Speaker 1: I Am all In again, Luke's Diner with Scott Patterson
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Speaker 2: Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all in Podcast, one
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Speaker 2: with the one and Only. Yes, we have our Lisa Lobe. Lisa,
Speaker 2: how are you welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2: It is a pleasure. We're excited to get into it
Speaker 2: with you. Let me tell everybody a little bit about
Speaker 2: you if they don't already know. You're a Dallas native,
Speaker 2: you are a Grammy Award winning singer songwriter, and your
Speaker 2: first number one hit with your platinum singer goal Stay
Speaker 2: I missed You from Reality Bites making history. Is the
Speaker 2: first pop artist to top the charts without a recording contract.
Speaker 2: I did not know that. What an accomplishment. Back in
Speaker 2: two thousand and four, Lisa co hosted Food Network show
Speaker 2: called duezl and Lisa with fellow rock musician diezl Zappa.
Speaker 2: She recently teamed up with Any nominated Voice actress Debbie
Speaker 2: dry Berry on the single The compost Been as an
Speaker 2: eco friendly anthem promoting composting. She's a lover of music, obviously,
Speaker 2: food and our beautiful planet Earth.
Speaker 3: Welcome, Lisa, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Let's get into this with your Food Network show. That
Speaker 2: was your idea, right, the show was our idea.
Speaker 3: It was really strange. At the time I was dating
Speaker 3: deuesel Zappa, it was a million years ago, and he
Speaker 3: and I were both obsessed with the Food Network. I
Speaker 3: think it was like sort of early not early days,
Speaker 3: like middle early days of Food Network. Literally just watching
Speaker 3: Food Network all the time. It was probably the TVO years,
Speaker 3: you know, it was before it was after VHS, but
Speaker 3: before the crazy streaming binge watching we're doing today. But
Speaker 3: there were so many shows we both loved cooking, interested
Speaker 3: in cooking, and I put out a record called Cake
Speaker 3: and Pie with the word and underlined, and which was
Speaker 3: really philosophical. It was like, if somebody offers you cake
Speaker 3: and pie, I mean it's also real. If somebody offers
Speaker 3: me cake and pie, I always just usually want both.
Speaker 3: I want all of it, and that's like life. I
Speaker 3: want all of it. If I can, you know, you
Speaker 3: might as well say sure, I'll have cake and pie.
Speaker 3: So it was philosophical, but it also really connected us
Speaker 3: with a chef that we were friendly with named Mark Tarbell,
Speaker 3: who's a well known chef in the Arizona area. He's
Speaker 3: also been on Food Network a lot and has won
Speaker 3: many Emmys for his shows in Phoenix. But we talked
Speaker 3: to Mark and we were like, oh, we should do
Speaker 3: a promotion where we may we play music and then
Speaker 3: we also make make cake or pie on stage and
Speaker 3: everybody gets to try it. And Mark was going to
Speaker 3: be our pie of an roadie and uh. We presented
Speaker 3: it to Innerscope Records, which was the record company at
Speaker 3: the time, and they didn't want to support it. They
Speaker 3: didn't they didn't want to pay for that, uh, interesting
Speaker 3: marketing thing. We went ahead and did it a couple
Speaker 3: of times and it was actually very successful and it
Speaker 3: was really really fun, and so we decided, you know what,
Speaker 3: let's see maybe the Food Network could fit us in somewhere.
Speaker 3: We could be a guest on a show, because there's
Speaker 3: the whole food theme and the baking theme and it's
Speaker 3: one of our big interests. And so we had a
Speaker 3: meeting with the Food Network with a producer we knew
Speaker 3: from Broadway Video, and instead of fitting us into another show,
Speaker 3: they said, why don't you guys have your own show?
Speaker 3: So we got our own show, and it was at
Speaker 3: the beginning of like Info infotainment, you know, we were
Speaker 3: going to be to us. It was a way for
Speaker 3: us to get into the kitchens with all of these
Speaker 3: profession amazing sometimes world famous chefs go to different cities.
Speaker 3: Food Network wanted it to be reality based as well.
Speaker 3: So you see us on tour, playing concerts, doing golf tournaments,
Speaker 3: you know, and we learned how to bake my mom's
Speaker 3: special cookies or his mom's special dish. We met with
Speaker 3: famous chefs and sometimes other celebrities like Bill Murray would
Speaker 3: come with us down in the basement of this amazing
Speaker 3: restaurant called Sugar that used to exist in Chicago, and
Speaker 3: we'd work, we'd cook together, and it was just this great.
