1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Mental health is now talked about more than ever, which 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: is awesome. I mean, I don't have to tell you 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: that it's a primary focus of on Purpose, but on 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: a day to day basis, many people don't know where 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: to turn or which tools can help. Over the past 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: couple of years, I've been working with Calm to make 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: mental wellness accessible and enjoyable, or as I like to say, 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: fun and easy. Calm has all sorts of content to 9 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: help you reduce anxiety and stress, build mindful habits, improve sleep, 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: and generally feel better in your daily life. 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I'm so excited because today we're 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: going to do something a little different. I'm going to 21 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: share with your conversation that I recently had where I 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: was being interviewed that I think you're gonna love it 23 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: was with the U Up Podcast. And if you're someone 24 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: who's been struggling with dating, this episode's for you. If 25 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: you've been struggling with an ick, this episode's for you. 26 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: And if there's a friend in your life that you 27 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: know would really appreciate some greater insights on dating and relationships, 28 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: this episode's for them. I hope you enjoy it. 29 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 2: The number one health and wellness. 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: Podcast, Jay Shetty, Jay Shetty, only she. 31 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 2: We love a special. 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 3: Guest, very special guest. One of our most popular episodes 33 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: of last year. 34 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, if not the most, the beloved we should. So 35 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: that's how I'm gonna refer to you. It the beloved 36 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: Jay Shetty. Thank you for coming back on the show. 37 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me back. We had 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: so much fun last time, so I'm looking forward to this. 39 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: So much fun. It's great to have you. I you know, 40 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: we are in awe of you and your success. I 41 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: think that that that's something we we and I you 42 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: came in the first time, and I don't want to 43 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: be the guy. I don't want to you know, I'm 44 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: a cynic on everything. 45 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, and if. 46 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 2: That's the thing I go, I like, well, yeah, I 47 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: walked away. And but you come at things in ways 48 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: that I wouldn't come at them. I come at with 49 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: like I'm the gremlin hater. 50 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 3: The the like I would say, like the more like 51 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 3: cynical male point of view. 52 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: Right, And I sometimes I hear some of the you know, 53 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 2: you're such a calming, positive influence that like you can 54 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: tell people are just happy to have you in their lives, right, 55 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: Is that what it is? You think they're just happy 56 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: that like you, Like you're the friend they'd go to 57 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: when they're hungover, and you'd be like, it's gonna be fine, 58 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: this is gonna wear off. 59 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 4: We're gonna have some bacon, egg and cheeses. You'll be good. 60 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean talking about that. I remember being the sober friend. 61 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: Early on. I was in Spain with some of my 62 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: friends and everyone was completely hammered apart from me. This 63 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: is when I'd chosen to start my you know, stopping 64 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: drinking alcohol. When I was going out and all of 65 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: my friends, I was trying to tell them that some 66 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: bad stuff was going on and that we should leave 67 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: this club. That we were at and they were like, 68 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: you're the worst friend ever having the best time. 69 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 4: You're ruining it. So I'm actually used to be in 70 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 4: that friend when. 71 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: Everyone else you're ruining the part. 72 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm ruining the party because I'm trying to protect everyone 73 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: from themselves. 74 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: So you don't drink. 75 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 4: No, I haven't. I haven't drunk for years now. 76 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's how many years. 77 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 4: I think it would be fifteen years now, right? 78 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: It was? It not a big part of your life before. 79 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: It was a part of my life in the sense 80 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: of I love drinking games. I love the competitive aspect 81 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: of drinking being out. Ring a fire was something we 82 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: played a ton of when. 83 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: We were ring a fire. 84 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: So in London, I guess everyone starts drinking quite early too, 85 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: so we started like fourteen, and so the guys would 86 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: get together we'd play this game called ring a Fire 87 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: where you have this big pitcher in the middle that's 88 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: left in the middle. You all get a glass of 89 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: beer each. As far as I remember this, the picture 90 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: in the middle is surrounded by cards playing cards laid 91 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: face down, and every card has a different meaning. So 92 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: when you pick up the card, you have to do 93 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: a certain action and the last person to do it 94 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: has to drink, or the card tells you that you 95 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: have to drink first, or you have to tell a 96 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: joke and if someone doesn't laugh, then you have to drink. Like, 97 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: there's all these sounds really fun. It's so good, and 98 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: then and then every time you keep drinking more. And 99 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: my favorite one was there's one where like the more 100 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: fingers you can hold towards someone's glass of beer, the 101 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: more SIPs that they have to take, and things like that. 102 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: So it's a super fun competitive game. And I'm probably 103 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: explaining it badly and Google probably do a better job. 104 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: You will play the game without drinking, do you know 105 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 3: what I've. 106 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 4: Thought about that. 107 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: I've really thought about how we could make that fun. 108 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: But I think it was partly the fact that you 109 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: get delirious after, you know. 110 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 4: Just sixs. 111 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: I've never heard someone be like I was in it 112 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: for the game. 113 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like if they're an AA, I mean. 114 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 3: I can see that you kind of want to participate away, right, 115 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: I played. I played Flip Water with many of my 116 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: pregnant friends. Yeah, it's it's almost as fun. 117 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 2: That's a good way to put it. 118 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 4: I just love I love sports. I love competition. 119 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: I love Yeah, I love games. 120 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: I love it. Well, you know, everyone go listen to 121 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: Jay's podcast on Purpose. It's out. What you have the 122 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:26,559 Speaker 2: guest list is something that you can't not acknowledge. Who's 123 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: the guest that you were like, what's I can't believe this? 124 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 4: Oh that's a great question. I'm glad. 125 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're getting into this as well. I'd love 126 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts as well and who you felt that, 127 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: because it's I feel that. 128 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: Was our He's coming back. 129 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 4: What Okay, that's such a great time, I think. 