Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Headboars at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. Okay, moving on, let's talk Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: this week Cowboys and the Buccaneers. Is that Cowboys have
Speaker 1: a chance to clinch the NFC East on Sunday at
Speaker 1: at and T Stadium. What a great Christmas that would
Speaker 1: make for Everybosolutely, Absolutely, it would be a great Christmas.
Speaker 1: I thought you might have started off with the Dearest
Speaker 1: Mother entry, but I'm playing oh yeah, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: There were some people on There were some people that
Speaker 1: were writing the dearest mother entries like we were able
Speaker 1: to survive the Cowboys mother. You know, some people were
Speaker 1: pretty creative. They were. He was quick to post right
Speaker 1: after the game yesterday, but I'm not I'm not going
Speaker 1: there was Mickey. Did he make it back from Indeed?
Speaker 1: He did. Okay, so I'm expect his arrival soon. Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I assume he's probably he's probably involved in some pretty
Speaker 1: serious banter with the locals. I'm waiting six weeks three,
Speaker 1: the fans waiting six weeks to go after it. We
Speaker 1: got we got, we got some dak anger. We got
Speaker 1: to get out there in the air, you know. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I can I can only imagine. Yeah. So anyway, um,
Speaker 1: twenty three nothing yesterday, first time in fifteen The most
Speaker 1: amazing thing about it, that's the first time in fifteen
Speaker 1: years that the Cowboys have been shut out in the
Speaker 1: game is the fact that Tom Brady and Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: were part of that one. Yeah, back in two thousand
Speaker 1: and three. Remember that was a Sunday night game, wasn't
Speaker 1: It wasn't a Sunday night game. Pretty cold at New
Speaker 1: England and New England, Yeah, I think it may have been, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Cowboys just couldn't move the ball. Well, it was
Speaker 1: a part of that administration at well thousand and three.
Speaker 1: Kent and I did that documentary on that season sort
Speaker 1: of with Parcels. You know, they got shut out twice
Speaker 1: that year. Tampa Bay got him earlier in the year,
Speaker 1: didn't they. That was a team that offensively was challenged, challenged,
Speaker 1: and they made the playoffs. It went ten and six.
Speaker 1: Ourselves took that garbage that we all got together and
Speaker 1: went to the playoffs with it. So I think of
Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks that the Cowboys went through during that era,
Speaker 1: the Parcels era, Yeah and um and nobody got shut out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was some there was some bad days. But but yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what that that game yesterday, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: You know, I know I've had I know, Robin I
Speaker 1: were kind of laughing out that. I don't know about you, Bill,
Speaker 1: but people on Twitter were kind of getting on me,
Speaker 1: like why don't you ever say anything good about the Cowboys?
Speaker 1: Why do you always say things about the other team?
Speaker 1: And I'm kind of like, it's kind of like my
Speaker 1: job to talk about the other team. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's when you when you play against an opponent that's
Speaker 1: a really I mean, that's a good football team that's
Speaker 1: not making stuff up right there. I mean that offensive line,
Speaker 1: we talked about their ability for protection. You know, we
Speaker 1: talked about some of their young defensive players. You know
Speaker 1: that that team. Now, the one thing that I did
Speaker 1: not realize is how well they could have run the football.
Speaker 1: That That's where I missed the boat in my evaluation.
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like that, you know, that they were
Speaker 1: going to be able to dominate up front like they
Speaker 1: were able to do in this game. You know that
Speaker 1: it was there was a lot of times where Layton
Speaker 1: vander esh and Jalen Smith and those guys were having
Speaker 1: to deal with blue shirts right on top of them.
Speaker 1: And that's not usually something that happens to the Cowboys
Speaker 1: linebackers because the front usually does a pretty good job
Speaker 1: of keeping them clean and allowing them to run. But man,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what that was. That was as impressive
Speaker 1: as and they got their center Kelly back, Brian Kelly,
Speaker 1: and he made a huge difference in this football game.
Speaker 1: Him and well Quenton Nelson. Those guys. We don't have
Speaker 1: to talk about those cats, even even that right tackle
Speaker 1: that they have Braden Smith. You know, man, I mean,
Speaker 1: they did a great job Braden Smith. If they If
Speaker 1: Braden Smith wants to get a contract extension, he had
Speaker 1: to he had to use this as one of his
Speaker 1: games because he held the Marcus Lawrence and check, you know,
Speaker 1: and that's for a rookie guy to do that. It's
Speaker 1: pretty impressive. That offensive line for the Colts was was
Speaker 1: outstanding run blocking, pass blocking, and to me, the run
Speaker 1: game was the difference for me, and you brought up
Speaker 1: Marlon Mack. They don't run it that much, but he's
Speaker 1: he came into this game averaging four point seven yards
Speaker 1: of kerries, so they can run the ball, and Uh
Speaker 1: and Jalen Smith talked about it afterwards. They just they
Speaker 1: didn't get the job done in that area, and that's
Speaker 1: what their defense starts with, that's what Marinelli preaches. And
Speaker 1: during the five game win streak which is now gone,
Speaker 1: sixty six yards on the ground allowed per game and
Speaker 1: they give up one hundred and seventy eight that's by
Speaker 1: far a season high. And Luck wasn't sacked either. He
Speaker 1: had all day, not all day, every play, but he
Speaker 1: was pretty comfortable back there. And you talked about it
Speaker 1: during the week. They're patient and take what they get
Speaker 1: you give them. They'll nickel and dime you if they
Speaker 1: need too. And he hit a couple of big shots,
Speaker 1: but they just kind of did what they wanted, you know,
Speaker 1: And that's just surprising. We don't expect that from this
Speaker 1: Dallas defense because they have been by far the most
Speaker 1: consistent part of this team this year. Kind of know
Speaker 1: how the Cowboys opponents felt in the two thy sixteen
Speaker 1: seasons with the domination of an offensive line. Sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's your team. Hello, Mickey, how are you? Good morning.
Speaker 1: I'm fine. How are you? I'm doing just fine. How
Speaker 1: was your trip to Indie outside of the three hours
Speaker 1: that you wish? Oh? Yeah, it was good. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: got home. Landed at seven oh five. Got off the
Speaker 1: plane at seven twenty five. I have to wait for
Speaker 1: Brad Sham in front of you. Oh, we drove forever.
Speaker 1: We should have flown a little further right, landed. We
Speaker 1: had to wait a little bit. Oh really, okay, get
Speaker 1: his bags together. You know, it was a long taxi.
Speaker 1: That'll happen on a Sunday night. My friend Keller said, See,
Speaker 1: this is what happens when the Cowboys losing lose because
Speaker 1: the guy's up in the control tower. They probably lost
Speaker 1: a bet. So they made us land on the furthest
Speaker 1: runway from where we had to live. That's the problem.
Speaker 1: That's the problem when the Cowboys aren't playing a primetime
Speaker 1: game too. When you're playing at noon on Sunday on
Speaker 1: the road, then you're getting back at seven o'clock at night.
Speaker 1: It's so busy in the airport at seven o'clock at
Speaker 1: now charter flight over the morning. Alight, So were they
Speaker 1: getting on you on the radio this morning? Why why
Speaker 1: are you late getting in here? Because they had a
Speaker 1: lot to talk about? Okay, yeah they upset? Are the
Speaker 1: masses upset? No? I don't, I don't think so. You know,
Speaker 1: sometimes you go out and you get your ass beat.
