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Speaker 1: Thank you sir. How are you doing? First of all,

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Speaker 1: most people would not know that I'm a former engineer.

427
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Speaker 1: So I actually started my career twenty five years ago

428
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Speaker 1: as a computer programmer and a consultant coming in systems integration.

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Speaker 1: If some folks may remember the big Arthur Anderson Company

430
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Speaker 1: UM and I used to work there and and so

431
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Speaker 1: the did. The world of digital that we live in

432
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Speaker 1: now makes so much sense for me because my technical

433
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Speaker 1: training and background as an engineer was a perfect mix

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Speaker 1: with my U NBA and marketing and now it shows

435
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Speaker 1: up in that all of the work that we do

436
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Speaker 1: essentially sits you know, on this in this digital world.

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Speaker 1: So makes a lot of sense for me. No. I

438
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Speaker 1: had many guests on the show. One of the recent

439
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Speaker 1: guests I hand on the show was with a a

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Speaker 1: ARP that was one of the platforms that you guys

441
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Speaker 1: work with as far as marketing. When a when a

442
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Speaker 1: brand like that comes to you, what are some of

443
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Speaker 1: the steps or the pitch of the platforms and research

444
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Speaker 1: says you have to put together so we can move

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Speaker 1: forward in a positive direction. The brand is a r P.

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Speaker 1: And I also was so excited about it. I ranted

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Speaker 1: on my own social media platform as well, Oh I

448
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Speaker 1: love it. Well, No, I'm so glad, you asked, because

449
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Speaker 1: in terms of like the type of work we do,

450
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Speaker 1: how do we even kick that off? So a RP

451
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Speaker 1: came to us with another organization called AD Council, And

452
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Speaker 1: for those who don't know, AD Council is one of

453
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Speaker 1: those organizations that does a lot of work, a lot

454
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Speaker 1: of p s a s. They stand for things that

455
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Speaker 1: really have positive impact in the community. So they came

456
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Speaker 1: to us and they said, look, black women don't invest

457
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Speaker 1: in retirement the way other people do. And you and

458
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Speaker 1: I know Rashan like in our community. Do you remember

459
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Speaker 1: when Chris Rock said there's rich and then is wealthy.

460
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Speaker 1: But we haven't had the opportunity to amass wealth in

461
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Speaker 1: our community just given our history. So what's a RP there?

462
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Speaker 1: They came and they said they want to help create

463
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Speaker 1: room for more Black women to invest in retirement, to

464
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Speaker 1: invest in their future and their legacy that they leave

465
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Speaker 1: for their families. And so they asked us to help

466
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Speaker 1: them understand what's important to black women. What is it

467
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Speaker 1: that's preventing black women from investing in retirement when they

468
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Speaker 1: have they have jobs, they have income, they have four

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Speaker 1: one K plans, And so that was part of the understanding.

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Speaker 1: The first thing that we do is we sit with them.

471
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Speaker 1: We look at research. A lot of companies invest in data.

472
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Speaker 1: We hear all this stuff about research, like you know

473
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Speaker 1: what people do and how they behave, but you don't

474
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Speaker 1: know why and so we helped them understand like the

475
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Speaker 1: history of why black women take care of everybody else

476
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Speaker 1: but don't necessarily take care of themselves, and why we

477
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Speaker 1: feel it's selfish. You know, really interesting. It's really interesting

478
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Speaker 1: because any advertiser, they always talk about the female controls

479
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Speaker 1: the purse of the house, of the buying powers by

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Speaker 1: the female. You know, when the advertisers want to know, Okay,

481
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Speaker 1: women watching the show, women listening to the show, women

482
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Speaker 1: of the brand, even professional football while you think they

483
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Speaker 1: have female sideline reporters now because they're trying to get

484
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Speaker 1: women to watch football even though everybody's watching it. They

485
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Speaker 1: want more women because so and so when you when

486
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Speaker 1: you say something like women, but know when they have

487
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Speaker 1: all this power, listening power, buying power, you ain't power,

488
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Speaker 1: participation power. When it calls the retirement, the women don't

489
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Speaker 1: take care of themselves because, like you said, they're spending

490
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Speaker 1: money on everybody else, take care of everybody else, branding

491
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Speaker 1: everybody else, but not branding themselves through retirement. That's pretty amazing.

