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Speaker 2: Radio Man, Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly

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Speaker 2: here with Matt Williamson and well again, things are happening

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Speaker 2: across the NFL right now, including some Steeler news.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a little bit Steeler news and things are happening.

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Speaker 3: I bet something happens in the two hours around the

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Speaker 3: area without a doubt, something little or trade rumors, blah

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Speaker 3: blah blah, all kinds of stuff going on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for the Steelers today, they adjusted the contract of

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Speaker 2: linebacker Cole Holcombe. And when you say adjusted is a

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Speaker 2: key word there.

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Speaker 3: Adjusted is big here.

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Speaker 2: Yes, not a restructure, not renegotiated. They basically went to

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Speaker 2: Cole Holcomb and said, hey, you're on the books right

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Speaker 2: now for seven point I think was seven point three million.

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Speaker 3: Dollars between seven and eight.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to pay you seven. You can't count

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Speaker 2: seven point three million dollars against our cap and stay

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Speaker 2: on our roster.

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Speaker 3: We're going to cut you at that price.

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Speaker 2: Would you like to stay here in Pittsburgh? And Cole

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Speaker 2: Holkomb obviously said, yes, I would, I would be very

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Speaker 2: I would be very interested in that.

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Speaker 3: What can you baby, And it's exactly, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to go out into free agency having

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Speaker 2: put nothing on tape in the last you know, twenty months.

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Speaker 2: And they said, well, we can pay you this, and

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Speaker 2: he said, okay.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it. Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: And the savings, as is my understanding, is about five

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Speaker 2: million dollars.

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Speaker 3: So Cole hulkom so there's a post opening up seven

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Speaker 3: point whatever in cap space, they open up about five.

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Speaker 3: But you keep a good linebacker.

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Speaker 2: Right, and they would have he would have had a

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Speaker 2: one point six million dollars one point six four million

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Speaker 2: dollar caps so they would have saved five million dollars

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Speaker 2: if they just released him.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: The savings that they have is five million dollars.

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Speaker 3: For this year's cap.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, this is not This is not You have

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Speaker 2: to have a little bit of two three dimensional thinking here.

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Speaker 2: Not look at this two dimensionally and say, well, if

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Speaker 2: they do this, that means they must be you know

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Speaker 2: in the you know, having Cole hulkme on this guarantees

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Speaker 2: Cole hulkome nothing.

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Speaker 3: No, right, if he comes to camp and looks terrible.

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Speaker 3: He might not make the team.

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Speaker 2: He might not make the team, and they lose nothing.

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Speaker 2: It counts one point six million dollars against the cap,

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Speaker 2: but it's the same as if they had released him,

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Speaker 2: only they get to keep the player and he gets

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Speaker 2: to stay here and try out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and who knows what he is as a

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Speaker 3: player at this point, like he said, they don't know

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Speaker 3: twenty months or whatever. But I think that I think

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Speaker 3: it's a great move. I mean as opposed to I

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Speaker 3: think he's gonna be an NFL player this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think it's that catastrophic of an

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Speaker 3: for you know, his livelihood. I think he's got a

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Speaker 3: great chance to make the team. And at that price,

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Speaker 3: that's phenomenal. Youah, and right, And I've been asked a bonch.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you have too. Well. I really wanted them

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Speaker 3: to bring back Landon Roberts. This does nothing to affect

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Speaker 3: I don't think it matters at all. You could have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can resign to Land and Roberts tomorrow. That

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Speaker 2: has no effect in the Cole Holcombe situation, at all.

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Speaker 2: And all this does is guarantee. Let's say you get

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Speaker 2: don't have to scramble to go find somebody else to

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Speaker 3: No, I think he's a good player, and I didn't

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Speaker 3: want to of the guys that were pretty obvious cap cuts.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, it's been nice to see what he has.

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Speaker 3: Everybody liked what he did when he was here. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's Hammer Lambert, but he's a good player,

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Speaker 2: So you got to keep a good player at a

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Speaker 2: discounted price and the play Cole Holcomb understood. Look, man,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to go out and hit free agency

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Speaker 3: He is up after this year then, right? Yeah? I mean,

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Speaker 3: so make the team. Even if you're just a special

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Speaker 2: They could get to the end of training camp and say, hey, Cole,

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Speaker 3: You know, maybe they need you know.

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Speaker 2: Mark Robinson's probably gonna make the roster of you because

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Speaker 3: Yeah, would you be open? You know we're gonna we're

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Speaker 3: the whol Comb injury was very vague. It's like it's

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Speaker 3: he gonna be back, he's bad. I'm like, well, if

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Speaker 3: might get a fifth round pick out of him or

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Speaker 3: he can play. That's a good thing. Yeah, Or maybe

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Speaker 3: this guy's really good too, you know, and Roberts is

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Speaker 3: it's a bonus prize. I didn't see that guy.

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Speaker 2: If you're not a starter, you were eminently replaceable, sure

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Speaker 2: by someone who is younger and cheaper. Well, he just

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Speaker 2: got cheaper. He's got cheaper, right, so therefore.

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Speaker 3: You don't need to cut him.

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Speaker 2: Like it's a win win situation for both the player

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Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yeah. I mean there's a lot of these

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Speaker 3: that'd be fine. Something happened, you need him, he got him. Yep.

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Speaker 3: So I like this move a lot. But I don't remember.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure early in his career before he became a starter,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know at this point in his career

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I urge people because I wasn't even aware

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he still has that in post injury,

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Speaker 2: In some instances, when you have a catastrophic injury link

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Speaker 2: that you trained so hard to get back, yeah, you

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Speaker 2: actually get a little faster, sure, because you've strengthened all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, might be doing less taking on blocks

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Speaker 3: but you are strength and working on your explosive this

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Speaker 3: because you got to get that. You've got to.

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Speaker 2: Regain that, and you may not have had time to

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Speaker 3: Sure, sure, sure, you're trying to get the week the week.

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Speaker 2: It's like a you know, when pitchers tear their their

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Speaker 3: They're throwing harder than they did pre injury. That happened

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Speaker 2: You know, this guy's five miles an hour faster than

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Speaker 2: he was pre injury, like, how did that happen? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's actually worked on stringthening that area of his body.

