1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Was it a bad day or was it a bad 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: five minutes that you milked all day? Give it a 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: minute or two five minutes, and then let's go. We're overcoming, 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: We're talking positively. It's time to move forward. Next play mentality. 5 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 2: What is going on? Everyone? Emily A body here. 6 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 3: You are listening to episode two forty six in season 7 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 3: thirteen of Hurdle, a wellness focus podcast where I connect 8 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: with everyone from your favorite athletes to top experts and 9 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: industry CEOs about their highest highs, toughest moments, and everything 10 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: in between. We all go through hurdles in life, and 11 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: my goal through these discussions is to empower you to 12 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: better navigate yours and move with intention so that you 13 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: can stride towards your own big potential and of course 14 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 3: have some. 15 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: Fun along the way. 16 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: Season thirteen like what, oh my god, it feels so 17 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: awesome and crazy and so many emotions saying that, but 18 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: I am mostly out of all of them, elated to 19 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 3: be here behind the mic, back with the hurdlers, bringing 20 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: you some good content. I'm kicking things off this season 21 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: with the One, the Only, Jenna Bandy. She's a multi 22 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 3: sport athlete, a content creator, a former basketball player and 23 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: honestly an. 24 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 2: All around jem of a human. 25 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: I'm so excited to start this season off with her 26 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: talking about what it was like to make a major 27 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: pivot once envisioning herself playing in the WNBA, now a 28 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: content creator, as I said with millions of followers across YouTube, TikTok, 29 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: and Instagram. For today's episode, Jenna talks to me about 30 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 3: how it felt for her to make a drastic change 31 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: to dive in wholeheartedly to content creation during the pandemic, 32 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: leaving her job as a basketball coach and shaking the 33 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 3: stigmas she felt surrounded the occupation of creating content to 34 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 3: do what she loves, to pursue her passion and in 35 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 3: the process empower so many women everywhere to be fearless 36 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: and as she says, the mission of her brand game 37 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: change her heer to challenge the norm and change the game. 38 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: Jenna talks candidly about some of the double standards that 39 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: exist when watching and critiquing male versus female athletes. Plus, 40 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: Jenna also offers up some really helpful advice for anyone 41 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 3: who may be stuck in that negative self talk loop. 42 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 3: Moving on from difficult moments and reaching out toward your 43 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: big potential again. Loved kicking off season thirteen with this 44 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: conversation with Jenna. A huge thank you to her for 45 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: her time, and of course thank you to all of 46 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: you the hurdlers for making it all possible, for being 47 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 3: my wife, for sharing the show with your friends and 48 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: your family, and of course on social media for reviewing 49 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 3: the show in Apple Podcasts. Of course, if you haven't 50 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: done so yet, head on over there, Spotify, wherever you listen. 51 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: Your reviews make all the difference. 52 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: Last, but not least, make sure you're following along on 53 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: social over at Hurdle podcast and I am over at 54 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: Emily Abadi. And with that, let's get to it. Let's 55 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:48,839 Speaker 3: get to hurdling. 56 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: Today. 57 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: I am sitting down with Jenna Bandy. She's a multi 58 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: sport content creator former basketball player. 59 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: How you doing today, I'm doing great. 60 00:03:58,960 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. 61 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: Of course, I'm amped to have you, you know, I'm 62 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: amped to have you for a myriad of reasons. But 63 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: you are on a mission to empower females to be fearless, 64 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: challenge the norm, and change the game. That's like a 65 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: big statement, Jenna. 66 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean and I mean it. You know, it's 67 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: a big statement for a reason. I you know, I 68 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: have a brand called game Changer, and it's her at 69 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: the end, emphasis of the female. And yeah, I just 70 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: feel a big part of my success is because I 71 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: have been fearless and I've been authentic, and I'm not 72 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: afraid to challenge the norm and change the game. 73 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 2: Not afraid to challenge the norm and change the game. 74 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 3: And the game these days looks a lot different than 75 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: maybe you envisioned like it would look, god ten fifteen 76 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: years ago, right. 77 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: Correct, Yes, back when I was a little kid, you know, 78 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: I've dreamed of being in the WNBA, and since then 79 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: life has been life in you know, I do something 80 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: now that is very unconventional, but if you think about it, 81 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: I am technically a professional athlete now. So I dreamed 82 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: of being a WNBA player, a professional athlete, but now 83 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: in an unconventional way, I am just that. So, you know, 84 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: I played. I played high school softball and basketball. I 85 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: was really good at both, but I loved basketball more. 86 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: I ended up tearing my ACL before my senior year 87 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: in high school, so like that was just very discouraging 88 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: and I didn't know what was going to happen for me. 89 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: I ended up on my d one said cea later, 90 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: and I ended up going to Division two. My third 91 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: year in college, I ended up tearing my other aco. 92 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: So when you talk about hurdles, you know, those two 93 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: things were very challenging for me. But I knew that 94 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: if I could overcome this, I can overcome anything mentally, 95 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: not only just physically, but mentally. And then I thought 96 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to do the whole sideline sports reporting thing 97 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: because I didn't think maybe physically my body could endure 98 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: playing overseas or even the WNBA. So I just kind 99 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: of changed my pathway. And during the whole interview process 100 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: of sideline sports reporting and getting in that industry, I 101 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: was approached with coaching from a guy that I knew 102 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: from twenty four Fitness. We played basketball the time in 103 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: my hometown, and he's like, hey, I just took over 104 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: the girls program at a local high school and I 105 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: need to fill my staff. And I'm like, I've never 106 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: coached before, but I tried it, fell in love with it, 107 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: and I thought the rest of my life that's what 108 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: I would be. A teacher and a high school coach. 109 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: I ended up getting my own varsity head coaching job, 110 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: and during that time, I had a little bit of 111 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: a following, so I had one foot in with the 112 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: influencer thing, but I didn't really like the term and 113 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: the stigma that came with being an influencer. So if 114 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: anyone asked me, what do I do? So, I'm a coach, 115 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm a first ye head coach. But then it wasn't 116 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: until the pandemic hit that I had to get out 117 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: of my teaching credential program. I had to stop coaching, 118 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: and I still had to pay the bills, you know. 119 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: So I remember the day that I told mom and Dad, Hey, 120 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be a teacher or a coach. 