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<v Speaker 1>all that good stuff, and uh, without further ado, here

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<v Speaker 1>is an episode we recorded back in January in Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 1>about the sixth sins Enjoy on the Beck dol Cast.

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<v Speaker 1>The questions asked if movies have women and them? Are

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<v Speaker 1>all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands? Do they have individualism?

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<v Speaker 1>The patriarchy? Zef invest start changing it with the Beck

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<v Speaker 1>del Cast. Everybody welcome here, we are Philadelphia. We're back.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's who's been here to see us before? Oh? I

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<v Speaker 1>love I love when people are studios and they're like

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<v Speaker 1>me hand up there, my hand. We're so sacked to

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<v Speaker 1>be back. We love good goods so much. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for coming. Uh well we're the good God. We're

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<v Speaker 1>the bectel Cast. My name is Caitlin Dronte, I'm Jamie

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<v Speaker 1>Loftus and this is our feminist movie podcast. Has anyone Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do a quick, quick quiz at the top. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is the free applause part. Who here has

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<v Speaker 1>listened to the Bechtel Cast? Wow, validation, validation, we love it? Okay, um?

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<v Speaker 1>And then practical who has not listened to the Bechtel Cast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be shy right in this we see front Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there's work to be done. So today's movie is the

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<v Speaker 1>sixth sense? Who has seen the movie? Kah and has

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<v Speaker 1>anyone not? There's one person? Oh my gosh, I it's

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<v Speaker 1>so it's such a well we'll talk about it. But

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<v Speaker 1>like I never got to see this movie without knowing

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<v Speaker 1>the twist that happened. So I never got to see

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<v Speaker 1>a good movie. It's like it's not fair. I felt cheated.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, we'll talk about I'm kidding. It's the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>movie ever made. But like you've seen it? What? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>So we're doing the sixth sense today. We're doing it

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<v Speaker 1>because Galaxy Brain, it happens here, it does Philadelphia? Ever

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<v Speaker 1>heard of it? Um? We should say what the Bexel

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<v Speaker 1>cast is? Yes, let's do that. So we are a

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<v Speaker 1>feminist movie podcast. We analyze the portrayal of women in film,

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<v Speaker 1>one movie at a time. There's no movie, so there's

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<v Speaker 1>no if you left. We use the Bechdel test as

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<v Speaker 1>a jumping off point to initiate a larger conversation, and that,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, is a media metric created by cartoonist Alison

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<v Speaker 1>Bechdel that requires that two female identifying characters with names

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<v Speaker 1>have to speak to each other about something other than

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<v Speaker 1>a man. Does it happen in movies? Every once in

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<v Speaker 1>a while? It does? Sometimes there I not to I mean, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say anytime someone says that they've listened to

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<v Speaker 1>our podcast but is lying, they're like, oh, your show,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it about you spend an hour trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out if it passes the Bechdel test. No, what imagine

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<v Speaker 1>if we were just pouring over the screw every single

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<v Speaker 1>line of dialogue. How do you feel? Nope, doesn't look

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<v Speaker 1>like it like, but can we demonstrate the Bechdel test

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<v Speaker 1>for anyone who's not familiar. Yes, Hey, Jamie Caitlin, I

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<v Speaker 1>see Dead Women. Wow, that's so brave and progressive of you.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's like, you know, it doesn't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>good writing. It just has to be writing. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's what we're doing here, and so um. After

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people have been begging us, Jamie Caitlin, do

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<v Speaker 1>a feminist analysis of the sixth Cents. It's our top request.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone wants to know. But like, I mean, really the

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<v Speaker 1>Benett I mean, I'm just thrilled that we get to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Haley Joel Osmond. Um my my lifelong crush.

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<v Speaker 1>So this episode will not pass at all because we'll

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<v Speaker 1>just be talking about when you talk about Haley Josmond.

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<v Speaker 1>It does pass the Ptel test we checked. Same applies

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<v Speaker 1>to Alfred Molina. Of course, if I have a crush

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<v Speaker 1>on them, it passes the Piketel test. Um is that's

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<v Speaker 1>cannon um, Caitlin, What is your history with the cinematic

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<v Speaker 1>masterpiece The sixth Sense. I saw the movie in theaters

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<v Speaker 1>in nine in do Boys, Pennsylvania, and anyone familiar. I

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<v Speaker 1>was twelve or thirteen. Didn't really know anything about it

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<v Speaker 1>except that it was like, you know, the hot movie

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<v Speaker 1>of the moment. It was very spooky, and because I

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<v Speaker 1>was the age that I was, I thought it was great. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>this movie is for twelve year olds, Like this is

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<v Speaker 1>like this movie is like the most hardcore ship a

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<v Speaker 1>twelve year old has ever seen. Like I think that

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<v Speaker 1>like that kind of applies to like might Shine's entire filmography.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you're twelve, you're like, this ship is unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>But then when you are, you know, thirteen, you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>what what is happening? And I don't think I had

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<v Speaker 1>seen it again since? But because it's such like it's

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<v Speaker 1>such a huge part, it's infiltrated pop culture that everyone

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<v Speaker 1>knows the twist ending everyone knows the famous line about

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<v Speaker 1>seeing dead people not women, not feminist. No, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a gender neutral term and it's and it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all encompassing. I think that Haley Joel Osmond is in icon.

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<v Speaker 1>He probably insisted on that line what if I'm ni

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<v Speaker 1>shan One was like, okay, you're gonna say I see

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<v Speaker 1>dead hetero men, and Haley Joel Osmond's like, now I

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<v Speaker 1>have an idea. I know I have eight years old,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's be inclusive, you know, I hope, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be cutting them all kinds of slack. What is

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<v Speaker 1>your history with the movie? Not much? I I was

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<v Speaker 1>too I wasn't allowed to see this movie when it

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<v Speaker 1>came out, um, because I think it was like six

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<v Speaker 1>or seven when it came out, and so I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get to see it, but I knew the twist years before.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I finally saw it maybe in middle school,

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<v Speaker 1>but I already knew the twist because some jackass at

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<v Speaker 1>school had sucked it up for me. So I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>I like to the twist. But by that point, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I had seen the sixth sense after I'd seen

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<v Speaker 1>Hayley Joel Osmond in Secondhand Lions, and I'm right, we

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<v Speaker 1>have some secondhand Lions. The Secondhand Lions High has come

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<v Speaker 1>to Philadelphia. It's like Lions, Uh, not that bad. Pretty good,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty good. I think that that, you know, pretty good,

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<v Speaker 1>that's solid pretty good. But that that was like where

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<v Speaker 1>my crush really like solidified. I'm like, well, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to go back, We've got to see everything. So that

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<v Speaker 1>was so I went to see it for horny child purposes.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and I was like, okay, you know, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>my entire history. And then I watched it again. I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot Tony Collette is in this movie. I saw this

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<v Speaker 1>movie before I knew who Tony Colette was, so I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know she was in it at all. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that Tony Colette, like I mean, based on the

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<v Speaker 1>interviews I've read with her, it seems like maybe she

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<v Speaker 1>would prefer We Forgot You was in this movie. She's like, yeah, anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>knives out like she just blaze through it. Although I

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<v Speaker 1>think that Tony Colett's character in this movie is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like the lightest version of her character in Hereditary

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of times in movies, Tony Colette is

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<v Speaker 1>just like, what's going on with my son? Like that

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<v Speaker 1>is the part she's given a lot like multiple She's

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<v Speaker 1>just like she's on screen and we're like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>went over. Her motivation is, She's like, my son's doing

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<v Speaker 1>fucked up things and and then that's them. I'm like, come,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta you know she should have an oscar. Not

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<v Speaker 1>for this though. She was nominated though, right for this movie?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I wrong? Oh my god? She was for what Wait?

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<v Speaker 1>I love Tony Colette, but you're just like she's dressed

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<v Speaker 1>like Velma from Scooby Too. At the end of the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>She was nominated for the Best Supporting Actress. That is

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<v Speaker 1>so funny. It's like, I mean she didn't win. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean she didn't. I mean I don't think so she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't win. Did you notice that when you were rewatching it,

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<v Speaker 1>like the end of the movie where Hayley Joel Osmond

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<v Speaker 1>and um Tony Collette's relationship is like resolved. At the end,

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<v Speaker 1>She's dressed exactly like Velma from Scooby Doo. She's wearing

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<v Speaker 1>the turtleneck dark, the hairstyle is exactly the same, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's crying. But I'm like, I can't engage. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>distracted by the fact that she's cosplaying during this. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>when you think of it, the sixth sense is like

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<v Speaker 1>a very gritty Scooby Doo narrative unpacked and who unpacked that?

