WEBVTT - EP 307: Kinkstruments (Ft. The Naked Trumpeter) 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:10.760 Guess what decision We're about to make a horrible decisions. Hey, guys, welcome, 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:14.280 and when I say welcome, the emphasis is on come 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:19.200 to horrible decisions, baby. And I'm really excited because we 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:20.840 have a guest and we've been wanting to have on 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:22.640 that a lot of you have since in But before 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:25.360 we get to him, let me tell y'all who a bitches, 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:27.680 because I'm that bitch. I'm your girl, Mandy b aka 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:32.280 Panti Starian aka Pull Corporums aka Debt Beach. Hi, I'm wheezy. 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:35.400 Welcome to another episode of Horrible Decisions. We're here shooting 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:38.159 in New York. You know, we've been virtual, we've been 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:40.199 in LA, we've been in the base years, We've been 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.480 doing a lot. So finally we're back in the city 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:45.320 and we're sitting next to a man that I know 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:49.479 from one clip who was the interviewer? Was that the 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:52.960 super duper humble gum who we actually had on who 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:56.800 really your clip to me made that damn? I feel 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:58.880 like everybody found him from that clip, so it was 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.680 so cool to see the guy behind the clip. Everybody 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.600 everybody literally tagged you. And we'll get into also that 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:09.160 clip later. Don't even want to share what it is. Right, No, listen, wait, 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:10.880 what do you mean? Don't share what it now? Because 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.600 it's not read the outline. I got the outline. We 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:15.560 don't even not. I don't want to get into it, 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:17.720 but I want to know how New York was. Let 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:21.280 me let me we have the naked trumpeter in the building, y'all, 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:24.160 we have the naked trumpeter. A ka Eli. We're gonna 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:25.959 go We're gonna go back and forth with it. We're 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:27.920 gonna go back and forth with it because you got 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:29.440 clothes on today. That's what you say. I mean if 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:30.840 you call me naked trumpter, I mean I can get 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:34.640 it addressed. But I don't know. Okay, So we got Eli, Okay, 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:36.640 I don't know. We could closet this on YouTube if 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:41.760 you don't have you have a short time, he said, 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:44.679 I'm free, Wenna, go for nipple. I am, but anyway, 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:47.880 I'm calling um. So before I guess we start and 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.480 get into it. How has New York been treating you? 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:54.800 It's good, Listen, New York always treats me lovely. It's 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:57.600 a great place to be. Why what's so good about it? 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:03.720 How I treat you lately? It's about the physical touch 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:06.280 moment we made you stop saying you know. So what 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.079 I find is like so you all know how you look, 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:10.720 and sometimes you get to be objectified for you have 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.160 a large this or you have a small that. So 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:16.040 last night I just was able to touch someone everywhere 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:19.440 on their body and kind of like the love handles, 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.000 the footpa, the back of the caps, the back of 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:25.000 the knee, of the feet, um, like the turkey wings, 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:29.280 all the parts that most people just like when you're flying. 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.040 But it doesn't matter how how big or small you are. 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:35.040 But as far as touch, most people touch where it 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:39.600 touch you where it's as you're right. So when someone 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.440 touches your entire body, it's a somatic experience. So it 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:44.040 brings you out of your head and then you have 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.880 to think about you don't always want to be ejectified. 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:48.639 You don't want to be oh, I have a big ass, 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:50.400 to just touch me. There. So a lot of times 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.800 when people interact each other only touching certain spots. So 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:55.600 when someone touches you in the place that you may 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:57.600 be uncomfortable, if they do it in a way that 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.760 you can tell like this motherfucker likes this, it makes 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:04.600 you feel away. Wow. Well, what's crazy too is the 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:10.840 things that you do sexually don't always involve penetration, hands 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.640 or twoys at all. The naked trumpeter, You actually really 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.760 play the trumpet? Yeah, I actually have it. You have 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:21.240 the trumpet. I would I would, I ain't gonna hold you. 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:24.520 I would tell you to grab the trumpet. The problem is, 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:27.160 I've seen where you have placed that trumpet, and so 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:31.040 I want to talk about that more than one. That's 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:34.880 why I'm like, yes, this is my personal home, but 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:37.880 I claim the trumpet in the case, sir, I do 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:41.560 want to know. So you play the trumpet, and you 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.120 play the trumpet on It's not like you just played 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.600 at a club, right, you play the trumpet on other things. 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:52.000 Can you please share the first time you pulled the 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.400 trumpet out in a sexual place in what you do 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:59.800 with your trumpet? And why? So listen? Um? The funny 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.960 to tell the story this way. Yeah, the contextually it 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:08.080 wasn't my idea, It wasn't. Oh. I was talking to 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:10.720 my mother and my mother is a dom she's uh 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.440 in the sex work. Um, so she was like, hey, 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:15.640 have you ever thought about putting trumpet on the ladies? 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:17.400 And I was like, no, while I do that. And 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:19.440 she was like, well, is there anything that you do 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.599 as a trumpet player that enhances you sexually? And I 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:23.119 was like, yeah, a lot of stuff. And she was like, well, 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.080 put the trumpet there and let me know how I go. 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:26.920 So I was like, all right, I'll do that. She's 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:33.640 a musician too, No, she's no. I mean she she 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.000 played violin, she played piano, but she's not actively a 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.720 musician at this point. And so I did it in 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:40.960 a session and I was like, and I asked her. 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.160 She like, she's like, I felt like a vibrator. But 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:46.640 it was just different. And so musically, when you give 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.440 give someone the sound by certain frequencies actually responding to 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:51.360 your body a certain way. So when I put it 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.719 over your evolva, it is the equivalent of a vibrator. 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.840 Do you consider it a sound? Bet? It is um 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:58.800 Even when I played trumpet for myself from tuning my 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.920 body with the music, like saying, oh you chant, you're 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:06.800 tuning yourself, but imagining me doing like this, it's the 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.120 same thing. It's a vibrator. So well, I turned my 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.320 mouth into a vibrator. I turned the trump into a vibrator. 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:13.560 If you like vibration. You're gonna enjoy what song gives 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.760 the best response on the pussy It's not really a song, 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:18.680 it's more of a tonguey emotion. Well, he thought you 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:22.680 were playing America's a beautiful No, I said that what 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.880 it was just there? It was actually Daniel Sear Get You. 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.480 That's that's what I was playing. That's what I was 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:30.800 actually playing. You know what's crazy? That is like one 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:34.239 of my favorite records too, fuck Too of all time. 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.159 I had to do a sex playlist and Get You 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:37.920 by Daniel Ceesar, even though I know people try to 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:40.200 cancel him. Is one of those people trying to cancel. 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.920 He was because he talked about something about black woman. 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.679 He was sticking up for somebody online. But he's canceled. 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:48.960 Like nobody folks with Daniel Cesar anymore, and it sucks. 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.560 But I really liked that song. I like everything he does. 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:56.920 And I told you no one's really canceled. Just sh now. 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:00.200 He's some good ship. His music is really fun. Just 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:03.920 get canceled. I gotta get back into you. Get a 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:08.039 Twitter went on yours and that was a really fun hole. 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:10.960 I fell in for thirty minutes. Wow, you spent thirty minutes. 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.640 I was I was on the phone with someone I'm dating, 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:17.920 and I was, I just only new your clips. I 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:19.600 just wanted to look, and you know, we always check 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:21.520 out our guest for an episode. I was like, damn, 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:23.600 this trumpet shit is crazy. And then I kept going 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:26.240 and going, and I think that you had probably the 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.520 widest range of like hitting everything in sex work on 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:34.360 a Twitter that you possibly have as a man. Yeah. Sorry, 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:35.960 I don't know your program, no, no. If you do 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:40.159 have that, if they them. But for me, it's like 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:41.960 I tell people I don't I don't have a persona. 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:45.160 It's like the neket trumpeter is just I'm telling you 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:48.080 that I'm a newdist that plays trumpet. Listen, because you 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.720 do have somewhere you literally are just standing naked playing 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.240 your trumpet too, and there's not another person involved in 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.440 the video, not at all? Right, and what you like? 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:56.800 So you said, um, get you was one of your 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:59.160 favorite songs have sex too? Yeah, think about it this way. 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.320 Attention is something that we all see being humanized. So 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.120 if I'm giving you eye contact and I'm playing a 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.600 song for you, and you recognize the time it took 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.000 for me to actually do that. You recognize the planning 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:13.720 that it took, the execution. So it's intensive. It's being 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.520 attentive in your everyday life. Even if you're dating somebody, 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.400 deal on somebody. How often is someone actually planning and 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:21.360 executing something for you where you all you have to 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.960 do a show up, right, So in my sessions, that's 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.320 what it is. That's basically what it is. It's a conversation. 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.040 What are you like? What are your yeses, your nose, 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.400 what are your fantasies? What things actually turn you on? 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.400 And half of them aren't sexual. It's like most of 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:35.240 the time when you think about do you find that 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.960 that takes more effort? No, if they're non sexualized. No, 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.920 it feels like sex could be easier. I feel like 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.520 in sex work, like if I had to do girlfriend 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:46.760 experience type shit, I feel like I'd be more stressed 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.240 out than just having to have sex. At the end 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:51.080 of the day, you want to be humanized, you know, 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.920 sex is is secondary. Connection is the first thing that's 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:56.880 night needed. So let's say if I wanted to take 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:58.840 both y'all on it the date, I have to convince 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.040 you that I see you as a human. You're used 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.200 to somebody like, oh, she got a fat us, so 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.520 like you, she knows what she's like. You know what 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:07.160 you look like. You know, oh I got this in this. 