1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hull. That for me. I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: be happy. You want to be happy for a day? 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: Edi state is that? Woo? 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 3: Woof? 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: And Dan and Ty. 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the solid verbol driven by Geico. My 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 3: name is Ty hilden Brandt. That guy over there, still 10 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 3: way over there in sunny southern California. My beloved co 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 3: host Dan Rubinstein, Sir, Happy New Year, my friend. 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: How are you hey good? I'm wonderful. This is our 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: first recording show of twenty twenty two. I was up 14 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 2: at five something this morning. We're recording this the Sunday, 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: January second, if my dates are correct. Woke up at 16 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: the crack of dawn, played some tennis with a senior citizen. 17 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: I'm feeling good. 18 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: I've watched a lot. 19 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: Of football these past few days. I have a lot 20 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: of thoughts and I'm excited to share them with you 21 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 2: and whoever else is listening in on this show. So 22 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: I'm rad Ty. 23 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: How you doing? I am doing well. 24 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: Was a great weekend of football. Happy New Year to 25 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 3: one and all listening. We appreciate your supporting our show. 26 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 3: Don't forget to subscribe or follow, and then if you 27 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 3: can rate a review out on Apple or Spotify, check 28 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: out verballers dot com. It's going to continue deep into 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: the offseason. We've got plans. We'll start talking about those 30 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 3: before long. Verballers dot Com is our wonderful Patreon community 31 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 3: that was popping off as the New Year's six and 32 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: playoff games were transpiring on Friday and Saturday. And finally, 33 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 3: Solid giveaway dot Com. As you know, we're giving away 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: that Desmond Howard signed mini helmet. You got about a 35 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: week left to enter that latest contest again. 36 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: It's free to join. 37 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 3: Just a few short steps that you need to go 38 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: through and get your hat in the ring, your name 39 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 3: in the hat to win again that signed Desmond Howard 40 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: mini helmet. 41 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: Daniel would, I would strongly recommend it. 42 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: So what was your watch situation? Now? 43 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: I know you're far from home. You're out there in 44 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: sunny southern California, which hasn't been all that sunny for 45 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 3: you unfortunately. 46 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: Now it's nice. Now it's nice. Now. You saw it 47 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: on TV yesterday with Utah Ohio State that the sun 48 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: did come out and it was a glorious winter Southern 49 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: California weekend. 50 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: What was your watch situation on Friday and Saturday? How 51 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: much football did you watch? More importantly, what did you eat? 52 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: These are what the people care about. 53 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, those are all relevant questions. During the playoff, 54 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: we had giant Italian sandwiches that would be Friday afternoon 55 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: and late afternoon into the evening Pacific Yesterday during what 56 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: did I have yesterday? Yesterday, we had some pizza for lunch. 57 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: I went out and got like a late extended breakfast 58 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: type situation with coffee and a cookie and some avocado toasts, 59 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: because that's what you do when you're in Southern California. 60 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 2: The thing was a brick, by the way. I went 61 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: went to a place called Lodge Bread between some of 62 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: the games and it was great. I ate a lot 63 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: of food, and last night I was so stuffed. I 64 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: think I kind of forgot to eat dinner or was 65 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: just not in the mood. And that's very unusual for me. 66 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: But I was watching Baylor ole miss and you know, 67 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: I focused all my energy there, so watched it downstairs. 68 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: Kids running and crawling around. Solid not solid wife Jody 69 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: with an eye was not happy during the Michigan Georgia game, 70 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: not her finest hour as a fan Alabama, since he 71 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: was a good watch. And yeah, during some of the 72 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: morning Bowl games Pacific time yesterday, I kind of snuck 73 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: up to the room I'm staying in and watched them 74 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: on a laptop to avoid parenting duty and sort of 75 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: be left alone because that's I don't know, desperate times, 76 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. But all in all, a lot 77 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: of football consumed a lot of football thoughts bouncing around 78 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: my dumb brain. 79 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: We had two playoff games that took place on Friday 80 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: evening New Year's Eve. We had a bunch of other 81 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: really high level contests that took place on New Year's Day. 82 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: Of course, many of the New Year's Six. We'll get 83 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: into all of that and much much more. Again, don't 84 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 3: forget to go on out to our website, soliverble dot com, where, 85 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: of course you can find more information all of our 86 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: previous episodes and all the articles that we're going to 87 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 3: continue posting throughout the offseason. Dan, why don't we start 88 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 3: with playoff semi final Numero Uno. They played this one 89 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: at the Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic in Arlington. It was 90 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: between number one Alabama number four. Cincinnati. Again, your points 91 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 3: spread going into this game was about fourteen points, right, 92 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 3: so Vegas was saying, we think Alabama is demonstrably better. 93 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: As these things typically go over the course of time, 94 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 3: I think you and I both talked ourselves into Cincinnati 95 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 3: plus the points, and there was I think good reason 96 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: for that. Right, Cincinnati has been a really good team. 97 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 3: They've been just as good as most of the other 98 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: teams that were vying for that final playoff spot. They 99 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: had a good defense, they had two shutdown corners potentially 100 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 3: a top draft er first or second round draft pick 101 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: in Desmond Ritter and Alabama transfer in Jerome Ford. There 102 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,799 Speaker 3: were plenty of weapons to I think be excited about 103 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: on that Cincinnati side. 104 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: Of the ball. 105 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: What we didn't know is how they would pair up 106 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 3: against a team like in Alabama. We saw them against 107 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 3: Notre Dame early in the year, I think, before Notre 108 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 3: Dame improved, and so it was a bit of an 109 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: open question, like, we like Cincinnati, but are they going 110 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 3: to be competitive with Alabama? 111 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: Sorta yeah, I mean they were competitive for a chunkier 112 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: time than I would have expected, given some of their 113 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: offensive limitations and executing in higher leverage moments. This was 114 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: a seventeen to six game, pretty deep, right, what was 115 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: I mean? Seventeen six in the third quarter, end of 116 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: the third quarter or something like that, and they were 117 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: a successful drive away from it becoming a seventeen thirteen game, 118 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 2: seventeen fourteen game and really coming down to the wire. Now, 119 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: great teams win those moments. Great teams figure out ways 120 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: to get you know, uh what a Federian uh, I 121 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 2: apologize to pronounce his name wrong. Mathis is hand in 122 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: a passing lane over and over again, and to come 123 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: up big on third down and fourth down, and to 124 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 2: complete those tricky passes and to make key tackles and 125 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: key moments. Alabama's that team. But this is arguably the 126 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:22,799 Speaker 2: worst modern Bama team, which is you know, it's all relative, 127 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 2: of course, but no, I think there was good reason 128 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 2: to think that if Cincinnati could come through in those moments, 129 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: which is what those scenarios require for a team who 130 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 2: is you know, vastly less deep and less talented, that's 131 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: what it needs. And I thought Cincinnati gave it there 132 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: all on defense and probably weren't expecting that run heavier 133 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: performance from Bill O'Brien. 134 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: I want to talk about that, yeah, continue, Yeah. 135 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: But I thought they came to play, especially in the 136 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 2: second half. I thought they adjusted really well. I thought 137 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: the corners played well. They were able to keep some 138 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: of the explosive plays in check, and Alabama sort of 139 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: took what Cincinnati gave them, which is what really strong 140 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: teams do. And it just came down to something we 141 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: talked about, and it's where's the electricity coming from on 142 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: offense And unfortunately it was not coming from Desmond Ritter 143 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: and it was not you know, in those key moments 144 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: in the red zone on third down, on fourth down. 145 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: That was the difference. It was the Bama pass rush, 146 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: and it was the lack of ability to adjust and say, okay, 147 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: ab aren't working, here's c dne And since he just 148 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: didn't have it, I don't think it's any sort of 149 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: referendum on Cincinnati. They're just not as good as Alabama. Well, 150 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: and that's it. 151 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: I mean Cincinnati was held to two hundred and eighteen 152 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: yards in total, one four through the air, seventy four 153 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: on the ground, just two of twelve on third downs. 154 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: It wasn't a case where there were any horrible mistakes. 155 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: They didn't have any turnovers. There wasn't a terrible coaching 156 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: decision or anything like that. They just very clearly up 157 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: against a better team that should come at the price 158 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 3: to any of. 159 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: The red zone. 160 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: Did they not? Did they opt to kick on like 161 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: fourth and medium in the red zone? I think a 162 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: lot of people were commenting, like, do you beat Alabama 163 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: doing this? Probably not? 164 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you also beat Alabama if you scored twenty 165 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: one more points and regardless, also true, regardless, Cincinnati was 166 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: just not the better team in this game. Alabama, to 167 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: your point, took a real ride on the underthink Express 168 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: when they put this game plan together. I think the 169 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 3: logic must have been, hey, uh, our line is awesome, 170 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: so maybe we'll just run it. And Brian Robinson's a house, 171 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: He's a dude. He hasn't always gotten a ton of 172 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: work this year, but in this moment, twenty six carries 173 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: two hundred and four yards on the day. Six of 174 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: those carries came in the very first drive of the game, 175 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: and we were talking about this in the verbal or discord. 