1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak here for this Thursday, the twenty 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: third of March in London. Coming up today, Hike and 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: see the fed ups for twenty five basis points and 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: bet on an end the banking crisis a game changer. 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: City groups CEO on mobile banking risks to the industry 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: as Yellen rejects a blanket deposit guarantee as easy as 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: ABC for the BOE Central Bank set a high graders 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: and flation data comes in red Heart a homegrown bank 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: run time Toline French and leadership is taxing. Those of 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: the stories we're looking at in today's papers. I'm Jus Allcock. 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: Plus the high price of power Bloomberg finds consumers are 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: footing the bill for traders energy market manipulation. That's all 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: straight ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. The business Views you 14 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: need to start your day in just one fifteen minute 15 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: podcast on Apple, Spotify, the Bloomberg Business App and everywhere 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Good morning, I'm Stephen Carroll and 17 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: I'm Caroline Hike. Here are the stories that we're following today. 18 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: The Federal Reserve is raised rates for the ninth straight 19 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: meeting and hinted there may be more hikes to come. 20 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: Policymakers voted unanimously for a second straight twenty five basis 21 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: point hike. The move pushed rates to their highest level 22 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: since September two thousand and seven and follows an unprecedented 23 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: year of aggressive tightening and federal reserve charge your own. 24 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: Powell says he's prepared to go further. We need to 25 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 1: raise rates higher, we will, I think for now. Though, 26 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: we as I've mentioned, we see the likelihood of credit tightening. 27 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: We know that that can have a you know, an 28 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: effect on the macroeconomy, on demand, on labor market, on inflation, 29 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: and we're going to be watching to see what that is. 30 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: During his press conference, Powell repeatedly said the impact on 31 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: lending from the banking sector problems isn't yet clear For 32 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: purposes of our monetary policy tool. We're looking at what's 33 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: happening among the banks and asking is there going to 34 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: be some tightening and credit conditions, And then we're thinking 35 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: about that as effectively doing the same thing that rate 36 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: hikes do so in a way that substitutes for rate hikes. 37 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: The Federals Our chair also shared his thoughts on the 38 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: speed at which events at SVB had unfolded, calling it 39 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: a very fast run that left them wondering, quote, how 40 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: did this happen? Now? Reacting to the rate decision, the 41 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: former New York Fed President Bill Dudley said that the 42 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: risk of a hard landing for the Federal Reserve has 43 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: gone up. In an exclusive interview, the now Bloomberg opinion 44 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: columnists broke down the message that Powell is trying to 45 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: send to the markets. Basically, the Fed is saying that 46 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: one uncertain he has gone up a lot. We're not 47 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: really sure how long the banking system stress is going 48 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: to last and how severe it's going to be. Number Two, 49 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: that that stress is going to restrain the economy, and 50 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: that substitute a little bit for rate hikes. So we're 51 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: not going to have to do as much as we 52 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: thought we were going to have to do earlier. Bill 53 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: Dudley also totally bug It's clear that the Fed believes 54 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: it's bid to a quell inflation won't deepen the banking crisis. 55 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: As Jerome Power was speaking to the Press's predecessor, the 56 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: now Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen, was on Capitol Hill taking 57 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: questions from lawmakers during her testimony she ruled out an 58 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: unlimited backstop for bank deposits. It's not something that we're considering. 59 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: All that I have said is that when the failure 60 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: of a bank is judged by supermajorities of the FDIC Board, 61 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: the FED Board, and myself in consultation with the President, 62 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: when such a failure is deemed to create systemic risk. 63 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: The comments seemed to be at odds with the Yellen's 64 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: previous remarks on the matter this week. On Monday, the 65 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: Treasury Secretary said the US is prepared to take further 66 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: actions to protect depositors if smaller lenders are threatened well. 67 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: Yellen and Poal have been at the center of efforts 68 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: to restore stability to US banking sector after the collapse 69 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: of some midsized lenders. Now City Group CEO Jane Fraser 70 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: says that the ability to move millions of dollars with 71 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: a few clicks is a ce change moment for how 72 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: lenders respond to the risk of bank runs. Here's what 73 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: she told Carlisle Group co founder David Rubinstein. It's a 74 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: complete game changer from what we've seen before. There were 75 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: a couple of tweets and then listening this thing went 76 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: down much faster than has appened in history, and greatly. 