1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: I am all in that I am all in with 2 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio Podcast. Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, 3 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: we are back. I Am all in Podcast, I Heart 4 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: Radio one eleven Productions. We are joined by Danielle Romo, 5 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: Terra s our newest member, and the one and only 6 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: Amy Sugarman. The straw that stirs the drink, the paddle 7 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: that turns the butter, the paddle that I don't know 8 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop there anyway, The paddle that waxed your 9 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: fanny when you're being bad, I try. What did you 10 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: think of this Lane centric episode? I loved it. I 11 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: really loved it, you know, I just you know, I 12 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: had a thought last night. Once in a while, I 13 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: get a thought, and I want to share my thought, 14 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: not thoughts, that's not plural thought. One thought. I had 15 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: one thought. And it seems like Lane is the Korean 16 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: version of Laurel I, and we are watching Lane go 17 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: through what Laurel I probably went through at some level 18 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: in real time. Uh. And isn't it interesting that did did? 19 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: Did you just blow your mind? Actually a little bit yes, 20 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: A little bit yes. And that's why because with the difficult, 21 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: strict mother trying to control it. I'm like, oh my god, 22 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: just exploded. Lane is Laureli. She rebels, she's rebelling against 23 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: a conservative mother. I actually, yeah, that's why. That's the 24 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: correct That's Rory's sister. That's why they're best friends. That's 25 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: why she's always over. And that's why Laurie's lauralized such 26 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: a great mother because she has been through this. She 27 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: understands this dynamic. That's her real mother. See every a 28 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: lot of fans wish that Lauren Graham was their mother. 29 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: I don't blame them, because she's a spectacular mother. The 30 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: character is spectacular, right, and Lane wants that too. My 31 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: head is actually exploded because I never thought of that. 32 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: Of the parallels between Lane and her mother and Laurela 33 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: and Emily, Yeah, it's yeah, It's just Mrs Kim is 34 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: almost like an enhanced version of Emily. That's why even 35 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: be more. That's why Emily and and and Mrs Kim 36 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: got along so well. Remember when they god, yes, when 37 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: she went shot and they went back and forth on 38 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: the price and it was like they respected each other. 39 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: They Yeah, Scott, I had a thought. That was a thought, 40 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: Thank you. I actually am impressed by that. Um well, 41 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: it just became, you know, finally we get to spend 42 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: some time, some real time with Lane, and I was 43 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: I was grateful for it because she's I tell you, 44 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: I don't think and you know another I did have 45 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: another thought and this is too much. There could be 46 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: another thought coming. Just look, but fasten your seatbelt. I 47 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: know it's a rare occasion. Let's mark the time. Time 48 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: mark um. Basically Laurel I. And here's the thing about 49 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: Lauren Graham. I wonder why she never got into stand 50 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: up comedy, because that's basically what her character is. Laurelize 51 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: the stand up comedian. She's making light of everything. She's 52 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: hysterically funny in every any situation, in every situation. And 53 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, a career's stand up comic was waiting for her. Now, yeah, 54 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: she did it with those p t A moms. How 55 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: how great was that scene and how clear were her 56 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: comedic skills on display? It was so apparent that I'm 57 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: not saying she missed her calling. But when we when 58 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: we actually have her on on the podcast, I've got 59 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: to ask her about this because she you know, she 60 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: was She's in that kind of Whitney Cummings category. Brainy, beautiful, um, 61 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: incredibly intuitive, incredibly funny person and when you see her 62 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: on talk shows you realize how funny she is. I 63 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: haven't read her books, but I'm sure they're written in 64 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: that same tone she takes over the talk shows. I mean, 65 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: she's funnier than the hosts, right. So she tells her 66 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: stories and she's slaying all the time, right. Good for her. 67 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: M that's one question I'd want to ask her anyway, well, 68 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: amongst many. UM, okay, Daniel, do the synopsis. Because we 69 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: got all carried away. I was like, are we going 70 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: to order this episode or no? A little bit. I'm 71 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: gonna loosen that up a little bit because it started 72 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: to get kind of annoying. I was irritating myself. I 73 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: was so annoying. So I'm okay. So this one is 74 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: Season three, episode four. One's got class and the other 75 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: one dies. D y E yes exactly, d y e 76 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: s uh. Synopsis. Lore Li is invited to give a 77 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: speech at stars Hollow High School p t A, and 78 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: she convinces Luke to speak to Lane, needs to find 79 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: a plan to secretly attend her band practices, and tries 80 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: to rebel against her mom by dyeing her hair. Jessin 81 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: Shane's relationship is whatever, and Luke tries to confront him 82 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, here we go another Daniel Palladino written episode, 83 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: which again you can tell because I thought this episode 84 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: was perfectly written. Like I, I was laughing out loud 85 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: multiple times, and I also felt like it moved a 86 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: lot happening right and listen and Lane and it Canko again, uh, 87 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: putting her very formidable comedic skills on display here every 88 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: single scene, She's nailing it all over the place. And 89 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: the thing that impressed me in both the most better 90 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: performance was when she and Adam Brody were outside after 91 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: you know people you know, Todd started to quit or 92 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: Zack started to quit, and then John Cabrera quit and 93 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: she went outside. She was all huffy, you know, she was. 94 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: She was steaming um and Adam was trying to calm 95 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: her down. And and it's that she never went over 96 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: the top with the anger. She kept a comedic. She 97 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: kept it within the discipline. She kept it within the 98 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: style of the show, which is so hard to do 99 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: because when you're bubbling and going that fast and you're 100 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: bubbling up so much, it's it's it's easy to go 101 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: over the top, and maybe she did and they just 102 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: calmed her down. But it was very, very skillfully texically 103 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: and it really kept me in the moment. So I 104 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: love about Gilmore Girls. That I realized I was listening 105 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: to a different podcast this week that's called The Rewatchables. 106 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: I always listened to it. I'm obsessed with the Rewatchable. 107 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: So basically it does what we do for Gilmore Girls 108 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: on all different movies. So they're talking about the movie 109 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: Panic Room to remember that movie with Jodie Foster, and 110 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: what they point out is so in it, Jodie Foster's 111 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: daughter is diabetic, but you never get the weird scene 112 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: where she's like, you know, daughter, you better grab some 113 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 1: orange juice because of your diabetes. Like it doesn't shove 114 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: it in, like you just subtly see something in the 115 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: refrigerator and there's like a minute reference. And I feel 116 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: like Gilmore Girls does that too. They don't bang us 117 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: over the head of anything. It's like and dare I 118 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: bring up I don't want to bring it up. But 119 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: the Christopher showing up scene, it's like going back to it. 120 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: It's like, we don't need to be banged over the 121 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: head is bang is a bang bang, it's not banged. 122 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: And in this episode there was so much nuance and 123 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: then you're like, oh so good. Like with Rory and Shane, 124 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: Rory never says to Lane, I hate that check. She sucks. 125 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: She never says that. You just are like right. It's 126 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: like when you think that Rory doesn't have an answer 127 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: to that situation. She she went back in and bought 128 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: that black dye and delivered it. Okay, so we'll start 129 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: from the beginning, which is good with Shane and Jess 130 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: because we're in the diner and it's Rory Lorly and 131 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: Lane comes in, so we know there's some band elements happening. 132 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: And then be bop boom, here comes Shane and it's 133 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: just makeout city and I think you say make a hole. Um. 134 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: They referred to me as weird Rory Rory. They she 135 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: said you're weird, and then Rory said, but he's always 136 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: been weird? Is that the perception? Yeah? Remember when he 137 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: when he serves them to he said, dead cow, dead cows? Weird? 138 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: I was like, who wants to eat a burger after 139 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: your healthy? Luke doesn't eat the way they eat, and 140 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: so he always has to remind them from the beginning 141 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: of time you should be eating like asparagus. He's a 142 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: he's a healthy guy. He's a green guy. Good cowt 143 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: so good. The fake eating was a little bit too 144 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: fake for me though this episode because with the tiny 145 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: little bite out of the burger bun. My favorite when 146 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: Lane stole the burger for Rory and she goes, oh, 147 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: and then you look at the burger and there's like 148 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: a sessame seed off burg. I also have to comment 149 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: that I love the background actor in this scene. So 150 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: basically Rory and they're walking out and there's a couple 151 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: sitting right by the door and Shane blows in and 152 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: the woman at that table he does have to rewatch it. 153 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: She just gives the I like, and she maybe was 154 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: directed to do so, like oh like as Shane flies 155 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: in and then she gives her the stink guy as 156 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: she's making being out with Jess. I was like, oh, 157 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: way to go, because it was what I would have done, right. 158 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: That's a good background actor. She she was definitely directed 159 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: to do that, and if she did it of her 160 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: own volition, Steve Robin, the director went to her and said, 161 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: you know what, do that that's great. That reads great 162 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: because they're on the monitor. Everybody's in a video village 163 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: looking at it on the monitor. How does this look? 164 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: And how does that look? Too much? And you know, 165 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: and they're really watching for the extras and saying tamping 166 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: them down. It's like, you're doing too much. You're doing 167 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: too much. That one wasn't too much. That one they 168 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: probably loved. Yeah, yes, because I was like, if someone 169 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: blows through a door and sort of pushes someone aside 170 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: and goes make out with a dude, you're gonna be like, 171 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: what has happened? That's that's not stars like I do 172 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: I do? I like her, I do like her. I 173 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: liked her in that scene with Rory where because she's 174 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: not letting Rory get the better of her. You know, 175 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: she's fighting, but she's tough, right, and she doesn't seem 176 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: to let Jess walk all over her, like when they're 177 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: on the phone. It's kind of like she seems like 178 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: she's sort of a strong girl. Oh she's tough, Yeah, 179 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: she's she's a girl. Her personality, she wouldn't have gone 180 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: into the closet, although maybe she's just like, I don't 181 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: want to deal with your right in the face of 182 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: Luke Daan's she's everybody goes in the close. Come on kidding? 183 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: You mean you mean butcher Dans? Was that your picture? 184 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: Just tell us it wasn't my hair, but it was 185 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: my face. No, they photo shopped they did. That was 186 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: not my body, It was only my face. Cut your 187 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: face out and put it in there. They put a 188 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: younger version of my face. Yes, yeah, I think I 189 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: come back to you when you saw that where you're like, 190 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: that was funny. But it wasn't my hair. That was 191 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: somebody else's hair. They put some some flat top hair 192 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: do on there, and uh, that was somebody else's body too. 193 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: I never ran a track. Here's my question for you. 194 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: Is a fib a lie? Give me an example, like 195 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: Lane Lane, she FIBs to her mom like she says, 196 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: I'm with Laura lyon Rory, even though it's a fib 197 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: because she's only with them for eight point two seconds 198 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: as she's doing band practice or whatever. To her, it's 199 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: a fib. To her mom's it's a lie. It's depends 200 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: on your perspective because she's gonna get a cane in 201 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: if that ever she ever gets caught fibbing you. Know right, 202 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: she's gonna get a biblical cane in so yeah, definitely. 203 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: So where where are Danielle? Do you think a fib 204 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: is a lie? I think what Scott said was perfect. 205 00:12:55,240 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: It's it's all according to your perspective, because she wasn't 206 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: technically lying. However, she definitely admitted the truth. She's she's 207 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: moving the gold post for her. She knows her. She 208 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: had too. Because I live by the words of Lane. 209 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: I will fib, but I won't lie. But she is lying, 210 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: She's okay. And then we saw that the town at night. 211 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: It was beautiful. They showed this great shot of the 212 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: town at night. And then we go into band practice 213 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: and this is the first time we see Zack and 214 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: Bryant m hm, which was massive. Danielle has no idea why, 215 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: but but we know, Yeah, do I know? Why? Why 216 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: is it so massive? God? Not even answering that. I'm 217 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: just gonna let you guys live your lives and follow 218 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: the journey. I can't tell you. It will ruin so 219 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: many things. I will say, I'm very stoked for Dave 220 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: and Lane to whatever is going to happen there. I 221 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: love it. I like that relationship, how it's starting and 222 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: how he is. And you know, I can see why 223 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: he I can see why, I see why he went 224 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: on to a bigger and better things. Yes, because he's 225 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: so darling and he has amazing timing. He really has 226 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: the cadence for this show and actually took it with 227 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: him to the o C. He does speak Gilmore a 228 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: bit when he went to the o C. But you 229 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: know what, he wasn't really doing the Gilmore thing as 230 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: a member of this cast. He was doing his own thing. 231 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: And I don't know how they let him get away 232 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: with it, but I think they liked what he had 233 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: to bring to the table so much they just sort 234 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: of let it pass because he wasn't flying through the dialogue. 235 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: He wasn't. But he has a cadence and a rhythm 236 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: all his own, right, Yes, And he is like that 237 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: on the o C. Is he? I never I never 238 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: watched it. I might be wrong, but I think that 239 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: had he not left to do the o C, they 240 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: probably would have made him more prominent on gil More. Ah. 241 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: My gut is they would have kept him around, you know. 242 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: You know what all of the here's the interesting thing 243 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: about that, and here's a little inside information, behind the 244 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: scenes stuff. Um, all of those young guys, the uh, 245 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: the Chad, Michael Murray's, the Jared's then and and by 246 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: the way, let me say right now, I am sending 247 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: out love and support to Jared Padlicky and his lovely family. 248 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: I am hoping he recovers. I understand that he was 249 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: a passenger in a car. There was an accident. Jensen Echols, 250 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: his partner and crime for Supernatural, said he could have 251 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: been killed, but the airbag saved him, and Jared's quote 252 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: in Entertainment Weekly was it was like going twelve rounds 253 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: with Mike Tyson, as if anybody could survive that except 254 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: for a vendor holy Field, um and the guy on 255 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: the Southwest plane. Right. But you know, hoping you recover 256 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: a hundred percent. Take all the time you need, buddy, 257 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: and uh, we're hoping you come on the podcast we 258 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: all soon and tell us about your your wonderful career 259 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: and your time on Gilmore Girls. So all the best 260 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: to you and your wife and sons, um and speedy recovery, Buddy, 261 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: speedy recovery. We're you know, everybody is pulling for you. Yeah. Anyway, 262 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: let's get back to what we were talking about. What 263 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: we're talking about. So we're talking about ban practice and 264 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: they're you know, they're practicing at the record store. It's 265 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: the first time we meet Zack and Brian, right, we're 266 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: doing that, We're doing the Adam Brodie Cadence thing. So 267 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: he was really his own guy. He was just so 268 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: fully formed a character that he must have walked into 269 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: the audition and they just went, yeah, okay, don't change 270 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: a thing, don't speed him up, don't get him to 271 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: adhere to the Gilmore speed trap, you know, that kind 272 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: of a thing, because he was just handling it so well. Yeah, 273 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: he's very likable, yes, and against Lane and her hysteria, right, 274 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: her piste I mean justifiably piste off. People are gonna 275 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: quit or band for God's sake. All the efforts she 276 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: had to go through too to get that, which we'll 277 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: talk about in pop culture. But they make the reference 278 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: to Pete Best, which was that the like the Beatle 279 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: that never was. I think he was the guy he 280 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: dropped out. They either kicked no, they they actually no. 281 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: He was in Hamburg with them for a year or 282 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: so and Ringo quit. Who Pete Best quit the Beatles? 283 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: I think he I believe he was in Hamburg with 284 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: the Beatle for a couple you know, the Beatles became 285 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: the Beatles in Hamburg, Germany. They played thousands of shows 286 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: in two years. I mean, it's all they did was 287 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: play shows. They played five shows on a Sunday, they 288 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: played six shows on a Saturday, you know what I mean. 289 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: That's all they did. That's why they were so tight 290 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: and so great. And Ringo Starr was in Hamburg too, 291 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: and he was He was the most famous person in Hamburg. 292 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: Ringo stars and they always wanted him and they finally 293 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: got him. I correct, correct, my own error. Was fired. 294 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: He was not. He did not. He was fired because 295 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: they didn't like what he was doing with some of 296 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: the songs and they they needed a better drummer. Um. 297 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, great scene is evidence that he was fired 298 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: because of his good looks. It's never a good thing. Okay. 299 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: So now you don't want to compete with Paul and John. 300 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the photo. Paul is a more well 301 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: to each their own, but Paul is handsome, so okay. 302 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: So Lane's in her closets. Her closet was amazing. And 303 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: Roy's in her room, and I noticed a fund some 304 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: fun little tidbits as you guys in Rory's room, like 305 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: a nutcracker up in her room, Like the room was amazing, 306 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: and Lane's closet phenomenal. So then okay, sorry, while they're 307 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: on the phone, Debb Debbie Fincher clicks in and then 308 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: that whole thing happens. I Swedberg from the Seinfeld Fame. God, 309 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: she her mom hair was so bad. Yeah, wait, she's 310 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: not the one that dies. Look in the envelopes is 311 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: by the way, not today, but one of these days. 312 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: You have no idea how many people want us to 313 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: do a deep dive into the sponge worthiness, So one 314 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: of these days will do a special. I mean they 315 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: ask every week, so we gotta give it one day. 316 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: But no, oh my god, she died. Look in the 317 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: envelope her mom hair, Deb's mom hair, by the way, 318 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: great scene. My favorite part of it was when when 319 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: Laura I clicked off because she said, well, how's your 320 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: how how are your kids? She just held the phone 321 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: start talking to Rory. It's like she's just gonna talk 322 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: about her kids for a couple of minutes. I don't 323 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: need to know. Uh. The timing on that was beautiful. 324 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: Everything was great about that scene, um and uh, she 325 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: didn't know who the heck that woman was, so it 326 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: was hysterical. It was I thought this was such a 327 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: great episode for Lauren because she got to display in 328 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: a sort of very lighthearted way her comedy skills. It 329 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: was really Lane and Laurelai, which makes me even more 330 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: of an explosion because of your thing you said at 331 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: the top of this episode, like whoa. Also, the fashion 332 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: was so five stars in this episode, and Lane's fashion 333 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: was amazing, from the orange shirt, her original polo, to 334 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: her plaid that had like a little bit of a 335 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: Western element to it. Was just her fashion was babbies. Okay, 336 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: So then you can hold on. You can't you can't 337 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: talk fashion if you're not going to mention the mom's sweater. 338 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: You just say you have to mention the sweater. Worse, 339 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: we will we will discuss more when we get to 340 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: that scene with the lamb, the Lambs sweater and the 341 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: deer sweater. So Lane's mom wants to force her to 342 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: go to religious college and really force her to do 343 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: what she MSRs Kim wants. H Well, she's she's not 344 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: going to bring up the band and then the face 345 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: of that going down hard. She's all aboard a board. 346 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: Oh man, look, she's in a bad spot. What's she 347 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: gonna do. She's she's got to make it work at 348 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: the local music store. She just has to. And I 349 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: think that I don't know. It's like, Zach, come on, 350 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: you know, you just practice, you don't listen. I used 351 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: to practice with the band all the time and we 352 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: would practice really loud, and you know what, it didn't help. 353 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: It didn't help anything. It doesn't make you better. It 354 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: just made us more deaf. It doesn't make you better. 355 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: There's no reason for it. And exactly just turn it down. 356 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: Just turn it way down, so then you can sort 357 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: of layer the guitars and you can sort of weave 358 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: stuff together. And you know, it's amazing that that he 359 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: didn't know that. Um, I don't know. Yeah, So that 360 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: for me an inauspicious debut for Zach, right, you know, 361 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: interesting character, for sure. I'm sure he comes around full circle. 362 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: But you know, the first we see Zack he quits 363 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: the band, it's like, what this is Lane's dream? What 364 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: are you doing? Bro? You know? And then John and 365 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: then who's John Cabara's character? Ryan? And then Ryan wants 366 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: to put the band but I guess that's how these 367 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 1: things are in high school. Right. It's like, I'm not 368 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: feeling it, man, So I'm at here. She didn't know 369 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: them before, she just met them. You know, they don't 370 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: go to her school. I mean, as an audience, we 371 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: know how big of a dream this is for for 372 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: Lane and how it's not I mean, it's the reason 373 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: people join rock bands and run away from home. She's 374 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: she's that not stereotypical situation, but it's like, you know, 375 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: whether it's you know, abuse or it's alcohol, whatever it is, 376 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, we got to get away from 377 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: this and join a rock band and go be famous. 378 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: Um um, She's she's that girl and she really wants 379 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: to do this, and I think it's a It's it 380 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: makes that power, the power of that character palpable because 381 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's so relatable. I mean, it's so relatable 382 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: and just a great episode for her. But I feel 383 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: like kids, they do seem like high school kids. Were 384 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: doing another show about nine o two one oh, and 385 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: those kids never seemed like they were in high school. 386 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: They were like ten years older, whereas these guys seem 387 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: the age they seen sixteen seventeen. They Act sixteen seventeen. 388 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: It's they definitely seemed like kids in high school. Yeah, like, 389 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 1: come on, Lane, you can figure it out. You can 390 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: get to Hartford. You know you can do it. Yeah, 391 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: I wonder, I guess. And here's another thing. I did 392 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: have another thought. Okay, I had another thought. The thoughts 393 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: got together at head Babies. If Mrs Kim is so 394 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: obsessed with Lane's education, and she's so concerned with Lane's future, 395 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: why isn't she in private school? Maybe they couldn't afford it. Okay, 396 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: there's scholarships, there's all kinds of there's there's financial aid, 397 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: there's right, it's a good point. Is Mrs Kim not 398 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: a woman of true hustle and means? I mean, she 399 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: could have figured that out. What's she doing in stars Hollow? 400 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: That's a great point. Not. I mean, it's not Chilton. 401 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how highly rated Star Stars Hallow High 402 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: School is. But it's a small town right in Connecticut, 403 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: so it must be Connecticut as a great school. So 404 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: it's good, right, But it's not private school. And also 405 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: you would think that she would have gone to a 406 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: private school just because it was strict, you know, wearing 407 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: a uniform. Absolutely, this this, this like Mrs Kim, how 408 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: do you say no to Mrs Kemp. She would have 409 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: gone to any private school, made a deal with some 410 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: antique furniture or whatever, giving him half their business. She 411 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: would have done anything so that her daughter could go 412 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: to private school. Why didn't she do it? Do you 413 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: think it's because it's closer to her house so she 414 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: can actually watch lanes every move And she knows everyone 415 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: in Stars Hollow. That is an interesting point. She knows 416 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: every single person, every kid, every parent in that school. 417 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: That's a good point. She's got the eyes at school, 418 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: things flowing. Yeah, they're right across the street. She's right 419 00:25:54,720 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: across the town circle, town Square. Okay, So now we're 420 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: at the inn and lorealizes prepping her speech and you 421 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: get on the phone and you're like, I want to 422 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: back out, and she's doing the baby voice versus the 423 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: Louis Armstrong voice. That was highly comedic but very odd. Found. Yeah, 424 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: Michelle was perfect. Oh god, Oh, the man slays me. 425 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: The man just absolutely slays me. Did you just say 426 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: says that makes me so happy? It kills me. That 427 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: guy kills me. He delivers I mean, what did he 428 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: have one scene, what do you have? Five lines of dialogue? 429 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: And he steals the I don't know if he stole 430 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: the episode, but man, what a highlight that was. He 431 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: went so fast with it that I almost wanted to 432 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: watch it like eight more times because he is just 433 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: cruising with the liners, making fun of her. His timing 434 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: is perfect, It's perfect. He's perfect. It's just unbelievable. I 435 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: love that guy. I want to bring him back on 436 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: the podcast. Guy. I asked, Scott, you might want to 437 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: pop him a text because they pitched him to me. 438 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: He's got his new show coming. Yeah, and so I said, 439 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: we really want him to come on again. Yeah, he'll 440 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: come on. I know. He's so great. I was just 441 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: with him in Where was I with him? I said it? 442 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: I told him I was with him in Was I 443 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: with him in Atlanta? Yeah? At a convention? I was 444 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: with him. Yeah he was, Yeah, I was. We hung 445 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: out the whole time. He's great. We are booth boothe 446 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: were next to each other. Were you popular? Yeah? Yeah. 447 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: People wanted to double selfie. They wanted to you know, selfie. 448 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: I kept interrupting him. He kept interrupting me. Hey, Scott, 449 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: they wanted double and like Okay, excuse me, I'll have 450 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: to go over here. Now he's right there. He was 451 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: right next door. He was my neighbor. Did you guys 452 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: notice it's fall obviously because at the beginning of season three, 453 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: but they're really showing us fall with the pumpkins, the 454 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: Halloween decor. Yeah, that made me. He's like so excited. 455 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: And it's April here the Darnet still got a couple 456 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: of months ago. So Rory and Lane are walking through 457 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: town and this was another thing that I thought was 458 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: brilliant about this episode. They walk into the beauty shop, 459 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: which we've never been to the beauty shop. They're shopping. 460 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: Are you are you waitte? Are you? Are you skipping? 461 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: The Luke wanting to back out of the she said 462 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: it was awkward. That's I mean, but there's more to it. Okay, 463 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: go tell no, no, I mean you go, you go 464 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: you tell Well. I did think the baby voice was awkward, 465 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: and the Louis Armstrong voice was like funny but awkward, 466 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: and then that she convinces Luke to do it. I 467 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: noticed something about these two. The banter between these two 468 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: is so even when it's awkward and cringe e, you 469 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: still feel the love. It comes through loud and clear. 470 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: They are perfectly matched. They are perfect for each other. 471 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: And you don't expect Luke to the You don't expect 472 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,239 Speaker 1: those things to come out of Luke's mouth, right if 473 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: you're looking at him like, that's the last thing I 474 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: expected that guy to say. Which is that? Which is 475 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: why the character is so great. It's what he says, 476 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: and it makes Jess so brilliant because Jess calls him 477 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: out at the end of this episode. So that's I 478 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: thought that was, like, oh and Jess is Jess is 479 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: going down a couple of notches in my book, and 480 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: the character's going down a little bit. I agree. He 481 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: gave a look look when when when what's the girl's name? 482 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: The blonde? Shane and Jess passed Rory and and and 483 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: Lane on the street, you know, Jess looked back and 484 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: kind of gave her a dirty look. He's hurt, he's 485 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: broken hearted. He is. That's why he says nothing to me. 486 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: I don't even know her last name. The girl, he says, 487 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: the girl I like, doesn't want to be with me. 488 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: Part of course he gave her the dirty looft If 489 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: only he knew that Rory's flipping her lid on Shane. 490 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: He would be so happy. Literally, Jess is just using 491 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: Shane as a rebound. I get that. But listen, you know, 492 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: Rory got on a bus and went to New York City, 493 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: she'd never been there before to go find him. She 494 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,479 Speaker 1: found him, Then he comes to the wedding, they kissed. 495 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: She kisses him. I mean, it's like, you know you're 496 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: going to break up with Dean. So in the beauty 497 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: shop the thing that I thought was so brilliant, just 498 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: beyond brilliant. They're shopping, they're doing all their hair thing, 499 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: and they're they're going, going, going, and then boom, Shane, 500 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: Like I did not even I've seen this episode at 501 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: least three times, and I forgot she was in there. 502 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, what did you think, Danielle when she there? 503 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: She was? I mean, I loved it. That's the best, 504 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: you know, Like that's especially her being on the phone 505 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: kind of ignoring Rory a little bit and Rory demanding attention. 506 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: It's just it was on the phone with Jess. I know, 507 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: that's the best part. That's the later scene. That's the 508 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: later scene. I think she goes, that's okay, that's fine. 509 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: You guys. So, yeah, there's Shane. And I think it's 510 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: interesting that she never says to Lane that girl, that girl, yeah, 511 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: you know what, the best friend. She doesn't say, I 512 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: don't like that girl because I love Jess, like she 513 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: can't even she does kem and how about it in 514 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: the bathroom when Lane's like, I want someone like you 515 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: and you know, like Dean, like you and Dean, and 516 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: She's all you can tell that she's just like I know, 517 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: and she still can't even tell Lane like her. Oh 518 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: my god, any I didn't even think about that until now. 519 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: You're so right, Like literally, this has happened twice now, 520 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: like it was with Paris and Rory back when they were, 521 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, in their summer camp thing, and then now 522 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: where Lane's like, you have the perfect guy. I want 523 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: your love and she still can't even say it's not 524 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: We'll imagine everyone tells you every day you have the 525 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: perfect guy with the perfect guy, but you're inside, you're like, 526 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: I don't think I like this dude anymore. But you're 527 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: like so conflicted because everyone's telling you this is the 528 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: guy and also telling you the guy you like isn't 529 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: the guy a teenager, I also think she loves both, 530 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: though I think she's kind of in the middle of 531 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: she loves Dean for who he is, but she has 532 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: this crush on Chess, so she's kind of she doesn't 533 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: want to admit that at all. I disagree. I think, yeah, 534 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: I think she loved Dean and like hasn't algio with 535 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: him and like history, but she doesn't care for him 536 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: now because if she cared for him now, she would 537 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: let him go, in my opinion, because she's so enamored, 538 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: which that's very evolved for a teenager. People hang you 539 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: know before you know, Yeah, you're right, But like, I don't. 540 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: I don't see her connection with Dean at all anymore. Well, 541 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: we saw it last week a little bit in the diner. 542 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: They were very cute, and I think even you admitted 543 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: they were cute. There's something there that remains. But it's 544 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: definitely like the flame is dying. Yeah, but she knows that. 545 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's almost like they're a married couple 546 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: at this point from her point of view, because he's 547 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: just always going to be there. She can rely on him. 548 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: He's a rock and maybe she felt it, you know 549 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: that maybe the flame is doused a little bit right, 550 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: She's not breaking up with him for some reason. He 551 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: is he started interrupted? Is he is he giving her 552 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: a reason to break up with him? No, so other 553 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: than just she doesn't like him as much. I have 554 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: a question. Do you think if Jess went up to 555 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: Rory in this episode and was like, I want to 556 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 1: be with you, but you need to break up a dean? 557 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: Would she break up a dean? Mhmm, I'm not going 558 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 1: to answer that. Oh no, does it happen shit times? 559 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: Are you predicting the future? I don't know. I don't 560 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: know what what she would do, because it's hard to 561 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: let go of somebody who has been so there for you, 562 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: built you a car, loves you unconditionally, doesn't necessarily understand 563 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 1: you a d um But I know she just doesn't 564 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: see that long that's not a long term arm thing 565 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: for her. That's gonna be somebody who maybe we'll be 566 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: in her life for a very long time on a 567 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: friendship basis, or some a very special someone. Right, But 568 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: you know they ain't walking down the aisle together. Well, 569 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: maybe they are. I don't know. I mean you no, 570 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,919 Speaker 1: I'm just knowing hypothetically. Daniel, What did you just say 571 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: to Tara, I go to do this. You guys, I 572 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: legitately watching this for the first time, so I know 573 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: every exciting. Everyone criticized us in the beginning when we 574 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: started this podcast because they were like, Danyelle doesn't even 575 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: know the show. Sorry, that's probably not the tone to us, 576 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: but it was like we had a point. Our point 577 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: was Scott's in it. I've seen it almost every episode, 578 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: at least three to five times. Taras seen it a 579 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: lot of times. We wanted somebody that's watched this for 580 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: the virgin gilness. That was the original title original for 581 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 1: the show was Virgin Yeah. Okay, So we go into 582 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: the diner and she calls you, Lucas. Did you catch that? Lad? Yeah? 583 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: Somebody replay it, but I'm pretty sure she goes into 584 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: the diner, you're not dressed for the speech, and she's like, Lucas, 585 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: unless I misheard it, you know, I want to go back. 586 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: You know, the only thing that could have made the 587 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: let's go back to the the the Rory and what's 588 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 1: her name again, Shane Shan Shane Rory Shane Sane. I'm 589 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: telling you, and I'm not trying to be sarcastic or 590 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: even a little bit of wisest, but um, I half expected. 591 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 1: There was a part of me and I was hoping 592 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: that it wouldn't happen. There was a part of me 593 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: that I thought, maybe, um, from behind some of the 594 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: display cans, that Christopher would break through them and say, Rory, 595 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: why haven't you called me? I've been There was just 596 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: a there was a twins, there was a tinge. There 597 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: was a part of me that was like, God, is 598 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: Christopher gonna show up here? Because I didn't expect Shane 599 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: and I like that. I said, that's how you do that. 600 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,439 Speaker 1: But then it went back to the other episode when 601 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: you know they cut a hole in the roof and 602 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: drop him in, uh Emily's house. I thought, if he 603 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: shows up here, God, do you imagine christ or isn't 604 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: doing this with the shampoo? That would have been kind 605 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: of awesome. He knows where the bookstore is, Remember he 606 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: went to the bookstore. He's like in Doss Market. Underneath 607 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: the candle ups or something. Miss Patty lifts the candle 608 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: opens says, oh hello. I wouldn't have been mad. It 609 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been It would have been um. Anyway, where 610 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: are we going now? So Desyner and She's like, you're 611 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 1: not dressed, and he's like, this is my power outfit. 612 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 1: It's my power outfit. And then she takes him upstairs 613 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: and Jesse is in the apartment and they kind of 614 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: he doesn't he way. This made me laugh. You go 615 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: in like the bathroom to change and she's like, th 616 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: shirt off, we've been to the lake or whatever. And 617 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: then which I thought was kind of flirty, flirty, like 618 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: I was definitely being like, I've seen you shirtless before, 619 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,439 Speaker 1: and then dropping that little hint she knows that Jesse 620 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: has got a girl in the closet. So talk about 621 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: that scene. You know, that scene showed me that Laurel 622 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,919 Speaker 1: I was really happy being with Luke and commanding him 623 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 1: to put on a shirt and clean up. She wants 624 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: to be that in that situation. That's what it showed me. 625 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 1: She wanted to be married, she wanted to be with him. 626 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: It's like, I'm really comfortable with this guy. I'm so 627 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: comfortable with this guy. I can order him around, i 628 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: can grab him by the shoulder, I can push him 629 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: up the stairs. And he likes it. And he liked 630 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: it too. He liked that she was doing She's the 631 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: only person in his life that can get away with 632 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: that because they like each other so much, you know, 633 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: and it's like finally a situation where they can have 634 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: some physical contact or be in contact with with each other, 635 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: except you know, as as customer and proprietor you know. 636 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: So I just think he relaxed a little bit, and 637 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: he was, you know, as looking forward to doing this 638 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: speech thing and spending time with Laurel as he can be. 639 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: And he's doing it for her. He has no interest 640 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: in doing this speech at all or going back to 641 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: the school or any of it. He's doing it to 642 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 1: be with her, right right. Did you suspect Luke to 643 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,399 Speaker 1: be a parrot head? A parrot head that's the name 644 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 1: of the Jimmy Buffett fans. They're called parrot No, I 645 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: didn't know. I did not expect that. That was great. Yeah, 646 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: wait what, Danielle, No, Tara was buffet head. Not it's 647 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: actually parrot head. They call it the wrong name in 648 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: the show. But Buffett fans are actually called parrot heads. 649 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 1: It's it's commonly associated with a buffet fan. But she 650 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: did say buffet head, Yeah she did, Yeah she did. 651 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,760 Speaker 1: But it's really like that's one of Tar's pop culture. 652 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: We'll get to it later this week, because I actually 653 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: confirmed we called parrot heads. I mean, unless I'm insane, 654 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 1: I'm not. I know, I'm right. Okay, So then we 655 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: so what did you think of Shane in the closet 656 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: and how Laura La knew and Luke did it? And 657 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: I could see it in her face. She's talking to 658 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: him and all of a sudden, you see in her eyeballs. 659 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: That's why I love her acting, because you're literally like 660 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: she gave him this look. We should freeze frame it 661 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: on the Instagram because she gives him a look like 662 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: saying like, there's a girl in your closet and I 663 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: know it, but I'm not your mom, so I'm going 664 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: to cruise out of here, but I'll be telling your uncle. 665 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: And also while she was looking through the closet, she 666 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: you know, like, I think this is what you're talking about, 667 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: but like Jess looked back to like, hey, you know 668 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: yet that it was that closet. For some reason, I 669 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 1: thought the girl was in a different closet. No, because 670 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: she was looking through the shirt see her. I think 671 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 1: that was the whole point, Like she was looking through 672 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 1: the closet and she kind of if you know, if 673 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 1: if you rewatch the scene, she's like looking through it 674 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: and kind of pauses and looks back and has a 675 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 1: connection with Jess, so that I'm sure that's these things. 676 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: Was that? What do you think? I think you're right 677 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: now that I think about it. Yeah, isn't it the 678 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: only clause it in that I didn't get the vibe 679 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: that she saw her. I got the vibe that she 680 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: just knew Jeff was up to something right, because he 681 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,359 Speaker 1: kept looking back and it was all squirrely he was looking. 682 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: She saw him looking back at the closet, and I 683 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 1: thought there was a little noise. Yeah, they need to 684 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: get some eagle lines because he did that awkward move 685 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: back to the chair as soon as they walked in. Yeah. Yeah, 686 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,959 Speaker 1: he did look healthy. So then we got a Lane's 687 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: gigantic bathroom. Did anybody else? House is huge? House Its huge. 688 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: Rory's wearing an awesome orange shirt, doing her hair. It's 689 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: totally stinging. Lane's like running around. Oh my god. That 690 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: is my favorite scene of the entire episode because when 691 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: Lane runs around the town square practically with a bleach 692 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: in her hair around her shoulder, so she's like, Rory's like, 693 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 1: I'm dizzy from the smell, and then she's reading the poddle. 694 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 1: Is your skill broken? I don't know my stone, my 695 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,919 Speaker 1: scalp is broken, I don't know my skal thought. Well, 696 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 1: that scene was hysterical. So my only question about that 697 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 1: scene is is why weren't they sort of whisper shouting. 698 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean they were talking at like a higher volume. 699 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 1: Um when Mrs Kim came home and I was thinking, 700 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: Mrs Kim can hear them upstairs? I don't know. That 701 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: house is so big, I mean the antique stores in 702 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: the house. It's like, but where did Rory exit too? 703 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,720 Speaker 1: She got the window and out off over the roof. 704 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: I couldn't figure out if suddenly she was on the 705 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: first floor. I know, I thought the same thing. Yeah, 706 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: that was confusing, And I was also confused at how 707 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: quickly Lane got her hair back to black. Yeah. It's 708 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 1: very course, like literally within the next scene her hair 709 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: was black. I was like, WHOA, Well, first she went each, 710 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: then she went purple, then she freaked out. Then Rory 711 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 1: goes to get the black, and then it was black. 712 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: We're not totally sure on the the amount of time. 713 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: It could have been a few hours because Laurel is 714 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: given the speech and then she has the whole drama 715 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: with the Moms TV Magic um and the pie is done, 716 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: very very funny stuff. Okay, so now we go to 717 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: the school and this was like beyond Butch the Kids, 718 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: classic scene between classic reveal Butch Danes. That's classic. We 719 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 1: see that, We see the goofy face shot of me 720 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: when I don't know how all that did. You guys 721 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 1: see the poster in the school that says homework don't 722 00:44:52,280 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: leave home without it? So good. I think we're kind 723 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 1: of bebopping back and forth because I think we're at school. 724 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 1: Then we go back to the hair situation. But I mean, 725 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: but we find out that Luke did not have a 726 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 1: good time in school, didn't like school. What's that about? 727 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,479 Speaker 1: Let's discuss. Well, I think we knew that a little 728 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,240 Speaker 1: bit when you had to go to the principal's office 729 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: because of Jess. I don't want to be here right right, 730 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 1: So what happened? What happened? I don't know because I 731 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 1: just assume you were popular. Maybe you just didn't get 732 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 1: straight a's and it was like you didn't love school. 733 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: That you were popular. I think you were popular, yeah, 734 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: and obviously, butch Days was an athlete. I think you 735 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 1: just weren't good at school, but you're so good at 736 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: math m hm h. And it seems like you went 737 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: to college because you know how to run a business, 738 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: but maybe just learned it. I don't think you. I 739 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: don't think you need to go to college when you 740 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 1: Inherit a diner or a hard worship's right, you did 741 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 1: inherit It. You grew up in it. So Wlayne admits 742 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 1: she's in love with Dave. Very cute, and then the 743 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: scenes are going back and forth. That's the trick. That's 744 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 1: why I'm kind of jumping around because you see the 745 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 1: first part of school, then we go back to the hair, 746 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: then we go back to school, and now we're in 747 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: the classroom and the bleep hits the fan. Um. I 748 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 1: think this might have been Lauren's best work, some some 749 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: of the best work I've ever seen her do. Um. 750 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 1: I was just beaming with pride watching watching her execute 751 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 1: those very quirky, little funny little lines and pauses, and 752 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just not a lot of people could 753 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: do that, and it was just wonderful to watch. I 754 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,760 Speaker 1: agree that whole thing was amazing, really wonderful to watch. 755 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 1: I loved I'm showing. I loved the cursive on the chalkboard. 756 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 1: Did you guys notice it was like beautiful Lorela Gilmore 757 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: and linked days and chalk crseft Did you guys not 758 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: see that? Seems like a Deb move to me? Verry Deb? 759 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 1: How about Deb? Just horrified, like just horrified. They're like, 760 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 1: didn't get pregnant at sixteen? Like these braddy little kids, 761 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: like can you not what the heck? Yeah? And I 762 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 1: think and if it's Deb's class, right, No, Deb's the 763 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,240 Speaker 1: p t A mom putting it together, a teacher who's 764 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: who's teaching the class? I don't know that we knew that? 765 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,720 Speaker 1: Or maybe this was more of an after school thing. Yeah, okay, 766 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 1: was that three at four o'clock? Right? Yeah? So I 767 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 1: think this was some sort of p t A. So 768 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 1: why didn't Deb stand up and stop the students? Yeah? 769 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,720 Speaker 1: They kind of blame why they try? Right exactly? Lorel 770 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: I did all she could, and she was gracious and funny, 771 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: and you know, she was polite about it, and they 772 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: just so. So Deb should have stood up and said, now, 773 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 1: now you know, listen, we're here for this and we 774 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: got to stay and she didn't and then she yeah, 775 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,839 Speaker 1: I agree completely, and then all the moms getting up 776 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 1: on Laurel like it was her fault. She's like, you 777 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,800 Speaker 1: asked me to come, and I what is Lorrela supposed 778 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 1: to do in that situation? Right? You know what I mean? 779 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,439 Speaker 1: Like she's like, she can't say I wish I didn't 780 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: get pregnant, didn't have Rory, because those are all you know, 781 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,439 Speaker 1: those kids all know Rory. So she's kind of got 782 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 1: to be like, I'm so thankful that I got Rory 783 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,839 Speaker 1: out of this very unfortunate situation, you know what I mean? 784 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 1: Like my second favorite one in the whole episode, you 785 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:41,720 Speaker 1: know what's fun to talk about late check out. She tried, 786 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 1: she tried bringing back let's go through that everything. I 787 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 1: also felt really bad because Lorela was so excited for 788 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 1: this moment because it's something that was hers, and they 789 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,359 Speaker 1: keep bringing back that she got pregnant at sixteen, which 790 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 1: just isn't really fair to her because she created a 791 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: whole life on her own and it's still biting her. 792 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: You know. That's that's small towns for you. That's like 793 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: everybody knows your business and they don't forget. Yeah, you 794 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 1: know Yeah, there was more meaning there, just as we 795 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,840 Speaker 1: talked about last week, like Dan Pelladino writing about the 796 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: Harvard family. There's significance to that, you know. So then 797 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 1: we go back to Lane, Lane's freaking out and Roy. 798 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 1: But but then would would not have been another perfect moment, 799 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 1: you know, to find a use for Christopher again comes 800 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 1: into the classroom. Plural I why haven't you called me? 801 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,720 Speaker 1: It's like Superman saves the day. Okay, So Rory goes 802 00:49:53,920 --> 00:50:00,080 Speaker 1: to the beauty shop and has the altercation, which I 803 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 1: know it's just saying, holy cow, I thought that Shane 804 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 1: held her own. Yes, I agree, but Rory delivered the 805 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 1: knockout blow. Yeah, and I assume that Shane has no context, 806 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like she's like, why is 807 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,840 Speaker 1: this chick all up in my grill? Because she doesn't 808 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: know that there's something going on between Rory and Jess, 809 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 1: So she's just like, why is this customer crazy? She 810 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 1: also acts like she's never seen Rory before, right, right? Bad? Yeah, 811 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 1: but maybe she doesn't even notice her. Maybe Shane just 812 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 1: doesn't notice her in the diner. Yeah, and she didn't 813 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,760 Speaker 1: know she is he making out the whole time, only 814 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 1: in Jesse's Eyes twenty four seven, when she's in that 815 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 1: they first kissed by the tree and Rory she never 816 00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 1: saw Rory. That's true. Now there is a debate, though, 817 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 1: I need everyone to weigh in. Is blowdy a word? 818 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 1: Because I use blowdy all the time. It appears to 819 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:20,399 Speaker 1: be in the Wictionary, which seems to be the Wikipedia 820 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 1: version of the dictionary, So it's slang. It's think it's 821 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 1: slang slang. It's not in like Websters, right, it's in 822 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,839 Speaker 1: the Urban Dictionary. I feel like that I've heard I've 823 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 1: heard that used that way before, and I definitely feel 824 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 1: blowty whenever I eat too much peanut butter. Anyone what 825 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 1: an odd expecting? And blueberry muffins at breakfast? Blueberry muffins 826 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 1: could make you feel blowty. Peanut butter is a very 827 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,799 Speaker 1: blowty food. It's like it's a known fact. Yes, And 828 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,399 Speaker 1: the older you get and you eat it, the more 829 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,479 Speaker 1: blow do you feel. Yeah? Those young kids, they need 830 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,560 Speaker 1: to back off because I'm of a certain age where 831 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try almond butter. Does almond butter make you 832 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 1: feel as blowty as peanut butter? Uh? Yeah? Okay? To 833 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 1: limit my butter just butters and generally okay. So we 834 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 1: now have the confrontation of Luke and Laurelai and the 835 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 1: p t a mom's in the lamb sweater, the deer 836 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 1: sweater with the hair. They didn't have a leg to 837 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 1: stand on. It was ridiculous. It was it was a 838 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 1: tailor maids. It was like a softball pitch to laurel 839 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: I to hit it out of the park, and she did. 840 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 1: The thing I liked so much about the scene is 841 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,839 Speaker 1: that Luke got the heck out of there. I didn't 842 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,360 Speaker 1: want to deal with anything. He's like bugged that. He 843 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 1: just went back to the dinner. I just don't know 844 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 1: how her but he didn't need him there right, which 845 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 1: I think was also sort of more to you know, 846 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 1: she doesn't need him to like save her. And I 847 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 1: think that's another thing about their relationship, like he's like, 848 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,239 Speaker 1: she's got this right. That's not even a fair fight, 849 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:22,480 Speaker 1: five against one against laurel against these puffs? Do they 850 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: do they even know what they're getting involved. She's a chainsaw. 851 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: She's going to chew these people up. Daniel, Wait, what 852 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 1: were you going to say about the I was gonna say, 853 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 1: how dare you try to confront Laurela in those sweaters 854 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 1: like it's not going to happen. What are you wearing? 855 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 1: And the hair, the hair right exactly, the fact that 856 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 1: you all use the same hair. Lousy hairdresser. If anyone 857 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: could find that lamb sweater, I will rock it. I 858 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,799 Speaker 1: will rock it so hard. Yeah, that is cool about 859 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:56,920 Speaker 1: their relationship. Yeah, she's strong. Yeah. Yeah, he doesn't have 860 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 1: to stay and he knows that, and she knows that. 861 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: It's not like she went to him later and was 862 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 1: like you left me out through with those crazy moms. 863 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,839 Speaker 1: Like she's like, no, dude, I guess right. That's an 864 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 1: indication that he understands her better than anybody. Yes, I agree, 865 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 1: so and recognizes her power. Yes, yeah, and she just 866 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 1: calls them out and she's she was, you know, professional 867 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 1: about it, I guess is the word to say. And 868 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 1: then she gives them the dig like your lousy hairdresser. 869 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: So then Jess and Luke have their the best scene. 870 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 1: I'll let you comment on it first. Interesting, Yeah, Daniel 871 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 1: entire you guys go first. A favorite scene. Honestly my 872 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,359 Speaker 1: favorite scene of the whole episode. Um, Luke comes in 873 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: pretty pretty hot, right, and Jess is just taking it 874 00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 1: and also giving back like all the comebacks in the world, 875 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 1: like when when Luke was like, I know you had 876 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 1: a girl in the closet, and he was like, yeah, 877 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,400 Speaker 1: I know, you know, like I didn't ask her to 878 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:10,959 Speaker 1: go in there, like I didn't care if you guys 879 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 1: caught us. Like literally, he was kind of like, can 880 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 1: I say badass? He was kind of a badass in 881 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 1: that scene. I was like, WHOA. Also so was Luke, 882 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:26,279 Speaker 1: because Luke really wanted totally teach Jess the right thing, 883 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 1: and ultimately I felt that Luke's lesson for Jess was 884 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:40,280 Speaker 1: all about respect, respecting yourself, respecting the girl, respecting your uncle, 885 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,840 Speaker 1: your parents, having respect for another human. And I thought 886 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 1: that was very beautiful too. Yeah, I agree. It was 887 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 1: a really touching moment. I was like, I loved I 888 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 1: loved Luke and how he was like a total fought 889 00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,880 Speaker 1: like fatherly discussion with his son. It felt like, you know, obviously, 890 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,160 Speaker 1: we know that's not it. Jess is just his nephew, 891 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,880 Speaker 1: but like literally, like that was like such a like 892 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 1: a cool moment to see between the two of them. 893 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 1: And you also saw like the sadness that Jess had, 894 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,839 Speaker 1: you know, like there's a lot of hurt in jest 895 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 1: right now. And and I think that scene just kind 896 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 1: of showed that, like Luke is like the one person 897 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 1: that like he's really got and Luke doesn't want him 898 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,399 Speaker 1: to just mess around with a girl. He wants him 899 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 1: to care about someone and that person to care about him. Right, 900 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 1: He's going to miss out on the pageantry of life, 901 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:42,360 Speaker 1: you know if he continues to hide, you know, bury 902 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 1: his feelings and just use people burious feelings. That's exactly right. Um. 903 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 1: I called that. Have you that that scene? Have your 904 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 1: new decency, Mr Jeff Jess. He just wants him, he 905 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 1: wants him to be He's trying to raise him, like 906 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 1: and influence him to be decent. Just be a decent 907 00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 1: human being. Respect people, it doesn't matter who they are. 908 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 1: Just respect them, and respect the town. And respect me, 909 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 1: and respect Rory, and respect respect yourself. Respect yourself. But 910 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:15,280 Speaker 1: Jess was right calling Luke out, saying, you haven't told 911 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,440 Speaker 1: Laurela how you feel. And she can convince you to 912 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 1: do anything and you do it like a puppy, but 913 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,480 Speaker 1: you don't say how you feel. That's a cheap shot, 914 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 1: true though, that's not true, but it's different. It's a 915 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 1: different context. I mean we're talking about you know, he's 916 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 1: he's a fly by night character, a transit transit transitory 917 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 1: character who's coming in and out of town, who knows 918 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,960 Speaker 1: how long he's going to stay. He doesn't have any responsibilities, 919 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 1: he has no roots in that town. It's easy for 920 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 1: him to say something like that. I thought it was cheap. 921 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 1: I thought they were all cheap shots because because Luke 922 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 1: Luke Luke has roots in that town, He's got a 923 00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 1: certain respect in that town. Always respects Lorelai right, and 924 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,720 Speaker 1: that's the core of it. That's why he respects himself right, 925 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 1: and he's right, and he's protective of himself. It's like, 926 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go out on a limb unless 927 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure, because the consequences could be dire for his business, 928 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,480 Speaker 1: for him personally, for Lorela, for Rory. So he's doing 929 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 1: the right thing. Examples and oranges. Although there is some 930 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,440 Speaker 1: truth to Jess calling him out, like why don't you 931 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 1: say how you feel? Like the theme of season three 932 00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 1: is don't tell the people that you need to tell 933 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 1: how you feel, you know, like Rory isn't telling Jazz, 934 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 1: Jess isn't telling Rory, Luca isn't telling Lorelai and vice versa. 935 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:51,560 Speaker 1: It's just a lot of lost communication. But Luke is 936 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 1: not that guy. At least he's not that that guy yet. 937 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 1: Where he's sitting around talking about his feelings or or 938 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 1: spilling his guts to somebody, it's not him. It's he 939 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 1: understands the value of long term, and he understands the 940 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:13,280 Speaker 1: value of friendship right, and he understands community. I think 941 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,480 Speaker 1: that's why he's beloved. He does understand all those things, 942 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 1: and he's not willing to, in a selfish way, risk 943 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 1: all of that, plus his reputation and maybe the reputation 944 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 1: of somebody else or their heart by making a move 945 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 1: on a girl that he's really good friends with, whose 946 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 1: daughter is in a precarious position because she doesn't need 947 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 1: to be disrupted at this point in her life. She 948 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 1: needs to focus and study, and her mother doesn't need 949 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:47,680 Speaker 1: to be involved in some you know, highly charged relationship, 950 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,640 Speaker 1: which which it would be right because of the chemistry, 951 00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 1: it would be explosive, you know. I hope I'm not 952 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 1: speaking out of turn, but um, you know, let Rory 953 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,840 Speaker 1: get to college and then make maybe he makes a move, 954 01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like, don't disrupt. I 955 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 1: see where you're coming from with that. I think we 956 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 1: just need to because that's how I played it. Yeah, 957 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,760 Speaker 1: that's how I that's how I interpreted Like, your role 958 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:18,600 Speaker 1: here is to be a steady influence on Rory's life 959 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:23,320 Speaker 1: and also Laurela because she needs it too. Yeah. I 960 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:27,120 Speaker 1: think that as far as the conversation with Jess goes, 961 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:33,840 Speaker 1: Luke was not being so Rory wasn't entering his mind 962 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,919 Speaker 1: as much as he's saying, you shouldn't hide a girl 963 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 1: in the closet, and you need to have respect for 964 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 1: her and respect for yourself and and respect for what 965 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 1: I want, which is not having a girl in here 966 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 1: at all or in the closet. But also if you 967 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,080 Speaker 1: like a girl, then like that girl, but don't use 968 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 1: a girl. Mm hmm. It was a good father moment, 969 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 1: basic values. Yeah, if you want my respect, then you 970 01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 1: should respect others. Yes, yes, it's like this is your life. 971 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 1: You're throwing it away, you know, one person at a time, right, 972 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 1: Because he was sort of like, I didn't make a 973 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,480 Speaker 1: good and there you didn't care about me either, and 974 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 1: Jess is sort of liked all good and Luke's whole 975 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,280 Speaker 1: point is No, that's not all good. Like I want 976 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 1: you with someone you care about, that cares about you. 977 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:23,480 Speaker 1: I don't. You and Shane are just like being like 978 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 1: disrespectful almost like to everybody. Listen, Um, Jess is in 979 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,760 Speaker 1: a very tough spot. He is not going to come 980 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,200 Speaker 1: out of that. You know, when you get rejected by 981 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:44,360 Speaker 1: two parents. Now what you know, who's who's the dad? Right? 982 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 1: Who's his dad? You? No? But I mean who's his 983 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 1: biological father? I don't know. We do know, we do know, 984 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 1: we don't know yet. He got it's rob Hesti's because 985 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 1: he goes right, but we don't know that yet. Okay, 986 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,600 Speaker 1: so then his mom can't handle him. I man, this 987 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:09,640 Speaker 1: kid is in such deep pain. He's really confused. He 988 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:14,680 Speaker 1: does not when he's heartbroken the girl he likes. He's 989 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 1: completely out of control. And yes, he's highly vulnerable. He 990 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,320 Speaker 1: doesn't know why he's doing these things. These things are 991 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,800 Speaker 1: just happening. There's just band aids. Shane is a total 992 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,360 Speaker 1: band aid. It makes him like feel better in the moment. 993 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:33,560 Speaker 1: He's going to sabotage his entire life. Um, because of 994 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 1: how he because of this rejection, this parental rejection, and 995 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,760 Speaker 1: Luke has a you know, he's he may have bitten 996 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 1: off more than he can chew here, but he I 997 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:48,160 Speaker 1: think he understands what Jess is going through. It just 998 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 1: doesn't want to play into it. Yes, I think I 999 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 1: think he does understand how crucial this is. And that's 1000 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,440 Speaker 1: why I think that scene was so powerful. Yeah, and 1001 01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:01,880 Speaker 1: you know, that's the biggest scene of the episode. Is 1002 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 1: typically the scene before the last scene. I've noticed that 1003 01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 1: repeatedly in Gilmore Girls, Like this is the dramatic scene, 1004 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 1: this is the crescendo, whatever we call it. But then 1005 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:17,120 Speaker 1: we still have that moment where Lane and Roy are 1006 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,120 Speaker 1: walking and Lane has the cute thirteen sweatshirt which really 1007 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,919 Speaker 1: made me think of Taylor Swift. But uh, and Laura 1008 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,080 Speaker 1: Lai walks up and notices the black hair. LAURAA starts 1009 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 1: to tell her about the p t A Moms and 1010 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,000 Speaker 1: then it kind of fades out right. Why did they 1011 01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 1: want to go to Alic's pancake oil? All about that 1012 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,920 Speaker 1: was a little weird. Maybe it's because Laura la I 1013 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 1: didn't want her daughter to see Jess kissing Jane again. 1014 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:53,080 Speaker 1: She's protecting her daughter from that. I don't know, because 1015 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,960 Speaker 1: she doesn't know about all she does. She's sitting there right, 1016 01:03:56,040 --> 01:04:00,560 Speaker 1: and she doesn't. She's sitting there right, Laura. La doesn't 1017 01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,680 Speaker 1: know that Rory had a confrontation, but she sees that 1018 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 1: Jess is kissing this girl. She knows that she she 1019 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,520 Speaker 1: senses there's something between those two. Obviously, she doesn't want 1020 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:13,840 Speaker 1: it to happen. She doesn't like Okay, now that you're 1021 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 1: saying it. Obviously she saw Rory kind of when they 1022 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:22,600 Speaker 1: were kissing in the diner, and she knows that Shane 1023 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:26,600 Speaker 1: was in the closet, so could be right. I don't 1024 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,640 Speaker 1: think it had anything to no, no, no, but I 1025 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,640 Speaker 1: think Luke's Diner has become a little toxic for Rory. 1026 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,760 Speaker 1: And let's go to als pancake roll and give my 1027 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:39,040 Speaker 1: daughter a break, you know. Interesting being a good mom, right, 1028 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:43,480 Speaker 1: being a good mom? There. Um, So that pretty much 1029 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 1: wraps it up. I look, this is back to back 1030 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:50,120 Speaker 1: Daniel Palladino written episodes, and I just find them. I 1031 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 1: find his writing to be so pleasant, and I just 1032 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,480 Speaker 1: really think he captures the spirit of what the show 1033 01:04:56,200 --> 01:05:00,960 Speaker 1: is at its best, lighthearted, fun, high paced and uh 1034 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,280 Speaker 1: pointing at the end. And I just love how he 1035 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:09,000 Speaker 1: sets everything up, you know, I agree, and he writes 1036 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:16,280 Speaker 1: the funniest Yes, you know, isn't it interesting? It's so interesting? 1037 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:21,840 Speaker 1: This this this Amy and Dan Palladino. Right, this, this couple, 1038 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,800 Speaker 1: this writing couple. Here's the lead of their most successful 1039 01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,680 Speaker 1: show to date at that time, a girl who's a 1040 01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 1: stand up comedian. You put her in this situation, right, 1041 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,680 Speaker 1: She's basically a stand up comic. And then they make 1042 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,440 Speaker 1: another show, Miselle, where the woman's a stand up comedian. 1043 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,040 Speaker 1: So they they're writing to their strengths. They know what 1044 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 1: they're doing well, and how interesting. They've been married for 1045 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,880 Speaker 1: so long and they've worked together and obviously it's going 1046 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:53,240 Speaker 1: well and they're both brilliant writers, and uh yeah, good 1047 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,360 Speaker 1: for them, Good for them. But I love, love, love 1048 01:05:56,440 --> 01:06:00,360 Speaker 1: the Dan Palladino episodes. They're filled with musical references, they're 1049 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:05,160 Speaker 1: filled with the spirit. They're filled with rebellious characters fighting 1050 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:09,480 Speaker 1: back in humorous ways and there it's just just wonderful stuff. 1051 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,760 Speaker 1: What was what was your favorite lines? What was everybody's? 1052 01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,480 Speaker 1: Daniel Tara stop, I could go, So I'm going to 1053 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,000 Speaker 1: give it to my girl Lane, And Lane says, I'll 1054 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,840 Speaker 1: fix Bryan's deviated septum. I'll shove one of my sticks 1055 01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:29,280 Speaker 1: up his nose because I literally just kept laughing after 1056 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,040 Speaker 1: she was holding her little drumsticks. That was just like, 1057 01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:36,400 Speaker 1: oh my god. UM. My favorite was also from Lane 1058 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,480 Speaker 1: this episode, and it's when Rory's during her hair and 1059 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,320 Speaker 1: she says, of course I don't exactly have what you 1060 01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,160 Speaker 1: and Dean have because you love Dean and Dean loves you. 1061 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,000 Speaker 1: In my situation, I love Dave and Dave thinks that 1062 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:54,080 Speaker 1: I have a decent sense of rhythm. I really like 1063 01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,480 Speaker 1: laurelized line. Uh once she flipped the card and tried 1064 01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:10,160 Speaker 1: to change stuffing. Now let's talk about late check out. Yeah, 1065 01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:14,040 Speaker 1: and I gotta give it to my boy Yannick Trusdale. 1066 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:20,120 Speaker 1: That entire scene was genius. That was my favorite scene, 1067 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,480 Speaker 1: but the second favorite, Laurela in the classroom was my 1068 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 1: favorite scene. I stay strong on This might have been 1069 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:30,160 Speaker 1: one of my favorite fashion episodes too, Lanes fashion everything. 1070 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:34,160 Speaker 1: I kind of glazed over it. But Scott Luke really 1071 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,400 Speaker 1: dressed up and pulled himself together this episode with the 1072 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:41,280 Speaker 1: button down and the hair. I was like, Okay, what 1073 01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:48,600 Speaker 1: can I Luke is all schnazzy today. Oh my god, wait, 1074 01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:53,400 Speaker 1: what's next week? What is next week. We've got eight 1075 01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:57,280 Speaker 1: o'clock at the Oasis, Episode five, Season three, eight o'clock 1076 01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:03,960 Speaker 1: at the Oasis. So anyway, Uh, thank you everybody. That 1077 01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:09,000 Speaker 1: was a fun discussion. I really enjoyed the episode. Um, 1078 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:15,920 Speaker 1: and I thought we had some pretty interesting insights. Yeah, no, no, no, 1079 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm come on, that's mine. Anyway, thanks guys, and again, 1080 01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,640 Speaker 1: best fans on the planet. I appreciate the comments. Keep 1081 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:30,200 Speaker 1: them coming. Uh and uh, and that's gonna be it 1082 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,679 Speaker 1: for us. We'll see you next time. 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