176 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 3: It was one of those deals where Cincinnati was trying 177 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 3: not to get the top blown off. They were trying 178 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: to prevent against the Jamison Willy big play and they're 179 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 3: playing guys deep and they just kept handing it off. 180 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: Yep. 181 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,599 Speaker 3: So six of those carries very first drive. It was 182 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: apparent from the jump what Bama was gonna do. 183 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: All told. 184 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: They finish as a team with forty seven carries for 185 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 3: over three hundred yards on the ground. Bama was just 186 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 3: content to take six yards of pop, of course, and 187 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: pick their spots because there were moments in this game 188 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: where Cincinnati chose not to play that shell, and that 189 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 3: was when Bryce Young got him. All three of Alabama's touchdowns, 190 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: by the way, were through the air from Bryce Young. 191 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 3: Bryce Young didn't need to have an incredible day like 192 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: we saw from CJ. Stroud or Jack Cohen or some 193 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 3: of the other names that we'll talk about, because they 194 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: were so effective on the ground. So good on them 195 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: for doing what they could, to your point, taking what 196 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 3: the defense gave them, and they won this one twenty 197 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 3: seven to six in pretty resounding fashion. Even though it 198 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 3: was closer late, and even though it did seem as 199 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: if Cincinnati had chances where they could have maybe gotten 200 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 3: this thing a little bit closer, it was clear from 201 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 3: the jump that Alabama was just flat out better. 202 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was also clear that like the 203 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: mistakes that Cincinnati did make, our mistakes that just can't 204 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: happen being on special teams offense or defense, and that 205 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: you're right, I think. 206 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: You nailed it. 207 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: It's Bill O'Brien. Every time Bill O'Brien dropped back for 208 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 2: you know, drop Bryce Young back to pass on first 209 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: or second down, it almost felt like, why are you 210 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: doing this? Yeah, Like at his best, Bill O'Brien was 211 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: looking at two high safeties for Cincinnati and saying, okay, yeah, still, okay, 212 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna hand it off again. And it was 213 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: the right move. I'm sure Bama fans were sort of 214 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 2: frustrated with some of the play calling at times that 215 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: Bama was not able to capitalize on how sort of 216 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: sluggish Cincinnati's offense was made to appear by a swarming 217 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 2: Bama defense, which was, by the way, playing two backup corners. Yeah, 218 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: and Cincinnati was not able to make all that much 219 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 2: hay in the passing game. I think Desmondridter finished with 220 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: something like four or five yards per attempt. So, I mean, 221 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: it's it's a testament to how deep and prepared this 222 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:06,239 Speaker 2: secondary is. But this was not Bama at its strongest 223 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: on either side of the ball with John Metchi out. 224 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 2: So kudos to Alabama. But I can understand the frustration, 225 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: which is very weird to say that, oh, maybe Alabama 226 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 2: should have won this game thirty eight to six instead 227 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: of the way that they did it. That they weren't 228 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: able to take advantage of Cincinnati giving them the ball 229 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: that much. But otherwise a nice workmanlike effort cover the spread. 230 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: Moving on for they have to be Georgia again for 231 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: some reason. That's the way this sport works. That's that's 232 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: the way this works. Yeah, So Cincinnati. 233 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: One thing I did want to push back on, and 234 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: I saw some people talking about this on Twitter, of course, 235 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 3: the ultimate marketplace of bad ideas. 236 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: Of course I want to push back. 237 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 3: On the notion that since he didn't belong here, we 238 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: have seen more teams than I could probably count aloud 239 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: go up against a team like an Alabama or a 240 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: Clemson in these playoff games and have a similar result. 241 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 3: I don't view this as any great indictment of Cincinnati football. 242 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: They deserve to be there. 243 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 3: They were the only undefeated team at the end of 244 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 3: the year. They are obviously no longer unbeaten. This will 245 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: be disappointing for them, but the job that Luke Fickle did, 246 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 3: the players that are on that team are very, very good, 247 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 3: and just because they lost here in pretty resounding fashion, 248 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 3: I just don't buy into the notion that they didn't belong. 249 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 3: They belonged as much as anybody else. 250 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: Was there anybody specifically that you respected or respect that 251 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: said Cincinnati didn't belong or is that just the general 252 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: like bad vibes in the ether, that you want to 253 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: receive bad bad. 254 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: Vibes in the ether? 255 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,119 Speaker 3: Okay, Like I said, there was plenty of Twitter conversation 256 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 3: out there, most of which I think was positive for Cincinnati, 257 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 3: but there were some bad apples who were like, oh, 258 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: well this is you know, I just don't buy into that. 259 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you this, after a full day 260 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: of football and a full bowl season short of we 261 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: have not we have LSU Kansas State left and the 262 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: national Championship. At the time of recording, there isn't a 263 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: top ten team where I thought to myself, Man, if 264 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: only they got in Sea exactly, if that's my point, 265 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 2: If only Notre Dame's second half against Oklahoma State was 266 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: on display against Alabama would we have ourselves a real 267 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: playoff or Oklahoma State's first half against Alabama like there, 268 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: It just isn't that team that exists. So I don't 269 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: even think about those things. I it happened that Cincinnati 270 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: got in. I'm good with it. I wanted to see 271 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: what they could do. They came up short. I'm on 272 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: to Michigan Georgia. 273 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: Michigan Georgia was our Draft Kings game of the week. 274 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 3: It was the second of two playoff semi finals. They 275 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 3: played this one at the Capitol One Orange Bowl and 276 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: hard Rock Stadium down there in Miami Gardens. The final 277 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 3: was thirty four to eleven in favor of the George Bulldogs. 278 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: And you know, this one sort of went the way 279 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 3: I had been thinking. Lo and behold, it finally happened 280 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 3: where I got one right. I spoke with your chest, 281 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: I spoke with my chest, and it just so happened 282 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 3: that that's how it panned out. 283 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: On the whole. 284 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: Georgia bottled up the run. They forced Michigan to throw 285 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: at thirty six times, which is definitely not what Jim 286 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 3: Harbaugh had to mind. And I get it, those numbers 287 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 3: are going to be skewed a bit because Michigan went 288 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: down early, but clearly that was not the game Michigan 289 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: wanted to play in order to beat Georgia. In the end, 290 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: they have three turnovers, they're fighting for their lives, they're 291 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: trying to get back in this thing. But Stetson Bennett 292 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: is feeling it on the other side of the field. 293 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 3: He went twenty of thirty three thirteen, three touchdowns to 294 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: no interceptions, really accurate with the football. Popped a few 295 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 3: big gainers in this one. We had all sorts of 296 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: scut of butt talking about stets and Bennet. It's quite 297 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 3: the athlete or stets and Bennett putting the doubters to shame, 298 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 3: all of those narratives that I'm sure we're sick and 299 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 3: tired of hearing about. Look, stets And Bennett deserves the praise. 300 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 3: He had a great game, good job. The Georgia defense 301 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 3: did what the Georgia defense has done all season and 302 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 3: contained a good offense in the Michigan Wolverines. They just 303 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: didn't have an answer for that. They were not able 304 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: to get any kind of foothold. It's not even that 305 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: they were that terrible on third downs or any like. 306 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 3: They were just outclassed here. It was much the same 307 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: that we saw with the Alabama and Cincinnati game. Where 308 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: there was something that they wanted to do, they could 309 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 3: not do it. Georgia had more ways to respond, and 310 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: in the end, over the course of sixty minutes, that's 311 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 3: how you get a thirty four to eleven final score. 312 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: Everything Georgia did and everybody who did that did those 313 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: things for Georgia was better than everything Michigan did and 314 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: the players that Michigan tried to do those things with. 315 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: There wasn't a single element to this game that I 316 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: thought to myself, if the rest of Michigan started playing 317 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 2: like this part of Michigan, they'd have a chance. The 318 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: offensive line was overwhelmed, the defensive line was overwhelmed. You 319 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: saw how great of a job did did David o'jabo 320 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: and Aiden Hutchinson do against the Georgia offensive line? Not 321 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: a great job, ty right? 322 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: Oh? 323 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: They were completely held down. And that's the strength that's 324 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: I mean, that is one of the best pass rushing 325 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: doos in the country, if not the best pass rushing duo. 326 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: Stetson Bennett had time and even when he didn't have time, 327 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: he was getting passes off and it was whether it's 328 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: brock Bauers doing brock Bauers things as one of the 329 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: best one two three tight ends in the country as 330 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: a freshman, whether it's Jermaine Burton getting past Vince Gray 331 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: on that longer touchdown catch, whatever it was, whether it's 332 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: Nakobe Dean going from where was this games game was 333 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: in Miami, going from Tallahassee to the other side, like 334 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: he's moving across the state in a way that quickly, 335 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: and so it making plays the way that Georgia was 336 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: able to do. They give up what the long touchdown 337 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: pass essentially in garbage time. But Georgia came out more prepared, 338 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: and Georgia was prepared to form Michigan to make perfect 339 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: plays in order to march the ball downfield. And we 340 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: saw it early on when you know Cade McNamara on 341 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 2: whatever it was, third and four, third and six, where okay, 342 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: he has to hit this slant to keep the drive going. 