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<v Speaker 1>Who is the bad guy in this movie? Death? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it like Final Destination? In that way we should come

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<v Speaker 1>and Final Destination movie? Um, they'll all pass and kid um.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, yeah, I don't know. I guess that. The

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the closest we get to a villain in

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<v Speaker 1>this movie is Munchausen's by proxy mom, who I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>about and I'm like, what is that doing here? And

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<v Speaker 1>then there's little Misha Barton. We'll get to that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Well should I do the recamp? Yeah? I guess we

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<v Speaker 1>started on accidents, So here we go. Um. Dr Malcolm

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<v Speaker 1>crow Is Bruce Willis and a million times a movie,

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<v Speaker 1>or like, it's not dr Ian Malcolm dr Malcolm Crow.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not Drastic Park as much as we want

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<v Speaker 1>it to be. Um and his wife and a Crow

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<v Speaker 1>and a crow. Yeah. I like in the beginning scene

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<v Speaker 1>her whole thing, she's like, I'm your wife. She literally

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<v Speaker 1>says that. She's like, I'm your wife and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>pay attention to me, And he's like, anyways, Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>the whole first scene, they're staring at a plaque that's

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<v Speaker 1>honoring his accomplishment at a job we soon learn he's

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<v Speaker 1>not that good at good at and she says like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your wife and your mean and he's like, ha ha,

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<v Speaker 1>But that's they're celebrating because he's received an award from

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<v Speaker 1>the City of Philadelphia. I hope that, you know, Philly

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't just give out awards for this kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And then a former patient of his, Vincent Gray, who

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<v Speaker 1>was played by Donnie Wahlberg. But I okay, So, for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason, when I was rewatching this movie with my boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>kill me. I'm not a feminist, uh As I was

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<v Speaker 1>watching it with him, and for some reason, I was

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<v Speaker 1>so one million percent sure that the guy who shoots

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Willis was Christian Bale to the boy where when

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<v Speaker 1>he came on screen and it was visibly not Christian Bale,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, he's a chameleon, Like he's so good

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<v Speaker 1>that he has a different head. But it's not. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Donnie Wahlberg. He lost forty pounds to do this one scene,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like kind of embarrassing for him. But imagine

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<v Speaker 1>losing forty pounds and then being on set maximum two days.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like what was he trying to prove? Whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it was, it didn't work. He owns a cheeseburger, you know, joy.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever he does. Fine. So this former patient, Vincent gray

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<v Speaker 1>Um feels Dr. Malcolm Crowe has completely failed him, and

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<v Speaker 1>so he shoots Malcolm in the abdomen and then he

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<v Speaker 1>shoots himself in the head. We cut to the following fall.

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<v Speaker 1>Malcolm is stalking a child the way, Yeah we see that. Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>he's stalking. He's stalking a child named Cole's Steer. Also Cole.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay for everyone in the crowd who's like, wait, Cole Seer.

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<v Speaker 1>This movie is very subtle. You have to be careful

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<v Speaker 1>with these sort of things, but it's not spelled as

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<v Speaker 1>E E are no you. It's subtle different there. It

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<v Speaker 1>is really fun to read. Like I have some quotes

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<v Speaker 1>for later, but whenever. M n Chanel like when this

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<v Speaker 1>movie was coming out, he was interviewing for this movie

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<v Speaker 1>as if the very obvious things in the movie were

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<v Speaker 1>so subtle. He's like, well, Cole Seer, now not everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get this, but he's sears dead people. So we

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<v Speaker 1>find out that Cole is Malcolm's patient, and he's a

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<v Speaker 1>sweet boy. He's he's an angel, he's a talent, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob Tremblay wishes you know. But there there's something different

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<v Speaker 1>about Cole. He's not like the other boys, not like

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<v Speaker 1>the other Seers. And he speaks Latin and he opens

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<v Speaker 1>all the drawers in the kitchen or is that him

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<v Speaker 1>or is it we don't know. We meet his mom,

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<v Speaker 1>lyndsay here, that's totally and she's like, don't look at me.

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<v Speaker 1>So Cole and Malcolm have an appointment at Cole's house

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<v Speaker 1>and we learn more about him, like he made a

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<v Speaker 1>drawing that depicted this violent murder and he has a secret. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So meanwhile, um, Malcolm's home life is rough. He and

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<v Speaker 1>his wife keeps ignoring him, and we're like, why does

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<v Speaker 1>anyone into the crowd not know? Okay, never mind, but

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<v Speaker 1>like it's so like there is this thing with thrillers.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just talking about this backstage. There is this thing

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<v Speaker 1>with like thrillers that have a twist that you can

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<v Speaker 1>really only tell if they're a good movie when you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it twice. Like if anyone is seen Parasite, I

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<v Speaker 1>will not spoil anything. There's a twist in the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you see it the second time, you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an amazing movie because it gets even better

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<v Speaker 1>once you know the twist, whereas the sixth sense is

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<v Speaker 1>a little different. Once you know the twys, You're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the worst thing I've ever seen in my

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<v Speaker 1>entire I can't wait. I have so many questions that

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<v Speaker 1>are going to poke some holes in this plot. We're

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<v Speaker 1>really going to show him. This movie was nominated for

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<v Speaker 1>Best Picture that year, I know, but like not a

0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:26.120
<v Speaker 1>good year for anyone. That's okay. So wife is ignoring

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<v Speaker 1>and his wife. Malcolm and Cole meet again and they're

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<v Speaker 1>making some progress, but there's something that's really troubling Coal

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<v Speaker 1>and we still don't know what it is. He has

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<v Speaker 1>an outburst at school. Then there's this birthday party incident

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<v Speaker 1>where some mean boys lock coal and a little cupboard,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he has some sort of seizure type thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Malcolm is with him in the hospital and Cole

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<v Speaker 1>says he's ready to tell Malcolm his secret, and the

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<v Speaker 1>trailer moment we get the line line, I see dead women.

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<v Speaker 1>Haley Joel Osman is a really good actor. He's you

0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.440
<v Speaker 1>know me. I don't like a lot of child actors,

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<v Speaker 1>but Haley Joel really knocks out of the park. He's perfect.

0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:19.320
<v Speaker 1>He's perfect in all subsequent roles as well. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a whole section later. Okay, good, Okay. So he sees

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<v Speaker 1>dead people, and the ghosts that he sees there everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know that they're dead. He sees them all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and it's just they're very melodramatic, these ghosts

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<v Speaker 1>that he sees, they apparently have all died very violent

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<v Speaker 1>deaths as well. There's no I thought that was because

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<v Speaker 1>of its like, oh, it's just people with unfinished business

0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.399
<v Speaker 1>who they're unfinished businesses. I want to scream at Haley

0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Joel Osman, like their unfinished business has never really made

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<v Speaker 1>that clear. They just want to yell at him and

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<v Speaker 1>scare him. It's a lot of people died having not

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<v Speaker 1>yelled at him yet, and that is what a as

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<v Speaker 1>them to pass on. I guess who knows This movie

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<v Speaker 1>makes no sense. So Malcolm assumes that Cole seeing dead

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<v Speaker 1>people is the result of a mental illness. But we

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<v Speaker 1>start to learn that there actually are dead people walking

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<v Speaker 1>around who torment and abuse and yellow at coal. So

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<v Speaker 1>Malcolm he's under a lot of pressure. He says he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to transfer Cole to another doctor because he needs

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<v Speaker 1>to spend more time with his wife's wife and because

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<v Speaker 1>his wife is getting a little flirty with some guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and Bruce Willis is acting out about it because he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't know he's dead and so forth right, but Cold

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<v Speaker 1>begs Malcolm to help him and believe him because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hashtag believe Haley. I think everyone in the crowd would

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<v Speaker 1>agree we as a fan base believe Haley. Joelw Hosmins.

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<v Speaker 1>So Malcolm starts to reflect back on his treatment of

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<v Speaker 1>Vincent the person from the beginning of the movie Christian Bale,

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<v Speaker 1>not Christian Bale, Donnie Wahlberg, and he plays back some

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<v Speaker 1>old tapes, and Malcolm realizes that Vincent had this same

0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:22.959
<v Speaker 1>seeing dead people curse, which we learn apparently only afflicts

0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:29.439
<v Speaker 1>little boys whose parents are divorced. That's Malcolm is obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with divorce. Anytime you see him, like treating a patient,

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing about them is like first name, last name,

0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:40.800
<v Speaker 1>status of parents, marriage and that, like he's so, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he's like divorced. Okay, this kid is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be I'm like, you know, by that logic, half of

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<v Speaker 1>the planet would see people. Yeah, which we do. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you were a child of divorce, y, yes, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can see them. My parents are their marriage

0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.400
<v Speaker 1>is legally binding, so I can't see dead people. Have Yeah,

0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:08.359
<v Speaker 1>get them to sign the papers. Your life is going

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<v Speaker 1>to change. Bryce Willis is going to show up, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So Malcolm he realizes that the dead people that Cole

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<v Speaker 1>is seeing just want help from Coal. They want cold

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<v Speaker 1>to help them, and he thinks, he's like, if you

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<v Speaker 1>just listen to them, they'll go away. Um. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>still very unclear what some of the ghosts want to

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<v Speaker 1>help with, because we really only find out about one

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<v Speaker 1>of them, which is ghost She shows up. She's puking

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere and then feminists. Cole is like, Hi, how can

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<v Speaker 1>I help you? And this is his first customer service.

0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:56.600
<v Speaker 1>That is a lot of customer services. Someone puking at

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<v Speaker 1>you and you're being like, I don't mind this. Like

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<v Speaker 1>so we cut to Cole and Malcolm going to her

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<v Speaker 1>funeral and everyone thinks she died of a terminal illness,

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<v Speaker 1>but Cole helps uncover that Misha Barton was actually being

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<v Speaker 1>poisoned by her own mother. In a scene that hint

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<v Speaker 1>hint passes the Bechtel test when you know what your

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<v Speaker 1>mom is killing you and it passes. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>wild one. She was like, I want you to eat

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<v Speaker 1>your soup and don't complain about how it tastes. Passes.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of my new favorite passes. It's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>So that has been resolved, and then Cole tells his

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<v Speaker 1>mom about his secret. There's this exchange about she's dressed

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<v Speaker 1>like grandmother, right, and Malcolm is like, Okay, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>try to reconnect with my hint his wife. But but

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<v Speaker 1>it's because Cole says something that outside the context of

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<v Speaker 1>the movie is like, He's like, I know what you

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<v Speaker 1>should do talk to your his wife while she's asleep,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, if he's alive, this is the scariest

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's ever been set. Like, imagine waking up and

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<v Speaker 1>someone you love being like, I just wish I could connected.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like text me, I know, just yeah. But

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<v Speaker 1>but like Haley Joel Osmi gives this advice because he

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<v Speaker 1>knows Bruce Willis is dead, and Bruce Willis just receives

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<v Speaker 1>it like never thought. Okay, That's what I'm unclear about.

