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Speaker 1: I've ever been left waiting by the phone, It's the Fredshell.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Mark, good morning, welcome to the program. How are

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Speaker 2: you yea good morning? How are you doing? Okay? What's

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Speaker 2: going on with this woman Casey?

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Speaker 1: We got to know how you met, about any dates

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Speaker 1: you've been on, and then why you think you're being ghosted?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So I met Casey on one of the dating apps

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Speaker 3: that are obviously very popular, and wh she had it

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Speaker 3: for a bit, I got her number and we both

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Speaker 3: sort of planned a date. I'm pretty assertive, and so

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Speaker 3: I wanted to kind of get right into it and

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Speaker 3: get into a sort of a meet and greet. It's

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Speaker 3: because you know, it's easy to get lost in the

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Speaker 3: next because you don't pretty much on these apps. We

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Speaker 3: both lived in the suburbs, so I picked a place

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Speaker 3: to meet for dinner and we had a great meal.

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Speaker 3: You know, I really felt like we had fun, and

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Speaker 3: you know, before we parted ways at the end of

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Speaker 3: the night, I suggested to he, Hey, what's havevin dinner again?

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Speaker 3: And she agreed. She thought it was a good idea,

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Speaker 3: but she hasn't responded to me since the date. It

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Speaker 3: was previously pretty quick to apply to my texes and stuff,

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Speaker 3: but something changed and I just don't know what happened.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so I like it. You know you

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Speaker 1: matched with her. It's hey, let's get right to this,

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Speaker 1: because you're right. What happens is, you know, people are

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Speaker 1: matching constantly or getting more than one match and then

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Speaker 1: trying to juggle, and then you get lost in the

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Speaker 1: process on the dating apps if you haven't been on them,

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Speaker 1: and so you're like, hey, I want to meet you.

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Speaker 1: I'm attracted to you. You seem cool. It's going a date.

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Speaker 1: You planned it, you went, you suggested the place. Even

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Speaker 1: I mean, this dude planned the date. It wasn't okay,

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Speaker 1: let's go out and then what do you want to do?

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Speaker 1: And you know, and then basically make the other person

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Speaker 1: plan the date like I tend to do. But nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: all of this went well. You even asked for confirmation

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Speaker 1: at the end of the date. Am I going to

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Speaker 1: see you again? She said yes? But you're now you're

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Speaker 1: being ghosted. Now you're not getting any responses from her,

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Speaker 1: and you want to know why.

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Speaker 3: That's You're right, like, the date went well, and we

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Speaker 3: made a plan to each other again, but now I

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Speaker 3: haven't heard from her.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's play a song. Mark.

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Speaker 1: We'll come back in a couple of minutes. We'll call Casey.

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Speaker 1: You'll be on the phone. We're going to see if

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Speaker 1: we can get her on the phone, ask the questions

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Speaker 1: on your behalf. You're welcome to jump in at some point,

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Speaker 1: and the hope is that we can straighten all of

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Speaker 1: this out and then set you guys up on another date,

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Speaker 1: the second date that we pay for.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, sounds good. Thank you. Hey, Mark, let's call Casey.

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Speaker 1: You guys met on one of the apps and you

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Speaker 1: planned a date, You went out, you went to dinner,

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Speaker 1: you thought everything went really well. You asked her on

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Speaker 1: the date, Hey, you want to go on another date?

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Speaker 1: She said yeah, except you've reached out to plan that

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Speaker 1: date and she hasn't responded to.

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Speaker 2: You at all. And you want to know why you're

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Speaker 2: being ghosted?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I would love to look at exactly.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's call Casey now, good luck, Mark. Hello, Hi

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Speaker 1: is this Casey?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, this is she?

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Speaker 1: Hi Casey, Good morning. My name is Fred. I'm calling

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Speaker 1: from the Fred Show, the morning radio show. The whole

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Speaker 1: crew is here, and I do have to tell you

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Speaker 1: that we are on the radio right now, and I

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Speaker 1: would need your permission to continue with the call.

