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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where in the

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Speaker 2: We're happy to at least be getting a double.

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Speaker 1: It's Thursday, April second, and on today show we'll be

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Speaker 1: chatting with Olympic gold medalist and senior Director of New

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Speaker 1: Media for the PWHL, Tessa Bonham, plus our partner in crime,

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Speaker 1: director of new Media for the PWHL, Julia to Sherry.

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Speaker 1: Together they're the duo behind the Jock's In Jill's podcast,

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Speaker 1: we discuss the white hot Boston Fleet expansion struggles, how

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Speaker 1: the Olympics have impacted this third season of the league,

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Speaker 1: and if the PWHL might soon be playing in a

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Speaker 1: town near you. Plus everybody's headed to Phoenix. A few

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Speaker 1: LinkedIn profiles just removed their open to work badges and

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Speaker 1: now's the time to pull out that perfect ten.

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Speaker 2: It's all coming up right after this. Welcome back, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Here's what you need to know today, Starting with hoops.

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Speaker 1: You already know the main event going down in Phoenix

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Speaker 1: this weekend. Definitely lots more on that in tomorrow show,

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Speaker 1: but the senior national team will also be in Phoenix

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Speaker 1: this weekend. Team USA is holding a training camp during

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Speaker 1: the NCAA Final Four, and there are some key roster

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Speaker 1: changes from last month's FOBA tournament. First, let's start with

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Speaker 1: who's out. Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese, Kelsey Plumb, Ryan Howard,

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Speaker 1: and Chelsea Gray will not be in camp this time around,

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Speaker 1: leaving Paige Beckers as the lone player to be part

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Speaker 1: of all three camps during this cycle. So there's room

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Speaker 1: for a whole bunch of national team players from previous

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Speaker 1: Ifisa Collier, marking their first training camp call up during

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Speaker 1: Kara Lawson's tenure as head coach. According to reporting from

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Speaker 1: The Athletic Collier will remain on the sidelines, though after

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Speaker 1: having surgery on both her ankles at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: this year. WNBA players Sabrini and Escu, Steph Dolson, Asray Stevens,

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Speaker 1: and Britney Sikes will also return to the national team

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Speaker 1: for camp, and making her senior team training camp debut,

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Speaker 1: will be Friend of the Show and rising NCAA junior

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Speaker 2: To soccer where.

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Speaker 1: US women's national team head coach Emma Hayes has named

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Speaker 1: her roster for three upcoming friendlies against Japan. The group

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Speaker 1: is headlined by the return of Sophia Wilson and Tierna Davidson.

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Speaker 1: Wilson returns to the national team for the first time

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Speaker 1: since late twenty twenty four. She spent twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: tearing her acl last April and missing the rest of

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Speaker 1: the year. In a press conference on Wednesday, Hayes said

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Speaker 1: both players will be on a minute's restriction in the

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Speaker 1: upcoming friendlies. Other members of the roster include Ali sent

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Speaker 1: We'll link to the full roster in the show notes

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Speaker 1: along with the schedule for the upcoming friendlies to the NWSL,

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Speaker 1: where the front office as a couple of new faces.

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Speaker 1: On Wednesday, the league announced Brian Kelly as the new

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Speaker 1: Chief Commercial Officer and Rachel Epstein as Chief Marketing Officer.

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Speaker 1: The league had been operating without either role since Julie

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Speaker 1: press release, Commissioner Jessica Berman said, the new hires come

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Speaker 1: quote as we enter a pivotal next phase of growth

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Speaker 1: Kelly joins the NWSL from Top Rank Boxing, where he

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Speaker 1: team that launched the now defunct Women's Professional Soccer League

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Speaker 1: Working with Rachel for fourteen plus years at espnW, and

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Speaker 1: this league reach new heights, pumped for her, pumped for

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Speaker 1: Now remember, the Connecticut Sun is going to play one

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Speaker 1: After this weekend's first two rounds, the semi finals start

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Speaker 1: April sixteenth, and the finals are on the eighteenth. We'll

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Speaker 2: We're going to take a break. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: Well, less than a month left in the right regular season,

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Speaker 1: Boston has already clinched a playoff spot, while expansion teams

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Speaker 1: bottom of the standings. I caught up with Tessa Bonham

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Speaker 1: She's won half of the jocks in Jill's podcast and

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Speaker 1: the senior director of New Media for the PWHL. A

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Speaker 2: It's Tessa Bonham. Hi, Tessa, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: What's up. Awesome to be here again.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me joining her the other half of

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Speaker 1: the Jocks in Jill's podcast and the director of New

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Speaker 1: also put in her time at TSN. She sipped from

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Speaker 2: She's short, but her feet are met for someone who's

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Speaker 2: six feet tall. It's Julia Jo's sherry that is so awesome.

