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Speaker 1: Welcome inside with the Insiders alongside Judy Batista, I am

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Speaker 1: Tom Pellicero. A busy week wrapped up around the NFL

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Speaker 1: with mini camps coming to it and Judy. But as

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Speaker 1: you know, the NFL never sleeps, and neither do we

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Speaker 1: Panthers running back. Cuba Hubbard going to be a guest

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Speaker 1: on the show tonight. How's that new look offense coming?

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Speaker 1: Along with Dave Canalis? What does Cuba have to say

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Speaker 1: about Bryce Young? Brian Baldinger also going to be on

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Speaker 1: the show. There's some big name free agents still available.

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Speaker 1: What are the best fits for them? As we lead

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Speaker 1: up the training camp, Baldy will help break us, help

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Speaker 1: us break that down. But let's start in Kansas City

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Speaker 1: where no, this is not a rerun. The Chiefs again

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Speaker 1: getting a whole lot of diamonds. What do you think

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Speaker 1: of those rings, Judy? The next one.

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Speaker 2: That they win, which will probably very very soon, it's

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Speaker 2: going to reach all the way to like their fingernails,

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Speaker 2: that's how big those rings are.

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Speaker 1: Now, if you need like a paper weight on your desk,

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Speaker 1: I think that those would be very effective. And guess what,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes not done building this dynasty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, special Tommy, something we always talked about was winning

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Speaker 3: the back to back championship, and you said, it's a

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Speaker 3: small group of teams, and the kind of puts that

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Speaker 3: stamp that we are we are this dynasty now and

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Speaker 3: we can kind of keep building on that now and

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Speaker 3: see how specially I can really get.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Costco sells these right, buy three rings, you gonna

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Speaker 1: get half off or something like that. Hopefully they've got

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Speaker 1: another one. With the way that these guys are going,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelson company all celebrating. You know who

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Speaker 1: else was there and I think this is really cool.

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Speaker 1: Bj Thompson, the young defensive lineman who just a week

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Speaker 1: or so ago went to the hospital had had a

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Speaker 1: seizure and gone into cardiac arrest or at a special

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Speaker 1: teams meeting, got out of the hospital over last weekend.

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Speaker 1: He's there looking dapper. Yo else is always dapper? Our

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Speaker 1: guy Baldy who is with us right now? Baldy. We

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Speaker 1: look at the Chiefs. They have talked.

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Speaker 4: Openly from literally minutes after that Super Bowl win over

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Speaker 4: the forty nine ers about going for the three pet

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Speaker 4: In your mind, what is the biggest obstacle if one exists?

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Speaker 1: For the Chiefs to accomplish something that is as difficult

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Speaker 1: as anything in NFL history.

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Speaker 5: Well outside of Andy Reid and his wife Tammy just

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Speaker 5: checking out and going to their home at Dana Floyd, California.

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Speaker 5: I would say they've got four players on their team

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Speaker 5: that have largely been very healthy, and I think they're

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Speaker 5: in dispenser. And I would say, in no particular order,

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Speaker 5: I would say, look, if Travis Kelsey misses any time,

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Speaker 5: that could hurt them. If Chris Jones misses any time,

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Speaker 5: stone Cold Jones is the leader.

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Speaker 6: Of that defense.

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Speaker 5: If Creed Humphrey, who's basically staffed every single ball to

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Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes over the last three years, and of course

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Speaker 5: the quarterback Homes, if they would miss any amount of time,

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Speaker 5: I would say that would hurt their chances because those

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Speaker 5: four players, to me, are the rock of this.

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Speaker 6: Team and kind of the pillars that this team is

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Speaker 6: built upon.

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Speaker 2: First of all, let me start by saying that I

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Speaker 2: have already picked them to three pete, so I don't

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Speaker 2: really think anything.

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Speaker 7: Is going to trip them up. But if I had

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Speaker 7: to pick something other.

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Speaker 2: Than I agree with Baldy, health is always the number

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Speaker 2: one factor. They have a really weird schedule this year.

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Speaker 2: They're the Kansas City Chiefs. Everybody wants to see them.

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Speaker 2: They play on every day of the week this year

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Speaker 2: except Tuesday. So there's not going to be the normal

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Speaker 2: rhythm of the season. They're just not going to have

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Speaker 2: normal weeks. This is a really veteran team, It's a

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Speaker 2: really veteran coaching staff. They can adapt through anything, but

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Speaker 2: that could throw a team off, and especially as you

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Speaker 2: point out, if there are health issues, having a lot

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Speaker 2: of short weeks could become an issue.