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Speaker 2: Can we chat for just a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 1: You can hang up anytime, okay, Okay, I guess okay, well, good,

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Speaker 1: thank you. I'll no, it does happen, and I'll take

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Speaker 1: it as a yes. But we're calling on behalf of

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Speaker 1: a guy who reached out to us. This name is Mark.

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Speaker 1: I guess you met him on one of the dating apps.

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Speaker 1: You guys had dinner recently. Do you remember meeting Mark?

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Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, yeah, I do.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, he called us and had nice things to

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Speaker 1: say about you, that he was excited to meet you

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Speaker 1: and planned a date. Said he guys went to dinner.

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Speaker 1: He says he asked you on the date if he

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Speaker 1: He then said that he's been reaching out trying to

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Speaker 1: in any way. We had no trouble getting a hold

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Speaker 1: of you, So what's what's the issue?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I guess, uh yeah, I guess he hasn't

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, why would he need why would he need

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Speaker 1: to get the hints if you told him, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying you did anything wrong, but you said you

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Speaker 2: But what happened?

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Speaker 4: Okay, I feel about that, and Okay, I guess I

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Speaker 4: get Can I tell you about our date and I

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, he said that you guys met in.

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Speaker 1: The suburbs because you both live in the suburbs and

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Speaker 1: you met at a restaurant.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so then yeah, great, Yeah, we had like a

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Speaker 4: really nice banter before. You know, he had attractive pictures

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Speaker 4: and he took me to Olive Garden for dinner, which

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Speaker 4: is which is fine. You know, like you know, maybe

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Speaker 4: my other first date, they're usually at non chain restaurant.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I don't I don't really hate

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Speaker 1: Olive Garden. I mean, I don't know if that's so

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Speaker 4: He picked it like a chain, which is you know,

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Speaker 4: actually I don't have a problem with Olive Garden either.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's down to earth. It's a it's a

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Speaker 4: pretty down to earth choice for him to make, and

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Speaker 4: you know, it's good to good looking and charming. I

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Speaker 4: guess it was just a little less charming when it

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Speaker 4: was time to order. Uh, Like he went for the

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Speaker 4: never ending possible, which is cool. You know that's not

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Speaker 4: a big deal. Yeah, it's great and it is.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of value, a lot of value there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, eat as much as you want, okay, all right, okay.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so yeah, but that was exactly what Mark wanted

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Speaker 5: to do. He made it clear from the start that

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Speaker 5: he was going to get his money's worse. Like and

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Speaker 5: it was cute at first, like two three bowls, but

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Speaker 4: Guy, like when this bowl is half empty, you bring another, okay, okay.

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Speaker 5: He's very enthusiastic about this never ending possible.

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Speaker 3: And then it's getting into like bowl six and seven.

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Speaker 5: He went to the bathroom and came back and tried

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, this was a competitive eating situation, Like he

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Speaker 1: he wanted to impress you with how much he could consume.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I.

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Speaker 5: Guess it was Yeah, like the showboat he was really showboating,

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Speaker 5: I guess, but I mean he's trying to like order

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Speaker 5: so much at once, and the and the servers explaining,

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Speaker 5: you know, it's just one at a time. So I'm

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Speaker 5: getting a little embarrassed. And then fast forward two hours,

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Speaker 5: like I'm I've been done eating, like I can have

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Speaker 5: like two bowls at most, maybe.

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Speaker 4: He's on bowl number twelve or thirteen.

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Speaker 1: You had to sit there for like another forty five

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Speaker 1: I don't know, just I don't know whatever, to shovel

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Speaker 5: Yeah, literally shoveling, like the whole wedge of parmesan had

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Speaker 5: he finally called it and like, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: I was a little discussed. Did it looked like he

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Speaker 5: It doesn't even look like he was enjoying it early.

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Speaker 1: So you were not impressed, that's what you're saying. It

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Speaker 1: didn't turn anyone.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, but then what maybe the exact opposite, Oh, I mean,

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Speaker 4: and then he tried to negotiate like a to go

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Speaker 4: order with the waiter very well person and then wanted

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Speaker 4: them to leave all the empty bowls so I could

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Speaker 4: take a picture of him. So I don't know if

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Speaker 4: it's like he's plus competitive, it's just all lacking.