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<v Speaker 1>Does Haley Joel know that he definitely does? Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what when he says all the time, he's like, literally

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<v Speaker 1>right now, I'm saying dead people. Wait, am I the

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<v Speaker 1>am I alone here? I thought that he didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He definitely knows. He definitely, Like he gives hints all

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<v Speaker 1>the time that he knows. My interpretation maybe I'm giving

0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:10.159
<v Speaker 1>m night Shine like too much credit, but my interpretation

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<v Speaker 1>is he doesn't tell Bruce Willis that he's dead because

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<v Speaker 1>if he tells him he's dead, Bruce Willis will disappear,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll go away, and he doesn't want Bruce Willis to

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<v Speaker 1>go away because daddy issues. However interpreted, I interpreted knows

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<v Speaker 1>that he had no idea and he was like, Oh,

0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:31.239
<v Speaker 1>here's a child psychologist conveniently here to help me. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you underestimate Hayley John Osman. He well, no, because at

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<v Speaker 1>the end he says like, this is the last time

0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to see you, huh, because he knows that,

0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:42.639
<v Speaker 1>Like I think maybe he figures it out by the end.

0:23:43.240 --> 0:23:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I don't know. I literally I was like, he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't know, just like we don't know. Well. It's like,

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the logic of this movie relies on Bruce

0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Willis his character being very stupid, which he is, but

0:23:57.240 --> 0:23:59.560
<v Speaker 1>it's like there's multiple scenes where it's like if you

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<v Speaker 1>were Lee Joel Osmond and there was a strange man

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<v Speaker 1>in your hospital room that your mom had never met,

0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:10.439
<v Speaker 1>you would be like, mom, you know, but like but psycho,

0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:14.440
<v Speaker 1>but a psychologist, But like we don't. I mean, Bruce

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Willis just shows up and he's like, I'm You're like,

0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:18.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think Hayley Joel Osmond knows. Well.

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:21.560
<v Speaker 1>One of my questions that would poke holes in the

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<v Speaker 1>story logic is like how did this patient doctor relationship start.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I feel like Hayley Joel Osmond just accepts

0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 1>it because he can tell when people are dead, and

0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh, this ghost seems like less bleeding than usually. Like,

0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 1>let's see where this goes? Got it? Okay, well this

0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 1>has just crumbled my entire life. I could be wrong.

0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:50.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that. I want to take a poll.

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Can we who read it the way that Jamie reads it?

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:58.640
<v Speaker 1>That Hayley knew that grando applause? Okay, okay, A fair

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:02.520
<v Speaker 1>amount of people okay, rand up, applause who did not know?

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 1>And I thought that Cole does not know that he's

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<v Speaker 1>a ghost. Okay, okay. So we have some MENSA members

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 1>in the room, and we have some people's master's degrees

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 1>in the room. You know, being a MENSA member costs

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 1>sixty how much? Anyways, I don't know. I mean, I

0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:28.800
<v Speaker 1>guess it doesn't. I mean, at the end of the day,

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:31.720
<v Speaker 1>how hard was and they trembled thinking about that? I

0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:34.879
<v Speaker 1>mean not there's so many plot holes? Um okay? So

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 1>they So Bruce Wallis is like, I gotta go reconnect

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 1>with my wife, and then his attempt to do that

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:46.639
<v Speaker 1>makes him learn that he's been dead the whole time

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 1>because he was shot. He was killed whenever when when

0:25:55.840 --> 0:26:00.239
<v Speaker 1>shot him? Yes, and uh, that's the movie. And then

0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:12.679
<v Speaker 1>we're like, wow, it's perfect. No notes, Okay, I mean

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>should we start with like what a dogshit child? Psychologist?

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 1>Malcolm is like alive or dead. He's he's trash, he's

0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 1>so bad. Like he we've already sort of talked a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about his like obsession with divorce, where he's

0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:33.680
<v Speaker 1>like divorce equals mental illness equals ghosts. Like he's like

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<v Speaker 1>really taking it a long way. And then another thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I noticed just throughout the movie is he also

0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 1>has a like a strong aversion to medicating any sort

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 1>of mental illness. There's this really dramatic shot when he's

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:52.359
<v Speaker 1>first of all, watching his wife shower. She doesn't know

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 1>he's there, and then he so, okay, weird to start,

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 1>and then he it pans over and there's a very

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:03.680
<v Speaker 1>dramatic shot of her bottle of zoe loft, and he's

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 1>like like, first of all, everyone on the planets is

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 1>all like like what are you taught? Like? And he's

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>a psychologists, a psychologist. I'm like, oh my god, have

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 1>you never prescribed someone zoved? You? Probably should, you know.

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:24.160
<v Speaker 1>So he's he's like so deeply shocked that his wife

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:28.119
<v Speaker 1>would dare to go so far as to take Zolf

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:33.159
<v Speaker 1>and then when Cole tells him, you know, I see

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:35.720
<v Speaker 1>dead people that are around me all the time. And

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 1>then Malcolm like reassesses his like evaluation of Colon. He's like, oh,

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:44.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like worse than I thought. He might need hospitalization

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 1>and medication, and then proceeds to not do anything about it.

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Like he's just like, well, we'll just meet like several

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:56.119
<v Speaker 1>more times. I'll go to his play. So that's like

0:27:56.200 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>also dr patient, Like that breaches something right, Like imagine

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:06.200
<v Speaker 1>if if my like therapist came to like here, I

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>would be like get stage less talk. But like, but

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:15.159
<v Speaker 1>in theory, that's very unprofessional, Yes, I think so. But

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>one okay, but one thing I did like that Bruce

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Willis does was when he leaves the first place he

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:22.440
<v Speaker 1>goes to two plays. Also he's like school has so

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 1>many plays, which goes into the whole daddy issues thing

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:27.920
<v Speaker 1>that I have later. But um, at the end of

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:30.639
<v Speaker 1>the first play, he's like, well it was better than cats,

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 1>and You're like, you fucking idiot, like this was not

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 1>better than and then we're like, oh, well, I never

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 1>was there ever. A cat's so clever imagine, and there's

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 1>and there's also like, first of all, like Hailey Hilsmond

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 1>wishes he was Skimble Shanks in his wildest dreams and

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 1>he could have done I have no doubt, but you know,

0:28:56.920 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>which was a majority British cast. But all that to say, um,

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 1>you know what is that phrase about people? Is it?

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>People in glass houses? Shouldn't throw stones? M night shimels

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 1>coming after Cats? I'm like, it's all bad, honey, Like

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 1>it's all you can't be like in the middle of

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 1>the sixth sense the stupidest movie ever and be like

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Cat sucked, right, I'm like, sir, it all sucked. Like

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 1>calm down, I okay, I don't think this movie is terrible.

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:32.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't think it's terrible. I just think

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 1>it's dumb. It's very stupid. Dumb movies are fun all

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 1>the time. For example Cats, of course, can I ask

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 1>my questions? Ask your questions? Thank you so much. Okay,

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 1>So the movie does a little bit to show the

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Malcolm and his his his wife have grown apart and

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 1>they don't really talk anymore. But we're to believe that

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 1>he's been dead for several months. He's been doing for

0:29:57.400 --> 0:30:00.120
<v Speaker 1>a while, and then it's like we just I'm mean,

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 1>the story logic is so bizarre where it's like, I mean,

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:06.719
<v Speaker 1>and most people did suspend their disbelief, like I mean,

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>including me, and but it's like we're to believe that, um,

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Willis has not spoken to his wife, had a conversation,

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't have had sex or like kissed or anything

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 1>like that, which I mean, it happens, but like I mean,

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 1>if you're not even having a conversation, eventually you're gonna

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 1>be like, hey, you like okay, So like that would

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 1>be me like day two, I mean I would be like,

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:40.959
<v Speaker 1>excuse me, past the but what does he been eating? You? Right?

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>What does he She's been making dinner for one And

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>then like day fifty, he's like I'm hungry, Like what

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 1>you would you humor me, Jamie and you pretend to

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 1>be my wife and I'll be dead Bruce Willis, and

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 1>You're just gonna have to ignore everything I day because

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm dead right, Okay, I'm horny for someone. Also, it

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:08.840
<v Speaker 1>is kind of okay, wait, can I break um the

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 1>fact that it has only been a couple of months,

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, I should probably be fucking I'm like,

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 1>you know what, everyone grieves differently. I'm okay with a

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>very horny grief. Okay, So you're my bed his wife

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:26.959
<v Speaker 1>and his wife. Hey, honey, how was your day at work? Honey?