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Speaker 1: I love that Baldy and the four indispensable players manage

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Speaker 1: to get an offensive lineman in create Humphrey. Don't say that,

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Speaker 1: fathercohol Remember if Mahomes misses a time this season, the

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Speaker 1: backup in Kansas City, Carson Wentz. Baldy, stick around. We're

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Speaker 1: going to get back to you in just a little

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Speaker 1: bit here. We've got other things. A lot still on

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of business, a lot of deals to

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Speaker 1: Miami quarterback is certainly one of them. He talked in

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Speaker 8: Am I concerned about it? I'm not concerned about it.

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Speaker 8: But there's a lot of discussions you know that we've

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Speaker 8: we've had that. You know, we just are trying to

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Speaker 8: move that thing into their direction where we can both

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Speaker 6: Personally.

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Speaker 1: Does your agent update you like every time they are talks?

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Speaker 8: Well, my my agent updates me. But for me, I

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Speaker 8: don't like updates like every time. Like, you don't got

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Speaker 8: to tell me the little things. Just tell me things

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Speaker 8: that that matter. Are we getting to work we want to?

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Speaker 8: Or are we not?

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Speaker 9: That's it.

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Speaker 8: Did you think there'd be more progress at this point, Well,

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Speaker 8: I think there's been a lot of progress at this

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Speaker 8: point from where we started. There's been a lot of progress. Now,

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Speaker 8: you know, you can ask the other question, then why

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Speaker 8: aren't we seeing, you know, in agreement.

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Speaker 9: Well, that's the tough part about it. That's why it's

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Speaker 9: it's business.

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Speaker 8: That's why you got one side and the other trying

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Speaker 1: So too made those comments a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: And yes, I'm also as thrown as everybody else every

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Speaker 1: a tongue by Lowo. But he made those comments Judy

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Speaker 1: prior to Trevor Lawrence getting his new deal to his

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Speaker 1: due about twenty three million dollars on his fifty year

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Speaker 1: option this year. Miami, of course has the leverage of

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Speaker 1: a couple of franchise tags. They could apply beyond that,

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Speaker 1: but this was always a deal that, when it gets done,

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Speaker 1: Judy that with the Trevor Lawrence deal, fifty five is

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Speaker 1: now the floor for Tua in Miami, there's no question.

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Speaker 2: And two, when he made those comments, he was antsy.

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Speaker 2: That's the word he used, antsy about getting a contract.

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Speaker 2: And we'll imagine how he must feel now that Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 2: he's already got his extension toos is not done yet. Certainly,

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Speaker 2: fifty five is now the new floor for Tua. And

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Speaker 2: if the Miami Dolphins are not there and they want

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Speaker 2: they got to get there because that is the number,

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Speaker 2: and the number is only rising with every day that passes.

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Speaker 1: Same thing with Packers quarterback Jordan Love, he's doing eleven

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Speaker 1: that he did last year to give him a raise

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Speaker 1: fifty year option. Well just like two as well, Judy,

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Speaker 1: this was always going to be fifty million plus for

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love, and it's hard to make a case based

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Speaker 1: even into the playoffs that last interception. Notwithstanding that fifty

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Speaker 1: five is also the floor for Jordan Love, there's no question.

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Speaker 2: First of all, he actually has had a better post

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Speaker 2: has in the postseason. I think the message here is

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Speaker 2: if you're a team that has a quarterback that needs

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Speaker 2: the price goes up and up and up. It's great

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Speaker 2: for the quarterbacks. The cost is not going to go down.

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Speaker 2: It's only going to keep rising with each contract. So

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Speaker 2: get yours done, let them let the guys after you

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Speaker 2: worry about the price after that.

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Speaker 1: And Judy, you know who waited. The Dallas Cowboys with

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Speaker 1: their quarterback Dak Prescott, who is due about thirty four

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Speaker 1: million dollars this season in the final year of his deal.

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Speaker 1: They can't franchise tag him because they've already tagged him twice.

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Speaker 1: It would be almost eighty million dollars. That's not happening.

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Speaker 1: My understanding is the door is still open for the

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Speaker 7: I would not be shocked.

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Speaker 1: They're not there yet, but I would not be shocked, Judy,

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Speaker 1: if they can find a path to get something done

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Speaker 2: Well, you have to think if they get something on,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be in the region of sixty million dollars.

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Speaker 7: I mean, that is.

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Speaker 2: Certainly where you would think this has to go.

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Speaker 7: For Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 2: He is more accomplished than the guys who have gotten

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Speaker 2: fifty five so far. Certainly has given more to the

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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys since then, he's got all the leverage. He

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Speaker 2: seems to be perfectly comfortable with the idea of going

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Speaker 2: the number skyrocket with multiple bidders. So if the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: be the franchise quarterback going forward, they have to try

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Speaker 2: to get a deal done now.