343 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: Georgia defends it. It's a bad pass there, fourth and six. 344 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: He throws an out that's just not good enough. And 345 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: when Georgia is at its best, you need to be 346 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 2: the most perfect version of yourself to hang around and 347 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 2: Michigan was not the most perfect version of itself, let 348 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: alone a team with an ability to hang around. And 349 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 2: so what Georgia did was was wall to wall dominance, 350 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 2: and as great of a season as Michigan had, it 351 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: was obvious that they just couldn't hang the waves with 352 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: which Georgia came at the Wolverines on defense, the confidence 353 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: I mean Stetson Bennett at this point, And I tweeted 354 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 2: this out, like what are we talking about in terms 355 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: of modern Georgia quarterbacks? Like what more could he have 356 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: done this year? He had a couple of dud quarters 357 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: or haves or something this year, but where he's led 358 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 2: this team? And I know there's clamoring for JT. Daniels 359 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: because of a perceived higher ceiling. Has there been a 360 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: Georgia quarterback who has been this good on a great 361 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: Georgia team, who has made the winning plays that he's made. 362 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 2: If you want to talk about Aaron Murray has had 363 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 2: a dud of a season and a half for this 364 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: Georgia program. Matt Stafford has thrown thrown in some duds, 365 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 2: Like we just need as a collective unit, a college 366 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: football unit, we need to put a lot more respect 367 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: On Stetson Bennett's name as not just like a cute 368 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: story post carrier hat whatever. He's a full on, very 369 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 2: very good quarterback who is a heartbeat a gust of 370 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 2: win from becoming a national championship winning quarterback for Georgia, 371 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: an unreal player. 372 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: He's been good and you know what, he's gotten better 373 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 3: because I remember when we had these types of conversations 374 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 3: a year ago. And I'll use that Alabama game from 375 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 3: a year ago as an example. Stetson Bennett through a 376 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 3: couple interceptions. I don't recall if it was two or three, 377 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 3: but it was at least two. And there was a 378 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,719 Speaker 3: moment in the twenty twenty season where this guy is 379 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 3: suddenly the quarterback. No one knows how to feel about him. 380 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 3: He's playing pretty well until suddenly he's not. And at 381 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 3: that point everybody jumps off the bandwagon, like, uh see, 382 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 3: I told you, I told you this guy's not that good. 383 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 3: He now was thrust back into this starting role this 384 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 3: season again. 385 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: JT. 386 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 3: Daniels perceived to have the higher ceiling, but Stetson Bennett's 387 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 3: in there. He's been playing well. Yeah, he's had a 388 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 3: few duds along the way, but we're pretty deep into 389 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 3: this season. Now Dan George has played fourteen football games. 390 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 3: I think the verdict is in he's gotten better. He's 391 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 3: gotten better. He's improved his game to the nth degree. 392 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 3: He's able to run the football, he's able to move 393 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: the pocket, He's able to do some things that even JT. 394 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: Daniels probably wouldn't be able to do. He's a different player. 395 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 3: And to get them to the point now where they've 396 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 3: got the rematch against Alabama, you know that breakdowns for 397 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 3: another day. But his ability, I think to respond in 398 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: a big game like this is very notable. It's very notable, 399 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 3: and it wasn't too big a stage for him, which 400 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 3: I think is what you're always fearful of if you're 401 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 3: looking at a quarterback and you're not sure if they're 402 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: the real deal. So he definitely deserves all the praise 403 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,719 Speaker 3: that we could heap upon him. One thing I did 404 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 3: want to go back to very quickly before we move 405 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 3: on and talk about some of the other games here. 406 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 3: The Georgia defense obviously playing at a monumentally incredible level, 407 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 3: and the main bullet points are going to be things 408 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 3: like the pass rush and the linebackers and all of 409 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: the top level talent on the defensive side of the ball. 410 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 3: But sometimes it's just the little things. Sometimes it's little 411 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 3: things like just upsetting the balance of the pocket or 412 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 3: upsetting a quarterback's rhythm. And I think we saw that 413 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 3: a lot in this game. Kay McNamara had two interceptions. Now, again, 414 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 3: they were playing from behind most of the way. They 415 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: were down twenty four points at halftime, but even still, 416 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: there are plenty of moments in this one where it 417 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 3: was just a tick off from a timing perspective, where 418 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 3: the Georgia defenders got in there a little bit before 419 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 3: cade McNamara was expecting it, and a pass was behind 420 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 3: a guy, or a pass was too slow to get out, 421 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 3: or it was just going to the wrong guy or. 422 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: A little too deep. 423 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 3: It's just little things like that that can change the 424 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 3: complexion of an offense that I think made it really 425 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: hard for Michigan to have any hope of getting back 426 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 3: into this thing. So, even when it's not the top 427 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: level stats, this Georgia defense, led by your boy Dan Lanning, 428 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 3: did a really good job of changing the game. 429 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: So good good for them. 430 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it's true of all of these 431 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: major games, it's quarterback and defense. A very strong quarterback 432 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 2: can turn mediocre receivers into pretty good receivers, and turn 433 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: good receivers into great receivers, and great receivers into all timers. Right, 434 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 2: This is a it's a position dependent position receiver. With 435 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 2: what Michigan tried to do, they tried to take what 436 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 2: I think is a quarterback who at his best is 437 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: pretty good. But in the aggregate, Kate McNamara is fine. 438 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: His ceiling is evident. And with a quarterback like that, 439 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 2: without you know, an offensive line that can stand up 440 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: to the best of Georgia, without you know, all conference 441 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 2: type receivers to throw to, there's just a limit that 442 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: Michigan can only win in like two ways, one and 443 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: a half to two ways. And I don't know if 444 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 2: that's going to change with future recruiting classes or JJ McCarthy, 445 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: but with what George is able to do with a 446 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 2: quarterback who is full on good according to me, full 447 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 2: on good, who doesn't necessarily have that deep all conference 448 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: stable of receivers but has a great tight end, has 449 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: good receivers, has a very good offensive line, and obviously 450 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 2: a defense to lean on that his own defense is 451 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: going to put the Georgia offense in such a great 452 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 2: position week in and week out. It's you know, it's 453 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: it's the most obvious thing in the world. It's easier 454 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 2: to win. It's just easier to win. So Michigan as 455 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: a program is depending on average to decent quarterback play. 456 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: It's good enough to win this iteration of the Big Ten. 457 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: But on this stage, you know, the everybody sort of 458 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 2: moved to their corner, just like, oh, I see, I 459 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: see who is able to play on this stage. And look, 460 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 2: maybe it's Michigan next year or the year after that 461 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: or something like that where they take their recruiting up 462 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: a level and they develop guys or they you know, 463 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 2: year two of the Mike McDonald defense is really dialed in. 464 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 2: But it just it was early on. It was it 465 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: was very clear that like, oh man, Michigan needs I 466 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: don't know, a punt return, a pick six, and a 467 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 2: freak Georgia mistake to really be in this game. 468 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: To just get some start. There was no momentum. 469 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, when you start need to ticking off, When 470 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: when you need to tick off those types of boxes, 471 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: it's gonna get ugly quickly downlow. 472 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 3: The Draft Kings Sportsbook app now use the promo codes 473 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 3: Solid sol I D You bet us five dollars on 474 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 3: any college football team and win two hundred dollars in 475 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 3: free bets if they're victorious. We've got a couple games 476 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 3: left here, so please consider it. The promo code is 477 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 3: solid again. Bet on college football this remaining bowl season 478 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 3: at DraftKings sports Book. 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It's going to be played a week from 485 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 3: today on Monday, January tenth, in Sonny, Indianapolis, where the 486 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 3: SEC goes to win its championships. 487 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: I was just informed by Jody with an Eye that 488 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: we paid a local teenager to clear snow around our 489 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 2: house and the walk and the garage and everything else 490 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: that needed clearing. So I guess have fun with all 491 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 2: that Alabama and Georgia fans, because I'll be returning there 492 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 2: in two days, and it's it's a different way of living. 493 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 3: We will be dropping our preview one day this week 494 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 3: to get you ready for that national championship. But again 495 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 3: it is Alabama thirteen and one, Georgia thirteen and one. 496 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 3: Georgia is an early three point favorite. I checked this morning. 497 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 3: It looks like that is holding steady at least for now. 498 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 3: So we'll discuss that in alarming detail throughout the course 499 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 3: of this week. Yes, they played once before. 500 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: It is a rematch. 