WEBVTT - Steve Cohen Talks David Stearns, Francisco Lindor, Juan Soto & 2026 Mets | 584 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.200 What is up, Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:03.760 of the Mets Stuff Podcast. 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:06.400 Pretty terrible, serious against the Blue Jays. 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:07.800 I mean, this is what's gonna happen the rest of 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:10.600 the year, the twenty twenty six seasons over. It's shocking 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:12.760 me that there's still people getting upset watching this team. 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:16.160 I have fully gone into future mode right now. Everything 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:18.280 our owners said in a podcast kind of told us 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:20.400 that we should be thinking about the future. Everything our 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:23.040 president baseball operations seems to tell us that we should 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:24.800 be thinking about the future. So that's how I'm looking 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:26.520 at it for the rest of the season. What are 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:28.560 we looking at with these players? How are they doing? 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:30.800 And there were some good there were some bad. There's, 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:32.519 of course, things to talk about before we get going 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:34.239 into it. Make sure you guys are subscribed to met 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:36.559 Stuff over on YouTube and if you're listening to us 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.400 Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google drops a rat and drops review 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.200 download subscribe. Big shout to all you guys two loved 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:45.519 the EC three live watch along. Shout to Chris Hamblin 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:47.839 We love you. Saw that he's saying the Star Spangled 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:51.960 banner at our Royals game. Unbelievable stuff. Electric content. Hopefully 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.200 we get to make more of it. But talking baseball 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.720 here a little bit ten to fifteen minutes, not too 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.560 much again, some crazy stuff going on, and I think 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.520 we have to with how horrible Freddy Perolta was yet again. 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:06.160 Miserable, dreadful. There's like not even enough superlosis right now. 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:09.200 Describe how bad Freddy Perolta is. It's given me. Statistically, 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:10.800 he's one of the worst pitchers in baseball. Is heras 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.920 almost five again, not a huge era podcast when you 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:15.800 look at that. To this point, he's been one of 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.479 the least effective pitchers in baseball. And then you watch 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:20.640 the start and you see the first three hitters of 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:22.679 the game, reach and a run coming home where he 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.200 has two of those hitters in the two strike situation, 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:29.000 cannot put them away. He got, I think, afraid of 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.240 his of his change up. He missed a change up 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:33.320 to Nathan Lucas and then through six more pitches now 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.800 that Bath that got fouled off, just missed. Didn't even 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.039 mess around with another change up to him, couldn't put 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:40.840 them away. Later in the horrible four run you know, 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:43.560 Paraje and the third inning, all with two outs, mind you, 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.920 he then missed a two strike curveball Nerdi Clement and 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:48.800 then threw him a fastball on the zone. He just 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.680 is a picture right now who is completely shattered confidence whatsoever. 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:56.600 Can't believe how bad he continues to be, because unfathomable, 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:58.640 I thought he got better after the last start. We 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:00.960 saw the velo tick up again at times in this one, 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.560 like he's throwing harder and yet it's not making any 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:06.520 sort of difference. He just with two strikes, he completely 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.919 chokes up with a guy with two outs in the inning. 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:10.840 He can't get through it. 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:14.240 Like every single opportunity where you would think as a pitcher, 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:15.960 you're in the driver's seat, this is where you should 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:17.919 be getting fat, this is where you should be salivating. 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.960 Freddie Perultz seemingly crumbles every single time, And I just 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.320 I don't know if he's ever gonna be a big 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:26.120 game picture in a big market like he's supposed to. 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.840 Be, And like that's that's probably a reductive way to 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:30.480 look at this. But at the same time, you watch 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:32.240 it and you're like, how is this real? How is 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:33.880 this happening? But this also seems like it's been a 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:36.160 problem with this whole Mets team. This year, Like right 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:39.520 now live, I'm pulling up the the era of pitchers 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.079 with two outs, which is that's something that our friend 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.080 friend of the podcast, Matt Eddie put us onto as 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.440 we're watching the game today. How bad Freddie's been with 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.880 two outs? If I look at the highest Thera's a 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:50.960 two athlete the boy again, reductive way to go about this. 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.400 But right at the top I see David Peterson, Tobias 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:55.520 Myers both inside the top ten, and if you ask 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:57.600 me that, Christian Scott also is in the top thirty. 