1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Is This a Great Game 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: or What? With the Hall of Famer Tim Kirkshon. I'm 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: his son, Jeff Kirkshin. 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: Dad. 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: Good to be back behind the microphone with you, right, And. 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: It's a very personal episode, Jeff, because I went to 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: the Cubs Nationals game the other night and I had 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 2: a really nice chat with their catcher and his name is. 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: Jeff Carson Kelly. 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: Right, So I explain, Look, I've talked to Carson Kelly's 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 2: been the league for ten years. I've talked to him 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: several times, Okay, but this is the first time I 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: approached him to tell him that he has our favorite 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 2: name in baseball because my first born child is Kelly, 15 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: and my firstborn grandchild is Carson. So Carson Kelly becomes 16 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: my favorite baseball name. So when I explained this, he 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: had a bit of a quizzical look on his face, 18 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: but then he said, that's that's really cool. He really 19 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: liked it. And then and you sent me the the 20 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: screen shot? Did I get that right? Jeff? Technically a screenshot. 21 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm proud of you. You're you're doing a lot better 22 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: on the tech lingo, Dad, I gotta. 23 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: Say, right, and it came from David Van Wert, who 24 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: took a picture of Carson Kelly's name on the scoreboard 25 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 2: at Nationals Park, and he wrote to you, some say 26 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: it's the best name in baseball, Carson Kelly, Jeff It's 27 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: not the best name in baseball. It's our favorite name 28 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: in baseball, just because it has such a personal touch 29 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: to it. 30 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: Agreed, Yeah, I mean, and you know, he hit for 31 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: the cycle from the ninth spot, so he's also a 32 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: cork chin. 33 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: It's erfict right, and the first guy ever to hit 34 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: from the ninth spot the cycle before the month of April, 35 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: so he had something to do with it. And when 36 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: I told him that, I wouldn't say he was moved, Jeffrey, 37 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: but really he really appreciated that his name has brought 38 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: so much joy to our little family here. 39 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be the title of a 40 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: chapter of your next book at this point. 41 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think there's any doubt about that. And 42 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: speaking of personal stuff, jeff we had a trade this week. 43 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: Lamont Wade Junior went from the Giants to the Angels. 44 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: The Giants general manager is Zach Manasian and the Angels 45 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: general manager is Perry Manasian. So two brothers made a 46 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: trade and they traded Lemont Wade Junior. By the way, 47 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: he went to the University of Maryland like I did. 48 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: And of course Perry and Zach are both Armenian. And 49 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: you know, my grandparents from my father's side, your father 50 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: your grandfather's side are from Armenia, and we have an 51 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: Armenian last name, so we have a pretty good connection there. 52 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty cool. Not only did two 53 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: general manager brothers make a trade, they're both Armenian. Am 54 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: I overstating this? 55 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: No, it's that's a fantastic. First of all, let's start 56 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: with the brothers aspect of this. Dad, imagine calling your 57 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: brother saying, hey, what you I'm thinking moneyball here. But 58 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: it's conversation between two brothers trying to make a trade. 59 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: And then they catch up with mom a little bit 60 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: later and they say, hey, did you talk to your brother? Yeah, 61 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: we just made a trade. 62 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: I think it's really cool. And you know, the Armenians, Jeff, 63 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: are a very hearty people. They're very loyal and they're great. 64 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: So I'll never forget two thousand and one. I think 65 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: I told you this story before. But in two thousand 66 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: and one, I went to the All Star Game in Seattle. 67 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: I think you went that year, not sure, and we saw. 68 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: I was at one of the parties before the All 69 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: Star Game and an Armenian waiter came up to me 70 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: and looked at me and like stopped dead in his 71 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: tracks and said, oh my gosh, it's you. And thirty 72 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: seconds later and I'm talking to this Armenian waiter. Thirty 73 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: seconds later, another Armenian waiter walks by two Armenian waiters 74 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: in the same at the same party in Seattle, and 75 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: one Armenian waiter says to the other, you got to 76 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: meet this guy. This guy works for ESPN, he's on TV, 77 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: and he's Armenian. This is armand Katayan. So so they 78 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: had the wrong Armenian journalists. So I didn't have any 79 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: other choice than to be armand Katayan for about thirty 80 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: seconds as I shook their hands. And my concern has 81 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: always been that these two Armenian waiters someday are gonna 82 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: meet the real armand Kataian, who's about a foot taller 83 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: than me, and they're gonna say, you know what, twenty 84 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 2: five years ago, some dinky little guy at a party 85 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: said that he was you, which I didn't. They just 86 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: they just got the wrong Armenia has said of Tim Kirchin, 87 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: they thought I was Arman Katayan, which, by the way, 88 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: is a huge compliment for me, given how gifted and 89 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: decorated Arman Katayan is. 90 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: Dan. How many other baseball writers have you been mistaken for? 91 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: I know, may he rest in peace. You've been mistaken 92 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: for Pedro Gomez a couple of times, right, And I'm 93 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: sure back in the day, Peter Gammons, just because you 94 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: guys were both doing baseball tonight and they would just 95 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: kind of think, oh, wait, there's a baseball guy on ESPN. 96 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: Are you Peter Gammons? Have you gotten Buster only before? 