130 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: So I want to acknowledge that, you know, when you 131 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: launch a podcasts and you guys know this. When I launched, 132 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: when I was coming up with the idea, it was 133 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: so hard to book anyone because people have never heard 134 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: of it. There was no stats, there's no data. You're 135 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: trying to get someone to understand that you're going to 136 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: create this safe space and people don't get it. And 137 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: so I remember that day, which was five years ago. 138 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: Now the podcast is five years old, but I want 139 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: to acknowledge the first guest that made me feel that 140 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: way was when Kobe Bryant came on in twenty nineteen, 141 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: and that was the first year the podcast had come out. 142 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: His team had reached out because his team loved what 143 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: we were doing on the show and they wanted Kobe 144 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: and I to connect. 145 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: And me, his team reaches out explain that, so like 146 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: Joe Ohio, who's sitting in their car, So this is 147 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: like his on their way to not a team. 148 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: Everyone who's in his life, so whether it's his assistant, 149 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: whether it's a publicist, whether it's a different people who 150 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: had a role in his creative company that he had 151 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: so employees, team members, and they'd mentioned to him that 152 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: they thought it would be cool for us to connect. 153 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: And so when they reached out, that to me was 154 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: huge and to have that in year one, that was 155 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: a huge honor that year that he decided to do that, 156 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: So that was pretty well be amazing. 157 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: It's a little bit like Domino was, like, you know, 158 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: Kobe did it, he felt safe absolutely, you know, then everyone, oh, oh, 159 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: I've cobbsolutely. It's a little bit like that. 160 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I've got to give him a lot of 161 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 4: credit for that opportunity. 162 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: And since then, you've had everyone from like Kendall Jenner 163 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: to Michelle Obama, which is you know, you must just 164 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: be like. 165 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: I all you get to speak to I'm pinching myself 166 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: all the time. I'm feeling really, really nervous walking into 167 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: those rooms and while I'm preparing, and I'm feeling, you know, 168 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: every bit of imposter syndrome that you possibly can when 169 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: you're doing this. So, yeah, I feel super grateful every day. 170 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's been amazing. I mean, Kendall, was you 171 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: spoke about Kendall. I think that was a really important 172 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: one in our journey of the show. She came on 173 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: at a time when her episode just brought so many 174 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: new listeners to our universe, and I always always thank 175 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: her for that because it was amazing that people are like, oh, 176 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: we haven't really heard her speak that much and not 177 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: for that long, and and you know, I think what 178 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: she shared was so powerful and insightful, Like that clip's 179 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: gone viral like a million times of her talking about 180 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: how she thinks about her youngest and she has a 181 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: picture of herself at the mirror. Yeah, and some practice 182 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: that she'd done with her therapist. And so I think, 183 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: you know, I'm really grateful to everyone who trusts me 184 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,559 Speaker 1: and trusts our space and comes on because it takes 185 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: a lot for that person, and I want to acknowledge 186 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: that it's never easy to open your heart and open 187 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: your mind in that way. And so, yeah, each of 188 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: those people that you've mentioned have have made massive shifts. 189 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: Kevin Hart came on and that was, you know, so 190 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: much fun. 191 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:25,559 Speaker 4: Again. 192 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: He had this amazing audiobook, which people don't know Kevin 193 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: Hart for audiobooks, but his audiobook is amazing. It's called Monsters, 194 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: and he talks about all the monsters that we deal 195 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: with inside of our mind. So it's philosophical and comedic 196 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: and he's obviously reading it and it's hilarious, and you know, 197 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: being able to dive into him from the perspective of 198 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: monsters and the monsters he has inside of him, it was, 199 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 1: you know, it's a spectacular conversation. So I think, yeah, 200 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: all of these guests have made it easy for me, 201 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: and I'm really grateful. 202 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 3: What do you think it is about your show that 203 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: like these people again, like Kendall Jenner doesn't do it. 204 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 3: These aren't people aren't doing interviews constantly. What do you 205 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 3: think it is about your show that just makes them 206 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: want to do your show? 207 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: I think that all podcasts have a really unique offering, right, 208 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: Like I think people go on a podcast. When I 209 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: came on yours for the first time, is because from 210 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: what i'd seen and from what I was hearing from 211 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: my team, everyone's like, Jay, they're going to get into 212 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: stuff that no one else is going to ask you, Right, 213 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: this podcast is going to ask you questions when you 214 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: were talking about being cynical. My team had already said 215 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: that that there's going to be a version. Oh my 216 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: team is my you know my podcast? Yeah, yeah, my 217 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: podcast producer who is a huge fan of the show, 218 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: and she's like, I think you're going to get asked 219 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: questions that you wouldn't get asked anywhere else. And so 220 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: that's exciting for me because I also don't want to 221 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: have the same conversation. I want to have different conversation. 222 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: That's why I came here. And so I think people 223 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: coming on purpose because they know that there's going to 224 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: be a safe space to explore depths of themselves that 225 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: maybe isn't right on other platforms, And so I'm hoping 226 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: we've created a space where people can talk about their challenges, 227 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: their flaws, their imperfections, the stresses of life, the perplexities 228 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:17,239 Speaker 1: they've had with childhood trauma, their personal mental health journeys 229 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: in a way that is relevant, accessible and practical. 230 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: I like the perspective, and that's that's usually where I 231 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 2: come to with everything I hear from you. It's like, 232 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: I like the road you took because I'm looking at 233 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: that and I go, like you You're like, basically, oh, 234 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: this show could open a door in my brain that 235 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: I don't mind opening, but I didn't even know was 236 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: there before exactly. I have that with like, you know, 237 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 2: if someone comes up to me and it's like, I 238 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: have a note for you for a joke I heard 239 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: you do, would you and it's it could be anybody, 240 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: and I'm like, sometimes it's like an old dad who's 241 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: gonna tell me a borsch belt joke and I'm gonna 242 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: have to, like, you know, he's gonna like be exhausting. 