: think it's a big mistake. So Dean, I'm on the

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Speaker 2: Dean twenty twenty eight train. I'm not saying I like

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Speaker 2: or with him or whatever. Maybe I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Listen what he'll do.

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Speaker 1: He took a stance that was genuinely courageous.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and he was.

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Speaker 1: Remember how they were leaving all that and they were kicked.

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Speaker 1: They were leaking all that nasty stuff about him to Axios,

647
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Speaker 1: remember that report. He took a real short term hit

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Speaker 1: because he truly there's no other explanation for it. Then

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Speaker 1: he truly believed. He was like, this man is too

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Speaker 1: old and he's declined, is too advanced. This is not

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Speaker 1: going to work out well. Put himself out there. He

652
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Speaker 1: took it political hit, and he deserves a lot of

653
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Speaker 1: credit for that, even though I also, I mean, you

654
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Speaker 1: guys know, I've debated him. I disagree with him and

655
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Speaker 1: a lot of things, especially Israel, but he deserves credit

656
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Speaker 1: for that courage. Today I mentioned this at the top.

657
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Speaker 1: It is a pivotal day. You have the House and

658
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Speaker 1: the Senate back in town. They've been away. They're all

659
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Speaker 1: back now. Both the House and the Senate Democratic caucuses

660
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: are meeting today, and uh so we'll see if the

661
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: damn holds or the damn breaks. I have to tell

662
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: you where we stand this morning. It looks very much

663
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Speaker 1: like the dam was holding. President Biden met with the

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Speaker 1: Congressional Black Caucus. I mean, that's the other thing I'm

665
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: only picked up on this yesterday is they've tried to

666
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: really racialize this and make it like, oh, well, black

667
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: people want President Biden, and it's just these white elites

668
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: that want him gone, which, let's just be clear, majority

669
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: of black voters even before the debate, thought that he

670
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: was too old to serve. So don't buy that nonsense.

671
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: Definitely don't buy the Legoh, it's just the elites that

672
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: want him out. There are some elites that want him out.

673
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: We had one of them on the show yesterday, Abigail Disney.

674
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Speaker 1: But the truth of the matter is, which ironically f

675
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,719
Speaker 1: Jake Tapper pointed out yesterday, the elites are finally catching

676
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: up to where the voting public has long been. Even

677
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: before the debate, you had some seventy percent of Americans

678
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: who said this man was too old to serve. So

679
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: you finally have the elites forced to admit what has

680
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: been obvious to most of the country all the way along.

681
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Speaker 1: But I digress to go back to the original point.

682
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Speaker 1: You know, I think Democrats have become too scared to

683
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Speaker 1: mount any sort of real opposition him. It looks really

684
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: like you had a bunch of people come on yesterday're like, oh,

685
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: I have concerns, he's got to prove himself, but not

686
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: taking a firm position. You add many more like AOC

687
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 1: like ilhan Omer and others who came out and said

688
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: I'm with him. He's the guy. We're sticking by him.

689
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: Hakeem Jeffries. This was also very important, saying I've always

690
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: been with Joe, I'm still with Joe, and so I

691
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 1: think he's probably managed to get through this moment. We'll

692
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: see how his big boy press conference goes. Is they

693
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: were discussing it, Yes, they're both. John Kirby and Koreeen

694
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: jump here called his press conference Thursday a quote big

695
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: boy press conference, which is so humiliated. I don't even

696
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: know what to say about it. But there I do

697
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: think that there is an access Hollywood parallel here, which

698
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: is sager. I wonder what you make of this. The

699
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: assumption has been that now that the press corps and

700
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: Democrats have said these things, they can't be unsaid that

701
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: now every interaction is going to be put under a

702
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: micro scope. You could have another bad performance for Biden

703
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: where there's another round of freakouts and defecting, et cetera.

704
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that that's the case, because I think

705
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: it's more like after Trump survived Access Hollywood, then people

706
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: on the Republican side kept their mouths shut more.