121 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to be a YouTuber. I'm gonna be a 122 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: content creator. And that was very weird and hard for 123 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: them to hear, and they didn't understand it, you know. 124 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: But I kind of had a bet on myself and 125 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: I was able to see other people be successful in 126 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: this world and it gave me the hope and the 127 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: confidence that I could do this as well. So that's 128 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: really it wasn't until the pandemic really twenty twenty that 129 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: I put both my feet into this realm of content creation. 130 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean there's so much to unpack here, 131 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: first and foremost. Having gone through so many hurdles up 132 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 3: until this point, do you remember where your mindset was 133 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 3: at the first hurdle, that first ACL tair in high school? 134 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: How did that feel for you? 135 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: I was sixteen years old, and I was very discouraged. 136 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I was doing everything I thought was right. 137 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: You know, I was preparing, I was playing pick up 138 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: with guys. I was I was pushing the envelope, you know. 139 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: But I think what I did was I overdid it 140 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: a little bit, and I was I was playing pick 141 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: up against guys at Pepperdine University, and it was just 142 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: kind of a little freak accident. I just landed wrong 143 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: and it didn't really hurt that bad. I didn't really 144 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: think twice of it. I was like, oh, a little tweak, 145 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: but uh sure enough, you know, I got it checked 146 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: and there it goes. I tore my ACL and my 147 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: dream of going D one. Everyone said see you later, 148 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: you know, like it's a liability. You can't give a 149 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: scholarship to someone who has a torn ACL. I didn't 150 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: play my senior year, and I remember being just like 151 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: sitting around watching all the girls play the season that 152 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: I was going to play and it was. It was hard, 153 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: and as a sixteen year old, I didn't understand. I 154 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: was you know, I thought it was unfair why me? 155 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: But like physically it kind of made sense because I 156 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: was just a little twig. I wasn't doing any type 157 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: of white weightlifting or preventative you know, pliometrics or anything 158 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: like that. So it physically it made sense why I 159 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: tore my ACL, you know it did. But mentally, and 160 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: like universally, it's like, why is this happen to me? 161 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: Right now? 162 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, And that's so understandable. 163 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: Right You're in this place where you're giving your absolute 164 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 3: all to something and then your body just breaks, and 165 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 3: you're of this mindset like this. 166 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: Isn't suppost happened to me exactly? Oh man? 167 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 3: So you do go on though to play for Kelsey 168 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 3: and then eventually tear the other one. So where's the 169 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: head at the second ACL tear? 170 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: So that one was probably the most discouraging because I felt, 171 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: after tearing my first one, Okay, well, I gotta build 172 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: up my muscle. I gotta I gotta really pay attention 173 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: to my body. And I felt the most strong I've 174 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: ever been when I tore my second one, and uh 175 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: and that, like I said, that was more mentally frustrating 176 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: for me. I felt like it was the time where 177 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: I finally started to really get a lot more playing 178 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: time that I felt I deserve, and I was really 179 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: getting in a great rhythm and it was in a 180 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: game and I just I planted my foot to pass 181 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: and my leg just gave out, and that one it 182 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: hurt tremendously, screaming, crying, and I knew it. I knew, 183 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: I knew I tore it, and it was it was 184 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: the opposite one. So now I had both torn aco. 185 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: You know, like people used to call me Jenna Badney 186 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: changed the N and the D, which is actually pretty funny. 187 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, like shut up, but that's funny. 188 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: I have to say, you know. 189 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, oh my god, my heart for you. 190 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 3: And it's interesting that you said I just wanted to 191 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 3: ble click on this. I was finally starting to get 192 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: more playing time than I deserved. 193 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 2: Why did you feel that way? 194 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: Because so I went. I went to cal State Monterey 195 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: Bay my freshman year. I was just fresh off my 196 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: knee surgery. You know, I was playing with the Big 197 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: Race and I was inconsistent. I'd have nights where my 198 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: knee felt good, and then I had nights where my 199 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: knee felt and it just felt hell heavy. And the 200 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: confidence it was in and out. I didn't feel back 201 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: to who I was. Not that I ever felt that 202 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: I'd be back to the same person, but like I 203 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: just it was in and out. My games were back 204 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: to back Friday Saturday night, so Fridays thenight feel good. 205 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: Saturday's A didn't Sophomore a year, there was someone else 206 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: in my position, so I kind of had to play 207 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: outside of my position just to get playing time. Junior year, 208 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: back into my shooting guard position, I was. I was 209 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: the six man off the bench, and I was really 210 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: like showing what I can do. Didn't have a sleeve, 211 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: didn't have any type of brace on. Just felt fully 212 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: equipped mentally, physically, everything, and then boom. 213 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: When it comes to garnering confidence in the moments where 214 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 3: you really want to show up but feel like that 215 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: inner voice is wavering a little bit, what advice would 216 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: you offer to other women who can find themselves in 217 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: a similar situation. 218 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you have to put things in perspective, 219 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, you have to reflect and really think about 220 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: this could be a lot worse. I could be I 221 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: couldn't be out of school, I could be somewhere else, 222 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: not less fortunate, you know. So of course, like it's 223 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: debilitating in a way, But what you have to do 224 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: is you have to continue to push through. And instead 225 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: of thinking, oh, I have to make up for all 226 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: this lost time, you have to chop it down into 227 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: what is the next right thing for me? So I 228 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: really broke it down into oh, I have six months 229 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: of recovery at least. Instead of doing that, I broke 230 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: it down into, okay, today, what is the next right 231 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: thing that I could do? What's the next right choice? 232 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: So just little by little making those choices, those right choices, 233 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: and maybe they're different for you than they are for me, 234 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: But over time those habits, it turns into confidence. Like 235 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: seeing the ball go through the net feeds that confident. 