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Speaker 4: It's an upgrade from last time when my historical interpreter

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Speaker 1: Yes, we did do a deep dive on your historical

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Speaker 2: Got update my LinkedIn. I'm such a joke on linked

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Speaker 2: please keep it there. But so good, Lise.

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Speaker 1: It's such a fascinating thing that four years, four years

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Speaker 4: It was longer than that, Sarah, it was more summers

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Speaker 4: than that. When I was first in intern at TSN,

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Speaker 4: in my last summer as Annabelle on the farm.

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Speaker 2: And he was so understanding that we learned a lot

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Speaker 1: We also learned about Jill's the pelvic protectors from hockey players.

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Speaker 1: We helped people understand the jocks in Jill's name of

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Speaker 1: This time, we're coming to for a thorough rundown of

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Speaker 1: all things Pete WHL as we ever closer to the

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Speaker 1: postseason of this third season of.

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Speaker 2: The league and Juliet.

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Speaker 1: Before we even get into the nitty gritty, I kind

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Speaker 4: I think that my season summary would be that this

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Speaker 4: that gold medal game against Canada when like nothing was

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Speaker 1: And that's I think a through line from last year's finals,

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Speaker 1: the Olympics, not just Aaron Frankel's dominance. We've got players

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I disrupted oftentimes has like a negative connotation.

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Speaker 5: But the thing that I love about this league is

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Speaker 4: Exactly. You guys need some merch. Everybody needs merch. So

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Speaker 4: side while we're talking about the expansion teams and their

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Speaker 4: struggles on the ice, But just really positive news for

441
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Speaker 4: the league and for women's hockey that even though the

442
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,080
Speaker 4: results haven't been what Seattle and Vancouver are looking for

443
00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,080
Speaker 4: off the ice, they've strengthened the league in a really

444
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Speaker 4: meaningful way.

445
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Speaker 2: And how many people they bring in the doors each night.

446
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we weren't surprised, by any means by any of that,

447
00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,080
Speaker 5: because we went to the Takeover Tour games when they

448
00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,800
Speaker 5: were there and we were like, holy smokes, like this

449
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:22,560
Speaker 5: is wicked.

450
00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,280
Speaker 2: Two of the coolest buildings in the league.

451
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Seattle with the twin jembotrons, I've never seen that

452
00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,080
Speaker 4: in my life. And then Vancouver being the only team

453
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Speaker 4: with a primary venue is just so cool to see

454
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Speaker 4: that logo at Center Ice. Anyways, that's my that's my

455
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Speaker 4: speech of the day.

456
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Speaker 1: Yeah, here's hoping the play will help them in the

457
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Speaker 1: future to keep those fans. You know, we're going to

458
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Speaker 1: get to expansion and some changes later. But real quick, Tess,

459
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Speaker 1: what did you mean by not sure what the draft

460
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Speaker 1: is going to look like this year? Is that just

461
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Speaker 1: you mean based on expansion and number of teams or otherwise.

462
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Speaker 2: All of that?

463
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Speaker 5: Just number of teams and then how draft order will go,

464
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Speaker 5: like where the expansion teams will draft, because I'm not

465
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Speaker 5: I have no idea.

466
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Speaker 2: Nobody knows yet, Julie. Let's talk New York Sirens.

467
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,239
Speaker 1: Not an expansion team, and yet they're mucking it up

468
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 1: kind of near the bottom of the table with those

469
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Speaker 1: new squads. They missed the playoffs in both of the

470
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Speaker 1: league's first two seasons. And they've got this big talent.

471
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Speaker 1: You know, They've got twenty twenty five Rookie of the

472
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Speaker 1: Year Sarah Philier. They've got this season's first overall draft

473
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Speaker 1: pick in Christina coulton Kova. What is holding this team

474
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Speaker 1: back yet again this season?

475
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 2: Oh themselves? Is that a weird answer?

476
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Speaker 4: Like, the New York Sirens have so much talent and

477
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Speaker 4: so much youth.

478
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Speaker 2: And I think the other thing that.