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Speaker 3: Not to mention if you, you know, have a bad

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Speaker 3: a hiving you from benching like crazy. You're doing upper

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Speaker 3: the game day wear and tear pre.

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Speaker 2: Tell you for a fact, he was working out like

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Speaker 2: Around this time, he was working out constantly to the

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Speaker 2: why didn't they Why didn't they put them on the

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Speaker 3: You're gonna move somebody? All right? Right? Yeah, but he

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Speaker 3: could have been available, huh.

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Speaker 2: If they would have had an injury, which is what

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Speaker 2: have had an injury, an injury. These guys were ready

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Speaker 3: And he played one playoff game. If you'd went deep

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Speaker 2: Needed possibility, that would have changed that.

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Speaker 3: We're not worried about his health at all at this point, then.

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Speaker 2: No, he's medically cleared. They wouldn't have kept him around

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Speaker 3: And they'd like him as a football player, which I

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Speaker 3: do as well. Yeah, so no, I think it's a really.

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Speaker 2: Good move, but it does nothing to affect a land

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Speaker 3: But it isn't short. I mean, you don't know that

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Speaker 3: Roberts is going to Reinn, you know. I mean if

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Speaker 3: he gets a big offer elsewhere or whatever and he's gone, okay,

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Speaker 3: you don't think you have a linebacker need all of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And that's the interesting thing about this, if

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Speaker 2: you think about it, this will be the first off

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Speaker 2: season since twenty seventeen that the Steelers haven't gone into

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Speaker 2: the off season needing something inside linebackers.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I know, it's every year.

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Speaker 2: I mean, John Bostic, Morgan Burnett, Devin Bush, Marcus Allen,

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Speaker 2: Avery Williamson, Robert Spline, Joe Schobert, Miles Jack, Yeah, among others.

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Speaker 2: They played Marcus Allen was there. I mean, and there

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Speaker 2: were a lot of guys that they rolled through that

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Speaker 3: Even two years ago when they were just pulling dudes

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Speaker 3: you know, and then Queen's well, Bush is their biggest

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Speaker 3: though for them to go.

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Speaker 2: And you not only got Queen, but you also went

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Speaker 3: Will Queen be better this year than last? Yeah? Without question?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it just it seems odd to not have to

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Speaker 3: It's amazing. I know so little about that position group

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Speaker 3: That's like tight end position.

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Speaker 2: We're doing our triple take stuff and I was, I

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Speaker 3: Probably not, But it is a good group. It's a

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Speaker 3: I like that group, I mean the linebacker group, and

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Speaker 3: I could take her leave. I don't really care. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just I mean, you know, the areas of need

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Speaker 3: But no, they what we kind of brushed over is

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Speaker 2: Phase, so too, right, I mean, by doing nothing, by.

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Speaker 3: Doing nothing and keeping the player not like I mean,

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Speaker 2: Well you don't, you don't. Yeah, you're good, You're set.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a nice spot to be in, and

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Speaker 2: well they just starting to happen. Is that amount of

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Speaker 3: It so, and you know you've got other teams Cleveland restructures, Watson,

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Speaker 3: we don't need to do anything going doesn't give any

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Speaker 3: maneuverability to sign anyone. That just gets them to zero.

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Speaker 3: I know the Saints did a couple of things too,

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Speaker 3: but I mean they're just trying to get this yeah too.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's talking Seattle has been really busy lock

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Speaker 3: It amongst three or four other guys that got cut

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Speaker 3: by the Chargers. There's a lot more of that kind

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Speaker 3: of stuff going on. If you look at some cutsickets

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Speaker 3: still make to to make more.

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Speaker 2: If you had to do more, you can do more.

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Speaker 2: But they're in really great cap shape, and when you

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Speaker 3: They're not. They're not. The Bengals have a lot of space,

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Speaker 3: but they need like eight starters and they can well

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Speaker 3: they're not defensive players.

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Speaker 2: So right now, I think the Bengals have like fifty

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Speaker 2: two million. That doesn't count the T. Higgins franchise tag,

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Speaker 2: right right, right, that doesn't kick The franchise tag doesn't

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Speaker 2: kick in until the first day of the new league year,

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Speaker 2: right right. So of that fifty two that they have,

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Speaker 2: twenty seven is going to go right out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty seven goes out the window. And you have

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Speaker 2: to keep that space available because it's all if he

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Speaker 2: And he comes in and decides I'm going to sign.

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Speaker 3: The Yeah, you get in there. It is right, It's

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Speaker 3: it's really dead money at this point. And the other

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Speaker 3: news with them is Hendrickson asked for a trade. They said,

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Speaker 3: go ahead and you know, pursue it, which I think

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Speaker 3: he will get traded. I kind of thought that all along.

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Speaker 3: They have a lot of defensive cuts coming, but they

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Speaker 3: that just open. I mean, you cut a linebacker, your

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Speaker 3: The more stuff like nine new starters exactly exactly. So

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Speaker 3: when you like to cut the guard while ninety guard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you look at this off season, the Ravens

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Speaker 2: have twelve million dollars in cap space. They're not adding

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Speaker 3: They're gonna try to do everything possible, just like keep

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Speaker 3: a Stanley or somebody like that. I mean, that's the

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Speaker 3: best that they can do. There's a lot of talking

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Speaker 3: them trading Andrews, you know, that opens up like eight million.

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Speaker 2: The Browns obviously aren't doing anything. No, and the Bengals I.

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Speaker 3: Can't believe it. I mean, I guess I can believe.

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Speaker 3: But they restructured Watson again. What's his cap number? Counts?

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Speaker 2: Eighty three million next year? Yeah, fifty nine million in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Another is that more than I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's the newest numbers these, I believe in the newest

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Speaker 2: final year of his contract. Yeah, then it's another would

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Speaker 2: I say thirty eight million the year after that, and

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Speaker 2: then nineteen eighteen million? I think it's eighty something next year,

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Speaker 2: and it's eighty next year, yeah, yeah, fifty nine the

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Speaker 2: year after that, Okay, eighteen and twenty twenty eight, and

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Speaker 2: another seven million in twenty twenty nine. Those last two,

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Speaker 2: considering where the cap will probably be, I could live with,

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Speaker 2: but you know what they're gonna end I don't.

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Speaker 3: Think he's gonna throw another pass for the Brown.