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:09.280 So if I tell you that, you're like, Okay, I 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:10.840 know I don't look like I put on his outfit. 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:12.920 I put on the makeup, the ear rings. So when 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:14.920 you're able to see somebody's human, it's as their character, 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.400 it's not what they look like. And so for me, 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.720 regardless of what we're doing, when I do that with you, 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:22.720 you're open to everything. The way you get to have 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:24.559 sex on the first date is seeing someone as a human, 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:28.360 not seeing them as anything beyond that, not objectifying them, 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.240 but making them feel felt and seen and heard. And 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:33.240 when you could do that, everything that you could think 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:34.839 that you possibly want to do, you're open to. I 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:38.160 think that's a very mature way to view it, only because, 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:41.600 like I do think now, in dating, everything is so 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:46.280 instant that I don't think that many people do humanize 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.000 the people they date. They objectify first, they look, they 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:52.520 look first, right, so they go after what either makes 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.480 their dick hard or what makes as a woman, what 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:56.559 makes them wet. Like I think we are still very 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.400 visual creatures and I think because of social media and 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:03.240 because of technology, it's removed people from knowing how to 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:07.160 communicate like just humanly. And look, first, I'll say, even 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.360 with my ex, like the best thing that I think 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:13.000 that made him number one in our sex was actually 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:15.720 how he used to stretch me after that was something 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:17.920 that I had never really gotten from another part of partner, 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:21.040 like someone really taking care of I know, I just 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:24.200 fuck the god shit out of you. Let me make 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:27.120 sure that you can still move during the day, so 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.959 let me open up your hips more, let me make 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.079 sure your back isn't hurt. Because but you know, what 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.599 I mean of someone seeing you as a human is 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:36.600 a form of somebody be in intensive right. And I 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.240 think that's what I'm saying. For the most part, I 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:42.120 don't think men are that thoughtful. So I think how 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:46.319 you said, the experience that you had with someone where 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:49.880 you where you gave, you know, intimacy to every part 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:53.200 of their body. A lot of women don't get that treatment. 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:55.280 And you know that because that's why that was very 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.679 special to that person to even be able to feel that. 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.560 I love the think about it. Think about this, if 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:03.720 your only value is the food that you can cook 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:06.079 in your body. That means I only like you for 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:08.480 two things, has nothing to do with you as a human. 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:10.720 If the only time I call you is when I 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:13.720 want to get inside of your body, you recognize what 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:16.360 that is? When when having sessions? Do you ever have 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:19.480 virtual sessions that turn into non sexual and when they 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.040 are virtual? What does that look like? Because in person, 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:26.960 it's really easy to give um, you know, show intimacy 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.360 in ways that may not be like touching genitalia? But 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.400 what about when they're virtual sessions? Are we touching right now? 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:35.560 Don't try to fuck me with y'all, I'm asking you 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:38.839 a question. I'm being serious. Are seriously are we touching 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:41.320 right now? No? How do you feel about the conversation 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:45.040 so far? I mean, I'm enjoying the conversation, but it's 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.360 a genre that I like to speak about. That's neither 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:48.680 here nor there. I'm just saying, how do you feel 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:53.719 about the conversation. I'm being serious, the conversation with all 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.640 three of us. I feel splendid about it right No 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.240 one else in the roomat as I'm talking to you, 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.120 I know, but I'm saying, like, Oh, I like I 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.439 like I like the redness of your cheeks, look, oh 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:07.560 yeah you are. You are getting a little frizzly, bitch. 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.880 Don't get friends. Okay, all right, I was asking something 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:14.480 really specific, and I'm asking that because one of the 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:16.960 only things that I've ever heard of dom or someone 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:20.840 that has sessions virtually do was ignored sessions. And I 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.360 thought it was so crazy. It was Carmen life. Lisa 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:25.400 Spliff said, we've had her on the years and years ago, 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:27.880 but when she talked about that, she was like, people 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:31.000 loved it. People felt like I really catered to their 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.920 needs by that. And it's ironic because you're being ignored. 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:35.880 I have a question, what do you like to be called? 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:40.199 My name like wheezy outside of that, like a pet name, 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.000 anything that you like to be called? Um Gilo, which 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:45.719 is my first name. But how do you like to 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:50.360 be touched? Uh? It depends? Okay, if you saw it 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:53.120 could be hard, Like I vary, tell me something I 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:59.840 can't guess about you, Mmm, something you couldn't guess. I'm introverted. 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:03.840 I believe I was gonna say she can't eat baked 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:07.640 mac and cheese. You ain't know that did a lot 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:11.319 of black people are lacked pose man. She alerted to Hey, 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.319 difficult bits to go out to eat with baby act. 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.080 You wouldn't have known that it's actually easy. Quality with 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:21.040 somebody you find you're interacting is so go back to humanists. 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:22.800 You figure out what the person likes, they don't like. 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.080 You don't do things they don't like. You do things 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.520 that they're interested in that you mutually enjoy, and you 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.280 figure out their their blueprint. And if it's difficult, shouldn't 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:32.120 be hanging with the motherfucker. I'm gonna be real. You 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:35.320 ever find that sometimes people have like very simple yeses 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.480 and nose and you feel like they're the biggest thing 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:39.440 in the world. That's somebody you really can't be hanging with. 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:43.680 Like whenever I noticed that when someone's like, what I 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:45.680 like is very simple, but it's hard for me to 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:49.760 do just even friendships photonically, I'm like, this just isn't 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.960 for me. Oh I do that with time. If I'm 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:56.920 around someone who's just constantly always late it, I just 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.160 let them know this is this does not work for me, 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:01.960 and it will build resentment. I do not like people 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.640 that play with my time, and I've shared that with 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:08.600 my partner, like I've shared that with my my uh 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.920 my co host. I've shared that with just about everybody 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.559 in my life that time is one thing I do 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:17.320 not play with and I do not take lightly. And 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:20.319 so if it's if it's someone who is just constantly 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.959 I was going to show up or be late, slowly 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.079 they'll start being removed out of my life. Like I'm 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:27.800 very I'm very quick to tell people like that's a 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:31.040 big thing. But that goes to being intentional. But that's 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.760 what I'm saying, and again, treating me like a human. 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.560 If it's one thing that you know I absolutely hate 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:40.240 to me, I literally draw the line and look at 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.560 it as a sign of either disrespect that you just 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.560 don't give a fuck about me, because I vocally I 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.480 vocalize that this is something that drives me crazy and 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.040 that I do not like. And so if you don't 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:55.280 even try to be on time for me, then that's 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:56.920 how I take it, and that's how I perceive it, 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.400 and then you're you know, you gotta go. I think 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:04.360 I'm very big now with vocalizing the things that bother me. 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:07.440 I did that with my last relationship, and I've been 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.679 learning how to create boundaries as well. But to me, 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.560 vocalizing the things that you don't like. When you're in 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.560 a relationship and you see that the person that you 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:20.880 are with it's not even attempting to make up to 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:22.960 not do the things that you don't like to me, 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:26.600 then that person has very little reverence for you. And 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.120 that's just how I perceive. I agree. You agree with 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:32.520 that well, So in virtual sessions to finish up that 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:34.560 day answer, it's more about what you like. And this 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.200 is the same thing because this is in space, but 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:39.520 because I'm not touching you, I look at its just virtual. 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.240 It's more about connecting to you as a human and 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:44.800 in space is the same thing, given you agency to 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.120 say yes or no, given you letting you know that 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.320 I'll do anything that you want me to other than 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.800 my heart limits, and I'll tell you what that is. 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.840 So there's always setting the stage to worship the person 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:56.920 that you're in front of. So I look at connecting 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.280 as a form of devotion because we do everything for 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:00.840 a god that we've never That's a great word. I 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.360 I've been using that a lot lately through meditation and stuff. 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.160 Devotion Like, I've been using that a lot, and I 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.240 think that we're using words like that. Sometimes it feels 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:11.920 real serious, but like at the same time, it's a 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:15.000 simple way of telling someone that you are taking them serious, 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:17.400 you know what I mean. Like I used to associate 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.080 words like devotion or body worship. That's the first time 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.600 I would start using worship in a sexual way, right, 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.560 and I would associate that with like, Oh, this feels 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.520 like very commitment and very serious. But I do like 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:32.200 the intention behind sexual relationships, Like I must say, like, 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:36.400 even through casualty, I've had experiences like that this whole podcast, Like, 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.960 I've always had very good foundation built with the people 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:42.280 that I've had sex with. And I think that when 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.480 meeting sex workers, it's always so interesting to me when 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:48.960 someone is a little more intellectual, because I know some 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.240 sex workers that are like, oh girl, through some pasiotomy, 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:54.600 pay me whatever, I'm out and then making just as 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.240 much money or respected the same way as the sex 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.280 worker that's sending you a checklist before they meet up 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:01.760 with you. So it's just interesting to meet different people 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.520 and and and see what that's like, which is kind 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:06.320 of crazy that we're even talking about this with you, 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:09.040 considering the first video I saw of you is you 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.280 blowing your trumpet into someone's pussy. The next one is 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.560 the shower, and here we are. I didn't want to 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.120 have about love and respect. I didn't want to answer 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:16.880 you too, because again you go down the rabbit hole 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:20.400 of your Twitter, it doesn't seem like much as off limits. 