501 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 3: Bama won that one by seventeen about a month ago, 502 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 3: but we'll get to that in due time. Shall we 503 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 3: go on out to the Rose Bowl in the interim, 504 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 3: I'd love to the Rose Bowl again, presented by Capital 505 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 3: one venture X. A good one, A fun one. Ohio 506 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 3: State forty eight, Utah forty five. I have Utah led 507 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 3: thirty five twenty one and looked really good. 508 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: But but you did. 509 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 3: Get the sense that they weren't exactly holding down the 510 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: Ohio State offense, Like even though they were winning, and 511 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 3: even though it was halftime, you sort of just like, hmm, 512 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 3: you could feel the vibrations in the force that Ohio 513 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 3: State had a lot of meat left on the bone, 514 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 3: and indeed that was the case. Holy hell, did we 515 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 3: get statistics in this game? 516 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: CJ. 517 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 3: Stroud five seventy two, six touchdowns and one interception, Jackson 518 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 3: Smith and Jigba sixteen targets, fifteen catches and a Rose 519 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 3: Bowl record of three hundred and forty six yards and 520 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 3: three touchdowns. Just incredible video game numbers here. You can't 521 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 3: even put up these numbers in a video game for 522 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jigba, And I think on the whole 523 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 3: we could talk about Utah, but just again to close 524 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: the loop on this whole statistical anomaly that we saw 525 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 3: in this game, absolutely absurd to me that wide receiver 526 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 3: three goes for three forty six and three touchdowns and 527 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 3: what was it like wide receiver five or six? In 528 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior gets three touchdowns in the freakin' rose 529 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 3: Ball with Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave sending out So 530 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 3: no shortage of talent on this Ohio State offense as 531 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 3: eventually they power their way to victory, led on the 532 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: arm of Stroud and with the hands and legs and 533 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 3: just incredible acrobatics of JSN who again finished with a 534 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 3: Rose Bowl record three forty six fun one to watch 535 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 3: as a fan. Man Like, there was no shortage of 536 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 3: excitement here. 537 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: I am horrified as a college football fan that this 538 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: wide receiver room also had Jamison Williams in it last season. 539 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: That first of all, calling Jackson Smith and jig By 540 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 2: the number three receiver is there's a heavy degree of 541 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: quotes that have to go around that number three. Yes, 542 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: because I think he did set a single season record 543 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 2: for receiving yardage for Ohio State now, so he was 544 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 2: arguably their best receiver, but cast into a number three 545 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: role in terms of name recognition and targets. I don't 546 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: know what the targets look like by the end of 547 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 2: the year, with Chris Olavey and Garrett Wilson obviously having 548 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 2: none in the Rose Bowl, But in terms of ceiling, 549 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigba has the highest even with Chris 550 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 2: o'lave and Garrett Wilson in there. To me, just because 551 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 2: of what when he's what he's able to do in 552 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: the open field with the ball, what he's able to 553 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 2: do in terms of fully dominating a secondary I think 554 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 2: it's a unique quality in that room that's already, as 555 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 2: you mentioned, just crazy deep so you totally correct with 556 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 2: all those things. And yeah, it was the Utah defense 557 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: then as they were and you know, lots you know, 558 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 2: a lot of ink is going to be spilled, tie 559 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: about what Micah Bernard, the running back playing cornery led 560 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,479 Speaker 2: them in tackles, but he was certainly picked on, you know, 561 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: a good deal by c. J. Stroud and Ryan Day 562 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: and the Ohio State offense. And it just felt as 563 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 2: if Utah was doing everything that a team without that 564 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: kind of offensive firepower, but a good amount of firepower, 565 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: you know, getting the kickoff return touchdown from Britain Covey, 566 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 2: getting that freak touchdown run on what was fourth and 567 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: one that Cam Rising just sort of pinballed off of 568 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 2: a bunch of Wio State dudes and stayed up. Like 569 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: I think there's an underrated thickness to how hard Cam 570 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 2: Rising runs because he's a big dude. This is not 571 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 2: like a sort of just you know, a replacement level 572 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: quarterback physically, like this dude can throw, this dude can run. 573 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: And obviously they were a different team once he got 574 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 2: in there as the starter. But yeah, there was a 575 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 2: bit of an inevitability to Ohio State with how at 576 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 2: will they were able to operate on offense even without 577 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: being able to run the ball all that consistently. It's 578 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 2: just you have to have the guys in the second 579 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: Utah didn't. Utah was unable to get home all that 580 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 2: often against the Ohio State offensive line, even a short 581 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 2: handed offensive line, and they didn't Necessarily Utah didn't have 582 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 2: those playmakers out wide to push. I mean, what Ohio 583 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: State was without its starting corners, right, Marcus Williamson in 584 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 2: seven banks yep. So they just it's the difference in 585 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 2: the way that the roster is constructed that Utah still 586 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 2: needed another break or two to win this game, even 587 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: putting up the number of points that they put on 588 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: Ohio State. Obviously, cam Risen goes down late, but I 589 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,239 Speaker 2: think it was Bryson Barnes was the backup quarterback who 590 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 2: actually threw a couple of dimes to keep Utah in it. 591 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: I was I kind of flabbergasted as to why Utah 592 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 2: wasn't trying to strategize at the end of the game. 593 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: They take three timeouts into the off season, which I 594 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 2: don't know if you cash them in. I don't know 595 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: if they're rollover timeouts for the twenty twenty two season. 596 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: It's like Vetorabule, you get credits, coach credits. 597 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: I like that. 598 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: That must be it. 599 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: That must be a Kylewoodham rolling in the digital front 600 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 2: office coaching credits. I was a little taken aback that 601 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: there was not a further attempt to game out the 602 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 2: end of the Rose Bowl from Utah. But otherwise, just 603 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: an incredible watch, an incredible TV show, the most entertaining 604 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: bowl game that I mean, depending on your thoughts on 605 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: I think it was what the Music City Bowl Tennessee 606 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 2: and Purdue. That game was drunk as well. But I 607 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: had a blast watching this game. 608 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: It was terrific. 609 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: I didn't think about Chris o'lave and Garrett Wilson and 610 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 2: Haskell Garrett and Nicholas petite Frere for a millisecond watching 611 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: this game, which I'm pretty happy about because that seemed 612 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: to be something that riled up a lot of people. 613 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,959 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, kirkharb Street or something. 614 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: I oh yeah, oh yeah. 615 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: I didn't think about it for a millisecond, which going 616 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: in I was bummed out. We talked about this that 617 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: it kind of sucked that those guys weren't playing in 618 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 2: this huge game. To me, a huge game that you know, 619 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 2: the Rose Bull has this importance for a lot of people. 620 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: Didn't think about it once, just enjoyed the football and 621 00:31:59,040 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: it was great. 622 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 3: All right, Well again, your final here is forty eight 623 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 3: to forty five. Ohio State finishes eleven and two. Utah 624 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 3: with a really good ten and four campaign, just ran 625 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 3: by the buzz saw. The one thing that I just 626 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 3: wanted to call out one more time here before we 627 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 3: move on. You know, we talk a lot about the 628 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 3: stats that these guys have put up. 629 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: CJ. 630 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 3: Stroud's throwing motion is about the smoothest thing I've seen 631 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 3: all college football season. Yeah, we hear about quarterbacks all 632 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 3: the time who can really spin it? Right? It's one 633 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 3: of our little jokes here. He can really spin it. 634 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 3: There is yeah, minimal effort required for him to throw 635 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 3: the ball. The length of the field and the fact 636 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 3: that he's so young, the fact that he's just getting started, 637 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 3: the fact that frankly, guys like quinn Ewers are transferring 638 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 3: tells you everything you need to know about this guy's ceiling. 639 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 3: Because he had a remarkable finish too, in a ready 640 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 3: remarkable season. 641 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 2: It almost felt like and all season long, I'm saying 642 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 2: there was a basketball on grass, which is an overused term, 643 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: but it had that feeling of, oh, this guy just 644 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 2: starts fast breaks whether or not they're there or not, 645 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 2: that he passes it ahead to a streaking wing or 646 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: something like that. That the guys were so wide open 647 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 2: in that receiver room all over the field and you're 648 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: watch you know, the Michigan State game. There were some 649 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 2: down moments, of course, you know Michigan and Oregon, but 650 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 2: Ohio State at its best had that feel of, oh, 651 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 2: we're playing five on two basketball. Yeah, yeah, And I 652 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 2: don't know who's dunking it this time. I don't know 653 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: who's hitting an open three this time. But if we're operating, 654 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 2: eighty is on the table any given week. And even 655 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 2: with you know, without those two guys at receiver in 656 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl, you're right there, is that just sort 657 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 2: of like, oh, this is a backdoor cut that's wide 658 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 2: open for yet another eighty R dunk. And I don't 659 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 2: know how you how you hate on any of that, 660 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: even if you're a fan of another team, Like, it's 661 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 2: impressive to watch that much athleticism on display, and for CJ. 662 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 2: Stroud as a first year starter to look that comfortable 663 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 2: as the conductor of that kind of offensive symphony. It's 664 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 2: it's an amazing visual. Also, everything I just said about 665 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 2: Ohio State, the opposite is true for that defense. Yeah, yeah, all. 666 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 3: Right, let's go over to the All Stage Sugar Bowl. 667 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 3: Baylor twenty one Old Miss seven Matt Correl hurt at 668 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 3: Corral hurt towards the end of the first quarter, speaking 669 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 3: of charged Twitter moments where everyone going at Kirkhurve Street, 670 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 3: Corral decided to play. Corral had made comments a few 671 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 3: weeks ago that it wasn't like him to sit out. 672 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: He wanted to. 673 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 3: Play, and good for him. Whatever you want to do, 674 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 3: good for you. He twisted his ankle pretty badly. Eventually 675 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 3: had to be carted off back to the locker room, 676 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 3: came back out on crutches. I saw this morning that 677 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 3: X rays were negative, and it looks like it's just 678 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 3: a really bad high ankle sprain. It was ugly, and 679 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 3: of course all of our hearts were in our throats 680 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 3: because this is a kid who's clearly going to be 681 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 3: drafted pretty highly into the league. You don't want to 682 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 3: see anybody get hurt, especially in a game like this, 683 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 3: a big game. The All State Sugar Bowl. So with 684 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 3: him going out and Luke Altmeyer coming in, clearly that 685 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 3: meant advantage Baylor, but this was still a pretty close 686 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 3: game late. Yep, the Old Miss defense, for their part, 687 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 3: held really well. It wasn't as if there was an 688 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,919 Speaker 3: offensive explosion, at least on behalf of Gary Bohannon, who 689 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 3: did come back, who did play in this game, He 690 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 3: only had forty yards passing, a touchdown and the interception. 