243 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: But sometimes some I won't say something I don't even 244 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 2: know what it's going to lead to me thinking, or 245 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 2: a story that I've never thought of. So you know, 246 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: I understand that where you're like, oh, I'm up for 247 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 2: the game of okay, where will this go? But I 248 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: know it's going to be safe in a little. 249 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: Bit totally in every podcast I think placed to that, right, Like, 250 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: if you want to show a certain part of your personality, 251 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: I think there's so many podcasts to do that differently 252 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: on and so we're just trying to cater to this 253 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: side to that. 254 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 4: To that point, I have a question that's okay, what 255 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 4: do you hate? 256 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: You had a bad day? 257 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want I want to hear cynical, Jay, shitty? 258 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: I want to I want miserable, horrible day? 259 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 3: Who hate? 260 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: What do you hate? What's the last time? 261 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 3: On the list of approved questions, well, I want. 262 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: To, like, I want that, Jay, and I listen because 263 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: it's within us all But was there a moment? Is there? 264 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 2: When's the last time? 265 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: Do you get triggered? 266 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 267 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: So I'll give it a background because I'm not I'm 268 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: not a very monk way to go, I get it, No, 269 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: So I'll give a bit of background. So anger and 270 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: hatred have generally not been a part of my psychological 271 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: approach because I saw a lot of it growing up, 272 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: and so I made notes growing up going I won't 273 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: demonstrate anger in that way, I won't express hatred growing up, 274 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: So in my own homes, sow in my schools, saw 275 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: it in my extended family, Like I saw it very 276 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: very up close, in a very extreme form, and I 277 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: made a pact with myself that anger was not something 278 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: that I was going to play with because I saw 279 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: the ramifications it had with other people. 280 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 4: Do you think you. 281 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: Can do that with anger? Like there's people out there 282 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: that I'm sure like I get angry. I would love 283 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: to say, you don't get angry and go I guess 284 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: I'm never angry anymore. Like I think an anger is 285 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: an anger like a sneeze or is it like a car? 286 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 287 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying getting angry is bad, and I'm 288 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: not saying that we shouldn't get angry, and it's not 289 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: a natural emotion. I think it's an emotion that I 290 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: kind of negotiated with very early on because I saw 291 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: what it did, at least in the world that I 292 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: grew up in. 293 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: I've had bad days, so that, thank god. 294 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: Let's not express them in probably these. 295 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: I think if there's anything that does trigger me and 296 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: does upset me, and which is funny because what I'm 297 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: about to say is me breaking my own rule, but 298 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: it upsets me when we don't give others the benefit 299 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: of the doubt. So when I see people not giving 300 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: other people the benefit of the doubt or giving them space. 301 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 4: It triggers me. 302 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: But the funny thing is that means I'm not giving 303 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: that person the benefit of the doubt. So then I great, 304 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: like you know, and that's what happens. And so of 305 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: course I'm a human. I get triggered, I get upset, 306 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: I have a bad day. I think the biggest thing 307 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: for me when I'm having a bad day is probably 308 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: when I feel that someone in my life is being 309 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: unnecessarily targeted in their own life, dealing with pain, dealing 310 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: with stress, dealing with pressure, some pains coming at them 311 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: that they don't deserve that I don't understand. And so 312 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. 313 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: Do you of a time where someone in your life 314 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: was you felt wrongfully targeted? Or yourself or yourself? Do 315 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: you read things about yourself? Do you see things and 316 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: you go and you and because I listen, we were 317 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: all on yeah, and we know and what we have 318 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: to do constantly and again we have to like the 319 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: thing that is I think it's the worst podcast topic, 320 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: and we do it all the time because it's it's 321 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 2: it's it's like catnip, it's it's it's it's right there 322 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: for you to do is responding to feedback when ninety 323 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: nine percent of it, Like Jay, I'm sure you get 324 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: messages you've changed my life you and it's and you 325 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: probably get messages that are like I've gotten messages that 326 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: bring you to tears. You go, oh my god, this 327 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: was me talking about my farts. It's not supposed to 328 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: make you feel better about a death in your family. 329 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: And you get those messages and you probably get ninety 330 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: nine percent of those, and then you get the one 331 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: and you're like, you just want to like grab them 332 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: and go again. Benefit of the doubt? How did you 333 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: come to this such hateful space from when my goal 334 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: was positive? 335 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: How do you take yourself out of it? 336 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: And I think, don't you feel though? And I will 337 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: talk about it, but don't you feel though that over 338 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: time you've just become you've recognized that it's part of 339 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: the job. Like you've accepted that it's part of the job. 340 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: So like, for example, let's take Michelle Obama. We did 341 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: this interview with Michelle Obama, which was huge moment for Yeah, 342 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: huge moment for me. So grateful, Like you said, ninety 343 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: nine percent of the comments, so like this is interviews, right, 344 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: incredible and everything, And then at the same time you 345 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: have a lot of people going like why would you 346 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: sit down with her because of their political beliefs, or 347 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: like Jay, you sold out, or you know, why would 348 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: you do this? And what I've found is that, again 349 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: me giving that person the benefit of the doubt, that 350 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: often that remark is based on something historical far before me, right, 351 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: and has pretty much very little to do with me, 352 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: and an expectation of me that I'll never live up 353 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: to in that I'm always going to do things that's 354 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: gonna set someone and I've I've kind of come to 355 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: terms with that. And on the other side, I found 356 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: that if you actually look at the comment section of 357 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: people who actually watched the video yeah, the comment section 358 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: is completely different, Like people have actually watched the interview, 359 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: listen to the words yeah instead of the thirty second 360 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: clip or whatever it may be. If they watched the 361 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: YouTube version, you're seeing like completely transform people, even people 362 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: saying I don't agree with the politics, but this interview 363 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: helped me with this. 364 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: This this it annoys me that they have to say that, 365 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: Like it annoys me that you know, the person they 366 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: always that person well I Usually it's like, oh, you 367 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: must be an expert now because you were able to 368 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: see beyond your own initial thoughts on someone. How could 369 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: someone like I anyway? 