1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're still 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: holding out hope that someone anyone will acquire the rights 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: to a league of their own TV series, reboot it 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: and give us a season. 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: Two Netflix, Hulu. Anyone. Come on. 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: It's Friday, January tenth, and on today's show, we're closing 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: out our New Year, New League's Week with bats, balls 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: and sticks. That's right, we got a couple more new 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: leagues to keep an eye on in twenty twenty five 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: and beyond. 11 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: Plus Big Citrus. 12 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: Convenes to chat about each of the leagues we've previewed 13 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: this week. What are we most excited about, what concerns 14 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: do we have, and what questions remain. 15 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,319 Speaker 2: It's all coming up right after this. 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back places, Let's close out this very special New Year, 17 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: New Leagues Week with a couple more to keep an 18 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: eye on this year and next. First up, the Women's 19 00:00:55,400 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: Lacrosse League WLL. WLL is brought to was by the 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: folks behind the Men's Premier Lacrosse League PLL, and it 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: was announced in a big way back on November thirteenth. 22 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: PLL co founder and CEO Paul Rabel and soon to 23 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: be WLL Stars, Charlotte North and Izzy Scane appeared on 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: ESPN's Get Up to announce the new league. On the 25 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: same day, Rabel and North also rang the closing bell 26 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: at the Nasdaq Market site in Times Square to celebrate 27 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: officially kicking things off. The WL is already backed by 28 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: Whirlpool and Lexus as founding partners, and is set to 29 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: debut with the twenty twenty five Lexus Championship Series taking 30 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: place February eleventh through seventeenth. It's a tournament with a 31 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: round robin, semi final, and championship round that'll be played 32 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: at the Saint James in Springfield, Virginia. The competition will 33 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: feature four teams with city or region names, even though 34 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: it'll all take place in Virginia, the Boston Guard, California Palms, 35 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: Maryland Charm, and New York Charging. The player captains chosen 36 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: to headline each roster have been announced. Former Boston College 37 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: attacker North will suit up for the Boston Guard, Northwestern 38 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: Lacrosse star Skin will compete for New York Maryland. Assistant 39 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: coach and former Star attacker Alex ast Holman will play 40 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: for the Charm, and former UNC midfielder Ali Mastriani will 41 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: play for the Palms. The idea is that the fans 42 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: these superstars amassed from their storied college and international careers 43 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: hopefully follow them over to the WLL as far as 44 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: the rest of the rosters go. Rachel decheco vice president 45 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: of lacrosse at the PLL, said on the Lacrosse All 46 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: Stars podcast network that the league sent out interest forms 47 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: to a pool of players decided on by its front 48 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: office and its player captains. The front office will then 49 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: assemble rosters composed of players who filled out the forms, 50 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: so there won't be a draft, but the WLL hopes 51 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: to hold one in the future. De Checko also said 52 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: on that podcast that the wll's players will receive pay 53 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: equal to that of their male counterparts, though she didn't 54 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: reveal an exact amount or whether that's equal to season pay, 55 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: per game pay, or otherwise. The games will follow a 56 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: six's format, consistent with the format laid out by the 57 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: World Lacrosse Federation for the Olympics coming up in twenty 58 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 1: twenty eight. Each team will have twelve players, and six 59 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: players will take the field at a time for each side. 60 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,119 Speaker 1: All the runners will carry shortsticks and move as midfielders 61 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: navigating a condensed seventy by thirty six meter field. As 62 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: North put it on her ESPN Get Up appearance, it's 63 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: going to be quote, the best players in the world 64 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: playing the fastest game in the world, end quote. WL 65 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: and PL will play back. 66 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: To back games during the tournament. 67 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: Some days WL will precede the men's game, and sometimes 68 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: they'll play after all. The Championship Series games will stream 69 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: live on ESPN Plus, as both the WL and PLL 70 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: have an exclusive media rights agreement with ESPN. After that 71 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: debut event in February, WL plans to take a group 72 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: of eighteen players to Japan to participate in exhibitions against 73 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: teams of specially selected Japanese players. Now, there's not a 74 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: lot of information available about the future of the WL 75 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: or really anything after that Championship Series and the Japan trip, 76 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: but looking ahead, having teams represent these four areas feels 77 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: like a strategic decision. They're all hotbeds for lacrosse in 78 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: the US, and they could make up a future touring league, 79 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: and having team names and logos and merch and all 80 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: that certainly indicates that they've got bigger plans beyond this 81 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: February tournament. No information about those plans just