97 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 2: Oh, I've gotten just a little bit of everyone. In fact, 98 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: last year at the Little League World Series, the same 99 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 2: thing happened, like the cocktail party in Seattle. Guy comes 100 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: up to me with his like his entire family and says, God, 101 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: I love you on TV. You know more than anyone, 102 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: mister Ravage. It is such a great honor to meet you. 103 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 2: So now now suddenly I'm Karl Ravage, and before or 104 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: I have time to correct myself and say, well, you've 105 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: got the wrong guy, I've now met everyone in the family. 106 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: Now they've said five times, you got to meet Carl Ravage. 107 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,679 Speaker 2: So I became kr Ravage for a few minutes, which 108 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: means for a few minutes, I had the smallest hands 109 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 2: of any adult male in history. And I became a 110 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: four handicap for a five minute period because I had 111 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: no choice but to become Ravy. So I did that. 112 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: Well, Dad, you had to run in at a party 113 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: when it came to our Armenian roots. I don't know 114 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: if I ever told you this story. I was at 115 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: a party in college and I met a friend of 116 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: a friend and she's Armenian. Well, there's loud music going 117 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: on and we're talking and she told me her last 118 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: name was Kurdean and it's loud music, and I say, well, 119 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: that's my last name. It was not, but we found 120 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: out that my last name ku r k j I 121 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: a n and hers k u r d I an 122 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: was very close. And that night we made jokes. You know, man, 123 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: if we brought you home to the family, it would 124 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: be like barely changing your last name. You have to 125 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,239 Speaker 1: change one letter basically. But Dad, another quick Armenian story 126 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: was right after my wife had our baby McKinley. I 127 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: got a DM from the Armenian Sisters Academy in Radner, Pennsylvania, 128 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:28,239 Speaker 1: saying that McKinley had basically already been accepted into kindergarten. 129 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: She was one day old. What if that? 130 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,559 Speaker 1: I mean, it was so crazy and it was very sweet, 131 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: you know, because I've mentioned on the radio here in 132 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: Philadelphia for ninety two five x tou like, oh Kirk Chaanya, 133 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: it's an Armenian last name, you know, talked about that 134 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: from time to time. So they like basically admitted her 135 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: on birth. 136 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: It was great. 137 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: Little do they know. I'm a terrible student, and it's 138 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: a terrible student, thankfully my wife, who was a four 139 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: point zero student. Hopefully our daughter McKinley is more of 140 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: a bookworm. 141 00:07:58,840 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: Like she was. 142 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: But anyway, maybe she'll end up at the Armenian Sisters 143 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: Academy in Radner, piff. 144 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: You weren't a terrible student. You spoke at graduation at 145 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: Syracuse for the New House School. They would not have 146 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: put a bad student to speak at the New House School. 147 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: Well, Dad, just being honest. I mean, we were studying 148 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: how to edit videos and tell a story. Those are 149 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: the good things. I only spoke at my high school 150 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: graduation because I was the class president. But when they 151 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: had this is the most embarrassing moment of my life. 152 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: The principal comes up at our high school graduation, Dad, 153 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: and she's so proud of the education. I'm on the stage, right, 154 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: She's so proud. She says, if you are a scholar, right, 155 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: which means you got like a four ogpa more, please 156 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: stand and all these students stand. If you're this, please stand, 157 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: if you're this, please stand. Now, like eighty percent of 158 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: the graduates are standing, and I'm still sitting on the stage. 159 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: Then they're like, if you went to class stand and 160 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's me. Okay, I'll stand up anyway. Dad, 161 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: And you're my dad. I know you're always going to 162 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: be supportive of me. But let's let's move forward from 163 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: from the Armenian talk for naw. 164 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 2: Right, Jeff, I got to support you one more time. Okay. 165 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: We played golf over the weekend, which we never get 166 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: to do because there's just no time. So my son 167 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: Jeffrey hit a ball two hundred and seventy five yards 168 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: off the tee. He did it twice in one round. Now, 169 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: jeff you're a decent player. You've got a great swing, 170 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: you're a good athlete, but you've never hit a ball 171 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: two seventy five in your life. So I don't think 172 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: I've ever seen you hit a ball two hundred and 173 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 2: fifty yards. So I called Frank from the Elias this morning, 174 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: and I asked in the in the the Jeffrey kirkchen 175 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: era as opposed to the live ball era, the Jeffrey 176 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: Kirkschen era in nineteen ninety three on that was the 177 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: year you were born, right, Yes, okay? Has anyone ever 178 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: hit a ball two seventy five twice in one round 179 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: without ever hitting a ball two hundred and fifty yards 180 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: in any before that? Frank is looking that up for us. 181 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna have a hard time finding that. 182 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: But I still think it was pretty amazing. Jeff, you pounded, 183 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: and I mean crushed two drives that were really, really impressive. 