236 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: So I would say, if you're in that mindset of 237 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: oh what this is unfair? Why is this happening to me? 238 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: How do I make up for all this lost time? 239 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 1: I don't know where to go. Just focus on making 240 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: the next right choice, doing the next right thing for you, 241 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you it feeds that confident. 242 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 3: It feeds the confidence. All the little steps end up 243 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: still making you, giving you that forward progress. Having such 244 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 3: a massive following both across TikTok and YouTube. You talked 245 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 3: about really making this pivot for yourself about three years ago, 246 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: and that is both a little bit of time and 247 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 3: a lot of time. Talk to me about how it 248 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 3: feels now with the progress that you've made over the 249 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 3: past three years in this career that you've chosen. 250 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I mean, like I said, when influencer was 251 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: being thrown around, I feel the stigma behind it. I 252 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: didn't like it. I didn't take pride in it. So 253 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: I had my foot in it and then I had 254 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: my other foot out of it. I was a teacher 255 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: and a coach, and I thought that was something that 256 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: I could take pride in and really stand firmly on. 257 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: So the term influencer, I didn't like it. However, I 258 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: did do some content. I had a little bit of 259 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: a following. I would be a substitute teacher and these 260 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: kids would be like Jenna Bandy twenty one. I'm like, no, 261 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: it's miss Bandy or it's coach, you know what I mean. 262 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: So it was a little bit weird and I think 263 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: what it was for me was I started to surround 264 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: myself with other content creators who've been doing this a 265 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: lot longer than me. And this guy I pay homage 266 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: to him, Josh Horton. He had seventeen Guinness World records 267 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: when I met him, and he just moved into my 268 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: hometown in Thousand Oaks and we had a mutual friend 269 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: and he was like, hey, I would love to have 270 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: you on my channel. We do a lot of basketball stuff, 271 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: trick shots, sporting challenges like yeah, sure I will. And 272 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun and soon you see 273 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: his followers is subscribe. I start talking about when Jenna 274 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: gonna get a channel. We love Jenna, bring Jenna back 275 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: Gone and he's like, Jennah, you really need to do this. 276 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: People love you. You have a thing, you have it 277 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: and I was like God influencer YouTuber kind of lame 278 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: right and shortly after that like he we all got 279 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: Guinness World records. He saw I made a throw. I 280 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: made a football throw into the basket and we were 281 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: doing a video for his channel and he was like, 282 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: you know what, Jenna, that might be a gninnifoild record 283 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: because already has it in his mind. To think that way, 284 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: like this could be ananifold record. Let's look it up. 285 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: No one has set this Gennithral record for farthest football 286 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: throw into a target by a female. So he had 287 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: the plug with the Guinness World Record adjudicators, the officiators, 288 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: and we all rented out some space a certain day 289 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: and time, and we all had Guinness World records to 290 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: set and we all achieved them. And when I got that, 291 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: I was like, that's a cool little flex. So I 292 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: put it on my Instagram, my YouTube and it was 293 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: really cool and I was like, okay, like this is 294 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: actually kind of something I could do. And then it 295 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: really wasn't until I got the opportunity in twenty twenty 296 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: one by House of Highlights to come on their showdown. 297 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: They were having a showdown challenge of Knockout Basketball and 298 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: it's you know, two balls, you're in a line. If 299 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: you make it before the person in front of you 300 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: makes it, they're out. You know, like that game, the 301 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: Playground game. And I played that all my life, and 302 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: they gave us the opportunity. I was the only girl, 303 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: and I was one of eight people, and I was 304 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: amongst other big YouTubers. I felt like why am I here. 305 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm an odd ball. I'm just a little 306 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: baby in this journey of being an influencer, right, but hey, 307 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make the most of it. And I freaking won. 308 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: I beat all the guys. I had all my lives left. 309 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: We all had three lives. You could bump the ball. Yeah, 310 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: I had the most like uh sperience basketball wise, but 311 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: it was from the free throw line and you had 312 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: three lives and you could bump the ball. And we 313 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: had ample amount of time to prepare, and I prepared 314 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: and I made eighteen out of twenty shots. So even 315 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: when I missed, you couldn't really bump my ball. I 316 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: got it quick and I put it back up and 317 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm and I won one hundred K. I'm getting tons 318 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: of followers that night. I'm like, this is for me. 319 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: I have to capitalize on this platform. I would be 320 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: stupid to do it. To not do it. I am young. Now, 321 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: I could always go back to coaching. I can always 322 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: go back to teaching. I'm doing I'm doubling down. 323 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I love like the excitement that builds in 324 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 3: your voice as you tell that story, and you like 325 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 3: reflect back on that because What a beautiful opportunity that 326 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 3: it was right, like this really fun moment for you 327 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 3: to be like, actually, I really like doing this, enabling you. 328 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: To then care a lot less about whatever the stigma 329 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: was that you associated with the an influencer being a 330 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 2: content creator. 331 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: Exactly because people thought it was kind of a gimmick. 332 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: If you hear a woman say I'm an influencer, the 333 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: stigma automatically is, oh, she's probably showing off her body, 334 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: kind of being like gimmicky or cheap, and like, that 335 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: wasn't me at all. I'm a tomboy like at heart. 336 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: I grew up with a big brother that never let 337 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: me win in anything, talking trash to me, you know. 338 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 1: So when I finally did win, I earned that. So 339 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: that has given me that competitive edge, and I've that's 340 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: just who I am. I'm very authentic to being a tomboy. 