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Speaker 1: Dak's playing the contract here a couple of years before

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Speaker 1: lot of work in mini camp with receivers not named

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Speaker 1: CD Lamb because his top receiver was a holdout from

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Speaker 1: that mini camp. He's doing about eighteen million dollars this

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Speaker 1: the sign Ceede Lamb to a deal, I would say

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Speaker 1: a path forward with Cede Lamb to get something done

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Speaker 1: with him as well before the start of the season.

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Speaker 1: But Judy with Justin Jefferson doing that four year, one

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Speaker 1: hundred and forty million dollar deal in Minnesota from the

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Speaker 1: same draft class. Remember, Jefferson missed time last year. CD

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Speaker 1: is four years, one hundred and forty million for CD

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Speaker 1: the ceiling or is it the floor?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we're going to have almost the same

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Speaker 2: conversation about wide receivers that we're having about the quarterback class,

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Speaker 2: which is, if you have a top receiver who needs

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Speaker 2: a deal, it is better to go first and get

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Speaker 2: price is only going to go up, and you're right,

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Speaker 2: the Justin Jefferson deal I think set the new floor

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Speaker 2: for the top receivers who are still waiting for contracts.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a really good deal for CD Lamb.

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Speaker 1: Bengals have a couple of those receivers looking to get paid.

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Speaker 1: It is T Higgins, it is Jamar Chase. T Higgins

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Speaker 1: is really the simpler situation because he is franchise tagged.

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Speaker 1: He has not signed that tag. They haven't July fifteenth

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Speaker 1: to potentially work out a long term deal. But based

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Speaker 1: of years ago, which is show up right before the season,

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Speaker 1: collect all your game checks, then probably hit unrestricted free agency.

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Speaker 1: When you get into twenty twenty five, Jamar Chase, it's

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Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. You know he's going to want to beat

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Speaker 10: That it's a legitimate one. Tom, a legit quarterback competition.

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Speaker 5: You know, Omar, what really has me interested and exciting

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Speaker 5: What do you think, Well, it does start with Jayden

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Speaker 5: Teammates are getting to know him, like he's really asserting

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Speaker 11: The culture there is shifting.

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Speaker 12: And from people I've spoken to in both elements, the

439
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Speaker 12: football office and the business office, it is such a

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Speaker 12: breadth of fresh air and it goes to dan Quinn

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Speaker 12: and trust me, they're gonna miss him in Dallas, but

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Speaker 12: also Jane Daniels has offered a lot of this change

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Speaker 12: to Baldy.

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Speaker 11: You know, we've talked to people.

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Speaker 12: The excitement that he brings with the talent right the

446
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Speaker 12: ball leaves his hand differently, the energy that he brings.

447
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Speaker 12: He's part of the run game that they're going to

448
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Speaker 12: be implementing with Austin Eckler and Brian Robinson.

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Speaker 11: But that's part of it right here.

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Speaker 12: But Baldy, you know, I know dan Quinn said, you

451
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Speaker 12: know he's not going to name his starting court yet.

452
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Speaker 12: You and I both are wise enough to know after

453
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Speaker 12: watching enough football, there is no way that they drafted Jayden,

454
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Speaker 12: Daniel's second overall to back up Marcus Marioda.

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Speaker 5: Well, look, Steve, we were both in Atlanta in two

456
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Speaker 5: thousand and eight when Matt Ryan came in with Mike Smith,

457
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Speaker 5: and they didn't just hand the job to Matt Ryan.

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Speaker 6: He earned it, but they had a plan for him

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Speaker 6: to earn it.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and I think I think Dan understands like he

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Speaker 5: wants him to prove that he's deserving of the starting role.

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Speaker 6: So there'll be some plan in.

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Speaker 5: Preseason scrimmages, preseason games where Jayden can basically take the

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Speaker 5: job and be ready to go Week one.

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Speaker 6: That's kind of how I feel like it's going to go.

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Speaker 12: I agree, and Tom, you know, you look at Washington

467
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Speaker 12: schedule at the Gate too.

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Speaker 11: It does set up pretty well for a first time starter.

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Speaker 12: At Tampa Bay tough defense, right, but then you got

470
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Speaker 12: the Giants at Cincy that's tough. But then Arizona Cleveland,

471
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Speaker 12: they've got some games in there where he can get

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Speaker 12: his feet wet, especially if they're trying to establish the

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Speaker 12: run game. They've got a defense that's going to keep

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Speaker 12: points down on the other side of the ball.