Speaker 1: And they got beat by a better team. Yeah they
Speaker 1: have better offensive line, not better defensive line. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: their offensive line dominated. And I think everybody forgets who
Speaker 1: did the Cowboys have on their offensive line for three quarters?
Speaker 1: You know, this next man up sounds very great, but
Speaker 1: when it's next next man up, yeah, you know you're
Speaker 1: getting yourself in trouble. Yea. And I thought it showed
Speaker 1: up in this game for three quarters. That's what I
Speaker 1: thought it all boiled down to. In retrospect after the game,
Speaker 1: got on the elliptical, thought it through, and it's all
Speaker 1: about it was all about the offensive lines in this game.
Speaker 1: And what and you mentioned they got Ryan Kelly back
Speaker 1: for Indianapolis. Quinton Nelson's going to be a perennial All Pro.
Speaker 1: It will be this year, in fact, as a rookie
Speaker 1: even and didn't you take a perennial All pro off
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offensive line. You got two of them already,
Speaker 1: even Travis Frederick. Obviously we've been dealing with that all season.
Speaker 1: Then you lose the guy who's been filling in at
Speaker 1: left guard, and it's it's a sort of a shambles
Speaker 1: over there. But that doesn't mean that they couldn't have
Speaker 1: competed all the way down to the wire in that game,
Speaker 1: even with the domination of the Colts offensive line. If
Speaker 1: they make certain plays, don't have a blocked field goal
Speaker 1: to start the game and give them a short field,
Speaker 1: and they still could have had a chance of winning
Speaker 1: the game. But the Colts, to their credit, took command
Speaker 1: of the game. No. I thought they did a great
Speaker 1: job Colts. I thought a great game plan. Defensively, flu
Speaker 1: Is called a great game for them. If you look
Speaker 1: at what he was able to do kind of create
Speaker 1: some opportunities. They put their young linebacker Darius Leonard in
Speaker 1: some covered situations. He was able to knock a couple
Speaker 1: of passes down. You know, they were able to get
Speaker 1: a couple of timely sacks taking advantage of some guys
Speaker 1: you know, setting at different levels there. They sacked you
Speaker 1: on a two man route by the way. The first
Speaker 1: sack of the game was a two man route and
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz is trying to block his guy and Zeke
Speaker 1: kind of runs into his back and then it throws
Speaker 1: Dalton Scholtz off and Dak really kind of has to,
Speaker 1: you know, hast to kind of you know, maneuver around
Speaker 1: that and all. But yeah, it was it was tough.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's you know, they they missed some they
Speaker 1: missed some throws. They had a couple of guys open,
Speaker 1: and you know that that's what's going to happen. I've
Speaker 1: learned this though. When this defense doesn't play very well,
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose. Well, that's what I've learned about this
Speaker 1: football team. Yeah, for sure. I mean this defense carries
Speaker 1: his football team. It's not the offense. Well, because the
Speaker 1: offense can still make the same mistakes that they do.
Speaker 1: They were down ten nothing at halftime. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: went back and I just because to your point, I
Speaker 1: thought the same thing. Cowboys offensively even during the six
Speaker 1: game winning stream at thirty nine plays in the first
Speaker 1: three series, right oh yeah. Dominated NFL research said it's
Speaker 1: the longest a team has held the ball in a
Speaker 1: first half when scored boring scoring since Green Bay in
Speaker 1: the season open or last year for over nineteen minutes,
Speaker 1: almost twenty minutes, and let and won the yardage battle.
Speaker 1: You guys spoke about the block field goal. They had
Speaker 1: yet another goal to go situation where they can't score
Speaker 1: no points at all because they get stopped on fourth down.
Speaker 1: I think Zeke technically fumbled. They said it was a fumble, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he got hit at the five yard line when
Speaker 1: it's it did fourth and one at the three didn't matter.
Speaker 1: They didn't get the fourth down. And then they're driving.
Speaker 1: They're they're inside the forty before the half and Dak
Speaker 1: takes a ten yard loss on a sack. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it knocks him out of field goal range. And so
Speaker 1: I think they had three drives in a row to
Speaker 1: start the game, ten plus plays, fifteen fourteen plays. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get nothing out of it. And that has happened
Speaker 1: to this team this year, even during the win streak.
Speaker 1: I looked it up. During the five game winning streak,
Speaker 1: they averaged twelve first half points even in those games,
Speaker 1: and they need a little time to get going, and
Speaker 1: they didn't have that time this game because the Colts offensively.
Speaker 1: We talked about what they did. They got a big
Speaker 1: lead and they kept it. I just never felt like
Speaker 1: they were going to stop the Colts. Right watch, they
Speaker 1: scored on six meaningful possessions were leading up to the
Speaker 1: five minute mark of the fourth quarter. They scored on
Speaker 1: five of the sixth possession. I think, I think I
Speaker 1: looked this sep with my masks right that when their
Speaker 1: first half they averaged of their drives, they averaged four
Speaker 1: and a half first downs a series. You know, think
Speaker 1: about that. I mean, they were just they're just kind
Speaker 1: of moving along. They're blocking you, they're blocking your front,
Speaker 1: they're you know, you're trying to do some things. You're
Speaker 1: not tackling worth a damn. And some tackles missing tackles
Speaker 1: in that game. I mean, you know, you got some
Speaker 1: guys that normally tackle pretty well that missed some tackles,
Speaker 1: you know. And having said all that, they only drove
Speaker 1: for one touchdown the Colts. It's one that started the
Speaker 1: second half. And I sat in my seat when the
Speaker 1: second half started and I said, this possession is going
Speaker 1: to decide the game, because if they don't stop them,
Speaker 1: and it's seventeen to nothing, this team's not capable of
Speaker 1: coming back. From seventeen to nothing the way they want
Speaker 1: to play offense, the first touchdown thanks to the block
Speaker 1: field goal, right, yeah, and with three seconds to go
Speaker 1: in the half, it's still even than nothing. Right. So
Speaker 1: all this notion that they didn't come out and play
Speaker 1: they were flat, well, somebody was playing, right, because they
Speaker 1: shut them down until they gave up the field goal.
Speaker 1: And it's still only ten nothing, right, so you know
Speaker 1: they wait, wait, am I not right? They shut them down?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't following you. What was the score touchdowns?
Speaker 1: But let's take for in. No, I'm not saying the
Speaker 1: Cowboys offense the Colts offense. Okay, they scored the touchdowns
Speaker 1: on off the block kick. They only have to go
Speaker 1: forty four yards. But the Colts get the ball back
Speaker 1: with one fifty three to play in the first half,
Speaker 1: and they drive it from their own sixteen yard line
Speaker 1: to the Cowboy twenty five yard line to kick a
Speaker 1: field goal to make it ten nothing at the half. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's only ten nothing, it's only ten nothing, but it's
Speaker 1: still Yeah, they didn't score a touchdown on that drive,
Speaker 1: but they drove a one hundred and seventy nine yards
Speaker 1: I got you. I got you, I mean, but it's
Speaker 1: still nothing. Every possession of the game. I wrote it down,
Speaker 1: all their possessions. Where is it. They went forty four
Speaker 1: yards in eight plays for a touchdown? Yeah, Then they
Speaker 1: went second quarter sixty three yards and eleven plays and punted.