341 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: So I enjoyed this beating up on my guys. That 342 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: second nature to me. 343 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 3: Can we go back to the Guinness World Record for 344 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 3: a moment though, Yeah, for that they have to come right, yes. 345 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: And adjudicator, Yeah, we had we had the measuring tape. 346 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: It was ninety feet, so thirty yards had to throw 347 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: with an NFL sized and I couldn't bank it in. 348 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: It had to go straight in and take a mind 349 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: Like I could throw an NFL fall probably forty forty 350 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: five yards, maybe fifty, but it was ten feet up 351 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: in the air. So it's also like you really got 352 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: to get under it, you know. And let me tell you, 353 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: everyone else got their gonna throw out world records before me. 354 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I can't be the only one leaving 355 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: this gym without again as world record. Heck no, you 356 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, are we all gonna go 357 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: to dinner and celebrate, But I'm the only one that 358 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: really is being a little like upset. You know, I can't. 359 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: I can't be the one. I can't be the bad egg. 360 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 2: You can't do it. Well, you didn't have to worry 361 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: about that because you succeeded. Yeah, you know. 362 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 3: And again going back to just like your charisma and 363 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 3: your level of energy, I would imagine that you you 364 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 3: garner that excitement you're all in, but at the end 365 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: of the day, like you're putting out content for everyone 366 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 3: to see, So are you able to hold onto that 367 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 3: excitement when other people start having an opinion on what 368 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 3: it is that you're doing oh man. 369 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: I mean that's also something that comes apart of like 370 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: being so public and on social media, you know, comments, 371 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: you know, they say, don't read the comments. I read them. 372 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 2: I do not all of them, you know. 373 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: And there will be troths, there will be haters, and 374 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: you know the saying if if you have haters, that 375 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: means you're doing something right, you know. And kind of 376 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: all my life, I have had people jealous or or 377 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: just feel like they're slided and should be in the 378 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: position that I'm in or you know. And the thing 379 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: is is like you just carry on. You can't please everybody. 380 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes when you do well or not well, like there's 381 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: always going to be an opinion. So I think the 382 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: excitement is still alive inside me, and I try to 383 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: stay humble, but at the same time, I'll talk my talk, 384 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: you know, and I think it's deserving because that worked hard. 385 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: I prepared like I was in the gym. I went 386 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: to my old school that I coached that I still 387 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: had the keys there, you know, and I got on 388 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: the shooting gun, the shooting machine, and I was shooting 389 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: free throw after free throw, and I was even thinking 390 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: about things like, okay, well if someone's in front of me. 391 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm actually not going to be right at the free 392 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: throw line. I'm going to be about a foot and 393 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: a half two feet back. So I practiced not just 394 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: from the freeth line. I practiced from two feedback. I 395 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: practiced to the right of them. I practiced to the 396 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: left of them. I'm preparing for all things, and they're 397 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: calling me a try hard or oh she she doesn't 398 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: deserve to be there because she she's played college ball. 399 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: But I prepared. You could have prepared too. It's first 400 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: the free throw. 401 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 3: Line, yeah, you know, and that's and that's only like 402 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 3: one of these, let's say opportunities, right because you've had 403 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 3: so many now at this point, that was just kind 404 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 3: of one of the let's call it the first or 405 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 3: the catapulting moments. And yes, as you can haue you on, 406 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 3: you talked about, you know, preparing for that one in 407 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 3: terms of training. But what does quote unquote training look 408 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 3: like for you these days? 409 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: Yeah? So you know what, like right now, I don't 410 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: really go and play pick up basketball anymore like I 411 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: used to. If I'm gonna play basketball, I'm it's mainly 412 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: for an event or I'm turning that camera on and 413 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: it's it's very rarely ever where I'm just playing for 414 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: fun anymore, because I am doing stuff very often. I 415 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:35,239 Speaker 1: love playing pickleball. I so like that's in my my 416 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: weekly schedule, Like I'll go and I'll play pickleball. I 417 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: wait train, i will get shots up, I'll get content, 418 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: you know, for basketball. But hardly ever really playing fives 419 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: just for fun. I always got something going on football, 420 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: you know. And so I'm just a lot of it 421 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: has to do with recovery and and making I'm sure 422 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: that my body's feeling good because I'm thirty years old 423 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: now and I feel like, oh I got to keep 424 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: up with these young guns, you know, and and it's 425 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: a matter of staying young, staying healthy so I could 426 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: continue to do this. 427 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 3: I probably should have had that mindset at thirty. Honestly 428 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 3: now I'm like, I'm only I've only got a few 429 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 3: years on you. But like if I at thirty was like, man, 430 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 3: really gotta protect these bones, then maybe I wouldn't be 431 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 3: hobbling around like I already am. 432 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: The multivitamin, the you know, everything, you got it, the creams, everything. 433 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 3: It's all it's all in the rotation, don know, don't worry. 434 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 3: So okay, But going back though to kind of picking 435 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 3: this up during the pandemic, bring us into what Jenna 436 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 3: Bandy is doing like top and twenty twenty right before 437 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 3: everything shuts down? 438 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: Wow, what I was doing before that? I was trying 439 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: to really figure out what do I see the rest 440 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: of my life as? And I really felt passionate about 441 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: coaching and about teaching. I saw my summers off and 442 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 1: enjoying that with my with my future husband and family 443 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: and kids. You know, I saw that it was very 444 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: rewarding to teach and coach and to see that light 445 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: bulb turn on, you know, but it is a grind. 446 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: And I was. I was a head coach at twenty 447 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: four years old, and you know, I look younger than 448 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: I am, so and I felt like any disagreement to 449 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: playing time or just my coaching concepts, it was an 450 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: attack and a threat to my job security. It was 451 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: very hard in the in the areas I was coaching. 452 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: I was coaching at Calabasas High School, Calabasas right, A 453 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: lot of big name people there, you know, privileged, and 454 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: I was trying to teach them things like hard work 455 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: and accountability and hey, you might not be going to 456 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,239 Speaker 1: college to play basket but you are going to be 457 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: in college and living on your own, and mom and 458 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: dad won't be there to hold your hand all the time. 459 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: So accountability communication talking to someone an adult that's older 460 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: than you about something that you might have an issue 461 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: about that you can't always have mom and dad, So 462 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: it's very tough. I felt like I was being attacked 463 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: and I just for things that are so I had 464 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: such great intentions for and I'm like, you know what, 465 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: I might be too young right now and look a 466 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: certain way right now to be fully respected in this field. 467 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: So I was like, maybe I got to go to college. 