yet, though, 82 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: and worth noting after Athletes Unlimited suspended its lacrosse operations 83 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: in December, the WLL does potentially offer an opportunity for 84 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: post college players to compete and for fans to keep 85 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: enjoying lacrosse at the most elite level, so we'll be 86 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: keeping an eye on what those future plans might be. 87 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: As for now, tickets for the twenty twenty five Lexus 88 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: Championship Series are available. Will link to where you could 89 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: purchase them in our show notes, and WLL merch is 90 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: available too, so we'll link to where you can grab 91 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: some of that. Next up in America's hat, we've got 92 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: the Northern Super League aka NSL, a new professional women's 93 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: soccer league in Canada that kicks off on April sixteenth. 94 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: Co founder and chief growth officer Diana Matheson had an 95 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: incredible seventeen year career playing for Canada's national team. You 96 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: might remember her from scoring the bronze medal winning goal 97 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: for Canada against France at the twenty twelve Summer Olympics. 98 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: She also played professionally for several teams, including The Spirit, 99 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: The Rain and the Royals in the NWSL. She brings 100 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: knowledge from her playing days and the growing pains of 101 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: the early years of the NWSL to her new role 102 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: leading the NFL and helping Canada start to catch up 103 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: in terms of pro opportunities for female athletes. 104 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 2: Now. 105 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: The six NSL founding franchises are the Halifax Tides, Montreal Roses, 106 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: Ottawa Rapid, AFC, Toronto, Calgary Wilde and Vancouver Rise. The 107 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: schedules expected to be released in February, with Jersey sales 108 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: set to start in March. Each team will play twenty 109 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: five regular season games, playing each of the other clubs 110 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: five times a piece. The top four sides advanced to 111 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: the postseason, with number one playing number four and number 112 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: two taking on number three in two legged semi finals, 113 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: so that's a home and away series followed by one. 114 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: Winner take all championship game. 115 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: Clubs will have between twenty and twenty five players on 116 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: their rosters, with eight international players permitted per team. They'll 117 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: work under a one point six million dollars salary cap 118 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: to start, with the league minimum salary set at fifty 119 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: thousand dollars now. Each franchise will be allowed to have 120 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: one marquee player who's paid does not count against that 121 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: one point eight six million dollar cap. Only two dozen 122 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: or so players have been announced so far, including Canadian 123 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: national teamers Emma Reagan and Latifa Abdu, and former current 124 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: and Dash player Croix Soto. More names are set to 125 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: be revealed in the coming weeks. All six coaches have 126 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: been named. Arenas are still being sorted, so Vancouver and 127 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: Montreal have yet to announce where they'll play their home games. 128 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: The Roses did announce that they'll plan to you several stadiums. 129 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,559 Speaker 1: As for broadcasts, a league spokesman told CBC dot com 130 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: that all league matches will be shown either on linear 131 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: TV through their broadcast partners, or on NSL and partner 132 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: digital platforms. More details on that to come as well. 133 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: The NFL is owned equally by the clubs, and any 134 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: future expansion teams will also buy into the league, so 135 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,559 Speaker 1: every franchise will own an equal share. The ownership groups 136 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: for each individual franchise vary in size. There are some 137 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: notable names that have invested, including former Canada legend and 138 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: captain Christine Sinclair joining the Vancouver Rise FC ownership team 139 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: now Mathieson and fellow league co founder Tom Gilbert hold 140 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: an ownership stake in the Ottawa Rapid franchise. You can 141 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: check out more info on the league and the sixth 142 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: founding franchises at NSL dot ca. We'll link to that 143 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: site in the show notes. Finally, looking ahead to next year, 144 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: there's the Women's Professional Baseball League WPBL, set to launch 145 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six. I know we're all still bummed 146 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: that Prime canceled a league of their own following a 147 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: super excellent first season featuring Abby Jacobson, Chante Adams, and 148 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: Darcy Cardin. But on the bright side, women's baseball players 149 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: in this century will soon be coming to a real 150 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: diamond near you. This league was co founded by Justine Siegel, 151 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: founder of Baseball for All, and Keith Stein, a lawyer 152 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: and businessman. They expect to launch in twenty twenty six 153 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: with six teams based in the northeastern US. Now it's 154 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: worth noting here that we are talking baseball, not softball baseball. 