Speaker 1: That was the only time they did not score against
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Was that the penalty ridden? But what tribe
Speaker 1: was it when they got all the penalties? Guy, I
Speaker 1: think it was that one. Yeah, and then it was
Speaker 1: ended up being third and thirty, I think is what
Speaker 1: happened there? Yep, yep. But they hit they hit some
Speaker 1: huge plays on you in that one. That's right, and okay,
Speaker 1: So then they go with they get the ball with
Speaker 1: two minutes left and a half. That was only their
Speaker 1: third position. They only had the ball three times, three
Speaker 1: times half. The Cowboys offense was holding the ball for
Speaker 1: so long, and they went fifty nine yards in twelve
Speaker 1: plays to kick a field goal. Then they start the
Speaker 1: third quarter, they go seventy five yards in eight plays
Speaker 1: for a touchdown to make it seventeen nothing. Then they
Speaker 1: get the ball back later in the third quarter, they
Speaker 1: go sixty three yards in ten plays for a field goal,
Speaker 1: and then fifty six yards and twelve plays in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter and it's twenty three to nothing. I mean,
Speaker 1: but they were were kicking field, but they're holding the foot.
Speaker 1: They held the football in the second half more than
Speaker 1: the Cowboys held the football in the first half. They
Speaker 1: had the ball for twenty one minutes in six seconds
Speaker 1: in the second half of that game. Yeah, but my
Speaker 1: point is in the first half, when everybody says they
Speaker 1: didn't show up, nobody said it. They didn't show Oh
Speaker 1: that's what's well, we're saying that I didn't say, you
Speaker 1: said it. We're giving Colts credit for what they did.
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm saying that. Folks out there are saying, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't show up. They got fat and happy. Well,
Speaker 1: they were playing, they just weren't playing well enough. The
Speaker 1: Colts have won seven of the last eight games for
Speaker 1: a reason exactly. And and if you if you drop
Speaker 1: a touchdown pass, okay, if you get a field goal
Speaker 1: blocked and give them a short field to start, it's
Speaker 1: like a turnover, right, and you're gonna and you fall
Speaker 1: behind against a team with that quality offensive line. They're
Speaker 1: gonna do to you what you like to do to
Speaker 1: other teams, and you know, we talked about it last week.
Speaker 1: Brian brought it up. We agreed. Are you a little
Speaker 1: worried about the kicker? That kick was low? Yeah, the
Speaker 1: guy blocked it with his armpit, I'm sorry, and he
Speaker 1: didn't jump. Yeah it was I mean, he got a
Speaker 1: little penetration, but still, then you went back and looked
Speaker 1: at it. Yeah, it was between I thought it was
Speaker 1: off the right side. It was actually between Sue of
Speaker 1: Philo and then Lattisur, so it was on the left
Speaker 1: side actually, yeah, Autry came from here there right side. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was on the Cults right side, your left side.
Speaker 1: I thought maybe it started from that other side, from
Speaker 1: the Cowboys right, but it wasn't. It was from the
Speaker 1: left side. That's because TV didn't show to poor. We
Speaker 1: really didn't see it, and we really didn't know what
Speaker 1: was going on. And we know the ball was on
Speaker 1: the ground and all that, and they were showing like
Speaker 1: the crowd and stuff like that. It was kind of
Speaker 1: a crazy sequence there, but yeah, it was. It was
Speaker 1: Sue of Philo and between him and Latisur there on
Speaker 1: that left side. And he never got a chance to
Speaker 1: redeem himself obviously there was they were at the twenty
Speaker 1: six late in the game. I thought they might kick
Speaker 1: the field goal fourth and twelve, But that's not the
Speaker 1: way Jason Garrett thinks. You know, you think, you go
Speaker 1: for it, you try to get a touchdown with three
Speaker 1: minutes and change left and kicking on side and keep
Speaker 1: this thing extend the game. But you know, well, at
Speaker 1: that point you're thinking, I mean, it's crazy, but you're
Speaker 1: down twenty three nothing. I mean, you're thinking, it's a
Speaker 1: three score game. You got to do in two point
Speaker 1: conversion three times, right, And so he went for and
Speaker 1: I don't want to you know, he did go for
Speaker 1: it on fourth down five times. He did for five,
Speaker 1: but he went for it on fourth down. So yeah,
Speaker 1: So did you like the decision to go four on
Speaker 1: fourth and one after Ola Wally dropped the pass? You know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm banking on it. That I The interesting
Speaker 1: thing that happened on that play was they got in
Speaker 1: thirteen personnel and they tried to run it away from
Speaker 1: the strength. And what happened on the play was that
Speaker 1: Marcus Hunt was playing on the left side of of
Speaker 1: Looney's shoulder on the left side, So what happened was
Speaker 1: when Looney went for the hard reach to his left.
Speaker 1: They were running everything trying to get it to go
Speaker 1: to the left. Margus Hunt went behind him and then
Speaker 1: Connor Williams got caught like you see Collins trying to
Speaker 1: push him to get him over to get in the
Speaker 1: a gap to take Margus Hunt. But he's he's locked
Speaker 1: up on Autry and they So what happens is when
Speaker 1: Hunt swims him and then he's able to redirect, Elliot
Speaker 1: had nowhere to go. I mean, it was just a
Speaker 1: clean but it was a great move. It was a
Speaker 1: great move by Hunt, not only to show I'm in
Speaker 1: the right gap, now I'm in the left gap and
Speaker 1: then redirect. But they just couldn't get him cut off.
Speaker 1: And you know, again you have a rookie playing right
Speaker 1: guard and you got to tackle trying to push him
Speaker 1: to get him into the into the gap, and it
Speaker 1: doesn't work. That's it. Yeah, absolutely they did. There was
Speaker 1: no way you got the NFL's leading rusher. Sure you
Speaker 1: got four fourth and one, you gotta go for it
Speaker 1: there touchdown about third down. I thought the third down
Speaker 1: call was actually pretty good. Oh yeah, and he had
Speaker 1: he had, he got what he wanted. Out of the
Speaker 1: play because he's runner run Rico gathers across, he's gonna
Speaker 1: have he's gonna have Jarwin on the backside coming and
Speaker 1: they're gonna run a pick that. If he wanted that,
Speaker 1: they could have done that. You know. I was trying
Speaker 1: to think, did dat need to float the ball because
Speaker 1: of the defenders. But Walker was far enough to the
Speaker 1: inside where if he could kind of put it on
Speaker 1: the line. What happened olda Wally's feet got or bad.
Speaker 1: He almost tripped on the goal. Yeah, he his feet
Speaker 1: were really bad. And it might have worked if you
Speaker 1: throw it on him that he catches it cradle wise
Speaker 1: and just falls in. But he couldn't because they were
Speaker 1: two defenders there. And well I looked at that Mickey
Speaker 1: and and and from the end zone copy the defenders
Speaker 1: Walker being one of them. They were inside enough where
Speaker 1: I thought I thought initially, I said, Okay, he's got
Speaker 1: to float that ball. But it wasn't. It wasn't. When
Speaker 1: you watch the end zone copy of it, there's a
Speaker 1: good line of site that he could have. He could
Speaker 1: have he could have fit that thing because he had separation.