468 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: So I was right before the pandemic, I was a 469 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: junior college assistant coach, and that really fit way better 470 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: for me. I didn't have to target on my back 471 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: as the head coach. I was an assistant. So I 472 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: was like, I kind of could be the kids homies, 473 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 1: you know, and I could I could be there and 474 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: and not have all the responsibility that I had as 475 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: a head coach managing scheduling all of it. You know, 476 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: it fit me better. But like I said, like the 477 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: pandemic hit, I had this opportunity and I doubled down 478 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: on it, and it kind of was like, Okay, well, 479 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: I'll do it. I didn't really think anything would come 480 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: of it. And six months later, six months later, they 481 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: invite me to another one, another showdown for one hundred k, 482 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: and I was one of twelve people. I was one 483 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: of two girls. So it was ten guys and two 484 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: girls and I was one of the girls. And it 485 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: was for one hundred k. Is for go karting, and 486 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: I took. I took a page out of my book 487 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: from the other one. I'm like, what did I do 488 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: to win this one? Well, I prepared, So what did 489 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: I do for this one? I went to the actual 490 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: go karting site. I went two weekends in a row. 491 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: My sister lived thirty minutes away. It was an anaheum. 492 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: My sister lived thirty minutes away. And I practiced Friday 493 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: Saturday Sunday. And then the week went by, and then 494 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: again I practiced Friday Saturday Sunday. I raced four races 495 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: a day, so four times six, I raced twenty four races. 496 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: I got to learn the go kart, I got to 497 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: learn the trap, and I asked questions. So then when 498 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: I go to the actual event, I had the fastest 499 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: lap time of everybody, so I got the first grid 500 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: spot and then I defended my line and I freaking 501 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: won again. I won another one hundred k against all 502 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: the guys, and here I go. I won two hundred 503 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: k and one year. I'm like, guys, can you give 504 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: me the check in the following year? Like taxes man? 505 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: But the thing is is that I prepared and they 506 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: still called me out as a tryhard or someone who 507 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: got a coach. Just give me the credit that I deserve. 508 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: I prepared. 509 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 3: When you started getting more and more of a following, 510 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 3: did you recognize that you have this opportunity, through this 511 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 3: new line of work to inspire the next generation of women. 512 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: Yes, and that's exactly like what the main thing has 513 00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: always been. You know, we're called influencers. However, what is 514 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: the direct influence. I might have an indirect influence. I'm impressive, 515 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,479 Speaker 1: I look cute. You know I can do some pretty 516 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: cool stuff, right, But what am I directly influencing? So 517 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: I always knew that I wanted to come out with 518 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: a brand, and a lot of influencers have their brand 519 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: named after themselves, and I've been told I should do 520 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: the bandy brand. It kind of seems like a no brainer, right, 521 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: But I was like, I don't want it to be 522 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: about me, Like, who's really gonna wear Dranda Bandy on there? 523 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I wanted to be something 524 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: that they can embody themselves. So that's why I came 525 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: up a game changer and it's her at the end, 526 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: like I said, because that's something that even dads can 527 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: wear because they have daughters that they support, or even 528 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: if you're not a dad but you're a man. I 529 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: actually was blown away by the support that I got 530 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: by by men because they're like, well, it's a female 531 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: empowerment brand. Of course I'm going to support it because 532 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if they would wear something that says 533 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: her on it. But I got a lot of sport 534 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, this is reinforcing everything. 535 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 2: Or you started game change her. 536 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 3: Did you feel like the influence that you had that 537 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 3: you were starting to cultivate was in line with what 538 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 3: you wanted to create. 539 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: Yes, Like I definitely had a lot of like girls 540 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: dming me, messaging me and telling telling me how much 541 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: like I inspire them, and and you know, but I 542 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: have the numbers show like I have an overwhelming amount 543 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: of a male following compared to female following. And I 544 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: think it also goes from like girls aren't always all 545 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,719 Speaker 1: that supportive of other girls. It's a certain thing you 546 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: know that goes on, Oh, am, I am I really 547 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: going to support her? Am I just jealous of her? 548 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: It's it's tough, but I will recall there was a 549 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,719 Speaker 1: moment I was in New York and I had a 550 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: whole activation with this brand, and and I was strangers 551 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: at west Worth in the cage. It was like one 552 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:08,239 Speaker 1: of the most like famous street ball courts, and I 553 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: was playing one on one. If you beat me, you 554 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: get to win tickets to Madison Square Garden for the 555 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: for the college games and for the Knicks versus Bucks game. 556 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: Like this is huge, right, And I know I look deceiving, 557 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: and that's part of it, Like I look like I 558 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: could be you know, I'm blonde hair, you know. But 559 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: then I'm bawling up right. So a bunch of guys 560 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: came to play me. And there was this little girl 561 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: that came and her name was Sophia, and she was 562 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: only five years old and she came up to me 563 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: with her dad, and I was like, Hi, what's your name. 564 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: She's like, I'm Sophia, and I was like, I'm Jen. 565 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: I know who you are. I watched all your videos 566 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: and she was the only girl that was there all 567 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: day watching me. Had her ball with her and I 568 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: let her play and we played. But since that day 569 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: she's been the wallpaper on the back of my phone. Still. 570 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: If I wasn't doing this voice, and I'm not, I'll 571 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: show you right now. But little Sophia, she made me 572 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: realize that I have a bigger voice than I thought 573 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: I did. And that was in that was in twenty 574 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: twenty one, I believe, and it really made me realize 575 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: I got to put on for the women, and I 576 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: got to have a brand that is for the women. 577 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: You know, not about me, but it's for the women. 578 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: It's for girls in sports and to show women you 579 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: could do both. 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Again, that's drink 632 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 3: lmnt dot com slash hurdle to get a free sample 633 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 3: pack of all their delicious flavors with your purchase today. 634 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 3: You know, I was scrolling through your page before we 635 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 3: got on this, and it never surprises me, but always 636 00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 3: annoys me. 637 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 2: And I go to like any video of. 638 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 3: A female athlete and there are, without a doubt, men 639 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 3: in the comments commenting about her appearance. 640 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 2: How do you navigate that with what you do? 641 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,479 Speaker 1: Yeah? You see, this is the thing social media. It's 642 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: still about entertainment. And I understand that, Like there's a 643 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: few things that you should achieve when you're on social media. 