370 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, so yes I would. Yes, my stars are just 371 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 4: like us. Yeah. 372 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: My personal rule is I'm happy for someone to leave 373 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: any honest opinion of theirs, as long as they're still 374 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: following me. But if someone unfolds me and wants to 375 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: leave a comment, then and it's hate and that's a comment, 376 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: So I think that's. 377 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 3: Feedback from anyone who doesn't. 378 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 4: I'll take the feedback. 379 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: But I feel like if you're saying, Jay, I've had 380 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: it with you, I'm unfollowing, and then you've unfollowed and 381 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: you've left other heightful comments to me, then it's like, well, 382 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: we're not in the same community and they were in 383 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: the same space. But if someone's following me and they 384 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: want to leave lots of comments that tell me feedback 385 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: or things they don't like, I will leave it up 386 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: there because I still consider them a part of our community. 387 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: I haven't left the conversation, right. 388 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: I couldn't be more excited to share something truly special 389 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: with all you tea lovers out there, and even if 390 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: you don't love tea, if you love refreshing, rejuvenating, refueling 391 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: sodas that are good for you, listen to this RADI 392 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: and I poured our hearts into creating Juny sparkling tea 393 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: with adaptogens for you because we believe in nurturing your 394 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: body and with every sip you'll experience calmness of mind, 395 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: a refreshing vitality, and a burst of brightness to your day. 396 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: Juni is infused with adaptogens that are amazing natural sub 397 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: distances that act like superheroes for your body to help 398 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: you adapt to stress and find balance in your busy life. 399 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 4: Our super five. 400 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: Blend of these powerful ingredients include green tea, ushwagandha acirolla 401 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 1: cherry and Lion's made mushroom and these may help boost 402 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: your metabolism, give you a natural kick of caffeine, combat stress, 403 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: pack your body with antioxidants, and stimulate brain function even better. 404 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: Juny has zero sugar and only five calories per can. 405 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: We believe in nurturing and energizing your body while enjoying 406 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: a truly delicious and refreshing drink, So visit Drinkjuni dot 407 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: com today to elevate your wellness journey and use code 408 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: on purpose to receive fifteen percent off your first order. 409 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: That's drink Juni dot com, and make sure you use 410 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: the code on purpose. 411 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 2: I kind of think of social media as my party. Yes, 412 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 2: and if you come in and well, I block people, 413 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: even if third because it's Tuesday, right, I randomly go through. 414 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 4: I like this analogy with the party. I have a 415 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 4: similar one with the house. 416 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 2: Well. I think of it as like, this is my party. 417 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: The music's playing. You have walked in. There are people 418 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 2: here dancing. I don't care how many. I don't care, 419 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 2: but people are happy to be here. And you came 420 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: in and go I hate this music. Let me lead 421 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: you to the door. We're going to keep the music playing, 422 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: but you got to leave. You don't want to be here. 423 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: It's okay, goodbye. 424 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: So I'm okay with someone being at the putt and 425 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: saying I don't like the music. They can stay. But 426 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: it's the person who goes all right, I don't like 427 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: the music. I'm leaving. But then they still want to 428 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: have their opinion being. 429 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 2: Through the window. 430 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: Right. 431 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 3: This is a dating podcast. You've written a dating book, 432 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 3: Eight Rules of Love, which was great. I read it amazing. 433 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 3: If you guys haven't read it yet from our last episode, 434 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: you should check it out now anywhere books are sold, 435 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 3: I assume. But what you so, you've done a lot 436 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: of research on love, you wrote a whole book about it. 437 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 3: What do you think if you look at like the 438 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 3: dating landscape now, what do you think is like the 439 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: biggest issue? Because there's a lot of people who are, 440 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 3: I feel like, very frustrated with it, and I mean 441 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 3: from from from emails a lot of women. What do 442 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: you feel like is the is the biggest mistake people 443 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: are making when they're dating. 444 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: I think the biggest mistake people are making when they're 445 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 1: dating right now is that their list of ix and 446 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: turnoffs are so long and so wide and so far 447 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: arranging that you may miss out on an incredible human 448 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: being because they wear jewelry and you know, and you know, 449 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: drink their. 450 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 4: With a straw, right like whatever it is like? 451 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: And I started following this really funny TikTok account called 452 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: I think it's called guy with the list and what 453 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: he does, and I don't even know what he looks 454 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: like because he actually never I don't think he's posted 455 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: himself or her or them whoever runs it. And what 456 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: they do is they help play all these found clips 457 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: of people all over the Internet saying their biggest ick 458 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: and turnoff. And then he'll add to his list and 459 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: his list is at like six hundred now with all 460 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: these ridiculous things and so. And I know it's a 461 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: bit tongue in cheek and it's a bit funny, but 462 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: I do think it is that, like we get turned 463 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: off so quickly by things that are not actually important. 464 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 4: In a relationship. 465 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: Like I always ask people like does this make someone 466 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: inept at being a good partner or is it just 467 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: something that you don't like about them? Right? Is it 468 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: a preference? And I think that that preference versus priority 469 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: conversation is huge. 470 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 2: Well that's like, you know, I mean not to go 471 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: to plug City. But on my Netflix special, the opening 472 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: bit is about how I'm on the dating apps and 473 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 2: you get in front of it. The dating apps offer 474 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: you a menu at a restaurant and you're looking at 475 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: it and you're going, well, I'm not that type of person. 