707
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 3: That's right.

708
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: They realize, all right, well he got through it last time,

709
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Speaker 1: so I guess he's going to get through it again,

710
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 1: and they just fell in line. I think, at least

711
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: for Democrats and probably for the media as well, that's

712
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: more likely. The direction we go in is that they

713
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: the further away from the debate we get, the more

714
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: they forget how bad it was, the more they pretend

715
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Speaker 1: they never said the things that they said, and they

716
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Speaker 1: just pushed forward with the plan, because.

717
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Speaker 2: Look, it's a gamble, the gambling. Ever, by the way,

718
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: the Access Hollywood won, I'll I'm not going to defend it,

719
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: but I'll just say the Republican elites at that time

720
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Speaker 2: they thought they were going down to a historic loss.

721
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Speaker 2: So what do you do. You try and preempt it,

722
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 2: and you call it I ended up being the bad gamble,

723
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: and it was definitely wrong in terms of their own

724
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: political futures. That said, if you were right and Trump

725
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: did go down to historic loss, they would all look

726
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: like geniuses, wouldn't they, and they would use that as ammunition.

727
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: Now the lesson, I think for a lot the thing

728
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: is too is And this is where I wonder what

729
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: you think. I don't think the Democratic elites are playing

730
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: that calculus.

731
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 3: I think they're just cowards.

732
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: Mark Warner was like, he's organizing a meeting behind the scenes,

733
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: and then Biden is like, oh, he's a good man.

734
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 2: It leaks, he cancels the meeting. You're just a coward, dude.

735
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Speaker 2: That's not calculus. You're just scared. Jakeem jeffries behind the scenes,

736
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: organizing calls, blah blah blah. Last night he comes out

737
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: and he says, I support the president. Even Chuck Schumer.

738
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Speaker 2: He comes out and yesterday and he goes, I support you,

739
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Speaker 2: I'm backing Joe, Yeah, something like that. These are not

740
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Speaker 2: full throated endorsements. It's just the act of cowardice, of

741
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: the path dependence and the recognition that, look, we don't

742
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Speaker 2: have a choice because Biden is gonna not gonna drop out.

743
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Speaker 3: He's basically staying in.

744
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Speaker 2: By the way, can we put a seven please up

745
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: on the screen, because this just shows you too how

746
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: full of it Joe Biden is on that call. When

747
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 2: he or on the MSNBC interview, he blasted democratic elites.

748
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 2: The very next thing he did is he called a

749
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 2: bunch of donors and took questions.

750
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Speaker 3: So keep that in mind.

751
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: Joe Biden has now taken more questions from donors and

752
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 2: people donating big money than the US Press Corps and

753
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: who have had to wait. Now what, So Thursday will

754
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: be the first time that we finally get to ask

755
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: questions of the president in a public setting, allegedly solo.

756
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: By the way, stay tuned for this. I believe it

757
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: will be straight up rigged. And what I mean by

758
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: that is that, as I understand it, the credentials have

759
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 2: already been issued for the press conference very early. That

760
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: usually doesn't happen. You usually do credentials like a day

761
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: or two before something like that. From the inside, just

762
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 2: what I can offer. That also means that the White

763
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Speaker 2: House can restrict any yahoos like yours, truly from being

764
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Speaker 2: able to sign up if they don't want to, and

765
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: then they can pre screen and talk to every single

766
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: person who's going to ask a question and say Okay,

767
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: you're up. President Biden will then have a list of

768
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Speaker 2: those people, people like CBS News, at O'Keefe, AP Reuters.

769
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Speaker 3: I'm going to give them that.

770
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Speaker 2: I will give them the benefit of the doubt and

771
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 2: hope and assume that those people, because the moment is

772
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: so extraordinary, they're going to override their previous biases and

773
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: they're going to ask him tough questions. But the idea

774
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: of the free flowing presser, the way that Trump was,

775
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: where genuinely anybody who had their hands up might have

776
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: gotten called on, that's over and I think that Biden

777
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 2: it's going to be very tightly controlled.

