WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Woodson Joins 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:09.080 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:21.200 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:24.919 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:29.280 ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:34.640 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:39.720 Were with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:48.680 Derek Eagleton. Two thousand twenty, Season sixteen, episode number ten. 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:51.680 Welcome to another edition of the Break to Your Life 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:55.400 from the virtual s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star. 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:58.639 And as you can hear, Dave Hellman's typing away and 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:01.960 he's so excited to be joining this show and very 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:03.600 happy you guys could take some time with us to 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:07.720 talk a little Cowboys football here on the Break. Lots 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:09.520 of things, well I should say lots of things, but 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:13.119 some things are actually moving in the NFL. We'll start 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:15.800 today talking a little bit about Jerry returning to the Star. 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:17.920 A little later, we got a new segment that we'll 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.240 be starting up probably about five minutes from now. We 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:23.440 call it story Time on the Break, and our storyteller 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.800 to day is none other than Darren Woodson. He's got 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:27.760 a few stories for us. We'll try to do that 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:29.600 every week, have a special guest stand to tell us 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:32.600 some interesting stories from behind the curtains at the Star 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:35.479 with the Cowboys. In addition that, we'll also get into 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:38.479 some of the conversations around the owners meetings and then 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:41.320 talk a little bit about Keto A. Woozier in the 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:46.600 final segment, how's everybody doing today? I just wanted to 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:50.120 I was promoting the show on Twitter, so you know, 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:52.560 I was regarding that you were doing something very important. 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:54.640 It sounded like you were doing something very important, So 0:01:54.840 --> 0:02:00.960 I appreciate that's good. Let's stop great. Jerry returned to 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.960 the Star yesterday, Nick, and you had an opportunity to 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.600 write an article about that. First of all, I got 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:08.560 tell me right now, I guess tell me from the 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:11.480 fans out there who don't know what are teams allowed 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.360 to do at this point? What does the NFL said 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:15.600 as far as what teams are allowed to do as 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:18.880 of today, as of yesterday? Really, but the big thing 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:22.200 is that no coaches or players are allowed in the 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:25.520 building for a competitive reasons, and that's because you have 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:28.919 to have the guidelines of the state of your own 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.959 state to be able to return to work. Obviously, Texas. 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.400 It's been very public. Texas is reopened, so that works 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:39.400 for the Cowboys. So they can have no more than 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:43.480 seventy five people in the building or fifty percent, just 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:47.600 depends on how big your organization is. The Cowboys obviously 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.640 have way more than one hundred and fifty employees, so 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.880 seventy five is the max. And if somebody's going to 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.960 lead it off on Tuesday, might as well be Jerry 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.880 Jones and the Jones family. So you know, Jerry had 0:02:59.880 --> 0:03:03.200 a virtual owners meeting call that he wanted to to 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:05.840 take and he wanted to make sure and do it 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.760 in the office. He's kind of leading the chart as 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.760 the Cowboys are working their way like other teams working 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:16.000 their way back. And just to be clear, healthy players 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:20.080 and coaches are not allowed in the facility as of 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:22.600 right now based upon the NFL rules because the NFL 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.560 wants to ensure that all teams have a fair footing, 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.239 so and so all teams have access to be able 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:31.160 to get back into their buildings, no healthy players or 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:34.000 coaches will be allowed in the building. Nicole ask you 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.320 to what's significance of Jerry being at the Star yesterday. 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:42.040 Was there significance in that I think the significance of, 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.760 you know, people are working again. I mean I don't 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:49.560 I don't know. I mean, they did an NFL draft virtually, 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:51.480 and we all know where he was for the draft, 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.440 so he didn't have to be in the building to 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:59.000 take that call. We know that. But what it symbolizes 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:02.360 is that this is the first step back, and you know, 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:07.320 I think some of his other vice presidents and her 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:10.160 office personnel, we're able to go up there. There weren't 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:12.720 a lot of people there, but you know, just the 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:15.600 first step and hopefully mini steps that we all can 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.800 can get back from there. Yeah, all right, let's say 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.480 we're gonna we should be having Darren Woodson joining us 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:23.640 here in just a moment. We'll get into a lot 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:27.000 of different topics with him. Until we do that, though, 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.520 I wanted to start a little conversation. I saw something 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:35.320 really interesting on NFL dot com yesterday. Cynthia Freeland, NFL 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.600 dot com writer, she had she was talking about all 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:41.760 the different teams and she identified one player on all 