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Did you have Why are you ignoring me? Did you

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 1>have a bad day? Something wrong? Yeah? That's also we

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 1>were to believe that she hasn't talked about it at all,

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>like he's never walking on her on the phone, being

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 1>like so about my husband's assets, like right, or like

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 1>the funeral, the funeral? Where was he what? Or I

0:31:58.480 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>mean it was it? Are we supposed to believe that

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe he like came to said but then we okay,

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>someone saying yes. But then it's also like he's acting

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 1>like we've been growing apart for months and so I

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I don't know. It doesn't make sense. But

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 1>it was nominated for many oscars, not the first time. Okay.

0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 1>So does Malcolm not notice or care that he apparently

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>has only one patient and it's and one outfit, one outfit,

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 1>one outfit, yeah, his his sweater. Does he not notice

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 1>that no one seems to talk to him except a

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>small child? Um? No, he does. He thinks people are

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 1>talking around him all the time, but no one ever

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 1>direct Imagine if no one ever directly addressed you, you

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 1>would just feel like you were in junior high again,

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Like it would be he's just living in right. No

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 1>one seems to notice he exists, but he doesn't notice that.

0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Does he think he's getting paid? Right? This jig goes

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 1>on for a while and you're like, is Tony Colette

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be paying it? But it's like, I guess

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 1>they only see what they want to see, which is

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>like such a like throwaway line that excuses a lot

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>of plot holes. He's sending her like ghost bills. She's

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:23.239
<v Speaker 1>not replying to his ghost invoices. You know we've all

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>been there, right, next question, Um, So various times when

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>it seems like Cole would be under adult supervision because

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>he seems to be with Malcolm, then you realize he

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 1>was just like alone in that hospital room, alone, walking

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>the halls of his school at night, alone, walking around

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 1>in a park like he was just like always a

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 1>talking talking talk no one. If you saw a tiny

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 1>little Haley Joel Osman baby talking to no one, you

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>would be like, I'm abducting you, you know, like you

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 1>might do that here my son. Now I don't know someone,

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 1>but some would do something. If not that, they would

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 1>be like are you, where's your mom? What's going on?

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 1>And then also why after Vincent Gray kills himself, why

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 1>does Cole never see him? Because he would be a

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:20.359
<v Speaker 1>ghost unless he doesn't have any unfinished business. I guess

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 1>his business was to kill Bruce Willis. He was like,

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm out, I don't know, we don't we have no

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:28.360
<v Speaker 1>background for him. They're just like, well, child of divorce,

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 1>So clearly you're gonna want to kill Bruce Willis. Although

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I think Vincent Gray is maybe one of the more

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 1>realistic characters in the story because he showed, I mean,

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 1>the ends don't justify the I don't know if I'm

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:46.239
<v Speaker 1>using that phrase correctly, but you know, he does say, hey,

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Willis, you're a shitty psychologist. You said because I

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 1>was divorced, I would like my parents were divorced. I

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 1>was satan and now you will pay Like that part

0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have happened. But like up till then, he was

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 1>like really on a roll. He was a bad child psychologist. Also,

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 1>he's always violating hippo laws because he's like telling his

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 1>life about his patient. Nation that's not allowed. It's I know, well,

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 1>it's well because he has to talk about his job

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 1>to his wife, because we don't know anything about his

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>wife other than she's like, I feel neglected, and then

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 1>he dies we do find out. So if we're talking

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 1>about I mean, unfortunately, there's really not a ton of

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 1>discussion to be had about his wife because we know

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 1>so little about her other than she was married to him.

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 1>And then she's sad that she's not around anymore. She says,

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 1>home watching the wedding tape, you know, the whole bit

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 1>she's wearing out the VHS. There's one scene where we

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 1>see her at work at I think an antique shop

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 1>that sells jewelry. But the one thing we see her working,

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 1>she's like gaslighting a couple into buying a diamond ring

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:05.280
<v Speaker 1>they clearly can't afford. Um. And then the unnamed female character,

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 1>one of the only non white characters in the movie, Um,

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 1>she's talking to her future husband and and she and

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:14.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just like it's kind of the classic

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 1>trope of like women be desiring blood diamonds, and and

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 1>so his wife, you know, gaslights the couple into being like, no,

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 1>this is actually a good idea and so that scene

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:34.920
<v Speaker 1>is bad. Also, why is that scene really there? Does that? Uh?

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:40.320
<v Speaker 1>What happens after that is the guy who's like who's

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 1>interested in her and who Bruce Willis is jealous of.

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 1>She she like gives him a gift. But we didn't

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 1>need the scene prior to that at a thing, We

0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't really need everything. I mean, I'm like, I didn't

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 1>all the scenes. You're like, I guess I could take

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 1>or leave it, Like, but that was a weird one.

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 1>And and yeah there is is he named there's like,

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:04.319
<v Speaker 1>there's some guy who is interested in her and then

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 1>she's like, but but I can't, you know, because she's

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:11.840
<v Speaker 1>not um through her grief process, which which is I

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 1>think like a valid arc. But that's the most you

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:16.719
<v Speaker 1>get out of her, is like she is someone who

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 1>has lost her spouse recently and is like not sure

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 1>if she's ready to move on. That all makes sense, um,

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:27.880
<v Speaker 1>but that's like literally all we get, right. I mean, overall,

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:32.240
<v Speaker 1>the women who are in the story are really only

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:35.720
<v Speaker 1>there because of their relationships to the two main male characters,

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Mothers and Wives. That's just Mothers and Wives and the

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Tony Collette character is slightly more important. Yeah, I think

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 1>the most important female character, which is like I'm not

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 1>saying that much, but they cast Tony Collette, you know,

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:57.719
<v Speaker 1>so you're like that's significant, right, her character, I mean

0:37:57.760 --> 0:37:59.800
<v Speaker 1>I like her character. I think we are told that

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:03.759
<v Speaker 1>she she's a single parent because divorce equals ghosts, and

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:07.880
<v Speaker 1>she's a single parent. She has two jobs, but we

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know what either of them are, right, which is like,

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 1>all right, I'm not ti one was you know, we

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 1>got you know, but she's it's just supposed to be

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:20.160
<v Speaker 1>like she's working very hard, and then it's a Tony

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Collette role in the nineties or early two thousands, so

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:26.279
<v Speaker 1>she's like, what's going on with my son? Right? Yeah,

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 1>although I would say so what little we do know

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 1>about her, right, is that she she's divorced, she's working

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 1>two jobs. She is really good, a really good mother.

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 1>She's very caring and attentive. I think she's like appropriately

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:43.759
<v Speaker 1>concerned for Cole's safety while also being like frustrated by

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 1>his at times alarming behavior because he's being haunted by ghosts.

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 1>But then her also like she's frustrated by her own

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.839
<v Speaker 1>inability to help him, Like there's that scene where she's

0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 1>just like they're kind of arguing about this like Bumblebee pendant,

0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, I'm so I'm tired in my body,

0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:04.759
<v Speaker 1>in my mind, in my heart, and like you can

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 1>tell she's like trying very hard to be a good

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:11.440
<v Speaker 1>mother and she just has a son who sees dead people.

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 1>So how do you mean mothers in the audience that? Um? Yeah, No,

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean I I I like her character, and I

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:24.720
<v Speaker 1>also think that we don't in like pop culture in general,

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 1>you don't get a ton of mother son's stories that

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:33.239
<v Speaker 1>um play out eventually as positively as this one does.

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's and and this movie has this

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:39.280
<v Speaker 1>as well, but there's a lot of father son's stories

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 1>because men be making movies about their problems. Um. But

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that like mother's son relationships are kind of

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:50.759
<v Speaker 1>under represent and father daughter as well. But um yeah,

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 1>So so I like that you understand why Tony Colette

0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 1>feels frustrated. It doesn't seem irrational at all. And you

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 1>also understand why Cole is an of is to tell

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 1>her because he doesn't want to be labeled as, you know,

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:08.320
<v Speaker 1>an unstable child of divorce, which Bruce Willis is labeling

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 1>him ask um. So I like their relationship and I

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>also like because I sort of forgot, I forgot about

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 1>the scene, the scene where she stresses Velma at the end,

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 1>which does make me cry, um because I'm easily manipulated,

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 1>but um where their relationship resolves is and the way

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 1>that sort of Haley Joel Osmond proves to Tony Collette

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:35.360
<v Speaker 1>that she should believe Haley Joel Osmond is he, you know,

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 1>shares an anecdote about his grandmother, her mother who passed away,

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 1>and they're crying and she believes him, and you don't know.

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what is she going to do now? Like

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 1>we don't really know, but you're like, okay, They're okay.

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:50.799
<v Speaker 1>She believes him and they're going to figure it out,

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 1>which I think was like a lovely mother son relationship

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 1>arc indeed, especially because in that moment we realize that

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Haley Joel Osmond's character is a feminist icon because he's

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:08.279
<v Speaker 1>trying to help women pass the Bechdel test. He's like, hey, mom,

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Grandma says, Hi, she saw you at the dance recital

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:15.799
<v Speaker 1>and she wants you to know that you make her

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:19.200
<v Speaker 1>proud every day. And Tony class not catching on. She's like,

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:21.759
<v Speaker 1>uh huh. I'm like, no, you have to talk to her,

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Come on there. Haley Cosmond's okay, his entire character, like

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:30.840
<v Speaker 1>his name is cold, but it's like it's Haley to Osmond,

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:35.719
<v Speaker 1>um his whole character. I like his character. I think

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Cole is a little sweetie pie. He's a troubled boy.

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 1>But he's literally being haunted by every plot ghost. Every

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:47.959
<v Speaker 1>plot relevant ghost is haunting him. All the non plot

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:51.320
<v Speaker 1>relevant ghost who knows where they are. Um, But I

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 1>like the first ghost that he's able to break through

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 1>with is Misha Barton, So he's help helping women expose

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:05.400
<v Speaker 1>their mother's crimes feminists. Um, he's an ally. He's an ally.