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Speaker 2: They're going to end up kicking the can down the

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Speaker 3: Next year, I know, the same thing.

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Speaker 2: And increase those numbers in the years and just clear

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Speaker 2: dead money for a player who hasn't he threw his

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Speaker 2: last pass in the twenty twenty four season and they're

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Speaker 2: going to be paying for him until twenty twenty nine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's bad business. It's horrendous. I mean again, an

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Speaker 3: eighty million dollar cap hit next year, yeah, horrific fifty

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Speaker 3: is up right right right? They could have been out

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Speaker 3: of it, yeah, I mean they could have been. They

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Speaker 3: just ate their vegetables because like, man, this we made

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Speaker 3: him a huge mistake. Let's us live with it. Keeps them,

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Speaker 3: you know, start drafting dudes, go from here. But no,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna keep kicking it down the road. They just

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Speaker 3: needed to eat their vegetables.

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Speaker 2: Fifty nine million dollars next year would have got you know,

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Speaker 2: that's seven players that you could have signed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, at least quality quality players, right, starting safety,

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Speaker 3: started linebackers, et cetera, et cetera. For a team that

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Speaker 3: needs everything. I still don't understand their self awareness. We

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Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, we can finally start over. They actually

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Speaker 3: do have the most draft capital of any team in

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Speaker 3: the late eight they need right now because they've had

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Speaker 3: They've got no middle class nothing for three years, nothing

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Speaker 3: We had Tony Grossy on and I mean even if

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had Tony grossy On at the combine and

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Speaker 2: he said, yeah, they've just punted basically for three straight

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Speaker 3: Pack third round pick. I mean, their average picked on

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Speaker 2: Just it's not a good way to do business. You

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Speaker 2: have no cheap labor at all on that roster.

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Speaker 3: No, and it's aging quickly too. Conklin's and those type

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Speaker 2: So even though they have eleven picks, they're not eleven

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Speaker 3: Well, they do number two, I mean the but they

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Speaker 3: don't have a lot of them, right right, right, They've

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Speaker 2: All the other picks that they picked up along the way,

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Speaker 2: the Bills picks not early, you know. Yeah, they've got

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Speaker 2: some picks, but a lot of them are Day three picks. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's not going to help you.

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Speaker 3: This has to be And to me, I mean it's

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Speaker 3: a perfect time to say, Okay, goodbye to Botonio, who's

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Speaker 3: coming back. Don't kick the can down with Watson, trade

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Speaker 3: Garrett Vegetables, gets draft like crazy for two or three

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Speaker 3: if they take Sanders, I think that's you're gonna really stink. Insane. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're he's not able to elevate eyone like that, No,

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Speaker 2: So the Steelers are in great cap shape right now,

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Speaker 3: Oh with that question, and with fewer needs in like

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Speaker 3: the Bengals too, And the Bengals are the second most

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Speaker 3: space they need a lot, right now, Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: And if if Ronnie Stanley and Patrick McCarry leave the Ravens,

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Speaker 2: who are they signing that's comparable to either of them?

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Speaker 3: No? Right, maybe you can find well, I say, somebody

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Speaker 2: The reason the Bears made the moves that they did

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Speaker 2: we can plug this guy in though, right right, Like

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Speaker 2: Alex Kappa got scooped up right.

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Speaker 3: Away immediately because there's nothing else and he's not.

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Speaker 2: Very good, right right, he got five and a half million.

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Speaker 3: Dollars, like Danley's gonna make a fortune. Stanley's gonna get paid.

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Speaker 3: So like if I'm the Patriots, I almost can't spend

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Speaker 3: I mean, and you have to spend to a level.

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Speaker 3: You have to spend a level. I don't have enough

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Speaker 3: good guys on my team to give it to. You know,

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Speaker 3: just invest in my own I don't mind over spend

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Speaker 2: You know, I can give them five million more than

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Speaker 2: the Ravens are going to offer. Yeah, and his career right,

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Speaker 2: this is my last chance to cash in? Sure, sure,

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Speaker 2: I mean, why wouldn't you. The last time he cashed in,

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, I mean like this is a not

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Speaker 3: I don't know that he's going to be back. And

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Speaker 3: obviously I think they would have liked the franchise them.

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Speaker 3: They just don't have that kind of space.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't do it space that's twenty five million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, you can't. They can't do that. And then

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Speaker 3: they got Lenarbaum and uh that's looming up to right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, the Steelers are in their option

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Speaker 2: stuff right of the They're in great shape in terms

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Speaker 3: Think, I mean, draft aside, they definitely.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Bengals are going to improve defensively where

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Speaker 3: They so many resources, right, they're not going to be

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Speaker 3: able to go get six new starters on defense.

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Speaker 2: Right, I they they'll get six starters well, right, but

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Speaker 2: they'll be some of them might be placeholders.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they won't be eight million apiece, you know, start,

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Speaker 3: I mean like quality starters, right, So it's gonna some

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Speaker 2: And you could see that gap closing even more between

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Speaker 2: the Steelers and the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: I could definitely see that, and I wonder, are there

436
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Speaker 3: again the Steelers have more levers they could pull to

437
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Speaker 3: even create more cap space. But I got to think,

438
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Speaker 3: like we were talking yesterday and with Labs, they have

439
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Speaker 3: to be heading deep into conversations with the quarterback right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know that's going to be a significant cap hit.

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Speaker 2: You know well, I mean depending on how the contract destruction.

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Speaker 3: It's not gonna be fifty million in counts. It's not

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Speaker 3: going account anything. You're gonna have a ton of spending

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Speaker 3: power after you signed Fields or Wilson, right, no doubt. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So I don't think that's their next move. I'm not

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Speaker 3: worried about that part of it. No, No, you knew

447
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Speaker 3: that all along. They can go get a lot of

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Speaker 3: stuff in free agency. Again, a week from now they

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Speaker 3: may look really.

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Speaker 2: Different much so much so let's get through a break.

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Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson I am Dale Lolley. You're

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Speaker 2: listening to the Drive. You're on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: We will be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 3: At least.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation.

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Speaker 2: Radio and welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt free agency set to hit

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Speaker 2: the NFL when we come back here on Monday. It'll

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Speaker 2: start the there'll be lots of legal tampering period. The

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Speaker 2: legal tampering period. To me, I can remember back in

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Speaker 2: ninety six, Leon Searcy was hitting free agency with Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: Within sixty seconds of free agency four Oh. I remember

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Speaker 2: it was midnight because I was in I was still

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Speaker 2: at the newspaper and I was in the office at

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Speaker 2: night and free agency hit was early in the You know, this.