155 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 1: There are still very few girls and women's baseball teams 156 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: across all levels, but that doesn't mean that girls and 157 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: women aren't playing. Around thirteen hundred girls play high school 158 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: baseball on boys teams each year, while NCAA statistics show 159 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: that nine women played on men's teams across all three 160 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: divisions in twenty twenty four. The WPBL has been posting 161 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: lots of info on their Instagram channel from cities they're 162 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: targeting to resources for interested players, so we'll link to 163 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: that in the show notes. Make sure to give them 164 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: a follow. All Right, we're gonna take a quick break. 165 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: When we come back, Big Citrus convenes to reflect on 166 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: everything we've learned about the new leagues starting this week 167 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: and later this year. See you on the other side. 168 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Slices, and welcome back to the other members 169 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: of Big Citrus. Alex and Mesh. Let's chat about what 170 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: we learned this week. This was a very informative week. 171 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: I learned a ton about these new leagues, but I 172 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: still have some questions. I still have some concerns as well. 173 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: But I want to start with what we're most excited for. 174 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: And I'm just going to start because. 175 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: I didn't really realize until after our conversation with Alex 176 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: about Unrivaled exactly what this one on. 177 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: One weekend was going to to be. 178 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: And now I am super super pumped, Like there was 179 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: this off mention during our interview with him, he was like, oh, yeah, 180 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: besides the one on one, and we kept it moving 181 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: and I started reading about that after the fact that 182 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: I was like, hold up, We're going to get these 183 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: players that are part of Unrivaled, that are already some 184 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: of the best players in the world, most of the 185 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: best players in the world, in a one on one 186 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: where we can have like these are the bar fights 187 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: that we have with no resolution. We're going to get 188 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: like a resolution on this. 189 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 3: For the people that didn't do their research post show, 190 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: can you just explain the one on one that was 191 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: not mentioned in our show? 192 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: Please? Thank you. 193 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: We mentioned it, but we like kept it moving so fast. 194 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: So they're hosting a one on one tournament. It's going 195 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: to be February tenth to fourteenth, and it's going to 196 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: feature all the players from Unrivaled competing against each other 197 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: one on one to decide the best individual player in 198 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: the game, and that person gets two hundred and fifty 199 00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: thousand dollars winner take all, I mean, single elimination, one 200 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: v one two hundred and fifty k on the line. 201 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: Some of these matches, like I don't know how they're 202 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: doing these matchups because if it's single elimination and you 203 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: just get a terrible draw to start, you gotta be 204 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: so pissed. 205 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 3: I'm imagining doing a bracket for this. 206 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 2: Yes, get to fill up. 207 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: We gotta do a bracket for this. Like is it seated? 208 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: Is it random? Like yeah, I'm I mean, this is mesh. 209 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that you're not, Like, just your brain 210 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: is reeling right now with all the possibilities. 211 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: The thing that makes me the happiest about this one 212 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 4: on one format is the money on the line. 213 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 5: So nobody's gonna be out there luncheon, nobody's. 214 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 2: Gonna be out there. 215 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: Uh. 216 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 4: You know, I tweaked my lower leg earlier today, so 217 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 4: you know, I'm kind of taking No, they're gonna be 218 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 4: going at each other's throats. And two, the idea of 219 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 4: this means there will be more of this in the future, 220 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 4: and so we'll see more iterations of this, and you know, 221 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 4: as the Fees and Brianna Stewart's get older, and you know, 222 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 4: the sabrinian Escu's and the younger kind the generation of 223 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 4: players get better. I'm just really excited to see how 224 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 4: things might shift as the years come. 225 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: Do y'all have like a favorite because it is hard 226 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: to imagine some of the bigs that if they have 227 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: enough quickness, we'll be able to block shots and use 228 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: their body to back players in and dominate, versus some 229 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: of the guards with like just sick handles that'll cross 230 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: them up and take that first step and get to 231 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: the hoop fast enough. 232 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 2: Like mans is hard. 233 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 4: Favorites because it's such a Basketball is beautiful because you 234 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 4: can win in a variety of ways, especially one on one. 235 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 4: And I think what we're about to see with this 236 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 4: competition is, like you got to understand, these players are 237 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 4: the elite of the elite level in their positions, but 238 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 4: they've also got other stuff in the bag that we 239 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 4: don't even see of NBA season that I think we're 240 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 4: about to see on full display. 241 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 5: So it's gonna be crazy. 