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:59.040 So if you would have asked me that, I'd been like, yeah, 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:02.560 that actually that kind of feels like it's antotally uh, 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:05.080 what's it supported in my mind? Now, I'm just gonna 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.200 quick name sarch Freddy. It's gonna be way higher after this. 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.600 But Freddy Pralta has nearly a five er with two outs. 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.640 That's so fathomable, there's just no way, and that it 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:15.799 only comes with two twenty six batting average, but that's 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.320 with a three fifty on base percentage. That's how he 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.320 goes walks and nibbles with two outs. And this is 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.040 gonna be worse, much worse after today. 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.160 Yeah, because he just can't seem to stop the bleeding, 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.360 even though there was no bleeding until there was. 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:29.200 It's just a complete mess. 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:30.840 And I feel like the worst part about this is 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:33.280 I think anybody around the league telling you that his 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.600 trade value hasn't gone down is lying to you one 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:37.440 hundred percent. If you're a team around the league watching 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:39.480 him pitch, this is not the Freddie Perlta that we 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:41.600 saw coming into the season. This is not the Freddie 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.520 Perlta you could have even expected for a little bit. 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:46.360 This has been the worst version of him that he's 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:49.840 been basically since he was a rookie. I don't know 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:51.920 what his trade value is gonna look like right now, 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.440 just because this is not a playoff pitcher for a 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.200 team that's competing for for a championship down the line, 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:58.360 it probably isn't. 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.520 But at the same time, like last with three last year, 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:04.280 Shane Bieber got a boider Line top hundred prospect, and 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.000 he was he hadn't pitched in a year, and the 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.080 last time he pitched he wasn't even good. He was 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.040 going through a massive minor league rehab stint. I think 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.600 that's something I think if teams are looking at Freddy Prawlton. 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:15.000 They're going to look at the forensics of Fredday Pralton. 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.200 How can we fix And one of the most worrisome 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:20.440 things is how much shorter Freddy Pewlt's extension is this year. 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.680 He's lost like a quarter of a corler for the extension. 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.240 That that's a ton, that's something that kind of always 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:29.200 made him great. And at the same time a lot 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:31.680 to his arm slot is way down. And then we've 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.120 seen these big velocity gradients. Then you have the slight 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:36.640 worry about injury. That's the thing that could really be 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:40.040 detrimental to his trade value. I'm not exactly. Again, last year, 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.840 starting pitching market, it didn't it didn't matter as long 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.240 as you have a heartbeat, a pulse and you could 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.040 throw a pitch, not even tomorrow, as long as you 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:48.920 could throw a pitch. By the postseason a team wanted 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:51.039 because that's the Shane Bieber, Merrill Kelly. That was it. 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.480 So I think he still does have tremendous trade value. 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.159 I agree that's less, but I would not say it's none. 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.080 I mean it's probably a borderline top one hundred guy. 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:00.520 That's probably the max right. 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:02.600 Probably, yeah, maybe a little better than that. Boilerl and 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:05.560 top hundred guy and a lot of re ticket maybe guy, yeah, 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.599 someone in the eighties and a lot of re ticket. 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:09.440 I feel like if you're the Mets, you're hoping that 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:10.840 he has a good start on his next one and 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:12.000 you try to ship him out as soon as you 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:12.600 possibly can. 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.400 Just any any way, we can get Pedro Ramirez off 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.640 the cups. That's the only that's the guys. The guy 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:19.359 by far I want the most in all baseball that 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:20.960 seems to make a little bit, and they're desperate. They 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.120 just gave us a second round pick for David Peterson. 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:24.560 Come on, that's a good point. That's a good point. 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:27.080 Let's keep him moving. Think about positive think about that 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:29.800 curve for a second. But again, like it's just it feels. 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:32.080 I mean, those physical things I just mentioned, those are real. 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.680 The major philosophy bands peaked in this game ninety nine 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.440 miles per hour. Yes, fastball men was ninety one point nine. 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:39.320 Can't have this and he can throw a slyther And 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.800 this wasn't the heaviest left handed lineup by the Blue 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.560 Jays either. I think maybe sometimes the curveball in the 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:47.919 slider tagging gets a little mixed up but that was 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.479 Faddy's bread and butter for a very long time, and 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.919 the fact that it's just completely disappeared is not It 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:55.200 just doesn't make me feel nice. 