Speaker 3: It was a lot of eating, but it was It
Speaker 3: was a great experience and a good experience learning about
Speaker 3: TV and production and how that works as well.
Speaker 2: Wow, So this is the traveling series change the way
Speaker 2: you cook or eat it home?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean everything, because we learned so much from everybody,
Speaker 3: from fred Eric, who's a great chef out here in
Speaker 3: la There's just such a camaraderie between musicians, like the
Speaker 3: creativity of making something and chefs, and like chefs like
Speaker 3: my friend Mark Charbell. You go to his restaurant, you
Speaker 3: always want to get the chocolate dessert, you always want
Speaker 3: to get the meatballs. It's kind of like when I
Speaker 3: play concerts. There's certain songs I always have to play,
Speaker 3: and they always have to be fresh, and they have
Speaker 3: to be feel like now and engaged, and then you've
Speaker 3: got some specials that you have, and so it just
Speaker 3: it Definitely I still have like a lot of the
Speaker 3: tools that I bought during the making of the show,
Speaker 3: lots and lots of special things I use in the kitchen.
Speaker 3: And it just made me realize that there's nothing too
Speaker 3: simple or too complicated in the kitchen and standing next
Speaker 3: to someone. Although YouTube videos are helpful, but standing next
Speaker 3: to somebody in the kitchen can really teach you a lot.
Speaker 2: Right, do you cook with your children?
Speaker 3: I do a little bit. I cook a lot for them.
Speaker 3: I do cook with them, especially my son likes to
Speaker 3: get in the kitchen these days, and sometimes he'll cook
Speaker 3: for us. Really yeah, well, I don't eat steak, but
Speaker 3: he loves making steak, hands on steak. He had a
Speaker 3: friend over and for fun they made nyoki and steak
Speaker 3: from scratch. I mean, they didn't make the steak from scratch, but.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, you personally and as a family,
Speaker 2: what kind of cakes and pies do you dream about eating?
Speaker 3: Ugh, I made the best cake for my birthday. One
Speaker 3: of my traditions is I like to make my own
Speaker 3: birthday cake or order it an ice cream cake from
Speaker 3: Baskin Robins, a chocolate chip ice cream cake, because that's
Speaker 3: what I had when I was like five or four.
Speaker 3: I still have the little ballerinas that went on top
Speaker 3: of that cake. I love that cake. Oh, they're so good,
Speaker 3: so good. The frosting what is it even made out of?
Speaker 3: Like the ice cream? The cones that are clowns? Yeah,
Speaker 3: the red frosting. It tastes so good. I don't know
Speaker 3: what that is.
Speaker 2: We just polished one off. We're going to get an
Speaker 2: I told my wife, I said, reload, reload on this.
Speaker 2: This is fit. It's like desserts for a week.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And it's dangerous too, because you can literally I
Speaker 3: realized after rushing around them for other kids' birthdays and
Speaker 3: things like that, and trying to order in advance and
Speaker 3: getting the perfect cake. You can literally walk in and
Speaker 3: they have a whole freezer full of beautiful cakes. We
Speaker 3: even got a strawberry one recently a strawberry ice cream cake.
Speaker 3: But anyway, for my birthday, I like making cakes also,
Speaker 3: and I had just been to oh coincidentally outside of Chicago.
Speaker 3: I was right near Northwestern and my friend Aaron and
Speaker 3: Scott and I ordered in from this Italian restaurant pizza.
Speaker 3: But we got a dessert that was like a polenta cake,
Speaker 3: like a polenta pound cake, and so I sort of
Speaker 3: replicated that cake. I found a recipe like it, and
Speaker 3: I messed around with a little bit. But it was
Speaker 3: like a polenta pound cake with whipped cream that's mixed
Speaker 3: with mascropones. So it's like this kind of heavier, not
Speaker 3: super sweet whipped cream with like a tiny bit of
Speaker 3: powdered sugar inside of it, and then also stewed peaches,
Speaker 3: so you get this like, oh, it was so good.
Speaker 3: It's so dense and buttery and heavy because of the polina,
Speaker 3: and it's got a sweetness from the polenta, but it's
Speaker 3: not super super sweet. Oh that was so good.