492
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Speaker 1: That's so we were able to help create a campaign

493
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Speaker 1: it encourages black women to invest in themselves. One last request,

494
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Speaker 1: please send me something I can post about the Tamela

495
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Speaker 1: Man campaign because she's a wonderful person. Again, the She

496
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Speaker 1: Heroes campaign I supported. I have six sisters. I supported

497
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Speaker 1: it on my my, my personal as well as my

498
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Speaker 1: money making conversation platform. Again, Kelly, long term friend, way

499
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Speaker 1: back to the BT days. So I will always support

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Speaker 1: any of her brands, but more important to getting to

501
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Speaker 1: know you and your British journey and your Nigerian journey journey,

502
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Speaker 1: and and your and just being you or Lena and

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Speaker 1: Wo Blanche. I can't help this see me, but rich Ton,

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Speaker 1: you make it easy. Thank you for everything that you do.

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Speaker 1: I love money, like making conversations about She really enjoyed

506
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Speaker 1: listening um to so many of your podcasts. You have

507
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Speaker 1: fantastic interviews and you really are inspiring us for Thank

508
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Speaker 1: you for being used. Appreciate you, but get that get

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Speaker 1: that man to me. We talked soon. I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: I will do I'll make it happen my next guest.

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Speaker 1: It's the founder of the real estate brokerage firm Agents

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Speaker 1: of l A, a luxury real estate group is a

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Speaker 1: real estate agent found of Agents of l a real

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Speaker 1: estate broker's firm. Producer entrepreneur and TV personality. I like

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Speaker 1: that point. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations time, Savy Man.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me on your show. And uh,

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Speaker 1: I just listened to the whole part. And I need

518
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Speaker 1: to step my game up on my own podcast because

519
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Speaker 1: you're killing it. I mean, I feel like I just

520
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Speaker 1: got schooled, you know. So it is it isn't honor

521
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Speaker 1: to be on your show, and um ma'am, I need

522
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Speaker 1: you as my mentor. Actually at this point, man, please

523
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Speaker 1: but thank you for that compliment. I will be your mentor.

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Speaker 1: That's why this show because a lot of people have

525
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Speaker 1: asked me over the years, you know, as an individual.

526
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Speaker 1: And so I started money Making Conversation in twenty seventeen.

527
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Speaker 1: I was doing it on my Facebook page. I was

528
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Speaker 1: doing it on Mondays and people will responding and I

529
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Speaker 1: was only going to give an hour, and you know,

530
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Speaker 1: when people respond, they want you to respond back. And

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Speaker 1: so I was sitting there for three hours. And once

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Speaker 1: I stopped managing Steve Harvey, I started to be able

533
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Speaker 1: to talk and start considering what I wanted my brand

534
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Speaker 1: to beat, and it was about providing information and mentorship.

535
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Speaker 1: And so that that that intro did you got know

536
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Speaker 1: that intro has been written many many years for many celebrities,

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Speaker 1: and I always feel that you are you are a

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Speaker 1: blessing to be on my show. You're providing information to

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Speaker 1: the people who listened to my show, and I want

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Speaker 1: to continue this relationship. Let you know that coming on

541
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Speaker 1: my show, I gotta do my homework. Tie, So that's

542
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Speaker 1: all that. I just did my homework, brother, And you're

543
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Speaker 1: special man. Man. You know, it's like I just feel

544
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Speaker 1: like there's so much about you, and you know, I'm

545
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Speaker 1: doing my research about you. You know, literally, as I'm

546
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Speaker 1: sitting here, I'm really impressed. You know, you're Steve Harvey's

547
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Speaker 1: a manager, right or ex manager, and you've been with

548
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Speaker 1: him and he had a radio show. Were you part

549
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Speaker 1: of that? Well? I created radio show. We created it

550
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Speaker 1: in two thousand and uh in the l A. I

551
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Speaker 1: negotiated the largest local UH radio personality deal in the

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Speaker 1: country uh WE Radio one at the time, and then

553
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Speaker 1: in two thousand and five we would UH. I always

554
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Speaker 1: felt he was that that show should be Nashal. It

555
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Speaker 1: always felt that way. In two thousand and five, we

556
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: moved to New York City and syndicated the show nationally

557
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Speaker 1: and the rest is history. You know three three number

558
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Speaker 1: one bestsellers that turned into a movie. Or think like