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:27.120 So what are your heart limits? Wow? So is the 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:33.480 list long or short? It's actually short. I figured, I'm oh, wow, 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.760 you know what I ask you that that was my 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:40.040 first question. Good, So I try to explain it to people. 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:43.440 I love women of color, specifically black women. I just 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.120 do um. I don't want to be called in word. 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.080 I don't want to be some. I'm not into queen 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:49.600 of space. I don't want to be your BBC like, 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:52.560 that's not my thing. But we joke about it, but 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.800 I actually do it. I mean it's a lot of 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.360 people say in BBC is weird to me? I like it? Wait, 0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.320 but do you because I search it because I don't 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:03.360 want to see what not. We literally talked about it though, 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:05.600 like when you put in white cock or big cock. 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.399 A lot of it's but you're not white saying calling 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:12.360 a man. No, no, I don't vocalize. It's searching. Yeah, 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.080 I don't have to say BBC. I've only been with 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:17.119 black men, so like to me that word, but when 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.000 I'm searching it online, I absolutely do search that word 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.480 because that's what I want to see, right, I mean, 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:23.960 like you see you're saying I don't want to be 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.920 called that. Oh yeah, I mean I mean so it's 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:31.639 a thing called BBC. Yes, oh I don't know, Like 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:36.080 that does not sound sexy. But to be called BBC 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.480 people do it tony all the time. I'll put it 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:44.960 like this, Um, there are certain people that are I 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:52.160 want to talk about. Yeah, we talked about cracow. Come on, sorry, 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:56.640 space people in sex positive spaces, this is what you'll see. 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.720 We're having a conversation. I was an exoteric though which 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:03.399 one in DC, A white lady comes up interrupts me 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:06.120 having a conversation. She sees me talking to a group 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.680 of black women. She interrupts me. It's like, it's time 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.199 for you to spank me. So I was like, you 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:15.040 know what I said, I'm an indulger. But the way 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:16.920 that I did it, all the black women was like, yeah, 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.720 get her. There's like getter because they can see it. 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:23.199 There's like getter. And but the way they move is 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:26.840 such an entitlement and it's such a turn off women 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:28.719 of color. Don't act like that. But you could be 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:31.040 madly attracted to me, but the way you approach me 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:34.119 is still from his place of self respect and respect 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:37.320 for my humanists. I was at the space changing clothes, 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.520 and that's why lady was like, damn, the BBC's here, 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:45.520 and I'm like, first of all, you're never gonna feel it. However, 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:49.399 ill grows right because you literally just did something that 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:52.119 I'm not into. So race play, I don't. I don't 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:55.480 want I don't want blood. Okay, Now I say I'm 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:57.720 in the water sports because like what I what I 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:00.000 do enjoy is when a lady sports all over me. 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:01.840 That brother, it isn't what she said in my face. 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.480 Whether however it happens, you say, square it all over 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.439 me anywhere, but not what about golden showers? I'm not 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:09.159 I'm not opposed to it, Okay, I mean because I 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:13.360 recognize like things with things I despise, seen it other 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:17.280 than my own really buys I used to And now 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:22.480 what is it like? You know, I drink a lot 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:26.120 of water, shipload of fruits and vegan. Is it clear? 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:30.560 That's what she just said on so I know what 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:32.760 it tastes like because I taste one all the time. So, 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.000 like I jokingly said, bumpasaw sweet on on the interview, 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:38.080 but I was being just spent selling physicians. However, not 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:42.840 everybody takes that like you know, you you all had 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:50.680 bad exactly, that was it. Yeah, Like men that are 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:54.920 doing like helloprotein creatine like all that extra shit. I'm like, yo, 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:56.639 are you sure you're not on those steroids because this 0:19:56.720 --> 0:20:00.320 can't be real. That's how bad its weed smokers terrible. Yeah, 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:04.960 I will say vegan definitely the best I've ever tasted. 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:07.800 Hey to admit, because I am not a plant based girl, 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:11.320 but they do be having yo listen, even vegan women 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:14.120 even taste better. I know. It's I was talking about 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:17.719 both it and it's it is. It's really because of 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.280 the cidickness of what we eat, because you end up 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:22.240 tasting like salt. It ends up being like having a 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:26.120 different flavor, even like if you don't drink water, Yeah, 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:28.320 same thing. It turns out, I've been learning a little 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:30.480 bit with my own self, like with tasting right before, 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:33.200 especially because like with having new partners, you know, the 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:35.360 first time, I want to be like perfect, So like 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:38.760 sometimes I definitely I'll cut red meat off right before 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:41.560 I know I gotta date, but I heavy up the 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:44.080 fruits like and really the water is the main different. 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:46.400 I think water over even water. What is a big 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:48.359 thing is a big thing for me. Women that eat 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:52.400 an excessive amount of shrimp you can tell and it's 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:55.840 like really, yeah, well I mean I'm allergic. So yeah, 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:57.919 and I did Wait what happened? Oh yeah you it 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:00.560 could come through the pussy. Wait, but no happens to you. 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:02.840 It makes me nauseous. I don't I don't swell, but 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:10.359 it is it show fish it has been and she 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:12.760 immediately likes. I mean she and a lot of it. 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:15.560 And we were shooting together. I was like, um, tongues 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:18.520 a little technically, and she like she spent a whole 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:23.320 week there day. So I date Muslims often, Um, but no, 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:26.159 I like bacon. So when I'm with them, when I know, 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:31.240 I'm like engaging in sex with someone, Um, this Muslim, 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:33.320 I have to stop eating bacon because they tasted through 0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:36.000 the place they taste. I didn't think it was real. 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:41.880 He knows he like them. Greens had bacon for the holidays. 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:44.720 Didn't that. I was like, damn they show did they 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:51.520 showed them? But I didn't want to get us through 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:54.080 our vanilla ship, because this is where I want to 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:57.760 know just how strange, how kinky things have gotten around you. 0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:01.080 I found an article from me or dot co dot 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:05.520 uk about a man who is in love with balloons. 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:09.159 A man who is attracted to objects has dished the 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:13.879 details of his relationship with multiple balloons. Akaj, who's twenty eight, 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:18.159 is so besided with his collection of inflatable partners that 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:24.000 he could burst literally. The romantic identifies as object them sexual, 0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:29.320 which means he is sexually attracted to inanimate objects. He 0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:32.720 lives in Mumbai, India, and shares a bed with the 0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:36.760 balloons every night, and says that they also enjoy a 0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:41.440 physical relationship. I like their presence in war and share 0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:44.720 intimate feelings with my balloons, and vice versa. I make 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:47.640 out with my balloons when we're in love. You spent 0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:50.840 a lot of time together and accept all kinds of flaws. 0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:53.520 Every morning I wake up by saying good morning and 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:56.280 giving a kiss to my balloon that sleep beside me, 0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:59.879 and vice versa. When they become inflated, I think that 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:03.040 that's when they're born. I can talk to them, take 0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:06.440 them shopping and for a walk in the garden. They 0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:10.720 do talk me through dreams and telepathy, so talk me 0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:17.520 through telepathy. Yes, it's nuts. I don't know what the conversation. Listen, Okay, 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:21.040 so you're laughing like you probably have not heard of 0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:25.280 this because I wasn't ask have you met someone that's 0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:27.679 been in ahead? Now we're ready for the weird talk 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:31.000 about I know you know people? So has anyone been 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:37.560 in love with inanimate objects before? Wow? The one on 0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:42.879 your life? Okay, So, oh man, listen this this is 0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:45.840 interesting for me to talk about because I recognize it's 0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:49.440 different for me. Um, but I feel that way about 0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:51.840 my trumpet, but not not in the sense of it 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:55.040 talks to me like not not like not that, but 0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:57.119 in the sense of you can take it on walks. 0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:02.520 Well I haven't. It's literally with me more than people are. Um. 0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:04.440 But it's more it's more of a self love thing. 0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:09.240 Like when I play trumpet, it is me um tuning myself. 0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:12.919 It is me expressing how I feel through music. So 0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:15.760 it's a part of me. I love it. Yes, it brings. 0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:19.919 That's when it's actually produces, like you like a little. 0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:22.960 So I'm doing that with my collar right now. So 0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:24.240 that's why. One of the reasons why I wear a 0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:26.600 collar because it's a slight uh like blood joke. I 0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:30.000 feel I'm over here like fucking myself right now, forgive me? Okay, 0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:35.920 So I do like trumpet to sit over here with you. 0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:40.960 I don't like you. Isn't your girlfriend? So I ironically 0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:43.320 if if you, if you subscribe to my Only Fans, 0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:46.560 you will see some pictures where I'm doing some things 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:49.679 with my trumpet that you might be like like so 0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:52.640 like what like it can't make noise no more? How 0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:55.359 about this? I to be honest with you, You're just 0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:59.120 gonna have to subscribe. I'm a legal now. That's why 0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:02.160 I'm like, oh shit, you you actually bought something out 0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:04.400 of it. I'm like that is actually you're laughing because 0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:07.040 you understood? Or do you put something in? Or is 0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:11.600 it You're gonna listen if you subscribe to My Only Fans, 0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:14.440 how much is how I made out with your trumpet 0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:17.440 outside of blowing it? Like so, so you might actually 0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:21.080 have an affair with an inanimate object. Hey, y'all, this 0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:23.600 is why. Because you're laughing and you're like, oh shit, 0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:27.399 she talking about me. Maybe you're you gotta add that 0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:30.320 tier it. Actually, I've known this all of my life. 0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:32.159 So any woman that is every day, any person's every 0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:34.879 day to me recognize this. And I'm honest, I'm going 0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:36.919 to touch my trumpet more than I'll probably touch you, 0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:40.720 and has nothing to do with lack of desire for you. Um, 0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:43.280 it's like an or fixation. I enjoy playing the trumpet. 