479
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Speaker 4: Like, it's really hard to make the playoffs this year,

480
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Speaker 4: like the league has added two more teams and no

481
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Speaker 4: more playoff spots, So half of this league is going

482
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 4: to be very disappointed when they do not punch their

483
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 4: ticket to the postseason, which is very sad to me

484
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 4: because New York has made so many strides, like they

485
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,159
Speaker 4: pretty much did a full rebuild over the course of

486
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Speaker 4: a summer last year. Their marquee players were players like

487
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Speaker 4: Ella Shelton, players like Alex Carpenter who are on the

488
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Speaker 4: Torrent and the Scepters respectively now and are no longer

489
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Speaker 4: part of that team. At the draft last year, they

490
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,199
Speaker 4: made money moves. They got the first overall pick in

491
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Speaker 4: Calton Kova, who has been excellent but just got placed

492
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Speaker 4: on LCIR. So you can add injuries to the mix

493
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Speaker 4: for New York as well as something that's hindered them

494
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Speaker 4: all season long, because they've been without SIRA affiliate points,

495
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Speaker 4: they've been out without they've been without Casey O'Brien, who

496
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Speaker 4: they took third overall when they traded up for that

497
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Speaker 4: pick with Toronto. So New York I don't want to

498
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Speaker 4: criticize New York so much because they have made so

499
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Speaker 4: many strides this year and they're still a really young

500
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Speaker 4: team and that youth has been really exciting. And I

501
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Speaker 4: still am not counting them totally out of it. They

502
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Speaker 4: are at that twenty seven point mark as well, right

503
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Speaker 4: there with the Vancouver Golden Eyes. There are two regulation

504
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Speaker 4: wins away from potentially being in a playoff spot.

505
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Speaker 2: So I the Sirens could be a sneaky team to

506
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Speaker 2: get in last second.

507
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Speaker 4: They're scrappy and they're young, and they've seen the improvement

508
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Speaker 4: that I think that they were hoping to see this season.

509
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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's like a maturity to the game that's just

510
00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 5: lacking there a little bit for them. And it's to

511
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 5: be ecs because you can play top level collegiate hockey

512
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 5: totally awesome, but you come into this league and it's

513
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 5: much different. Everybody's played that top level and we're adding

514
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 5: body contact now right, the physicality of the game is

515
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 5: a little bit of a shocker. Some of them welcome it, obviously,

516
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 5: but now you're playing an extended season where every game

517
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 5: you're getting a run through the wall at least once

518
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,719
Speaker 5: a game. So and then you got to figure out

519
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 5: how to make plays. I feel so bad for the

520
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 5: wingers in this league that come in and are young,

521
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 5: because like now you got to not only worry about

522
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 5: how to make a play on the boards, but you

523
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 5: also have to protect yourself and the puck, and you

524
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 5: don't want to deliver a pizza up the middle to

525
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Speaker 5: the other team, which we've seen happen sometimes. So I

526
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 5: think there's just a little bit of maturity. But like

527
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Speaker 5: Julia said, their growth throughout this season has been great.

528
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 5: It's just unfortunate they lost one of their top players

529
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 5: in calton Kova right now, who's on the LTIR.

530
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Speaker 1: So remind me the Olympics is slightly less allowed contact

531
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Speaker 1: than the PWHL.

532
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 2: P WHL's pushing it a little bit, a lot of bit,

533
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Speaker 2: a lot of bit.

534
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah.

535
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 5: Usually back when I played, it was really frustrating because

536
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 5: we would train very in the off season to make

537
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Speaker 5: sure we are as strong as possible, and sometimes other

538
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 5: countries weren't there yet physically where we were, and it

539
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,679
Speaker 5: would be like, okay, well I'm just stronger than them.

540
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 5: They just fell like there's a difference, whereas I felt

541
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Speaker 5: this Olympics, Julia, we even said we were like they're

542
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Speaker 5: allowing a lot more at this international tournament, So I

543
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 5: feel like they let them play a lot more, probably

544
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 5: to the requests, from the request of the players, I'm

545
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 5: going to assume.

546
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Speaker 1: So just in the women's game, moving a little bit more,

547
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: you're never going to get the full checking.

548
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 2: Like on the men's side.

549
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll be keeping more teeth on the women's side,

550
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Speaker 1: but you are allowing a little more physical I want

551
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 1: to ask about the injuries quickly, and I do want

552
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Speaker 1: to move on to some of the other teams. But

553
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Speaker 1: is it just the amount of hockey being played between

554
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: the Olympics and in a professional season more so than

555
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 1: ever before, plus maybe the contact or is there no

556
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: injury issue. It's just professional sports and people get hurt

557
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 1: because it does seem like a lot of storylines for

558
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: a lot of teams are missing a lot of big players.

559
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Speaker 5: It's a four year cycle, and when you're two years

560
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 5: out from an Olympics, you're going to play through a

561
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 5: lot of things. If you didn't nip it in the

562
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 5: butt right away. So if it was something that you

563
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 5: could kind of tape together and hold together and still

564
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 5: play good hockey, you will, and you'll grind through two

565
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 5: seasons to make it to the Olympics and play.

566
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Speaker 2: You want to earn that spot.