559
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Speaker 1: a man and think like a man. Think like a

560
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Speaker 1: man too. Now manage Stephen A. Smith. He's one of

561
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Speaker 1: my clients. Uh, the most popular, uh sports media person

562
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Speaker 1: in the world right there, Steven D. Smith. So I

563
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Speaker 1: think what I do is not accidental, tie, And I

564
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Speaker 1: think I saw something about an emmy. Yeah, I have

565
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Speaker 1: two emmis, uh, two emmis for television and uh and

566
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Speaker 1: so you know, I look at my life and uh

567
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Speaker 1: you know my book will be out in January one

568
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Speaker 1: and it's about not accepting the average. And uh, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't come from a family. Nobody rescued my family

570
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Speaker 1: and moved into a better neighborhood. Nobody told me that

571
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Speaker 1: that if I went to school that I would one

572
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Speaker 1: day become uh successful. It was just through hard work time.

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Speaker 1: And now I tried to continue to say that on

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Speaker 1: this show and everybody that meet that I am you

575
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: through hard work, through proper planning, and I will continue

576
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: to be you and you can be me. Now well

577
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: I separate the liners through athletics and physicality that I

578
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: will not donk like Lebrod. I will not shoot it

579
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Speaker 1: like Steph Curry. I will not throw the ball like

580
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. But I know I can I can think

581
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Speaker 1: with them, I can compete with them mentally. And so

582
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Speaker 1: that's the world that a majority of our people out

583
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Speaker 1: there can compete in. And so when I bring individuals

584
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Speaker 1: on the show, I just want you to share your story,

585
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: your ups and downs, because we all have downs and

586
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: I don't uh. And sometimes when you look at Hollywood,

587
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Speaker 1: all you see is the magic side of a story,

588
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Speaker 1: you know, and you can tell a great story in

589
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Speaker 1: thirty minutes or twenty two minutes if it's a commercial

590
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Speaker 1: TV or an hour. Go see a movie in three hours,

591
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Speaker 1: and they go from the beginning, middle, and end. But

592
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Speaker 1: life is not like that. It's a journey, and my

593
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: life is still part of that process. I did a

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Speaker 1: I did a video or with Tom Bill You and

595
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Speaker 1: it went viral, things like and m. One of the

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Speaker 1: things that I talked about in their video was about

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Speaker 1: not restricting one's growth through their age, and it hit

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Speaker 1: home with a lot of people because I've noticed that

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Speaker 1: when people hit a certain age, especially in their fifties,

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Speaker 1: they kind of they're kind of in a race to

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Speaker 1: the retirement line, and and and the feeling that something's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. And I looked at it, and I looked

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Speaker 1: up what you would get when you retired. Despite all

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Speaker 1: the money I've made in my life, if I retired

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Speaker 1: at the age of sixt or six, the check I

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Speaker 1: would give between eight hundred dollars more. Wow, all them all,

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Speaker 1: and I made some money. Now time I made some money,

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Speaker 1: that's the check I would get, you know. So, so

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what are people racing two

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Speaker 1: to retire if that's your pot of goal. And so

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Speaker 1: if that's your pot of goal, because you've been misinformed

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Speaker 1: and you've been misled by some some ill informed level

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Speaker 1: of propaganda people out there talking about they got they got,

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Speaker 1: somebody's gonna take care of them, and that's not true.

615
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Speaker 1: And so my whole part and purpose of this show

616
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: is to provide that that negative education so you can

617
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Speaker 1: realize that if fifty you can still reach your dreams

618
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Speaker 1: at sixty, you can reach reach your dream at seventy.

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Speaker 1: Don't stop life. Life provides opportunities. So that's my tone,

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Speaker 1: that's that's the purpose of why I do money making conversations.

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Speaker 1: And when I bring an individual like you who is

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Speaker 1: different from me, who speaks different from me, who lives

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Speaker 1: a different walk of life, but who share similar stories

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Speaker 1: of success, similar stories of setbacks. And I just want

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Speaker 1: to let people know who come on, who listens to

626
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Speaker 1: the show, that can be you. Your success story can

627
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Speaker 1: be motivation as long as you realize how hard this

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Speaker 1: young man is working, how committed to proper planning this

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Speaker 1: young man has. That's the story that I want to

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Speaker 1: be told on this show, and people deliver it on

631
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Speaker 1: the regular Brasis. And that's why when we sit around

632
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Speaker 1: and I look at the various people who can come

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Speaker 1: on my show, I can't keep telling the same story.