691 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 3: The focal point for this Baylor team was Abram Smith. 692 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,479 Speaker 3: Was that ground attack two hundred and seventy nine yards 693 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 3: and a touchdown in this one is what ultimately gave 694 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 3: them the difference. There was a long pick six towards 695 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 3: the end of this game that really swung things in 696 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 3: Baylor's favor, But for the most part, despite the fact 697 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 3: that Corral went out, this is a seven to seven 698 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 3: ball game after three quarters, Dan, this is a close matchup. 699 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was close and not that exceptional in terms 700 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 2: of offensive fireworks. But yeah, the best thing in this 701 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,959 Speaker 2: game was clearly Baylor's defense, especially knowing that they would 702 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,479 Speaker 2: have a green quarterback not used to seeing the type 703 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 2: of pressure Baylor is able to bring. And I just 704 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 2: all in all, it was an amazing story, especially with 705 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 2: where Baylor was last season. For Baylor to not only 706 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 2: win the Big Twelve, but to come out and win 707 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 2: the Sugar Bowl against a program like Ole Miss. Obviously 708 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 2: a short handed ole Miss, but yeah, not not the 709 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 2: best watch. If you'll like consistent passing, and you know, 710 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 2: you hope Matt Corral is okay and recover as well. 711 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 2: I think he'll have plenty of time. And I just 712 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 2: everything does not need to be a referendum on everything. 713 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 2: Matt Crow wanted to play. He knew the risks. I 714 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 2: applaud him. I hope he's all right. Everybody you know 715 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,919 Speaker 2: approaches the sport and these types of decisions differently, and 716 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 2: you hope for the best for everybody. And so I 717 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 2: you know, Matt Crew came out on crutches, and I 718 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 2: would imagine that if you asked him if he would 719 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 2: do it again, he'd probably say yes to take that chance, 720 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: because he got Ole Missed to where they were. They 721 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 2: had an amazing season. So I came away just thoroughly 722 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 2: impressed by Baylor upfront, the big Man Eca was just 723 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 2: all over the place, the LSU transfer Opuwika, Yeah, and 724 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 2: Baylor heads into the off season in a really, really 725 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,720 Speaker 2: nice spot. I wonder how it'll translate on the recruiting 726 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 2: trail moving forward these next couple of seasons. But yeah, 727 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 2: especially I mean the Baylor athletic program just in general, 728 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 2: winning the national championships in basketball like they have these 729 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 2: past few years. It's just I'm sure it's a great 730 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 2: time to be a Baylor Bear. 731 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 732 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 3: By the way, ten sacks for the Baylor defensive unit chees. 733 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 3: So perhaps for Matt Corrall, was better that he took 734 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 3: an early exit at the end of the first quarter, 735 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 3: because this is a Baylor defense that was hungry. It 736 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 3: was a hungry trail. Bernard who got hurt last year. 737 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 3: One of the things that we talked about in the 738 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 3: twenty twenty season seventeen tackles, ten of which were solo. 739 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 3: So he had a man's effort out there, a total 740 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 3: dude in helping his team to victory. Baylor finishes with 741 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 3: a twelve and two mark. They of course won the 742 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 3: Big twelve Old Miss ten and three. I was going 743 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 3: back before we recorded, and I was looking at some 744 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 3: of the I guess early polls, like the Coach's poll, 745 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 3: and Old Miss wasn't a top ten team. They were 746 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 3: a top twenty five team. But I think by any measure, 747 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 3: this is a very successful campaign for Lan Kiffin. Oh yeah, 748 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:38,760 Speaker 3: and that old mis squad. 749 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 1: Let's move on. 750 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 3: Let's talk about the PlayStation Fiesta Bowl if we must to. 751 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I actually this game was the reason 752 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 2: why I felt pretty good about going out and getting 753 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 2: a snack before the Rose Bowls. Like, wow, twenty eight seven, 754 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 2: All right, good job Notre Dame. A nice start to 755 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 2: the Marcus Freeman era. Sure this will all go swimmingly. 756 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 757 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 3: Oklahoma State went down twenty eight to seven in the 758 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 3: first half. They proceeded to rip off thirty straight points 759 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 3: to grab the lead. They played with tempo in the 760 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 3: second half. Notre Dame had no answer for it. It 761 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 3: definitely was a case, at least to my untrained eye, 762 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 3: of Mike Gundy of Oklahoma State making necessary adjustments in 763 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 3: Notre Dame not knowing how. 764 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 2: That's how it felt. 765 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 3: And so in the second half the complexion of the 766 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 3: game changed pretty dramatically, not just from the Oklahoma State offense, 767 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 3: which found its legs, but the Notre Dame offense suddenly 768 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 3: couldn't do what they were doing. I saw our friend 769 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 3: Pete Sampson tweeting out, like, Okay, somebody's got to figure 770 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 3: out what's going on with Jack Cone here. Jack con 771 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 3: had a great game. He had five hundred yards and 772 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 3: five touchdowns, most of that in the first half, mid you, 773 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 3: but second half it just the game was moving at 774 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 3: a different clip, at a different pace. He was seeing 775 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 3: the field as well. And credit to Oklahoma State for 776 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 3: mounting a huge comeback here. Mike Gundy said, quote clearly 777 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 3: the biggest win in the history of the school as 778 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 3: they win the PlayStation Fiesta Bowl, and you have to 779 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 3: give them credit. Like I could talk to him blue 780 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 3: in the face about the Notre Dame offense and how 781 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 3: they basically went air raid in this one, and all 782 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 3: the good things that we saw from the first half 783 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 3: of the Marcus Freeman era, and there's plenty to say 784 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 3: about the second half as well, But I just don't 785 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 3: want to overshadow the fact that this was a hell 786 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 3: of an effort from Oklahoma State to just not. 787 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: Lose their poise. 788 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 3: Spencer Sanders played a hell of a game. He had 789 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 3: the fumble light which might have cost them, but ultimately didn't. 790 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 3: Credit to them for keeping it together for staying motivated 791 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 3: and not just packing this one in early. 792 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 2: And it could have been uglier too, right Brennan Presley 793 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 2: fumbled it on the goal line as he's about to score. 794 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they would have. 795 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 2: Gone up ten, I think in that moment. So it 796 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 2: could have like just a wild game. As I I 797 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 2: watched it back, and one of those things that you 798 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 2: could depend on this year is win or lose. There 799 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,720 Speaker 2: was something about Oklahoma State's defense in the second half, 800 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 2: and I was trying to remember the show and I 801 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 2: finally did. Do you remember the show that involved the 802 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 2: doctor who was like that that was specially trained to diagnose, right, 803 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:25,240 Speaker 2: the rare diseases and disorders and Health Situation House MD. Yeah, 804 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 2: there is something to Nole's MD because what he was 805 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 2: able to do throughout the Big twelve season. You saw 806 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 2: it in the Bedlam game, right that. I don't think 807 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,479 Speaker 2: Oklahoma got in the end zone on offense after moving 808 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,280 Speaker 2: the ball kind of at will in that first half. 809 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of adjustment Oklahoma State made 810 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 2: against Notre Dame. I do know if I told you 811 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 2: ahead of that game that Jack Cone is going to 812 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 2: throw the ball, damn near seventy times. It would not 813 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 2: have made you excited to watch. 814 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 3: No Well, if if you had told me that he 815 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,240 Speaker 3: threw the ball sixty eight times, I would have assumed 816 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 3: that they were losing by forty points and that this 817 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 3: was the only way they could inch their way back 818 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 3: into it. But right what was apparent I think from 819 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 3: the jump is that they felt if they got the 820 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 3: ball out of his hands quickly, they did a lot 821 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 3: of five wide, They did a lot of motion. They 822 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 3: were trying to get the ball to their playmakers in space. 823 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 3: They did a great job of that early in the 824 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 3: second half. Like you said, Noel's MD diagnosed the situation 825 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 3: at halftime came out and a lot of those plays 826 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 3: weren't there for Jack Cone And because they were off 827 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,280 Speaker 3: the field so quickly, and because Oklahoma State was playing 828 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 3: with tempo, Notre Dame was gassed on defense, they couldn't stop. 829 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 3: First off, whatever they did on offense, Oklahoma State I 830 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 3: think centered around throwing at Clarence Lewis. Because Tay Martin 831 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 3: had a field day. They kept getting that match up. 832 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 3: They kept picking on Clarence Lewis, who I saw some 833 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 3: folks tweeting out went full Gary Gray which deep cut 834 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 3: for Notre Dame fans out there that matchup, in particular, 835 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 3: that tempo. It just all were together and catapulted Oklahoma 836 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 3: State to a thirty seven to thirty five victory. Even 837 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 3: despite the fact that Notre Dame gave up all those 838 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 3: points in the second half, they still had an opportunity 839 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 3: late to get back in this thing, potentially win it, 840 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 3: and the Noles defense just came through. 841 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 2: Well. Tye, as a charter member of the host of 842 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 2: the solid verbal who has watched his team give away 843 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 2: thirty ish unanswered and a loss to a Big twelve 844 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 2: team during bowl season, may I just say welcome, welcome 845 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 2: to my brother in choking. 846 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: Arms, because it's good to be here. 847 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 2: It doesn't and at least Notre Dame's quarterback was healthy 848 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 2: for all four quarters, and there was at least hope 849 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 2: that Notre Dame could make three to seven plays to 850 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 2: somehow pull victory back to South Bend. Notre Dame falls. 851 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 2: What was the number, They're now zero to ten in 852 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 2: their last ten major bowl games. 853 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 3: Oh my god, it feels like oh on one hundred. 