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:46.960 thirty two teams that she said was underappreciated based upon 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:50.680 how people viewed them. And it's interesting that the player 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:52.520 that she pointed out for the Cowboys. Now I'll read 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.599 you this quote. She's talking about Taba Woozier. She said 0:04:55.600 --> 0:05:00.040 he's been far less talked about despite forcing eighteen in 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:04.160 completions in twenty nineteen, that being the third most in 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:08.400 the NFL. Pretty impressive stuff. I'm gonna leave you with that, 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:13.200 and we'll think about that and get right long. Being 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:16.680 joined by a guy that that I just think the 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:18.880 world of. As a former player of the Cowboys, he 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.760 was a nineteen ninety two All Rookie Team Remember he 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.000 was a five time Pro Bowl or, three time first 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:28.279 team All Pro, three time Super Bowl champion. Mister Darren Woodson. 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:30.839 Welcome to the show, Darren Well. I appreciate it. Thanks 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:32.800 for having me about time. Y'all got me back on 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.919 this day. You know this on Derek, I'm not putting 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.360 it on you. I'm putting it on a bit anyway. 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:43.040 Hold on coming, Hold on real quick, Woodson. Um when 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.760 says how much he loves you and all that stuff. 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:49.040 Have you seen his office, He's got some random picture 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.960 behind there. Have you seen our office? I mean our office? 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.800 Had I think you're well represented in our office. So 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:58.320 I don't know why you're gonna put that on me. Yeah, 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:03.400 I can't. I can't throwing on Amber get nick quick 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:05.520 train to look good and sound good. Right now, that 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.760 the picture was put there, Okay, it was not by 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:12.960 your choice. It was not your choice, absolutely false, right, 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:16.360 because Shannon and I had a thousand pictures we could 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:19.160 pick from, and we chose that one. We put it 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.080 there and actually wasn't high enough or it wasn't low 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:23.760 enough or whatever. It was a big or deal. And 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:27.320 then Darren came and signed it. So yeah, definitely was 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:29.320 our choice. Hey, Shannon, who do you want to put 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:33.600 in here? Darren? What's it? Sounds good? Everybody? It wasn't 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:36.200 man to get you going, though, tell us a lot 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.280 about how you and your family are doing, how y'all 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.920 are dealing with I guess what everybody's dealing with the 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.960 restrictions and and and staying at home and all those 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.520 kinds of things. Well, first of all, my my heart 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.360 goes out to those that are suffering through COVID, because 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.720 there's you know, some of us are impacted more than others. 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.840 I've had some friends, Charlie Williams, a good teammate of 0:06:55.880 --> 0:07:00.320 ours behind in the nineties. He lost his brother, So 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:02.960 I mean it's you know, for some of us that 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:06.000 hasn't been that that big of an impact outside of 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:09.880 just you know, logistically being being such. But you know, 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.120 for a lot of us, you know, health wise, as 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.240 it has. And you know, my heart goes out to 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:19.840 those families. For myself, Uh, it's been a different being home. 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.400 And as you guys well know, I travel a lot, 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:26.679 whether it be through business or uh and mostly through business, 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:30.600 and uh, you know, I'm home now. The family is 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:34.200 probably about ready for me to get the heck out 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:37.920 of the house. I'm back in my office. As you 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:40.800 can probably see today, I'm right here in the you know, 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.480 the atrium of the Cowboys headquarters. So I'm back in 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:47.240 the office right now. We're coming back. They're trying to 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:50.200 get back slowly, get back in im. I'm in the 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.600 office twice a week, so you know, things are on 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.760 the uptick, man, so hopefully we can make this turn. 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:00.160 It's good stuff. Hey, do you have a question? I 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.960 actually do, Darren. I know it's been a while since 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:04.600 you've been on the break. I feel like we haven't 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:08.440 had you in a long enough time that I'm not 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:10.600 sure you know that me and me and Amber are 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.560 kind of like the safety whisperers of the Dallas Cowboys 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:19.160 media and so having the best safety and Cowboys history. 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.960 I feel like I just have to get your stance 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:25.520 because I'm not sure I've heard it just about where 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:28.720 things have stood with that position on this team for 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.520 so long, because every year it seems like we're saying, well, 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.040 they're not gonna find their Darren Winson in the draft 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.040 this year. And ask the guy who played the position 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:39.920 poor the Cowboys. You know, I looked this up when 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:41.160 I heard you were going to be on the show. 