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 1>He just is Um. But but what I really do

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:10.759
<v Speaker 1>like about the way, and it's like I don't know

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 1>how intentional this is, because I don't think that this

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 1>is like a movie that's like meant to show like

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 1>young people a role model through this haunted child. But

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:24.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe I don't, we don't know. But but in general,

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think it would be kind of like

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:30.479
<v Speaker 1>an easy, bad writing thing to have, you know, because

0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 1>like Haley draw Osmond's character is being bullied like other

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 1>boys who are very like, you know, emulating macho behaved

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Tommy to Tamas Seema. He's a cough syrup commercial so

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 1>he's the best actor in the world. He's like that

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:52.000
<v Speaker 1>character hilarious icon, uh, feminist icon Tommy tamas you know,

0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>um question mark. But you know we see all we

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:01.920
<v Speaker 1>see other other young boys like bullying Haley Joel Osmond,

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 1>and he's very like typically like macho ways and Haley

0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:10.319
<v Speaker 1>Jelosmond doesn't respond with like toxicity. He's just like, I've

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 1>got bigger fish to fry. I look Tommy Tennessineo, we'll

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:16.960
<v Speaker 1>deal with him later. We've got we've got ghosts that

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:22.279
<v Speaker 1>are screaming, like so scratching him and they're scratching him.

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Why are they scratching him? He's so nice. Also, on

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 1>the rewatch the special effects in this movie. I'm like,

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I looked up because I'm like, maybe this movie was

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 1>made for fourteen dollars, but it was not. It was

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 1>they had a forty million dollar budget in so like

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 1>even more now. But if you look at there's a

0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 1>scene where you see, um, I mean, you know, female

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:48.400
<v Speaker 1>ghosts representations pretty good in this movie. But one of

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:50.879
<v Speaker 1>the first ones is a mother who has um. We're

0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 1>to like she split her wrists. We don't find anything

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:56.719
<v Speaker 1>else out other than she wants to scream like her

0:43:56.840 --> 0:44:00.800
<v Speaker 1>unfinished business. We don't know. I think she it's implied

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:03.800
<v Speaker 1>that she has an abusive husband, right, but it's like,

0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:07.520
<v Speaker 1>what's Haley joel Osma going to do about that? Anyway?

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:09.759
<v Speaker 1>But but when when she turns and we see the

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 1>special effects, it's literally like I party, like like it's

0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 1>like the effects are not there. It's just like, yeah,

0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 1>it's Halloween makeup that they're wearing. And then Misha Barton

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:27.799
<v Speaker 1>has like a CVS brand like ghost makeup on her um.

0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Going back to the mother son relationship because I I

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:36.800
<v Speaker 1>also quite like the way it plays out, especially because

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:40.280
<v Speaker 1>so you know she's a single mother. We're not totally

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:45.040
<v Speaker 1>sure how recent the divorce was, or how recently his

0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 1>dad left, or how long he's been seeing ghosts, but

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:51.759
<v Speaker 1>we have to assume since the day alcause there's all

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:54.400
<v Speaker 1>those photos on the wall where like Tony Klauds like

0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:56.759
<v Speaker 1>what's this little shimmer in this photograph? And there was

0:44:56.840 --> 0:45:00.480
<v Speaker 1>some of h Well, then that challenges I thought it

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:03.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, your father and I got divorced and

0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 1>that second is like boop, like ghosts have logged in. Oh,

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:12.360
<v Speaker 1>so it's just like you're born with it. Maybe he

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 1>thought it was once your parents get divorced, you see ghosts.

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's that when you have a baby who sees ghosts,

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:22.880
<v Speaker 1>it's so much pressure on your marriage that you get divorced.

0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh is a self fulfilling prophecy. You're like, why is it?

0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Why are there so many orbs in this picture of

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:35.400
<v Speaker 1>our son? And then they break up? So really, when

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 1>you what you're saying is the divorce is Haley Joel

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Osmond's fault, and we love to hear that the divorce

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 1>was the child's fault. I don't wishing interesting you would say,

0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:53.279
<v Speaker 1>but the relationship between mother and son in a lot

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:56.239
<v Speaker 1>of movies you would see that dynamic play out where

0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 1>like the boy would be like, when's daddy coming home?

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:02.759
<v Speaker 1>Where's my dad? Like, either in an implicit or an

0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:06.200
<v Speaker 1>explicit idea that the mother isn't enough he needs a

0:46:06.280 --> 0:46:09.640
<v Speaker 1>male parental figure. I agree with that, but I would

0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:14.560
<v Speaker 1>also because Cole doesn't do that. But yeah, well, but

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 1>because it's like you know, it's Tony Collett, like it's

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:20.359
<v Speaker 1>made very clear that she is a good mother, she's

0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:23.799
<v Speaker 1>trying her best to understand. But but then you kind

0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:25.680
<v Speaker 1>of I feel like m Night Shamling kind of has

0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 1>it both ways because Bruce Willis comes in, he becomes

0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 1>this parental figure. He's showing up to plays, he's showing

0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:36.320
<v Speaker 1>up to the hospital, he's doing these quote unquote fatherly duties,

0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:38.880
<v Speaker 1>and it's I feel like the plot would have you

0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:41.040
<v Speaker 1>believe that Haley Joe Osmond wouldn't have been able to

0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:46.759
<v Speaker 1>resolve his issues without this ghost father figure appearing and

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:52.560
<v Speaker 1>then like probably kind of dramatically disappearing. But I don't know.

0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:54.319
<v Speaker 1>I was sort of because I was like, oh, that's

0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:57.480
<v Speaker 1>cool that, Like I do I love the mother son relationship.

0:46:57.520 --> 0:47:01.800
<v Speaker 1>But but I feel like there's also the slight implication

0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:04.200
<v Speaker 1>by the movie that Tony Colett couldn't have gotten the

0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:06.919
<v Speaker 1>job done on her own, like they ghost Daddy needed

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:10.359
<v Speaker 1>to come in for a few weeks. Wasn't a ghost,

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:12.719
<v Speaker 1>so she can't help with the ghosts, I know, which

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 1>is just like rude. It's like Tony could be a

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:19.960
<v Speaker 1>ghost if she wanted. He didn't tell her, but I

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, it was like it wasn't like

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I I and again I'm just like, I don't know

0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:27.040
<v Speaker 1>who who was thinking this hard about it. I think

0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:30.080
<v Speaker 1>we're we have like thought a few laps around the

0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:33.279
<v Speaker 1>first draft of the script, but um, I don't know.

0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel like there is the implication that it's still

0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 1>like that nuclear family dynamic that is able to accomplish

0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:42.239
<v Speaker 1>what the story wants to. I see what you're saying,

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 1>but I feel like Bruce willis who knows how long

0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:48.080
<v Speaker 1>he's been stalking Cold before they actually start talking to

0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:51.000
<v Speaker 1>each other. But I feel like it's implied that he's

0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:55.200
<v Speaker 1>only around for maybe a few weeks or a couple

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 1>of months or so before he then like disappears, because

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:01.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like he needs to help Cole needs to help

0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Mischelle Barton for some reason. And then everyone's fine, question

0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:08.879
<v Speaker 1>like we don't know they need to help each other

0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 1>like ather On me but there, but I don't know. Yeah,

0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:18.200
<v Speaker 1>the I said, ultimately, the doomsday clock is at a

0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:24.680
<v Speaker 1>hundred seconds. That's what I'm gonna start saying when I

0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 1>run out of idea. Ok Uh, there is like there's

0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:32.480
<v Speaker 1>a few times when you learn that like Cole wears

0:48:32.560 --> 0:48:35.279
<v Speaker 1>his dad's like glasses, or like the frames of his

0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:37.600
<v Speaker 1>glasses or like his watch. Maybe it's just like a

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 1>small attempt to be like I wish my daddy was

0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:43.120
<v Speaker 1>still here. But it's not overwhelming. But then yeah, because

0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:45.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, Bruce Willis does sort of step into be

0:48:45.719 --> 0:48:50.080
<v Speaker 1>his his dad, his father. Yeah, I don't know, like yeah,

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:52.439
<v Speaker 1>most of the stuff. I mean, I feel like there's

0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:54.319
<v Speaker 1>a version of this movie that would have like hit

0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 1>on that theme way harder, in a more egregious way. Um,

0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:02.799
<v Speaker 1>But as it is, I mean, I mean, it's it's fine. Yeah,

0:49:03.000 --> 0:49:12.800
<v Speaker 1>it's fine. We do see Tony Collect's character doing laundry

0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:16.160
<v Speaker 1>in two different scenes. Well, who else is gonna do it? Well,

0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:20.080
<v Speaker 1>that's true, two scenes is unnecessary. One scene max one

0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:22.120
<v Speaker 1>scene we're like, well this is you know, like she's

0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 1>obviously who else would be doing it in two scenes

0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:29.160
<v Speaker 1>where like what are her jobs? She has two jobs?