854 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 3: Yeah it's not Yeah, it's not ideal. 855 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 2: But should not be a referendum on Marcus Freeman being 856 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,280 Speaker 2: thrust into this position, He's I mean, for all intents 857 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 2: and purposes, he's an interim coach yesterday. He is the 858 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 2: full time coach moving forward, but thrust into an interim 859 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 2: situation to close out this season. So again, I don't 860 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 2: look at that as any sort of defining game from 861 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 2: Marcus Freeman as a head coach. The Marcus Freeman era 862 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 2: starts today to me, so I am, I'm excited to 863 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 2: see what Notre Dame looks like moving forward. But man, 864 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 2: Oklahoma State, way to battle Spencer Sanders. Mathematically, we talked 865 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 2: about this a little. It would have been very difficult 866 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 2: for him to have back to back three or four 867 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 2: interception games, just with the way his career has played out. 868 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 2: He's been a little bit on discipline, throwing the ball 869 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,479 Speaker 2: into you know, downfield or whatever. But he was due 870 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 2: for a pretty good game. And you called this too, 871 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 2: that he's going to have two or three plays with 872 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 2: his feet that are going to it's just going to 873 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 2: change field position. 874 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: And he did. 875 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, and yet he was the leading rusher I believe 876 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 2: for the Pokes, right yep, yep, So just an awesome effort. 877 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 2: Gundy's right, now you know, it was either this game 878 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 2: or I think would they be if hees a decade 879 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 2: ago Stanford, I want to say it's forty one, thirty 880 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 2: eight something along those lines. So great for Oklahoma State. 881 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 2: Way to stay with it and the belief system there 882 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 2: with like no lead is comfortable when you know there 883 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 2: there's a belief in this belief in this offense and 884 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 2: Jim Knowles's ability to adjust. Awesome. Awesome watch not for you, 885 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,959 Speaker 2: but just in general as a nonpartisan person watching this game, 886 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 2: it was. It was fun to see, especially in the 887 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,320 Speaker 2: shadow of two pretty horrific games to watch in the playoff. 888 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 3: All right, let's go on over to the Chick fil 889 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 3: A Peach Bowl. We're gonna jump around a little bit here. 890 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it. 891 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 3: Michigan State thirty one Pit twenty one pitt led twenty 892 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 3: one to ten midway through the fourth quarter. And that's 893 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 3: despite the fact that Kenny Pickett opted out and Nick Patty, 894 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 3: their backup, went down with an injury. So the down 895 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 3: to their third string guy, Davis Bevell, who for his 896 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 3: own part, didn't do terribly fourteen of eighteen. He won 897 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 3: forty nine, a touchdown, a pick. He was under a 898 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,280 Speaker 3: lot of duress, which I think is the main takeaway 899 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 3: because Michigan State brought the house, but you know, got 900 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 3: a fumble return for a touchdown right at the start 901 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,240 Speaker 3: of the third quarter to pad their lead. They're up 902 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 3: again twenty one to ten midway through the fourth quarter. 903 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,280 Speaker 3: In the final eight minutes, as is ever the story 904 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 3: of the Michigan State Spartans. In twenty twenty one, Sparty 905 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 3: rips off twenty one on answer to win. They cap 906 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 3: it off with a late seventy eight yard interception return 907 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,760 Speaker 3: by Cal Halliday, their linebacker, but too late touchdown passes 908 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 3: from Peyton Thorn gave Sparty win number eleven on the season. 909 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 3: He finished with three point fifty four passing and three touchdowns. 910 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 3: Not much of a ground attack for him because Kenneth 911 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 3: walk the third was sitting out. But Peyton Thorn, man 912 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 3: like didn't always have great games, but clearly was a 913 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 3: catalyst for this team in a really big moment in 914 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 3: a New Year's six Bowl game. Michigan State on the 915 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 3: whole just sort of like too stubborn to die this season. 916 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,720 Speaker 3: You could never count them out, especially in bowl season, 917 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 3: right and we talked about this in the build up 918 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 3: Michigan State. You were never going to out effort them. 919 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 3: They were always motivated to play. They played every game 920 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,919 Speaker 3: hard from whistle to whistle. And they did it again 921 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 3: here thirty one to twenty one. They mount the comeback late, 922 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 3: they get the job done in a really big spot against. 923 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 1: A good team like I came away. 924 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 3: Very impressed with pitt because they were without Kenny Pickett, 925 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,439 Speaker 3: without their backup, and still you got Jordan Addison out there, 926 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 3: who's clearly going to be an NFL guy, like, oh h, 927 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 3: so good in the open field. The pit defense was very, 928 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,399 Speaker 3: very good as well. A lot to like about both 929 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 3: these teams. But again it is that motivation station with 930 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 3: Michigan State finding guys who step up in a big moment. 931 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 1: To get the job done. Thirty one to twenty one. 932 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:55,800 Speaker 1: Congrats to them. 933 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, easier with your starting quarterback to win a game 934 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 2: like this and to come back in a game like this, 935 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 2: and certainly was eventually for Michigan State. And yeah, you 936 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 2: know tip of the cap from Michigan State. You know, 937 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 2: it's from where they were at the end of the 938 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 2: Mark d Antonio era with like the empty Senior Day. 939 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 2: If you remember that visual of guys coming out with 940 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 2: parents to kind of an empty stadium in East Lansing 941 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 2: and to where they are now. And sure, pits down 942 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 2: to its third string quarterback, and sure, like the Ohio 943 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 2: State and Purdue games were ugly, I get all of that, 944 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 2: but they weathered. This is you know, Michigan State was 945 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 2: sort of the defining win year clunker team in a 946 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 2: very positive way of twenty twenty one. The way that 947 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 2: they were able to come back against Michigan, the way 948 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 2: that they beat Miami at times looking like they were 949 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 2: going to lose that game at times, that was a 950 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 2: nice one for Michigan State, and going down like they 951 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 2: did against Pitt's third string quarterback. And I did see 952 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 2: the message board geniuses the Twitter account, which might be 953 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 2: the only good college football Twitter account, there was some 954 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,919 Speaker 2: Pitt fan who said, I have no respect for Michigan State. 955 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 2: You almost lost to our third string. Your conference is terrible. 956 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 2: I have nothing good to say about Michigan State. I 957 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,439 Speaker 2: love that energy heading into the new year. I loved 958 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,880 Speaker 2: it so much. And Michigan State they won their clunker. 959 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 2: How do you not tip your cap to that? I 960 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 2: love it. 961 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 3: Let's move on, Let's go to the out Back Bowl. 962 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 3: Another Big ten team in action, Arkansas twenty four, Penn 963 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 3: State ten. How much of this game did you watch? 964 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 2: A good chunk. 965 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 3: Penn State was without six of their best players, five 966 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 3: of which were key contributors on defense. Bunch of guys 967 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 3: opted out. It didn't show initially. Initially, I actually felt 968 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 3: pretty good about Penn State because the defense looked solid 969 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,320 Speaker 3: in the first half. But over the course of the game, 970 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:47,399 Speaker 3: it really began to show because Sam Pittman saw it. 971 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 3: He just eventually switched up to a full zone read 972 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 3: rushing offense. And so if you're looking at kJ Jefferson's 973 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,879 Speaker 3: stat line and you're saying, wow, he just had ninety 974 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 3: eight yards passing. 975 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: What happened? 976 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 3: Well, he had won ten in a touchdown on the 977 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 3: ground between him and Raheem Sanders and Dominique Johnson and 978 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 3: Malik Hornsby who came in, and it was just freaking 979 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 3: playing like zone ree quarterback. 980 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 981 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 3: Officially, fifty eight rushing attempts, three hundred and fifty three 982 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 3: yards and three touchdowns. Penn State led it half. Arkansas 983 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,839 Speaker 3: shut him down in the second half and just ran 984 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 3: the hell out of the ball. That was all they 985 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 3: had to. 986 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 2: Do directly at Penn State. Yeah, especially kJ Jefferson on 987 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:25,919 Speaker 2: those big third and fourth downs. 988 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. 989 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 3: kJ Jefferson did what he had to do to win 990 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 3: this game. So I thought, again, if the motto of 991 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 3: the moment is making your adjustments at halftime, Mike Gundy 992 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 3: did it. Arkansas clearly did it here against Penn State, 993 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 3: just seeing what they saw in film, running the hell 994 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 3: out of the ball, wearing down a Penn State defense 995 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 3: that was clearly playing shorthanded. 996 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Arkansas doing what it does to a lot 997 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 2: of quarterbacks, which is make them think for an extra 998 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 2: second and a half, you know, dropping that third safety deep, 999 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 2: where's this guy going to break? Where's this guy going 1000 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 2: to go? And made Sean Clifford think way too long 1001 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 2: and it showed. 1002 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:02,879 Speaker 1: It showed. 1003 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,839 Speaker 2: I mean, Penn State shorthanded. A lot of these teams 1004 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 2: are shorthanded. That's just sort of the reality of bull 1005 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,319 Speaker 2: season in twenty twenty two. But you could see that 1006 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 2: Barry Otom and the entirety of the the Arkansas defense 1007 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 2: really came to play and gave Sean Clifford way too 1008 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:17,280 Speaker 2: much to think about. 1009 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 3: Clifford was, okay, two picks in this game, we mentioned 1010 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 3: Parker Washington still on the field despite the fact that 1011 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,879 Speaker 3: Johan Dotson had opted out. Parker Washington had a great game, 1012 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,440 Speaker 3: had one of those Odell catches. 1013 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:36,720 Speaker 1: It was an amazing catch. 1014 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 3: He led the receiving corps with ninety eight yards seven catches, but. 1015 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: Clifford had two picks. 1016 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 3: We can talk in the off season about whether or 1017 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 3: not he should have come back or announced that he's 1018 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 3: coming back for the twenty twenty two campaign. I have 1019 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 3: thoughts on that, and I thought this game actually was 1020 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,400 Speaker 3: a pretty good microcosm for my feelings on Sean Clifford. 