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:43.720 The only safety they have drafted as highly as they 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:48.520 drafted you since you was Roy Williams. Yeah, just they 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:52.319 really have not prioritized it. And as somebody who appreciates 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:55.520 the position, how do you feel about that? Well, I 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:57.520 mean I'd love for them to go out and get 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:01.080 a draft to safety early. Of course we all do, uh, 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.000 but you listen, I trust me. The role of being 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:07.160 a gem across the league, not just the Cowboys, it's 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.280 a tough deal. I mean, it's a tough situation, especially 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:12.800 when there's there's players that are falling to years similar 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.719 to this year when Ceedee Lamb fell to them at 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.120 that spot. I mean, how do you have how do 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:21.599 you bypass that and reach for a safety? So for 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:26.040 any gems, that's a hard job to have. But you know, 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.840 if we keep going back to that topic of well, 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.400 we haven't had a safety sense. And in my opinion, 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.160 I think, you know, Roy Williams was an awesome pick 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:36.920 when we got him. Uh you know, I think it 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.719 was a setting but number eight or so when he 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:44.439 was drafted, and his production was unbelievable. I don't know 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.440 if there was anybody who had a five year span 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.160 that that played at that level. You know, Roy was awesome. 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:53.080 And and I look at teams, you know, as time 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:56.360 has gone on, you see the cities they get drafted early. 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:58.959 Some safeties that get drafted earlier. Those guys that like 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:02.520 the Troy Polamal that got drafted early, the Ed Reids 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.440 to get drafted early. If you want a legitimate safety, 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:07.240 you're gonna have to take a chance and get that 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.360 guy early. But the Cowboys have been in the situations 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:14.240 where it's been you know, you know, no, you know, 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.160 no offense to heat. But Heath was a special teamers 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.760 who was converted to be in a safety And if 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:21.599 you're gonna play it that way, if you're gonna have 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:26.280 a guy who plays who's not picked early as a safety, 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:28.480 didn't have a huge college career as being a guy 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:30.440 who turned the ball over to the position. But now 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.480 you expect them, you expect a special teamer to come 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:35.559 in and fit that role. You're not gonna You're not 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:37.520 gonna have a guy that's gonna play at that high 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:40.880 level at that position. So yeah, I'm with you, guys. 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:41.959 You know, if you want a guy or if you 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:43.800 want to go trade for Jamal Adams, yea, I'd love 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:47.640 to have Adams, but if you know there's going to 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:49.560 be some issues when you do so, you gotta give 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:53.040 up a lot best days, guys. A former LSU guy, 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:56.320 he's been he's been on that bandwagon for a while now. Absolutely, yeah, 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.839 something for there. I mean, looking at what they have 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:02.760 done right now. Obviously we know that they didn't draft 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:05.679 the safety and you talked about that, but looking at 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:09.000 the like haha, Clinton Dix that they got during free 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.480 agency and the four guys that they currently have, and 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:16.280 the thought of maybe moving some of these cornerbacks into 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:19.559 the safety position, how do you currently feel with the 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:22.840 safety position and looking at the guys that the always 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:25.440 currently have for this year. I thought it was good, 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:27.920 you know, when they brought in how Clinton Dix, I 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.079 felt like, you know, that was a good pickup for 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:34.680 them based on there is familiarity as far as haha 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:37.439 understanding this and every time I say that name, it 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:41.960 just killed me. But he's familiar with this defense, She'll 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:46.240 understand what exactly they need to get done, and he 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:49.800 can always teach the guys who aren't familiar with this defense. 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.319 So I thought that was a good pickup, knowing that 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:54.960 that there's gonna be some at least some immediate leadership 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.439 in the knowledge. As far as the knowledge aspect, I 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:00.719 think this team is doing what they can right now 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.959 at that position. I don't have a problem. I'm not 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.240 big on moving guys from the satan from the cornerback 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:12.120 position into the safety position just because you have to, 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.400 just because of need. I think you still there's some 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.560 still some safeties out there, some vetteran safeties out there 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.000 that you can probably take a look at. But the 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:22.040 guys that are playing corner right now, I mean, look, 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.280 I think they should stay where they are right now. Look, 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.079 I know that we had a down season last year. 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:30.920 Byron Jones is no longer here. What was his name? Cheeto? 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.480 Cheeto didn't have a great season last year, But I 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.640 don't know if you force him into another position. Let's 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:38.760 see what he does this year. Let's let's go go 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.560 through training camp, see how he's feeling about the position, 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:43.599 because he may not want to make that change. He 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:45.679 may feel like that. No, I'm gonna say, I'm a corner. 