567
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 5: Because you're not waiting another four to get there, right, Yeah,

568
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 5: because it's a four year training block. So did you

569
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Speaker 5: just train four years to kind of pull the shoot

570
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 5: on something and so now it's going to be an

571
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 5: eight year training block. No way, no, how, Like, no

572
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Speaker 5: one's doing that. That's why Hillary kept playing. All the

573
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,959
Speaker 5: teammates said, we knew how bad it was, and she

574
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 5: was still going out there.

575
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Speaker 2: That makes sense.

576
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: So now they're saying, Okay, post Olympic, let's actually give

577
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Speaker 1: our body break if it needs it because it's got

578
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: some time.

579
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Speaker 2: That makes sense.

580
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, now because this is their career. So now it's

581
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 5: not like, well like I don't have to play because

582
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 5: I only have four years down the road, or I

583
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 5: can still play because I have a four year weight

584
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 5: And it's like no, no, no, no, no, you have

585
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 5: one can you make it back for playoffs? And two

586
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 5: you have the rest of your career to worry about.

587
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 5: You can't have this linger. So it's kind of cool.

588
00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:58,719
Speaker 3: I like it.

589
00:24:58,840 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

590
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: Let's skip to the top of the standings and the

591
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: Boston Fleet. They're in first place as we're recording this

592
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: with fifty one points. After making the finals in year one,

593
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: they missed the postseason on a tie breaker last year,

594
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: and then they left Hillary Knight unprotected in the expansion draft,

595
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: which was an absolute shocker of a move, and it

596
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: paid off.

597
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 2: Tesla. What's made Boston so good this year?

598
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if it paid like well.

599
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: I mean not that the direct link to their success

600
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Speaker 1: is letting her go, but it's just wild that we

601
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: were like, that was stupid, good luck now, and then

602
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, you're in first yeah.

603
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, right.

604
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 5: I think that message to the team kind of might

605
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 5: have been like, well, we believe in all of you

606
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 5: that you can fill that void and it's not going

607
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 5: to be one person, it's going to be all of you,

608
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 5: which is nice.

609
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Speaker 3: I think the coaching change.

610
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Speaker 5: That took place Chris Bars had this group playing a

611
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 5: very structured, systematic style of play that they're doing to perfection.

612
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 5: Julie and I would have been commenting since the beginning

613
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Speaker 5: of the season. Aaron Frankel has won them probably nine

614
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 5: to nine point nine percent of their games. They've majority

615
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 5: have been one goal games, which are very tight playoff

616
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 5: style hockey. Our concern for them was can they score?

617
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 5: And the second we started chirping them scoring, they went

618
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 5: out and scored four goals two games in a row.

619
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Speaker 5: So I don't know what to say about Boston anymore

620
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 5: except you guys just keep doing you because we're going

621
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 5: to keep our comments to our selves and watch y'all

622
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 5: take this league by storm. But it has been a

623
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 5: nice coming of age for Boston because, like you said,

624
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 5: year one, they made it all the way to the

625
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,959
Speaker 5: Walter Cup Final Game five and lost it to Minnesota.

626
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 3: And then last year they played probably their worst.

627
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 5: Game in the game that they needed the most, the

628
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 5: last game of the year, and it was just a

629
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 5: flop for them to and then they ended up missing

630
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 5: the playoffs. So it's nice to see them come back

631
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 5: with a vengeance. I have picked them to win the

632
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 5: past two years in a row, so if they could

633
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 5: just make me right in the past finally, it would

634
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 5: be nice. But they're team to be messed with right now.

635
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 2: That's not how predictions work, Tessa.

636
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: I know you mentioned Aaron Frankel, first goaltender in PWHL

637
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: history to have three straight shoutouts. She's got seven shutouts

638
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: this season, which is more than any goaltender has recorded

639
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: in their career, and she's up to nine all time,

640
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: so she is absolutely a brick wall back there, the

641
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: Green Monster as they call her out in Boston. Let's

642
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: talk about the Montreal Victoire because this has sort of

643
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: been the team riding in that.

644
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, they've got it. This team can't be beat,

645
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: and they can be beat, and.

646
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: They have been beat in the semi finals twers in

647
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: a row. So we're recording this Wednesday afternoon. They can

648
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: clinch a playoff spot tonight. The Minnesota Froscin clinches early

649
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: as Saturday, so we've got these two teams in the

650
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: second and third positions. Juliet feels like the Victoire's regular

651
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: season record means almost nothing. They top the standings last year,

652
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: but second straight season they lose in the semi So

653
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: who really cares if you won the regular season.

654
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: This is a team that wants more.

655
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: Am I wrong in thinking that this season is sort

656
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: of a lost one without a win or maybe at

657
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: least a runner up in the finals.