1021 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 3: Like he's not a bad quarterback, it's just like you 1022 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 3: said with k mcnamer, there's a very obvious ceiling, yep, 1023 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 3: and he makes some mistakes started going to cost him. 1024 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 1: Again. 1025 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 3: We'll get into that in the off season. But a 1026 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 3: great win here for Arkansas, great season for Arkansas man 1027 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 3: nine and four, nine and four with this kind of schedule. Granted, 1028 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,880 Speaker 3: some of the teams on that schedule didn't live up 1029 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 3: to the billing. But if you're Sam Pittman man year 1030 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 3: two doing what they did here, if you are a 1031 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,760 Speaker 3: Hogs fan, you gotta be thrilled. What a campaign for them. 1032 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they get Jaden Hazelwood coming in. I'm just 1033 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,720 Speaker 2: a kJ Jefferson super fan, unabashed. He is everything i'd 1034 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 2: like in a quarterback. 1035 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 1: Now. 1036 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 2: Didn't throw a ton obviously against a still pretty strong 1037 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 2: Penn State defense, but his ceiling is tantalizing. 1038 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god. He's incredible. 1039 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 3: Okay, so big win for Arkansas. Let's go over the 1040 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 3: Verbo Citrus Bowl. Kentucky twenty, Iowa seventeen. This one kind 1041 00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,800 Speaker 3: of started off boring in Iowa esque and it's seeming 1042 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 3: like a snoozer. The first half moved very quickly. They 1043 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 3: were three minutes into the third quarter when Notre Dame 1044 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 3: and Oklahoma State went to halftime, and they both kicked 1045 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 3: off at one pm Eastern h This game ended up 1046 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 3: being beautiful in its own way. 1047 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 2: Beautiful. 1048 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, But after that, after that lousy first half, Iowa 1049 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 3: storms back scores fourteen straight points to grab a lead 1050 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,240 Speaker 3: early in the fourth quarter. They held the lead until 1051 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 3: the final minutes, when Kentucky went on an eight play 1052 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 3: eighty five yard drive in just a minute and forty 1053 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,839 Speaker 3: three seconds, due in large part to a great effort 1054 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,280 Speaker 3: from Wandale Robinson hometown kid Wanda. 1055 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hey, gorgeous. Oh he was everywhere gorgeous. 1056 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 3: Fifty two yard catch and run that set up a 1057 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:54,359 Speaker 3: Christopher Rodriguez six yard score for the win. Iowa did 1058 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,919 Speaker 3: its thing, you know, finished with seven sacks. They had 1059 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,840 Speaker 3: Will Levis running for his life pretty much the entire game. 1060 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 3: And I got a credit iowas offense because they did 1061 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 3: show flashes of creativity and looked the lot better. Yep, 1062 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 3: in the second half, still only scored seventeen points. Let's 1063 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,240 Speaker 3: not get two carried away here. But it was again 1064 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,440 Speaker 3: apparent to me that if they want to get creative 1065 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,240 Speaker 3: and if they actually want to do something with their athletes, 1066 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 3: they can, and it's Brian Farren's holding them up, like, 1067 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,440 Speaker 3: please do more of what we saw down the stretch. 1068 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 1: No more play action passes on third and ten. They 1069 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 1: don't work in real life. 1070 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 3: No boring game at the start, but finished off and 1071 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:37,760 Speaker 3: I thought a really exciting fashion. 1072 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, essentially it's Will Levis weathering Iowa, completely 1073 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 2: dominating the offensive line in front of him, and to 1074 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 2: make those plays at the end of the game, to 1075 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 2: lead that drive to make plays that was crazy impressive. 1076 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,480 Speaker 2: Kentucky shorthanded at least on defense. But I think what 1077 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 2: Cavasi Smoke didn't play in this game. No Josh Ali, 1078 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,719 Speaker 2: So they're down a bunch of dudes that would have 1079 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 2: contributed to a win. And fortunately for Kentucky they have 1080 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,319 Speaker 2: that game ending drive. And you're right, Iowa did open 1081 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,879 Speaker 2: things up impressively enough. Any of the throwback stuff they 1082 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 2: ran the ball, well, just not enough. There's just too 1083 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:15,760 Speaker 2: many long stretches of Iowa offensive malaise to win games 1084 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 2: like this. So it was it was a fun watch 1085 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,359 Speaker 2: in that second half. I wish it would have been 1086 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,799 Speaker 2: four quarters of Fun's. 1087 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,840 Speaker 3: Go over to the trans Perfect Music City Bowl. Another 1088 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,280 Speaker 3: fun one, Dan, This one went to overtime, Yes it did. 1089 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,760 Speaker 3: This wasn't fun with a qualifier. This was just fun period. 1090 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 3: Ninety three points, close to thirteen hundred yards, A ton 1091 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 3: of big chunk plays. 1092 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:39,439 Speaker 1: In this one. 1093 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 3: I had a Tennessee minus five bet so I was 1094 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 3: on the edge of my seat here Tennessee got screwed. 1095 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 1: Did you see the end of this? 1096 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,719 Speaker 2: Yeah? I have mixed thoughts. I mean, the guy was 1097 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,239 Speaker 2: pulled forward into the end zone, which is a penalty, 1098 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 2: So I don't know how I feel, but continue. 1099 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:00,440 Speaker 1: Here's the text. 1100 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 3: Okay, first overtime period, Jalen Wright, the ball carrier for Tennessee, 1101 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,319 Speaker 3: whistled down just short of the goal line on fourth down. 1102 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 3: The call to quick whistle, for sure, a quick wit. 1103 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 3: It was a very quick whistle. The call in the 1104 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 3: field is that his forward progress had been stopped just 1105 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 3: before he reached the ball over the line with the 1106 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 3: second effort. They reviewed it, but forward progress is like 1107 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:30,200 Speaker 3: almost never overturned. That's impossible to overturn, right. I thought 1108 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,360 Speaker 3: it was a terrible call. I thought it was awful. 1109 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 3: It was a quick whistle. I understand why they can't 1110 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 3: overturn that with replay, but they should have given Tennessee 1111 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 3: the touchdown. They may not have won, but it should 1112 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 3: have been a touchdown. In so doing, Purdue ends up 1113 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 3: going to win the game with a field forty eight 1114 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 3: to forty five. Hell of a win for them. This 1115 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 3: is a good game. They were without David Bell, without 1116 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,360 Speaker 3: George Carl loftis so to do what they did this 1117 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,120 Speaker 3: season and then to win this bowl game against It's 1118 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,439 Speaker 3: a good SEC team and a good quarterback and Hendon 1119 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,880 Speaker 3: Hooker had five touchdowns at three seventy eight passing. 1120 00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,480 Speaker 2: Yes, Cedric Tillman was ridiculous. 1121 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,320 Speaker 3: Not a lot of defense here, but Jeff Bram again 1122 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,399 Speaker 3: leads the Spoiler makers to victory. They finished nine and four, 1123 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 3: which is just a remarkable campaign that nobody saw coming 1124 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,640 Speaker 3: at the start of the year. So credit to them 1125 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 3: where it's due. 1126 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 2: I certainly did not. I am raising my hand. I 1127 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 2: did not see this team as an eight and eight 1128 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 2: win regular season team with a bowl win over a 1129 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,080 Speaker 2: dangerous Tennessee team. That would have surprised me if you 1130 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,920 Speaker 2: told me that in August. And yeah, good for Purdue 1131 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 2: for weathering their own mistakes, Aidan O'Connell threw what three picks? Yep, 1132 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 2: they're able to. I mean they were up in this 1133 00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 2: game late and so game goes to overtime and get 1134 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,400 Speaker 2: the stop they need and win it. I don't know 1135 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 2: what to say. I mean like it was a quick whistle. 1136 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 2: I understand the controversy from that call, if anything. And 1137 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 2: I saw our friend Chrispy Brown, who is a biased 1138 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,480 Speaker 2: Purdue alum, but saying it's it was a quick whistle. 1139 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,560 Speaker 2: If you want to call the penalty as well, then 1140 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 2: it's fourth and seven or whatever, and Tennessee has one 1141 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 2: more chance to get it because you're allowed to push 1142 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 2: but not pull a ball carrier. So I don't know. 1143 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,920 Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's good TV for me, 1144 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 2: And I understand if you're a Tennessee fan if you're pissed, 1145 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 2: and I understand if you're a Perdue fan, thinking whatever 1146 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,800 Speaker 2: wins and win onward. 1147 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, the future is bright for both these teams. By 1148 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 3: the way, Hendon Hooker coming back. 1149 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 1150 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 3: For Tennessee, he was one of, if not the most 1151 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 3: efficient passers in all the nation, and more talent on 1152 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 3: the way at the quarterback position, especially for the Perdue 1153 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:36,680 Speaker 3: boiler Makers. 1154 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 1: So a lot to like, a lot to be excited about. 1155 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 3: As they win the Music City Bowl. Let's stick with 1156 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 3: more Big ten teams in Bowl action. The SRS Las 1157 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:51,600 Speaker 3: Vegas Bowl between Wisconsin and Arizona State. Wisconsin has seven 1158 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 3: point lead with nine to fifty seven left in the game, 1159 00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 3: and they got the ball back on their own three 1160 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 3: yard line and then they ran an eighteen play drive 1161 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 3: that burned off the entire remaining quarter to seal the 1162 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 3: w They didn't even score, They didn't even score, They. 1163 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,440 Speaker 1: Just burned off, just sat on them. It burned it off. 1164 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 3: Arizona State was without their top two running backs in 1165 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 3: this game, which sort of made it impossible for them 1166 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 3: to score. They didn't really have much in the way 1167 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 3: of offense. Brailen Allen Big Game one point fifty nine 1168 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,520 Speaker 3: had the MVP Award for this game. 1169 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1170 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,480 Speaker 3: I don't know if this was a huge surprise. It 1171 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 3: sort of went the way I expected. And a credit 1172 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 3: to Wisconsin on finishing nine to four. It's a great 1173 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 3: story despite starting out one to three. 