644 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: It should be inspiring, educational, or informative. And I know 645 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: that I have a certain look and I could just 646 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: be all about my look. I'm tasteful with it, you know, 647 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: and I'll show my assets, but I'm also showing my talent. 648 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: I am still a very feminine girl, and I do 649 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: look a certain way, but I am very talented and 650 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: sporty and athletic. 651 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 2: And athletic and athletic. 652 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, I love that story that you 653 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 3: shared also about Sofia, because I think that it brings 654 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 3: us back to your why right and the goal again 655 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 3: to inspire the next generation of athletes. When you reflect 656 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 3: on the women that motivated you to lace up from 657 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 3: the get go, who comes to mind? 658 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: Honestly, I just I have to say my mom. And 659 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily from an athletic standpoint, it's more of 660 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 1: just just her character and her just grit. I would say, 661 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, my mom is Italian from New Jersey, smoker, 662 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: has the rasp and her voice deep, like came to 663 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: every single one of my games. It's the same with 664 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: my dad. But you heard my mom and you knew 665 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 1: that was my mom because she's the only blonde, I'm 666 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: the only bond on the court, you know, like, and 667 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: she just I just say, she just inspired me to 668 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: be independent and strong and to be authentic to who 669 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 1: I am, you know, and just stand firm in what 670 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: you believe in and what you want to do. So 671 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: my mom and I would say my big brother, like 672 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: I said, he never let me win in anything. I 673 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 1: have a twin brother as well. But my twin brother, 674 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: my parents say that I saw all the athleticism in 675 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,479 Speaker 1: the womb because Jace is not coordinated whatsoever. My twin brother, 676 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: he's a Spanish teacher and just very yeah, very passionate 677 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 1: about that. But I I'm athletic and jet My big 678 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 1: bro just would you know, like I said, he beat 679 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: up on me and and he he was in the 680 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: MLB Major League Baseball player, professional baseball player for years 681 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: he retired now and you know, just the tunnel vision 682 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 1: and his his focus. I always looked up. 683 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 3: To, Oh my god, I can like hear your mom's 684 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 3: voice in the back of my head now, Like being 685 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 3: that standout on the side of the court. To be 686 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 3: able to reflect and be like, yo, my mom was it. 687 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 3: That's like such an awesome thing. 688 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I mean, of course, there's there's 689 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: women that I've looked up to, Like I definitely looked 690 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: up to Jenny Finch and softball, like I love, I 691 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: felt like I kind of looked like her, you know, 692 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: I had her glove and softball Lisa Leslie being the 693 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: first woman a dunk. And then also I have to 694 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: say the movie Love in basketball, like I remember particularly 695 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: the movie Monica, you know, she she made a basket 696 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: and kind of looked down at her defender like kind 697 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: of talking trash. And she was like, why do I 698 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: get in trouble for talking trash? Because because I'm a female. 699 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 1: But if a guy does it, he gets a pat 700 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: on the back, you know. And it's kind of very 701 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: relevant to today and what's going on today with Angel 702 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 1: Reifs and Caitlin Clark, and even for me being a creator. 703 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,280 Speaker 1: As a content creator, I was just in this league 704 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: two on two Creator League for fifty k, and I 705 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: was talking my talk we're entertainers as well. So I'm 706 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: shooting it and I'm going like this, and I'm I'm 707 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: saying you're too little. And I feel like a lot 708 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: of the time I have been criticized because I'm a 709 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: female doing it or because I'm white and doing it. 710 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: I even had someone in my comments because we won. 711 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: I won another fifty k and in my thing, I'm 712 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: showing that I'm doing this stuff. And I said in 713 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: my caption, I said, do you think females should be 714 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: criticized for talking trash or celebrating just because we're females. 715 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: And I remember one comment in particular, they said, no, 716 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: but just be more lady like. What does that even mean? 717 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: Be more lady like about it? 718 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 3: Oh my god, that stuff bothers me so much. It 719 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 3: bothers me so much. So tell us then, now that 720 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 3: you know you're three years into creating this content, where 721 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 3: do you see yourself going from here? 722 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: For a little bit, at the beginning of this year, 723 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: I remember having like my yearly meeting with my manager Alex, 724 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: and it kind of came to me in a sense 725 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: where I felt I've been looking at content creation, being 726 00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: a social media influencer as a stepping stone into my 727 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: more adult job, into my more conventional job, which is 728 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: maybe being a sideline sports reporter or sports host. And 729 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: I did get my feet wet in that at the 730 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: end of the year last year August through about middle 731 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: of February of this year, and I was learning things. 732 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: I was on set in a studio, reading from a prompter, 733 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: having to memorize things, and it was a really great 734 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: learning experience. It is a muscle that I had the 735 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: flex that I wasn't used to and through that I 736 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I actually don't enjoy this 737 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 1: as much as I thought I would. And I'm really 738 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: glad I got that experience because it made me realize, 739 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: like being a content creator, it's not a stepping stone. 740 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: I'm going to continue to double down on what I'm 741 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,919 Speaker 1: doing now. So right now, I used to edit all 742 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 1: of my stuff, long form, short form everything. Now I 743 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: don't edit my long form videos. I have a videographer. 744 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: So now when you say, like, well, what's next for you, 745 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: it's more just doubling down on what I'm already doing, 746 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: getting a videographer, getting an editor, maybe having multiple I 747 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,720 Speaker 1: do have multiple, continuing to just bring people on my team, 748 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 1: and continuing what's the next what's the next video idea, 749 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: What's the next thing I could do to level up? 750 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: You know, like I've been on America, It's got talent. 751 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: I've done performances at the Clippers NBA basketball game to 752 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: try to beat my Guinness World Record. Like if I 753 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 1: could beat my Guinness World Record, you know, just leveling up, 754 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: and that's really where it is. I'm just doubling down 755 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: on what I'm already doing. That's what's next for me, 756 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: and I feel like eventually there will be some type 757 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: of hybrid maybe of content creator and like maybe the 758 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: conventional world of being a sports hoster, or so maybe 759 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: I create my own show. Maybe even right now it's 760 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: doubling down even more on my brand, Game Changer, collabing 761 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,760 Speaker 1: with the WNBA, collabing with cool big brands. 