0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:46.240 I enjoyed the blowing of it. Everything about it gives 0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:49.760 me like excitement. So um, it's it's very much a 0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:51.520 part of me and plants. I was thirteen, I'm forty one, 0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:53.680 so I get this away as well. I was laughing. 0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:56.720 I was like, talk to it though, Like, it doesn't 0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:59.480 talk to me. It doesn't help me through relational problems 0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:03.160 to it not. Do you drink or do drugs? First 0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:06.800 of all, I've taken time. Yes, I do drugs, that pharmaceutical, 0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:10.280 plant medicine. Oh, mushrooms. So you're never had the mushroom 0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:11.879 look at that trumpet and been like it's me and 0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:15.080 you for life? No, I've never know. I have not. 0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:18.879 Now I do know that you can be aroused without 0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:21.520 getting hard, you can have an orgasm without shooting out. 0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:28.679 Does your trumpet give you like sexual feelings? Not in 0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:32.399 that sense, in the viboratory sense. Yes, okay, um, the 0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:35.240 same way I'm doing that make my lips vibrate. It's 0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:37.639 very somatic. It brings you out of your head and 0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:42.080 into your body. It's the it's the diaphramic breathing. So 0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:44.920 it's like doing meditation medici breathing. Do you know about 0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:47.920 the breathing how Um, With deep breathing you can release 0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:50.480 DMT into the brain. Yes, and you can also have 0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:54.400 an orgasm. Right, So just with how you breathe with breathplay. 0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:57.399 So one of my teachers, two of my teachers, Grand teacher, 0:26:57.920 --> 0:26:59.000 that's what you made me think of. That's why I 0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:02.040 brought it up my grant, I mean to Peterson and 0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:06.119 then my teacher touched by Jack's they both we we 0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:08.840 do breathwork and they we've been talking about it. But 0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:11.600 orgasm can come from breath. So when I'm playing trump, 0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:14.400 when people see me smoking, when you smokers are doing 0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:19.359 meditative breathing, they're going slow, meaningful breath. They're filling up 0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:23.400 their entire lungs and they're blowing it out. Regardless of that, 0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:25.080 that's that's need to hear nor there. But they're doing it. 0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:28.000 The breath is still meditating. So when I'm playing trumpet, 0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:31.600 I'm doing that plus one. So play like if you 0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:33.280 know what you think about breath and fire, different ways 0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:35.480 to breathe, I'm doing that while I'm playing trumpet. So 0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.800 the kemp like you're saying DMT, I'm that's actually part 0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:42.000 of what's happening. Those deep intense breathings and then blowing 0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:44.199 out all the carbon knocks out of your body. It 0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:48.439 has a very relaxing effect on the body. So the 0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:50.840 same way you get excited about a date you're going 0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:52.760 to go on, and then you go on the date, 0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:56.520 that's I'm getting dopamine oxytocin just from playing the trumpet 0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:59.159 because I'm excited about the thing. I'm excited about the plane. 0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:01.919 And then when I'm playing, I'm actually giving myself this boost. 0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:06.040 So yes, i can be aroused. But as far as orgasm, 0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:08.400 the difference between the jaculas and orgasm is the jacqueline 0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:11.040 is the end of the erection orgasm when your legs 0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.240 starts shaking and you're a malebody person, like that's an orgasm, 0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:15.400 you're having one, you just don't recognize that's what's happening 0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:17.600 while you're having sex when you just start that little 0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:19.280 weird ass pumpy, like, how did you go from a 0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:24.280 steady rhythm to that weirdness? That's an orgasm? Wow, arousal 0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:26.239 can be when you drink water or something. You're like, 0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:30.680 I'm like an explosion of joy as an orgasm, But 0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:33.920 we just centralize to our Genitalian We don't recognize I 0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:37.919 have a scene with bad Sad Jones. That's interesting. I 0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:41.000 wouldn't describe orgasm that way. I feel like orgasm has 0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:44.960 a peak and climax, So enjoying something like a drink, 0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:46.640 I guess. I guess because like I'm getting there and 0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:49.200 then I'm going back down, but like a burst of 0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:53.000 joy from something that you do and then it dissipates, 0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:54.719 So you're right, orgasms kind of a peak and then 0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:58.960 it so meet your favorite food and you're like, ohh, 0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:01.640 how is that any different from when you're rubbing one 0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:04.680 out and you get that old Maybe the intensity, I guess, 0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.280 not just intensity is the location of it. But I 0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:09.880 promise you there's videos were I'm literally rubbing the ladies 0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:12.680 calf and she's squirting all over. So so orgasm doesn't 0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:15.120 have to be centralized the calves. It doesn't have to 0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:19.520 be centralized two years Genitalia, so we experience. There's no 0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:23.440 touching of the puss. You are rubbing her scene the scene, 0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:27.320 it's on my only thing, calf and she is just 0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:30.200 squirting from her calf being rod ass water sports that 0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:35.600 might be it's squirt, not be No, it's squirt. Wow, 0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:37.760 I ain't gonna hold you. I'm gonna subscribe to I 0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:40.720 have just added some more coins. I have flogged people 0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:43.520 and they've they've squirted, but not just on the volve, 0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:48.040 on the buttocks. It's because orgasm that is the build 0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:50.000 up is a build up of many things. But see 0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:56.040 that's because calves is different. Because your ass like being spanked. 0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:57.560 I feel it in my pussy. I feel a little, 0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:01.320 it reaches it somehow. That's local lies. But the calves, 0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:06.320 that's talent. Now you deserve a fly. If you ever 0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:08.000 had a session with me, the way you would feel 0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:10.240 after it is different than the way you feel from 0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:13.479 somebody have a sexually it's given a sus but it's 0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:15.520 not even just that. So my pussy do begin when 0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:19.120 I get massages. That's a good thing they do. But 0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:21.440 as soon as your partner puts his penis inside you. 0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:24.120 You're worried about if they had fun, what I'm going 0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:25.560 to do to you. You're not worried about it I 0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:28.800 had fun. You're so focused on yourself you can get 0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.200 into a space where your body is so sensitive. Why 0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:33.720 I could do like this and you, Oh shit, that's 0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:35.720 good if you can do that to people that are pleasers, 0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:38.160 because I am one, and I've realized that sometimes it's 0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:41.240 almost difficult for me when having sex with pleasers because 0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:43.680 we're almost both racing and we can't relax. And I 0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:45.600 think a lot of people need to unlearn that. I've 0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:48.960 actually learned that recently. M I was sleeping with someone 0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:50.960 that was such a pleaser and so was I, and 0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:54.360 we were both too competing and pleasing each other. Yeah, 0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:58.600 not competing more than like, we couldn't relax or enjoy 0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:00.800 until the other person did. So now it was almost 0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:04.320 like I almost faked it just so he could get 0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:07.760 to it, so that I could get to you know 0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:10.440 what I mean. Like we laughed about it and like 0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:12.720 learned about that too, and he was like, yeah, I 0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:15.000 just can't, Like I just I need to get off it. 0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:16.240 You get an off I'm like I know, so what 0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:18.800 should we do? Did laugh? Like, Um, I do want 0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:20.800 to get back into DMT because I haven't really sat 0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:22.520 with someone that I could have a conversation with that 0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:25.200 with about that with on Horrible, But I've been having 0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:28.880 many combos about it. So I've had DMT, have smoked it, um, 0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.600 and most people know it's a hallucinogen kind of like 0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:36.360 in that ayahuasca ish family, right. But learned about Kundalini 0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:39.080 through Liz Goldman, who we've had on the show, who 0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:40.840 took me to the yoga class, who taught me about 0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:44.760 breath work and meditation. Then I learned about DMT being 0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.880 released through a lot of breath work, and I had 0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:50.840 no idea that DMT was something that your own brain 0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:53.360 can release. And when I did it for an hour, 0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:57.360 so apparently like it's almost they compared to the feeling 0:31:57.360 --> 0:32:00.280 of heroin, like when you're when your brain can get there, 0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:02.160 have you been able to reach it? Took me Like, 0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:06.240 it took me way too long, So um, when you 0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:07.880 you probably don't watch it. If you ever see me 0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:10.440 do yoga on my Instagram lives, that's what I'm doing. 0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:13.120 It takes me about forty five minutes I'm using motion 0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:15.720 in breath. But another thing that happens when you go 0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:18.120 to the gym and workout or hard and you go 0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:20.120 to sleep and have a dream. DMT is when you're dreaming. 0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.600 You say it's hallucination, but your body creates a lot 0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:25.280 of time when you're smoking smoking, I'm saying the hallucination, yeah, 0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:26.880 but when your body crazy, you can create it. You're 0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:29.680 just working out because when you're you're talking about breathing. 0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:32.360 When you're working out intentionally, you're generally focused on your breath. 0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:36.280 But when you're dreaming, that's DMT. You can create it 0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:40.440 through many different things. So, but physical exertion is one way. 0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:43.000 Meditation is another way. But when you do it, it's 0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.880 a it's a beautiful experience. Think about all the chemicals 0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:47.479 you're create in your body right now. You're your own 0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:50.320 perfect drug factory. When you're excited about something that's dopamine, 0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:52.800 when you start to bomb with somebody's oxytocin and nobody 0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:55.120 has to touch you to police set in your body right, 0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:58.000 And that's what I was talking about being attentive. But 0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:00.480 DMT is a fire thing because of the way it 0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:02.920 makes your brain fire and what it does to the 0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:05.600 ego and how you can be like, damn, I'm not 0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:08.520 alone in this crazy space. Also it oh, it crack 0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:11.560 kind of cracks open which you believe to be possible, 0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:14.400 and it puts you in a different space like cycles 0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:16.760 of mushrooms. It puts you in a whole different space. 