242 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: Oh god, I'm really excited for that. 243 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: Okay, did you guys get super excited about anything these 244 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: conversations that like you like we just kind of got 245 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: the info. Now we can actually break it down and 246 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: like react to it. So what stood out to you, Alex. 247 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 3: I really loved hearing about the process that so many 248 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: of these decision makers used in coming to the formation. 249 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: Of the league, how they're selecting players going actually to Unrivaled, 250 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 3: I thought the stuff about how they were drafting players 251 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 3: and using coaches to select teams, but without the coaches 252 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 3: knowing who they were going to coach was fascinating because 253 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 3: you need that type of input from coaches who understand 254 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 3: what players work together and what don't without wanting their 255 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: best interests. 256 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 2: Served. 257 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been thinking a ton about Unrivaled and the 258 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: impact that it might have on other leagues, even established 259 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: men's leagues. They are just doing some things that I 260 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: think are so smart, and I think a lot of 261 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: people are going to be watching and taking. 262 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 3: Notes for sure. Actually, another question I had for Unrivaled, 263 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 3: I loved what Alex said about player jerseys. You know, 264 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: Reese should be making money off of her jersey from 265 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 3: day one. I don't know if you guys know this 266 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 3: about me, but for a while my niche in the 267 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 3: women's sports world was WNBA jersey problems. I wrote several 268 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 3: stories about it back in the day, just how impossible 269 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 3: it is to get WNBA jerseys, especially if it's not 270 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 3: for one or two players on a specific team. And 271 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 3: so I now want to know how is unrivaled getting jerseys. 272 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 3: What that process looks like for fans, Like. 273 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: How you mean, who's their supplier? How much? How long 274 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: has turned around? 275 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, because that's a problem with the wnba IS people. 276 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 3: Every year they order a jersey in November and it 277 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 3: doesn't arrive in time for Christmas. 278 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: You know, well, it's the. 279 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: Problem across all of women's sports. It's US women's national team, 280 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: it's i mean the Red Stars every year. And when 281 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: I joined that ownership group, there was a guarantee this year, we're. 282 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: Not gonna We're gonna have all the Nope. 283 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: Still was like the end of the season and you're 284 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: getting the jersey that they just wore all season long 285 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: and you never had a chance to rocket to a game. 286 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean a lot of it, I think 287 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: is when you have massive production, you take a bet, 288 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: you print it all in advance and assume it sells, 289 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: and in the women's game, they don't assume enough interest 290 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: and then they announce a sellout twenty four hours in 291 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: and you're like, that means you're losing money, dumbasses. 292 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: If you sold out in twenty four hours, that means. 293 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: You didn't make enough and you planned for less interest 294 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: than there is, and so yeah, I'm interested in that. 295 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: Too, especially just because they are such a player forward organization. 296 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 3: It seems like the type of thing where if they 297 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: are figuring out how to pay players for their jerseys 298 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 3: from day one, I'm guessing that they have a better 299 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: plan in place to actually get those jerseys sold well. 300 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: And it's such a short stretch that if you're planning 301 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: on wearing it to a game, you better have it 302 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: within the first week. 303 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: There's not that many weeks. 304 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: I mean, of course, people will still want to rock 305 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: them in the off season and it'll become a style 306 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: thing hopefully, but yeah, that's going to be really important, 307 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: that ability to buy them like the at the games 308 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: and get them quickly. Meish, was there anything from this 309 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: week that stood out to you that you got excited about? 310 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 5: Hey, the keep harping on unrival Love to keep harping 311 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 5: on Unrivaled. 312 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 4: I'm really also excited just about the regular World three 313 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 4: on three format because something Alex Bizell told us in 314 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 4: the interview with him, and that I think a lot 315 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 4: of young players can benefit from is the fact that 316 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 4: basketball happens in actions of three, three players, three movements, 317 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 4: all happening at the same time, and what we're gonna 318 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 4: see is the most elite of the most elite operating 319 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 4: in that format in the most simplified way. 320 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 5: But you get to see all the high speed. 321 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 4: Recognition and reads that they make from the pick and 322 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 4: roll to give and go guarding a screen like back 323 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 4: door cuts, all these reads. I think young players who 324 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 4: are gonna be sised about this league because it's amazing 325 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 4: on its surface, are gonna learn so much just from 326 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 4: taking that in and then be able to take that 327 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 4: and apply it to their AAU teams, their high school teams, 328 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 4: because these are all concepts that are at their baseline, 329 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 4: very very simple. It's just about how quickly you can 330 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 4: make those reads. So as a nerd, as a lover of. 331 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 5: The x's and o's, I think that's going to be spectacular. 