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Speaker 1: And I forgot you mentioned that Marcus here. Mark, you

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Speaker 1: didn't mention any of the competitive eating. You didn't mention

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Speaker 1: any any of this, like seventeen bowls Aposta thing, and

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Speaker 1: you made us sit there and watch you do this.

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Speaker 2: You didn't mention any of that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, look, I can't believe that this is an issue. Okay,

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Speaker 3: it's never ending fasta. This is what you're supposed to do.

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Speaker 3: You're supposed to eat as much as you pay. That's

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Speaker 3: what they want you to do. Mary, Why would I

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Speaker 2: I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's true. I don't think that they're

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Speaker 1: anticipating that the average person on a date is going

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Speaker 1: to eat seventeen bowls of pasta. Like, I think it's

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Speaker 1: sort of I don't think you're supposed to take it

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Speaker 2: Do you have food out right right that it's never ending? Actually?

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Speaker 1: Like I think it's more of like, oh wow, I

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Speaker 1: splurge on an extra bowl or something, but you know,

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Speaker 1: it's the seventeen bowls, the picture, it's it's making her.

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Speaker 1: Once you do this, it's then try to negotiate the

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Speaker 1: that's a go. I mean there's kind of a lot

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Speaker 2: What if she wanted to hook up? Like how would

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Speaker 1: I mean I realized you carbo loaded, but like you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't think I could function after that?

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Speaker 3: No, how can you not be not be impressed with me?

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Speaker 2: He was killing me?

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Speaker 4: It's just like just because you can. You never stopped

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Speaker 4: to ask why or if you should. And like seventeen

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Speaker 4: not really a great first impression.

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Speaker 1: I think you're not allowed of that out of garden anymore.

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Speaker 1: I think they banned you. I think you ate enough

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Speaker 1: never ending positive for the entire promotion.

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Speaker 3: Off like the menu probably, I mean they seem like

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Speaker 3: they were they were enjoying me eating all that pasta.

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Speaker 3: I thought you were having a good time. I felt

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Speaker 3: good in the moment, and.

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Speaker 1: You know, with you or laughing at a certain point,

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Speaker 1: I mean you were making a spectacle. It sounds like

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Speaker 1: and then ordering people around, you know, as I don't know,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think that's date activity. It's certainly not

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Speaker 1: first date activity.

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Speaker 4: No, maybe like something you revealed to me later on

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Speaker 4: and it's like, oh wow, this is like a secret

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Speaker 4: in talent or it's just you're really enthusiastic about pasta

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Speaker 4: or or or deals.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were impressed by putting there.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: I was like, were you trying to get a good

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Speaker 1: deal or were you trying to impress her? And he

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Speaker 1: keeps bringing up that he was trying to impress her

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Speaker 1: and it didn't actually did not impress her at all.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask this question though, Casey on his behalf,

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Speaker 1: maybe we don't go to any kind of like never

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Speaker 1: ending situation, but we'll pay for another date if you'd

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Speaker 1: like to try and go out with him again, and.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he'll agree it not competitive eat on the date.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's a hard sell. It's a hard sell

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Speaker 4: because like, uh, I can't really get the image of

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Speaker 4: all the pasta sauces kind.

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Speaker 2: Of yeah, how did you feel after that?

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a lot of that's a lot of

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Speaker 1: probably I don't know, I don't know what sauce you got,

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Speaker 1: the different sauce choices, but that it's.

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Speaker 4: Just a lot. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he needed some

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Speaker 4: gas ex and anti acids after.

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Speaker 2: Like, how did you feel for the next couple of days.

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Speaker 3: Look at I'm a grown guy. I like to eat,

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Speaker 3: and I felt fine. Everything went down fine, everything came

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Speaker 3: out fine, it was great.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good news. All right.

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Speaker 1: Look, so she's not interested, it doesn't seem so, Mark. Look,

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Speaker 1: I wish you the best, Casey, thank you for your time.

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Speaker 1: Good luck to you as well out there. And maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe we toned down the sort of boasting how much

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Speaker 1: we can eat on the first date.

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Speaker 2: That's my advice to you. Mark.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think a lot of people will be impressed,

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Speaker 3: but at this day, all right,