778
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Speaker 8: Sure.

779
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Speaker 2: And the other thing is is that you know how

780
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Speaker 2: long is it going to be? President Eisenhower used to

781
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 2: do two hour press conferences routinely. I mean thirty minutes,

782
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: forty five minutes. Do you know Biden he can filibuster.

783
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: Let's say you take four questions and you take ten

784
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: minutes to answer every single one. That's a big boy

785
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: press conference, right, So there's many different ways that we

786
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: can rig this thing, you know. And I've seen it

787
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 2: all happen before. I saw the Trump people try and

788
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 2: do it. But under Biden, I'm watching this very closely

789
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 2: and I'm keeping my ear to the ground about what's

790
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 2: going on.

791
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: Well, and there's a reason why the Big Boy Press

792
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: conference isn't happening till Thursday. Yeah, right, tick tick tick.

793
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: And the meanwhile, they've you know, kind of outflanked some

794
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: of the detractors. They got the Congressional Black Caucus fully

795
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: behind them, They've got Jim Kleiburn, and they've gotvered standers,

796
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: and they've got AOC, and they've really they've really made

797
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: a push to scare people, not to convince them that

798
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: Biden is up to the task, no one really believes that,

799
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: but to scare them with regards to their own careers

800
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: of what the consequences would be for coming out. I

801
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: think it's by and large working. I mean, you still have,

802
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: like I said, you still have people coming out. You

803
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: had a Congressman Adam Smith go public yesterday saying that

804
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't think Biden's the right person. You had you

805
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: had Sharon Brown in Ohio expressing a lot of concerns,

806
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: and Cloba Shark expressing a lot of concerns, but not

807
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: going so far as to say that he needs to

808
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: step aside. But I do think that their plan is

809
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: basically working. And so by the time you get to

810
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: Thursday of this week, you will have had even more

811
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 1: Democrats close ranks. And so even if it is a catastrophe,

812
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: which even with it pre screen rigged whatever God knows,

813
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: that could still be a total complete catastrophe, it may

814
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Speaker 1: be too late at that.

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Speaker 2: Here's another easy way to rig it, because the press

816
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: conference is on the heels of the NATO summit, which

817
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: is happening here in Washington. So what do you do.

818
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: You come up there, Let's say you make a big

819
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: announcement on Ukraine. Well, now you're kind of an idiot

820
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 2: if you don't also ask about what's going on with Ukraine. Right,

821
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 2: So now we take some of our press conference and

822
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 2: we just let the policy override. Let's say fifteen out

823
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: of the one hour. Well, now we just took one

824
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 2: fourth of the entire time. And here's another trick that

825
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: I've seen them play before. It's called the two and two.

826
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Speaker 2: So what he'll do is maybe he's calling it solo.

827
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Speaker 2: We'll see, maybe he pulls in Emmanuel Macron. Now, oh,

828
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Speaker 2: the French reporters get to ask some questions. You think

829
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: the French care about what's going on with Joe Biden.

830
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 2: They're gonna ask Macron about whatever is going on in

831
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Speaker 2: the parliament. And so Biden sits there and then the

832
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 2: last Biden some stupid question which the foreign press usually does,

833
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 2: be like do you still support France? And He's like, yes,

834
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Speaker 2: France is our easy Now I got another question box

835
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Speaker 2: that's checked. So there's all these different ways that were

836
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: watching for and the more that you delay. Now you've

837
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: got Hakim on the record, you got Chuck Schumer on

838
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Speaker 2: the record. Imagine if he had gone on the record

839
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Speaker 2: the day after that debate and it was a disaster, Well,

840
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 2: then Hakeem Jeffreys and Chuck Schumer.

841
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 3: Are in a much more untenable position.