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Speaker 3: Stuff happened affair pretty often.

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Speaker 2: Within sixty seconds, Leon seriously had agreed to a five year,

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Speaker 2: seventeen million dollar contract, which at the time was a

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Speaker 2: ridiculous amount of money.

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Speaker 3: He was like the highest fay tackle the league. Yeah right,

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Speaker 3: he was really good. But they just agreed to it,

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Speaker 3: were able to whip it up that quick? Yeah quick, yeah,

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Speaker 3: now sixty seconds. So basically what they're telling us with

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Speaker 3: legal tampering is we know tampering's going to happen, so

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Speaker 3: we're gonna have this period. Well what to stop people

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Speaker 3: from doing it before the legal Tampa? If you're going

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Speaker 3: to tamper when it's on Tuesday, why not Tampa just Sunday?

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Speaker 3: You know, created a little bit of a process. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I get it. But I bet there was a conversation

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Speaker 3: in Indy.

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Speaker 2: You happened to run into something, or you call about

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Speaker 2: you have you have three clients on a team, your

485
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Speaker 2: fourth client is going to be a free agent. Well

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Speaker 2: you call to talk about the other guys, and stuff

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Speaker 2: happens exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm misusing the Steeler as an example. But whoever

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Speaker 3: Holcombe's agent was probably represents other people, right, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just how that works. Yeah, let's take a

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Speaker 2: look here. That's some guys.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if everyone listening even knows who's up

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Speaker 3: around the league, you know.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I've got the Pro Football Focus Top one

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Speaker 2: fifty here. Okay, they've expanded their list. They've updated this

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Speaker 2: March thir so March third, I should say, so it

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Speaker 2: doesn't include Joey Bosa for example, right now?

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Speaker 3: Oh, okay, have guys that are just right.

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Speaker 2: And no, the Steelers will not be interested in Joey Bosa.

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Speaker 3: No, I think he signs a one year prove of

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Speaker 3: deal with that injury history. Yeah, you know. Yeah, maybe

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Speaker 3: it was San Francisco, but wherever. Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if they have the money to do it. But no,

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Speaker 3: I don't think it'll be that expensive because he's so injured. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh, t Higgins and Trey Smith are both still on

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Speaker 2: here because technically they're both still available if you want

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Speaker 2: to give up a couple of first round draft picks

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Speaker 2: to get them.

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Speaker 3: Not going to happen. Number three on their left, boy,

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Speaker 3: Justin has broke some news for us. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: don't love it. Christian Kirk being traded to the Texans.

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Speaker 3: That's why I would have been proactive, right, I guess

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Speaker 3: he wasn't officially cut yet, That's why I would have.

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Speaker 2: Well, see, that's what the news leaks out, that the

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Speaker 2: guy is going to be They don't cut. The cut

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Speaker 2: doesn't happen right away exactly, they intend to cut him. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then yeah, a team calls up and says, hey,

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Speaker 2: how about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever the pick would be, which is what I

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Speaker 3: you know what, I would use it exactly. I think yesterday,

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Speaker 3: we've said it for weeks, given up seven for that

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Speaker 3: that contract. If you remember when he signed that deal

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Speaker 3: with Jacksonville, people are lose their mind, like okay, and

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Speaker 3: that kind of money for Christian Kirk. It did seem

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Speaker 3: a little high at the time, but then you look

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Speaker 3: at six months later, it's like that kind of a bargain. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's sixteen sixteen point five million this year.

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Speaker 3: I mean they're trading him in division just to get

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Speaker 3: something out of it. Yeah. I would have Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: would have been on top of that. I would have

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Speaker 3: done it. Sixteen point five million, would have I would

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Speaker 3: have done it. But anyways, Javon Holland the Steelers aren't

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Speaker 3: going to be inswers there. Christial Godwin, I don't think

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Speaker 3: he's gonna leave Tampa when it's all said and done,

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Speaker 3: And if he does, it's gonna be that Stanley conversation

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Speaker 3: where a team like the Patriots gives him a on

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Speaker 3: god number seven million dollars a year.

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Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, yeah, I don't see the Steelers in the sky.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. He had a great year before his injury though too.

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Speaker 3: I guess his ankle wasn't just a basic ankle injury

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Speaker 3: though either.

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Speaker 2: He just looked completely dislocates it. When you dislocate your

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Speaker 2: ankle like that, or a knee or whatever, you probably

544
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Speaker 2: tore some ligaments.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was more than just your runner.

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Speaker 2: And at the very least you've stretched him beyond what

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Speaker 2: they should be stretched.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and then it takes time for the kind

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Speaker 3: of I mean, I if Tampa resigns them, they're obviously

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Speaker 3: not worried about that at all. But Khalil mack No

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Speaker 3: won't be a Steeler Edge guys aren't still get a

552
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Speaker 3: decent buck yea one or two year.

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Speaker 2: Deal, DJ Reid, I would have some interest in.

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Speaker 3: Really good scheme fit. He's the right age. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if he'll be the highest paid corner or not,

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Speaker 3: but he's gonna be real close, I mean, at the

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Speaker 3: top of the mark of the of the list. But

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Speaker 3: as we go through this, it's pretty easy to see

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Speaker 3: that corner is about the deepest position and free agency

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Speaker 3: of guys you would like you want to maybe fish

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Speaker 3: in this pack just grab one of them, now, you know,

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Speaker 3: and he'd be maybe the top of my list. I mean,

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Speaker 3: right near the top of the list.

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Speaker 2: They have Amari Cooper number seven on their list.

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Speaker 3: I went back and watched him more and did more homework.

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Speaker 3: In the last twenty four hours or so, he might

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Speaker 3: be done. I mean, I kind of blamed his injury

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Speaker 3: and getting on the moving tracks of Buffalo, but I

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Speaker 3: didn't like what I saw last blush. He's had a

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Speaker 3: good career, but man, he's still only thirty though.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, but I'd rather go that route

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Speaker 2: than DeAndre Hopkins or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Agreed, But last year was not great for Cooper.