658
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 4: If you asked the players on the Victoire, they would

659
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 4: tell you that. So you're one hundred percent correct, and honestly, Sarah,

660
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 4: you asked these questions perfectly because Tessa picks Boston twin

661
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 4: and has picked Boston twed and I picked Montreal this

662
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 4: year to waking as a nice job on that. Yeah,

663
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 4: I think especially I think Marie Felley Pulaan wants her

664
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 4: chip in this league as she should. She's a winner,

665
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 4: she wins everywhere she goes. And speaking of chips, I

666
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 4: think the Olympics would add to that fire even more

667
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 4: tough to see her struggle with injuries this year, and

668
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 4: that might factor in as well. But like if any

669
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 4: player we saw the way Hillary Knight got it out

670
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 4: at the Olympics, I think Polan's done the same thing

671
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 4: at different points, like she's not scared to play through

672
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 4: tough situations as well, and Tessa's earlier point, the thing

673
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 4: that Montreal has always struggled with in the postseason is

674
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 4: throwing Aaron Ambrose on the ice for thirty five minutes

675
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,479
Speaker 4: or an hour or something when they're in double overtime.

676
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 2: Didn't you play sixty minutes when it was triple overtime? Crazy?

677
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 4: Like that's sixty minutes of ice time logs, Marray Feley

678
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 4: Pulan playing like forty in those games, so that was

679
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: that was just not sustainable, and then they'd have like

680
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 4: a fourth line that you didn't see at all. Now

681
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 4: they have a third and fourth line that you see

682
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 4: and that contributes, and they've had to step up. Tessa

683
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 4: mentioned all the work that they did during that Olympic break.

684
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: I think Abby Rock brings a lot.

685
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 4: Too, because I think sometimes that that lineup, like playing

686
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 4: with a goat, is probably hard. I have no experience

687
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 4: with it, but I think that there's a lot of

688
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 4: pressure that comes with playing with the goat. I think

689
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 4: sometimes you see girls grip their sticks a little bit

690
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 4: tighter when they look over at Pule and they're like,

691
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, her legacy is kind of like involved

692
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 4: with me right now, and I want to do the

693
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 4: right things.

694
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: Or they're like you got this right, no, no, I

695
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: need your help. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

696
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 4: So I think the girls and I think Abby Rock

697
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 4: brings a little bit of levity in that, like shell

698
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 4: chir Pooh and like.

699
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: Make suir pookem out of.

700
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 5: Her skin a little bit too, Like well, and I'm

701
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 5: glad you touched on that, Julia, because in years past,

702
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 5: you know, Poo's a competitor and like a very very

703
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 5: highly competitive human being, and I mean more than your

704
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 5: average goat. Like she detests losing and wants to win

705
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 5: so bad like no one I've ever met before. And

706
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 5: she carries it and she wears it sometimes when she's

707
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 5: out there and we've.

708
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: Been made too even like it radiates off of her.

709
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, someone's going to lighten the mood. Enter Aby Rock.

710
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 3: We're like, this is going to be great.

711
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 5: This is even be great for the bench for everyone around,

712
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 5: and it'll be great for Pooh too, you know, just

713
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 5: to remind her like, don't worry, we got this.

714
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do we have any idea of when she might

715
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: be back?

716
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 5: I wish, I wish I could tell you tomorrow.

717
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we saw we saw Hillary Knight and Kettle

718
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: Cooin Schofield come back, but we're still waiting, still waiting

719
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: on Pullin.

720
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: We had zero indication of that.

721
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: No, just all of a sudden, I message Chillery before

722
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: the Takeover game in Chicago, and I was like.

723
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: Are you going to be out here at least? Are

724
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: you getting close? And she was like no, sadly not

725
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: going to make it out.

726
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,959
Speaker 1: There, And then like the two games later, I'm like, oh, okay,

727
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: now you're available It's.

728
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 5: Like her and Coiner, we're texting each other like, Hey,

729
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 5: you want to come back now?

730
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

731
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, Well let's talk about the Frost because they're

732
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: probably the team that cares the least about regular season standings.

733
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: Fourth place back to back years one.

734
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: It all from the bottom both times, so they're sitting

735
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: in third right now. What are you seeing from the Frost, Tessa, Consistency?

736
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 5: I think outside of that that gaming against was it Montreal, Julia,

737
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 5: where Montreal just routed them. They're just a consistent wave

738
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 5: of attack and they understand their system and what ken

739
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 5: Clee wants from them, and they go out and they're

740
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 5: a confident group because he just breathes that into them.

741
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 5: They've got two goaltenders who have been there and won that.