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Speaker 11: This is going to be an improved football.

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Speaker 12: Team of bald these we just talked about just the

477
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Speaker 12: overall culture change and the new oxygen you out they're

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Speaker 12: breathing out there in loud In County, Virginia.

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Speaker 11: That's a good start.

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Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz can't wait to get after Jaden Daniels like

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Speaker 1: everybody at every other quarterback. But you know that he's looking.

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Speaker 6: He's gonna ready for that.

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Speaker 5: While he just drew up today, baldy Steve, but he's

484
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Speaker 5: gonna start playing with the soup right.

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Speaker 1: Don't move a muscle, guys, We're gonna be back with

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Speaker 1: you in just a little bit. Staying in the NFC East,

487
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Speaker 1: sa Kuan Barkley first look at him in an Eagles

488
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Speaker 1: uniform once he comes out of the dark. Don't worry,

489
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Speaker 1: he's coming towards you. Squint a little bit, you can

490
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Speaker 1: see Saquan he's in there. Meanwhile, another NFC running back,

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Speaker 1: Chewba Hubbard. Happy birthday to Juba, turned twenty five earlier

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Speaker 1: this week. Best president he could get for real this time,

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Speaker 1: he joins our Omar Ruiz.

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Speaker 10: All right, thank you Tom Chuba Hubbard with us. Now, Chuba,

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Speaker 10: you celebrated your twenty fifth birthday this week. What did

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Speaker 10: you do to take a little time for Mini camp

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Speaker 10: to celebrate there.

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Speaker 13: Shoot, man, I just practiced, rested my body and then

499
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Speaker 13: watched some film later that night. But na, I'll enjoy

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Speaker 13: it here next week once we get out of camp.

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Speaker 1: What figures.

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Speaker 10: Dave Canalis, your head coach, said this week that you've

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Speaker 10: been become one of the leaders here in spring and

504
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Speaker 10: OTAs in mini camp. What have you done to catch

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Speaker 10: this coaching staff Sye. Another coach texted me that you're

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Speaker 10: the epitome of what dog mentality means and when you speak,

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Speaker 10: people listen. What have you been able to do to

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Speaker 10: demonstrate that leadership?

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Speaker 9: To be honest, man, I just be myself.

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Speaker 13: I pride myself on being a leader of whether it's

511
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Speaker 13: on the field, whether it's being vocal and any aspect.

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Speaker 13: And you know the thing is on our team we

513
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Speaker 13: need some leaders to step up. Obviously it's been a

514
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Speaker 13: rough few years, but you know, we're looking to get

515
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Speaker 13: things turned around and obviously leadership is the first step.

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Speaker 9: So that's all we that's all we focused on.

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Speaker 10: Have you always been like that or you're feeling like

518
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Speaker 10: you're coming into your own coming off the great year

519
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Speaker 10: you had last year to do that now here in

520
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Speaker 10: year four.

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Speaker 13: No, I mean I've always been like this, man, I've

522
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Speaker 13: always been somewhat vocal when it comes to leading. But

523
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Speaker 13: just something I believe in, man, Just everything we've been

524
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Speaker 13: through here in Carolina the last four years, especially for me,

525
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Speaker 13: I think that's what's going to get us out of here.

526
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Speaker 13: Great leaders and great players, and that's what I pride

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Speaker 13: myself on.

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Speaker 10: I mentioned that great year last year, more than nine

529
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Speaker 10: hundred yards rushing more than eleven hundred scrimmage yards. And

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Speaker 10: then you guys go out and get Robert Hunt and

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Speaker 10: Damian Lewis to fortify the en tier of that offensive line.

532
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Speaker 10: What were you thinking as far as what your goals

533
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Speaker 10: might be in twenty twenty four?

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Speaker 1: Now with that front in front of you there, Yeah.

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Speaker 13: I mean we got a great a bunch of great

536
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Speaker 13: additions as well as a bunch of great guys we

537
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Speaker 13: already had on the old line. So I mean, I

538
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Speaker 13: excited isn't even the word to put to it. But

539
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Speaker 13: I'm definitely blessed and looking forward to what we're going

540
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Speaker 13: to do together. Guys a limit, I don't want to

541
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Speaker 13: speak too much on it. I just want to put

542
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Speaker 13: the work.

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Speaker 10: In I was speaking with coach Canalis earlier this week

544
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Speaker 10: and talking about installing the offense and how they're building

545
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Speaker 10: it from the ground up.

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Speaker 1: But there is some familiarity from what you guys ran

547
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Speaker 1: a little bit last year.