0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:18.880 After you do, you're like, shit, I feel connected to 0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:24.920 everything and everybody. Yeah. Now, speaking of connections, speaking of 0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:28.440 kinkstruments as well, we're gonna get into our hord dirt 0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:34.160 because you are someone as well who enjoys antal play 0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:38.080 on yourself and so we were lucky. It took us 0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:40.720 years to get someone to come on here and talk 0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:45.200 about them enjoying being pegged um. But you gladly sit 0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:48.479 on dial doos on your page as well, and so 0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:51.320 I would love for you to give us a sex 0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:58.000 tip about antal toys and pegging for men. One of 0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:01.760 the things is um reckons and it doesn't challenge your masculinity, 0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:07.960 our g spot. It's inside your an. It's there. God 0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:11.080 did that because you got y'all. And it's the same thing. 0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:13.160 If someone is digitally penetrate and you're like, I mean, 0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:14.759 can you go to the top and pop that like 0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:16.840 can you touch the G spot. So it's the same 0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:19.799 thing recognizing that you can have the most amount of 0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:21.879 pleasure you've ever had in your life with just one 0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:24.520 finger in your rectum. And it literally takes less than 0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:26.880 ten seconds. Milk a process. As soon as you hit 0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.440 it's like, oh my god. Um. But the biggest thing 0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.200 is I would say, get a dilatory. It's one of 0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:34.359 the best toys. And it's small, starts off real small, 0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:37.200 and it's a bloom. It expands. That actually allowed for me. 0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:39.279 It's the easiest way to take something in your in 0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:44.680 your rectum. Mum dilator like an anal training kit. That's 0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:47.040 exactly what it is. Just go to the sex doore 0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.000 and it's like it said, it's a little small, small ball. 0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:52.080 Hit the power button and just slowly expands. Oh what 0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:56.480 about prep um prepping, like literally preparing yourself for it. Prepping. 0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:58.520 Don't eat a lot of food that day the day 0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:00.319 you want to actually bottom trying not to eat, and 0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.279 go get you some fleet. Take the water, take the 0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:04.760 solution out and just put warm water in it, squirted 0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:06.640 up in there and then your lower bow will be 0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:09.120 cleaned out and once it comes out with nothing but water. 0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.000 You're ready. Now we're going straight into kink tails from there. 0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:17.000 That's the horrible decision. I would love to know what 0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:20.120 the conversation was. Did you want to be pegged the 0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:22.520 first time? Or did a woman say that she wanted 0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:25.000 to peg it? How did that take place? Um, I 0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:27.279 was asking for it, you were asking for it. What 0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:30.120 you should know is this when most people grew up 0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:33.319 trying to break into their parents born stash. My mom 0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:36.879 was a dog, so she had didos, she had an't 0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:38.560 weal be shit, a lot of stuff, and so I 0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:41.960 was like, what's this? Oh why is there a dick? Oh? 0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:44.120 What do you do with it? And you know, at 0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:46.399 some point, being a child, you don't recognize that you're 0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:48.359 a boy or a girl. You're just just doing thing. 0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:51.080 You can take a bath with a whole boy and 0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:53.200 be teen years old, have no idea that that a 0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:54.960 boy and you're a girl. So I was in that 0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:57.239 space planet with Dido's putting things in my butt like 0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:00.400 so I'm like, oh, I didn't know that my g 0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:01.920 spot was there when I was doing it, but I 0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:05.280 was like that shit feels great. Was out here playing? 0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:08.560 How old were you when you were doing that? Oh man, 0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:10.839 And does your mama know that she was in there 0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:15.399 playing with her toys? Yes, oh she does. I think 0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:17.800 when I found my first deal though, and I remember 0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:20.120 it was all black. It was about six inches, had 0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:24.080 no balls. Um, that's the scripted it. I probably was 0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:26.319 somewhere between. We were living in d C. So I 0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:31.400 was probably like twelve or thirteen, somewhere between eleven and thirteen. Um. 0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:34.000 At the time, my motherfucking life I was. I couldn't 0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:35.560 figure how to clean it at all. I didn't I 0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:38.360 didn't know about cleaning out. So it was my first experience. 0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:40.320 Was pleasurable, but it was a lot of like me. 0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:42.480 It was not a ship like like like that. No 0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:46.360 pun into enjoying that at that age. What do you 0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:49.439 what's your sexuality today? Pan sexual? I was gonna guess 0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:52.319 it's all humans. So, but that you have a pan 0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:55.640 sexual vibe, um part of it. So my mom had 0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:58.960 a girlfriend and a boyfriend, and two of my godmothers 0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:03.040 were trans women. Um. And you grew up in d yes, 0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:05.359 So I grew up in a household where you were 0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:08.520 encouraged to be you. Just if you're having sex with somebody, 0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:10.399 to be honest, don't lie about who and what you are, 0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:14.799 but just be you know, show up in the world. Luck. Yeah, yeah, 0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:18.319 thirty one. This is a really crazy thing to you. 0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:23.640 Hear so many younger people saying like, oh, like I 0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:25.719 had a coming out party and you're like, oh, like, 0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:28.080 imagine the person that like, were you one a few 0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:31.360 amongst friends? Um, so this is the funny thing. Um, 0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:34.080 and I don't I don't like the dry stitching or anybody. 0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:37.040 I don't believe almost anybody straight for many reasons. As 0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:39.120 a sex work, we were not I don't even like 0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:40.920 to play this game like I'm not gay, but I'm 0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:42.960 a dude. So how about you don't gotta be gay 0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:45.040 whatever you call yourself. You're here for pleasure. I'll give 0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:48.200 it to you. Um, it's not even about sex, just 0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:50.479 dude touching to do man man man on mail touch. 0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:54.080 But I think what it is is we are sexualities 0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:56.000 based on who we will take home to our parents. 0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:58.760 Sometimes in some cases, you may not actually be attracted 0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:01.480 to a one, be like this woman doesn't do anything 0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:03.759 for me. However, you made meet a woman, be like, 0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:06.360 she's so fucking fired, who would it be like to 0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:09.320 kiss them? So that's that's a different level of attraction, 0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:12.200 but it's more about their energy sexual attraction on the 0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:14.360 animal level. Some things you're not attracted to. But it 0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:15.759 may be a day like damn, I don't know how 0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:17.440 should get my pussy? Well, what the hell does happened 0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:20.279 to me? But when it comes down to pleasure, if 0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:22.120 this was a dark room and you were getting your 0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:24.719 box age and it felt great to you, once the 0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:26.279 light comes on, you're like, damn, it was a dog. 0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:29.600 Oh shit, you'd be mad, you'd be pissed. But the 0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:31.799 whole time before you knew he was like yo, they 0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:34.319 he was going to town and it wasn't even a heat. 0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:39.560 So pleasure is separate than sexuality because dude, say they're straight, 0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:41.239 but they go to glory hose and who's in the 0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:43.960 glory hole? Who's behind the wall. It was created for man, 0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.080 it was. It wasn't created for male on female right. 0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:47.839 It was a crazy to give your ammiunity to put 0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:49.440 your addict to a hole and get it sucked and 0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:51.120 be like, oh, I didn't know it was. You knew 0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:55.640 who it was. So sexualities and pleasure, you know, they 0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:58.759 can be separated because you don't have to quote unquote 0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.640 be attracted to a male, but you'll still use his mouth, 0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:05.919 You'll still use his asshole. That's a pleasure. Basic about 0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:08.399 jail a lot. I had this conversation with people who 0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:12.120 are very much and identified as straight. But those are 0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:14.480 things that, yeah, they'll allow because it maybe it feels 0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:16.240 good or whatever the case. I was at a photo 0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:18.800 shoot Mandy, and let me just say this, the straight 0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:21.000 men talk more about my penis than the ladies that 0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:24.279 were there. But do you also think that that's a 0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:26.839 trained thing? Knowing that even important we talked about it. 0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:29.560 They often show the dick going in the pussy, the 0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:34.239 coum shot, the dick getting sucked. Please tell me, please 0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:37.960 tell me what about that it's heterosexual? Because if I'm heterosexual, 0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:39.920 I want to see two women. I don't need to 0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:43.000 do what I need to do for I agree with 0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:45.759 you on the first part about people's scale, but I 0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:48.920 think people envision themselves important. Yes they can't, But what 0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:55.480 I'm saying is, if you're there's no need. I've met 0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:57.799 people that are woman or male body. They don't spend 0:39:57.840 --> 0:39:59.640 any time talking about a pussy because I don't like it. 0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:03.000 She's cute. I mean, he banged her out, but I'm 0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:05.359 more about him. The fact that a lot of straight 0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:09.160 do spend so much time they want the larger penis. 