184 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: I will only say one minorly self serving thing is 185 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: I have hit a ball that far one other time. 186 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: I wasn't playing with you, but it was one of 187 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: those flukes, Dad. I hit the cart path twice and 188 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: then it went down a hill. So the hill itself 189 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: was like two you know, I don't know like two 190 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: forty five, but it took me a bounce off the 191 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: cart path two down the hill to get me to 192 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: that two seventy five range, So I gotta say it was. 193 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. I think it's because of the mustache. 194 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: The summer of the stash is giving me some dad 195 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: strength that I didn't think I possessed. But thank you. 196 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. And Dad, you did really good 197 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: from the senior tease this week. Is hey, the tournament. 198 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: I'm sixty eight years old. They weigh one hundred and 199 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: forty pounds. I'm hitting from the senior teas. Don't give 200 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: me a hard time. 201 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: And Dad, you you would have beaten us all if 202 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: you played from our teas. Okay, let it be known 203 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: you were the best guy in our group. 204 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: That is for sure. You played great. 205 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: Okay, let's jump into the takeaways with I think the 206 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: number one story is what just broke yesterday Monday. 207 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: Right, Roman Anthony outfielder has been called up by the 208 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 2: Red Sox. He is the number one prospect in the 209 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 2: minor leagues. And this spring when I saw the Red 210 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 2: Sox Alex Core, their manager told me, you can take 211 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: the twenty best prospects and put them right in front 212 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 2: of you, and you will point to Roman Anthony and 213 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: say that's the best one right there. Just by the 214 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: way he moves, his presence, his athleticism, just the way 215 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: he carries himself. And he's got tremendous power. You know, 216 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: he hit a home run almost five one hundred feet 217 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: the other day in the minor leagues. He stole twenty 218 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: one bases in the minor leagues last year, so he 219 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: can run. He's got great patience for a guy with 220 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 2: great power. In one of the games I did this spring, Jeff, 221 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: he drew an eight pitch walk to lead off an inning, 222 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: which is really impressive for a twenty one year old 223 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: trying to make his way in spring training. So this 224 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: is a great move for the Red Sox. A lot 225 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: of people were wondering, what took you so long. Of course, 226 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: they're calling this the beginning of the Roman Empire, which 227 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: is quite a bit of pressure for a guy who's 228 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: twenty one years old and it's never played in the 229 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: big leagues. Never forget Jeff. A million years ago, when 230 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: Jeff Stone was called up by the Phillies, they called 231 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 2: it the beginning of the Stone Age, and Jeff Stone 232 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: didn't quite work out. Love that guy covered him in Baltimore, 233 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: but that was unfair to do it to him. It's 234 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: probably unfair to do it to Roman Anthony. But I'm 235 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: telling you, this kid has everything it takes to be 236 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: a really, really good major league player, and the Red 237 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: Sox need him right now. 238 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: That's a good opening takeaway, Dad, What other takeaways. 239 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,599 Speaker 2: Do you have? Okay, the Pirates won three games in 240 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 2: a row for the first time this year. They were 241 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: the last team to win finally win three games in 242 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: a row. Even the Rockies won three games in a 243 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: row before the Pirates did. 244 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: So. 245 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: Look, Jeff, I'm not pulling for anyone, but it's never 246 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: good when a team really really struggles, and to see 247 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 2: the Pirates win three games in a row is a 248 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: good thing. But in the last six starts, because Paul 249 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 2: Skeins pitched on Sunday and he's again become the best 250 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: pitcher in the National League and hardly the best in baseball. 