762 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 3: And when you say all of this, the possibility is 763 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 3: exciting and it's contagious. And I really love that realization 764 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,399 Speaker 3: that you had going through that experience of doing more 765 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 3: of the conventional reporting that you thought maybe that you 766 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 3: would want to do when you were a bit younger, 767 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 3: and having that takeaway that's like, you know what, I'm 768 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 3: glad I did it, but it's not it doesn't feel 769 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 3: like it's for me. I think oftentimes we have a 770 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 3: hard time letting go of the thing that we were 771 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 3: so convinced was meant to be our path. 772 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:24,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you feel that way? 773 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: Yes? And I would. I would be told, oh, you 774 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,879 Speaker 1: look like Aaron Andrews. You could totally do what she does, 775 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: And that kind of gave me the idea to do 776 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 1: communications and major in that in college. I didn't really know, 777 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: but I kind of had people telling me that's what 778 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 1: you should do. And I'm like, yeah, I could do that, 779 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: I know sports, And so, like you said, experiencing it 780 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: living it, I realized it's really not something that I 781 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: loved as much as I do with my content creation. 782 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it is really empowering to say, hey, I'm 783 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 3: going to stand on my own two feet and make 784 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 3: my own thing and then the rest, you know, it's 785 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 3: up to possibility. 786 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. And if you think about it, like where you 787 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: thought your life was gonna go years ago, it's definitely 788 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: probably not where it is. And I just that's been 789 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 1: my life. It's I've had freak accidents, I've had things 790 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 1: that I just get opportunities for and I capitalize on them. 791 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: And I'm just going to continue to stay true to 792 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,919 Speaker 1: living each day and making the next right thing, doing 793 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 1: the next right thing for me. 794 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Now you travel a lot. I'm with you 795 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 2: on that. 796 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 3: Talk to me a little bit about how Jenna takes 797 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 3: care of Jenna when she is constantly on the move. 798 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I gotta get my coffee, that's for sure. 799 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,760 Speaker 2: The only thing that I do for self care is Cathine. 800 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: You know, you know, it's still it's true to what 801 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: I do. Even when I am home. I call my 802 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: mom every day, talk to my mama. Gotta get gotta 803 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: get that energy in. 804 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 3: Me, you know. 805 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: And it's it's really helpful to just stay on schedule. 806 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: I feel a really bad feeling in my gut when 807 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: I'm late to things. I don't like that, you know, 808 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 1: So just just making sure that I'm being considerate of others. 809 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: And and you know, I have this this tushy cushy 810 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: that I have that with me when I travel, and 811 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 1: I sit on it in the planes because I have 812 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 1: this little issue with my pariformis if I sit for 813 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,879 Speaker 1: too long, I am in pain. I'm in absolute pain, 814 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 1: and especially if I'm active, and then I have to 815 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: be on that plane. Oh my god. So that's one 816 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: thing like I gotta grab my tushy. 817 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 3: Cushiy unexpected components of the self care routine. 818 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: And then another must have is when I'm traveling, I 819 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 1: gotta bring my speaker with me. I gotta have my 820 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: music going on when I'm getting dressed, when I'm when 821 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm just in the hotel chillin. So those are like 822 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 1: my tushy cushy and my speaker and my coffee and 823 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: mama Bear. 824 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 3: I love that your self care involves aspects that some 825 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 3: individuals may not think to be proactive about. For instance, 826 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 3: calling your mom because you know that her energy fills 827 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,399 Speaker 3: up your cop thinking about how you can take care 828 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 3: of your body in situations that maybe other people wouldn't 829 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 3: think about. Some others may be like, oh fuck, I'm 830 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,959 Speaker 3: gonna be stuck on this plane for twelve hours, right, 831 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 3: But you're like, no, how can I make the best 832 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 3: of this situation? And that's just a testament to the 833 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 3: mindset that you have garnered, overcoming things that maybe didn't 834 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 3: go your way leading up to this point. You have 835 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 3: learned to truly do the best you can with what 836 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 3: you have. How does that make you feel when I 837 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 3: say that to you. 838 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 1: Wow, I mean it makes me feel pretty special, and 839 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 1: it makes me feel like I have done what I 840 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 1: can and because I know people would die to be 841 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,040 Speaker 1: in the position that I am. I remember for a 842 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: little bit I was like, gosh, YouTube is just I 843 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,399 Speaker 1: don't really want to do YouTube anymore. I'm getting enough 844 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 1: brand deals for short form content with TikTok and Instagram. 845 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,359 Speaker 1: I just want to do that. It's not as much work. 846 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 1: I could easily edit it on my phone, but I 847 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 1: had like two hundred thousand on YouTube and I just 848 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: was letting it sit there. So it's like, no anyone 849 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 1: would kill the hab my platform. So I've been capitalizing. 850 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 1: I've been making sure that I'm posting every day on 851 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 1: YouTube shorts and I'm posting a long form every week, 852 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 1: you know. So I just sometimes, you know, I do 853 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: need to get a little bit of a kick in 854 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: the butt in the reminder, you know, like like if 855 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm getting irritated with a brand and I have a 856 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: deliverable that I have to meet and they come back 857 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,919 Speaker 1: with feedback and I'm like, crap, I gotta to edit 858 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: more or I have to redo this voiceover or whatever. 859 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: I have to remind myself, Jenna, chill, stop being so spoiled, 860 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 1: because it's like you get to make videos for you 861 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 1: get to be a tomboy for a living. Already be 862 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 1: a tomboy if you weren't doing this now you're just 863 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: getting paid for it. So I have to remind myself 864 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: just like like you are blessed, Yeah you are. My 865 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 1: cup is overflowing, like you said, just being grounded with 866 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: those calls with Mama Bear and remembering where I came 867 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 1: from and how I was raised and those morals. 868 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 2: For sure, for sure. Now for you, what would you say? 869 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 3: Is probably one of the things that people don't talk 870 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 3: about as much when it comes to creating content or 871 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 3: perhaps being this public of a person. 872 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 1: Ooh, I think people think it's easy to do. I 873 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: think people but it. But it's it's deaf, it's difficult. 