Speaker 1: He had separation on the safety odom uh, you know
Speaker 1: Odom was trying to run over and cover and he
Speaker 1: their separation there and then Walker was trying to get
Speaker 1: over to make the play, but he just couldn't get
Speaker 1: in the line of sight. I thought he could have
Speaker 1: just you know the other wing about old a Wally,
Speaker 1: He's been a decent receip he could catch. The guy
Speaker 1: could catch. He can catch, but he couldn't make his
Speaker 1: third reception of the season. Yeah, yeah, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a unique play call because again you're taking advantage of
Speaker 1: a guy that doesn't get the football all that much, right,
Speaker 1: but the way didn't even get it. Yeah, but then
Speaker 1: we wonder why, okay, well why did they have a
Speaker 1: golden gold problems? Well, they have a cold Beasley drop.
Speaker 1: They have an older Wally stumble. They wonder how he
Speaker 1: did in practice this week on practice and that I
Speaker 1: bet they caught that one. I bet I bet he
Speaker 1: caught it. Every time. I wonder, I wonder if it
Speaker 1: came up the pass because I thought when Dak initially
Speaker 1: did it that he wanted to run. Yeah, they stopped
Speaker 1: that right they got to the outside and it was like, okay,
Speaker 1: now I gotta throw it. It also looked like he
Speaker 1: might have lost it in the lights. No, he let
Speaker 1: me ask you this. Guys looked away before he can.
Speaker 1: I ask you a question, Mickey and Rob, because you
Speaker 1: guys are in the stadium. Were they going away from
Speaker 1: that side of the stadium that has sunlight to it?
Speaker 1: Were they going into there's a there's an area that's
Speaker 1: open away from it. They were going away, So he
Speaker 1: was looking back into like the natural light. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: that was the window side right, Yeah, going was he
Speaker 1: going towards the big window side left? They look like
Speaker 1: the jar one play. He was looking into the sun. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: I was just wondering if he lost it. Sometimes in
Speaker 1: that gray when you inter that stadium, you can look
Speaker 1: there's those it's like it's like our stadium. He's got
Speaker 1: that big glass and I'm thinking, I wonder if he
Speaker 1: was looking back into and lost the ball in that
Speaker 1: area again back and look he turned his head. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm just not trying to I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to make excuses. I'm just saying there is a
Speaker 1: part of that stadium that's like at and T where
Speaker 1: it's wound and you could see and if you look
Speaker 1: back into it, it might you know, make your vision
Speaker 1: a little Yeah, I don't know. He should have thrown
Speaker 1: the ball on the line. Okay, So what about the
Speaker 1: Jarwin drop because Charles Davis on boll I thought he
Speaker 1: I thought Jarwin's gonna pull that one down. But but
Speaker 1: to me it was that's tough. That's the one that
Speaker 1: was on fourth down that they third down, third down.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that third down he threw it up and
Speaker 1: then defender or hit him after. Yeah, the ball was
Speaker 1: in his hands. He couldn't bring it down. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: couldn't bring it down. Made a hell of a play
Speaker 1: on that he did. But Charles Davis was the reason
Speaker 1: I bring it up. Charles Davis, the TV analyst was
Speaker 1: getting on deck a little bit for floating it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for not putting it out in front of a little more.
Speaker 1: It was a drop, y, okay, and the defensive player
Speaker 1: from having to play too. But yeah, yeah, it wasn't
Speaker 1: a bad pass, no. I I thought the ball hit
Speaker 1: Jarwin's hands right, and then as he's trying to pull
Speaker 1: it down like this year, I think it was made
Speaker 1: the play yeah, last second, the absolutely yeah, and then
Speaker 1: you you make the you go for it on fourth
Speaker 1: down and you make the nice conversion and you get
Speaker 1: a holding call. Yeah, well beastly catch for each Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean nothing nothing went right. I mean Dak said
Speaker 1: it half a dozen times. We never gave ourselves a
Speaker 1: chance and that gets and he's right. I mean they
Speaker 1: they beat themselves in that first half and really it
Speaker 1: was too late, you know, and then I think the
Speaker 1: whole analysis. I appreciate Mickey saying this, they got their
Speaker 1: ass kicked. And I said it on our internet show.
Speaker 1: I didn't say on our TV show because yeah, you
Speaker 1: can't say you can't just kind of far off of
Speaker 1: hey they got their ass kids say that on the
Speaker 1: TV show, but on Switzer did Yeah, well a lot
Speaker 1: Switcher's a lot more famous than me. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I agree with Mickey. I think this was one of
Speaker 1: those games where they really they got their ass kicked.
Speaker 1: They really did. I mean both sides. You think about
Speaker 1: really what they did. They you know, the Colts took
Speaker 1: it to The Colts looked like the t was trying
Speaker 1: to win the division. Dallas, it's like a team Dallas
Speaker 1: looked like a team that was trying to get to
Speaker 1: the you know, had one foot in the parking lot.
Speaker 1: They didn't play with the They didn't play with near
Speaker 1: the intensity. Now they quit, No they didn't, but they
Speaker 1: but the Colts just physically beat them up. I think that.
Speaker 1: I think that's right there. We could do the whole
Speaker 1: show and talk about them just getting their ass kicked.
Speaker 1: And when you could hear the offensive lines, we talked
Speaker 1: about what the Colts offensive line did. But Cowboys gave
Speaker 1: up three sacks. But they're also four holding calls on
Speaker 1: the offensive line a fifth if you include Lattice oars
Speaker 1: On on a punt. But um, I mean, and you know,
Speaker 1: but we had we had Cowboy fans on Twitter tell
Speaker 1: them and I love you guys, but saying, oh, they're
Speaker 1: holding every time their offensive line. There's a reason why
Speaker 1: Luck's only been sacked fifteen times this year. They put
Speaker 1: on a clinic yesterday they did and in the running
Speaker 1: game getting to the second level. Oh yeah, on the linebackers,
Speaker 1: I mean that was teach that what they did yesterday.
Speaker 1: You got to give them credit. They did a great job.
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Speaker 1: on talking cowboys. Hello, film a build. It's an honor.
Speaker 1: Could be the number one year, uh A. Briana promised
Speaker 1: not to try to pick any low hanging fruits. So
Speaker 1: but my point is this morning, it's not about bashing
Speaker 1: any particular individual. But eventually I'd like to ask a
Speaker 1: question about that. But anyway, Uh, you studied players and
Speaker 1: scouting and and maybe you get into their uh their
Speaker 1: their philosophies or their psyche or whatever. But but something happened,
Speaker 1: Uh maybe before the game, maybe during the game, but
Speaker 1: something happened where a collective mindset seemed to permeate the
Speaker 1: offense and the defense, and they both decided, you know
Speaker 1: that that they were they were they were all gonna
Speaker 1: most of them were gonna play flat except for Zeke,
Speaker 1: you know, who gave it as usual. And I was
Speaker 1: wondering what your thoughts were, are you guys thoughts were
Speaker 1: on that? How that? How does a collective mindset manifest itself?