476 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: It's not even allowing you to smell the person, be 477 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 2: around the person, and you say, I'm not going to 478 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: data Darlene and then if you met a Darlene in 479 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: a bar that you got along with, you'd probably datea Darlene. Like, yes, 480 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: I think the eck is a lot of time. 481 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 4: Just excuse to not be vulnerable to you know, to 482 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 4: say no. 483 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 2: It's easier to say no and not do the thing 484 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: than it is to go into it and go, well, 485 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: I saw, and then you'd blame yourself once it didn't 486 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: work out. You go, you should have known they drink 487 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: macha through a straw, you know, like it's easier to 488 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: do that you beat yourself up. I think that might 489 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: be kind of the nature of like we don't We're 490 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 2: the Google generation. This is what we do. We look 491 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: up the place before we go. We don't walk somewhere 492 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 2: and we unless we Google map even though we've walked there. 493 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: Like well, it's kind of like. 494 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 3: It seems like the issue is almost like there's too 495 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 3: many options right where you have dating two hundred years ago, 496 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 3: you're in an arranged marriage. Probably you're just set up 497 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 3: and like that doesn't seem great, right, But now it's 498 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 3: like if you live in a city like New York City, 499 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 3: there's a million people, maybe then you probably are in 500 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 3: the that you could possibly date, And so you're like, well, 501 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 3: I don't because there's a million people here and there's 502 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 3: an app that shows me people constantly. Why would I 503 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 3: settle for someone who drinks macho lattes through a straw 504 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 3: when there's just another great person out there that I 505 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 3: could could have. And so I think it'd be great 506 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 3: to almost go back to that happy medium where maybe 507 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 3: you had ten choices, not none, not one. 508 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I mean you're speaking about something in 509 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: psychology which is known as the paradox of choice, right, 510 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: this idea that humans actually make worse choices the more 511 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: choices and options that they have, And this is one 512 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: of the biggest reasons why we are struggling in dating 513 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: or whether the products that we purchase or whatever it 514 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: may be. But yeah, I think the key is, and 515 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: I like what you're saying, the balance of having enough 516 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: of a pool to decide, but not unlimited. And I 517 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: guess what I'm getting at is someone drinking mucha through 518 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: a straw doesn't define what kind of partner they are, right, 519 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: whereas we like the joke that it does, right, maybe 520 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: that defines them in so many other ways. And so 521 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is actually look at what makes someone 522 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: a good partner and a credible compatible companion for life 523 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: as opposed to take. 524 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 2: The other side of that though. You know, the thing 525 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 2: that we find on this part cast the thing that 526 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,479 Speaker 2: as me as a single person deals with, when are 527 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: you okay to be turned off? You know, when do 528 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 2: you allow yourself to say this ick is more of 529 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: augh and this ick is funny starts and funny, but 530 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 2: it came from a place of this is not someone 531 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: I'd need to spend my time. So I'm a detective. 532 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 2: I'm looking for clues. When you're out there dating, you're 533 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 2: looking for clues too. I want to get to know 534 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 2: that person. So you know, the. 535 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 4: War's jewelry or you know, or you know where you know. 536 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: Sits crisscross apple sauce on a on a chair, you go. 537 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: That's generally, you know, a percentage. You know, I'm playing 538 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 2: the percentages now, you know, So it is you know, 539 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: it's easy for because I see this with the ick 540 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: stuff online, especially online, you see a lot of men 541 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 2: there were there. Their feedback to it is like this 542 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: is why you're single. And you know you gotta do 543 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 2: you know, you gotta look through these things and it's like, well, 544 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: this person's also allowed to go. 545 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 4: I'm playing the numbers game. Oh what turns me on 546 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 4: and off? 547 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: And if you do A you'll probably do just B 548 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 2: C D and it won't be a match for me. 549 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: Right, So that means I mean, if you're playing the 550 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: odds though, that means you're gonna have to get through 551 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people. 552 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 4: Right, that's that's you need odds to play. Yeah, exact numbers. 553 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 3: Well, how how long have you been with your wife? 554 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: We've been together now for it will be eleven years 555 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: this year, eleven years married for. 556 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: Eight this year, and she's basically like your only relationship right. 557 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: In my in terms of currently before Like for you, 558 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: did you have. 559 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 4: Grow Oh yeah I did? Yeah, yeah, oh yeah yeah. 560 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: I dated a ton before I became a monk, and 561 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: then I was a monk, and then since I've left 562 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: the monastery, my wife's the only person that I've chosen. 563 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: What's your what's your go to first date? When you 564 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: were dating before? Yeah, back in the day, I mean 565 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: I was dating in my team. So it's like whatever 566 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,479 Speaker 1: you could afford, right, Like, maybe you're you're going like 567 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: ice cream, bowling cinema, I mean going to the movies. 568 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: Going to the movies was probably the most common date. 569 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 3: Which is a pretty I mean you say this on 570 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 3: you know in your book that you know, watching a 571 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 3: movie together, watching. 572 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 4: That pom rough like you hate that? 573 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 2: Right? 574 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? 575 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 3: I was. 576 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: I was, Yeah, I was talking about this in an interview, 577 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: and I think there's there's different responses to it, some funny, 578 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: some some some mad at me. But it was this 579 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: idea of I was talking about to so many couples recently, 580 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: and they were just feeling like they don't feel connected, 581 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: they don't feel like they're deepening their intimacy, they don't 582 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: feel like their relationship is growing. And I was just 583 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: saying that, hey, if that's how you feel, then if 584 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: the number one activity you do is watch a show together, 585 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: but that show is not leading to an interaction, a connection, 586 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: a sharing of ideas or thoughts or feelings or whatever 587 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: it may be, then maybe it's because you're not doing 588 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: other things together. And what I was extending out to 589 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 1: people was this idea that I've found even in friendships, right, 590 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: this applies to all relationships. They get deeper and better 591 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: and more intimate and more connected when you're doing other 592 00:26:55,080 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: activities together so I encouraged obviously experiences, experiments, getting educated together, 593 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: learning about something together. When you're growing together, you feel 594 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: like you're moving in the same direction, even if you're 595 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: both doing your own entrepreneurial venture where you come back 596 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: and share your notes. There's so much more we can 597 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: get from love and relationships that I think we miss 598 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: out on and I empathize with it. 599 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 2: Do you feel like you and your wife because you 600 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 2: guys are you're in the same industry. You guys work together, 601 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: you know. 602 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't work together like professionally a party, yeah. 603 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 3: But if you look at a great gap ad together. 