0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:11.279 They want you to beat it on their faith. If 0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:12.920 you have a small penis, how do you imagine that's 0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:15.759 your openis. I'm not trying to be funny. If you're 0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:19.520 a white male fantasy though, I get it, but it's 0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.040 still fixated on the penis. Part of it is misogyny, 0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:24.200 I get it, but it's still you spend more time 0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:26.600 talking about it than I do. And then women, but 0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:29.799 you say you're straight or part of it, and I'm 0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:32.880 being facetious. I recognize people can have their own preferences, 0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:36.640 just being silly, but it's just sexuality is so fluid 0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:39.080 in many different ways. Because it said pleasure and sexuality 0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:41.000 can be separated, but a lot of people enjoy pleasure, 0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:43.680 but they wouldn't take a dude home, right, But again, 0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:46.480 you'll go to a glory hole. I'm eighty twenty Actually 0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:48.840 was what you said, ady, agreeing that people for the 0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:50.880 most part are not all the way straight. The twenty 0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:54.040 is that I think we can be very brainwashed into 0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:57.279 not letting us do that. I think men specifically, I mean, 0:40:57.360 --> 0:40:59.319 for the most part, we celebrate girls kissing a girl 0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:01.439 and it's funny and it's sexy and whatever. I think 0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:04.399 men can be so terrified to even look the other 0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:06.360 way that sometimes they want to allow their brain to 0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:09.080 get there. I think about the men that I've wanted 0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:12.000 to have, you know, play with that we're just like, 0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:14.480 oh my god, don't like or just freaking out about it. 0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:17.200 Won't let their body relax, just can't think about it 0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:19.440 because it's been forced into them. And I mean that's 0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:23.040 a societal pressure, but I think that almost keeps you 0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:26.120 from it. I think maybe even I had a guy 0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:28.000 tell me once that was open about it. He was like, 0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:30.200 I remember when I was like a teenager, I wanted 0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:32.239 to know what other guys bodies looked like in the 0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:35.640 locker room. I wanted to know if I looked similar, 0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:37.399 if I was bigger or smaller. I wanted to know. 0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:41.120 And then amongst looking like, I knew they were attractive, 0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:42.799 and it made me think of women, and like I 0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:44.879 would think about them and think about sex, but think 0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:47.279 about fucking women. That to me is still Kinsley skill. Shit. 0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:49.719 I look at hot girls sometimes they might want to 0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:51.440 go fuck my boyfriend. You know what I'm saying like, 0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:55.120 I think, though, we've got to make sure that we're 0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:58.480 all having conversation about pleasure, Like I think you've said 0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:01.200 something today that I haven't heard a Really pleasure and 0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:04.359 sexuality are separate, because it's very true. Yeah, I really 0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:06.640 like that, especially because the clip of you that went 0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:14.839 viral literally questioned both of those things. So you went 0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:17.000 viral for saying that you sucked your own dick and 0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:18.920 came in your mouth, which is ironic now that you 0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:22.200 say you don't like come, it's the thing. Oh you 0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:23.839 don't like other people's come, but you're cool with your 0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:25.080 because you know what you're eating and put it in 0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:29.600 your body. Now, there is a porn star and I'm 0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:31.920 so mad that I can't remember his name now, but 0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:34.920 that literally sucks his own dick off yeap crazy he 0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:39.080 was no that he's new. I'm talking about like when 0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:40.560 we first got on the spot and I was like, 0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:45.160 oh wow, because he was very, very attractive. And that's 0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:47.839 why I like gay porn because they'd be fine. How 0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:49.799 can you do it? That's everybody suestion, right, is it? 0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:53.760 The bending over? Is it flexibility? Can anyone suck? By 0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:55.080 the way, By the way, can any man suck their 0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:56.840 own dick. Is that a thing that really all of 0:42:56.920 --> 0:43:02.799 y'all can do? No, okay, it's anatomy and flexibility. So um, 0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:06.319 because I feel like anybody, Yeah, okay, So women can't. 0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:09.840 We can't. Oh, listen, we can't eat all busy. You 0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:14.040 see someone eat the busy. Let me tell you something. Listen. 0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:16.600 You telling secrets on a microphone is so funny. There 0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:20.040 are two people that I've seen do it. There's this 0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:23.239 Asian lady and the other person doesn't really do it, 0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:25.960 but they can put their face there. Um, I want 0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:28.879 to say. The name is Tabana okay, and she she's 0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:32.640 a black contortionist. It is I know she can't and 0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:34.239 let me tell you. When she'd be teasing, I'll just 0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:38.719 be like, oh Jesus wow. And it's it's it is 0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:40.560 a thing to watch because I'm like, I just think, 0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:41.719 I like al due to you while you're doing that. 0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:45.200 But to answer your question, so, this is the size 0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:48.319 of my files. It is two hands plus this so 0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:51.600 literally I can bend over God that or I can 0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:54.160 put my legs over my head. What you say that big? 0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:58.759 I saw a video of it, but like what, I'm 0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:03.279 sorry you put it nipple. Yeah, he just it's it's 0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:07.360 so god No, you really just put that up to 0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:10.239 your nipple. So check out when when it's hard, it's 0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:12.960 it's two hands and I can lift my thumb and 0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:15.040 my thumb is at the head of my penis. Oh okay, 0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:19.160 so when I bent over, I can uh, or if 0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:21.399 I put my legs over my head, that's it. That's 0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:24.440 when you get to throw your Listen, how is that? 0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:26.440 Are you a good dick sucker? Because you would know 0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:30.440 since you yourself like, how would you raise your dick 0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:37.200 sucking skill? Listen? You know I did not wanted to know. 0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:38.960 This is the funny thing. No one has ever asked me. 0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:41.520 I don't know, So you have to understand this. You 0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:46.000 just do what you want to feel. No, not I 0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:48.040 ask people what they like? So no, no, I mean 0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:53.200 like on yourself myself. Yeah, I'm here, so i'm experiments. 0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:54.440 I'm like, oh, what is this? What is this? What 0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:56.799 is this? But when I give other people head, it's 0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:58.560 more of like, what do you like even if it 0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:00.399 whether it's male female body, because they if you don't 0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:02.440 like what I'm doing, I'm wasting my time And I 0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:04.759 want to be intentional and I want. I want you 0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:07.200 not to be triggered. I want you to be seen 0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:10.440 in anything that I do. Um, because even if I 0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:12.840 missed the mark and you say I like this, this, 0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:14.920 and let's not do those three things, but I missed 0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:16.839 the mark somewhere on these other things, you'd be like 0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:20.080 they gave effort. I like that. You. Everyone wants to 0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:23.719 feel that someone showed up for them, so you know, 0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:25.439 but I don't. I don't know. I don't. I can't 0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:27.000 say that I'm good. I don't know. What do you 0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:30.760 do it for work? A lot? Oh? Like you record 0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:35.400 yourself doing it well? Personally, I tell people when I'm 0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:37.600 in the mood there it may be like every other month, 0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:39.759 I'm in the mood to give myself at And one 0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:41.680 of the running jokes is he doesn't need anybody to pleasure. 0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:44.440 I'm like, actually, I enjoy touch from other people. Um. 0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:47.080 It's something that I recognize when I was younger and 0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:50.319 I was like oh boom oh, and it was just like, oh, 0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:52.640 I did it. But it wasn't like your mind was 0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:56.480 an advanced mind, sir. You know, I've always been this 0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:59.200 way because again, I grew up in a sex positive 0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:01.360 home where my mom had a girlfriend and a boyfriend. 0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:03.919 So my grandfather had four girlfriends and I knew them all. 0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:08.440 I knew my cousins who I knew everyone. So my 0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:10.600 life was just kind of different. Growing up. I never 0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:12.520 came out of the closet because why would I why 0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:14.239 would do to my mom? Was no closet. Yeah, my 0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:18.120 mom was like, be you so um it? I did 0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:20.839 now two friends? Yes, I had to say, well kind 0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:22.480 of not. I wore dresses in high school, so that's 0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:25.520 so it's yeah, if you if you grew up with me, 0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:29.719 you knew I wasn't heterosexual, like I wore dresses, I 0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:33.480 wore skirts. I would you call because back then did 0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:36.799 you call yourself by No? I just I just was. 0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:40.359 I knew I wasn't straight. I would say I would 0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:42.520 say bisexual at the time because paying sexual was a new, 0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:46.239 a new Yeah, I like, I like, you know, I'm bisexual. Um, 0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:48.600 But if when you find yourself sleeping with more and 0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:52.920 has it changed? So this is the thing, um, and 0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:56.359 this is just about social emotional intelligence. How were we're Um, 0:46:57.480 --> 0:47:00.440 I were socialized for me to do with a male 0:47:00.480 --> 0:47:02.560 bodied person. You you're not going to be you can't 0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:04.680 be misogynistic the way you approach me is not going 0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:08.200 to be I'm fucking you, I'm dominating you. It has 0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:09.560 to be the same way I would approach a woman. 0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:12.680 I'm gonna be gentle. So I find myself dealing with 0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:18.759 women more because dudes are not always able to be themselves. 0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:21.040 I don't deal with download dudes like I'm not You're 0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:22.840 not about to make me. We're not doing that. So 0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:24.840 a lot of dudes are in that space and they 0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:27.279 be like, nah, like what me doing. You're not gonna 0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:29.040 take me somewhere and make me feel away. Everybody that 0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:31.200 knows me knows I'm off the chain, so we're out. 0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:34.759 You're gonna think they just think we just rain. So 0:47:34.920 --> 0:47:36.879 I'm like, I just don't like that type of energy. 0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:40.520 So I end up dealing with women more. But I'm open. 0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:43.279 It's just about the human showing up as a human. Now, 0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:47.279 for the black men listening that are again maybe I 0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:49.880 hate to use the word confused, but in terms of 0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:52.799 sexuality or where they fall on the Kinsey scale, a 0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:57.200 lot of people feel as though women don't allow men 0:47:57.320 --> 0:48:01.920 often to come as themselves. And you say you enjoy 0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:04.520 black women, so I do. Just before we get out 0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:06.759 of here, I have to get into this conversation with 0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:10.239 you being this person from a child and knowing that 0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:12.719 you just come as you. What has your experience been 0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:16.000 with black women regarding your sexuality and do they make 0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:20.960 you feel safe? Um? So oh wow, oh yeah, these 0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:24.879 are really good questions and so not trying to make 0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:28.320 black women a monolith, of course, but yes, I find 0:48:28.360 --> 0:48:31.359 that it is difficult not for me to say who 0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:34.319 I am, but let's say one of us we were 0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:35.680 trying to date. You have to be able to tell 0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:38.719 your friends I'm dating the neck a Trumpeter and they're 0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:40.520 gonna look at my social media and be like this 0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:42.520 this this is who you don't know what kind of 0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:46.720 trump So they're there are different things that that goes 0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:48.960 into it. So if you're not secure as a woman 0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:51.279 to say I do like them, that's an issue. But 0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:52.960 there are women that's like that's gay and I'm like, 0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:57.640 oh okay, and I'm like what does that mean? So 0:48:57.719 --> 0:49:00.640 you care more about who I'm being honest about who 0:49:00.640 --> 0:49:02.160 I have sex with and how I treat you as 0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:05.319 a person, because I'm like that Donalo is real, right? 