Speaker 1: You know, not just in the pro teams, but high school,
Speaker 1: college whatever. You know, when a team that that it's
Speaker 1: supposed to beat I'm not saying they were they were
Speaker 1: supposed to beat the coast. They should have or could have,
Speaker 1: but but something happened to to reduce their their focus
Speaker 1: or their desire or something. And the only thing I
Speaker 1: wanted to say about the offense was that, you know,
Speaker 1: knowing that that, I think maybe possibly knowing that Zack
Speaker 1: Martin was out. And then when Sue Philo goes down,
Speaker 1: it was like we were going back to the future
Speaker 1: before Sue Philo came on board and strengthened the push
Speaker 1: of the offensive line and and dak Uh as great
Speaker 1: as he was last week, I don't think he's at
Speaker 1: the point of being able to to to elevate the
Speaker 1: play of of average players or players that just come
Speaker 1: in and he Uh, he's gonna get I questioned the
Speaker 1: tootlage because I saw the look on his face when when, uh,
Speaker 1: who's the guy kelling Moore walks up to him and
Speaker 1: during the game, and it was like I saw this
Speaker 1: look on his face like I've never seen before, Like
Speaker 1: he was just like during the headlines almost And I'm
Speaker 1: just wondering. I questioned if if Martin kell Moore takes
Speaker 1: the is continuing with the toutelage. Uh, he's gonna eventually
Speaker 1: the label he's got of making bad decisions or holding
Speaker 1: the ball too long, He's just gonna stick and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be with him for a long time. And just
Speaker 1: wanted your guys thoughts on that. Where do we need
Speaker 1: to start, maybe about the collective mindset. Yeah, Mickey told
Speaker 1: us that he didn't feel like that they they started
Speaker 1: the game correctly. I mean, they started, you know, the
Speaker 1: intense scene, so they just didn't finish right. And I
Speaker 1: agree with him on that. I do. They are now
Speaker 1: ranked thirty first in red zone efficiency, yeah, and thirty
Speaker 1: second in goal to go situation, both both under fifty percent.
Speaker 1: That's what. That's all you need to know right there
Speaker 1: at thirty eight thirty nine plays and they don't get
Speaker 1: any points. That's all you need to know. Has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with desire or want or anything like that.
Speaker 1: I just I go back to me. This is pretty simple.
Speaker 1: This is pretty simple. This was This was Yeah, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys gave effort. Yeah, it played a better team yesterday.
Speaker 1: And I know that sounds really simplistic for the the
Speaker 1: gentleman Louisiana, but but it's but it's the truth. You know,
Speaker 1: if you go player for player, you would say, okay,
Speaker 1: we'll take this guy. You could have this guy. You
Speaker 1: can there's a lot of you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: even things offensive lines. I don't think we're even I
Speaker 1: don't think that was even no quarterback. They clearly won
Speaker 1: that battle. You won the running back battle. You probably
Speaker 1: say that Vander esh and Darius Leonard were a wash. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, but you take the running back battle, but
Speaker 1: they're running back player too, because their offensive line was better.
Speaker 1: Right now. You went into this game probably thinking, you
Speaker 1: know what, the Cowboys gonna stop the run. Because if
Speaker 1: it's stopping the run all year, and they're gonna make
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck have to throw the football, that's the friends
Speaker 1: for me. That they didn't do that, that's what they
Speaker 1: do every Shame on me that I had to look
Speaker 1: at the flip card to find out what Mac's first
Speaker 1: name was. I thought it was a guy that was
Speaker 1: playing in Cleveland back in the day that Marty Schottenheimer fumbles.
Speaker 1: Kevin Mack. It's way over my head. Mack Mack Marlins
Speaker 1: out of South Florida. He was averaging he was a
Speaker 1: good player coming out of college. He was averaging forty
Speaker 1: eight yards a game. But he was averaging four places.
Speaker 1: It was forty array game. I care because he can
Speaker 1: run the ball. They don't run it that much. Well
Speaker 1: why not? They ran it yesterday? They did. They took
Speaker 1: advantage of Dallas, and Dallas is supposed to be a
Speaker 1: pretty good defensive front. They just yesterday they didn't play
Speaker 1: like it. But I don't think that you know, the
Speaker 1: collective mind, you know, I'm not doctor Phil. You know
Speaker 1: it's hard to you know, you get to ask these
Speaker 1: players what theyre and I hate that question. Well how
Speaker 1: are you feeling out there today? I mean where when
Speaker 1: did they decide? When did they decide not to play
Speaker 1: the first series of the second half. Yeah, it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: we're done. Yeody did that? And the outlay when they
Speaker 1: don't quit for Garrett. I know that they don't quit
Speaker 1: on Garrett. I haven't seen, but I don't. I just
Speaker 1: feel like that the Cults, the Colts in that game
Speaker 1: yesterday were the war physical team, the team that executed better,
Speaker 1: and they got the victory because of it. It's pretty simple.
Speaker 1: I thought. I thought so too. When you get your
Speaker 1: ass handed to you like that, it's pretty simple. You know.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of oh well, what we should
Speaker 1: have could have? No, you physically couldn't stop the run.
Speaker 1: You couldn't get any pressure, you couldn't block their front,
Speaker 1: you couldn't you couldn't protect your their quarterback, you're running back.
Speaker 1: Every time he handed them the ball, he came limping
Speaker 1: off the field. That showed you a little bit about
Speaker 1: that too. Gave up a block field goal. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: did everything that everything they had to do to win
Speaker 1: the game. That's not a that's not a collective thought.
Speaker 1: That is a that is a it's effort, that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's desire. Those are those things and yesterday they were
Speaker 1: they were better. And when when you have a drop
Speaker 1: touchdown pass, when you have holding calls that negate first
Speaker 1: down making plays the what week is this? What week
Speaker 1: is this in the NFLC fourteen fourteen? Yeah? That how
Speaker 1: mean that was fifteenth week? Week fifty? Just say, okay,
Speaker 1: week fifteen. I was trying to get you guys say
Speaker 1: week fifty. But haven't we kind of talked about the
Speaker 1: same things about this offense for fifteen weeks. I mean
Speaker 1: they last five weeks. It's been a little bit different
Speaker 1: because they still turned the ball over and winning games.
Speaker 1: They still were able to make it. They made some plays.
Speaker 1: You know, yesterday their big time receiver didn't have a
Speaker 1: great game. Nice reverse though. By the way, if they'd
Speaker 1: gotten one more block, you might have scored four catches
Speaker 1: thirty two yards. Okay, Yeah, that's a that's a really
Speaker 1: that's a bummer. That's a bummer. That's a that's a
Speaker 1: that's a committee day. You know Pria Marii Cooper, but
Speaker 1: you know you you look at but we we've been
Speaker 1: talking about this offense and a lot of their deficiencies
Speaker 1: the entire season, you know, and now Rob's Rob's been
Speaker 1: pointing out to us every week. They're twenty seventh in
Speaker 1: red zone. They're twenty eight this week. Why god, guys
Speaker 1: are dropped down to thirty two. That's kind of where
Speaker 1: this is at with this offense. And it's frustrating for
Speaker 1: them because they're they know they can move the ball.