Speaker 2: Okay, I want to go back. And this isn't necessarily
Speaker 2: a food question. It's a question you've heard a million
Speaker 2: times before, but I don't know the answer to this,
Speaker 2: and it's food for my soul because I'm a songwriter
Speaker 2: as well. And take us back to before you wrote Stay,
Speaker 2: how did that come about? And tell us about recording
Speaker 2: it and then releasing it and the sensation of having
Speaker 2: this hit.
Speaker 4: What was that like?
Speaker 2: How old were you and what was that like?
Speaker 3: I think I was about twenty two or twenty three.
Speaker 3: I was like a couple of years out of college,
Speaker 3: a year and a half out of college. I had
Speaker 3: been writing music since I was a little kid, and
Speaker 3: writing music with lyrics since I was in about eighth GID.
Speaker 3: It's funny. I was just going through some old stuff.
Speaker 3: I found the lyrics my friends. I got my two
Speaker 3: best friends and I to write this song for our
Speaker 3: graduating class that we all sung together on stage when
Speaker 3: we graduated from high school. But it's always been something
Speaker 3: I do, is write music. And I was in a
Speaker 3: band all through college and we made a lot of
Speaker 3: music in a couple records. But I'd always liked writing songs.
Speaker 3: I was a fan of David Bowie and The Cure
Speaker 3: and the Police, a lot of classic rock. I was
Speaker 3: not a big singer songwritery person per se, even though
Speaker 3: that's what I do, I used, you know, I got
Speaker 3: an electric guitar I think is my first guitar, and
Speaker 3: then I got a Yamaha acoustic, or maybe one right
Speaker 3: after the other. But I was really into like The Who,
Speaker 3: and I don't know, I didn't see myself as like
Speaker 3: a girl with an acoustic guitar. But then little by
Speaker 3: little after lugging around a huge vox I mean a
Speaker 3: jazz chorus amp, because that's what Andy Summers used, that
Speaker 3: huge j ass chorus amp. And my really heavy strat case,
Speaker 3: you know, not the soft case, but the hard case.
Speaker 3: They're very, very heavy. I'm at the teat five to
Speaker 3: two person and just slinging an acoustic guitar and a
Speaker 3: soft shell bag on your back or one of those
Speaker 3: really cheap kind of almost cardboardy cases. That became more
Speaker 3: of my thing. It was quieter when I would shyly
Speaker 3: write songs in my room, even though I still love
Speaker 3: electric guitars and playing them. But I sort of became
Speaker 3: a singer songwriter with an acoustic guitar. Although when you
Speaker 3: listen back the Cure and led Zeppelin and The Who
Speaker 3: and everybody else have a lot of big acoustic guitar.
Speaker 2: Rock songs that hole Who's Next Is it pretty much
Speaker 2: an acoustic album.
Speaker 3: That's beautiful, a lot of and rock with acoustic. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I love music so much. But anyway, so I sort
Speaker 3: of avoided writing personal songs. My point is I avoided
Speaker 3: writing songs that felt super super personal. I thought I
Speaker 3: was being oblique, somebody else said to me the other day.
Speaker 3: I thought I was. When I look back at some
Speaker 3: of my early songs, they're pretty obvious. But I didn't
Speaker 3: know that. I thought I was being kind of poetic
Speaker 3: and abstract. But for the first time, I kind of
Speaker 3: let myself write a song about something that was going
Speaker 3: on in my life that was kind of straightforward about
Speaker 3: a relationship, about the relationship I had. It was actually
Speaker 3: with my producer boyfriend. He was my producer and my
Speaker 3: boyfriend for many years now. I still am good friends
Speaker 3: with him, and he does most of the photography you
Speaker 3: see if me, the professional photography you see he does.
Speaker 3: But anyway, that's on a side. I wrote something that
Speaker 3: just like we were having an argument and I'm like ah,
Speaker 3: and it was like writing about that, and that's where
Speaker 3: it started. Lyrically, at the same time, I had just
Speaker 3: signed with BMI a couple of years earlier, the organization
Speaker 3: that helps to collect your royalties and when your songs
Speaker 3: were played on the radio. And they're a great resource
Speaker 3: for up and coming musicians as well, because it's just
Speaker 3: it's a place that's not a record company or a
Speaker 3: publishing company. That's great community of professional music people. But anyway,
Speaker 3: so I heard through one of the people I worked
Speaker 3: with there that Daryl Hall was looking for solo songs
Speaker 3: for a Daryl Hall record, and I'm a huge fan
Speaker 3: of Hall of Notes as well, and I was trying
Speaker 3: to write a song that was like one of those
Speaker 3: R and B kind of Sarah smiles, Sarah smile kind
Speaker 3: of songs. So that's where the music groove came from.