332 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: Quick aside, here did you say cised? 333 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: And what the fuck is that? And how old am I? 334 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: New Year? New slang? Like what's happening? What does that mean? 335 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, I'm gonna have to write a dictionary 336 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 4: for y'all. So bacis is just the same as like stoked, hyped, psyched, excited. 337 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: You know this one, Alex Okay. 338 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 5: It might be regional. I don't even know I've been 339 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 5: saying sized my whole life, pied. 340 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: How do you spell it? S I c ed. 341 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 5: I guess I don't know that it's in a dictionary. 342 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: Sie. You said, you've been using this your whole life, 343 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: my whole life. This isn't even new slang. 344 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: No, oh, it's a word commonly used in the DMV area. 345 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,479 Speaker 2: Okay a I okay. 346 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 3: I also love how close it is to sliced. 347 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 2: Sliced. 348 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: Oh good, they're gonna be real sliced about this. They're 349 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: going to be They're gonna be about these John's no. 350 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 5: Say cannot let its lice. 351 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: That's funny. Okay. Last thing quickly that I was excited about, 352 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 2: and that. 353 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: Was the love volleyball folks talking about being able to 354 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: break down plays mid game. I think it'll be such 355 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: a fine line between interrupting flow and then between educating 356 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: and informing in a way that makes the game a 357 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: better watch. I just think it's a really cool concept, 358 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: and I think it's really smart when you have a 359 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: sport that's popular, but maybe a lot of people don't 360 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: dive deep enough to understand it to be able to 361 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: very quickly explain something, or to show a super point 362 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: like they talked about and explain what was so impressive 363 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: about it, talk about a player who did something. I 364 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: think so often there's this sort of separation between the 365 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: feature storytelling and the information about players that we like 366 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: and then the game itself, and it all goes so 367 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 1: fast that you try to put them together, so being 368 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: able to stop for a second and be like, hey, 369 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: that play was this person and remember this is what 370 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: we said about them. 371 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: And YadA YadA. 372 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: I just I think it's a really cool concept and 373 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see in action what it's like and 374 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: how well it works. But I love, like you said, Alex, 375 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: so many of these leagues trying new things and doing 376 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: something that in the end we might later say why 377 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: weren't we doing this all along? 378 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 2: Like this is such a good idea? Yeah, for sure. 379 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 3: It reminds me. A friend actually the other day sent 380 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 3: me a story. I think he found it on like 381 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 3: male sports Instagram. It was recommended to him and it 382 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 3: was like, every league needs to do what the PWHL does. 383 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: So just a quick primer here, the PWHL has this 384 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 3: model for playoffs where it encourages teams not to tank 385 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 3: their season because in order to get the highest draft pick, 386 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 3: those odds are based on how many wins you have 387 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 3: after you are eliminated. And so we see it all 388 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 3: the time right in men's sports, where it's like, oh, 389 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 3: they're not really doing too hot right now at the 390 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 3: end of the season, and that's because they're trying to 391 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 3: incentivize having the number one pick. And so I love 392 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 3: that these new leagues are able to try the things 393 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: that makes sport it's better and more exciting for everyone. 394 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not beholden to tradition in a way that 395 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: will really piss people off, and so they can look 396 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: at things that we've been complaining about in sports for 397 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: decades and be like, let's try something different, Like the 398 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: way the NBA started using the elam ending for the 399 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: All Star Game, which instead of it being a blowout 400 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: and sucking, it's this variation where basically, at a certain 401 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: point in the game, you have to hit a target 402 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: point score, so the first team to meet or get 403 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: to that score wins. It's like always a walk off, 404 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: it's always going to finish in an exciting way. You're 405 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: not like shooting free throws to kill time you're not 406 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: watching the blowout at the end of a game, So like, 407 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: I feel like there's these opportunities to look at things 408 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: that suck. And that's the joke, right the end of 409 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: an NBA game, the last five minutes is the longest 410 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: hour of your life. 411 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: You know, you can. 412 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: Find ways to like just mess around a little and 413 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: maybe you don't change it all the time, but maybe 414 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: eventually it does become something that works so well, like 415 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: you said, Alex, with the PWHL that and like the 416 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: all break stuff, if you like it enough, you just 417 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: keep it and you. 418 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 2: Stick with it. Okay, cool. 419 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: So we're excited about a lot of stuff that we heard. 