251 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: His last six startstep zero point eight five ERA, forty 252 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 2: five strikeouts, and his record in those games is three 253 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 2: and three. Just because they don't score any runs for him, 254 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: and he didn't get the win on Sunday, but the 255 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: Pirates won three games in a row. That's really good. Yeah. 256 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: And the other thing is, did you see when he 257 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: got taken out of the game. 258 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: He was, yeah, well he wants He was like this 259 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: in college. Kyle Peterson, who does college baseball for us, 260 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 2: he's great. He told me, you'll love Paul Skins because 261 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: he never ever wants to come out of a game. 262 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: And a lot of college pitchers, a lot of young 263 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: pitchers are trained by the industry. Six innings, you're done. 264 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: Not Paul Skins. He does not want to come out 265 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: of a game ever. Speaking of great pitching, the Padres 266 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: have twelve. On Sunday, their pitching staff recorded their twelfth 267 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: shutout of the season. So just for some context there, 268 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: the Rockies have twelve wins, the Padres have twelve shutout wins. 269 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: Think about that for a second. Wow, that's never happened 270 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: that we've gotten to the sixty five game mark of 271 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: any season and one team has twelve wins and the 272 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: other team has twelve shutouts. That just speaks to, sadly 273 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: how bad the Rockies have been, but how good the 274 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: starting pitching has been. For the Padres. Cal ralely hit 275 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: another homer, big dumper for the Mariners. He's got twenty 276 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: six home runs through Sunday, so that ties ped Rodriguez 277 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: two thousand for the second most home runs at the 278 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: All Star Break by a catcher. We've got plenty of time. 279 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: The record is twenty eight in nineteen seventy by He 280 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: made us laugh. 281 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: Out Johnny Bench. Johnny Bench, of course. 282 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: Right, okay, sorry about that. Jeff shouldn't have done that. 283 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: Speaking a really good you can always quiz me, Dad. 284 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: I just can't mix up Christian and Bronson Arroreo again. 285 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: I think I'll be out of the wino. 286 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: That was forgivable, all right, Pete crow Armstrong of the Cubs, 287 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 2: Jeff has really rounded into one of the best players 288 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: in the game. We all knew he could run, we 289 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: all knew that he had was a great defensive outfielder. 290 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: But he has really hit. And I was talking to 291 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: Greg Council, Cubs manager, about him the other day and 292 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: he said, it's amazing what this guy can do. How 293 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: he chases the ball out of the strike zone and 294 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: still hits it really hard somewhere, which is which is 295 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: a hard thing to do, but that's how good he is. 296 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: Craig also told me that not only is Pete crow 297 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: Armstrong the fastest player in the league, he said, he's 298 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: a different kind of fast than anyone I've ever seen ever. 299 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: He said, just you know, his quickness, his ability to 300 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: stop and change direction. He said, I've just never seen 301 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: anything like it. And he said defensively, he's the best 302 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: defensive player on the planet, regardless of position on the planet. Jeff, 303 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: that that says an awful lot, doesn't it. It really does. 304 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: And you know it's funny people call him PCA dad, 305 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: And I know you're into abbreviations. So a personal care 306 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: assistant is a PCA, is like, that's what one would 307 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: be in, like the medical field, if you like, go 308 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: to somebody's house. And I know this because a friend 309 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: of mine's girlfriend is a PCA. So I remember when 310 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: they were in Japan and people were saying PCA and 311 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: they had signs and all this stuff. I was like, 312 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: why are they rooting for a personal care assistant? A 313 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: personal care aid? What is that about it? 314 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:12,239 Speaker 2: Oh? 315 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: Pete crow Armstrong, of course. 316 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: Right, he's really really good. And speaking of the Cubs, Jeff, 317 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: they got their first home run from a third basement. 318 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: We've been talking about this all year. So the Cubs 319 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: are the last team in the major leagues this year 320 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 2: to get a home run from their third basement, and 321 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: they're doing it while leading the NL Central. They have 322 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: arguably well, they certainly have one of the best offensive teams, 323 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 2: and they haven't gotten home run production from third. But 324 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: they do have Matt Shaw at third base, and he's 325 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 2: from the University of Maryland. He's a good player and 326 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: he's a good hitter. But he hit his first home 327 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: run as a third baseman on June the seventh. So 328 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 2: now the Cubs are off to nine. I had a 329 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 2: nice chat with Matt Shaw the other day. I told 330 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: him that I graduated in seventy eight. I felt the 331 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 2: need to tell him it was nineteen seventy eight. I 332 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 2: think he got a bit of a chuckle out of that. 333 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but yeah. So we've got two Maryland 334 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: guys in our podcast so far, low Mont Wade Junior 335 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 2: and Matt Shaw. There we go. 336 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: I was about to say a a lot of Terps 337 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: references today. 338 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: Terps Armenians names all very personal to the Kirchen family. 339 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: Well, listen, I mean, if we were doing a professional 340 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: lacrosse league podcast, we have Syracuse all over this one, 341 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: and the University of Maryland a great, actually a great 342 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: lacrosse school. 343 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: Dad. 344 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: Did you ever play lacrosse growing up? 345 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: No, Jeff, I've always been amazed by this. I grew 346 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: up in Montgomery County and I'd never seen lacrosse played 347 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: till I went to the University of Maryland, and no 348 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: one from my county. Well, I wouldn't say no one, 349 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: almost no one from my county ever played that sport. 