Speaker 3: I very soon thereafter found out that opportunity was not
Speaker 3: happening at all. So I started putting my lyrics to
Speaker 3: those chords, and the song lyrics go off in some
Speaker 3: different directions, but that's where it started. I finished writing
Speaker 3: it when I was at Berkeley Summer School in Boston.
Speaker 3: I went to summer school there weirdly as a grown up,
Speaker 3: you know, I thought I was so grown up. I
Speaker 3: was in my early twenties, but mostly it's teenage kids
Speaker 3: and honestly mostly teenage boys at the time. And I
Speaker 3: finished the song there and I and then there were
Speaker 3: some record companies interested in New York City that were
Speaker 3: getting interested in signing me. I was doing all the
Speaker 3: different music festivals and south By Southwest and things like that,
Speaker 3: and so one of the record companies had given me
Speaker 3: a demo deal, where they give you some money to
Speaker 3: make a recording. So I was recording a few songs
Speaker 3: with a producer named Kevin Salem, and we did a
Speaker 3: version of Stay that was kind of more rock because
Speaker 3: I just wanted to. I'm like, why is all my
Speaker 3: music so acoustic? You know, can't I make it more rock?
Speaker 3: And I had a band and everything. But then Juan Fatino,
Speaker 3: who is the producer I was talking about, we had
Speaker 3: made it. We had made a recording of a bunch
Speaker 3: of songs already. He's like, let me take a let
Speaker 3: me take a stab at this with you. So we
Speaker 3: took the band to his apartment in New York City
Speaker 3: on fifty second Street, his one his two bedroom apartment
Speaker 3: where he had set up a little studio which was
Speaker 3: sort of unusual at the time, and we recorded, you know,
Speaker 3: with the drums in one room and the bass in
Speaker 3: the other room and this New York City apartment and
Speaker 3: recorded to a DATS, which are basically like VHS tapes
Speaker 3: or Beta tapes actually, and then I recorded my vocal
Speaker 3: in the closet with those kind of barn do that
Speaker 3: kind of wiggle on their hinges that hang down from
Speaker 3: the ceiling. And we did get a really nice mic,
Speaker 3: a C twelve that we rented. But we had been
Speaker 3: doing a lot of recordings and so this was We
Speaker 3: did a handful of songs, including Stay, and so that's
Speaker 3: how the song was recorded and mostly recorded and written.
Speaker 3: And then the opportunity came up for Reality bites Ethan Hawk,
Speaker 3: who was a friend of mine. I had met him
Speaker 3: through another friend from college, some actor friends. I was
Speaker 3: doing a lot of acting in theater in college as well,
Speaker 3: and one of our common friends introduced me to Ethan Hawk,
Speaker 3: and he was one of my neighbors, and we just
Speaker 3: there was just a huge group of us that hung
Speaker 3: out all the time. We were involved in Ethan's theater company.
Speaker 3: I wrote music for his plays. We all went to
Speaker 3: go see each other play music and do theater and
Speaker 3: film openings and whatever, you know, playwrights and so there
Speaker 3: were a lot of different things that happened. But along
Speaker 3: the way, Ethan asked me for a copy of my
Speaker 3: song's Stay to pass along to Stacy Cher and Ben
Speaker 3: Stiller and Karen Rackman and the people involved in the
Speaker 3: movie Reality Bites, and they decided to put my song
Speaker 3: into the movie in the final credits. And then RCA
Speaker 3: Records was making a film what's it called again? Soundtrack?
Speaker 3: A soundtrack and Ron Fair, who was very successful in soundtracks,
Speaker 3: he asked, if you know, we could put the song
Speaker 3: Stay on there. So that's why I'm an independent artist
Speaker 3: at the time, because we licensed the song to them,
Speaker 3: we did not sign with them, so I was a
Speaker 3: person without a label in a good way.
Speaker 2: And then.