420 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: Do we have questions or concerns. I'm gonna just really 421 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: quickly based off today mentioned that I'm very curious about 422 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: the WL, the Women's Lacross League, because this is a 423 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: league that had a massive launch with a ton of 424 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: ESPN backing. Obviously the PLL folks know people in high 425 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: places to have sponsors and a broadcast deal and all 426 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: this stuff, and there's like so little information out there. 427 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: There's just this tournament and then is there a season? 428 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: Are they touring? Are they traveling? Are they what's it 429 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: going to look like. To have team names and locations 430 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: and merch already but not have a season indicates bigger plans. 431 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: I'm just very curious what they are because there's so 432 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: little information out there. 433 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 5: And I'm also, of course curious about the money. 434 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 4: Like we heard Sarah mentioned in at top when we 435 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 4: were talking about WLL that they're going to get the 436 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 4: same amount as The Men, but what we don't even 437 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 4: really have metrics on the Men, frankly, so I just 438 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 4: want to know, you know, exactly what that's going to 439 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 4: look like. And to your point, I would love to 440 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 4: be able to circle dates on a calendar right and 441 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 4: plug them in, especially the Maryland charm being I'm assuming 442 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 4: if they get a you know, home stadium or location, 443 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 4: we'll be right up the street from me. I would 444 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 4: love to know that stuff. Yeah, definitely also curious about that. 445 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think so we reached out to the 446 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: WL hoping to have them do an episode, and they 447 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: wanted to talk closer to when their event happens, and 448 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: that's cool, and maybe that's part of it. Maybe they're 449 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: still just getting all the details ready to go, and 450 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: they would prefer to have less information out if if 451 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: it might change, then to put stuff out that ultimately 452 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: won't be accurate anymore. So we'll keep you updated on 453 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: all things WL. We're just very curious about how big 454 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: of a launch it was. And then it was like 455 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: and then it will be six days. Oh okay, so 456 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: like let's see what's happening after that. One last thing, 457 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: like lacrosse related. I was messaging with John Patrick Coff, 458 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: who's one of the foul athletes Unlimited, after they announced 459 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: that their lacrosse league was going away, and I was 460 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: trying to figure out was this like a WLL competition 461 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: issue that WLL was getting backing from ESPN or something, 462 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: And what he said was that he was looking ahead 463 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: to international play and this summer there are two major 464 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: international competitions. Next summer is the World Championship, then the Olympics, 465 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: and they just didn't want to do a week here 466 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: and then a week there. Also, so many of the 467 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: players are college coaches, they have limited windows already in 468 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: the summer. So I'm curious if athletes Unlimited that already 469 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: had an established lacrosse league looked at the landscape and 470 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: felt like there wasn't an opportunity to exist within it. 471 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: What does that mean for the WL and their future 472 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: plans as well. 473 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a really good question. I think it highlights 474 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 3: how being an Olympic sport changes so much, and the 475 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 3: fact that it's not just an Olympic sport, but an 476 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 3: Olympic sport that is debuting on home soil means that 477 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 3: there are resources on the US level that being poured 478 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: in like they've never come in before, and so I 479 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: think it probably for the athletes as well, changes their 480 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 3: prioritization and motivation in terms of what they have time 481 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 3: to do. And I think also it's a fairly small 482 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 3: post grad playing pool because most players that graduate haven't 483 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: had an opportunity to keep playing, and so all of 484 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 3: these groups are kind of fighting for the same athletes. 485 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 1: It'll be interesting years from now to look back and 486 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: think about how these early leagues might have been the 487 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: start of this massive change in how our country views 488 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: of particular sport or the fandom around it, or whether 489 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: it's too big of a mountain to climb for some 490 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: of these and trying to get the eyeballs and attention 491 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: that we already have for more established sports cool to watch. 