842
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: So I think he's going to write it out and

843
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 2: I mean, this is just craziness, it's just straight it's

844
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: absolute insanity.

845
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Speaker 3: What's happening. I still cannot believe he's actually running for

846
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 3: another term. It's just shocking.

847
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: It is utter madness, and we are all here to

848
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: witness it.

849
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Speaker 2: At the same time, as we take a little bit

850
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: more of a look at the media, we wonder why

851
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 2: is Biden clinging to power? Who out there could credibly

852
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: continue to support him? Well, Whoopy Goldberg, some of the

853
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: other women at the view are showing just how much

854
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: that mindset still pervades quite a bit of the elite commentariat.

855
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: Here's Whoopy saying she would still support Biden even if

856
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 2: he pooped his own pants.

857
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: Let's take a lesson.

858
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Speaker 7: I don't care if he's pooped his pants. I don't

859
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 7: care if he can't put a sentence together. Show me

860
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 7: he can't do the job, and then I'll say, Okay,

861
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 7: maybe it's time to go now. He had a bad

862
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 7: night the first time that he went out and debated

863
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Speaker 7: with Kamila Harris, and everybody wanted him to quit that

864
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 7: and say you can't talk to women like this, or

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Speaker 7: you're doing this wrong, you're doing that wrong. He came

866
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Speaker 7: back said, you know what, I got it and gave

867
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Speaker 7: four years. So, yeah, I have poopy days all the time.

868
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Speaker 7: I step in so much pool you can't even imagine. Now,

869
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Speaker 7: I'm not running the world, but I don't know anybody

870
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Speaker 7: who doesn't step in stuff at some point. So I'm

871
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Speaker 7: just simply saying, there are two debates, and if he

872
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Speaker 7: can't do what he needs to do for the second debate,

873
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 7: I'll join any crew that says get rid of him,

874
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 7: but loyalty to me. If you are doing the job.

875
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Speaker 7: I might not like everything you're doing. I don't like

876
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 7: it all, but I'm gonna stand behind you. Let those

877
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 7: guys stand behind the guy who should have been the

878
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 7: person people were talking about saying, yeah, Biden had a

879
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 7: bad day, but this guy couldn't tell the truth if

880
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Speaker 7: it's split his lip.

881
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 10: Joe Biden is the first one that says I'm slower.

882
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 10: I don't debate as well as I do I did,

883
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 10: I'm eighty one years old. It seems worse than that, okay,

884
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Speaker 10: But he's the first one to say he's not the same.

885
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 10: Just look at my record of a.

886
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Speaker 5: Polomst litigate the case against Trump the way that we

887
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Speaker 5: saw the vice president.

888
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Speaker 2: There.

889
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Speaker 1: That is the difference.

890
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Speaker 5: And there's a reason Donald Trump is actually not out

891
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 5: there shouting about the debate.

892
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: He knows that Joe Biden will lose to him. He

893
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: is afraid Advice President Harrett.

894
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Speaker 7: Here's the actual also real truth. You know, it doesn't

895
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 7: matter what we say should be happening. It's going to

896
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 7: come down to one or the other.

897
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Speaker 3: Right, various student analysis.

898
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Speaker 2: There At the end, Anna Navarro saying, well, he's the

899
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: first to say that he doesn't do well. But look,

900
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: that is the perfect example of the whole like Biden,

901
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: like the same ladies who are accusing people of being

902
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: in a cult. That's what being in a cult looks like.

903
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: I believe in loyalty. I would vote for him. I

904
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: don't care if he pooped his pants. You also shouted

905
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Speaker 2: this out. They're like, I'll look for the next debate.

906
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Speaker 2: The next debate in September. It's after the DNC.

907
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Speaker 3: There's nothing you can do at that time.

908
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Speaker 1: It's it's before the election. Body knows, yeah, of course

909
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: she knows.

910
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, run off the clock.