0:49:29.239 --> 0:49:31.919
<v Speaker 1>Why does she let her son roam around at night

0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:38.000
<v Speaker 1>with nobody? There's with ghosts? Where is the babysitter at

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:42.759
<v Speaker 1>where is she? Or we don't know? Sorry, it's funny

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:45.399
<v Speaker 1>to be inclusive with my babysitting. I'm trying to look

0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:48.080
<v Speaker 1>through my notes to see if I have anything else,

0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I wrote down a lot of female ghosts, a lot

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:55.680
<v Speaker 1>of female ghosts. Um. I also, I mean I don't

0:49:55.719 --> 0:49:58.799
<v Speaker 1>even really know. Again, I'm just like, what really does

0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:02.000
<v Speaker 1>this plot point serve? He's able to help Misha Barton

0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 1>ghost who's being killed by her mom, but we get

0:50:06.200 --> 0:50:09.960
<v Speaker 1>no insight as to like what's going on there, and

0:50:10.080 --> 0:50:13.000
<v Speaker 1>so that seemed just to me mostly read this very bizarre.

0:50:13.080 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Misha Barton gets him the VHS evidence tape that she's

0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:22.799
<v Speaker 1>conveniently recorded, and then Haley Joe Osmond goes to her

0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:26.400
<v Speaker 1>father and it's like, here's evidence, and he's like, let

0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:29.320
<v Speaker 1>me watch it. During the way during the field, he

0:50:29.440 --> 0:50:31.200
<v Speaker 1>pops it in during the wake from a kid he's

0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:36.440
<v Speaker 1>never met who was there alone, because again Bruce Willis

0:50:36.880 --> 0:50:40.840
<v Speaker 1>is dead, he's at his wake alone, and like in

0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:43.680
<v Speaker 1>any other world it would be like a SpongeBob car too,

0:50:43.880 --> 0:50:48.839
<v Speaker 1>but like but in this case, this eight year old

0:50:48.840 --> 0:50:55.000
<v Speaker 1>standing important evidence about his daughter, and we see the

0:50:55.360 --> 0:50:58.839
<v Speaker 1>mother doing the like the Munchausen's by proxy thing she's doing,

0:50:58.960 --> 0:51:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and again in a very over the top visual signifiers

0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:05.200
<v Speaker 1>of like the thing that is clearly poison has like

0:51:05.400 --> 0:51:09.040
<v Speaker 1>a little X symbol on it, Yeah, what was that bottle?

0:51:09.280 --> 0:51:11.520
<v Speaker 1>What was it there? What is it? I don't know.

0:51:11.960 --> 0:51:16.920
<v Speaker 1>She pours in it. She she's like bleaching soup. So

0:51:17.040 --> 0:51:20.040
<v Speaker 1>we see her do the soup bleach, and then she

0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:23.080
<v Speaker 1>goes to Misha Barton like stopped saying the soup tastes

0:51:23.160 --> 0:51:30.080
<v Speaker 1>like bleach. Yeah, and we have no insight. I mean,

0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:33.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like I didn't know about even the term munchausens

0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:37.080
<v Speaker 1>by proxy until like the whole Gypsy Rose case like

0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:40.719
<v Speaker 1>five years ago, and let's talk about it after the show.

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:44.400
<v Speaker 1>But I feel like munchausens by proxy and like the

0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:48.279
<v Speaker 1>idea of keeping someone sick intentionally was not a like

0:51:48.640 --> 0:51:51.600
<v Speaker 1>pop culture Like people didn't know about this then. So

0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:55.920
<v Speaker 1>the fact that it pops up and then her husband

0:51:56.440 --> 0:51:59.080
<v Speaker 1>like just confronts her and it's like why world, why

0:51:59.160 --> 0:52:02.320
<v Speaker 1>did you bleach the soup? And she just goes and

0:52:02.520 --> 0:52:08.480
<v Speaker 1>that's that's the last week. Does she get arrested? Like

0:52:08.880 --> 0:52:11.800
<v Speaker 1>do we get in the explanation? Like we get nothing?

0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:14.400
<v Speaker 1>And when I first saw this movie, I'm like, wow,

0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:17.800
<v Speaker 1>she seems like a real bit Like I'm like, but

0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:21.120
<v Speaker 1>that's clearly there's so much going on there. Then there's

0:52:21.160 --> 0:52:24.200
<v Speaker 1>so like it's such a complicated issue for m Night

0:52:24.280 --> 0:52:26.840
<v Speaker 1>ten to choose to be, Like, let me present this

0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:31.320
<v Speaker 1>very complex mental illness in one scene with characters you

0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:34.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think there's a lot that gets like

0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:37.680
<v Speaker 1>seeds that get planted in the first movie that call

0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:40.000
<v Speaker 1>for a sequel. I think there should be a sequel

0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:41.440
<v Speaker 1>to the Sixth Sense. I think it should be called

0:52:41.480 --> 0:52:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the seventh Sense, even though that doesn't make sense. But

0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:47.719
<v Speaker 1>like again, like what happened? I want to know what

0:52:47.880 --> 0:52:51.520
<v Speaker 1>happens with like now that like he has a friendly

0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:54.000
<v Speaker 1>relationship with ghosts. Now I guess at the end that

0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:57.000
<v Speaker 1>we're supposed to believe, So like what does that look like?

0:52:57.200 --> 0:52:59.279
<v Speaker 1>You have to be careful though, because they will make

0:52:59.360 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 1>that movie. We don't actually want it. If anyone is listening,

0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that's like, maybe we should know we don't want it,

0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:08.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, because what it was that they just did

0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:11.719
<v Speaker 1>that with um the Shining, They were like, what if

0:53:11.920 --> 0:53:14.640
<v Speaker 1>the people are wondering, You're like, no one is wondering

0:53:15.520 --> 0:53:17.879
<v Speaker 1>what happened to Dan, Like no one gives a funk

0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:23.080
<v Speaker 1>what happened to Danny? So I just sorry, Hey, let's

0:53:23.120 --> 0:53:26.520
<v Speaker 1>talk about Hayley Joel Osmond for a second. He's had

0:53:26.520 --> 0:53:29.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot of great roles. Kaitlin. Maybe you've seen him

0:53:29.800 --> 0:53:32.920
<v Speaker 1>most recently in that Zac efron Ted Bundy movie, and

0:53:32.960 --> 0:53:37.360
<v Speaker 1>you wee see that he's he's he's he's finding that.

0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:40.840
<v Speaker 1>His whole role in that is he goes up to

0:53:40.960 --> 0:53:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Ted Bundy's ex girlfriend and who's like, I wish you

0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:47.800
<v Speaker 1>could get over Ted Bundy. That's his whole role. He's crying,

0:53:47.960 --> 0:53:51.000
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I I just Ted Bundy is cock blocking

0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:56.400
<v Speaker 1>me at every turn. Like so, he's not given much,

0:53:56.440 --> 0:54:00.320
<v Speaker 1>but he does a good job. My favorite post sixth

0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:04.840
<v Speaker 1>sense Haley Joel Osmond role is the movie sex Ed.

0:54:05.000 --> 0:54:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Has anyone on the planet besides me seeing sex Ed? Okay?

0:54:09.960 --> 0:54:14.640
<v Speaker 1>So sex Head is a movie that is currently streaming

0:54:14.680 --> 0:54:20.680
<v Speaker 1>for free on something called to Be Anyway Heny where

0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:22.800
<v Speaker 1>am I to Be? I was like what the fuck

0:54:22.960 --> 0:54:24.920
<v Speaker 1>is to be? And I downloaded it to watch the

0:54:24.960 --> 0:54:29.480
<v Speaker 1>sex said. Sex Ed is a movie where Haley Joel

0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Osmond plays a sex ed teacher named Ed. That's really

0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:40.000
<v Speaker 1>all you need to know to want to watch it.

0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:43.120
<v Speaker 1>But he plays a sex said teacher named Ed. He's

0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:45.440
<v Speaker 1>trying to he's having a bit of a dry spell,

0:54:45.520 --> 0:54:48.520
<v Speaker 1>but he's talking about sex all day, so he's horny.

0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Rhada Play is his best friend slash Landlord. She shows

0:54:54.120 --> 0:54:57.520
<v Speaker 1>up every few scenes to give exposition and then she disappears.

0:54:58.440 --> 0:55:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Um anyways, at the end, Hayley Joel Osmond has sex.

0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Whoa spoilers sorry and then whatever you like. At the end,

0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:13.839
<v Speaker 1>he was dead the whole time. You gotta watch sex said,

0:55:13.920 --> 0:55:20.480
<v Speaker 1>it's onto b Um, here's something that's sort of relevant

0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:25.279
<v Speaker 1>to what we normally discuss. Um. So there's there's a

0:55:25.320 --> 0:55:27.960
<v Speaker 1>component in this movie, and it's recurring in a lot

0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:31.719
<v Speaker 1>of like horror thriller movies. But um, something's happening to

0:55:31.800 --> 0:55:35.000
<v Speaker 1>someone and no one believes them at first. Um, and

0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:38.640
<v Speaker 1>groups of people who are often not believed. I see

0:55:38.640 --> 0:55:42.279
<v Speaker 1>where this is going. Children, like we see in the

0:55:42.360 --> 0:55:47.719
<v Speaker 1>sixth sense, women ever heard of him? Um, seniors, you know,

0:55:48.080 --> 0:55:51.480
<v Speaker 1>basically any marginalized group. And there's like there's a line

0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:56.120
<v Speaker 1>of dialogue where Cole says, like, please believe you believe me? Right?

0:55:56.200 --> 0:55:58.200
<v Speaker 1>How will you help me if you don't believe me?