492 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: What other concerns or questions that we have about these leagues. 493 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a couple of I call them red 494 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 3: flag moments. I think during the conversation that you had 495 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 3: Sarah with doctor Jessica Hammond Grath and Betty Wynn in 496 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 3: the Women's lead Rugby League. My biggest takeaway. 497 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: From that is. 498 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 3: They are doing everything they can because these are players 499 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 3: that want to play, have been paying their own way 500 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 3: for too long, and yet it did not feel to 501 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 3: me like they had the resources in place to make 502 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 3: it the type of professional women's league that we have 503 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 3: thankfully come to expect. In twenty twenty five, you know, 504 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 3: I was thinking of what would now retired NWSL player 505 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 3: Meyrit Matthias say about this? 506 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: What would hockey's. 507 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 3: Kendall coin Schofield say about this? I think back to 508 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 3: when the Yates report came out in twenty twenty two. 509 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 3: That was the investigation into the NWSL, and one of 510 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 3: the main takeaways from it was that the lack of 511 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 3: basic workplace protections, no HR, no guardrails, you know, no 512 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 3: system of reporting like that is what allowed abuse to thrive. 513 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 3: And players had so little autonomy. We're making so little 514 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 3: money that they didn't have a say in what was 515 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 3: happening in their careers, and so I'm giving that context, 516 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 3: not at all saying that that's what's happening with rugby, 517 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,479 Speaker 3: because I don't think it is. 518 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: But I get. 519 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: Concerned when we see these leagues that are starting up 520 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 3: but where player pay and experience and professionalism just isn't 521 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 3: in place. And I think in this case, again, it's 522 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 3: not because they don't want it to be, it's just 523 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 3: because of a lack of resources. 524 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. 525 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: I think, you know, in our effort to talk about 526 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: the things that are starting up this year, we put 527 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: them in the same grouping because it's a new league 528 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,239 Speaker 1: in this new year, but worth for sure making it 529 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: clear that they're operating at a completely different level than 530 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: say AUSL or Unrivaled or you know, any of the 531 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: other professional leagues that we've seen launch in the last 532 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: couple of years that feel like they've had a longer 533 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: runway and more investment. Love volleyball, for instance, that first 534 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: game on Wednesday night was five years in the making 535 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: and a lot of investment and a lot of big 536 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: names involved, and I think wer like we talked about 537 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: this on a previous show, how cool it was that 538 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: they looked at the previous models put together by people 539 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: who were passionate and cared enough to create a league 540 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: that was all funded by the players themselves, and they 541 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: honored that with like a sort of tournament helping announce 542 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: the launch of WR. They're looking at the history, they're 543 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: reconciling the way it's looked and how they can make 544 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: it better. But to your point, they don't yet have 545 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: the investment and the money to launch it in a 546 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: way that feels on part with some of these other leagues. 547 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: That doesn't inherently make it problematic or bad. It just 548 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: is something to keep an eye on as we look 549 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,719 Speaker 1: out for whether that results in the players not getting 550 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: proper treatment or medical care, or anything else that can 551 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: happen when you're not at the same level that we 552 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: sort of expect at this point. 553 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 3: You know, I think back to some of what the 554 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 3: NWSL players said of when that league was first started, 555 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 3: and that was the third US pro soccer league after 556 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 3: two others folded. They were just grateful to play and 557 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 3: they were so scared that it was going to fold again. 558 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 3: And it makes me think about what happened in women's hockey, 559 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 3: where when players stepped away in twenty nineteen to form 560 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 3: the PWHPA. They were hoping that they were only stepping 561 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 3: away for a season, and to them stepping away even 562 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 3: for a season was how on earth are. 563 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: We doing this? 564 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 3: But they stepped away because they knew that they had 565 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 3: to withhold their own labor to demand better and that 566 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 3: it takes time, and it ended up taking four years, 567 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 3: and so I even think Billy Jeane King said it, 568 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 3: you know, like what you have as a player is 569 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 3: labor and the only thing you can sometimes do is 570 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 3: not play. Now, I don't even know if rugby players 571 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 3: are in that position because I'm not sure if somebody 572 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 3: would step up and back it. So again, I don't 573 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 3: know what the best case scenario is, but I hope 574 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 3: that it is something that they are thinking about moving forward. 575 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 3: And also I hope that players feel like they're in 576 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 3: a position where they can speak up and address issues 577 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 3: and not feel like the thing is going to fold, 578 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 3: because we've seen that too often over time, and that's 579 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 3: not a strong model either. 580 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: I think it's a really great point, and I think 581 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: unfortunately rugby isn't in a position yet to have the 582 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 1: leverage to create something potentially vastly different right now, and 583 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: so you know, I was really moved in my interview 584 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: with Lauren Holliday asking her what it would feel like 585 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 1: to be playing now instead of having to help launch 586 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: multiple leagues, be the first MVP, be this like Superstar 587 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: when the league was still playing in like high school fields, 588 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: and her response was so much about gratitude and how 589 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: some of the best times in her life came playing 590 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 1: and she was so happy to be playing. And I 591 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: think very wisely and necessarily have been telling women athletes 592 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: it is not enough anymore to be grateful for whatever 593 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: you can get, yes, and to that yes, and to 594 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: also how great is it for rugby players that the 595 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: WUER is going to give them something other than what 596 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: they've always had, which is spending their own money. 597 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: That it's a step forward that if you are a rugby. 598 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: Player and you want to do something after college, you 599 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: have an opportunity and the joy it might bring a 600 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: lot of these players, even if it doesn't reach the 601 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: level that we wish it could right now. So I 602 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: do think there's that balance, though Alex of like make 603 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: sure that it's not deleterious of the players, either safety 604 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: or health or mental otherwise make sure that it's the 605 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: best possible version of what they can afford and have 606 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: the leverage to do right now. 607 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 3: And I think maybe the one other difference I'll just 608 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 3: point out here too, is rugby isn't an NCAA sport, 609 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 3: and at a lot of colleges, it's not a varsity sport, 610 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 3: and the type of funding that comes with those two 611 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 3: things is different as well. And so I think for 612 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 3: what we've seen in a lot of other leagues, players 613 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 3: recognize what they don't have postscrad because they had it 614 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 3: when they were in college and not making any money. 615 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 3: And so I think for rugby players too, a lot 616 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 3: of club teams are fundraising, you know, to be able 617 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 3: to get to that tournament in the first place, and 618 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 3: so I think maybe the expectation for some of those 619 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 3: players is also different coming into this league. 620 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really smart. 621 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: And I think about this a lot with women's sports, 622 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: because I'll get in debates sometimes with people about what is. 623 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: Earned or owed, and I don't think anybody is owed anything. 624 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: I think when we argue about giving opportunity and a 625 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: chance to some of these leagues, it's because we know 626 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: that there is an appetite and that the product is great. 627 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: So when we say the WNBA deserves investment, and when 628 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: you put it on TV, people watch, and the stars 629 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: are good and the play is good, and the stories 630 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: are there and everything that's true and accurate, and at 631 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: times it has been held back by people standing in 632 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: its way, not because the product wasn't there. 633 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: There are other women's sports that are up and coming. 634 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: We don't have stars that we know, We aren't familiar 635 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: with the game, And so it's okay for rugby to 636 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: be getting its footing for the landscape around it to 637 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: change as a result of the Olympics, as a result 638 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: of Michelle Kang's four million dollar investment into US rugby, 639 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: Like there are these moments along the way that hopefully 640 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: we'll get it to a better place, and that's okay, 641 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: the same way that we don't put men's professional lacrosse 642 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: on TV, the same way we do men's football and 643 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: basketball and other sports that we're more familiar with than 644 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: are bigger. 645 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah me. Should you have any questions or concerns 646 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: from this week? 647 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 5: Are there any concerns or questions left? 648 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: No? 649 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 5: I do not. 650 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad Mesh has all the information that they need. 651 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: But I'm guessing all you slices might still have some questions, concerns, 652 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: or thoughts. We got to take another break, but when 653 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: we come back, last call for questions, y'all. Welcome back, slices. 654 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: We love that you're listening, but we want you to 655 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: get in the game every day too. So here's our 656 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: good game play of the day. 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