911
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. She actually even directly makes the comparison. She says,

912
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Speaker 1: I need to have loyalty the way that the other

913
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Speaker 1: side has loyalty to Trump. She actually directly says that

914
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Speaker 1: if you listen to what she's talking about, like the

915
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Speaker 1: other guy they should have should have been talking about,

916
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Speaker 1: we need to have that same kind of loyalty. It's like, Okay,

917
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Speaker 1: that where that's where you are, and listen. I don't

918
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Speaker 1: share this analysis, but I can respect someone who says, listen,

919
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: if it is Trump and Biden, I think Biden is

920
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: the lesser of evil of the two. I support more

921
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Speaker 1: the direction of the demoocratic Party. I'm voting for the

922
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: entire administration, and these are terrible choices, but I got

923
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: to do what I gotta do. Okay, I think that's

924
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,959
Speaker 1: a reasonable argument to make. But to pretend like, first

925
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: of all, there's no other options available right now, to

926
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 1: pretend like your priority is beating Donald Trump, but you're

927
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: sticking with Joe Biden, To pretend like you don't have

928
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: any credible doubts right now that he can't do the

929
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: job today, as WHOOPI Goldberg says, and to set the

930
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 1: bar at even if he poops his pants. I don't care,

931
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Speaker 1: Like it's just an incredible commentary of where we are

932
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: as a nation right now, what a sad, declining, dying empire,

933
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Speaker 1: that the standard we have for our presidents is like,

934
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 1: you could even poop your pants and I don't care.

935
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Speaker 1: This is still what we're going to do or we're

936
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Speaker 1: going to fall in line. We're gonna have loyalty, because

937
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: that's what matters, loyalty to this man who thinks he's

938
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: some like God king over commit to what might be

939
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: best for the country according to your values. I don't know,

940
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: it's just it's just sad, okay, Alissa Fair actually that's

941
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: her name, right, He's aware actually speaking some truth there

942
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: too about how Trump has been pretty quiet because he

943
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Speaker 1: doesn't want Biden to drop out of the raten This

944
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: is working out perfect for him, for him to be

945
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: hobbled and pathetic and unable to even barely hobble around

946
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: the country to campaign, but still hanging in there strong

947
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: based on his ego and his crackhead son. This is

948
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: perfect for Donald Trump.

949
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, if we continued, you know, down this road,

950
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: this idea of loyalty and all of that, it's for

951
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: what reason Biden is in a worse position for a

952
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: Democrat since two thousand.

953
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Speaker 3: George W. Bush is the last person beating Democrats this

954
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 3: badly in the polls. And that's not me.

955
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: That's CNN's Harry Enton, who fact checks Biden's interview and

956
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: statements where he's like, actually, I'm in a better pasoling

957
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: position than ever before. Don't believe the polls, my internals

958
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: show something different.

959
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 5: Take a listen right now, Donald Trump believe it's in

960
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 5: an act of national polls by about three percentage points.

961
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Speaker 5: If you go back four years ago, at this point,

962
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 5: Joe Biden was ahead by nine points. This right now

963
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 5: don't look anything like what we saw four years ago.

964
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 5: At this point, I then decided to take it a

965
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 5: step further. What was Biden's worst twenty twenty polling position.

966
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 5: He was ahead by four points, which basically matched what

967
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 5: he ended up beating Donald Trump by in the national

968
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 5: popular vote. So this three point advantage for Donald Trump

969
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 5: is Donald Trump's best position versus Joe Biden, whether you

970
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 5: include the polls this year or you include the polls

971
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 5: last cycle. The idea that the polls underestimated Joe Biden

972
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 5: last time around, simply put, does not hold any water.

973
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 5: Mister Burnam, who outperformed their July national polls. This is

974
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 5: major elections during the Trump era. We can start in

975
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 5: the midterms right. Take a look here. This is a

976
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 5: twenty twenty two midterm. This is a generic congressional ballot.

977
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 5: In fact, Republicans were underestimated by a point. They outperformed

978
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 5: their July polls and the actual result by a percent points.