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Speaker 1: You know. You know what, I'll jump in here because

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Speaker 1: I think the most important thing for any viewer or

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Speaker 1: listener out there is to have passion and motivation, get

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Speaker 1: up with the right tone. And you know, for myself personally,

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Speaker 1: you know, I wake up every morning early and I

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Speaker 1: get my thoughts collected and U I get my goals

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Speaker 1: planned out, you know, every day, every week, every month,

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Speaker 1: every year. You know, it's not just a thought, it's

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Speaker 1: a dream and a dream that I'm going to make reality.

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Speaker 1: And um, you know, I think anybody has the chance

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Speaker 1: to to to meet their goals as long as they

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Speaker 1: move in the right direction. And you know, it's set

646
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Speaker 1: expectations too, you know. For myself, you know it's it's

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm success um goal oriented. You know, it's not

648
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Speaker 1: really about the money. It's really about the passion and

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Speaker 1: what really drives me. And I think anybody that wants

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Speaker 1: to do anything with their life, they have to find

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Speaker 1: the right passion and that's where they're going to meet success.

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Speaker 1: It's really what you're saying that I always tell people's

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Speaker 1: doubt about the money, it's abo the opportunity. You you

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Speaker 1: push the opportunity and planned opportunity and guess what you

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Speaker 1: make money. And so that is what you just said.

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Speaker 1: It is what I believe in, and that's why I

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Speaker 1: said that when I wanted you to. I just want

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Speaker 1: to let everybody know that. You know, I get up

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Speaker 1: at four fifteen every day. That's a step on Saturday

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Speaker 1: and Sunday, and so i'm early because I do collect

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Speaker 1: my thoughts. People said, what are you doing. I said, well,

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Speaker 1: I get up. You know, I'm not happy to get up.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just collecting my thoughts and I've learned that

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Speaker 1: getting up at four o'clock four fifteen and getting up

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Speaker 1: at six changes the whole approach to my day. So

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Speaker 1: you're saying a lot of things that I've been preaching

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Speaker 1: on this podcast and the syndicated radio network for the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years, and we've never met. Yep, that's

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Speaker 1: it's weird. But you know what those a lot of

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Speaker 1: people have this mindset where they think that that they'll

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Speaker 1: do it in the future. People don't have the mindset

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Speaker 1: that their life's really running out. You know, life is

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Speaker 1: a gift and every day you wake up, that's your gift.

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Speaker 1: So use it to the fullest extent. You know. Even

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Speaker 1: with this conversation that we're having, you know, it's we're

676
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Speaker 1: gonna take some people out there what it takes to

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Speaker 1: actually success. You know, I woke up early this morning,

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Speaker 1: just like you went to the gym. I'm currently on

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Speaker 1: a walk right now because I want to put that

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Speaker 1: out in my my goal sheet. So as we're we're talking,

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Speaker 1: I'm walking. You know, I'm burning some calories right because

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Speaker 1: that's my goals. And um, you know, people people don't

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Speaker 1: really have the mentality they think, you know, I'll just

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Speaker 1: do it tomorrow or I'll do it the next day. No,

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Speaker 1: the time is right now, don't wait. You know, if

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Speaker 1: you have something that you want to do, put it,

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Speaker 1: put it on paper, figure out how long it's gonna take,

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Speaker 1: and then you know, check around, find out who's doing

689
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Speaker 1: what you're doing. Do the research, just like what you've done.

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Speaker 1: You know you've done your research. I'm embarrassed that I

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Speaker 1: haven't done all my research. I called my publicist this

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Speaker 1: morning and I said, tell me about Rashan, And then

693
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Speaker 1: I started looking at you, looking you up, and then

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Speaker 1: you start telling me about me. I'm like, dang, okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, I gotta get on my A game. I

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Speaker 1: gotta get on my A game to be like you.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I'm I'm, you know, ecstatic that we're

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Speaker 1: having this conversation because I think that, you know, I'll

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Speaker 1: learn some game for you, you'll learn something from me

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Speaker 1: absolute And you know, I think that I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: where you want to go with everything, but this is

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Speaker 1: your show. Well, first of all, you're going right where

703
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Speaker 1: I want you to go. You have a story to tale.