Speaker 3: The movie came out and this a radio station down
Speaker 3: in Houston called KRBE wanted to put the song out
Speaker 3: as a single, and so we did that and it
Speaker 3: started going up the charts. And then RCA really jumped
Speaker 3: on the bandwagon and are really great radio reps headed
Speaker 3: off by our friend Skip Bishop, who good friends with
Speaker 3: the head of the radio department. They pushed it and
Speaker 3: they did the thing, and the song kept moving up
Speaker 3: the charts, and it went to number one. Wow without
Speaker 3: a label.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: And actually right now it's the anniversary of it going
Speaker 3: to number one three weeks in August thirty one years ago.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's fantastic.
Speaker 3: It's incredible. That's incredible. It was so exciting. And luckily,
Speaker 3: I have so many friends and family, really good friends
Speaker 3: that I've had since I was once, since I was born.
Speaker 3: Literally our moms were pregnant together. But I have a
Speaker 3: really solid set of friends from all eras of my
Speaker 3: life that I keep up with, and so to be
Speaker 3: able to have that, and also Juan, who I was
Speaker 3: working with, is a very nostalgic person who also loves
Speaker 3: the history of music and the excitement of having a
Speaker 3: number one song, So we got to it was good
Speaker 3: to have all those friends and family around to really
Speaker 3: remember that it was actually happening. Because I'm a person
Speaker 3: who's like, Okay, now what's next. Okay, now we're going
Speaker 3: on tour. Okay, now I'm going to get the record label.
Speaker 3: It's hard to sit and be in the moment. Those
Speaker 3: people really helped out with them.
Speaker 2: That's fantastic. You know, I too, am a huge fan
Speaker 2: of Bowie.
Speaker 3: Which is your favorite? What are your favorite records?
Speaker 2: You know, Ziggy start Us for me, I mean they're
Speaker 2: all great, but the early stuff, yeah.
Speaker 3: Hunky Dory and Ziggy Stardust.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just fantastic stuff. But the songwriting for such a
Speaker 2: young guy, you know, and these beautiful songs that he
Speaker 2: wrote were just remarkable. And this I even listened. I
Speaker 2: even listened to the stuff when he was sixteen seventeen
Speaker 2: that he was releasing, all these.
Speaker 3: Very childlike Jones things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're very yeah, wow.
Speaker 3: Like when I'm five, right, right, I'm five. It's so cool.
Speaker 3: But I love the it just takes me to a
Speaker 3: place that's so mysterious and it's other world. It's otherworldly,
Speaker 3: and I don't always know what he's talking about. I
Speaker 3: got to meet him once and I read you really
Speaker 3: yes in the studio and I really really wanted to
Speaker 3: ask him about the Beuley Brothers, and I didn't because
Speaker 3: you know, our time was short and it was just
Speaker 3: small talk. Hi, how are you doing this to meet you?
Speaker 3: It was before cell phones really, so there's no little
Speaker 3: photo or anything. But I can't believe I got to
Speaker 3: meet him. I wish, yeah, you know, he's so talented.
Speaker 2: I know, I can't remember an artist or someone in
Speaker 2: the entertainment isn't passing away and having it affect me
Speaker 2: so deeply. I mean, it gutted me for three days,
Speaker 2: and I didn't know why. So I called back home
Speaker 2: my buddies in my old band in high school and
Speaker 2: growing Where are you from? Southern New Jersey, PHILADELPHIAA okay?
Speaker 2: And and they agreed they were gutted the same way
Speaker 2: I was. There was just something about Bowie that was
Speaker 2: different from everybody else.
Speaker 3: I think. Also, we didn't really know he was really sick, right,
Speaker 3: I didn't really know. I didn't get the time to
Speaker 3: mourn the lung goodbye. And yeah, and he was so young,
Speaker 3: you know. Also, I mean, like Stevie Rayvaughan, that was terrible.
Speaker 3: I remember crying in the kitchen when that happened. That
Speaker 3: was just horrible.
Speaker 2: There's there's a great video of him on Jules Holland
Speaker 2: from and.
Speaker 3: He played with David Bowie.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I got to see him play with David.
Speaker 2: Bowie, Stevie Rayvaughan and David Bowie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, from the Let's Dance Tour, the Left Dance Record.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I got to say that duet with Freddie
Speaker 2: Mercury is probably the best duet in the history.