Speaker 1: Like we mentioned, they have holding penalty, they do it. Sacks,
Speaker 1: they have sacks. They they they they they dropped the
Speaker 1: ball in the on the five yard line. You know,
Speaker 1: they miss throws that. I don't know what kind of
Speaker 1: throw that was to Alan Hearns, but throw it to
Speaker 1: the pyline, right, But you know what he did, throw
Speaker 1: it to the piline. Herns was looking inside the deep
Speaker 1: pass to the end. Yeah, but but the ball went behind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said he needed to. That's what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: Alan Hearns doesn't always win. Alan Herns doesn't win. But
Speaker 1: Herns was looking inside the the am I we're talking
Speaker 1: about the same one. Are you talking you might be
Speaker 1: talking about the one to Noah Brown. No, it was
Speaker 1: the one to Hearns on the right on the side
Speaker 1: was incomplete to his left. Yeah, he was looking here,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, well, this was a fade back shoulder
Speaker 1: fade here and there was room, but there was no
Speaker 1: you'll see it, Mickey, I did see it. I replayed
Speaker 1: it three times. Okay, I don't want to argue with
Speaker 1: you about that. Well, I'm just saying the ball needed
Speaker 1: to be out front. He was open. What do you
Speaker 1: mean out front? Out front towards he could he could
Speaker 1: have run under the ball where he read the problem
Speaker 1: that Dak had. Did you see the safety in the
Speaker 1: middle field? Yes, where was the safety? He wasn't anywhere
Speaker 1: that was gonna gause a problem. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The safety had turned inside. They were They showed cover
Speaker 1: two and rotated to three like the same, and he
Speaker 1: rotated inside. So if he throws the ball, if he
Speaker 1: throws the ball at the pylon instead of behind, the
Speaker 1: defender never looked for the ball. Wilson never turned his
Speaker 1: head for the ball. And if he throws the ball
Speaker 1: down the field, he runs under it and is in
Speaker 1: the end zone. But instead he throws it back. He
Speaker 1: why he would throw it back shoulder in that situation,
Speaker 1: I have no idea. There was no reason to throw
Speaker 1: you throw it back. You're saying the same thing. You're saying,
Speaker 1: he threw back shoulder, that's what. But you don't throw
Speaker 1: it back shoulder. If the say you throw it back shoulder,
Speaker 1: if the safety's driving out of the middle, the safety
Speaker 1: was nowhere to be found. You throw the ball in
Speaker 1: the hole. You don't have back shoulder, And that's no,
Speaker 1: you don't. If you're a receiver, you ought to look
Speaker 1: for where the ball is. Okay, Dak said he needed
Speaker 1: to throw it. Well, of course he did. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna say her and screwed up. He should
Speaker 1: quarter do that. That's the case, you know that. But
Speaker 1: about the team playing flat, when you don't make plays,
Speaker 1: when you don't execute um, then it comes it looks
Speaker 1: like they're flat. You know. It's like in baseball when
Speaker 1: a team goes up against a pitcher in baseball and
Speaker 1: it looks like and they don't and the pitchers in
Speaker 1: control of the game. That's what that game was like yesterday.
Speaker 1: And it looks it looks like your hitters are flat. Well, no,
Speaker 1: they're just being dominated. And then the hitters will say,
Speaker 1: we had a bad approach, but you left a lot
Speaker 1: of uh guys on bass stranded in the first half.
Speaker 1: That's really what, right, Yeah, that's that's this team done.
Speaker 1: And then you gave up a couple of home runs
Speaker 1: in the second half, you know, later innings, you know,
Speaker 1: and they couldn't overcome it, you know. I mean that's
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley said, our offense should never go scoreless, we
Speaker 1: should never be shut out with what we have, and
Speaker 1: he's right, because they do have talent on I know
Speaker 1: the offensive line was compromised and has been compromised. But
Speaker 1: that Oh three team you know you're leading, You're leading
Speaker 1: receiver that year was your fullback Richie Anderson. They've got
Speaker 1: weapons on this team and they're frustrated by it because
Speaker 1: they're not finishing drives. And that's you can't ask your
Speaker 1: defense to be dominant every single week. They just played
Speaker 1: a better team yesterday, the first time in six weeks.
Speaker 1: They couldn't overcome their own state. That is right, that's
Speaker 1: exactly right. Before they were making mistakes, they were overcoming.
Speaker 1: When the defense plays poorly, they're gonna lose games. That's
Speaker 1: that's that's the m O of this team. That when
Speaker 1: the defense plays poorly, that's they're gonna lose games. That
Speaker 1: that's that's just the way it is. And credit Matt
Speaker 1: Eberflus for what he's doing with that Colts defense. Absolutely
Speaker 1: right now, absolutely, yep. Sure is that they've got some
Speaker 1: good players over there. I mean, they don't have household names.
Speaker 1: Indianapolis is not a team that you're sitting there, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop down and watch the Colts, but you should.
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck he's healthy, he's healthy, they keep him up right.
Speaker 1: He's got a coach that calls a good game for
Speaker 1: They don't play, they don't make stupid mistakes. I want
Speaker 1: to play that team in the wildcard round or in
Speaker 1: the second. They might not get in if they don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if they get in the mean Baltimore. Baltimore is holding
Speaker 1: the last seed there. Yea, they might not get in.
Speaker 1: That's pretty amazing. Win seven of eight and they might
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Speaker 1: you're next up here on Talking Cowboys. Hello Peyton. And
Speaker 1: while in Boston they've lost two December games in a
Speaker 1: row for the first time in sixteen years. The Patriots
Speaker 1: have Yeah, I know, actually so this actually paying for Minneapolis.
Speaker 1: Actually just moved out here. But yeah, you think it's
Speaker 1: like the end of the world out here with the
Speaker 1: what's happening to them? But thanks, Bob. No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I was thinking of Bob, just
Speaker 1: reason I'm like, yeah, all right, I'm Billy Bob um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just wanted to say real quick, um
Speaker 1: for the five game winning streak. I mean this might
Speaker 1: sound crazy, but like I just felt like it wasn't sustainable.
Speaker 1: Well now you can say, well they won five in
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Speaker 1: it was the offense is awful for the first quarter, awful,
Speaker 1: the second quarter awful, the third quarter defenses lights out.
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Speaker 1: But when that doesn't work out, like we've seen this
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Speaker 1: within one possession of the offense can't do anything, then
Speaker 1: this team just stands no chance. And I think finally
Speaker 1: that winning formula quote unquote that we saw this past
Speaker 1: five weeks, it just it didn't it couldn't keep up.
Speaker 1: And uh so that's just one point I wanted to make.
Speaker 1: And then my second point too, has this team beat
Speaker 1: a team that has like a standout linebacker? I mean
Speaker 1: maybe you can see the say the Jaguars, but I
Speaker 1: mean they just lost the Josh Johnson and the Redskins,
Speaker 1: so I don't think they qualified. How lost that team too?
Speaker 1: Did Jacksonville? Right? Yeah, that's not what I'm saying. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys like Jacksonville, right, I mean, yeah, it's a weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah we're dead, Yeah, weird lady like you say rather Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I don't mean like the Falcons didn't have Deondon
Speaker 1: Jones Cowboys on that game, which is I feel like
Speaker 1: whenever they play against a standout linebacker like the same,
Speaker 1: they don't have a linebacker that scares you. Eagles don't
Speaker 1: have one. Uh, the Lions don't have one. Panthers that
Speaker 1: Lutickley they beat you. Lesley Woodyard of the Titans beat you.