350 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 2: But anything north of Howard County meeting Baltimore, they all 351 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 2: played lacrosse. So it was so odd how like Columbia 352 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: was the dividing line. Montgomery County didn't play lacrosse, whereas 353 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: everyone north of it did, and now everyone in Montgomery 354 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 2: County plays lacrosse. I wish I had played it. I 355 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: would have loved to have played that game. Yeah. 356 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: And you know, they always said crabcakes and football, that's 357 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: what Maryland is all about. People make the argument that 358 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: now it's crabcakes and lacrosse because lacrosse. There's so many 359 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: great high school lacrosse players come out and play in 360 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: Division one programs. But nobody ever really talks about us 361 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: theater kids. I like to think we're pretty great in 362 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: Montgomery County, Maryland. Let me tell you, wow, find me 363 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: a better Nicely nicely Johnson, my friend, No, Jeff, you. 364 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: Brought the house down as a sophomore. Nicely, nicely Johnson, 365 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 2: sit down, Jeff, you're rocking the boat man. 366 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: Ain't that the truth? 367 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 368 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: That show is all about gambling and drinking alcohol. And 369 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: I spent five years living in Las Vegas, so I 370 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: know what. Nicely nicely Johnson left through. 371 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 2: Let me tell you absolutely. 372 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: All right, Well, dad, we did so much talk about 373 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: the home country Armenia at the top of this one, 374 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: and a little bit about lacrosse. So let's take a 375 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: quick break, and when we come back, we're gonna do 376 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: on this state in baseball history and get our quark gins. 377 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: It's all coming up next. On it's just a great 378 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: game or what? Yeah, hit us with the quark gins 379 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: on is this a great game or what? 380 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: All right, So, the struggling Braves lost a game last 381 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: week in which they were ahead by six runs going 382 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: into the ninth inning. The Diamondbacks won that game, first 383 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 2: time in Diamondbacks history that they won a game down 384 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 2: by six entering the ninth. The last time the Braves 385 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: lost a game like that was seven hundred and sixty 386 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: six straight games ago, meaning they had a six run 387 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: lead going in to the ninth seven hundred and sixty 388 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: six times without losing. The last time they lost that 389 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 2: game was in nineteen seventy three against the Mets. And 390 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 2: this is sad. I'm gonna I don't want anyone to 391 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: get upset. But there are eighteen Mets that played in 392 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 2: that game and only six of them are still alive. 393 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 2: That's how long ago it was, Jeff, that the Braves 394 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 2: lost a game that they led by six runs entering 395 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: the ninth. And this is the best part. When I 396 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: wanted to look at the box score, Jeff, the game 397 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 2: winning well, the game delivering two run single in the 398 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: top of the ninth was delivered by Willy Mays in 399 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: his last year in the major leagues, and he got 400 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: a hit off a Braves reliever. I'm gonna quiz you again, 401 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: a Braves reliever who's been on our show this year. 402 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: She caught Hank Aaron's home run and that his house. 403 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 2: So how great is that? Tom House makes the podcast 404 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 2: again only this time it was giving up a two 405 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 2: run single to Willy Mays at the top of the ninth. 406 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 2: Last time, the Braves lost a game that they led 407 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: by six runs entering the ninth. 408 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: Very impressive. And you know immediately, Dad, when you put 409 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: me on on the tests of who which guest, Jeff, 410 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: I get so nervous because I'm gonna sol one of 411 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: our guests. 412 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 2: Jeff, I hate being I hate being quizzed like that. 413 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 2: I hate it. It's why. 414 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing, if you quizzed me about a player, 415 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: it's another thing. I mean, I got Tom House's number 416 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: in my phone. Embarrassing if I didn't remember. 417 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: All right, not a big deal, Jeff, No, it's okay. Jack. 418 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 2: Hegleone had a four for four game with the Royals. 419 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: Remember we talked about him last week, great prospect on 420 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 2: he had a four for four game. But Jeff, I 421 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 2: love the box score lines of the week, and I 422 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 2: think his is the box score line of the week. 423 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: He had a four zero four zero. This it's pretty 424 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 2: hard to go four for four in a game without 425 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: a run scored or an RBI. And he did it 426 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: not only in a victory, he did it in a 427 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: victory in which his team scored seven runs. And he's 428 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 2: hitting in the middle of the order. So I checked. 429 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 2: The last time any player went four to oh four 430 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: to ohero in a game of which his team scored 431 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: at least seven runs and won the game. The last 432 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 2: time was Bobaschett in twenty twenty two. So Jack Jack 433 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 2: Kegleon will not forget his first four hit game. He 434 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: got four knocks, he and yet he didn't drive in 435 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 2: a straight score run. How weird is that? That is weird? 