Speaker 3: I don't love it. I'm I don't love it, and
Speaker 3: I love Queen. Oh my god. I was at I
Speaker 3: was at Live AID in nineteen eighty four in London.
Speaker 3: I saw it. I saw saw it. I was in
Speaker 3: the audience. Oh, I saw all of that. I was there.
Speaker 3: I was there, and I was studying theater. And then
Speaker 3: I dragged a couple of friends. I'm like, We've got
Speaker 3: to go see this thing.
Speaker 2: You witnessed that duet.
Speaker 3: I was there. I was like halfway back in the.
Speaker 2: In the just blow your hair back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't believe it. Yeah, but I mean I
Speaker 3: still I don't. It's not my favorite song. I mean
Speaker 3: I've gotten to love it, but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: That song kills me.
Speaker 3: Freddie Mercury. I never got to see them live other
Speaker 3: than Live Aid.
Speaker 2: I saw Queen at the Tower Theater. I think at
Speaker 2: the Tower Theater in Philadelphia when I was a kid, Wow,
Speaker 2: Tower Theater. Everybody the Tower Theater was a small, like
Speaker 2: you know, thousand thousand theater fifteen hundred, yeah, maybe more,
Speaker 2: but everybody played the Tower Theater. They came through Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: If they didn't play the Spectrum, they played the Tower Theater.
Speaker 3: It's so much better seeing someone in a theater than
Speaker 3: in an arena. It's just so much better. There's an excitement.
Speaker 3: And if you have really good tickets, like you're up
Speaker 3: in the first five rows, basically it's okay. But you
Speaker 3: get so far back in those places and it's just
Speaker 3: the people are these tiny little dolls. You can't it's
Speaker 3: like you're not there. It's it's, it's it's and the
Speaker 3: sound it doesn't. You know, it's really hard to make
Speaker 3: those concerts in those arenas. They're not set out for music.
Speaker 3: Some people play well like a Foo Fighter's plays well
Speaker 3: in an arena, but still like to see them in
Speaker 3: a smaller space is really exciting.
Speaker 2: All right, back to cakes. Okay, let's shift gears. So
Speaker 2: you also love coffee. What's your perfect coffee order? And
Speaker 2: do you eat cake with the coffee?
Speaker 3: Sometimes? Yeah, although I will say sometimes after I've eaten
Speaker 3: the cake with the coffee, I'm like, that was too
Speaker 3: sweet because I put sugar in the coffee. You know,
Speaker 3: it's too sweet. It's too sweet. Like you want to
Speaker 3: get one of those, like really grainy scones, which I'm
Speaker 3: not a big scone fan. I like them at the
Speaker 3: British like Tea House plays down in the West Village.
Speaker 3: They make a really good scone, but sometimes they're too
Speaker 3: they like coat the roof of your mouth in this
Speaker 3: gross way. But there's a scone that they used to
Speaker 3: sell it Pete's Coffee that I think came from. I
Speaker 3: don't know where it came from because I got one recently.
Speaker 3: Where was I where they sold them? But they it
Speaker 3: has like dried cherries and flax seeds and it's like
Speaker 3: whole wheat, so it's like sweet but not too sweet.
Speaker 3: But anyway, my favorite coffee order is when I go
Speaker 3: to Starbucks. It's a flat white with two percent milk,
Speaker 3: a short like the tiny size or if the coffee
Speaker 3: is really really good at Misto. Basically I want to
Speaker 3: get six ounces of espresso or really strong coffee, and
Speaker 3: I want to have a half a cup of steamed
Speaker 3: but not frothy. That's why the flat white is good
Speaker 3: because it mixes in with the coffee. It's not like
Speaker 3: the cappuccino or it sits on top of the coffee.
Speaker 3: It really bums me out. Even though it's really cute looking.
Speaker 3: But I want them the hot milk to be mixed
Speaker 3: with the coffee and then I want a tea spoon
Speaker 3: of sugar. That's what I want. What do you want?
Speaker 3: What do you want?
Speaker 2: I like it. I like coffee with a bit of
Speaker 2: honey and tea with some honey. And you're right. I
Speaker 2: can't eat anything sweet with it because it's too much sweet.
Speaker 3: It's like it's just like it kind of hurts your throat.
Speaker 3: I do like maple every once in a while, I
Speaker 3: do my maple syrup. I don't love honey in my coffee.