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Speaker 10: How would you say this offense will evolve for the

549
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Speaker 10: Carolina Panthers in twenty four and how will highlight what

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Speaker 10: you guys do?

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Speaker 13: Well, Uh, you know, one of the biggest thing coaches

552
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Speaker 13: said to all of us, and it's just echoed it,

553
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Speaker 13: you know throughout OTAs, is that we're going to run

554
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Speaker 13: the ball.

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Speaker 9: We're going to be a running team.

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Speaker 13: That's gonna be our identity, that's gonna be our culture,

557
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Speaker 13: that's gonna be who we are and not bought into that.

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Speaker 9: I know everybody else is buying into it.

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Speaker 13: And you know that's been a big part of our

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Speaker 13: identity these last few years. So to finally build off

561
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Speaker 13: of it now and build a good base it feels good.

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Speaker 13: I mean, I believe it. It feels genuine. You know,

563
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Speaker 13: he's been doing a great job so far, so I'm excited.

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Speaker 10: Well, good running game would certainly help your second year

565
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Speaker 10: quarterback and Bryce Young what have you seen from him

566
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Speaker 10: this off season? And that suggests to you that he's

567
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Speaker 10: going to have a big year in year two for him.

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Speaker 13: I mean Bryce is a great guy, just to say

569
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Speaker 13: that first, and a great football player. You know, he leads,

570
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Speaker 13: He does everything a quarterback does. Man, he's the pit

571
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Speaker 13: of me of a great quarterback. So the fact that

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Speaker 13: we're able to, you know, put every all to put

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Speaker 13: all the weapons around him, the old line, the receivers,

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Speaker 13: running backs, et cetera. You know, give him a good

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Speaker 13: base to build off of it. It feels good. This

576
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Speaker 13: s guy's a limit for him, So I'm excited to

577
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Speaker 13: see what he does.

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Speaker 10: In true every year we talk in the NFL that

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Speaker 10: there's a team that goes from worse to first and

580
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Speaker 10: wins the division seemingly out of nowhere. What's the case

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Speaker 10: for the Carolina Panthers to win the NFC South in

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Speaker 10: twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 13: To be honest, man, I don't want to talk about

584
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Speaker 13: it too much. In all honesty, I feel like too

585
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Speaker 13: much talking's been done the last few years, and right now.

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Speaker 9: Just got to put in work.

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Speaker 13: And like I said, we got a lot of people

588
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Speaker 13: doubting us, a lot of people saying, you know, it's

589
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Speaker 13: going to be repea to last year or this and that,

590
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Speaker 13: but with just a ton of vision right now, we

591
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Speaker 13: locked in.

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Speaker 9: So that's all that we're focused on.

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Speaker 10: All right, Sure, but we really appreciate your time, man,

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Speaker 10: Thanks for joining. Guys, have a great break here before

595
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Speaker 10: training camp and look forward for an exciting twenty four

596
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Speaker 10: with you.

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Speaker 13: I appreciate you, man, Thank you for the birthday wishes.

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift doesn't never ring yet, but Travis Kelsey's got three.

599
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Speaker 1: How about another one for Travis, not Taylor, maybe both.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it next. On the inside, I'm serious

601
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Speaker 1: bling again for the Kansas City Chiefs. How do they

602
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Speaker 1: go about getting a four to three? Now? Sounds like

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid things. One part of the equation my home

604
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Speaker 1: is showing off that arm.

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Speaker 3: I think it's been cool that we've we've been trying

606
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Speaker 3: like countries back to my old days. He's forcing me

607
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Speaker 3: to push the ball down the field if I don't

608
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Speaker 3: eat those little little jabs at me like oh you

609
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Speaker 3: want to throw the check down here? And I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I'm just like I got you, coach, We're gonna push it.

611
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Speaker 3: And so it's been fun. It's been a great camp.

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Speaker 3: And like I said, I love the competing. I think

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Speaker 3: that's been the biggest thing, is competing both sides of

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Speaker 3: the ball.

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Speaker 9: It's been awesome.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the insiders, Tom Pellacero, Judy Batista and

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Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger. Judy. Interesting to hear Patrick Mahomes talking about

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Speaker 1: throwing the deep ball more you think of some of

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Speaker 1: the biggest highlights in his career, it's wasp going down

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Speaker 1: the field to Tyreek Kill. There's a lot of different

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Speaker 1: things Mahomes can do. When you hear those comments and

622
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Speaker 1: you know all the speed they've amassed on that offense,

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Speaker 1: what do you think, Well.