742
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 5: They've got Kelly Panic in the middle of the ice,

743
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 5: who is having herself a hell of a season. Julia

744
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 5: and I always joke that, like, we never see Kelly

745
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 5: Panic have a bad game, and she's a beast in

746
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 5: the dot, Like she'll win face offs, which is incredibly

747
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 5: important because to start every face off with possession is

748
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 5: huge and with the team that has that much fiery offense, like,

749
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 5: it's tough to get the puck back, and I guess

750
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 5: we can go there and talk about league leaders in offense,

751
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 5: like you want to talk about league leading point there's

752
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 5: top three league leaders in points are from the Frost

753
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 5: Panics leading in goals, Heisi's leading in assists.

754
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,479
Speaker 3: Followed by Curl Like.

755
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 5: They are just all over the league leading statistics that

756
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 5: it's like, well, no, you can't turn your eye on

757
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 5: them or ever take them lightly. And they have this

758
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 5: I don't want to say swagger, we'll call it swagger,

759
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 5: but it's like a confidence, not arrogance, a confidence. And

760
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 5: I've told this story before where I was in Toronto.

761
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 5: I brought my daughter down to say hi to Taylor Heisi,

762
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 5: and a Toronto Scepters fan walked by and said, there's

763
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 5: no way the Frost are going to go back to

764
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 5: back to back this year. And I turned and I'm like,

765
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 5: do not?

766
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: Why would you see that? And Heisei laughed it off

767
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 3: and she was just like you just wait, we'll show you.

768
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: And I was like, this is it great?

769
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: Now?

770
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: You just screwed my pick in Boston.

771
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: They don't need this, they don't need bulletin board material. Yeah,

772
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: they've already got enough swagger.

773
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 5: Seriously, but it's just waves of offense. But they don't

774
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 5: forget about their defense. They are very responsible in that sense,

775
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 5: and their forwards aren't just players that produce points, they're

776
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 5: players that contribute in the D zone as well. So

777
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 5: they're going to be a tough team to take down.

778
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 5: And I love that you mentioned the standings that they

779
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 5: were in fourth place both times. The first year they

780
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 5: were chosen by Toronto to play against, which is tough.

781
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 5: So as much as Boston's like, yeah, we're sitting pretty

782
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 5: in first place, it never works out for the first

783
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 5: place team to pick their opponent. So that's where you

784
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 5: kind of started gritting your teeth.

785
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: Speaking of bulletin board material, Yeah seriously.

786
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, for those who don't remember, the PWHL actually allows

787
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: the top seeds to pick who they'll play. And you know,

788
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: then you're immediately giving your opponent this chip on their

789
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: shoulder of like, oh, you think we're the easiest to

790
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: go through, We'll show you.

791
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: It's a couple more things.

792
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: I know we're running out of time here, but middle

793
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: of the pack battling for the fourth and final playoff

794
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: spot right now, it's the charge in the Scepters. Any

795
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: major storylines that stick out to you for these two teams.

796
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: Julia, you just never know what the Ottawa Charge, do you.

797
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 4: And when they've got Gwen with Phillips, who to your

798
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 4: earlier point, who was Playoff MVP last year, Like she

799
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 4: just plays like such a monster. And Tessa mentioned the

800
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 4: combo of Rebecca Leslie and Brian Jenner, Like Rebecca Leslie

801
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 4: has turned a lot of heads in the second half

802
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 4: of the season and even before ye like she was

803
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 4: great to start the year, she didn't get a sniff

804
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 4: at all with Team Canada. And she has just been

805
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 4: so dominant for the Ottawa Charge, getting overtime winners and

806
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 4: game winning goals for them, and being from the city

807
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 4: of Ottawa, like she's the mayor of the city right now.

808
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: And as for the Scepters, like.

809
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 4: They just continue to be the Scepters, they're so unpredictable.

810
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 4: One game it's like, Okay, this is Toronto, this is

811
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 4: the game that they want to give us, and then

812
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 4: right after that it just is a totally different team

813
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 4: that comes out so hard for them to find any consistency.

814
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 4: That's usually our criticism of the Ottawa Charge, but the

815
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 4: Ottawa Charge just proved that they when they lock in

816
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 4: for the playoffs like they did last year, they're a tough.

817
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: Team to be.

818
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: Each of those four finals games went to overtime. They

819
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: lost to the Frost and the Finals, so they're hungry

820
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 1: to get back and prove.

821
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: That they were this close.

822
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: I was listening to your show and the PWHL trade

823
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: deadline just passed. You were talking about it and Tessa,

824
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: I was unaware that teams can't trade draft picks yet

825
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: gotta be one for one deal. So now that I

826
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: think about it, that's how the trades in the league

827
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: have gone.