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Speaker 2: He is two years removed from having like twelve hundred yards.

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Speaker 2: He couldn't have fallen off.

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Speaker 3: He's had a great career. He didn't have fallen off

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Speaker 3: the cliff that far. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what I wonder is how much of it

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Speaker 2: Well he didn't look fast. Is he thinking too much

580
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Speaker 2: out there because he doesn't know the offense?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. He just wasn't separating and he had

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Speaker 3: a hard time getting playing time in Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Ronnie Stanley we talked about he's gonna get paid huge,

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Speaker 2: gonna get paid. Yeah, Sam Donald gonna get paid. People

585
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Speaker 2: thinking that that, well, the Steelers should sign Sam Donald

586
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Speaker 2: for thirty million years.

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Speaker 3: It ain't happening. No, It'll be more than that. It's

588
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Speaker 3: gonna be way more than that. I think he's a

589
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Speaker 3: raider or a titan, maybe a giant.

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Speaker 2: Josh Sweat Now, like we had an edge, would you

591
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Speaker 2: kick guitires on Stefan Diggs?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because Adams aside. That's where I was starting this project,

593
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Speaker 3: is digging into these older receivers that everyone thinks are done,

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Speaker 3: you know, the Keenan Allen's and the Hopkins and Cooper

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Speaker 3: and Diggs Diggs. I mean, Adams is better than all

596
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Speaker 3: of them. Diggs is the next best to me. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think he's still a good football player, and I

598
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Speaker 3: think the Texans were quite happy with him when he

599
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Speaker 3: got hurt. Yeah, I mean he was evan yeah, an impact. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would. And he's different from George Pickens. Oh, he's

601
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Speaker 3: a rout runner, he's a technician. He's had some personality

602
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Speaker 3: stuff too, But a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: His position do Hasan Reddick. No, No, Charvarius Ward. I

604
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Speaker 2: would be interested in Charvarius Ward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah. Yeah, he's gonna be another expensive quality starting corner.

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Speaker 3: But all these corners i'd be interested in. Yeah Douglas,

607
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Speaker 3: No him, not as much. No, he's a little older,

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Speaker 3: little stiffer. I think they want to bring him back

609
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Speaker 3: to Yeah, that's when I wouldn't be in on Dicky

610
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Speaker 3: Zoo was is still on here for some reason. Yeah,

611
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Speaker 3: he's resigned.

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Speaker 2: He's done Cameron buying them the safety with the Vikings. No,

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Speaker 2: Milton Williams. I've gotten a lot of Milton Williams questions,

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Speaker 2: and I.

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Speaker 3: Can see why a lot of people would. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they just won the Super Bowl. He's a rapidly ascending player.

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00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 3: He was drafted as a project, you know, great tester,

618
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Speaker 3: et cetera, who's coming into his own I just think

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Speaker 3: you'd to go shopping on the draft waters with him.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing with Milton Williams. So yesterday we traded

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Speaker 2: up in our draft to go get Nolan, to go

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Speaker 2: get Nolan. Milton Williams is the same exact size as

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Speaker 2: Walter Nolan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when we made our trade up, people just crushed

626
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Speaker 2: us for making get Milton or get the Walter Nolan.

627
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Speaker 2: He's not big enough to play three four ends.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah this in this Yeah he is, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's and they don't need him to be six or

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Speaker 3: five anymore.

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Speaker 2: He's he's he can't play the nose. Well, no kidding,

632
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna ask her to play the nose. But

633
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Speaker 2: if you like Milton Williams, why wouldn't you like Walter Nolan?

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Speaker 2: I mean, Williams is better at this point, but he's

635
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Speaker 2: also older. He's older, and he's gonna be a lot

636
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Speaker 2: more He's twenty six years old and he's gonna be

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Speaker 2: a lot more expensive.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you were to get involved with the

639
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Speaker 3: Milton Williams, I think you immediately move on from Ogan

640
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Speaker 3: Jobie and you go fishing for a nose in the draft,

641
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 3: which isn't terrible. I mean I would understand that route.

642
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: You have the money to do it, but I mean

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Speaker 3: it's such a good deat tackle draft. Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Byron Murphy at eighteen, he's another one. I'd be very

645
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: interesting corner really the youngest.

646
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Speaker 3: Of that group. Yeah, outside of the kid from Samuel

647
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 3: Samuel Samuel Junior, Samuel Junior.

648
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: But Byron Murphy's like twenty six, can play inside and outside.

649
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it takes ball away. I mean, he's a good player, and.

650
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: Really, to me, he would be the perfect fit because

651
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: I can play him in the slot. If I want

652
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: to get Corey Trice playing time, Yeah, I can. On

653
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: passing downs. I can bring Trice in and let him

654
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: play on the outside. Bump Murphy into the end of

655
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: the slot. I've made, you know, two spots particularly potentially better.

656
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 3: Or that the Iowa State dude Porter is there. In

657
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: the second round, I can still take Azra Thomas or

658
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 3: one of those dudes. You could still take them, and

659
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: you know, figure it out from there. Yeah, the Murphy

660
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 3: might be my favorite. Murphy and Reed are my two favorites.

661
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 2: Malcolm Coon Seid Rusher from the Raiders. No Cam Robinson

662
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: the Vikings offensive tackle.

663
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 3: No him and Dan Moreganna make some money. They're gonna

664
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: make some money. They're starting left tackle, and folks, you

665
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 3: should want that to happen exactly exactly. Drake Greenlaw the

666
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: linebackers for James Daniels to all those guard movement right,

667
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: it won't be obviously.

668
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: Justin Fields is number twenty two on this list. Okay,

669
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 2: Zach Bond has already resigned again. This came out yes

670
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: the third Aaron Jones.

671
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 3: I still think he's got a lot of juice in

672
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 3: the tank, but I wouldn't. I'm not going I'm not

673
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 3: going into that. I know.

674
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: Soone interested ie hearing people throw around names they need

675
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 2: to sign JK. Dobbins, they need to Like, I'm not

676
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: interested in signing any free agent running.

677
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: The only one I'm slightly interested in is Nick Chubb.

678
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 3: And he'd have to be much interested in that because

679
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 3: if he's because he's two years removed, if he's out

680
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: there ten days from twenty nine, oh, I know, I know.

681
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not giving him much money.