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.439 This is what I do. So you know, let's fill 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.040 them out. You know, with COVID you can't really get 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.199 a good look because we can't get out there on 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.040 the football field right now. And it's going to be 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.920 a process going through training camp. But I think they're 0:12:57.960 --> 0:12:59.839 looking at it now. Is they're they're bringing in these 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.080 he says at the safety position. I'm not so sure 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:05.520 that you move a guy like Cheeto into into that 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:11.680 position because yet let's play it out and corners don't 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:17.120 want to hit, so uh, having that mentality, I mean, 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.240 that's gonna be more. That's that's more of a change 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.959 than your thing. In that case, when I was just 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:25.160 gonna say so, when you look at the secondary overall, 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.760 corner and safety position, how do you feel just overall? 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:34.880 I thought, even though Byron didn't turn the ball over uh, 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:38.240 and didn't make dynamic plays on the ball. He was 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:41.800 a very good corner on the outside. He was a 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.840 very good, very good defensive player and and and did 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:49.000 some good things on the outside. Replacing that production is 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:52.360 gonna be hard. Now again, you know, people are always 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:54.000 taking shots and the fact that he didn't have the 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.439 air interceptions but he played extremely well that I just 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:59.640 think he was a veteran guy, athletic and you didn't 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.000 have to worry about Byron. And Byron played through a 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.959 lot of injuries as well. He was available, and that 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:08.160 says a lot to me when you have that kind 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.560 of guy who's going to be available to play week 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:13.760 in and week out. Without that, Um, I'm a little 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.120 nervous going into the season because I thought he was 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:20.960 a tremendous athlete. Uh, and God, that was available, So 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:25.120 I'm concerned about that role being out there. Well, I 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:28.640 was hoping you would make me feel better, but you 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:36.920 are not making me feel better, right You're up? Uh 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:39.600 are we going? We're gonna have him tell some stories. 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.200 I know you said that there were a couple of 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.720 stories you Yeah, if you thought Yeh would be the 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.840 perfect person to tell. So let's get into a little 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.320 story time you're on the break. Yeah, you know, Danren, 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.040 we've we've had a lot of interviews over the over 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.760 the years, and uh, you told some great stories and 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:59.360 a couple that come to mind where I think both 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:01.320 from the same season you were a veteran. In two 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:04.040 thousand and three, Bill Parcels comes in. He was looking 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:08.520 to you to scorch the earth, as you said before, 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.920 but talking about a couple of rookies from that team, 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.840 and it kind of caught your eye or caught your ear, 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:20.480 um and just maybe even called you out. Actually, uh, 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.240 well what year was that? Was that two thousand or 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:29.000 two thousand three? Two thousand Bill Parcels took over. Yeah, okay, 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:34.320 so immediately the one story I do do have that, 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.240 uh that I can remember is when when Romo came 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:39.280 in and you know, at the time, I think we 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:44.280 had Quincy Carter U, Chad Hutchinson, and Drew Hinson were 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:47.960 old quarterbacks. Um, if I name those right, I think 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:49.880 I think those were our top three guys. With Drew 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:55.520 Hinson here star start I was here was Dad Hunsinson 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.680 not here? He was three? Yeah he was, but not 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:05.200 not Drew yet, but yeah, uh, I instantly felt like 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:09.440 Romo was the guy, Like instantly it was the ball 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:13.200 came off his hands differently than all the other quarterbacks, 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:17.360 especially uh Quincy Carter, because you never knew what you're 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:21.400 getting with what Quincy um. And Quincy was considered the 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:26.640 starter at the time. Romo came in and we he 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:30.520 was just running scout team, and I just felt like 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.160 there was something about him. And Sean Payton was taking 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.120 his time with Romo on off the side and trying 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:37.560 to get him, and I kept looking at this guy 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.760 like the dudes out here killing us on scout team 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:44.080 and even to the point where you know, Romo would 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.240 hold the ball and he scramble around, and I was 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:48.600 the guy on defense like that's never gonna happen in 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:50.600 the game. You're not gonna be gonna move around and 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:53.760 scramble like that. And by time receivers, you know, this 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:56.200 doesn't work that way in the NFL. Son, you know, 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.400 I was that the old man saying all this so 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.040 passed forward. It was exactly who that was. It starts 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:05.560 buying time in the pocket. But he was just showing 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.240 out man and in practice, and you know, made us 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.520 look silly at times. And I was with camp. I 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.400 was with Bill Parcels, and Bill used to sit way 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:16.720 in the back and watch practice. And he would sit 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.760 and he would, you know, behind the defensive back. So 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:24.040 basically the drills going on, you seven on seven or 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:26.280 the team drills going on, he'd be way behind the 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:29.680 defense on the field and he'd just be watching. So 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.600 he calls me out there on the field and he says, hey, 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:35.119 you know which one of these guys do you like? 