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.320 No, it's concerning to see him pitch this poorly, but 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.039 it's not gonna pitch for us very much longer, so 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.480 I guess it doesn't really matter or how poorly he pitches. 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.440 Honestly, I'm looking at some of these other two. I 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:05.160 can't wait till this updates tomorrow and I could check 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:08.359 this out. But these other two strike stats highest era 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.200 in baseball with two strikes. Tryang, guess the pitcher and 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:15.039 the number. The pitcher and the number. Shure, I'm out there. 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:19.880 Give me Jake Irvin and eight three eight three this 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:21.280 is with this with two strikes. Don't you remember the 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:23.360 Fullish baseball any with two strikes? I thought you said 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:26.360 two outs, No, two strikes strikes? Okay, so who can't 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:27.400 strike anybody out? I don't know. 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.279 Still give me Jake Irvin and give me a His 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:32.799 era is a three nine. 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:37.800 Jake Irvan actually is slightly better than average. Again, okay, dump, Yeah, 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.880 he's actually in between Christian Scott and Spencer Miles with 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.960 the Metchasattes, Spencer Miles look nice. Yeah, Chrismiles has a 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:47.680 little bit of stuff. It is Andrew Painter sense, but 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.760 it's only one seven eight two strikes are pretty amazing, Spier. 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.560 But somehow Hyter's have a three to twelve on base 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:56.920 percentage against Andrew Painter with two strikes and sometimes not Freddy. 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:58.760 Somehow it's not even the worst in the league, Freddie's 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.600 Freddy's is either again, it'll be worse after we get 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:04.680 these updates. Freddie before the game, it's a one eighty two, 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:08.000 two fifty five three eighteen triple slash with a one 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:10.560 point five ERA with two strikes, and those are all 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:12.680 Those are all bad, but they're not like the worst 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:14.520 in the league. And d way fangref sets this up 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.800 as the minimum of twenty pitches twenty innings. That's not bad. Yeah, 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:21.000 it's fine. Again, it is bad, but yeah, it's bad. 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:22.840 It's just bad. It doesn't actually really matter. 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:24.800 And then uh CNL prez giving up a home run 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.600 to Miles Straw was really like, make me follow my 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:28.120 knees moment. 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:29.200 How do you give up a home run? How does 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.840 he have three home runs? Miles Straw milestrows swinging a 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:33.240 little bit. That was also because, like I think Joe 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.120 Gerber had like either it was either hangnail or a 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.080 blister and he had to come out like like two 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.200 pitches into the inning. The whole thing is just Also 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:41.960 Joey Gerber had been like encouraging me slightly lately. I'd 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:43.320 like his color and then he gets He's like, oh, 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:46.160 finger gotta come out of game. As I began to 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.119 listen to the show with John Hayman and Joe Sherman, 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:49.800 I was really starting to get into that. It's a 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.320 big talking point. This series just sucks. It's just what 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.200 bad teams do. You go into Toronto a team that 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:56.120 lost six games in row at home and you lose 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.880 the series. The door swinging it, well, of course he's 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:00.520 gonna be fine, like he's got and I wound up 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:02.080 being fine. Boba sheet is going to one. Oh we 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.680 talk about Boba Schev for a second. The crying. Yes, 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:08.160 I hated it. I definitely also hated it. I have 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:11.280 like a Eric Chavez take here, like a real, real 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:12.280 Eric Chavas take. 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:16.200 That was real, fucking like soft loser shit. I can't 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:16.760 handle that. 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:20.560 That was openly a player who hates being here realized 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:21.280 they made a mistake. 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:23.480 Yeah, big time realized they made a mistake, and how 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.000 good he had it? Like I think it's also it's 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.240 really nice of your Blue Jays Fantasy Boba sheet react 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:30.000 like that, like damn, he really loved playing here as 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.240 a Met fan. It's like, oh, kind of fuck you 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:32.800 a little bit. 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:34.880 So this whole season doesn't exist to me as well, 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.240 I guess, But we also don't even know what the 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:39.840 pretext was. Did Bo even get off of the contract 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:41.640 by the Blue Jays? What that contract even looked like? 