682
00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: I mean no, I'm not giving him any money. But

683
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 2: Aaron Jones. Now Carlton Davis with the Lions.

684
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 3: Jones should go to a contender though, and could help him. Yeah,

685
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: if he's with Denver, you know whatever. Who was the

686
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 3: last one, Carlton Davis. I'm interested in him too, absolutely corner. Yeah,

687
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 3: another corner. Yeah, center Drew Dolman from the Falcons. He's

688
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: getting a lot of buzz because there' he's like best

689
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: is the only one and this draft sucks, its terrible. Yeah,

690
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: these four or five teams that really need a center.

691
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 3: He's gonna make some money. Uh, but he was, I

692
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 3: mean not the Steelers want him, but I mean he

693
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: was with Arthur Smith. He's a pure zone center. They'd

694
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 3: love that. That's the kind of guy they would mind having.

695
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: Telling Noah Hafanga with the safety with the forty nine Ers,

696
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 2: no Will Fries guard with the Colts, make a lot

697
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: of money too, guard, Tevin Jenkins with the Bears, Well,

698
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: he'll be moving on. Yeah, and that should tell you

699
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: they went out and traded Fortu saying he's that high

700
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: on the list. Yeah. I Saante Samuel Junior, who he mentioned. Interesting,

701
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: I'm not as interested his injury history.

702
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: Injury is bad.

703
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: Like, that's one of the reasons why you're not re

704
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: signing Dante Jackson because of his injury history.

705
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 3: And he just went through that. He's twenty four years old.

706
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 3: He's got like three ageries.

707
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Like give me, give me at least one

708
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: full season, at least one.

709
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 3: That's yeah. I wonder if he ends up signing a

710
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 3: wind deal.

711
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: Nick Bolton linebacker with the Chiefs.

712
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 3: No, but he does well, but he won't be a Steeler.

713
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,719
Speaker 3: Kevin Zeitler with the Lions. I think he's gonna make

714
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 3: some money too. On a contender and he's like, he's

715
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 3: thirty four years old. That's the thing. One year deal

716
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: rent him. You know, I could see him be Tooney's

717
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 3: replacement something like that, if he go to Baltimore again,

718
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: something like that. Mike Kilton, Yeah, no, that's a line

719
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: player that when he hits a wall, it's gonna be small.

720
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 3: He's gonna be bugg on a windshield when he hit

721
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 3: the wall. DeAndre Hopkins, No, have to be a remarkably

722
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: good deal, but boy, he does not move long anymore.

723
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 3: James Daniels, you want him to sign for big money? Yeah, hope.

724
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 3: He's one hundred percent healthy.

725
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: Somebody brought up again on the on the message board

726
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: today on YouTube, why don't you just cut Saamalu and

727
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: resigned James Daniels. They obviously feel Sayamalu is a better

728
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: player they've been. It's been pretty obvious.

729
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: He's also the leader in the line room and there's

730
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 3: value with that kind of stuff too.

731
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: I mean, James Daniels once he got hurt, was never

732
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: around the facility again, Like that tells you he never

733
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: cut Seamalu.

734
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 3: I mean, if you if you've stumbled into a guard

735
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 3: and somebody offers you a pick and training camp. That's different,

736
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 3: sens a bad message. Yeah. Yeah, Tyron Smith, I think

737
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: he could be a chief or retire or retire or

738
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 3: you know, miss ten games next year. Yeah. Marquise Brown,

739
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 3: he's gonna make some money, probably too much. He doesn't

740
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 3: do it for me for the Steelers now too small.

741
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 3: Juwan Johnson not for the Steelers. No, he's an interesting

742
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 3: piece and on another tight end. No, not a move guy,

743
00:33:54,600 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: especially Darius Slayton. Yes, but we were what event we

744
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 3: were with Jeremy Fowlers said, don't be surprised that was okay. Yeah,

745
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: I don't remember sitting down with him, but it was

746
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 3: at Senior Bowls. That wasn't there. I think he's gonna

747
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: make more than you think too. The three of them,

748
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: I think are gonna make a lot. Or Hollywood Slayton

749
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 3: and Believe or not. Then Tommie Brown, I think is

750
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: gonna get paid. I mean I would be. I would

751
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 3: call their agents, but I have a feeling they might

752
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 3: outprice them.

753
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 2: Slate is my favorite guy of that group. Yes, yes, yes,

754
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 2: Baron Browning the edge rusher for the Cardinals.

755
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 3: I'm a fan, but not for the Steelers. Yeah.

756
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: Levi Ozareque, the defensive lineman for the Lions.

757
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: Kay, I don't think so. Yeah, Makai Becton, I think

758
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 3: he's gonna make decent money to get paid. Du Asad

759
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 3: y ying Bo, the edge dude. Yeah, the edge rusher

760
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 3: for the Colts. Yeah, I won't be a Steeler.

761
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen. I don't think I'm not interested in Keenan Allen.

762
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 3: No, I'm almost And he wants to be on the

763
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 3: West Coast as well, that's home. I think he could

764
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: still be a move the chains possession, big slot for you,

765
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: but you don't have somebody like him.

766
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, I want something more explosive and younger.

767
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. I mean again, if you were to

768
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: sign him or Hopkins or any of those, even Diggs,

769
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 3: who I like better than all those dudes, You're not done.

770
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 3: I don't think either.

771
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, Yeah, yeah, I think where we're Bobby Wagner

772
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 2: at forty six.

773
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 3: Those two can't get away from each other. Yeah, I

774
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 3: wonder if he goes back to Washington.

775
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: Alaric Jackson he resigned, Yeah yeah, and Dan Moore at

776
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 2: forty eight.

777
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: He's gonna make money Najee Harris at forty nine. You

778
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 3: hope he makes money. I think he'll do well.

779
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: I think he'll do Yeah, it's not gonna be you know,

780
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 2: eight million dollars a year, but I bet he gets six.

781
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet he asks for eleven. You're not gonna

782
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 3: get yet. Chase Young, No, he'll make money though, he'll

783
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 3: make money. Justin Reid, good player, but they only safety.

784
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Azizo Jalari another edge rusher, DJ Hill? Would you

785
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: be interested in DJ Hill?