77 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: I think the regulators did a good job in responding 78 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: very quickly, because normally you have longer to respond to this, 79 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: so they acted with quite a lot of speed given 80 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: how quickly this happened. Speaking at an Economic Club of 81 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: Washington event, Fraser also stressed that she believes the string 82 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: of bank failures are an isolated event. City Group was 83 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: among eleven banks that provided thirty billion dollars in deposits 84 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: to First Republic last week in an effort to show 85 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: up the troubled lender. The Bank of England is today 86 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: likely to continue the quickest series of rate rises in 87 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: three decades. Economists and investors anticipate policymakers will raise the 88 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: benchmark lending rate a quarter point to four point two 89 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: five percent. Data on Wednesday show that inflation climbed for 90 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: the first time in four months, solidifying expectations for a hike. 91 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: Policymakers out the UK Center Bank Or published their decision 92 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: at twelve o'clock today, and just finally, the Prime Minister 93 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: Rishi soonac cemented his leadership by passing his Brexit deal 94 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: with a near five hundred vote majority. Sunac won convincingly 95 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: despite predecessors Liz Trust and Boris Johnson turning out to 96 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,559 Speaker 1: vote against him. It came on a day that Bois 97 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: Johnson had to defend his conduct to the inquiry into 98 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: whether he lied to Parliament. I apologize for inadvertently misleading 99 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: this House, but to say that an idea it recklessly 100 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: or deliberately is completely unproved. As the evidence shows. The 101 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: inquiry could see Johnson suspended as an MP and even 102 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: lose his seat if found guilty. Those are top stories 103 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: on the program this morning, Karen. I don't know if 104 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: you've had a chance to dig into today's Big Take 105 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: reports and absolutely fascinating inside into the energy market here 106 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: in the UK. The headline customers foot the bill for 107 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: a trade is manipulating the UK power markets. This is 108 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: some of what's been going on behind the scenes as 109 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: we've seen energy prices go up massively for consumers. It's 110 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: also casting the national gride more to get energy from 111 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: some of the providers. Yeah, look, this is digging detailed 112 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: reporting and all the charts and it is an amazing read. 113 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: So basically, this practice that Bloomberg talks about is really 114 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: quite widespread. So called balancing mechanism and the ability of 115 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: energy providers to sort of switch on and off generators 116 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: and then to charge the grid more in order to 117 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: then add at peak times extra energy. The regulator calls 118 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:07,119 Speaker 1: it a sharp practice. It involves the UK's biggest energy 119 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: companies sc Uniper, Vittals VPI. They've been using this tactic. 120 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: But the profits the money from this absolutely enormous and 121 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: so now it does look like there is the Energy 122 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: regulator off GEM announcing plans to tighten the rules. But 123 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: it's also the same issue in Europe apparently, and this 124 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: has been known for quite some time. So this is 125 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: another fantastic piece by Gavin Finch and his team. He's 126 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: well known for digging deep at Blimper, who definitely worth 127 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: a read this morning as well. Well. Let's turn to 128 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: the main central banking news of the day. The Federal 129 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: Reserve pressing ahead of another interest rate hiked Drone Palace 130 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: as there could be more in store. Central Bank are 131 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: also saying officials don't expect to be cutting rates this year. 132 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: Our two rates correspondent Garfield Reynolds joins us now for more. Garfield, 133 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: the Fed chose fighting inflation over other concerns. How soon 134 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: might we know if they've made the right decision. We 135 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: could know as soon as you know this this weekend 136 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: if there's further banking troubles, which obviously we hope won't 137 