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Speaker 2: I think we're going to go back and see an

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Speaker 2: offense that maybe looks a little bit more like the

626
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Speaker 2: offense that Patrick Mahomes was running earlier in his career.

627
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Speaker 2: Don't forget the deep ball has been a part of

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Speaker 2: Andy Reid's arsenal, even when Alex Smith was running the offense,

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Speaker 2: and then early in Patrick Mahomes's career.

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Speaker 7: Of course it.

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Speaker 2: Has subsided without Tyreek Hill. But last season, now we

632
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Speaker 2: know well documented the problem with the receivers dropping the ball.

633
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Speaker 2: Last season they were nineteenth in yards per past attempt,

634
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Speaker 2: only six point nine yards per past attempt for Patrick Mahomes,

635
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's just not that much.

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Speaker 7: So you're right.

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Speaker 2: They loaded up on speed Hollywood Brown, and then they

638
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Speaker 2: drafted Xavier Worthy, who, of course is the guy who

639
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Speaker 2: ran the fastest forty times in Combine history. He's been

640
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Speaker 2: a little dinged up this spring, but from all reports,

641
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Speaker 2: Mahomes and Hollywood Brown have already developed a chemistry. And

642
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Speaker 2: the hope is that by going downfield and taking those

643
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Speaker 2: flyers downfield, that will open things up more for Travis

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Speaker 2: Kelce and Rashie Rice.

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Speaker 7: As Rushi Rice comes back for his second year.

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Speaker 6: Judy Andy Reid's m O.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I go back to two thousand and four

648
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Speaker 5: when they signed too, the offense changed. It was bombs

649
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Speaker 5: away and Donald McNatt having his best year ever. They're

650
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Speaker 5: going to get the ball down the field. What I'm

651
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Speaker 5: more excited about is I thought the Chiefs start to

652
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Speaker 5: finish last year was the best defensive football. I know

653
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Speaker 5: the Ravens finished number one, but the Chiefs in eleven

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Speaker 5: of their twenty games last year kept opponents to seventeen

655
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Speaker 5: points or less, and I believe they're gonna be better

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Speaker 5: this year. You get Drew Trankle a year into the system.

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Speaker 5: What a big addition. He was a man who comes

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Speaker 5: back from an injury that he didn't finish the season

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Speaker 5: with last year. Carl Loftis is only getting better and

660
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Speaker 5: nobody has an answer for Stompol Jones in the middle

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Speaker 5: of this defense, and Trek McDuffie is the number one corner,

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Speaker 5: and there's Steve Spagnolo right now drawing up blitzes and

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Speaker 5: ways to affect your quarterback like you see in some

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Speaker 5: of these pictures here. I believe this defense has a

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Speaker 5: chance to be the best defense in football again.

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Speaker 6: Start to finish this year.

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Speaker 5: All these young kids just keep getting better and better,

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Speaker 5: and they've got the horse and the medal in Chris Jones.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes was on hand participating in the Chiefs Mini

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Speaker 1: campus past week. Thirty other teams had their starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: or quarterbacks available for the mandatory mini camp. One team

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Speaker 1: did not. It was the New York Jets. Besides, Gard

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Speaker 1: has heard enough about Aaron Rodgers skipping the mandatory mini camp.

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Speaker 1: This is off of his social media. Are y'all really

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Speaker 1: making a big deal because a fifteen plus year Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback missed two days of practice that they're

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Speaker 1: being with the team all throughout phase one, two, and

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Speaker 1: three of OTA's I don't know if anyone wants fill

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Speaker 1: me in on Gig's what that is. I don't actually know. Baldy,

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Speaker 1: maybe you do. What are your thoughts? You were there,

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Speaker 1: You were at the Jets mini camp the day we

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Speaker 1: found out Aaron Rodgers was there.

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Speaker 5: What do you think is this a big I mean,

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Speaker 5: Sauce was there every single day this offseason. He's the

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Speaker 5: first one on the field every day. And he's not

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Speaker 5: wrong by that statement right there. But I was in

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Speaker 5: that press room when Robert Saala basically said we have

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Speaker 5: two players here with an inexcused absence, Hassan Radick and

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers, and everybody was sort of caught off guard.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't really worded correctly.

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Speaker 5: He had to kind of walk it back like it's

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Speaker 5: just awkward and so well, Sauce isn't wrong. Just the

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Speaker 5: way that they handled it wasn't really the way I

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Speaker 5: think it could have been handled. I think it could

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Speaker 5: have been handled better. They could have been out front

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Speaker 5: of this thing before it ever got to that point

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Speaker 5: on Tuesday with OTAs So and the you know, when

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Speaker 5: they come to training camp, in July, nobody's going to

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Speaker 5: be probably talking about it anymore. But for that day,

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Speaker 5: it was a very awkward field to a team that

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Speaker 5: is just tired of being awkward and they're trying to

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Speaker 5: get things on the right track, and they just didn't

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Speaker 5: finish Mini Camp.