786
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: BJ Hill? DJ? I'm sorry BJ Okay because there's DJ

787
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 3: Jones too. I like better than BJ Hill. They're both

788
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 3: the tackles. Uh. I think you're kind of settling. Yeah,

789
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 3: I think so. I would rather better like that. Don't know,

790
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 3: you're improved. I mean like, would he have been useful

791
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 3: last year? Sure? Klais Campbell. I mean if him and

792
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: Cam Haywards want to be old men friends and we

793
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 3: want to sign a cheap deal. Yeah, you know, but

794
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 3: again I mean very limited snaps. He can still play,

795
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 3: He can still play. I mean he's career douse.

796
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 2: You hope for Cam Hayward, Oh, no, doubt both.

797
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 3: You know. Walter Payton Man of the Year. You know

798
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 3: Harrison Smith, he's a Viking.

799
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 2: DeMarcus Lawrence, Trayvon Mowrigg Morgan, Moses, none of those. Ernest Jones,

800
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: linebacker for the Seahawk, Brandon Shurf the guard for the Jaguars.

801
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 3: It's I mean, it's not a it's it's not a

802
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 3: real deep group. JK.

803
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 2: Dobbins. No people who want JK.

804
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 3: Dobbins. I'm like, he's gone more than he didn't. You're

805
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: a goldfish.

806
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: You not remember I loved the player when he was

807
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 2: coming out of college, but the injury history is extensive.

808
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: I mean he signed like a league minimum deal with

809
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 3: charge last year. I mean he's made more than that.

810
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 3: That's why I brought Chubb. If you get him at

811
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: like a league minimum two or three million dollar deal, sure,

812
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: And I'm still drafting.

813
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: On Dante Fowler, Patrick McCarry, uh Chauncety Golston the addresser

814
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: for the Cowboys. Jamie Sherwood, linebacker for the Jets.

815
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 3: He's a good player that people don't know but don't need.

816
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: Linebacker Stefan Gilmour at this point.

817
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: Is no, I'm not. It's Patrick Peterson, Levante David is

818
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 2: the same thing. Justin Simmons the same thing. Jedrick Wills. No, Yeah,

819
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: somebody's gonna give him money. There's enough if he was

820
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: sitting there, Yeah, he'd need to be sitting out there

821
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: for you know, his tape is bad.

822
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do like former first round pedigrees, guys

823
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: that get ignored if ten days in the free agency,

824
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 3: is still out there once a discount.

825
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just going to hit on the positions of

826
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 2: need here just from this point on. Uh.

827
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: Jonathan Jones with the Patriots. He's a little older than

828
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: I thought too. That clicked on him today, thinking he

829
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 3: was twenty seven or twenty eight. I think he's thirty

830
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 3: or thirty one. Yeah, he's a little older. I would

831
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: ain't bigger. I mean that's a Dabo is a corner.

832
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 3: We haven't brought up that. I like a lot. Uh.

833
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: Jaron Reid defensive tackle from the Seahawks.

834
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: He's another one of those old games. Yeah, I mean

835
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 3: he's okay, he's not it'd be more nosy again late

836
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: in the process. If he wants a one year, five

837
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 3: million dollar deal, you'd use them. He'd be useful against

838
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 3: the ravens poona Ford. He should be way higher on

839
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 3: that list. He should be a he's a would player.

840
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: He gets he's so disrupted, he gets pushed down because

841
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 2: he's well, he's not ideal size.

842
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 3: I don't care. He just makes places, I know. I mean,

843
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 3: I'd rather go after like Hardgrave. Right, he's not gonna

844
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 3: be on that.

845
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: He's not on the list yet because he's gonna get

846
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: released Wednesday.

847
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: But I don't know the Ford fits here. But his

848
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 3: tape is good. He's like five to ten.

849
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: He played and they played almost It's not the same defense,

850
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: but they play a similar style of defense. And with

851
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 2: the Chargers. No, he didn't run against the Chargers last year.

852
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: No, he really played well.

853
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, GASICKI No, Deontay Johnson knew.

854
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 3: I wouldn't. Kind of interesting you ends up getting. I'm

855
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 3: sure it'll be a one year deal.

856
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: But Tershawn Wharton with the Chiefs again like the am

857
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 2: higher the rotational piece.

858
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mentioned DJ Jones with the Broncos that him

859
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 3: and Hardgrave are the two veterans i'd have the most interested.

860
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: Wharton played sixty percent of the snaps this year for.

861
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a starter. Yeah, I mean he's a good player.

862
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 3: Tierre Tar with the Chargers. Uh, he's kind of hard

863
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 3: to count.

864
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: Rotational player, Yeah, famous Jamis No, No Winston, Yeah, Nate Hobbs.

865
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 3: We've talked about him a lot. Yeah, bigger slot corner.

866
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: He's had time. I mean he's had some moments. Paulson

867
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 3: a debo. I'm a fan. You like him, I don't

868
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: like him as much. Yeah, he's coming off a broken leg.

869
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 3: I think a femur or something.

870
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: He gets he gets thrown at, like the receiver is

871
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 2: wide open.

872
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 3: He gets thrown out a fair amount. But he makes

873
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 3: a lot of plays on the ball to Well.

874
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: When you get thrown at that much, you're going to

875
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 2: make plays.

876
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 3: Pretty And I'm a fan.

877
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 2: I don't I don't necessarily see it. Let's see Bobby

878
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: Splain on that lister Nick chubbed down at eighty nine.

879
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where I pay him was and he might

880
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: do better than that.

881
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 2: Yeah might, he might not. Might be shot. Yeah that's

882
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 2: pretty much.

883
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 3: Well.

884
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 2: DJ Jones is there. How maybe it's yeah a little

885
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 2: bit older than that. Maybe I'm not super interested in old.

886
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 3: Guys, old d lyman don't super excitement.

887
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: No, like you know, when the uh the egos moved

888
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 2: on from cornerback yesterday, Uh, Sleigh and bar Yeah, Darius

889
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 2: Slay's thirty four years old. I'm not interested in thirty

890
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: four year old Darius Slay. I'd be interested in twenty

891
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: four year old Darius Slay. Yeah, interested in twenty eight

892
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: year old enough money. You don't have to settle for this.

893
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 2: Don't settle for that, right like you had to.