Speaker 1: The guy from Vanderbilt that you like brought us in
Speaker 1: the draft on the Texans they beat you. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just feel like they just really stut on. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure this has to do with Joe Looney and
Speaker 1: no Travis reject So thanks taking my call, guys, it's
Speaker 1: a good call right there. Yeah, you know what I
Speaker 1: first got to the end there he even nail on
Speaker 1: the head. Oh he was good, and he's good. He
Speaker 1: was kind of going along. I liked it on his
Speaker 1: first point. You know, I talked about this earlier, and
Speaker 1: he's right. I mean, it takes the offense a while
Speaker 1: to get going in this wind streak. Philly fourteen point
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, Atlanta sixteen point fourth quarter, last Philly game
Speaker 1: fourteen and the fourth quarter they didn't have they weren't
Speaker 1: you know, the game was lost by then. You know,
Speaker 1: they didn't have a chance to make that late run
Speaker 1: like they've been doing. And again I speak to it,
Speaker 1: twelve points a game in the first half the last
Speaker 1: six games. They're just you know, the offense has got
Speaker 1: to get off to faster start. Hey, Mickey's right though,
Speaker 1: that second half when they got the ball and scored that,
Speaker 1: right there was the way that they were playing defensively,
Speaker 1: in the way they were moving the ball offensively. The
Speaker 1: last two drives the before half and then the touchdown drive.
Speaker 1: That's really all they needed eight play seventy five yards. Yeah, Town,
Speaker 1: when they scored. I mean I looked at Nate and
Speaker 1: I said, you've got to get a stop here, You've
Speaker 1: got to get a stop, get the ball back, and
Speaker 1: down the field we go. And then you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: seventeen nothing seemed like one hundred to nothing to me
Speaker 1: the way that game was going. Yeah, no doubt. And
Speaker 1: once again you see a case where a team get
Speaker 1: gets a field goal or scores at the end of
Speaker 1: the first half, gets the ball to start the second
Speaker 1: half point swing right there, and it's all of a
Speaker 1: sudden they can dictate and hold the ball for twenty
Speaker 1: one minutes in the in the second half of the game.
Speaker 1: All right. Barry Church was let go by Jacksonville on Friday.
Speaker 1: He clears waivers today at three o'clock o'clock today, right,
Speaker 1: which he likely will right with the contract contract right,
Speaker 1: all right, so when he entersts from the Cowboys. Stephen
Speaker 1: Jones said on the pregame show that they were gonna
Speaker 1: look at the film today of him and check it
Speaker 1: out see how he was playing this year. M if
Speaker 1: that's take yeah, and take do your due diligence. You
Speaker 1: know the player. Um, you know, you've got two starting
Speaker 1: safeties that I think overall that you know, they feel
Speaker 1: good about and Cavon Frasier is kind of your special
Speaker 1: teams guy and back up safety. So do you how
Speaker 1: you feel about Thompson? That's that's that's the one. I mean.
Speaker 1: Is Thompson good enough to where you kind of sitting
Speaker 1: in a situation where you say, you know, well, you
Speaker 1: know it was Thompson a kind of a young enough
Speaker 1: guy that you might want to keep around for next year,
Speaker 1: Like Barry Church might be a guy that you just
Speaker 1: you know, you're kind of taking him for the run,
Speaker 1: you know, unless you can sign Barry Church back, you know,
Speaker 1: for a veteran minimum kind of a thing. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I and I would think that's what it would be
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, No, it absolutely would be. I'm just
Speaker 1: talking about your next year. Yeah, next year, do you
Speaker 1: bring Barry Church in and let him compete. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: interested to see what they get from their him. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I've got the oportunity. I've got just one
Speaker 1: more thing I have to look at for Cowboys this morning.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a peek at Barry Church myself. But
Speaker 1: he had talked to some guys at Jacksonville that was
Speaker 1: telling me though that we're a bad team. Barry had
Speaker 1: some bad games, got blamed for a couple of things,
Speaker 1: and you know it, when you're a bad team, they're
Speaker 1: looking for reasons to kind of move on from guys.
Speaker 1: Not that Barry's a bad guy, but you know, they
Speaker 1: weren't gonna they were gonna This guy told me, he said, hey,
Speaker 1: the amount of money that he makes, he most likely
Speaker 1: was not going to be back next year. And so
Speaker 1: that's kind of why they they moved on from him
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, even if they picked him up,
Speaker 1: what's he gonna be? You got a backup safety and
Speaker 1: a special teams player, and at his age, is he
Speaker 1: really want to play special teams? He might because he's
Speaker 1: out of a job. Yeah, but I mean that's his role.
Speaker 1: He's not stepping into the starting lineup, Yeah, Barry. Barry
Speaker 1: might be when those guys that you get him and
Speaker 1: he'll and next thing, you know, he's energizing your team
Speaker 1: with you know, with like he he brings that he does.
Speaker 1: He's the one guy that I always thought where when
Speaker 1: Shaun Lee went down, And that's why I was always
Speaker 1: kind of arguing with you, Mickey about Earl Thomas because
Speaker 1: I was always wanting somebody when Shaun Lee went down
Speaker 1: that would kind of hold the team together defensively, you know,
Speaker 1: make people accountable. You know, Bury Church will always seem
Speaker 1: to me to be a guy that would hold people accountable.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're looking for that type of guy. That's why
Speaker 1: they're doing their due diligence here. Maybe they're looking for
Speaker 1: another guy that can they could come in, play some
Speaker 1: some downs, play on special teams, be a part of
Speaker 1: a team that's trying to playoff pill I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean obviously this is something if the Cowboys weren't
Speaker 1: in a playoff push and they wouldn't be yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: But this is the type guy that you pick up
Speaker 1: late in a season that might be able to contribute
Speaker 1: in some way right in the postseason. Philadelphia did a
Speaker 1: great job of that last year. They picked up veteran
Speaker 1: guys as the season went along, and sure enough, there
Speaker 1: were points that happened and once they got into the
Speaker 1: postseason where guy actually contributes in the game. And maybe
Speaker 1: there wasn't a starting spot for him, but he's a
Speaker 1: veteran guy that you can count on in certain situations.
Speaker 1: I think it's a great idea, assuming that he's not hurt. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know, and how and how he's playing. How he's
Speaker 1: playing will be key there. But yeah, Barry Church went
Speaker 1: to the AFC Championship game last year. Yeah, so if
Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy that that has that experience
Speaker 1: that could people could kind of lean on, you know,
Speaker 1: when they get in here and it gets a little
Speaker 1: tough and okay, hey we got to stop Russell Wilson today.
Speaker 1: You know, we gotta we gotta pull this thing together,
Speaker 1: you know, and so hopefully, you know, I'd like to
Speaker 1: see him get an opportunity. I'm kind of interested though,
Speaker 1: two on on when they they're starting to get they
Speaker 1: get Tavon Austin back and some of these guys, how
Speaker 1: they're going to play their inactives? You know. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: where I'm he how does he address if? Because here, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's watch, yeah, let's watch what Cole Beasley. God, we
Speaker 1: all love Cole Beasley, but the punt return stuff has
Speaker 1: been nothing. I mean, not that they made a pun
Speaker 1: a ton yesterday that one time. Maybe one. Well let
Speaker 1: me ask you this, why if what if look at
Speaker 1: your depth at safety? What if you lost one of
Speaker 1: your starting safeties to an injury going in the playoffs?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, no question. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: why that's why you're familiarity with Barry. That's why you
Speaker 1: signed Barry. Sure absolutely, assuming again he checks out as
Speaker 1: far as the way he's playing. Yeah, but he had to.