Speaker 3: I don't like honey a lot. I just realized I
Speaker 3: was eating something the other day, like a cake, and
Speaker 3: it was sweetened with honey. Oh no, I know what.
Speaker 3: It was one of those. It was one of those
Speaker 3: snack bars that's like like a real I don't like
Speaker 3: protein bars. I don't eat any of that. But there's
Speaker 3: one that's made with just like peanut, butter, honey, chocolate chips.
Speaker 3: It's the and I was eating one of those, and
Speaker 3: I was like, this is so good. It almost tastes
Speaker 3: like tastes like cookie dough, except it has that honey
Speaker 3: flavor like I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm not a Fanny flavor. I'm a big honey guy love.
Speaker 3: I know it's good for you. I put it in
Speaker 3: warm water if I need to soothe my throat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially going to say the flavor, I have.
Speaker 3: It a like Russia Shana. They're sweet New Year, but
Speaker 3: I don't love the taste of honey.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about compost ben your eco friendly anthem, just
Speaker 2: does that mindset show up and how you shop and
Speaker 2: how you cook at home as well?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's funny. I made this song with
Speaker 3: Debbie dry Berry, who's a very well known voiceover artist,
Speaker 3: especially and she started getting back into music. She started
Speaker 3: in music, and she was making an album of all
Speaker 3: like eco friendly songs, and so I said, we got
Speaker 3: to do it, but we can't hit people over the
Speaker 3: head with it. It has to sound like a real song.
Speaker 3: I've made so many children's records myself, and it's a
Speaker 3: real thing for all of us to always make songs
Speaker 3: that you know, sometimes have a lesson like I love
Speaker 3: Free to be you and me, and had all these
Speaker 3: great lessons and values imbued and embedded in the songs.
Speaker 3: But it was I don't know, it was just like
Speaker 3: in a fun good way, not in that annoying like
Speaker 3: teacher eway, but anyway, So yeah, I am kind of obsessed.
Speaker 3: In fact, I want somebody to create an oprah I
Speaker 3: call it an oprah app where you can actually because
Speaker 3: I'll stand in front of grapes for like three minutes wondering,
Speaker 3: like the real the grapes that are not organic there
Speaker 3: actually taste better than the organic ones today? How far
Speaker 3: did you have to drive to the grocery store to
Speaker 3: get the organic thing? You know, making these decisions what's
Speaker 3: better for the earth, And I wish there was a
Speaker 3: way you could like plug all that into a computer.
Speaker 3: And they're like, you know it, just get the regular
Speaker 3: Colgate toothpaste at the drug store two blocks from your house.
Speaker 3: It's better for the earth than you know, making your
Speaker 3: own toothpaste that you had to drive thirty miles to
Speaker 3: get the salt from the salt lag or whatever. I
Speaker 3: don't know, I'm just making that up, but I really
Speaker 3: it really affects me all the time. I get kind
Speaker 3: of obsessed. But there's so much information out there and
Speaker 3: so many variables, I can get a little stuck. But yeah,
Speaker 3: we have our compost bin under our sink. It's like
Speaker 3: an easy one where you just like put all the
Speaker 3: things you're supposed to put in the compost bin and
Speaker 3: we could put them in the green garbage bin.
Speaker 2: There you go. Yeahs all right, here's here's another. You
Speaker 2: are a rock star, you simply are, and you have
Speaker 2: been for over thirty years. If you could sit down
Speaker 2: for dinner, okay with three rock musicians? Yeah, what kind
Speaker 2: of food would you serve? And who would you want
Speaker 2: at that dinner?
Speaker 3: I hate this question, no offense.
Speaker 2: That's why we ask it.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't, that's so hard. I mean, we
Speaker 3: just talked about David Bowie. That would be great. Oh gosh.
Speaker 3: Like I love the police, but I don't know if
Speaker 3: they need to be at the dinner. I love talking
Speaker 3: to Stuart Copeland and he's really interesting. But and Andy
Speaker 3: Summers too.
Speaker 2: About Joni Mitchell? Would you want her there?
Speaker 3: Uh no, wait a minute, Joan Bi Prince Prince really
Speaker 3: would be really interesting. I'm curious what he has to say.
Speaker 3: He may not talk a lot, though. That's the other
Speaker 3: thing that people I like, Prince Freddie Mercury, oh, Brian May.