604 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 4: Oh yes, the project, yeah we did that together. 605 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 3: But it came out great. 606 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: If you look at your social media, like, you guys 607 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: are in the same yes, now we are your peers, 608 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: you're like colleagues, you know. So is that helpful the relationship? 609 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 4: Do you ever get like is there jealousy in that? 610 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 2: Like? 611 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 4: Where how do you work? 612 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 2: Because working together is great because you're communicating, you have 613 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: something in common. I would imagine what's the negative negative 614 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: part of that? 615 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: So the number one thing I hear when someone comes 616 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: up to me is hey, Jay, I love your wife. Right, 617 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: People literally come up to me and go, yeah, you're 618 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: all right, but your wife is amazing, and I'm like, 619 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: I know, I know, like And that's kind of how 620 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: our life has gone where I make friends with people 621 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: because I generally am a bit more extroverted, and I'll 622 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: go make relationships, I'll introduce them to my wife and 623 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: then I'll never see that friend ever again. And they've 624 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: become best friends with my wife. So I'm used to that. 625 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 4: I think you ever hold on I'm staying her up. 626 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 2: But do you ever have to kind of like, look, 627 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 2: I have sometimes there's a thing when you put out 628 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff into the world, yes, you know 629 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 2: your content, you can't people come up to you and 630 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 2: they say things to you that feel pointed, like you're okay, 631 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: but I love your wife, and that does feel It 632 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 2: feels like they're trying to nag you a little bit. 633 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: I can understand. 634 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 4: I feel like they're trying to humble me. 635 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 2: That's what they absolutely and I would feel just get 636 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: triggered by that, though, no triggering. 637 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 4: I love it. I love my wife she is. 638 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: But is that how you deal with it? Do you go, well, 639 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: this is a compliment on me because look at me 640 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: being with this wonderful person that they love. Do you 641 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 2: have to do that? Ever? Like in my head, I'll 642 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: let people come up to me and they'll go, oh, man, 643 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: I was they were just at my show? 644 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 645 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: I love the charcoutery stuff you do. I'm like, and now, 646 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 2: and then I get mad at the other stuff I 647 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: put out. 648 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 3: What about what you saw? 649 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: That is the exact point of mindfulness training, Like this 650 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 1: is exactly this meditate Yeah no, but this is exactly. 651 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 2: This is why. 652 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: This is why when we're having this conversation, it's it's 653 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: so alien to people. And it's not because I was 654 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: born without anger or hatred or any of these things. 655 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: The point is that is the point of mindfulness that 656 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: when I'm hearing that, my circuit board internally is going, 657 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: I love my wife. I love that someone else loves 658 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: my wife. This is awesome, right, Like it's brilliant, And 659 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: I found that. I think if I wasn't secure in 660 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: who I am and what I'm doing, I think that 661 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: would trigger me, right, And I think that's what's really interesting. 662 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this movie. I think 663 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: it was on Netflix this year called fair Play. 664 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 4: Yes, a lot of people haven't seen it. Correct. Yeah, 665 00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 4: So it's. 666 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: Based on a couple. It's a it's a movie. This 667 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: couple are madly in love. He's just proposed, they're about 668 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: to get married, but they both get put up for 669 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: the same promotion at work and so now they yeah 670 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: at a headshant, so they're now competing in an ultra 671 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: competitive environment for the same job. I'm not going to 672 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: tell you anymore if you haven't seen it, so I'm 673 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: laying it up so that you watch the movie. But 674 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: the movie does a great job of showing like gender roles, 675 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: people feeling emasculated, like the challenges that come in the 676 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: bedroom because of the intimacy, you know, everything else that 677 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: goes on, and so I recommend watching the movie. But 678 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: I think a lot of that comes from us feeling irrelevant, insignificant, 679 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: or unfocused on who we are. And I think when 680 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: you feel a sense of calm and confidence about what 681 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: you are and what you don't. So I do agree 682 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: that if I didn't know what I was doing for 683 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: work and I didn't know who I was, then I 684 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: think that kind of stuff would really trigger me. And 685 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: so I've constantly tried to work on who I am 686 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: and who I want to be right. 687 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 3: I think all triggers, like you said, are kind of 688 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 3: come from a place of insecurity. But I mean I 689 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 3: feel like there's there's a sense of being secure and 690 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 3: who you are, but there's certain I mean everyone has 691 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 3: some I do you have any insecurity? 692 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean, yeah, absolutely, I mean to 693 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: be totally vulnerable. I think I get you know, insecure. Okay, 694 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: there's a few things I'll defth straight into it. One 695 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: of it is I think that some people sometimes when 696 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: I meet people, again, this is the one percent of 697 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: the ninety nine, right, we have to say that. 698 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 4: We have to say that. 699 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: It is so important to. 700 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 3: Say everyone knows that people mostly love us. 701 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 4: Right, yeah, yeah, exactly. 702 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: But like sometimes I'm insecure that when I'm around someone 703 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: that they're wanting me to say something wise all the time. 704 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: So I have an insecurity of like God, if I 705 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 1: don't say something profound and wise, and in the past, 706 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: I would really overthink that. 707 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 4: I'm sure you have this for being funny, right, Like 708 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 4: you have to be funny. 