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:39.399 And I'm looking at us. I said, what do you 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.399 mean which guy? He says, you know which one of 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:45.680 the quarterbacks do you like? And I said, well the 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:49.200 kid over here, the first year kid right here, the 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:51.560 one the free agent. And he's like, yeah, wrong on 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:55.520 I said, he's the one. And he looks at me 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:58.760 and he says, you know, I can't say it on 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:03.240 the air. He says, g d uh, I can't play 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:09.760 him right now. Yeah, but I can't. I said, when 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:11.920 you asked, I said, he's better than all these guys. 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.800 He says, yeah, I know, but he can't play right now. 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.200 What about the other guys? And I'm like, uh wow, 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:22.160 conversation is dead. So about a week later that we're 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:26.119 this isn't mini camp. We come back in after one 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.879 of the practices and Romo it was very inquisitive, I 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:33.000 mean extremely inquisitive. And he would ask questions. You know, 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:35.480 he didn't care. Man. He walked up to a guy 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:37.520 like me, a veteran player. He would ask me questions 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.480 about defense and blah blah blahlah blah. And he was 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:43.200 asking me about cover three at the time, you know, 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:45.199 why we did this and why we did that as 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:48.360 a secondary and you know when they motioned across, why 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:51.959 we inverted so. And they were very good, really good questions. 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.840 And I told him we were having this conversation, I say, man, 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:58.960 by the way, I said, man, look you know, I 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:01.879 don't know what you feel about yourself and your talents. 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:04.960 And He's like, well, you know, I feel pretty good. 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.560 I'm getting comfortable. I said, no, no, no, man, I said, look, 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.080 you are by far the best quarterback we have out 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:13.879 there right far. It ain't even close. And he just 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:17.040 looked at me. When I I almost in that, you 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:19.680 know that Romo looked too that like that head to 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:22.280 the side. Look. I almost knew that he knew that, 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:27.880 but but it completely for me. At the same time, 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:30.840 but you know, he was just that he was built 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:35.040 differently mentally, mentally why, I mean, you always know Romo's 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.399 being dumpy. Of course, he wasn't like the most physical 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:40.879 looking guy, but he just had this confidence about his 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:46.280 approach to the game that I just stood out to me. Yeah, yeah, 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.080 I think I think it probably was like, see, there's 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:51.560 another one that thinks so. You know, Wilson thinks so too. 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:54.320 So I was probably the person I said it to him. 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:57.159 I guarantell him. I know Parcels didn't say it to him. 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:00.440 I know that. In fact. Yeah, the interesting was that 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:03.240 Nick and I used to host a show the night 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:07.280 before games on the road. It's called the Road Show, 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:10.520 and we had Tony on one game before while he 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:12.879 was a rookie. I think Nick and when I know 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:14.880 it was before he was the starter. He wasn't playing. 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.560 I don't remember what you but but he told us 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:19.399 at the end of the show, I will be the 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:22.520 starting quarterback for this team at some point, and we 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:26.080 all everybody got silent for a second and it was 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:28.159 kind of like, all right, thanks for joining us, for 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:35.560 reading right. But I mean, he always at that confidence. 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:36.879 He always felt like he was going to be the 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:39.240 guy at some point, and obviously it all came true 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:43.120 for him, so he was. I saw it right away 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:46.399 when he joined our flag football team, and we couldn't 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:48.800 call him Tony. We called him t but nobody in 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:50.800 town knew what his face looked like, so he could 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:53.680 play with him. He was really good in the regular season. 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:56.639 I can tell you that playoffs not so good, but 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:04.560 there it was. I mean, he threw five interceptions in 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:07.560 a playoff game in flag football, so I was thinking, 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:11.400 that's probably never gonna happen. So when he was telling there, 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:14.960 I think I flashed back to that, like, yeah, that 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:17.520 didn't work work out, so well, we'll see about that, tea. 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:24.320 But by far the best athlete on the field offense, defense. 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:26.040 I mean, a bunch of scrubs like us, but I'm 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:28.800 just saying, you can see he was a great athlete 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:31.160 and a very great you know, mind of the game 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:33.960 and all that stuff. Yeah you can. You can definitely 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:35.679 tell that right away. Do we have time for one 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:39.199 more story? Yeah, well that same class, man, I'll tell 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:42.080