0:55:58.600 --> 0:56:02.960
<v Speaker 1>And that's just you know, poignant. I think that that's good. Yeah,

0:56:03.120 --> 0:56:05.719
<v Speaker 1>like it it does like make it clear that like

0:56:05.840 --> 0:56:08.399
<v Speaker 1>and and that's also like What is preventing Cole from

0:56:08.440 --> 0:56:10.840
<v Speaker 1>having any sort of resolution with his mother is that

0:56:11.280 --> 0:56:14.239
<v Speaker 1>he's so afraid that she won't believe him, and that

0:56:14.360 --> 0:56:16.840
<v Speaker 1>if he tells her the truth that she will disown

0:56:16.960 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 1>him or love him less or whatever. The internal logic

0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:23.200
<v Speaker 1>is that, yeah, am I Shevelin accidentally made a point, right.

0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:28.160
<v Speaker 1>There's even that scene where he says like, like, no

0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:30.359
<v Speaker 1>one knows my secret. I can't even tell my mom

0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:32.279
<v Speaker 1>because I don't want my mom to look at me

0:56:32.320 --> 0:56:34.160
<v Speaker 1>in the way everyone else does, like I'm a freak,

0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:39.400
<v Speaker 1>so like because it's it's very sleep Um let's talk

0:56:39.440 --> 0:56:42.400
<v Speaker 1>about um m I Chavelin for a second, because I

0:56:42.560 --> 0:56:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, for he gets a lot of ship from people.

0:56:45.920 --> 0:56:49.480
<v Speaker 1>He has made more good movies than you think. Okay,

0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:52.040
<v Speaker 1>but in all, seriously, is am I Chavelin? I think

0:56:52.440 --> 0:56:54.960
<v Speaker 1>when I was very young, he was one of the

0:56:55.080 --> 0:56:57.800
<v Speaker 1>first non white directors I was aware of that was

0:56:57.880 --> 0:57:00.800
<v Speaker 1>wildly successful period. I mean, I think like when I

0:57:00.880 --> 0:57:02.960
<v Speaker 1>was a kid, I knew of Spike Lee, but I

0:57:03.000 --> 0:57:05.279
<v Speaker 1>wasn't old enough to see his movies. And then they're

0:57:05.320 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 1>like and and then I could watch m Night Chamelin movies,

0:57:08.520 --> 0:57:11.080
<v Speaker 1>So he did like I mean he did make I mean,

0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:15.000
<v Speaker 1>this movie was wildly successful. He basically got a blank

0:57:15.120 --> 0:57:18.040
<v Speaker 1>check for the rest of his career, um for better

0:57:18.160 --> 0:57:21.760
<v Speaker 1>or wars um after making this movie. And so I

0:57:21.840 --> 0:57:24.040
<v Speaker 1>think that, like that is worth acknowledging. And that is

0:57:24.120 --> 0:57:26.760
<v Speaker 1>like a very impactful thing because you know, directors are

0:57:26.800 --> 0:57:32.160
<v Speaker 1>still overwhelmingly male, but also overwhelmingly white of any gender.

0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:34.680
<v Speaker 1>So the fact that you know, this is a director

0:57:34.840 --> 0:57:37.240
<v Speaker 1>who um he he grew up in Philly, but he's

0:57:37.360 --> 0:57:40.160
<v Speaker 1>the son of immigrants, and like that is a really

0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:43.920
<v Speaker 1>powerful cool thing. And so I just wish his movies

0:57:43.960 --> 0:57:47.560
<v Speaker 1>were better. So you know, there's a lot, but but

0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I like, yeah, I think he was truly one of

0:57:50.280 --> 0:57:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the first non white directors I knew of and was

0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:58.480
<v Speaker 1>very you know in in the zeitgeist if you will. Um.

0:57:58.840 --> 0:58:01.480
<v Speaker 1>But also he ru and Avatar, so I don't know,

0:58:02.880 --> 0:58:07.240
<v Speaker 1>um oh some people disagree, okay, but yeah, I oh.

0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I also wanted to mention m Night Shimelin's which was

0:58:12.680 --> 0:58:15.400
<v Speaker 1>a wild year. So this was like The sixth Cents

0:58:15.480 --> 0:58:18.400
<v Speaker 1>was his big breakout movie. He wrote and directed it,

0:58:18.920 --> 0:58:22.000
<v Speaker 1>but prior to that he was like a Hollywood writer.

0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:24.320
<v Speaker 1>He would do a lot of like third or fourth

0:58:24.440 --> 0:58:26.800
<v Speaker 1>drafts of movies that were basically done and then they're like,

0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:30.560
<v Speaker 1>we gotta give it the m night touch. So his

0:58:30.760 --> 0:58:34.800
<v Speaker 1>film credits in addition to the sixth cents are he

0:58:34.920 --> 0:58:39.880
<v Speaker 1>did punch up on She's All That, and he wrote

0:58:40.040 --> 0:58:43.840
<v Speaker 1>and is credited as the soul writer of Stewart Little.

0:58:49.320 --> 0:58:54.280
<v Speaker 1>What a wild year for him, Like I he hasn't

0:58:54.320 --> 0:58:55.920
<v Speaker 1>had a year like that. I mean, he doesn't have

0:58:56.120 --> 0:58:58.800
<v Speaker 1>to punch up Stewart Little anymore. But that was a

0:58:58.920 --> 0:59:02.480
<v Speaker 1>fun movie. I never saw it, but yeah, like that

0:59:02.680 --> 0:59:04.400
<v Speaker 1>was that was the year where he was like crossing

0:59:04.480 --> 0:59:07.000
<v Speaker 1>over between being like a punch up writer and then

0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:12.439
<v Speaker 1>like this twisty oh tour. But you know, like Stewart Little,

0:59:12.720 --> 0:59:17.480
<v Speaker 1>it slaps, It's good, It's lass Gina Davis, isn't it goodness?

0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Pays his mother? I do like the my Shamalans. Basically,

0:59:24.440 --> 0:59:27.920
<v Speaker 1>his whole ethos is summarized in one line of dialogue

0:59:27.920 --> 0:59:31.440
<v Speaker 1>in this movie where Bruce Willis is like telling Cole

0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:35.080
<v Speaker 1>a bedtime story about a prince who was driving a lot,

0:59:35.520 --> 0:59:39.520
<v Speaker 1>and then Haley Joel Osmond is like, you've never told

0:59:39.600 --> 0:59:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a story before, have you? You have to add some

0:59:41.880 --> 0:59:48.160
<v Speaker 1>twists and also I'm nic shimally does the he sometimes

0:59:48.200 --> 0:59:51.440
<v Speaker 1>like m night Shanalin. I love him, and then sometimes

0:59:51.480 --> 0:59:55.400
<v Speaker 1>you're like your confidence is really for like it's it's difficult, um,

0:59:55.400 --> 0:59:58.160
<v Speaker 1>because what he does and a lot of directors do this,

0:59:58.280 --> 1:00:02.760
<v Speaker 1>but he specifically said like I'm basically this generation's Alfred Hitchcock.

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<v Speaker 1>And Alfred Hitchcock would play a small role in all

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<v Speaker 1>of his movies. So movie one was like, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be in this because otherwise I will people know I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Alfred Hitchcock now. Um, So he plays a small role

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<v Speaker 1>in this movie, gives himself a cameo and all of them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just I think that that's what Alfred Hitchcock did. He

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<v Speaker 1>would be in a few seconds of every movie. And

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<v Speaker 1>I particularly love like even in some of his worst movies,

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<v Speaker 1>the m I Childman cameos are always so fun. He's

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<v Speaker 1>always like a park ranger being being like, no, go

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<v Speaker 1>into those woods, see what happens. Like he's always like

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<v Speaker 1>introducing them into danger. It's fun. He should act more.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't seem like a bad actor. Um. There is

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<v Speaker 1>a Chucky Cheese reference in this movie. Visibility is important,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also Tony Collette needs to explain. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>was that supposed to be some sort of class thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they're like Tony Colette and Haley Joe Osmond are

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<v Speaker 1>at this like fancy, nice birthday party and the mother

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<v Speaker 1>at the fancy birthday party doesn't know what chucky cheese

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<v Speaker 1>is and to like it's all embarrassed, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>well it's it's the greatest place on her all right,

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<v Speaker 1>because she goes chucky like chucky just what I say

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<v Speaker 1>every time? Oh man, it's the best. It is the

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<v Speaker 1>best place on earth. You know. I've been many times

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<v Speaker 1>with you, I know for my birthday is of course. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So they mentioned chucky cheese and cats and they can't

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<v Speaker 1>take that away from So do you anything else? I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's about it. We're running a bit out of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we have any times for questions or comments? Time

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<v Speaker 1>for a few questions, comments come up to the mic,

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<v Speaker 1>so we can up to the mic. There's one person,

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<v Speaker 1>one brave soul. Oh come on, I love her sweaters.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name? My name's d what's your question? My

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<v Speaker 1>sex head, that's what they call me. Your reputation proceeds.

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<v Speaker 1>My question is who do you think Alfred Molina would

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<v Speaker 1>play in this for asking, um, who would Alfred? I

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<v Speaker 1>think he could be Mischa Barton Ghost and all my fantasies. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>Alfred Billina takes a role from a woman. Um, he

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<v Speaker 1>could be Barton Goes. He could be he could? I

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<v Speaker 1>think the one role he could. I think he would

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<v Speaker 1>have genuinely been a good Bruce Willis. Um he could.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's a chameleon. He Oh, speaking of chameleon,

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<v Speaker 1>he could have been the killer at the beginning, because

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<v Speaker 1>then you would get to see him without his shirt on.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's the answer. I'll do it. He's the killer

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning, and then we get to see him

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<v Speaker 1>in his little underwear. Yeah, and oh my god, what

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<v Speaker 1>if that was the only question? Uh, my name's Ivan,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe that in Tommy's whatever his last name?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yes, And I think in his first scene he

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<v Speaker 1>explains to uh queer icon Haley Joel Osman what improv

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<v Speaker 1>is like he's explaining improv. Um. My question is as

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<v Speaker 1>a as a non binary comedy fan, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel about the sixth sense actually being about Haley Joel Osment,

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<v Speaker 1>non binary icon trying to make it in comedy, but

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<v Speaker 1>having to deal with Tommy does annoying know it all?