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:45.000 It kind of seemed like they made have motivated to 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.079 move on. Also, it was nice to see like him 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.120 interact with the old teammates, like Flatty was like they 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:51.400 take take your helmet off, give a curtain call. And 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:53.640 then even the second game of this series, I've never 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:57.480 ever seen back to back days there be curtain calls 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:01.040 for a visiting player where Kevin goswin series. He did again, 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:02.840 I think they give him a lot of credit for that, 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.080 And I also think that's where most of the crying 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:07.840 came from. Honestly, probably I think being like the last 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:09.720 time I played the baseball game on this field. It 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.760 was the worst moment of my life, best and worst. Yeah, 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:14.679 he had the home run off show was probably the 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:18.040 peak of Bobachhet's entire career. And then again, nothing that 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.520 he did to stop that game. But there was some 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:22.680 you know, bulky knees coming around third base. He could 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:26.319 the whole Crazy World Series hit. Absolutely hated it too. 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:28.560 It sent it to you use some different words. Yeah, 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:30.200 but it's because it's just like there's a player who 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:32.319 you can't see. And again, I don't think this is 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.120 bleeding into his play. He's been one of the most 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:36.800 productive players in baseball for thirty days now, and he's 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:38.840 playing great defense at third base, had a great series 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:42.520 defensively here, He's gonna wind up having fine stats by 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:45.040 the end of the season. So it's just he seems 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:46.960 like he may be wishing that his home was still 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:48.360 somewhere else. Is he opting out at the end of 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.480 the year. I think, honestly, maybe, I think he is. 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:54.520 I'm very much leaning. I'm seventy five percent. Yes, I'm 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.120 starting to push there mentally too, just because the way 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:00.920 he's playing third base, he looks like he could. It 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:02.959 looks like if you squint, he's a plus defensive third basement, 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:04.520 which is amazing if we would have said that early 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:05.920 in the season and had this all wound up. But 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:10.080 unlike Freddy, I feel like that was the biggest question 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:11.320 mark coming into the season for Bows. 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.360 Could he play another position. He's shown that he can 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.520 play third base completely fine, and I think people don't 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.640 think the hitting is as sticky as his defense is sticky. 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.720 So a down year offensive maybe cost him a couple 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:24.200 of million dollars a year, but I don't think it 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:25.320 changes the market. 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:26.920 If anything, it's going to be better than it was. 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.520 Because he can't play third and a down year offensively, 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:31.040 I feel like by the end of the season we're 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:35.200 looking at like a two seventy three twenty you know, 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:38.280 seven to sixty Yeah, seven sixty ops kind of slash line. 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:39.640 I'm trying to do Matt there and it just wasn't 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.200 working in my brain as a plus third basement like that, 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:44.840 the David Searn's vision of him being like a three 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:46.800 to five win player is going to wind up being 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:48.720 totally true. If it's just a best suck. If we 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.520 got good Bobaschett in the first quartery of the season 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:53.360 and good Freddy Pearl to the next quartery of the season, 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.160 this team again will be near five hundred. But those 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:56.079 things did not happen. 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:58.240 No, they can't match up at the same time. Other 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:01.000 thing to talk about from the games too, just bigger conversation. 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:05.360 The Wan Soda defensive play almost immediately after we mentioned, 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:07.880 oh he hasn't been that bad in the outfield, the 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:10.160 wan so defensive play, and then a j Ewing doing 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:11.760 his best to try and save the day, just kicking 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:13.000 the ball, like, yeah, that's. 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:16.040 You want to assessment. As Michael confordo flashbacks, I've never 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:18.800 seen this. This is gonna be Tim Kirschen for a second. 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:20.680 I've never seen a thirty six year old inside the 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:22.240 park home run where when they crossed home plate the 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:23.240 ball was still in the outfield. 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.880 Yeah, it was crazy how not even close to the 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:27.520 Mets were to getting George Springer who looked like he 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:29.320 was going to pass out after he turned first base. 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:31.240 And the worst part is you'd lose because of that run, 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:32.319 Like it felt like it was going to be a 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:33.760 game where you got run out of the ballpark and 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.120 you literally lost because of that play. Yeah, No, it 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:40.240 was that one hurt and then the Lindor error freaking 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:44.520 out with Andy Green thoughts opinions on that real quick, 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:46.240 because again when we talk about the show, I guess 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.120 we will talk about Lindor and Soto a little bit 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:50.160 more because we have to because it was addressed by 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:54.040 the team owner. Again. But yeah, we had some conversations 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:57.120 off air about that, and like talking to some people 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.760 who kind of have more been in those situations about 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:03.480 the competition. Yeah, kind of costing your teammate and opportunity 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.480 to get through an inning, and that's basically what then 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.720 door data sham and I there it was probably more 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:11.440 and not it didn't manifest itself in the right way, 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:14.200 but much more frustration seemed like with Francisco Inndoor himself. 