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Speaker 1: I can tell the motivational and information you've You've dropped

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Speaker 1: some nuggets on this show. And those are the type

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Speaker 1: of nuggets that I want all my guests to drop.

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Speaker 1: But you on Fire to Date, my friend, uh, you

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Speaker 1: host and created a podcast All Tied Up. Tell us

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Speaker 1: about it and the why that you created them. A

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Speaker 1: lot of popular names on it that I'm from there with.

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Speaker 1: Talk to us about All Tied Up. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: in the beginning, um, the podcast was well, it seemed

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Speaker 1: like the right thing to do because I have the

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Speaker 1: relationships with a ton of celebrities and a lot of

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Speaker 1: people are so scared to ask questions. But they don't

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Speaker 1: realize that these celebrities are just like me and you

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Speaker 1: without being a celebrity. They're just normal people that have

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Speaker 1: a story. And I was telling my publicist this morning

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Speaker 1: know that reaches out to me just to see how

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Speaker 1: I'm doing. No, no, no expectations, no nothing. But people

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Speaker 1: don't know her stories about having sickle cell and the

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Speaker 1: business of you know, where she where she came from.

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Speaker 1: And this is what the podcast is really about. It's

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Speaker 1: about celebrities and significant and and and and big personality

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Speaker 1: people to talk about their business, where they came, where

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Speaker 1: they came from, who they are where they're going, and

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Speaker 1: asking the questions you know that are are you know

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Speaker 1: that that are that are going in through your brain

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Speaker 1: and my brain at the same time, and ask him

731
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Speaker 1: because maybe you're you don't want to ask him, you

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Speaker 1: don't want to offend them. Just ask him a question.

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Speaker 1: You know. I had teabots crying on my TV show.

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Speaker 1: I had a guy that you know, his name's Mike.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's caveat Gold, you know, and he owns

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Speaker 1: one of the biggest Canada's companies, and he's crying on

737
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Speaker 1: the show talking about, you know, how he can't give

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Speaker 1: certain product away because it's illegal now, and how he

739
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Speaker 1: can't help cancer victim. I mean, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: really good, you know, conversation that we have that people

741
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: need to know. And I think that, you know, it's

742
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Speaker 1: just um, it's it's it's a different type of podcast

743
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: because first off, I had no idea what I was doing,

744
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: but I jumped into it. You know, I was so scared,

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Speaker 1: you know, talking in front of the mike and didn't

746
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Speaker 1: know what I was doing and you know how I

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Speaker 1: was gonna sound. And but the thing about it is

748
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Speaker 1: I did it, and I think that people are going

749
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Speaker 1: to get a lot of good insight information that I'm

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Speaker 1: just a normal person just like them. You know, I

751
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Speaker 1: have the same kind of fears that they have. I'm

752
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Speaker 1: just living my life because I have this dream that

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00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: one day I'm gonna become somebody and discover myself and

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Speaker 1: people will follow that journey with me. Man, I want

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Speaker 1: to thank you for coming on my show. I appreciate you.

756
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: I really do, because you know, this is probably the

757
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: most honest show I've had, because you as you as

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00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: at the very beginning, you say, Man, I'm finding out

759
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Speaker 1: about you as we speak, and that was just you know,

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Speaker 1: which is really cool, you know, because of a lot

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Speaker 1: because a lot of things in life about what I've

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Speaker 1: accomplished I pushed aside and I just moved forward. Because

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Speaker 1: I'm not a guy who keeps looking at my success.

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Speaker 1: I want to know what the opportunity to present for

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Speaker 1: me and how I can change the future because I'm

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Speaker 1: about I'm about changing the future. And if you come

767
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Speaker 1: in town next week, man, please just drop me a call.

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Speaker 1: I set aside some time just to say hi, quick snack,

769
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Speaker 1: quick hug, because I want you to be a part

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Speaker 1: of my life. My brother, I really do, just as

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Speaker 1: a just as a person that that we'll make that

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Speaker 1: call to your day. How you doing, brother, Because I

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Speaker 1: have a phrase I'm telling everybody in this is my phrase,

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Speaker 1: lead with your gifts in that's my statement, that's my mantra.

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Speaker 1: And I'm telling everybody believe in yourself and leave you

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Speaker 1: with it. Don't let nobody question it, and you will

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Speaker 1: be successful if you have the work ethic in the plan.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your brother, and uh, we're gonna talk soon.