979
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 5: You go back to twenty eighteen, Democrats did outperform their polls,

980
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 5: but just by point. Basically, the polls were right on

981
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 5: at this particular point in the midterm elections. We talk

982
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 5: about the presidential race last time around, Donald Trump actually

983
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 5: did better in the results than his July polls by

984
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 5: five points. You go back to twenty sixteen, you see

985
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 5: something very similar. That is, the July polls actually underestimated

986
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 5: Donald Trump. He outperformed his July polls. So the idea

987
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 5: in the Trump era that the polls have underestimated Democrats,

988
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 5: whether it be in a Joe Biden matchup, whether it

989
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 5: be a matchup against Hillary Clinton, whether it be in

990
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 5: the mid trumps, at least in the national polling that

991
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 5: right now shows Donald Trump in his strongest position, simply put,

992
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 5: is not true. If anything, the polls have underestimated Republicans

993
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 5: during the Trump era, especially in the presidential races in

994
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 5: twenty sixteen and in twenty trump on.

995
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's just take that very clearly, you know,

996
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 2: and this crystal, this is what the rational look. There

997
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 2: are a few what let's say, like five maybe six

998
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 2: House Democrats who've actually come out and call for him

999
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 2: to step down. What I find amazing is it's not

1000
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: not ilhan Omar, aoc Rokana, any squad people who have

1001
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 2: legitimate policy beefs. It's like normy Democrats from like Minnesota

1002
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: or Washington, and.

1003
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, they're like, I just want to win.

1004
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 2: I like Biden, but I don't think he's very He's

1005
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 2: well poised to win. Why are they more rational and

1006
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 2: courageous frankly being able to look at this political.

1007
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 3: Case than illan Omar, Like what is happening here?

1008
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, here's my best attempt at explain it.

1009
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 1: Number One, if you're a centrist, you have less fear

1010
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: of being like excised from the party because there isn't

1011
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: this like ideological war on you. So there is that,

1012
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: But they still deserve credit, you know, the anti Craigs

1013
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 1: of the world, Adams Becif. But they still deserve credit

1014
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: for coming out because it still does obviously take some

1015
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: courage to do, especially at this stage. I think there's

1016
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: some like forty chess thought going on with the Bernie's

1017
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: and the aocs and whatever of like, well, we don't

1018
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: want to be the ones because they really hate us

1019
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 1: and distrust us. We don't want to make this ideological.

1020
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: And I also think that there's a careerist move of like, well,

1021
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: you know, if he does drop out, it's not like

1022
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: we're going to get a candidate that is ideologically aligned

1023
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: with us. We're gonna ge Kamala Harris, who we also

1024
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: you know, don't really care for. So maybe it's better

1025
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: we just let Trump win and then, you know, try

1026
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: to get behind a more lefty candidate in twenty twenty eight.

1027
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: But I think it's sad. I think it's pathetic. I

1028
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: think it lacks total courage and integrity. And here's the

1029
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: other thing. It's like you don't have to say anything

1030
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: right to come out affirmatively like AOC did, like ilhan

1031
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: Omar did. Bernie Sanders has been Joe Biden's like biggest defender.

1032
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: I think with him it also comes down he's always

1033
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: personally liked Joe. He's got this soft spot for him.

1034
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: He couldn't attack him in the primary in twenty twenty,

1035
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: so I think that's part of it for him, Like

1036
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: Joe was nice to him back in his early days

1037
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: in the Senate or whatever that I don't know, but

1038
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: it's pathetic. It's utterly pathetic that these are the people

1039
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: are supposed to be, you know, the opposition, the adversarial

1040
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: faction within the Democratic Party, and they turn out to

1041
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: be the greatest boot liquors. Amazing and amazing.

1042
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look at the rhetoric of Adam Smith.

1043
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: Adam this is a normal guy. He's from Washington, he's

1044
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 2: been Congress for a long time. He's a high ranking Democrat.