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.160 Then yes, the decision being made, but it did come 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.920 off as being a bit insubordinate and a little bit braddy. 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.160 I also think that, yeah, Lindor has to do a 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:24.560 better job of keeping his emotions in check there, and 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:26.440 we have seen him every once in a while, especially 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.480 when things are not going well for the team and himself, 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.000 he will have these like little bursts. We saw it 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:34.080 early in the season in twenty twenty four when he 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:36.800 argued with an umpire, which we'd never seen before, went. 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:38.760 Ballistics, slammed the glve on the ground, just slam the 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:39.360 glove on the ground. 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.319 We've seen him scream at Jeff manhal like, there definitely 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:44.520 are moments where the bursts come out. Could have handled 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:47.280 it better, But I do think very much obviously like 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:49.160 knowing the context of what was going on, that was 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:50.360 not angry at Andy Green. 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.440 That was more like, please let him finish. It was 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.800 my fault, not his. Yes, and again didn't manifest in 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.160 the right way, but came from the right place. 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.600 Which is now gonna lead into talk talking about the 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:02.520 show by Joel Sherman and John Hayman. 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:05.360 No live watch path of this one. This time. I 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.200 feel like some of the people were like, oh, can 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:08.880 you guys do this more often? Hard to Again, I 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:10.280 think we'll get back to the games. I still want 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:11.839 to talk about Nolan McLain a little bit, and then 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.240 sure I do eventually want to talk about that ninth 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.960 ending watching Ryan Ratio, Mark Fianz just try to hit 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.960 Louis Viarland. 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It's 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.840 John Hym and Joel Sherman, and that had Steve coming 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:29.520 on and one. I even think the concept of that 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.160 is fascinating in this whole context because two years ago, 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:36.320 when the mess determined ad sellers, Steve Cohen called a 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.840 massive press conference add to the field and late Jalloon 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:43.800 j Jaloon jellon late June July afternoon. I remember it 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:45.400 was also hot of shit like it is outside right 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:48.080 now in New York. But this is a little different. 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.040 I even remember I think Brad Marshad, who does a 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.520 lot of them of sports media work for the Athletics, 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.840 said this, like I remember this kind of interview and 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:57.640 we just saw it during all the nick shit, like 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.360 an owner sitting down at w f an. This is 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.160 the Steve Cohen going on a podcast. Kind of fascinating 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:04.360 even just play on this. 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.920 Yeah, and with reporters who are gonna they're gonna ask 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:10.480 some questions, and I was I was shocked at how 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.640 much Steve Cohen said and answered, and I didn't particularly 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:15.480 love that he answered some of them so candidly. 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.360 I also loved the way that Joel Shre and then 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:20.760 John Hayman went about it. They didn't they didn't hold 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:22.680 back any punches. Again, I don't know, maybe something about 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.480 being in that room, but like those guys were pretty 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.960 critical of a lot of stuff, but they all just 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:29.760 everyone just love Mendoza so much, Like they couldn't real 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:31.720 ask him. Was something about Carlos Mendoza. They just couldn't 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:32.560 ask him tough questions. 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:34.640 I think he's just I think he genuinely such a nice, 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:36.640 nice guy and you could tell that, like he was 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.720 eating away at him. And you even heard Steve Cohen 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:40.480 talk about that. Part of the reason why him and 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:44.160 David Stearns decided to move on form Mendoza was because 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:45.760 they weren't going to extend him at the end of 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:47.680 the year. There they made the decisions not coming back, 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:49.400 and I think Steve Cohen said, let's just give this 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:50.000 guy a break. 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.480 Oh he called it a mercy shot. Yeah, Like, and 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:55.400 we kept saying those were in this podcast. 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.800 We said, we're like, just let him go. At this point, 0:15:57.840 --> 0:15:59.960 why is he still here? I flung back in my 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.440 chair when he said that. I just couldn't believe it. 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:05.760