894
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 3: Like if you if you had Peterson, if you if

895
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 3: you went after five of those other ones, got shut

896
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: out on all. Yeah, settled for Slay some mighty use

897
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 3: the first round pick on court. Right, That doesn't solve

898
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 3: your need. You don't know.

899
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: He might not still be able to play, like you

900
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: did that with Patrick Peterson because you had to because

901
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 2: you didn't have the cap space. And see, you have

902
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: a better tried to sign Patrick Peterson the first time

903
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: he was a free agent a few years before that,

904
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 2: when I'd been a little price, it would have been

905
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 2: a lot pricier. Yeah, you're going to get a discount

906
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: on Darius Slay at this point, But do you want

907
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: him right?

908
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 3: Right? Right? It doesn't mean he's the answer. No, it

909
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 3: might be a value, yeah, Mike Williams, I would consider it, Yeah,

910
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 3: but it'd be late in the process, especially if I'm

911
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 3: moving on from Pickens. I mean, give me a big

912
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: downfield guy.

913
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 2: And the last guy, well, a couple guys are Christian

914
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: Fulton cornerback with the Chargers.

915
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 3: Be a consolation prize, I mean constantly. I mean Fulton,

916
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 3: then a second round pick would be good at corner. Right.

917
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: Josh Palmer wide receiver. He brought him up. I like

918
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 3: Josh Palmer, like Josh.

919
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 2: Palmer physical, He's not the answer, but when he's when

920
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 2: he but I'd rather than Van Jefferson, you know, when

921
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: he's been given the opportunity when they didn't have Keenan Allen,

922
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: when they when when Keenan Allen and Mike Williams were out.

923
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Josh Palmer had good games. We had good games,

924
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: and he could play slot, he could play outside. I

925
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: don't think it'd be real expensive. I don't dislike it.

926
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: I think he's I mean, he would he be your

927
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 2: automatic number two.

928
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 3: No, no, but but if it if you ended up

929
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 3: with the guys you have now Josh Palmer and Matthew Golden. Yeah,

930
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: now you now you gotta say yeah yeah and use

931
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 3: them situationally different than you would Austin or Wilson.

932
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, let's get to a break. He is

933
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to

934
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 2: the drives.

935
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 3: Mentioned all the cut dudes attractive, right, More about the Adams, Yeah,

936
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 3: Cooper Cops some of them right lists. Yeah, but uh,

937
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 3: they haven't been cut yet. That's that's the thing, right

938
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: right right, just like Christian Kirk.

939
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: Like Christian Kirk. Uh, let's get through a break. He's

940
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie.

941
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 3: This is the drive on the Steelers Audio Network.

942
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 1: At least, he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

943
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

944
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

945
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,479
Speaker 3: And we are back.

946
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson.

947
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: And Bob over here mixing it up on the Baseball Dive.

948
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 3: Mean they'll go Spike and Lawley. I'll tell you that, no, no,

949
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 3: I do not. I did not didn't respond well to

950
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 3: the spikeage.

951
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 2: Obviously played I played sports with a little bit of

952
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: an edge, just a bit anyways, So Trey Henderson, yeah,

953
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: now seeking a trade. Miles Garrett wants to be traded.

954
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 3: This is the off season of permission to seek a

955
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: trade person trade.

956
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 2: If I'm Damn Moore, I'm going I'm getting out of

957
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: the a f C North with all these and know

958
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: all these guys, all these clowns want to get out

959
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: of the AFC North too.

960
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 3: What's going on with this? It reminds me of like

961
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 3: when the Steelers got Fields and then they're like, well,

962
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 3: we're gonna go pick up DJ I mean all the

963
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 3: stuff that the Bears got, and then Arthur Smith comes

964
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 3: here and like, we're gonna get Kirk, Cousins and Pennix

965
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 3: for the in Atlanta. Thanks a lot. I had Hariota

966
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: and Ritter, you know. I mean that's great. Matt Ryan

967
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: was a shell of himself, right, It's good. Point by

968
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 3: More though, like, boy, the a lot of the pass

969
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 3: rushers in the division could be on their way out. Yeah,

970
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 3: I's thinking I'm gonna get away from these guys. They

971
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 3: may all go the same division division again. He's like,

972
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 3: come on, man, I do think Hendrickson gets traded. I

973
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 3: do too. I actually think Garrett does too, eventually.

974
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, because I think if Garrett doesn't get traded,

975
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 2: I think he starts sitting out games.

976
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 3: I don't think he plays again for the Browns. I

977
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 3: think he's that determined in his ways, and I think

978
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 3: his personality is that way. I've made my mind up.

979
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 3: I'm not playing for the Browns again. You can get

980
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: draft picks for me, or I won't play.

981
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 2: The Cleveland It's like Cleveland dot com or whatever it

982
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 2: is or whatever their newspaper site is. One of their

983
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: their writers put out a story Mary kay Cabit. I'll

984
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: just say, yeah, he's out there. It's she put it

985
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: out there.

986
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: Uh.

987
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: Does Joel Botonio announcing he's not retiring convinced Miles Garrett

988
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 2: to return to the Browns. I'm like, oh, yeah, I

989
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: could see Miles Garrett going, well, I mean, if Joel's back, right,

990
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 2: why not me?

991
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 3: He's had a really good career. But even if you

992
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 3: were John Hannah and Larry Allen rolled into one, he's

993
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 3: a guard on a back team.

994
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: Joe Thomas could announce he's not retired, right, well, I'm

995
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: gonna retire. That wouldn't affect Miles Garrett one iota.

996
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 3: No, and it shouldn't. I mean, that's not going to

997
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: move the needle in terms of contender.

998
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: The W'll give him a quarterback right right, right? Or

999
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: defensive you know help or.

1000
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,479
Speaker 3: And I think they're to get Kirk Cousins and bring

1001
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: back the Botonio's and like we're in this thing.

1002
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousin behind that offensive line might as well wear

1003
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: a target.

1004
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 3: Right at least you know some of the pass rushers

1005
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 3: are leaving the division, not from the Pittsburgh, from the Steelers, Steelers,

1006
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 3: not at all anyways. That's that's gonna do it. For

1007
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: hour number one.

1008
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 2: We went long on the last second through a bunch

1009
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 2: of free eight. Let's let's get to another break. We'll

1010
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: be back with our number number two. He's Matt Williamson.

1011
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the drive here

1012
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network.