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Speaker 1: But tell you people to contact my people so we

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Speaker 1: can hook up next week. Okay, thank you, Tie, thank

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Speaker 1: you for having me. I appreciate you. Man. Stay strong,

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Speaker 1: keep walking, man, More calories, more fun. Hi, this is

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Speaker 1: Rushan McDonald, the host of Money Making Conversation. You say

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Speaker 1: TV series Black Ink Crew Chicago in its sixth season.

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Speaker 1: Don Brunfield, a piercer and manager of nine Mag in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: is focused on growing his acting career, but his wife

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Speaker 1: Tattoo Artists at nine mag is making his mental health,

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Speaker 1: very very talented hip hop artist and he helps the

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Speaker 1: owner of nine Mag, Ryan deal with his personal struggles

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Speaker 1: along the way. This season, Black in Crewe Chicago airs

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Speaker 1: every Wednesday, eight Eastern seventh Central. Please welcome to money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversation. The brothers Done and four Brunfield. What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Pretty good? My friends? Pretty good? How's everything treating y'all?

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Speaker 1: Pretty good? Man at early morning and the good good, Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you. They tell me you're taping right now. You're

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Speaker 1: taping the show? Are you taping the show right now?

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Speaker 1: Or what's going on? We always work and we always work. Well.

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Speaker 1: got to meet you, uh in Philadelphia, was doing the

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Speaker 1: talking about the show and your individual success stories that

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Speaker 1: you're creating away from the show. Don your first okay,

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Speaker 1: Well you know I'm gonna get you down for that.

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00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: brother comp completely Yeah. So you know, leaving that and

851
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: come home from that experience, UH to join my brothers

852
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: and this opportunity has been nothing but a blessing because

853
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: those lessons have, uh you know, while growing, have taught

854
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: me how to handle this opportunity. Uh to the fan

855
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: my career paths, you know, uh, you know two years

856
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: down the line from now. Absolutely when we get to

857
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: four at four, I just let you know, man, I

858
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: spent five years in Chicago. Is up there with Steve

859
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: Harvey executive do and co created this talk show up there.

860
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: So from twelve to I was up there. So I

861
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: know it's about the code up there. But you guys, yeah,

862
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 1: you guys, just let y'all know, we got a little

863
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: history together. So I was I've been up there, so

864
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: we speak to you. When you speak Chicago to me,

865
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 1: I know about Chicago. It's fifty degrees in June. Okay,

866
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it can get crazy up there. So

867
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: for tell me about you hip hop background and everything

868
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: you're trying to strive for. A man, I really like

869
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: your the role that you play because it's not a

870
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: character as you. And so then we're gonna break down

871
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: some of the cast members. We can educate everybody because

872
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: you know, when I see Black Ink Crew Chicago commercials

873
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: running doing football games. That's a whole new game that's

874
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: playing out for your y'all, showing a whole new audience.

875
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: So I know some more additional blessings that happened because

876
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: of that additional exposure. But let's find out a little

877
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 1: bit more about about you for um you know, uh,

878
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: it's definitely um a blessing with the clasform that we

879
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: have been from the South side of the Kago, you know,

880
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: born and raised, um, you know, to to basically just

881
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: be a you know, integration for our city, you know,

882
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: and show you know, people that not from Chicago. You

883
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: know what I mean that it's not always as bad

884
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: as the same. There are good parts that are you know,

885
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,479
Speaker 1: great people here as well. You know, you're just trying

886
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 1: to be role models to our people and people pretty

887
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: much people who can relate to our story. You know. Me,

888
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: I'm definitely a survivor from mental illness issues, you know,

889
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: so um, you know, having my brothers, you know what

890
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying, uh, pretty much you know be there for me,

891
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: you know, play the big part. So I tried to

892
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 1: now just you know, spread the love and spread those

893
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: words to you know, help someone else through their journeys.

894
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: You know, whatever it is that they're going through. You know,

895
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: we lost a sister, you know what I'm saying to

896
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: you know, mental illness. So we just try to now,

897
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: you know, just be you know leaders, you know that,

898
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: and just motivate our people, you know, rather through the music,

899
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: but rather to look to see on tv UM just

900
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: to see our growth. We've been on this, uh like

901
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: in Cruce, Chicago now for six seasons. So you know,

902
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: now we're just trying to you know, keep our journey

903
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: going and just doing being the right way and you know,

904
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: show people how to be you know bosses instead of

905
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: you know, always works like we can do it. We're pwerful.