828
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: But it never occurred to me that.

829
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: They weren't able to trade future picks. What's that rule

830
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 1: and is it expected to change anytime?

831
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 5: I would eventually expect it to change, But with expansion looming,

832
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 5: I don't think you can trade picks because you don't.

833
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: Know where Nobody knows where the picks.

834
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 5: Are, where the picks are, right, you don't know what

835
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 5: you have or or that.

836
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,959
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's why the rule is that way, because

837
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: they've been planning for expansion in advance.

838
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: Correct.

839
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think once they finally hit the number

840
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 5: of teams that they're comfortable with and we'll sit at

841
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 5: for an extended period of time. I think maybe then

842
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 5: it will be introduced, but as of right now, it's

843
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 5: it's hard. It's basically a one for one trade and

844
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 5: it's got to work out for both teams. And we

845
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 5: kind of saw it, I mean with Denisa Koshova right

846
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 5: going over, we heard from Melissa Cruso GM of the

847
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 5: Minnesota Frost that you know, she kind of got buried

848
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 5: in their lineup because their lineup is so offensively gifted

849
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 5: that they felt like they kind of owed it to

850
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 5: her a little bit, and they knew they were going

851
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 5: to have to give something up to get Jinc Rose,

852
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 5: who's a defender that kind of bolsters their back end

853
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 5: now to just get you scratch in your head like, okay,

854
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 5: this is going to happen again.

855
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to be tough to beat back there.

856
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 5: Right, But I mean it kind of makes it fun

857
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 5: in a sense, like this is the team you picked.

858
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 3: Figure it out, like go to work, learn to battle.

859
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 5: You can't win one way, there's a million ways to

860
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 5: win if that system's not work and fix something. So

861
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 5: it kind of puts responsibility on the coaching staff as well,

862
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 5: which I really really like.

863
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: Let's talk expansion quickly because you mentioned it, Tessa. I

864
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: was in attendance for the most recent Chicago Takeover Tour

865
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 1: game helped the league pass two million fans that night,

866
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: incredible accomplishment.

867
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: Chicago among the.

868
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: Cities rumored to be in the mix for an expansion team.

869
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: What are you hearing, Tess about where the league might

870
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: be headed next and when?

871
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: And how many more?

872
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 5: Can I just say that I would love it to

873
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 5: be in Chicago. I love Chicago as a city. I

874
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 5: almost moved there years back. I think what the.

875
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: Way the league chooses is there.

876
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 5: Has to be a good venue, the scheduling has to

877
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Speaker 5: work out, the city has to be hockey hungry, which

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Speaker 5: obviously Chicago is. I have no insight, but my guess

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Speaker 5: would be one American, one Canadian, just because it makes sense.

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Speaker 5: I think you're going to have to pull teams more

881
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Speaker 5: west because right now you just have Vancouver and Seattle

882
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Speaker 5: kind of hanging out there on their own. So maybe

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Speaker 5: something central would be nice. I know Denver's making a

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Speaker 5: really big push. They were the ones that initially started

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Speaker 5: the chant we want a team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they've had better showings than Chicago in terms

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Speaker 1: of attendance for the takeover tour stuff. Chicago's a tough

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Speaker 1: one in terms of venues and there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: teams too. Breaking through marketing wise is always hard.

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Speaker 3: That's just it.

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Speaker 5: But PWHL is such a different experience. If you will,

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Speaker 5: you've been to the games, I'm sure you can talk

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Speaker 5: to it. But Detroit also has showed up and showed

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Speaker 5: out in Halifax on the East coast in Canada. I

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Speaker 5: mean they blew the top off of that thing twice.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for telling me where Halifax is, so I

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Speaker 2: did not know. No, I would have been like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: is that on the west? Okay, that's the East. I'm

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Speaker 2: still learning Canada. I'm working on Sarah. It's awesome. Oh

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Speaker 2: I love Canada, but I've never been to Halifax.

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Speaker 4: I need to get Halifax is like the most Canada

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Speaker 4: Canada could get.

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Speaker 2: It turns up the Canada.

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Speaker 3: Dial perfect, Yeah, let us know when you go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, there's just too much to do.

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Speaker 1: And then this whole Daily Show thing really gets in

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Speaker 1: the way of me traveling just to go hang out

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Speaker 1: with my friends at sporting events, which I'm.

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Speaker 2: Trying to do.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of this weekend, Sirens and Torrent at Madison Square Garden,

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Speaker 1: a sold out takeover tour game, one of the most

912
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Speaker 1: famous arenas on the planet, set to yet again, for

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Speaker 1: like the seventh time this league has done it break

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Speaker 1: the US attendance record for a professional women's hockey game.