709 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: So if I'm not wise in a room and you're 710 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: not funny in a room, then we've lost the room, 711 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: right Like that feeling, So I used to carry this around. 712 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 2: Has turned around now because I so, yeah, you haven't 713 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: been very funny. I just go, well, good lot, and 714 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 2: then I move on from the person. I go, we 715 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 2: are not do you have? Do you have? Now? Do 716 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 2: you change? 717 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 4: I have? So I had that. I used to carry 718 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 4: it that around really heavily, and I. 719 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: Used to feel such pressure. Yeah, and I would feel stressed. 720 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,479 Speaker 1: And then I found I wasn't even present. And then 721 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: I found I'm not even listening because now I'm trying 722 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: to say the right thing. And I let go of that, 723 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: and now I just act like myself. So if I'm tired, 724 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: I'll be tired. If I'm exhausted, I'll be exhausted. If 725 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm buzzing, I'll be buzzing. If I'm trying to be funny, 726 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm being in advantest, I'm just gonna 727 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: be because I'm just so much more comfortable with my 728 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: own skin now. 729 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 2: I'll say for someone to like, if you're like, hey, 730 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: what do you do and you're like, well, I do mindfulness, 731 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: I'm you know, I like to you know I was 732 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: a monk, and they go, well, I haven't had my 733 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: life changed yet. Like for someone to react like that 734 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: is such a piece of guard. 735 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: But sometimes people are looking for it too, right, And 736 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: I think, so that's that's one thing. And then I 737 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: also get in insecurity or so I've definitely had that 738 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: and I carried that for a long time. I think 739 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: that sometimes you have an insecurity of people feeling like 740 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: you think you're important. So it's kind of like you'reking 741 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: room and people assume that you think you're important or 742 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: that you've brought into your own hype, right, and so 743 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: now you're trying to kind of make sure that prove 744 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: them wrong and make sure that everyone realizes that. 745 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 4: No, no, no, we're cool. 746 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 2: You. 747 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're all on the same page that we're cool. 748 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 2: You're so lucky you're not single, because this is what 749 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 2: women do to you. And I'm saying women do this 750 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 2: to you. Just this is I'm just saying, I know this. 751 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: Please tell us a single guy. 752 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 3: I think men do that too. If I used to 753 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,479 Speaker 3: get you know, when I was single, So are you funny? 754 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 3: And I'd be like, well, it depends who you ask. 755 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: Right, But that's a great answer because you're not trying 756 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: to appeal. 757 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 4: And that's what I found. 758 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: You're not trying to appease the person, and you're also 759 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: not being rude, and it's just an honest answer and 760 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: you just being real, like that's a very normal response always. 761 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 3: I think disarm conversations a great answer. 762 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: And you're right, it is no matter the gender. If 763 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 2: you're single, this is what you deal with as a 764 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 2: single because you're dealing with variables. You have people that 765 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 2: are coming in and trying to make a move on you, 766 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: or be flirty or be funny and show who they 767 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 2: are right away. So it turns into, oh, you're not 768 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 2: that great, and it's like that's not a you didn't 769 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 2: have to say that. You didn't have to say I 770 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 2: was great. I'm just here to meet you, you know. 771 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 3: And that's the thing with dating. I think that you 772 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 3: do the best when you're looking for the positive, as 773 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 3: opposed to when you're trying you're trying to almost you 774 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 3: come in defensive, or you come in trying to, you know, 775 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 3: make the person feel like you're good enough for them. 776 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 3: And that's why people do things like that. 777 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: Well, I think so often and so often in the 778 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: dating scene, we're trying so hard to make someone like 779 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: us without even knowing whether we like them, right, So 780 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: we go into him like like me, like me, like me, 781 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: like me, and then they like us. I'm like, wait 782 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: a minute, do I even know who this person is? Right? 783 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 2: And you can't know that when you're twenty two, Like 784 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 2: that's just the thing, Like that is aging too, Like 785 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 2: so much of this, yes, isn't genius. It's growing up 786 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 2: and going and being self reflective. Like it takes time, 787 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 2: because I know exactly. You know. When I was twenty 788 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 2: five starting comedy, I remember this guy sat next to 789 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 2: me in a bar all your and I said, I'm 790 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 2: a comedian. 791 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 4: It was like the first time I ever said. 792 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 2: He's like, tell me a joke, and I'm like and 793 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 2: I say, like note cards and I'm like, who, there's 794 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 2: this fun He's like, well, you're gonna have to work 795 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 2: on that. I'm like, I guess you got me Like 796 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 2: like I don't know, Yeah, I know. 797 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 4: The feeling, but I think that's day I would never 798 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 4: do that. 799 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that feeling of people trying to get you. 800 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: I carry that insecurity. I feel like sometimes I'm in 801 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: a room and I'm like, all right, someone's just trying 802 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: to get me. And that's an uncomfortable anxiety and nervousness 803 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: to carry around. And I was speaking to you know, 804 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: people who are far more you know, successful and everything 805 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: else than I am, and they were saying to me, 806 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 1: like just the amount of anxiety they carry, because every 807 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: word they say is going to be analyzed, over, analyzed, printed, scripted, 808 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: put out there for the world, you know, right, And 809 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: so you start and that's for people I'm talking about, 810 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: people who are you know who every word that they 811 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: say is the fun pa consitions. 812 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, kench Jenner says one thing off script that's 813 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 2: written down. 814 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's apologizing it for a month. 815 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 4: Right. 816 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 2: People don't forget like you look at Kim. People never 817 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 2: work anymore. 818 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you carry a little you carry it. You 819 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: start carrying a tiny bit of that, you know, you 820 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: start worrying. And one of the things I was thinking 821 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: about that you raised, which isn't about dating, but maybe 822 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: it comes into that, was, you know, there was there 823 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: was a time when when things were really starting to 824 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: take off. And I've generally been someone who, despite challenges, 825 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: despite things that are going wrong, I've always tried to 826 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: focus on the wins and amplify the greatness and the 827 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: goodness because I believe that attracts more abundance, and so 828 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: I've generally been that way, and I've always been like that, 829 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: what do. 830 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 4: I mean in the sense of like, for example. 