1045
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 2: It's a freaking Financial Services Committee. People in DC know

1046
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 2: who the hell he is. Listen to the way he

1047
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 2: articulates the case against Biden. Let's take a listen.

1048
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 6: Well, look, I think he should step aside. I think

1049
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 6: it's become clear that he's not the best person to

1050
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 6: carry the Democratic message. And here's the thing. We have

1051
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 6: an incredibly strong message and record to run on, and all,

1052
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 6: you know, respect to the president, he's done a great job.

1053
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 6: The President has shown he is not capable of delivering

1054
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 6: that message. Is it an effective way?

1055
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 5: Just because I shouldn't say, just because that ninety minute

1056
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 5: debate was a lot, but is this based entirely on

1057
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 5: that event?

1058
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 8: No?

1059
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 6: No, what there was concerns leading up to it in

1060
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 6: the terms of the president's ability to deliver a message,

1061
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 6: and it hasn't gotten better since the debate.

1062
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 2: That's it, super basic, right, Yeah, we respect you. You know,

1063
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 2: it's like what abagail do?

1064
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 3: Isn't he?

1065
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: We thank you for all the work you've done. We're

1066
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 2: moving on. You can't do the job. Yeah, this is

1067
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: basic stuff. And you know, I don't even think he's

1068
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: articulated it in a particularly offensive way. He's not like, oh,

1069
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: we can't even walk or any of the stuff. He's like, look,

1070
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: you can't do it. He showed us that there were

1071
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 2: some concerns. We have a good record. Let's go in

1072
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: a different direction. Yeah, why is it so hard?

1073
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: I am kind of sick of all the whole Biden

1074
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 1: is so amazing. It's yeah, it's so incredible. It's like,

1075
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: why don't you ask the people in Gazo we're about

1076
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: to talk about there could be as many as two

1077
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Speaker 1: hundred thousand people who have been killed there, like ten

1078
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Speaker 1: percent of the population. How nice of a guy Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden is. But put that aside for a moment. The

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Speaker 1: people who are coming out, I think you have to

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Speaker 1: conclude our people who number one are potentially more politically

1082
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Speaker 1: savvy and see where the ball is ultimately going to bounce.

1083
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Speaker 1: And like I was saying before, how it's not going

1084
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Speaker 1: to reflect well on anyone that you know who stood

1085
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Speaker 1: up for Biden in this moment and who tried to

1086
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Speaker 1: cover for him in this moment, tried to deny reality

1087
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Speaker 1: that was in front of all of our faces. It's

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Speaker 1: not going to work out well for them. So that's

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Speaker 1: number one. But number two, I think the there are

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Speaker 1: probably people who really believe the rhetoric about democracies on

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00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: the ballot and this could be the last election and

1092
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Speaker 1: it's all on the line and Project twenty twenty five,

1093
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: and like we have to put everything aside and really

1094
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: marshal our resources and put forward our best case to

1095
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Speaker 1: try to defeat that man. If you if you really

1096
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Speaker 1: believe that, you would be behaving the way Congressman Smith

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Speaker 1: and Angie Craig, and I think Quigley was another of these,

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00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: you know other congress people who have come out and said,

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Speaker 1: like he has to step aside. If you really believe that,

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Speaker 1: it's very clear that that's the posture that you would take.

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00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: So for these other people who are running cover for him,

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Speaker 1: like don't don't come to me, in the future, pretending

1103
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: like this is an existential election. You clearly don't believe that.

1104
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Speaker 1: You don't believe that, so you know, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to hear it in the future about what a danger

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Speaker 1: Trump is or what a fascist he is, what a

1107
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Speaker 1: threat to the republic, because you do not believe that

1108
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: you have been exposed in this moment as utterly full

1109
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Speaker 1: of shit when it comes to any credibility on the

1110
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Speaker 1: question of what a threat Donald Trump is.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely