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Speaker 1: as the Celtics keep the series alive. Jason Tatum as

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Speaker 1: a huge second half, finished with thirty four one sixteen

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Speaker 1: to ninety nine Boston wins. So the Miami story has

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Speaker 1: been a great story. It's a story of Jimmy Butler,

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Speaker 1: of Eric Spolstro's coaching, and it's a story of effort

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Speaker 1: and toughness and undrafted players playing for a contract. It's inspiring,

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Speaker 1: it's fun, but they're not a good enough team in

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Speaker 1: terms of talent to lack intensity and take the night

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Speaker 1: Denver Nuggets. The Denver Nuggets can take a half off

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Speaker 1: and win. That's the reality. We don't have a lot

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Speaker 1: of great teams in the NBA, right. Dynasties get about

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Speaker 1: one a decade and then it's good teams that stay healthy,

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Speaker 1: have a good coach, you know, Lakers in the bubble,

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Speaker 1: It all kind of it all kind of hits. So

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Speaker 1: Miami's not a team that can play half assed defense,

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Speaker 1: and they weren't great tonight and win a basketball game.

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Speaker 1: They are winning this game on coaching, Butler and effort

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Speaker 1: and a great example tonight, the Celtics had eight block shots.

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Speaker 1: That's effort. They shot like fifty percent, they got more

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Speaker 1: So Miami, listen. It's it's really really hard. That's why

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Speaker 1: I think Denver is more talented than people are giving

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Speaker 1: in their prime is Austin Reeves. It's pretty low ceiling prime.

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Speaker 1: Boston's got more talent in Miami, and they've been playing

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Speaker 1: together for like six years. And that's an interesting thing.

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Speaker 1: There was a story Kevin O'Connor with the Ringer, had

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Speaker 1: the people inside that locker room said the Celtics are

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Speaker 1: tired of faking like they like each other. And here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. Had they won the championship last year, they'd

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Speaker 1: together for six years with disappointment at the end of

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Speaker 1: all those seasons in a city like Boston. So I

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Speaker 1: grew up in the Pacific Northwest, we didn't have sports

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Speaker 1: moved in my mid forties, I move to the Northeast.

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Speaker 1: I live in West Hartford, Connecticut, beautiful small town in America.

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Speaker 1: And it's about, you know, a couple hours to Boston,

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Speaker 1: went to Boston, I would watch nessen NESN. That's their ESPN, right,

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Speaker 1: it's this regional network, and I would watch talk radio

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Speaker 1: and the anger and the cynicism. And this is when

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Speaker 1: provincial nature of that area where you know, Boston's one

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Speaker 1: it's not a provincial city. You know. New York is

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Speaker 1: eating itself alive. You're on your fourth coach, and this

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Speaker 1: notice late in the game there was a huddle for

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Speaker 1: coach's chair, Joe Mozilla's chair. We started directing the team.

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Speaker 1: It's like this team. The Celtics took it upon themselves

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Speaker 1: adjustment at half. The team played up tempo, more good looks,

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Speaker 1: But Boston's got more good players here, and they'd been

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Speaker 1: in Boston's becoming the most talented Boston team that's never

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Speaker 1: nobody was talking about this team not liking each other

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Speaker 1: a year ago. We know that Jalen Brown is not

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Speaker 1: But by and large, Tatum is easy to get along

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Speaker 1: So I think the Boston players took it upon themselves

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Speaker 1: and they played with great intensity. It was a clean game.

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Speaker 1: Tatum was great in the second half. But this isn't

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Speaker 1: have inferior talent. Now, Miami's got a better coach. Miami

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Speaker 1: it's interesting the initial reaction by friends I have in

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Speaker 1: least loved great Laker ever. I don't know, because Kareem

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Speaker 1: the intellect he's aloof. He's distant, he's prickly. It's never

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Speaker 1: got the coaching opportunity he wanted to. Very smart man.

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Speaker 1: But my gut tells me Lebron should retire, but probably won't.

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