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Speaker 6: I think, on a good note, the way they could.

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Speaker 1: Have I'm down a rabbit hole. In Urban Dictionary now

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Speaker 1: it appears it means something along the lines of good game,

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Speaker 1: which is kind of way of saying, geez, that's what like, geez,

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Speaker 1: you know, okay, get out of here, something like that.

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Speaker 1: I learned a lot while doing this show. Sometimes in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the segment Baldy stick around, you got

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Speaker 1: free agent? Fits some of those big names for us

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Speaker 1: in a little bit here. The Rams, well, they've had

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Speaker 1: to do a lot of different things to try to

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Speaker 1: replace Aaron Donald. How do they fill that void? Our

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Speaker 1: Steve Whites knows that team, well, he'll break it down

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Speaker 1: right after this The Insiders Matthew Stafford the number one

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Speaker 1: pick in the two thousand and nine draft by the Lions,

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Speaker 1: and still not done yet. Aaron Donald went number thirteen

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Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, which means this is the first time

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Speaker 1: since the Rams were in Saint Louis that they've headed

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Speaker 1: into a season without their defensive superstar. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the insiders, Tom Pilicero, alongside Steve White. Steve, you're out

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Speaker 1: there in LA. This is a big tax for the Rams.

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Speaker 1: They also lost their defensive coordinator, Raheem Morris, who's now

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Speaker 1: the Falcons head coach. So rebooting defensively in multiple ways,

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Speaker 1: how do they move forward and still being the same

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Speaker 1: type of defense without Aaron.

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Speaker 12: Donald, Well it won't be. You know, Aaron Donald was

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Speaker 12: the ultimate kingmaker. Look at how many people who've played

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Speaker 12: next to him who've gone on to do great things

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Speaker 12: and make big money.

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Speaker 11: Well he's not there now.

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Speaker 12: So let's see if byron Yall, the defensive who had

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Speaker 12: eight sacks as a rookie last year, or Kobe Turner,

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Speaker 12: who finished third overall in the NFL's Defensive Rookie of

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Speaker 12: the Year, can who had nine sacks at defensive tackle.

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Speaker 12: Let's see if they can continue to develop without the

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Speaker 12: king maker Aaron Donald playing alongside of them. But Tom,

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Speaker 12: as you mentioned, with the change of Chris Schulz to

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Speaker 12: defensive coordinator, there's uncertainty at every level. As they're formulating

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Speaker 12: this roster, especially the secondary. One thing that the Rams did,

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Speaker 12: it's kind of a looked over a free agent move,

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Speaker 12: was a signed Bill's veteran quarterbacker Davius White. Remember twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 12: he led the NFL in interceptions. He's coming off an

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Speaker 12: ACL tear. He was only able to walk through on

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Speaker 12: the back end of the Rams OTAs. But they think

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Speaker 12: eventually by the start of the season, not necessarily training camp,

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Speaker 12: he can factor in with Darius Williams and Kobe Turner

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Speaker 12: at corner. Sean McVay also told me, when it comes

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Speaker 12: to Kobe Turner, the third year player out of South

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Speaker 12: Carolina State.

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Speaker 1: The most improved player on the roster.

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Speaker 12: So that's something that they like about their secondary, which

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Speaker 12: is still a little bit unsettled.

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Speaker 1: That new Rams defense will make its debut September eighth

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Speaker 1: in primetime against Matthew Stafford's old team, the line Steve,

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Judy.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 2: Kalais Campbell joined the Miami Dolphins. He was one of

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Speaker 2: the biggest literally and figuratively free agents still left on

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Speaker 2: the market.

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Speaker 7: Now he is.

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Speaker 2: Going back to where it all began at the University

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Speaker 2: of Miami.

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Speaker 7: He'll be with the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: But Baldy, there's still some big name free agents sitting

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Speaker 2: out there. Let's go through a few of them and

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Speaker 2: you can maybe match them up where they should go.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback Ryan Tannehill, Well.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think Ryan Tannehill did absolutely play.

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Speaker 5: He can help out any of these young quarterbacks that

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Speaker 5: we also got drafted. I think really the best thing

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Speaker 5: for Ryan is to wait for an injury to happen.