906
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: We got you know, the right mindset. You gotta you know,

907
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta do it. Well. It's really important.

908
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 1: It's really important that you guys are speaking this way

909
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: because these shows are you called reality series or documents,

910
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 1: they're really commercials. The platforms too, you know, grow your brain,

911
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: promote your brand if you have if you have a

912
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: product you want to say, you get it out on

913
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: the show and it's and you'd be remissed if you

914
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: don't do that. Now done, you want to get into acting,

915
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm just let you know. You may not know my background,

916
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: but you know, you know sitcoms, Blockbuster movies. You might

917
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: want to you might want to google me. My brother

918
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: might want to google me. And so because uh, and so,

919
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: when I look at you as an active okay, when

920
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: you when you when you when I when I saw you,

921
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: first of all, you're you're good looking guy. Let's go

922
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: and put that out there. Okay, and but your and

923
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 1: your personality was really engaging. Okay, you articulate. So when

924
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: you when you look at your the structure of competition

925
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: out there, are you're gonna Okay, you should ago or

926
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: now they do have acting opportunities in Chicago, but you

927
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: know l A. A lot of people moved to Atlanta,

928
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: but really they should go to l A. When I

929
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: see the word acting trying to pursue that, what does

930
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: that mean? Because you know LA is where you gotta be. No,

931
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: l A completely completely the uh by ultimate goal. You

932
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: know we have my brother about leaving Chicago is on

933
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: the top of the list for opportunities. Hello, yeah, I'm

934
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: still here wait knowing your brother because I just know

935
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: that I just know that you know, when you're doing that,

936
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: you're taking the acting classes. What when you say acting

937
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 1: to pursuing it, just give us a little more audition

938
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: other than the roles that you're playing. Are the are

939
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: the are the series of Black Ink Chicago? What are

940
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: the things? When you say you're pursuing it, what do you?

941
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: What do you? What experiences are you? Are? You are

942
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: pursuing it? To grow that, to grow that end of

943
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: your business, because I know that four his hip hop career,

944
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: you got five albums, he's dropped, so he's in that lane,

945
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 1: he's he's he's rolling. So on the acting in where

946
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: you at? Oh, well, for me, of course, action classes

947
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: a must. I'm constantly trying to master that craft even

948
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: if I'm at home doing uh practice of myself self.

949
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: Take anything I can do to keep better in at

950
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: the craft. Right now, I'm participating in three or four

951
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: different on stage slaves. Uh. That's to constantly get comfortable

952
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: with being uncomfortable when you step in front of that

953
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: live crowd and the live audience and you have to

954
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: sell them the moment in the dream, basically believe in

955
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: the character. For me, that's a humble and experience as

956
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 1: an actor. I think transitioning from stage to on camera

957
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: that has made it easier for me to do or

958
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: on camera actor because there's nothing like being in front

959
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: of the live audience and uh, you don't get a

960
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: second take when there's a live crowd. So it pushes

961
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: me to really go home and study my line, study

962
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: my craft, study my character. Uh, and for me, it's

963
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: become fun, it's become a passion. Um. That's why I'm

964
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: always in the gym. That's where I'm am was on

965
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: top of my my constantly want to uh be able

966
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: to deliver my character and deliver this. Uh. You know,

967
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: my skill sets that the maximum ability. So for me,

968
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: it's just been constant reinforcement and hitting the pavement right now,

969
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: taking on each and every opportunity that's given to me.

970
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: Right now. That's really great. I'm talking to Don and

971
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: for Broomfield as b r U M F I E

972
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 1: L D there from the hit series Black in Chicago

973
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: that airs every Wednesday, eight eastern seventh Central on v

974
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: H one. Met Don up and up in Philadelphia. Great, great,

975
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: great gentlemen. You know, came in commanded the room. You know,

976
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: people are running up to them. Get this autograph. I

977
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: gotta self here with him too. Then my then my

978
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: pr person, Done messed it up. I could even post it. Man,

979
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta go, we gotta self. I can't

980
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: even post them next time I coming because I'm coming

981
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: to Chicago for the NBA All Star Games. So if

982
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: you guys around, which I'm sure you will be, let's