831 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 2: You'll have a win, You're like, celebrate the win for example? 832 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 4: I mean, is you know, is it hard doing what 833 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 4: we all do? Of course it is. 834 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: It's challenging, But I look at the things I'm grateful 835 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: for far more than I'll focus on the things that 836 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: are challenging, because I think that's healthier way to live, 837 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: or it's a way I like to live. And at 838 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: one point I realized when I was doing that, I 839 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 1: saw that a few of the people I was hanging 840 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: around with. I could tell that me sharing the growth 841 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: that I was having was rubbing them the wrong way, 842 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: and so whenever I was with them, I would now 843 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: try and be more negative, to be more relatable. And 844 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: it was an insecurity that I had because I was like, well, 845 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: I need them to feel comfortable around me, so I'm 846 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: going to start saying things that are going wrong so 847 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: that they do realize my life is hard and bad 848 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,240 Speaker 1: and all the rest of it. And I started really 849 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: just getting into my own negativity cycle because now I'd 850 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,720 Speaker 1: opened the door that I didn't used to open before. 851 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 4: Well, I think a lot of single people can relate 852 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 4: to that way. 853 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 2: It's like you get a dating win. Yeah, go back 854 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 2: to your other single friends and they're not as happy 855 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 2: about it, you know, as you all. 856 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 3: It's like sort of a silent race, right yeah. 857 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's so hard because you love that person. 858 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: You don't want to agitate someone, you don't want to 859 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: trigger someone. At the same time, you want to share 860 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: this thing that you're going through and you're experiencing not 861 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: in an egotistic way, but in a sharing of the 862 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 1: heart way. And I think it's it's tough. So anyway 863 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm laying out all my insecurities to you. 864 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 4: No, No, I have tons. 865 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 2: It's hard, I would assume because people come to you 866 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 2: for answers and they and you give them answers that 867 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 2: are very concrete and said very well and something that 868 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 2: they can kind of go repeat to themselves in those 869 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,720 Speaker 2: times of their own insecurities. 870 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 4: Are the things that you Where do you look to where? 871 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 2: What's your Do you have a person that you look 872 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 2: What podcasts are you listening to? 873 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: I definitely, I definitely feel like I grew up on 874 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: a lot of opro, which is it's is huge and 875 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: very inspiring, so so a big fan. But I think 876 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 1: for me, there's there's two things I look to. One 877 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,919 Speaker 1: thing is I just love studying humans, Like I love 878 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: observing people, people online, people's lives. I read a ton 879 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: of biographies, I watch biopics. I love like if you 880 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: want to the David Beckham documentary that just came out 881 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: on Netflix, I haven't recommend it, and it's like I 882 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,280 Speaker 1: grew up following him and so I've I knew everything 883 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: that was in the documentary, but it was just this 884 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: feeling of like, I love studying a human's journey and 885 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: how you know, at one point he was completely villainized 886 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: in the country and people hated him because he got 887 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: sent off in a massive World Cup game. All the 888 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: way through to he's one of the most adored icons 889 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: of all time and so you get to see that. 890 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: So I feel a lot of my learning comes from studying, 891 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: researching and watching patterns and people and human behavior. That's 892 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: kind of what I get. 893 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 2: A watching people. Yeah, who on the plane do you 894 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 2: hate the most? 895 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 4: Who on the plane do I hate them? 896 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 2: You travel? Travel, and I know, yeah, you're well, it's. 897 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 3: Your biggest traveling pet peeve. 898 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm travel time is my sacred time to 899 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: be alone and and. 900 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 2: Not believe in that it is a great time to 901 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,760 Speaker 2: switch a cry, to switch off and to like really 902 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 2: say I'll eat and drink anything I want. Yes, game over. 903 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 2: I'm with you. 904 00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 3: Because you said like there's a lot of pressure to 905 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 3: feel all like humble. There's a lot of pressure to 906 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 3: feel I'm sure it'll like be the most zen friend. 907 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 4: No, I'm just looking over. 908 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 3: Do you ever have to be like someone like this 909 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 3: is actually my sa. 910 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: It's more like while I'm catching up and selling Sunset 911 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,720 Speaker 1: and the buzz next to me going, does Jay Shady 912 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: wat selling Sunset? You know, it's that kind of feeling 913 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: of like, oh god, I'm gonna get judged from what 914 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm watching now, you know. 915 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 4: It's it's that kind of feeling like please don't judge me. 916 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 2: So well, this is so great. We're happy you're you're 917 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 2: a foss front of the show. Uh Fox, Yeah, foss 918 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 2: foss that sounds better. Foughts are I always friend of 919 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 2: the pod? Fox put something like that, we're right to edit. Yeah, no, listen, 920 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 2: I do. I will say being in the room with you. 921 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 2: You do have this filling energy to you. Do people 922 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 2: say that to you a lot. 923 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 4: I don't know. It's like a star power. Start yeah, 924 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 4: start factor, breath of fresh air. 925 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:55,760 Speaker 2: I love it. Everyone. 926 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 4: Go listen to Jay's podcast, Go follow Jay. 927 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,800 Speaker 2: If you don't, alright, read the book. Read the book. 928 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 2: It's all there. He's fantastic. I'm Jared Freed. We're here 929 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 2: every Wednesday and Sunday with solving your Dating Needs. And 930 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 2: we did it again. 931 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 3: We did it again. We'll be back on Wednesday. 932 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 4: Bye. 933 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: If you love this episode, you will also love my 934 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: interview with Kendall Jenna on setting boundaries to increase happiness 935 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 1: and healing. 936 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 4: You're in a child. 937 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,919 Speaker 1: You could be reading something that someone is saying about 938 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: you and being like, that is so unfair because that's 939 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: not who I am and that really gets to me sometimes. 940 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 2: But then looking at myself in the mirror and being like, 941 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 2: but I know who I am. 942 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 3: Why does anything else matter