0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:07.080 It is women like you're the first on my I 0:49:07.120 --> 0:49:08.879 am the first paying sexual like, that's where we're going 0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:10.839 on the first person. I was honest to you, that's 0:49:10.840 --> 0:49:14.160 where that will hop about that. So it can be 0:49:14.200 --> 0:49:17.040 difficult for black women to accept you, and so for 0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:19.360 me dating is difficult in that sense of there are 0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:22.640 a lot of unfortunately Black women that would do everything 0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:25.640 to uphold the patriarchy and misogyny. Is it the sex 0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:28.799 work or the sexual orientation and to find more of 0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:31.360 a hindrance to dating. It's a little bit of both. 0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:33.360 But I will say this, I've been called assist in 0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:36.640 effage more for how I conduct myself and who I 0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:40.279 have sex with. Wow, if we were like, let's say 0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:42.040 I was trying to like court one of you all, 0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:45.400 I'm probably never going to touch you. I'm not going 0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:48.160 to make any any way to be sexual with because 0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:50.239 someone to know you as a person. So one lady 0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:52.359 I was talking to we spent like two months again, 0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:54.000 and she's like, are you are you attracted to me? 0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:55.680 I was like, yeah, why why why do you think that? 0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:58.000 She's like, you should never pushed upon me. I was like, oh, 0:49:58.480 --> 0:49:59.840 so me getting to know you as a humanist is 0:50:00.160 --> 0:50:02.520 the fact that I respect your space. I expermission to 0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:04.440 do these things to you. She's like, well, I'm used 0:50:04.440 --> 0:50:06.319 to men doing this. I'm like, oh violent, and you're 0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:10.080 consenting basically forcibly almost kind of assaulting you and you 0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:12.160 just kind of go with it. I'm like, that's not 0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:14.759 my last two men. I'm dated. I've come on this 0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:19.080 podcast and say like, why don't they want to have 0:50:19.160 --> 0:50:22.400 sex with me? Sooner? Dada da da. And it's so 0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:27.360 crazy because the conversation I had recently was like literally 0:50:27.480 --> 0:50:29.600 like my friends and I are trying to dissect why. 0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:33.680 You know, this summer I was dating someone like how 0:50:34.080 --> 0:50:35.719 how am I not fucking him? And I remember even 0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:37.560 you were like maybe he's gay or maybe he just 0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:40.080 wants to be your friend, bro, And that was his 0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:42.720 exact answer, like I'm getting to know you, like I've sucked. 0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:45.560 Everybody's like halla fa and like of course you can 0:50:45.600 --> 0:50:49.840 get pussy. It's like and I'm sitting here thinking almost 0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:52.480 in my brain being a sex positive person who has 0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:55.440 a podcast like this, Oh yeah, maybe he's just like 0:50:55.520 --> 0:50:57.160 the weaker one of us too, even as the woman. 0:50:57.320 --> 0:50:59.279 I feel bad to say and I admitted on this 0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:03.920 pot too, um black Jesus, like he wanted to keep 0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:05.960 hanging out with me, but we weren't having sex because 0:51:06.440 --> 0:51:08.839 you know, I was back entertaining this God damn my ex. 0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:12.239 But I was so shocked that, Okay, if we're not 0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:14.040 having sex, you still want to hang out with me. 0:51:14.520 --> 0:51:18.359 And I think it's because of that relationship with heterosexual 0:51:18.400 --> 0:51:24.239 men yet, but the waiting when we had we fused 0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:27.040 on the first night. It was surprising to me that 0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:31.239 like we still wanted to hang we weren't having sex. 0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:33.960 This goes back to my original point. Yeah, about being 0:51:34.040 --> 0:51:36.080 seen as a human. Yeah, so even though you want it, 0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:38.640 you I know what you all look like, I know 0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:40.759 what you're accustomed to. So it's like, as a as 0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:44.000 a guy that understands themselves, we're like, we actually want 0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:45.960 to know who you want to self control. I think 0:51:46.040 --> 0:51:49.120 that we or at least for one point for myself, 0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:54.400 I thought I didn't realize self control meant that he 0:51:54.680 --> 0:51:56.880 actually had interest. I was just like, oh, he's not 0:51:57.120 --> 0:51:59.759 that into me if he can't contain himself, do you 0:51:59.880 --> 0:52:02.080 know the more that we're into you? It is. So 0:52:02.440 --> 0:52:05.160 I went on a date today and I have been 0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:07.480 talking to this first, I'm telling my damn business kind 0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:13.440 I decisions and I'm Polly. So all my lovers at 0:52:13.520 --> 0:52:15.600 one point will watch this, so I always have to 0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:17.839 let them know what's going on, because like, I want 0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:19.239 to tell you first. But I'm went on a date 0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:21.279 today and I've known the person for about maybe a 0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:23.680 year and a half, and every time we've met, we've 0:52:23.680 --> 0:52:25.520 been in sex positive space, we've been face we could 0:52:25.520 --> 0:52:27.759 have literally had sex right then and there never had sex. 0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:30.799 We've had great conversation, and so today I told her. 0:52:30.840 --> 0:52:31.880 I was like, you know, I like you, should like 0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:33.279 I like you too, And I was like, well, the 0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:35.759 reason I like her more is because we've never had sex. 0:52:36.320 --> 0:52:38.400 I'm a sex worker. I'm going to have sex. I 0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:40.399 know when I'm gonna have sex and who I'm gonna 0:52:40.400 --> 0:52:42.080 be having sex with, how many times, how many scenes 0:52:42.080 --> 0:52:44.440 is gonna shoot? So I'm not worried about that. But 0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:46.239 when I can actually treat you as a human and 0:52:46.280 --> 0:52:47.759 we get to know it, sure that means actually like you. 0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:49.719 Because if sex is the only thing you can offer 0:52:49.760 --> 0:52:52.000 me when I'm not horny, what are we doing when 0:52:52.000 --> 0:52:53.880 I'm feeling What you just said is what I've just 0:52:54.000 --> 0:52:55.880 learned the last six months of my life. I'm almost 0:52:55.880 --> 0:53:00.000 thirty two years old. I mean the keeping. I always 0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:03.719 associated men wanting me in their passion for me with sex, 0:53:04.440 --> 0:53:06.800 not that I wasn't getting I've had a lot of 0:53:06.880 --> 0:53:10.160 boyfriends and men want to court me, but it was 0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:13.399 still associated with sex. But in this moment, like, it's 0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:16.319 crazy because I did not know that I would even 0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:20.000 say until three weeks ago, just thinking that liking me 0:53:20.160 --> 0:53:22.880 this much was because we haven't had sex yet, because 0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:25.960 now I got to push past that point of my 0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:28.160 interest is there? Because at first, when he said something 0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:30.400 like this to me, I thought, oh, so, basically, you're 0:53:30.440 --> 0:53:32.080 scared to fuck me because you're not gonna like me 0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:34.600 after that. But it wasn't that. It was that you're 0:53:34.640 --> 0:53:37.040 so used to fucking girls by the third day or whatever, 0:53:37.520 --> 0:53:39.919 that you kind of just don't get to this point 0:53:39.960 --> 0:53:41.960 that we're at now. When the fuck are you talking 0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:44.880 about family? You know what I mean, or my goals 0:53:45.040 --> 0:53:47.640 or life shit. When our first dates drinks, the second 0:53:47.719 --> 0:53:49.640 dates drinks, and by the third one we're ready to fuck. 0:53:50.120 --> 0:53:53.560 Like now, we're really building. And I think that men 0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:56.800 that for themselves want more because at the end of 0:53:56.880 --> 0:53:59.719 the day, most men that I've met, even my homeboys, 0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:01.800 want a wifee type of girl. At the end of 0:54:01.800 --> 0:54:03.960 the day, they want one woman that they feel more 0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:06.080 connected to rather than the eight girls are currently fucking. 0:54:06.160 --> 0:54:08.120 They just haven't met them yet, but maybe they have. 0:54:08.440 --> 0:54:10.160 They just sucked them too early, and now it kind 0:54:10.160 --> 0:54:12.400 of feels like the chase is done for me. It's 0:54:12.440 --> 0:54:14.160 not about that. If I have interests, I have interests. 0:54:14.200 --> 0:54:16.080 But if you have a growth mindset, if you're intelligent, 0:54:16.360 --> 0:54:19.200 your body is going to change. Whatever size you are 0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:20.640 right now, we could be dating tomorrow. You can gain 0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:23.080 a one hundred pounds. So I don't like you, and 0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:26.040 the only interest I have is in your body? Why 0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:28.000 am I wasting my time? And keep in mind too, 0:54:28.480 --> 0:54:32.320 that we're thinking our bodies are the prize, so so 0:54:32.480 --> 0:54:38.359 many times when we're online, we're posting the bikini picks 0:54:38.400 --> 0:54:40.600 and doing things like that, ready to reel them in 0:54:41.120 --> 0:54:43.719 without making sure that we've got intellectual conversation. Do you 0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:46.520 know how many women are so my home girls have 0:54:46.640 --> 0:54:49.600 made fun of me for years for things that I 0:54:49.640 --> 0:54:52.200 see now our soft girl life and like a trend 0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:54.960 on Twitter. I've had people say that I was what 0:54:55.160 --> 0:54:57.160 is it when you're like trying to like not the 0:54:57.239 --> 0:55:00.400 male gaze but it's like there's a turn people have 0:55:00.440 --> 0:55:02.440 been using about like trying to basically you're talking for 0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:06.280 the guys. What is that one? Oh? Not man's playing 0:55:06.920 --> 0:55:09.399 pick me? You're a pick me because I would say 0:55:09.440 --> 0:55:11.279 things about cooking or doing little things, and I would 0:55:11.280 --> 0:55:14.319 be really confused about to pick me comment. But it's 0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:18.600 because it wasn't cool to be softer or to like 0:55:19.000 --> 0:55:21.840 show men that attitude. And maybe it was like my 0:55:21.960 --> 0:55:23.840 relationship with my dad, so I haven't had to have 0:55:23.920 --> 0:55:26.040 a guard up, whereas a lot of my friends didn't 0:55:26.040 --> 0:55:29.440 have that luxury. But I do realize today that like 0:55:30.000 --> 0:55:32.920 it's just becoming up acceptable for women to be like that, 0:55:33.040 --> 0:55:35.399 and I hope what happens for men is that men 0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:38.680 that do want those deeper connections with women, they take 0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:41.680 that approach. Hey, maybe even when she's asking for dick, 0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:43.200 let me hold it back a little bit because I 0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:45.960 can see something with this girl which men probably aren't 0:55:46.000 --> 0:55:49.719 doing because it's it's a lot more pressure for a 0:55:49.800 --> 0:55:51.440 dude not to want to fuck you. Oh what are 0:55:51.440 --> 0:55:53.600 you gay? That's the first thing I'm thinking. So I 0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:56.000 set it on this podcast, or or you gotta outbreak, 0:55:56.200 --> 0:56:01.520 or you all answered the question that you just asked, 0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:03.719 and that has been my experience. I'm like, but if 0:56:03.760 --> 0:56:06.399 I like you, we can chill. Even if we have sex, 0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:08.719 like you said, with black cheese, I can give you that. Well, 0:56:08.760 --> 0:56:12.600 it could be fair. There isn't unlearning unfortunately that has 0:56:12.640 --> 0:56:14.800 taken place with us. And I think I'm so grateful 0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:17.680 for this show because even the things that I experienced, 0:56:18.040 --> 0:56:20.600 I let everyone know I've only been with black men. 0:56:20.880 --> 0:56:23.680 And so my friends have said, girl, how you be fine? 0:56:23.719 --> 0:56:25.959 And how you be fining these men that be letting 0:56:25.960 --> 0:56:28.320 you do all this? And I'm like, they're probably the 0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:30.120 same men that you do. You just don't make them 0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:33.279 feel safe. You don't allow them. They don't trust you 0:56:33.600 --> 0:56:35.960 with the things that they're really into. And a lot 0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:37.960 of black men will literally come to me. I used 0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:39.719 to Oh my god, I used to call myself the 0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:43.080 buddhahole whisper one time, like all these men like let 0:56:43.160 --> 0:56:44.480 me know the things they were into, and they were like, 0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:46.600 you're the only girl that knows this. You're the only 0:56:47.000 --> 0:56:49.440 part of it is setting the container. And the other 0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:53.239 thing is there's language that you can use that will 0:56:53.320 --> 0:56:56.520 let men know I'm not safe here. M. Can you 0:56:56.719 --> 0:57:00.480 give some examples of what those things could be just 0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:02.560 before we get out of here, because any any woman 0:57:02.680 --> 0:57:06.680 listening that really maybe wanting to dive deeper into kink 0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:09.560 or let let you know men know that she's open 0:57:09.640 --> 0:57:13.080 and not judgmental. What are things that are normally said 0:57:13.120 --> 0:57:15.640 by women that make you not feel safe with their 0:57:15.800 --> 0:57:18.520 with their views on sexuality? Some of them? So I'll 0:57:18.560 --> 0:57:22.240 give you some actions. So um, I'll say, hey, you know, Wheezy, today, 0:57:22.320 --> 0:57:24.640 I was really emotional and I was sad, and I 0:57:24.760 --> 0:57:27.160 just felt like I wasn't strong enough to do this 0:57:27.280 --> 0:57:30.479 if you don't stop being a punk ass, yeah, weak ass? 0:57:30.680 --> 0:57:33.360 Man up? Why are you crying things like that? So 0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:35.720 when I'm trying to show you the full breath of 0:57:35.760 --> 0:57:39.600 my humanness and you call it gay, soft, weak, punk pussy. 