436 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: And I'm shocked that it happened as early as twenty 437 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: twenty two. 438 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 2: I do. I was too. I thought it would be 439 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 2: much much longer than that. I'm speaking along. So A 440 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 2: George Kirby of the Mariners is a really good pitcher, 441 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: but he was injured early. He's just coming back. He 442 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 2: had a no walk, fourteen strikeout game the other day. 443 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: No walks, fourteen strike That's pretty hard to do, and 444 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 2: he did it with an era his era going in 445 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 2: granted limited sample, but his ERA going in was eight 446 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: point five six. So a guy with an eight point 447 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: five to six ERA had a z zero walk, fourteen 448 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: strikeout game. So that's the highest ERA by anyone ever. 449 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 2: To have a zero walk fourteen strikeout game. The second 450 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 2: highest was done by Randy Johnson in two thousand and 451 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 2: one and it was in April. It was like his 452 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: third start, second third start of the year. So the 453 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 2: era was elevated just because it was a short sample. 454 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 2: But how about those two names, two really good pitchers 455 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 2: that had eras well over seven, one over eight and 456 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 2: had a zero walk fourteen strikeout game. 457 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: You know, Dad, when you say zero walk fourteen strikeouts, 458 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: I think that's what like the first three batters of 459 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: a team did in a game. Stay and age with 460 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: how many strikeouts there are? 461 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 2: Right, totally agree all jeff You know how much I 462 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: love names. We talk about it every week. So I 463 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 2: was in the National's clubhouse the other day and I 464 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: was talking to Cole Henry and we were talking about 465 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 2: quirky names. How many four letter names there are on 466 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 2: the Nationals. Remember we went through that they'll start a 467 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: lineup certain nights where seven of nine guys have four 468 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,719 Speaker 2: letters are in their life, exactly four letters in their 469 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 2: last names. So we get to talking about that and 470 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 2: Cole Henry tells me something that I don't know. His 471 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 2: first name is Jeffrey, which is yours. His middle name 472 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 2: is Cole, and his last name is Henry. So he 473 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 2: looks at me and chuckles and says, I got three 474 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 2: first names, Jeffrey, Cole, Henry. You know how much I 475 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 2: love stuff like that. I'm not sure I've ever looked 476 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 2: up anybody else that has three first names. Pretty cool. 477 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: I mean, Neil Patrick Harris is a good one. 478 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: And what team did he play for? Jeff keeping this 479 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: to baseball, Jeff, all right, Well, I was just thinking 480 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 2: of great guys who have three first names. And he 481 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 2: was an actor, right he was, Yeah, he is an actor, right, yeah? 482 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: James Earl Jones, Oh, Jeff, you're way ahead of me, right, 483 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: Jones is in a first name. But continue place. 484 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: You got it, all right? Speaking of names, this was great. 485 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: This came from Max Manus on Twitter or x whatever 486 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: we call it. He wrote something in that frankly I 487 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: had already noticed, but he presented it. When's the last 488 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: time a picture and a batter faced each other where 489 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: the picture's last name is the past tense of the 490 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 2: hitter's name. So we had David Frye batting for the Guardians, 491 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 2: and Max Freed spelled fried was the picture. So I 492 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: give Max tremendous credit for pointing out that we had 493 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 2: a guy named Fry and a guy who spells his 494 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: last name Fried as a picture batter matchup a dad. 495 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: I had so many people message us on our social 496 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: media at great game or what on Facebook, on TikTok 497 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: and on Instagram that exact people were sending us photos 498 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: of it, and they're saying, I know it's pronounced freed, 499 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: but you gotta talk about it. Not only so many 500 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: people did. And then when I got back, I was 501 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: watching the Red Sox Yankees game, and you know, the 502 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: Tonys were on Sunday, and we had Hamilton Hamilton a 503 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: batter pitcher matchup in the Red Sox Yankees game, and 504 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I just think neither of them are throwing 505 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: away their shot, wouldn't. 506 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: You say, right, yeah, yeah, David Hamilton, Ian Hamilton. That's 507 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: really cool. I liked it more when Ian Hamilton pitched 508 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 2: for the White Sox and routinely, well not routinely, several 509 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: times Ryan Burr pitched in the same game, so we 510 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 2: had a Burr Hamilton pitching in the same game on 511 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 2: the same team. Love that one. 512 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: Both of them pitching like they're running out of time, 513 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: He asked me, exactly. All right, I'm just naming Hamilton 514 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: songs at this point that we'll stay with me. 515 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 2: I don't know any of them. Jeff, Sorry, we saw 516 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 2: Hamilton together. 517 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: We need another episode where Lynn Manuel Miranda comes up, 518 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: so I'm just gonna say his name because this will 519 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: be three episodes now that Lynn Manuel Miranda has at 520 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: least appeared on the podcast. Another three names. 