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Speaker 5: We saw Joe Burrow get hurt in the first week

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Speaker 5: last year and hobble through the first half of the

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Speaker 5: season with that cap injury. I think Ryan Tannehill can

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Speaker 5: sit back and wait for an opening right now.

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Speaker 6: You know whether it could be in Cleveland.

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Speaker 5: I think any team looking for a veteran quarterback that

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Speaker 5: can learn the assistant pretty quickly. I've been in the

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Speaker 5: film room. Judy is very, very bright. He can adapt quickly.

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Speaker 6: I think that's going to be the best bet for

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Speaker 6: Ryan right now.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to defense. Free safety Justin Simmons.

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Speaker 2: Where should he be.

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Speaker 6: Well, I wouldn't be surprised to see him in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they've signed everybody else you know a high

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Speaker 5: price free agency this offseason. He would get reunited with

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Speaker 5: Vic Fangio. He knows the defense very well. I think

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Speaker 5: it's still a position of need for the Eagles. I

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Speaker 5: think they're still very young in the secondary. He's only

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Speaker 5: thirty years old. He's an elite player. He still has

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Speaker 5: great skills. To Judy, I think Philadelphia would be a

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Speaker 5: great landing spot. Howie Roseman probably has his number on

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Speaker 5: speed dial. They might get the call.

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Speaker 2: All right, Last one wide receiver, Michael Thomas. Where should

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Speaker 2: he go?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, Michael has missed, He's only started twenty

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Speaker 5: games in the last four years. He's got a strong

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Speaker 5: injury history. But if a team like Pittsburgh that's looking

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Speaker 5: for a starter opposite of George Pickens right now, maybe

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Speaker 5: it's Roman Wilson, the rookie. Maybe it's Van Jefferson, but

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Speaker 5: Michael Thomas could fit in there. Maybe it's Buffalo Judy.

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Speaker 5: You know, we'll see how Keon Coleman looks. Khalil Shakir.

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Speaker 5: They signed Curtis Samuel, they signed mc collins, other guys.

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Speaker 5: But you know, Michael Thomas has a resume that's much

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Speaker 5: better than any of those players I just mentioned. So

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Speaker 5: maybe if he's fully healthy, passes a physical looks good.

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Speaker 6: Maybe those are two places that he could land.

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Speaker 7: Baldi.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Baldy. I bet you like summer blockbusters. We all

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Speaker 2: like summer blockbusters. It's the season for a summer blockbuster.

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Speaker 2: When we come back on The Insider, we're going to

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Speaker 2: tell you what stars we are looking forward to watching

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Speaker 2: this summer.

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Speaker 7: Coming up on The Insiders.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to The Insiders. Tom le Sero, Jenni Batista,

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Speaker 1: Steve Whitch, Brian Baldinger. Every weeknight, we're still here with you,

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Speaker 1: but training camp the next time, Judy, we're going to

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Speaker 1: see people on the field. Who's a player you're really

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Speaker 1: excited to see come the end of July.

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Speaker 2: I am really excited to see how Keon Coleman can play.

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Speaker 2: He has been a breath of fresh air, just a

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Speaker 2: delightful presence ever since Draft night. I can't wait to

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Speaker 2: see Keon Coleman with Josh Allen.

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Speaker 5: Judy, I'm looking forward to seeing Steves talking about the

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Speaker 5: Rams and how they're going to rally around the loss

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Speaker 5: of Aaron Downd. They drafted Braydon Fisk from Florida State.

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Speaker 5: At the moment, I watched him play on film and

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Speaker 5: studied and watched him at the See Your Bowl like

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Speaker 5: he's an electric player that just brings a lot of

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Speaker 5: juwe I'm excited to see what the rookie does to

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Speaker 5: tackle for the rams ball.

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Speaker 12: I'm saying the NFC wes you guys who with rookies though,

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Speaker 12: I'm going with Seahawks second year cornerback Devin Witherspoon. I

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Speaker 12: spoke to a coach on their staff and they say

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Speaker 12: what they have seen out of him in Mike McDonald's

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Speaker 12: new defense, he is going to be extra special, someone

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Speaker 12: who could compete for the dp O Y in twenty

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Speaker 12: twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, Michael Pennix Junior. I'm not rooting for chaos.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying Michael Penix comes out like in the

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be very.

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Speaker 6: In one K. I know it, I feel it. Yes,

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 1: I actually am taking a break next week, but we're

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Speaker 1: still gonna be here. The show will be here. Jamal

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Speaker 1: Williams will be on the show, Andrew Berry, the Browns, GM,

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Speaker 1: Marcus Williams, L. Ravens, don't miss anything. Thanks for being here.

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Speaker 1: See it