1174 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 2: I mean, Graham Martz completing seventy percent of his passes 1175 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 2: and having success downfield a bit of a surprise to me. 1176 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,160 Speaker 2: Braylen Allen running like he did, not a surprise. Wisconsin 1177 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:50,840 Speaker 2: winning this game in the manner in which they did 1178 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:55,400 Speaker 2: against a shorthanded ASU not a big surprise. And yeah, 1179 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 2: good for Wisconsin given the struggles that they had early 1180 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,560 Speaker 2: on in the season to finish it out with a 1181 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,080 Speaker 2: Bowl win against a big team. And I'm not gonna 1182 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 2: say the Vegas Bawl is all that big, but win 1183 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:06,280 Speaker 2: is better than a loss. 1184 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely, two more games here to discuss. Let's go over 1185 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:15,160 Speaker 3: to the tax Slayer Gator Bowl Wake Forest thirty eight 1186 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,600 Speaker 3: Rutgers ten Rutgers was a late addition to this game 1187 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 3: because A and M had to back out. They came 1188 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 3: in as a seventeen point dog, and they lasted about 1189 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,520 Speaker 3: a quarter until this one started getting out of hand. 1190 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 3: In fairness, it was sort of an impossible ask, like, 1191 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 3: come on, right, what did we really expect here? Three 1192 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,760 Speaker 3: hundred and four yards and three touchdowns for Sam Hartman, 1193 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,320 Speaker 3: A big game for at Perry, who had ten catchers 1194 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,440 Speaker 3: for a buck twenty seven and a touch. Wake Forest 1195 01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:48,240 Speaker 3: eleven wins for just the second time. Amazing in program history. 1196 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 1: Good on them. 1197 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 2: One of the more brutal fun offenses to watch in 1198 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 2: wake Forest. But Wake to eleven wins. Do whatever gets 1199 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,480 Speaker 2: you there? Who am I to judge? 1200 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:00,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1201 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,680 Speaker 2: Great for wake I mean, I don't know how far 1202 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,040 Speaker 2: back we didn't have. We talked about Oregon, Oklahoma? We 1203 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,440 Speaker 2: did how far did we? I forget all of these things? 1204 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,080 Speaker 2: And we talked about like to carry and Joiner in 1205 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 2: South Carolina being a surprise quarterback. I forget all of 1206 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,560 Speaker 2: these things. But yeah, what else? What do we have left? 1207 01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:18,920 Speaker 2: The Tony the Tiger Sunbull. 1208 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 3: Tony the Tiger Sun bowl Man, Central Michigan wins twenty 1209 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:27,040 Speaker 3: four to twenty one weird circumstance here as well. Central 1210 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 3: Michigan the Chippewas originally slated for the Arizona Bowl, but 1211 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 3: they ended up in this one because Miami backed out. 1212 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 3: And nobody says no to that Tony the Tiger money. 1213 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,600 Speaker 3: If you have the chance, it comes Colin. Nobody says 1214 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:44,439 Speaker 3: no to Tony the Tiger. Sort of a surprising outcome here, 1215 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 3: to be honest, especially since Central Michigan had short notice 1216 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,440 Speaker 3: to get prepped for Wazoo, and Wazuo had played hard 1217 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,520 Speaker 3: all season for Jake Dickard. And it didn't help that 1218 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 3: Jade and Lauren got hurt here. But sure, and the 1219 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,720 Speaker 3: bit I saw they just didn't play well. They were 1220 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,680 Speaker 3: out of sink. Central jumped out to a twenty one 1221 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:07,480 Speaker 3: to nil halftime lead and sort of milked it, sort 1222 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 3: of milked it to end up getting the dubbed twenty 1223 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 3: four to twenty one. 1224 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,920 Speaker 2: Did was that intentional with Tony the Tiger and frosted 1225 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 2: flakes and milking it? Was that a thing that you 1226 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:15,960 Speaker 2: thought it wasn't a bit? 1227 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:16,760 Speaker 1: That was not a bit? 1228 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 2: No, Now, that's how much of a pro you are 1229 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,840 Speaker 2: that you were just in the mindset and the right 1230 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:28,280 Speaker 2: wars just happened to be on the tip of your tongue. 1231 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:28,280 Speaker 1: Not a bit, I promise. 1232 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, good, good for the Chips. You know, I'm anti 1233 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 2: Chip because of a personal thing from a long time 1234 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 2: ago where I feel like the wrestling team stole a microphone, 1235 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 2: uh transmitter of mine. But uh, you know, to short 1236 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,480 Speaker 2: notice take on a new opponent, it's can't be easy. 1237 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,640 Speaker 2: And good for Jim mckawain and the chipwas I don't 1238 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:52,560 Speaker 2: believe he was doused with anything like sweet frosted flake 1239 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 2: milk from a Gatorade cooler. There was nothing. 1240 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,959 Speaker 1: I think he had frosted flakes poured on him. Didn't 1241 01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:57,600 Speaker 1: he was? 1242 01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 2: Were they frosted flakes? Okay? Good for him, that doesn't 1243 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:00,040 Speaker 2: seem so. 1244 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 3: Did you want to talk about the Mayo and we 1245 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 3: mentioned it because we were recording oh wow during the show. 1246 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,840 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, during the show, we were giving live updates 1247 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:13,120 Speaker 3: in on demand Universe what was transpiring between North Carolina 1248 01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,920 Speaker 3: and South Carolina. We mentioned that Shane Biemer was going 1249 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,840 Speaker 3: to get the Mayo bath. They almost knocked him out. 1250 01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 3: I don't know if he saw that. 1251 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they nailed him on the head. You made 1252 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,520 Speaker 2: some sort of joke on Twitter about entering the Mayo 1253 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:25,600 Speaker 2: concussion protocol. 1254 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,720 Speaker 3: Correct, they needed to give it a bit of a 1255 01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 3: jolt in order to get that Mayo out. They claimed 1256 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:34,480 Speaker 3: to have watered it down, but nonetheless, yeah, it was sludgy. 1257 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,920 Speaker 3: It was definitely a bit hairy there for a second. 1258 01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:41,080 Speaker 3: South Carolina wins thirty eight to twenty one over North Carolina, 1259 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,800 Speaker 3: continuing the charmed season for Frank Beemer. You mentioned the 1260 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 3: surprise Shane Biemer, but Frank Biemer probably had a good 1261 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 3: time too, I said, Frank, I meant change to carry 1262 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:56,680 Speaker 3: and Joyner whom you mentioned earlier, nine for nine as 1263 01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:00,400 Speaker 3: a quarterback with one hundred and sixty yards passing. 1264 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,640 Speaker 2: And yeah one touch. Amazing story on the day. 1265 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,720 Speaker 3: Big effort on the ground for Kevin Harris who had 1266 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,520 Speaker 3: a buck eighty two here. So Sam Hall announced he's 1267 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,200 Speaker 3: going pro. Not really a big surprise there, but did 1268 01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 3: play in this game. 1269 01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:17,080 Speaker 2: Shane Beemer calling out was it Dennis Dodd after the game, yep, 1270 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:21,760 Speaker 2: calling him miserable, YEP, calling him miserable, Which I've met 1271 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 2: Dennis Dodd. He seems like a nice enough dude to me. 1272 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,080 Speaker 2: But because I guess he picked against South Carolina in 1273 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,120 Speaker 2: a big way to in August whatever. Ahead of the season, 1274 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,760 Speaker 2: South Carolina was an absolute surprise team, both to make 1275 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,280 Speaker 2: it to a bowl and to win a bowl like 1276 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,680 Speaker 2: they did, and the fact that they did the reverse 1277 01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:43,240 Speaker 2: of the usual narrative of Okay, this quarterback's not working out, 1278 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:47,480 Speaker 2: he's now playing linebacker, he's now all over the field 1279 01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 2: at safety, whatever. The fact that they bring into Kerry 1280 01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:55,240 Speaker 2: and Joyner as a quarterback, a much heralded high school quarterback, 1281 01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:59,080 Speaker 2: plays receiver for three years. Line him up at receiver 1282 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,920 Speaker 2: during the twenty minute it's a media availability at practice 1283 01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 2: earlier in the week, and then start him at quarterback. 1284 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 2: Who is what the third or fourth quarterback to play 1285 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:11,160 Speaker 2: for South Carolina and have him wildly succeed. I love 1286 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:12,480 Speaker 2: that inverted narrative. 1287 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,480 Speaker 3: It's amazing and you got to be excited if you're 1288 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 3: a South Carolina fan because, oh yeah, support is on 1289 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:21,560 Speaker 3: the way right Spencer Ratler. We'll see which direction things 1290 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:23,919 Speaker 3: go there. But this is a team that played hard 1291 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:28,120 Speaker 3: for Shane Beemer and probably Frank as well. So sure 1292 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,479 Speaker 3: more to come in the South Carolina story. The Shane 1293 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,760 Speaker 3: Beemer higher though looking like it's paying some early dividends 1294 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,240 Speaker 3: anything further Dan before we let the fine people go here. 1295 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, is there any like sort of draft 1296 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 2: declaration or coach movement or anything like that, any news 1297 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,680 Speaker 2: item that stands out to you? Or is that something 1298 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,360 Speaker 2: we want to save for a future show to drill 1299 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:50,240 Speaker 2: down on a little deep. 1300 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,840 Speaker 3: We need off season content, man, Yeah, that's true, we 1301 01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,560 Speaker 3: didn't need, so we're gonna save that until we have 1302 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,040 Speaker 3: more to offer. Don't forget to go on out to 1303 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,240 Speaker 3: our website cliverrabl dot com again for more information how 1304 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:05,479 Speaker 3: you can get our past shows. Please do subscribe, rate 1305 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,600 Speaker 3: review like, tell your friends about our podcast out on 1306 01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:15,040 Speaker 3: Apple and Spotify, follow along on social media, follow along 1307 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:19,560 Speaker 3: on YouTube at YouTube dot com, slash the Solid verbal, 1308 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,480 Speaker 3: and don't forget to go on out to solid giveaway 1309 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:23,080 Speaker 3: dot com. 1310 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:24,280 Speaker 1: That's where you can get. 1311 01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 3: Your name in the hat to win that Desmond Howard 1312 01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 3: signed Minnie helmet. That contest is ongoing for about another 1313 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:33,960 Speaker 3: week or so. 1314 01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,120 Speaker 2: Did you eat well? You asked me what my watch 1315 01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 2: setup and eating set up was. How'd you do you know? 1316 01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,440 Speaker 1: Not really? Ah, I had a COVID scare. 1317 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,280 Speaker 3: I know you're feeling okay now though, I'm okay, but 1318 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 3: I thought I had it. I thought I caught it. 1319 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,000 Speaker 3: Thankfully I didn't, but I was feeling out of sorts 1320 01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 3: and therefore wasn't going to go out and be around 1321 01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,640 Speaker 3: people and pick up food or any of that stuff. 1322 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 3: Did the responsible thing and we pulled the move where 1323 01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 3: we made two kuliflower pizzas in the oven. 1324 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 1: Oh no, on New Year's Day. 1325 01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,560 Speaker 2: So you gotta go big for the National Championship. 1326 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,440 Speaker 3: That for the National Championship, it will be like a 1327 01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,720 Speaker 3: feast of King Arthur and the Knights of the Roundtable. 1328 01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:17,120 Speaker 1: Good. 1329 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 2: I love to hear that. 1330 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,200 Speaker 3: I have not decided yet what that will be, but 1331 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,560 Speaker 3: we've got a week to decide. Dan, don't forget. We 1332 01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:27,360 Speaker 3: will be doing our National Championship preview over the course 1333 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,240 Speaker 3: of the next week. We will be doing something I'm 1334 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 3: sure for the National Championship as well. So stay tuned 1335 01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,680 Speaker 3: here if you like the verbal for that guy over there, 1336 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,320 Speaker 3: my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hill and 1337 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,120 Speaker 3: the brand. Thanks for downloading, listening, playing along at home. 1338 01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:43,920 Speaker 3: We'll be back in a few short days. In the meantime, 1339 01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 3: as always, stay solid, peace,