Speaker 1: You've gone all season with You've gone all season without
Speaker 1: really any injury issues back there, but in knock on Wood. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: and that's why you got You need that insurance back
Speaker 1: here because yeah, Cabon Frasier can fill in, sure, but
Speaker 1: you these are right saying. I think I think from
Speaker 1: his standpoint, if you were just bringing in an outsider
Speaker 1: at that point, I think your guys would say, what
Speaker 1: are you doing right here? This far? With the guys
Speaker 1: we got, this organization knows the makeup of the player.
Speaker 1: Players know Barry Church. Now, not a lot of them,
Speaker 1: because if you look at it, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: guys in their second year that are playing that don't
Speaker 1: know who buried Church is right, and but I think
Speaker 1: there's enough that do that would say, okay, Churches back.
Speaker 1: You know, we got we got our guys back. Why
Speaker 1: do I if he can play? Yeah, why do I
Speaker 1: think that if Barry Church got in a game that
Speaker 1: he could make a big play for you any journey
Speaker 1: because he's he's because in this system and this is
Speaker 1: not going to be a transition for him. And if
Speaker 1: they were to bring him back, it's not at all.
Speaker 1: Why not play him down around the box and stuff
Speaker 1: to let him be physical. That's where he kind of
Speaker 1: was made a living, you know, be let him be
Speaker 1: that guy. But but but Mickey's right, need to see
Speaker 1: what that film. Yeah, I think there was a game
Speaker 1: that he had. It might have been Steel or something.
Speaker 1: Somebody who was told me there was a game that
Speaker 1: he was just awful. But you know, well, hey, that's
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. I mean, if you think about it,
Speaker 1: really the only guys on defense that know him are
Speaker 1: Lee Crawford, Lawrence Heath, Yeah, marion Elli. But I'm ment
Speaker 1: of the players because because in the sept those guys
Speaker 1: are their babies. They drafted guys to replace him in
Speaker 1: car but you know they would I don't think they
Speaker 1: wanted to lose. It was a money thing, yeah, the
Speaker 1: same thing. But good for him he got paid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good fefully it was a lot of guaranteed money. Join
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Speaker 1: I tell you how much I love blue lights at Christmas.
Speaker 1: You know what happened? He saw a tweet the other
Speaker 1: day when you got your lights up? Did you see that? Congratulations? Grats? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't mute you yet, but congratulations on that. Did
Speaker 1: you actually see the Yes, yeah, I heard I heard that.
Speaker 1: It was whit was the special guest Friday night. Oh
Speaker 1: that's right, Jason wat went right, Yeah, it'll get Mickey
Speaker 1: out there lighting him this week. So when are you
Speaker 1: going to get Jason Witton on our Legend show? That
Speaker 1: was your job? Oh yeah, that's right. I forgot about that.
Speaker 1: You're the one that bumps into him at the grocery.
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I don't see him at Central Market.
Speaker 1: Have you lined up the Legends guest this week? I have?
Speaker 1: I thought you had. You want to go ahead and
Speaker 1: reveal that, Yes, it's Mike Singletary. Huh, bear down bears
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, loved his career with the Cowboys. Yes,
Speaker 1: he got the notification on his phone that it was
Speaker 1: booked and he was, Ah, Micky's very excited. So had
Speaker 1: mean Joe Green And now we'll have Mike Singletary on
Speaker 1: Wednesday night the Cowboys like we're the Buccaneers that we
Speaker 1: don't have any more legends team Legends, That's what I said.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be a former call. Why not? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a Texas Legends. It's a Texas legend right there,
Speaker 1: A very good Texas legend. Because if it wasn't him,
Speaker 1: I was going to go after Tim Brown. So Tim Brown,
Speaker 1: you're next trophy winner? Right? Oh yeah, I was going
Speaker 1: to suggest with Drow Wilson and now the general manager
Speaker 1: one of those new football teams, the indoor team. Is
Speaker 1: he really? I didn't know that? Yeah, ye, speaking of
Speaker 1: the one of those new football teams. The Redskins get
Speaker 1: a victory from Josh Johnson yesterday, ten days ago. He
Speaker 1: was preparing to play in the new Spring League, the
Speaker 1: Alliance of American Football for the Memphis Blaze or whatever
Speaker 1: they call it. Dennis Thurman and Singletary and single. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: Babel to ask him about Singletary lost his quarterback to
Speaker 1: the Redskins. First win since twenty eleven for Josh Johnson.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean he lost him. They don't start till
Speaker 1: January February. We had our games to keep him around. Now,
Speaker 1: we had our game cast on checking that score. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they kicked the winning field goal in Washington as time expired.
Speaker 1: Here the Cowboys game in Indianapolis. That's how you know
Speaker 1: it's just not your day. Nothing's going right. Fight Well,
Speaker 1: obviously Cowboys had the Redskins lost two. So you happen
Speaker 1: to see the line score of that game that both teams.
Speaker 1: Both quarterbacks were the leading rusher for their teams, and
Speaker 1: Keler and Johnson were both Keler the leader. At one
Speaker 1: point he had six carries for like sixty two yards.
Speaker 1: That's what you call a rock fight. And then they
Speaker 1: had it and then their stats were I think at
Speaker 1: half one of them had forty nine yards passing, the
Speaker 1: other had seventy. You know it's not your day, I
Speaker 1: trust me. I've lived in those days for like three years.
Speaker 1: The Eagles go to LA and win. And by the way,
Speaker 1: as we set the table for the rest of this
Speaker 1: week and get over the twenty four hour rule is
Speaker 1: in effect, we get over what happened in Indianapolis. How
Speaker 1: wide open are the NFC playoffs When you see that
Speaker 1: the Eagles go to LA and beat the Rams, it
Speaker 1: could be the sixth seed, right and beat well they
Speaker 1: called out of them. Maybe they could be the if
Speaker 1: you don't find a way to win win these next
Speaker 1: two games. But I don't want to think about that.
Speaker 1: It's wide open and in the playoffs in the NFC,
Speaker 1: it is it is. I mean, so Minnesota's kind of
Speaker 1: struggling right now. Philadelphia great win by them. That's kind
Speaker 1: of like a Cowboys against the Saints. Win right, and
Speaker 1: we'll see what the Saints do tonight against Carolina. Carolina
Speaker 1: usually plays them pretty well too. Have you watched that
Speaker 1: game last night? I watched bits and pieces. Just did
Speaker 1: you see the one where the guy basically jumped off
Speaker 1: sides and then they picked up the flag and the
Speaker 1: official says the defensive player wasn't in the neutral Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did see that, and then they shows his foot
Speaker 1: almost hit the ball. But you're but you're right about it. Why.
Speaker 1: That's why, like Zeke said, you take your medicine. You
Speaker 1: got blown out and everything's still in front of you.
Speaker 1: Just put it behind you. Maybe it's maybe it's a lesson.
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