983
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: connect because I would love to sit down just talk

984
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: about because that's why I created money making conversation, to

985
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: to be able to sit down and listen the people

986
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: dreamed and then help. And I'm not asking for any

987
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: money when I when I said that God has given

988
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: me a many lands of success, many many lanes of success,

989
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: and many relationships. And all I try to do is

990
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: just point people in different directions. And I'm talking to

991
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: Done and for Broomfield. There were on this show in

992
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: the hit show, because I see it on NFL commercials

993
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 1: Now Black in Cruise, Chicago airs every Wednesday at eight eastern,

994
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: seven Central. You guys are influencers, and I would just

995
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: tell you something done when I met you, you know

996
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: you You's it's an aura that radiate from you that

997
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: I liked, that I that I gravitated to, you know,

998
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: And I've been around a lot of successful people and

999
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm a successful person. You have it man, and and

1000
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: four and meeting you for the first time and here

1001
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: and how you talk, you got it too. So that

1002
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: means that you two are influencers. It's continue that mantle

1003
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: of influencing because I have I'm hosting the panel tonight

1004
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: for big Brothers, Big Sisters. It's called real Men Who

1005
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: Mentor and I'm hosting that tonight. I got my Borrico

1006
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: leave Or Boy, Harry Douglas from the Atlanta, our cousins

1007
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: and other people que Parker from one twelve. We all

1008
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: get in there and eight hours a day for that's all.

1009
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: We have to get one year. And I'm not engaging

1010
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: you to do this. I'm just telling you what we

1011
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: have to do as leaders. We have to commit our

1012
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,959
Speaker 1: time elsewhere and here you too talk dude. Y'all, y'all,

1013
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 1: y'all some bad boys. Man, y'all awesome bad boys. I'm

1014
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: just gonna let you all know that. Thank you, brother.

1015
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,959
Speaker 1: We're just trying to continue to grow. Um. Like you said,

1016
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: you know us going to Camp Chicago has been a

1017
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: journey in itself. Uh. You know, I like a lot

1018
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: of youth today, they don't have opportunities we had getaways.

1019
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 1: Conversations like this is a reminder of the things that

1020
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: we do daily. Uh. You know, my brother is a

1021
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: witness who I was working on at Turning to School

1022
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 1: for six years, working with the youth of Chicago. Continue

1023
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: to create constant programs to trying to continue to grow. UH.

1024
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: So you know, this type of conversation will help us.

1025
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: We have these kids at an earlier age avenue will

1026
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: success UH and learning that every kid is not going

1027
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: to be an athlete. Every kid is not gonna, you know,

1028
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: exhale in school. So conversations like this, we'll teach our

1029
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: kids about early entrepreneurship. Some of these kids are brilliant

1030
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: to where they can come to that out of high

1031
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: school on their own business. And these are type of

1032
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: things I want to teach them that will help them

1033
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: straight away from the street, like UH straad away from

1034
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: the negative activities that they have to participate in just

1035
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: to get back. UM. So the younger we could teach

1036
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 1: them about UH leadership and entrepreneurship and being their own

1037
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: leaders in bostics. I think that's just gonna what's going

1038
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 1: to help turn to Podgora Land because every kid wants

1039
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,479
Speaker 1: to either be a rapper or athlete because they believe

1040
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: like that's the way out. And I want to give

1041
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: them the jewels and the tools to be successful way

1042
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: earlier than what we were. It took us, we eventually

1043
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: figured it out. But if I could give that to

1044
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: a fifteen year old, a peaking year seventy years the

1045
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: holts that I have now, I think that's gonna make

1046
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: a way bigger impact, uh than a lot of other

1047
00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: things that we can do. This is awesome. Uh, first ball,

1048
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: I didn't I don't talk about I know the cast

1049
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: members because you guys are so engaging. You guys are

1050
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: so special and know this. You can keep Rushan mcgonna

1051
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: naming your roller text roller deck. So if you ever

1052
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: need me to come up there, I come up on

1053
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: my own dime. I paid for my whole hotel, I

1054
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: pay for my own uber to come to your advantage

1055
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: and support you. I'm just that way. I'm just that way.

1056
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: It's a gift you gotta give to get, and to

1057
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: get I'm getting a relationship. If I give the relationship right,

1058
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: then we're gonna all win. Because all were trying to

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