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: be the case. More likely, though, you know, we're going 138 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: to need to wait for the coming some of the 139 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: coming data. We've got the PMI surveys and similar coming 140 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: towards the end of this month. That's going to be key. 141 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: The next readings on consumer sentiment from a range of 142 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: different places, that's also going to be important. I mean, 143 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: those are the sort of soft ish data that tend 144 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: to give you a faster read on how rapidly a 145 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: particular event is hurting or helping the economy. So those 146 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: are things to be looking out for when it comes 147 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: to trying to judge how much damage has been done. 148 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: There are also surveys on your credit availability and how 149 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: banking marriages and they've they'd already been pulling in credit 150 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: before any of this, But we'll see what happens when 151 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: the next ones of those come in. The issue, though, 152 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: is that not a single Fed policymaker on the dot 153 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: plot is projecting lower interest rates by the end of 154 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: the year, and the markets are there's a real total 155 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: divergence between what bond markets think and what the Fed 156 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: is doing. Yeah, well, I mean bond markets. You have 157 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: to understand, the dot plots have regularly proved to be 158 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: wildly out of line with reality. You can say the 159 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: same for some of the bond market bits as well, 160 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's a kind of a blind 161 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: ignoring the blind situation going on here. You know, they're 162 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: both guessing estimating what's going to happen. You know, the 163 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: bond market has been certainly remember for quite some time 164 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: that we are heading towards a likely recession with those 165 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: deeply inverted your longer term yield curves. The question now 166 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: is how close are we to that? And I think 167 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: the key for what the bond market is thinking is 168 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: the bond market saying, well, we think there's about a 169 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: fifty percent chance the Fed does indeed hike again in May, 170 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: but if it does, it's then going to cut in June. 171 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: So they're saying to the Fed, you may have already 172 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: made a policy era if you hike again, you will 173 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: have made one. So that's part of the calculation for 174 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: the bond market. They think the Fed has probably done 175 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: too much. Hence they're going to have to cut rates 176 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: by the end of this year. The Fed is saying, 177 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: we think for now we've done enough, maybe not quite enough, 178 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: but you don't think we've overdone it, because we don't 179 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: think that this is going to be a sufficiently dangerous 180 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: financial crisis that it will bring the economy to its knees. 181 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: Will get a read on some of that in the 182 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: next few weeks, and that will perhaps offer some evidence 183 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: as to which of those two sides is closer to 184 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: the mark. Okay Garfield, ronalds Our, Chief Rates correspondent, thank 185 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: you very much for bringing us the latest on that 186 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: after that decision by the Federal Reserve to press ahead 187 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: of the quarter point interest rate hike. Now up next, 188 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: Homegrown bank run, Time to learn French and leadership is taxing? 189 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: Now the paper review on blue Bird day Break Europe. 190 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: The news you need to know from today's papers Brooks 191 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: James wild Cup joins us in the studio with more 192 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: details on those stories. James starting with The Times writing 193 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: about what happened to Silicon Valley Bank UK. Yes, Steven, 194 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: so they pick up on this letter that the Bank 195 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: of England Governor Andrew Bailey has sent to the Trophy 196 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: Sy Committee explaining ahead of a hearing next week, what 197 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: is going on with Silicon Valley Bank UK. And it 198 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: points out that thirty percent of its total deposit base 199 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: was withdrawn within a single day a day a day, 200 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: and that three two point nine billion pounds was able. 201 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: They were able to pay it all out, but it 202 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: would not have been capable to keep doing so with 203 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: the failure of its parents. Now being Bloomberg, I went 204 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: and pulled out the report and actually got the actual numbers. Now, Caroline, 205 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: being an extremely expert journalist, you know the definition of 206 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: liquidity coverage ratio, which is what the bank sets as like, well, 207 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,599 Speaker 1: how far you should be covering your deposits, which is 208 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: you should have enough in liquid assets to cover thirty 209 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: days of outflows. Now, in December twenty twenty one, in 210 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: the entire month at Silicon Valley Bank UK saw nearly 211 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: ten billion pounds in withdrawals, so nine point nine billion. 