915
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Speaker 1: I think the fourth time this season alone that they're

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Speaker 1: going to break that record. Julia, You're going to be there.

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Speaker 2: What are you most excited about for this one? Oh?

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Speaker 4: I just can't, Like personally, I mentioned I've never been

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Speaker 4: to Madison Square Garden.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of a dump, I've heard now, but it

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Speaker 2: has a lot of history, kind of a card.

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Speaker 4: I've been to a couple of rigs that were like

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Speaker 4: designed after Madison Square Garden, like they copied the roof

924
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Speaker 4: for something to that effects. I'm excited to see the

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Speaker 4: original one. And I'm excited for Like I know they

926
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Speaker 4: play the Prudential and the numbers have been up there

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Speaker 4: recently nine thousand people after the Olympics on a on

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Speaker 4: a regular game night, which was so awesome for the

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Speaker 4: For the Sirens, I'm so excited for this to be

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Speaker 4: right on Broadway where it deserves to be, Like it

931
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Speaker 4: is a show. They're not just games. It is a

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Speaker 4: production that happens. It is a traveling circus, and I'm

933
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Speaker 4: excited for it to be under the Broadway lights. And

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Speaker 4: I'm excited for all those Sirens players to get to

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Speaker 4: experience that, specifically Casey O'Brien, who told us on the

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Speaker 4: podcast about growing up in Manhattan and going down to

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Speaker 4: Chelsea Piers to learn how to skate, for her to

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Speaker 4: be able to be at MSG and play on that

939
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Speaker 4: ice like where she grew up, learning the game in

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Speaker 4: such a different way than Tessa and I experienced, and

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Speaker 4: I think in a really different way than a lot

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Speaker 4: of traditional hockey.

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Speaker 2: Fans have experienced. I think it's really full circle. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna be really cool.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm excited for Julia to discover that there

946
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Speaker 5: is actually a club up in the corner in MSG's

947
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Speaker 5: a tow up there?

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Speaker 3: Is it still there?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I don't know. We'll have to find out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm quite sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I'm going back to Soul Cycle too, which I'm very

952
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 4: excited about. Nice terms of the other NYC sites.

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Speaker 1: I got to experience the Sirens fans in person, and

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Speaker 1: I never had occurred to me that their cheer, of course.

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Speaker 2: Would be like a siren. I was confused at first.

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Speaker 4: Dude, New York Sirens fans are the absolute best. They

957
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Speaker 4: have the most niche fan culture. They call themselves the

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Speaker 4: Pizza Rats. They wear their Sirens hats like they are

959
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Speaker 4: the most dedicated group of fans.

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Speaker 2: They are so cool.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm hoping all the casuals that get to MSG

962
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Speaker 1: for that one spot the diehards and they want in

963
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Speaker 1: on that because that's how the community grows, and it

964
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Speaker 1: also grows because your show y'all are the best. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for coming on helping catch us up

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Speaker 1: on all things PWHL as we head into the crunch

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Speaker 1: time of the season.

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Speaker 2: This was so much fun. Appreciate you, Sarah, You're the best.

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Speaker 5: We appreciate you. Thanks Sarah.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again to Test and Julia for taking the time.

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Speaker 1: We have to take another break when we return. I've

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Speaker 1: got a Golden tickt. I've got a golden tick it.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, Slice. We love that you're listening, but we

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Speaker 2: want you to get in the game every day too.

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Speaker 2: So here's our good game play of the day.

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Speaker 1: Now that you're all caught up on where the teams

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Speaker 1: stand heading into the last month of regular season play.

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Speaker 2: Actually, go watch the PWHL games.

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Speaker 1: You can stream them for free on YouTube in the US,

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00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: and our Maple Bacon slices up in Canada can watch

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Speaker 1: on TSN and CBC. Also, go listen to Tessa and

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Speaker 1: Julia's podcast Jocks and Jill's.

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Speaker 2: We'll link to the latest episode in the show notes.

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Speaker 2: Oh and one more thing.

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Speaker 1: My apologies for incorrectly shouting out Coach Fenn aka Mary

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Speaker 1: Fendley in yesterday's show. She's tied for second in our

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Speaker 1: is a cute name. Mary wrote in to say, make

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Speaker 1: sure you get it right when I win on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I love the confidence, my kind of gal. We always

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Speaker 2: Though it's no surprise.

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Speaker 1: That Kennedy would be selected in the draft, it's always

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Speaker 2: We're awaiting them after the game. We'll link to that

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Speaker 1: Now it's your turn, y'all rate and review. Thanks for listening,

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Speaker 1: See you tomorrow. Good game, Tessa, good game, Julia, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: How hockey always just says upper body or lower body injury?

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