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<v Speaker 1>Improv says that white man. Oh my god, I was

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<v Speaker 1>just wondering your take on that thing. I thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Wait a second, I need to process

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<v Speaker 1>for a second. Okay, it's a Joker. It's the prequel

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<v Speaker 1>to Joker. It's literally you fast forward. Tony Collette is

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<v Speaker 1>Joker's mom. No, I'm kidding, but no, but wow, what

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<v Speaker 1>if this is all about Hayley chill Osmond's journey? Should

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<v Speaker 1>the upright Citizen's breakid? He's like I saw a ghost

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<v Speaker 1>and then I learned the power of yes, son, and

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<v Speaker 1>now my life is he really did? I mean literally,

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<v Speaker 1>all he does is yes and the ghost and he listens.

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<v Speaker 1>That's such a big part of listens. He listens to

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<v Speaker 1>the ghosts, you know, and he doesn't respond irrationally because

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a bad scene. Wow, Wow, everyone should

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<v Speaker 1>take class is a good good I guess that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we're saying there. That's why I first I had that

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<v Speaker 1>written down of like the worst character in the story

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<v Speaker 1>happens to mention improv can't be a mistake, can't be

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<v Speaker 1>a mistake, something to consider any other I think we

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<v Speaker 1>have time for one more question comment if if such

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<v Speaker 1>a thing exists. Yes, I have a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>two parter. I'm sorry, I'm afraid this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>contrary to the spirit of the of the show, but

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to comment on your your outfit for a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>What if I was like stormed out. It's I mean, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we have we have like seventies themed children's bedsheet,

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<v Speaker 1>homemade mini skirt cowboy themed. One of them is topless. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you'll find that all of it. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the best view. It's incredible. You have a

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<v Speaker 1>single pocket in the middle of your chest, like I

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<v Speaker 1>found a piece of popcorn in it. It's like pockets. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's amazing. I'm sorry, thank you, thank you. Related to movies,

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<v Speaker 1>for for a long time, there was there was a

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<v Speaker 1>great controversy on one of the popular Beckdel websites. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry if you've already covered this, but the Lego movie,

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not it passed the beck Deel hast hinged

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<v Speaker 1>on whether or not you considered Princess Unikitty a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was hoping that you could weigh in on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlin I, of course have seen both Lego movies. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I do consider Princess Unikitty a woman? Do they refer

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<v Speaker 1>to her in the movies with she her? I think so,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they do, right, I've seen the movies, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think so. I don't know. When I

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<v Speaker 1>watched the Lego movie, I'm just like, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>crush on Phil Lord. Yes, take away from that, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we just have to cover the Lego movie. Now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's really adequately answer your question. We should? We should?

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<v Speaker 1>I think like a soft yes, a soft yes. And

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of the Bechdel test, does this movie the sixth

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<v Speaker 1>Cents pass? Dies? Well? I mean it's kind of okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I say, when a mother kills her child that

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<v Speaker 1>is also a female child, it passes. But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that her first name, she's such an insignificant character. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, I feel like one feels like she's really important.

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<v Speaker 1>For some reason. There's an argument to be made for

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<v Speaker 1>it passed because we do know Misha Barton's character's name,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Kira, right, and then we know her last name,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's there's the Mr and Mrs character. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, I think it's really funny if that scene

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<v Speaker 1>passes the back to second. I feel like because like

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<v Speaker 1>if it would be a little different for me if

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<v Speaker 1>the father was given a first name and the mother wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>But neither of them were given a first name. They

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<v Speaker 1>are Mr and mrs. We do find it out forget

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<v Speaker 1>so I say, bleaching your daughter's soup cannon? Okay, then

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say yes as well. Um so give it up

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<v Speaker 1>for the six cents for murdering of several women. Um uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's write the movie on our nipple scale. I truly

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea, so zero of five nipples based on

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<v Speaker 1>its representation of women. I mean, it's quite neutral. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not this movie doesn't hate women. It's not brutal and

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<v Speaker 1>cruel to women the way that a lot of movies,

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<v Speaker 1>especially from that year where I mean between fight Club

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<v Speaker 1>movies that like m Night Shimelin worked on, like Cruel

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<v Speaker 1>Intentions comes out this year The Mummy Never Been Kissed.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of like really regressive movies that treat women horribly.

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<v Speaker 1>This movie doesn't do that. So feminist text, No, I'm kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think it just sort of makes the

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<v Speaker 1>choice is made at some point of like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to write female characters, so I won't, which

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<v Speaker 1>is not the solution to that problem, but it's it

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<v Speaker 1>is better than saying I'm going to write female characters

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<v Speaker 1>to complete stereotypes and to like only service the male

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<v Speaker 1>characters I want to. And there's no narrative reason whysoever

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<v Speaker 1>why the child who sees dead people couldn't be a

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<v Speaker 1>little girl. There's no reason why the child psychologists couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have been a woman. Like it's just yeah, the movies

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<v Speaker 1>were like, well, these better be male characters. No one,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll say it right, And there is I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 1>like some I think it is nice that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who like busting this trope benefits. But the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of like the quote unquote evil child who is like

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<v Speaker 1>communicated with by the other world is usually made out

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<v Speaker 1>to be fully the villain of the movie, where you've

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<v Speaker 1>got like the bad seed, you've got Damien from the

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<v Speaker 1>Omen and usually if like a kid can communicate with

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<v Speaker 1>the other side, they are the devil. But in this

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<v Speaker 1>case they're the sweetest baby angel whoever lives. It's progressive.

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<v Speaker 1>It's progressive in terms of children who can speak to ghosts,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, and again because he's helping women talk

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<v Speaker 1>to other women. He's advocating for Misha Barton ghosts. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's like a one and a half. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because you're just like women are there and

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're they're not that important to the story, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're you know, the male characters aren't cruel to them.

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're they're costs playing. Sure, sure they're Scooby Doo

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<v Speaker 1>cos they're sure. They're only like wives, mother's daughters, very

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<v Speaker 1>stereotypical female roles. Yes, but one and a half one

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<v Speaker 1>and a half, and I'm going to give one to

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Collette and then I'm going to give the last two.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't feel right to get Taylee Joel Osmond is

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<v Speaker 1>too young to give him a nipple in this smoothie,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll give it to um mommy murderer, Mrs bleach soup.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe her character's nipples. I'll give my one and

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<v Speaker 1>a half nipples to his wife because she deserved better.

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<v Speaker 1>We should have learned more about her. The only thing

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<v Speaker 1>we know is that she is sad and on so loft,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, which is horrible. Remember to talk to your

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<v Speaker 1>loved ones while they sleep. That will solve all your problems. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for coming. Give it up for yourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, folks, that was our episode on the sixth Sense.

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<v Speaker 1>We did want to add in really quickly that the

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<v Speaker 1>evening after this we did watch Sex Said on two

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<v Speaker 1>Be And that's not an endorsement of two because the

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<v Speaker 1>movie is wildly offensive and also just boring and hard

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<v Speaker 1>to watch. Yeah, it is. So when we recommended you

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<v Speaker 1>watch it during the live show, we weren't joking. We were,

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<v Speaker 1>but we didn't even realize we shouldn't have even recommended

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<v Speaker 1>it as a joke. It's wildly problematic and we're so

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<v Speaker 1>we're withdrawing. We take back the recommendation. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as you heard it killed in the room, so true,

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<v Speaker 1>so to be is canceled. Moving on, Thank you to

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<v Speaker 1>everyone who came to the show. That was such a blast,

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<v Speaker 1>and of people who came to the stand up show afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>to thanks to everyone who participated, and as usual, you

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<v Speaker 1>this month we're doing the Witches of Eastwick and Moonstruck.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, we did not know before we chose that

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<v Speaker 1>topic that Sharon was voting for Biden, so we just

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<v Speaker 1>to cover our own asses. It was too late. But

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<v Speaker 1>so my one last thing is that during the live

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<v Speaker 1>show towards the end, when people were making audience were

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, asking questions and making comments and stuff. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>someone asked a question about whether or not the Lego

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<v Speaker 1>movie passes the Bichtel Tesla. There's this whole discussion on it, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it does un a kitty does she count as a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>And I totally forgot to mention that un a kitty,

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not she identifies as a human woman, she

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<v Speaker 1>definitely does have eight nipples. And as cat facts with Caitlin,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. This is and we're recording this a month

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<v Speaker 1>and a half later, I was like editing the episode

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone the whole thing is like it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gearing up to be like, well, I have the

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<v Speaker 1>answer to this and it's that you and a kitty

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<v Speaker 1>has eight nipples, and then I just like didn't remember

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<v Speaker 1>my own bit, so I'm doing it now. I like it,

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<v Speaker 1>you get it, Thank you so much and with that,

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<v Speaker 1>have a great week. Yeah you say it's day safe

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<v Speaker 1>Bye bye