Speaker 3: Some of these folks are very introverted. You know, like
Speaker 3: the cure. If you're talking to Robert Smith, he's so introverted.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Ricky Lee Jones is great. She wrote a great autobiography,
Speaker 3: Oh so good. A lot of voice, the Go Gos.
Speaker 3: I'm singing with the Go Gos in a couple of nights.
Speaker 3: Those guys are really fun to talk to.
Speaker 2: Where are you going to be with them?
Speaker 3: A fundraiser for an organization called muzak. You can find
Speaker 3: it online and they have guest singers singing with them
Speaker 3: as well as Robin Hitchcock with Lowell toll Hurst playing drums.
Speaker 3: It's going to be in Larchmont area, but I'm looking
Speaker 3: to see if I can find some of the music
Speaker 3: I listen to. This is the I don't I this
Speaker 3: is too hard of a question. I can't even you
Speaker 3: know what.
Speaker 2: We don't want to stress you out.
Speaker 3: It's stressing me out. And I'd probably at the meal
Speaker 3: there'd be some kind of like I'd have to ask
Speaker 3: to see what kind of protein people eat, you know,
Speaker 3: like m because I could do like a fish thing
Speaker 3: or a veggie thing.
Speaker 2: What about like McDonald's McDonald's with Ozzy Osbourne, you know Ozzy.
Speaker 3: So it was so sweet Junia is really interesting, how
Speaker 3: I like. I enjoyed speaking to a Steve Vai. He's
Speaker 3: a really interesting, interesting guy, really kind, really smart. But
Speaker 3: I'm mentioning people like that. I have spoken to it
Speaker 3: great linked like, uh.
Speaker 2: Have you met Neil Young?
Speaker 3: I have met him a couple of times. I met
Speaker 3: him a couple of times. He was he was nice.
Speaker 3: We didn't talk a lot, but he was very nice.
Speaker 2: What about Steven Stills?
Speaker 3: He's also nice. Yeah, I'm friendly with his son, Chris Stills.
Speaker 3: And I met Stephen Stills a number of times along
Speaker 3: the way as well.
Speaker 2: I was in Hawaii and he in Lahaina and he
Speaker 2: walked into the bar restaurant in the afternoon with a
Speaker 2: guitar and starts and played a set.
Speaker 3: That's so cool. What restaurant were you at?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: I can't remember.
Speaker 3: This is just like the Earl just there the other day.
Speaker 3: WHI It was really great.
Speaker 2: He was fantastic.
Speaker 3: Musicians are so interesting to hang out with and talk to.
Speaker 3: They've they've been everywhere. They often have a really great
Speaker 3: sense of humor. Not to like, not to like generalize,
Speaker 3: but there's so many great people to talk to and
Speaker 3: hang out with. I don't it's too hard of a question.
Speaker 2: We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna get by that question.
Speaker 2: Thank you appreciate it. I'm gonna wait any longer.
Speaker 3: I know. I can't. I can't.
Speaker 2: All right, you walk into Luke Steiner. Okay, if there
Speaker 2: was a Lukes diner and you're walking into it, Okay,
Speaker 2: what would you order? Where would you sit?
Speaker 3: Oh that I'm between a counter and a window?
Speaker 2: Okay, good?
Speaker 3: Yes, Like I love a booth, but these days my hips,
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's not always comfortable sitting in a booth,
Speaker 3: even though I love booths. I would say counter. I
Speaker 3: love counters. I would order. I mean, I'm trying to
Speaker 3: think what I would actually like to eat, Like things,
Speaker 3: certain things look great on camera, but I don't actually
Speaker 3: feel like eating them, like chocolate chip pancakes, but like
Speaker 3: I don't actually love eating a bunch of pancakes at
Speaker 3: one sitting, I really do.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 3: The first thing that's coming to mind is just like
Speaker 3: a cheese sandwich with like bread, iceberg, lettuce, mayonnaise, lettuce,
Speaker 3: like not shredded iceberg pieces of lettuce. Do I have
Speaker 3: an aversion just shredded lettuce on sandwiches, tomato, coca cola
Speaker 3: potato chips nice, that would be good. Maybe some carrots.
Speaker 3: I always have to have some vegetables on the side.
Speaker 2: Lisa, thank you for your time.
Speaker 3: We'll have to figure out the dinner.
Speaker 2: Yes, and you know we'd love to have you back
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