212 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: By nine am on the tenth of March they'd seen 213 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: nine point two. By one thirty they had seen an 214 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: additional seven point eight, by three pm an additional seven 215 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: point five, and by close ups another seven billion, so 216 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: you're looking at within hours a whole month, which blows 217 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: apart the liquidity coverage ratio and adds that point Jane 218 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: phrase was making earlier in the program that when you 219 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: do see a run in this modern environment, modern technology 220 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: changes the game completely. I think that's absolutely amazing. That's 221 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: so fascinating. Yeah, you're right, this the digital banking is 222 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: with us, and perhaps yeah, this is the consequent speed. 223 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: Let's go to the Telegraph next, James. They're staying with 224 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: their coverage of parts of London's financial sector, moving to Paris. Yes, 225 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: and what is interesting is they're using Bloomberg data to 226 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: show it, which is why I picked this one out. 227 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: They have pulled some Bloomberg data to show the London 228 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: market is now two one hundred and fifty billion dollars 229 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 1: smaller than its French rival, and it's linked. Where the 230 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: Telegraph do seem to add a bit of value here 231 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: is they often write up how the europe and the 232 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: ECB and regulators are putting increasing barriers to traders working 233 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: out from London in European markets, and they pointed out 234 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: that the ECB has previously identified fifty six groups of 235 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: traders who should be doing their jobs in the European Union. Now, 236 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm previous paper reviews of points out in return that 237 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: that's often from a risk perspective, but will sure in 238 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 1: Bloomberg this morning has pointed out the Golden Sax's partner 239 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: Lea Janiv is relocating from London to Paris to become 240 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: the head of Thick there. So this is a real 241 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: and moving story. And where I think Bloomberg sort of 242 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: changes to the Telegraph view is this isn't just Paris, 243 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: and it's weird to make it just a Paris London 244 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: story because breggs it hasn't made Europe a fragmented financial system. 245 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: It is not just all based in London. You are 246 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: seeing shares trading in the Netherlands, corporate lawyers in moving 247 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: to Frankfurt and Dublin, Milan, Madrid and Water also playing 248 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: these supporting roles rather than everything moving through London. It's 249 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: a whole breakup across the picture. Well, that is the 250 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: great question basically where well we still don't really know 251 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: where the great financial and banking center in Europe is 252 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: going to be all indeed, if there will be one 253 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: coalescing around one or not just lastly, we should soon acts. 254 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: Tax returns also came out yesterday afternoon. How did the 255 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: papers write those up? Well, they wrote them up with 256 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: the numbers. Gauline UK premised that he paid more than 257 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: four hundred thousand pounds in tax from that financial one year. Now, 258 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: given the Sunday Times, Rich has estimated he and his 259 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: wife have a net worth of seven hundred and thirty million. 260 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: That is a bit of a disparity, although that still 261 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: makes him one of the richest people in the country. 262 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: I talked to our Finance with John Steppeck and I 263 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: followed up on Dan Needle, He's a friend of the 264 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: show and found of Tax Policy Sociats. They both said 265 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: these are boring returns, but what is interesting is you 266 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: compare the capital gains tax paid versus the income tax paid, 267 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: which is far less, and it built a picture of 268 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: a soon actor. It gives labor this a tax line. 269 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: Angela Reynas said, of your income tax burden, there's a 270 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: lot higher than your capital gains tax burden. And when 271 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: working people are paying a large amount of money, that 272 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: could be a difficult issue for Soon Actor thread as 273 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: one of the wealthiest men in Britain. This is Bloomberg 274 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: Daybreak Europe. 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