0:57:40.120 --> 0:57:41.840 And it's funny that the words that we use to 0:57:41.920 --> 0:57:48.400 describe weakness are the strong strong, but we use words 0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:50.920 about women to describe weakness. So anytime that you describe 0:57:51.000 --> 0:57:54.600 me being emotional and equate that to a feminine traite, yeah, 0:57:54.800 --> 0:57:56.520 you're telling me I'm not safe to show you that 0:57:56.600 --> 0:58:00.600 I'm a human. Wow. Um, anytime we're watching TV like 0:58:00.720 --> 0:58:03.120 that fag of ass, you're like, well, anytime a dude 0:58:03.160 --> 0:58:07.320 does anything and your comment is negative about their mannerisms, 0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:11.560 not being strong, not being masculine. If a man cries, 0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:13.560 my friend, if a man cries in front of you, 0:58:13.840 --> 0:58:15.320 the best thing you can do is hold them and 0:58:15.320 --> 0:58:17.479 say thank you, thank you for showing me that side 0:58:17.520 --> 0:58:19.120 of you. You're not safe. That would make make a 0:58:19.200 --> 0:58:21.560 person feel right now, we were on a date and 0:58:21.640 --> 0:58:23.760 you just burst out in tears. If we don't know 0:58:23.840 --> 0:58:25.400 it's that way, you may think I'm gonna judge you. 0:58:25.520 --> 0:58:27.040 But if I show you I'm here with you and 0:58:27.080 --> 0:58:29.440 I'm just gonna hold space, people like, but damn, I 0:58:29.560 --> 0:58:31.400 can be myself in front of them. They're not gonna 0:58:31.400 --> 0:58:34.480 act weird. Do you think if people, specifically women aren't 0:58:34.560 --> 0:58:37.800 using terms like the F word or like calling someone 0:58:37.840 --> 0:58:39.520 a bitch or a punk, and they say things like 0:58:40.080 --> 0:58:42.400 I want a man who's gonna be this, this, that, 0:58:42.520 --> 0:58:44.720 and they're like trying to maybe show you how they 0:58:44.880 --> 0:58:47.000 or they'll even say they want someone masculine. I think 0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:49.080 that's the same thing. It is the same thing, yeah, 0:58:49.080 --> 0:58:52.000 because I've seen that a lot too, where girls are 0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:55.960 overdoing this manly man they want. It's like, girl, my friend, 0:58:56.640 --> 0:58:58.720 my best friend. He know how to hang shit up 0:58:58.720 --> 0:59:01.880 on the walls, So my friend does that often. She'll 0:59:01.920 --> 0:59:05.240 go out with with guys a lot, and the first 0:59:05.280 --> 0:59:08.640 thing she tells me is, girl, I think I don't 0:59:08.680 --> 0:59:10.360 think he's all the way straight. And I'd be like, 0:59:10.480 --> 0:59:13.280 well why, and she would just be like his manner. 0:59:14.240 --> 0:59:17.280 It would like even if they're not, even if they're not, 0:59:17.360 --> 0:59:19.960 if they treat you, Brianna said, it makes me feel 0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:21.760 like I'm the only girl in the world. If somebody 0:59:21.840 --> 0:59:24.040 does that to you and they're honest about who they are, 0:59:24.160 --> 0:59:28.280 why do you care? What is keeping you from being happy? 0:59:28.760 --> 0:59:32.160 So if we're so, if let's say even I'm Polly, 0:59:32.240 --> 0:59:34.760 I can enter into anogamus relationship. So yeah, I'm paying 0:59:34.800 --> 0:59:36.960 sexual bless say I'm dating Mandy and she's like, I'm 0:59:37.160 --> 0:59:40.360 a monogamous don't ain't nobody else? So we're monogamous. That 0:59:40.400 --> 0:59:42.520 means I'm no longer having sex with a dude. There's 0:59:42.560 --> 0:59:45.480 no competition. It's a shoe, So then what is your issue? 0:59:45.880 --> 0:59:49.440 I actually think though what you're saying, Polly, for me, 0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:52.440 most people are not able to make you feel like 0:59:52.600 --> 0:59:53.800 the only girl in the world. I have a very 0:59:53.840 --> 0:59:57.360 close friend who's in a Polly relationship where they feel 0:59:57.440 --> 0:59:59.919 like that person is fluctuating so much on the Kis 1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:02.480 scale that they're not being catered to. It. It's like, hey, 1:00:03.040 --> 1:00:05.720 one day, my partner just may want a woman more 1:00:05.720 --> 1:00:07.080 and may want a man more, and it's like I 1:00:07.160 --> 1:00:09.960 get left out. And I've had the experience that with Polly. 1:00:10.000 --> 1:00:11.560 A lot of people don't know how to manage that. 1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:15.040 I think you're speaking from a place of maturity and experience. 1:00:16.000 --> 1:00:18.200 And I don't know how long you've been Polly, but 1:00:18.320 --> 1:00:20.720 just your age alone shows me what's the difference between 1:00:20.800 --> 1:00:25.480 me and Polly having multiple friends a lot. So this 1:00:25.640 --> 1:00:27.160 is my question. Do you do you love your your 1:00:27.240 --> 1:00:30.280 platonic friends? Yes? Do you hang out with your platonic friends? 1:00:30.360 --> 1:00:32.800 Not as much as my partner? Okay, well that's your 1:00:32.840 --> 1:00:36.200 own personal boundary. It's not a personal boundary I have 1:00:36.360 --> 1:00:40.800 the I don't have time to sexually. I would say, 1:00:40.920 --> 1:00:45.200 like please or even gratify all twenty of my friends 1:00:46.520 --> 1:00:49.320 right like, But but that's not the basis of almost 1:00:49.360 --> 1:00:52.480 any serious relationship. It's not just sex. But I'm saying 1:00:52.720 --> 1:00:54.200 just that a lot. But I'm just saying but the 1:00:54.280 --> 1:00:56.680 main difference between my platonic friends. I don't fuck them, yes, 1:00:56.720 --> 1:00:58.360 but you have the capacity to love them though, right, 1:00:58.480 --> 1:01:00.480 I do. But I can't eat and show up for 1:01:00.520 --> 1:01:03.200 some of them motherfuckers all the time. Think about how 1:01:03.280 --> 1:01:04.720 hard it is to catch up with a friend for lunch. 1:01:04.840 --> 1:01:07.080 But that's fine though. So in my life because of 1:01:07.160 --> 1:01:09.640 what I do for work, I'm literally I'm not gonna 1:01:09.640 --> 1:01:12.680 be home. I'm traveling now. I'll probably be home fifteen 1:01:12.760 --> 1:01:15.600 days this month, and then I'm gonna be out. So 1:01:16.080 --> 1:01:20.000 even if we lived together, I still need time alone. 1:01:20.560 --> 1:01:23.600 It's not about another person. Sometimes we're so jealous of 1:01:24.120 --> 1:01:26.720 somebody's time. It's like, what are you doing with your time? 1:01:26.880 --> 1:01:31.680 That this wasn't this was? Actually sometimes it's been monogamous. 1:01:31.920 --> 1:01:36.120 I don't necessarily think that that's the case. I'm not 1:01:36.200 --> 1:01:41.000 a jealous person, but I also and I need more 1:01:41.200 --> 1:01:45.360 accessibility to time. I would say then I could share 1:01:45.400 --> 1:01:47.320 with if you had four girlfriends. But even if I 1:01:47.480 --> 1:01:50.120 was monogamous, so well, for me, I picked partners based 1:01:50.120 --> 1:01:52.400 on certain things. Even if for a monogamous you have 1:01:52.480 --> 1:01:55.760 to understand one of my time, my own, I can 1:01:55.800 --> 1:01:58.200 give you forty percent of it. I still have to work, right, 1:01:58.240 --> 1:02:00.240 you still got a life, of course, so I'll side 1:02:00.280 --> 1:02:02.680 of us, ree, lady, we still have lives. So if 1:02:02.720 --> 1:02:05.280 your life is not busy and full, it's gonna be 1:02:05.320 --> 1:02:07.000 hard for us to deal with each other because even 1:02:07.040 --> 1:02:09.200 if it's not another person, I gotta practice, I gotta train, 1:02:09.280 --> 1:02:12.480 I gotta travel. Honestly, it's life is life, and for me, 1:02:12.600 --> 1:02:14.760 I'm almost too busy to date some one. Pot amiss. 1:02:14.800 --> 1:02:16.480 Right now I'm dating someone on a different coast and 1:02:16.720 --> 1:02:20.280 we're like matching calendars to figure out what time works 1:02:20.360 --> 1:02:22.600 between whose work. How the fuck he have time for 1:02:22.760 --> 1:02:26.920 it I'm doing. I'm doing a Granted, if there was 1:02:26.960 --> 1:02:30.400 another person near by him to maybe fill up the days, sure, 1:02:30.640 --> 1:02:32.160 but I'll tell you right now that if I was 1:02:32.240 --> 1:02:34.040 coming to LA for forty eight hours and he had 1:02:34.040 --> 1:02:36.240 a date tomorrow, that wouldn't be a But that's the 1:02:36.280 --> 1:02:42.080 boundary you walk in. You can outside of sexual this conversation. 1:02:42.200 --> 1:02:45.800 I feel like then my last relationship was a poly relationship, 1:02:46.120 --> 1:02:48.680 and he had a problem with all of my partners. 1:02:48.680 --> 1:02:51.320 And when I say partners, I still gave a lot 1:02:51.360 --> 1:02:54.320 of time to my friends. So every Sunday I'm at 1:02:54.360 --> 1:02:58.320 a scient's watching this, I'm flying to Atlanta for Crystal, 1:02:58.480 --> 1:03:01.480 especially when she was going she was going through Keimo 1:03:01.600 --> 1:03:03.960 at one point, and I was making sure I got 1:03:04.080 --> 1:03:06.200 to go to Atlanta for this Medina comes up where 1:03:06.200 --> 1:03:09.040 I fly to support her like And that was one 1:03:09.200 --> 1:03:12.400 actually question that he had. He felt like confused as 1:03:12.440 --> 1:03:15.000 to how I could show up for all these other people, 1:03:15.320 --> 1:03:17.320 and I had to let him know, these people are 1:03:17.360 --> 1:03:19.120 in my life. You have to accept the time that 1:03:19.200 --> 1:03:21.320 I give them. I will give you the time that 1:03:21.400 --> 1:03:23.760 I can give you. But these people, even though we're 1:03:23.800 --> 1:03:27.440 in a relationship, that doesn't change. And the fact that 1:03:27.640 --> 1:03:30.000 a lot of them don't live here was one thing. 1:03:30.400 --> 1:03:32.400 He got a lot of my time. But we even 1:03:32.560 --> 1:03:36.040 argued sometimes because I always make time for my friends. 1:03:36.320 --> 1:03:37.960 So I would invite him out a lot of times, 1:03:38.000 --> 1:03:40.200 and I'd be with my friends because I still have 1:03:40.320 --> 1:03:43.760 to give them time and love and be attentive to 1:03:43.840 --> 1:03:46.120 their needs the same way I am for yours. So 1:03:46.280 --> 1:03:50.000 you actually explaining this makes me feel like going into 1:03:50.080 --> 1:03:53.160 my next relationship. Not to say that Polly always has 1:03:53.240 --> 1:03:55.000 to be sexual. I remember we had King nore On 1:03:55.120 --> 1:03:58.080 here and he talked about like, well, I'm not gonna 1:03:58.120 --> 1:04:00.880 like everything you like, so I have tout space for 1:04:01.120 --> 1:04:03.120 you to be able to do other things with other people. 1:04:03.200 --> 1:04:10.360 That you are very two different daters than I am, 1:04:10.680 --> 1:04:13.600 and there's nothing wrong with either. I expect when my 1:04:13.640 --> 1:04:15.520 friends get in a relationship, they have less time for me, 1:04:15.560 --> 1:04:18.400 and I have no issue with that, but not a 1:04:18.600 --> 1:04:24.560 fucking problem. But my end goal is children. So when 1:04:24.560 --> 1:04:27.320 I find a partner that I'm interested in and I'm 1:04:27.400 --> 1:04:31.919 seeing it go there, when I have kids, I'm really 1:04:32.040 --> 1:04:33.880 not going to be spread And like, being a mom 1:04:33.960 --> 1:04:37.040 is something I wanted before any other career passion. So 1:04:37.160 --> 1:04:40.200 when I'm starting to court and date a partner that 1:04:40.240 --> 1:04:43.960 i'm that I'm falling for, those relationships do dwindle. I 1:04:44.080 --> 1:04:46.000 make time for them, don't get me wrong, but like 1:04:46.400 --> 1:04:48.400 I ain't gonna be you just said every Sunday with 1:04:48.440 --> 1:04:50.600 a Sunday right, I have a homegirl every Friday I'm 1:04:50.640 --> 1:04:52.480 out to dinner with. That was just our thing in La. 1:04:52.880 --> 1:04:55.320 That's actually gone now because the dude that I'm dating 1:04:55.480 --> 1:04:57.600 is free now on these weekends right whereas the weeks 1:04:57.640 --> 1:04:59.520 are busy. So she expects that to be one because 1:04:59.520 --> 1:05:01.280 I need to know you're that for the future. I 1:05:01.400 --> 1:05:04.320 want I don't disagree with that, but I will say this. 1:05:04.520 --> 1:05:08.040 The reason why I invest time in the people that 1:05:08.120 --> 1:05:12.200 I love, regardless of our type of relationship, is if 1:05:12.280 --> 1:05:15.880 my partner dies, if my partner I break up, you 1:05:16.400 --> 1:05:17.920 have to hold space for the people that you just 1:05:18.120 --> 1:05:20.360 agreed because a lot of people let their friends go, 1:05:20.480 --> 1:05:22.440 which is really fucked out a lot of you. But 1:05:22.560 --> 1:05:26.600 I definitely prioritize like my parents, if you won't let 1:05:26.640 --> 1:05:29.360 your friends go for your relationship and your own person's success, 1:05:29.440 --> 1:05:31.600 don't do it for a person. So if you're not 1:05:31.720 --> 1:05:34.120 willing to give up time for your own success, I 1:05:34.200 --> 1:05:35.840 put time into practice in trump because I want to 1:05:35.880 --> 1:05:38.320 be successful. So that's my first relationship to self. If 1:05:38.320 --> 1:05:39.840 I can't give me that, I don't have time for 1:05:39.920 --> 1:05:42.560 nobody else but for me. And I think the happy 1:05:42.680 --> 1:05:45.000 medium is like what y'll both do, including the trumpet 1:05:45.040 --> 1:05:48.200 with them, I try to and then you letting him 1:05:48.360 --> 1:05:51.200 come out with friends, if you don't integrate your partner 1:05:51.280 --> 1:05:53.000 with your friendships, if you're actually going to give that 1:05:53.120 --> 1:05:54.800 much time, because this is one thing, I left it 1:05:54.880 --> 1:05:56.360 up to him because I'm not gonna lie. I'm a 1:05:56.440 --> 1:05:59.240 person I don't want to be involved with any of 1:05:59.320 --> 1:06:03.280 my friends in the partners, I don't want that person 1:06:03.320 --> 1:06:05.240 to be my friend, so I always let it up 1:06:05.280 --> 1:06:06.720 to him, Hey, if you want to see me, I'm 1:06:06.760 --> 1:06:08.840 out with this person right now. But I never like 1:06:09.000 --> 1:06:11.200 bombarded him with hanging with my friends. But if he 1:06:11.320 --> 1:06:13.560 wanted to see me, just know I'm showing up for 1:06:13.640 --> 1:06:15.920 someone else right now. You're more than welcome to join us. 1:06:16.240 --> 1:06:19.720 But that's really that's healthy. That's that's what I did 1:06:19.800 --> 1:06:21.800 with him, because it wasn't like I'm going to invite 1:06:21.840 --> 1:06:24.080 people out. I'm out. If you really want to see me, 1:06:24.280 --> 1:06:26.720 come join. But I also want to say I don't 1:06:26.760 --> 1:06:28.600 mean giving a partner like five days a week of 1:06:28.680 --> 1:06:30.440 my time. That's something I actually can't just afford to 1:06:30.480 --> 1:06:34.280 give right now. But if I really do have, like 1:06:34.440 --> 1:06:35.880 right now, I'm here in New York for five days, 1:06:35.920 --> 1:06:37.440 if I was seeing someone for five days in New 1:06:37.520 --> 1:06:39.840 York as many friends as I need to see, if 1:06:39.880 --> 1:06:42.600 I was dating someone, I might have to catch those 1:06:42.640 --> 1:06:45.560 home girls on the next trip to prioritize the relationship. 1:06:45.640 --> 1:06:49.000 That again, I have an end goal with a relationship 1:06:49.040 --> 1:06:52.400 for me right now, like motherhood, I'm thirty two years old. 1:06:52.440 --> 1:06:56.000 As Mandy just told me a few hours ago. I'm 1:06:56.080 --> 1:06:59.000 thirty one for another three weeks, but like, no, like 1:06:59.160 --> 1:07:01.800 my clock is tick and so it's like I'm a 1:07:01.960 --> 1:07:06.120 lot more intentional. And my bitch has been my bitches 1:07:06.160 --> 1:07:08.040 for everyo. Like we've been in the clothes forever. We 1:07:08.080 --> 1:07:10.920 even on trips forever. I much like you. We internationally 1:07:11.000 --> 1:07:12.520 trip with our friends, you know what I mean. And 1:07:12.720 --> 1:07:16.440 sometimes I have those waves with them that I appreciate 1:07:16.520 --> 1:07:18.320 that they understand too, because I kind of need that 1:07:18.440 --> 1:07:20.360 right now, you know what I mean, Like when I 1:07:20.480 --> 1:07:23.200 have more free time and I'm single as shit. Hell yeah, bitch, 1:07:23.240 --> 1:07:24.560 you got me in Italy for four weeks so we 1:07:24.600 --> 1:07:26.480 could trick off on a boat. But I do think 1:07:26.520 --> 1:07:28.680 in this minute now, we was just talking about you. 1:07:30.440 --> 1:07:34.040 Oh yeah, because we've about to go. We're talking about 1:07:34.120 --> 1:07:36.280 making time for friends except for you, and I said 1:07:36.320 --> 1:07:38.320 that Sundays would be every Sunday. We're about to go 1:07:38.440 --> 1:07:41.160 get drinks. Anyway, this is this is my friend and 1:07:41.240 --> 1:07:44.400 my my ex was jealous of in my Polly relationships. 1:07:45.960 --> 1:07:48.160 I didn't know I was Polly until now, but I'm 1:07:48.160 --> 1:07:51.240 Polly with my friendships and it's crazy because I love 1:07:51.320 --> 1:07:54.080 them and I let them know my friend got a 1:07:54.120 --> 1:07:56.960 family tree. Oh yeah, my friends come before my partners. 1:07:57.000 --> 1:07:59.280 My career comes before my partners. And that is something 1:07:59.360 --> 1:08:01.400 that they have to accept when they come into my life. 1:08:01.720 --> 1:08:03.840 And I tell people the same thing because it love. 1:08:03.880 --> 1:08:07.919 Don't pay bills. It showed up. Listen, I tell my partners, listen, 1:08:08.000 --> 1:08:09.840 if I have to work, the one thing I don't want, 1:08:09.840 --> 1:08:12.360 you don't don't complain about me working. You can complaining 1:08:12.360 --> 1:08:15.440 about me not given, not being intentive, not being intentional. 1:08:15.520 --> 1:08:18.639 A lot of things I have to work. I have goals. 1:08:19.120 --> 1:08:22.120 My life. Goals are more because my life goes more important. 1:08:22.160 --> 1:08:25.559 Videos you put out some cats in my life goes 1:08:25.560 --> 1:08:28.080 a very important. I love that it affords me the 1:08:28.439 --> 1:08:31.040 luxury and the things that I do enjoy. I love that. 1:08:31.360 --> 1:08:34.080 I love that. 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