521 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 2: All right, Well, as a tribute today, as a tribute 522 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: to David Fry and to Max Freed, we're going to 523 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 2: give the all Cooking team. Okay, talk about a stretch. 524 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: So we have Max Freed spelt Fried also on the 525 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: pitching staff Austin Kitchen from a couple of years ago. 526 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 2: Steve Grilly, Tom Butters. You know you have to butter 527 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 2: things in order to cook totally. Jp Sears. You have 528 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 2: to see your meat, boyle we when I have to 529 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 2: explain this stuff, Jeff, it's really bad. We have Eric Fryer, 530 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: which is not the same as David Fry or Max Freed. 531 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: All right, he's our catcher. Seth Brown. Well, that's a stretch. 532 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: You have to brown things when you're cooking. Edward Julian 533 00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: Julianne potatoes. Oh boy, this is really bad. Cliff Cook 534 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: is a good one. He's our third baseman. 535 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, David Freese, you got a freeze things, right? 536 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's pretty good. I'm not sure. Yeah, that's 537 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 2: pretty good. Jeff, you're contributing. Jeff Fry is spelled Frye 538 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 2: is the shortstop. So you know the rules, Jeff, you 539 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 2: can't use the same name more than once. But we 540 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: have different spellings. And since this is my these are 541 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 2: my teams, I make the rules. 542 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: Who's the second baseman? 543 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: The second baseman and Eduard Julianne. Third basement is Cliff Cook. 544 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: Oh okay, is Jeff Fry So if the shortstop were 545 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: to make a put out to the third basement, he'd 546 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: be fry Cook right exactly. 547 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: Very good, Jeff, very good. David fryes the DH and 548 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 2: our outfield is buzz Boil. You have to boil all 549 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: sorts of things when you're cooking. Dusty Baker and our 550 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: fake and Bake McBride. So that's our all cooking team. 551 00:29:59,480 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: Love it. 552 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: Shout out Bake McBride. That brings me back to the 553 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Boone episode from last year, right, Bake McBride. 554 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 2: And nobody does it better Bake McBride batting stance impersonation 555 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: than Aaron Boone. 556 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: He's the best dad on this date in baseball history. 557 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: What do you have for us? So in nineteen eighty one, 558 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: this is also personal to me. This was the night 559 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 2: that Pete Rose tied Stan Musial's record for hits in 560 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 2: the history of the National League at thirty six thirty. 561 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: So that night in Philadelphia, Jeff Pete Rose got a 562 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: hit off of Nolan Ryan to tie Stan Musial. So 563 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 2: we think, all right, he's going to get another hit 564 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 2: in this game and pass Stan Musial. Instead, Nolan Ryan 565 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 2: struck him out three straight times. And I'm telling you, Jeff, 566 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 2: it was it was almost like Nolan Ryan, who had 567 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 2: a mean streak in him, as wide as anyone, even 568 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 2: though he's the nicest man in the world. He said, 569 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: there's no way I'm going to let Pete Rose get 570 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: two hits off of me and pass Stan Musical tonight. 571 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: So he punched him out three times, and I'll never 572 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 2: forget Jet. After that game in Philadelphia, I got in 573 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: my car and I drove to New York and I 574 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 2: had to cover you know, a really big meeting. For 575 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: the nineteen eighty one it was a labor meeting about 576 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 2: the strike which was impending. So they played the next 577 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: day on Monday, the eleventh of June, but on June 578 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 2: the twelfth, all the games went away. So that was 579 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 2: a very personal thing to be a. I got to 580 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 2: see Pete Rose get those hits one hit, I got 581 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 2: to see Nolan Ryan strike them out three times, and 582 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 2: then I had to drive to New York for the 583 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: worst assignment of my life because a I had no 584 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 2: idea how to cover a labor meeting of any sort, 585 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 2: and baseball stopped two days later because the players went 586 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 2: on strike. It was terrible, Dad. 587 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: I've seen on the internet a little bit here people 588 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: not giving enough respect to Nolan Ryan simply because he 589 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: didn't win any Cy Young Awards. 590 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 2: Jeff, Look, we got to understand, Nolan Ryan is not 591 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 2: the greatest pitcher ever. Okay, quite literally, not the greatest one. 592 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: But he's the greatest power pitcher ever. He's the greatest. 593 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 2: He's the hardest pitcher to hit in Major League history, 594 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 2: and he is a physical freak. He threw the ball 595 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 2: as hard as any pitcher alive for a twenty five 596 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 2: year span. So Nolan Ryan is the answer to a 597 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 2: million trivia questions. But when you ask who's the best 598 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 2: pictuer of all time, it's not Nolan Ryan. But he's 599 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: he's least in the discussion because of the strikeout rate 600 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 2: and everything else, anything else. On this date in baseball history, 601 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 2: we have some Well, Jeff Manto on this date hit 602 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 2: He hit home runs in four consecutive at bats, not 603 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 2: in the same game, it was over two games. But 604 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: I only mentioned that because Jeff Mante was a utility guy. 605 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 2: In fact, he was such a utility I love Jeff 606 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: mantew He made me laugh a million times. He was 607 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: a utility guy who played like every position and that 608 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 2: was his strength. He used to carry thirteen gloves. Thirteen 609 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: gloves with him on every road trip. You know, you 610 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: use a different glove at second base than he would 611 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 2: add shortstop or at third base. He had a first 612 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 2: baseman's mint, a catcher's mint, all outfielders glove, all this stuff. 613 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 2: So he said, I said, Jeff, thirteen gloves you have 614 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 2: He goes. Yeah. The guys on the team called me 615 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: store because he had so many things gloves that he 616 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: must have gotten from the store, and he said, and 617 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 2: the equipment man hates me because he's got to pack 618 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 2: all thirteen gloves. So good. So that was Jeff Manteu 619 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety five. I love this. Nineteen fifty five, 620 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 2: Floyd Banister was born. Floyd Banister was a very good pitcher, 621 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 2: went to Arizona State, one of the number one overall 622 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 2: pick in the country. And later his son, Brian Banister, 623 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: pitched in the major leagues. And one night, more than 624 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 2: one night, Brian Banister faced off against Gavin Floyd. So 625 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: you know how much I love pitching matchups. So the 626 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 2: pitching matchup was Floyd Banister, and Floyd Banister is. 627 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: The name of the father of Brian Banister. 628 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 2: Who pitched in the game. 629 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: You love those name connections every time I do. 630 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 2: And last one on this date in nineteen seventy three, 631 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 2: Pokey Reese was born. Love Pokey Reese. See I could 632 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 2: tell you one hundred poke Ree stories. But he was 633 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 2: a great defensive shortstop who could move really fast, very 634 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 2: low to the ground, which was his greatest strength. But 635 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 2: I'll never forget. On March thirty first, two thousand and four, 636 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 2: your mother, Kathy and I were invited to the White 637 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 2: House by President. I'm not dropping names here. It was 638 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 2: a big baseball dinner, so we got to go to 639 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: the White House. President George W. Bush invited us, and 640 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 2: Peter Gammons was there, and we based he walked into 641 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: the White House at the same time, and we're walking 642 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 2: past all of these historic features of the White House 643 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 2: on the way to the room where we're gonna eat. 644 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 2: And I can't help it, I said to Peter, because 645 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 2: we just finished in spring training. I said, Okay, who's 646 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 2: the who do you think the Red Sox shortstop is 647 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 2: going to be? Because there was a big debate, so 648 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 2: he said, I think it's going to be Pokey Reese. 649 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 2: So now here we are having a discussion about Pokey Reese, 650 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 2: and your mother, Kathy, to her eternal credit, looks at 651 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 2: me and Peter and says, fellas we're in the White House, 652 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 2: do you really think this is the time to be 653 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 2: talking about Pokey Reese? Got to hand it to your mom. 654 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 2: There pretty good live. 655 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: I wish I was in the other car now, Dad, 656 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: is it a prerequisite that if your last name's Reese, 657 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: you've got to have a great first name. We've got 658 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: Pokey Reese pee Wee Reese. Like, I think it's just 659 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 1: you gotta have a prerequisite of a of a fun 660 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: first nickname. 661 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, well we rich Rees. I grew up watching 662 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 2: not a Jimmy Reese was a was the a roommate 663 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 2: of Babe Ruth, not a not a unique name. But 664 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 2: Jimmy Reese was the first guy I'd ever heard who 665 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 2: could pitch batting practice with his fungo. Wow, I told 666 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 2: jose Kendo could do that. You throw the ball up 667 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 2: on the pitcher's mound and using your fungo, you hit 668 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 2: it across home plate. Jimmy Reese could do that. And 669 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 2: I saw jose O Kendo do that. 670 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 1: And you can't even make jokes with the Baseball encyclopedia. 671 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: Just making a joke about pee wee and poke and 672 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: you're like, well, let me name five other players for. 673 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 2: The last race. I wish I had more reasons for you, Jeff, 674 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: But that's the best I could do. 675 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: Now, that's pretty good. I mean with with the fungo 676 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: bat is pretty impressive, Dad. But if fungo a kendo, 677 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: I think SVP would have a field day with that story. 678 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 2: Right, Well, we gotta get We got to get scott Va, Pelton, 679 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 2: just to talk about the new Pope. How would he 680 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 2: say that, Pope Leo from Chicago, He went to Neuva. 681 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: Oh god, it's so bad, it's so good, all right, Dad, 682 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: Well let's wrap it on that. We've got so much 683 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: for you. If you haven't subscribed yet, if you haven't 684 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: followed yet, wherever you listen, whether it's Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 685 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: wherever Great Game or what dot com, please follow and subscribe. 686 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: It's completely free for you and we can't wait for 687 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 1: you to become a part of our family. 688 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 2: Dad, thanks so. 689 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: Much for a great episode. 690 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 2: Thank you, Jeff had a great time talking to you 691 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 2: here tomorrow. 692 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening, and thanks for always 693 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: being a part of our family.