874 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: I got into it when I was surrounded by other creators, 875 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, we're just holding each other's phones, 876 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,879 Speaker 1: we're holding each other's cameras. I'm able to learn from 877 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 1: other people. If you're just getting into this on your 878 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: own right now, I it would be pretty difficult to 879 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 1: figure out where to start, you know. And so I 880 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,840 Speaker 1: have branded myself as a multi sport athlete. Some people 881 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: haven't branded themselves as multi anything. Maybe they just have 882 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 1: one niche and it's like, okay, well, how do you 883 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 1: continue to entertain in that same niche without doing the 884 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: same thing as you've already done. How do you make 885 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 1: it different? How do you advance it? Maybe you add 886 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: something a progression to it. It's it's it's tough. I 887 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,760 Speaker 1: like I said it. Luckily I've multi brand multi sport, 888 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 1: so I could do a football video, and you do 889 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 1: basketball video and pickleball or whatever. But it's difficult to 890 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 1: stay with the trends, to stay new, to stay fresh, 891 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,720 Speaker 1: because you get you get burnt out. It's real, like Creator, 892 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,240 Speaker 1: burnout is real. And it's like, I know Snapchat wants 893 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 1: me to post like fifty times a day, and I 894 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: just don't want to share all my life like that. 895 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 1: So it's it gets to be a little bit, it 896 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,839 Speaker 1: could be could be a lot. So I think people 897 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: don't understand, Oh, Creator, are you just showing your life? 898 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 1: That's easy? It's not that easy. 899 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 2: Can we talk about that for a bet? 900 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 3: Though? 901 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 2: What do you do when you're burnt out? 902 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: It's it's tough. I mean, I know that this is 903 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: the life I chose, right, so you have to just 904 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: reflect and assess things and make sure, like like you said, 905 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 1: you're taking care of yourself. There's a reason why you're 906 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,839 Speaker 1: burnt out. You you skipped on the priorities of taking 907 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,280 Speaker 1: care of yourself before something. So it's planning, it's preparing. 908 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 1: I've been trying to do a better job of scheduling 909 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: massages and really taking some time to go spend with 910 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 1: my family, you know, see my little niece, And so 911 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: I think it's it's when I'm burnt out. It's about 912 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,319 Speaker 1: moderation and getting back to what like just being a 913 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: normal person is, you know. Yeah, And I think it's 914 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,320 Speaker 1: okay to not share your whole life on social media, 915 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,919 Speaker 1: just showing like showing a glimpse of like it's still 916 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 1: a job. I could represent myself in this way. But 917 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I really am this 918 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 1: authentic tomboy girl. But you don't see you don't see 919 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 1: who I'm going on a date with. I love that. 920 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 3: And you know what, I think, it's like, your perception 921 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 3: is your reality. Right, So as a creator, you have 922 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 3: the opportunity to provide a picture of what your life 923 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,839 Speaker 3: is like, knowing what makes you feel comfortable to share. 924 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,839 Speaker 3: And now the problem that goes hand in hand with that, 925 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 3: as you've already articulated, is that people are going to 926 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 3: have something to say about it whether or not you 927 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 3: share it, right. 928 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And sometimes you know, you have to post 929 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 1: content even if you're having a bad day. You and 930 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,760 Speaker 1: like that, I know is tough for a lot of people, 931 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: especially if they're going through mental health problems or just whatever. 932 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 1: And you kind of have to put up a facade sometimes, 933 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 1: but it's part of your job, so it is it 934 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 1: can get kind of like it could get kind of 935 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 1: tough in that sense, it's for sure. 936 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, have you had to deal with that yourself? 937 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,759 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like dealing with heartbreak, breakups whatever. You know. 938 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 1: It's I know that it's great for your algorithm to 939 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,760 Speaker 1: have at least four stories a day in post twice 940 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 1: a week, but maybe I'm not feeling like and sometimes 941 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 1: like let's say, let's say I'm just a creator is 942 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,839 Speaker 1: over doing the same thing that they want and they 943 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 1: want to expand they want to start to multibrand stuff. 944 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,720 Speaker 1: Sometimes if you post something that is off your niche, 945 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 1: off of your like routine of posts, you're going to 946 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 1: take that hit of views and you just kind of 947 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 1: have to you have to put up when you have 948 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,839 Speaker 1: to deal with it, and you have to like you 949 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 1: have to stand strong and what you're doing and like, 950 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,319 Speaker 1: you know what I deserve. I'm still a human, so 951 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 1: I can have my off days. You know. It's just 952 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,319 Speaker 1: a little bit unfortunate that the world sees it all. 953 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's also interesting as well. 954 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 3: I mean, like, for an example, if someone who has 955 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 3: been creating content for some time, is also a new mom, 956 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 3: and they start to share some of their journey with motherhood. 957 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,439 Speaker 3: Without fail, there's always going to be people that come 958 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,760 Speaker 3: in and say, like, well, I didn't follow you because 959 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 3: you were a mom, then unfollow me, get out. 960 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 1: Why are you commenting that stuff? Just don't even comment, 961 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 1: just don't follow me. 962 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 2: Then, yeah, I'll never forget that. 963 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 3: Tunday told me once, she said when we sat down 964 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 3: the last time that when she had become a Peloton instructor, 965 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 3: she was struggling with this fact that like all of 966 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 3: the you know, public feedback, unsolicited whatnot. And one of 967 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 3: her friends said to her, would you ever go to 968 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,800 Speaker 3: someone else's Instagram and leave a nasty comment? And Tunday 969 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 3: was like no, And she was like, so why are 970 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 3: you gonna let that person. 971 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 2: Who has some nasty stuff to say to you impact you? 972 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 1: Interesting, that's a great way to look at it. 973 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 3: You would never do that for someone else. So like, 974 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 3: you can't take that person seriously. 975 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't take it personally. You know, it's a 976 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 1: certain type of person that's doing that type of stuff, 977 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,279 Speaker 1: and usually it means that they got stuff going on 978 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 1: on their own. 979 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not you, it's them. All right, all right, 980 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,319 Speaker 3: we're winding down here. Tell me, Jenna, what excites you 981 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 3: right now? 982 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 1: Getting facetimes from my sister and her little daughter. She's 983 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,320 Speaker 1: the cutest little nugget in a world. 984 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 2: How old is she? 985 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 1: She's only two years old, and she just brightens up 986 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 1: my life. 987 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:21,719 Speaker 2: You know. 988 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 1: She just gives me so much joy. And I get 989 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 1: this year pretty often, so that gives me excitement. I 990 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 1: do have to say pickleball. I love pickleball. I think 991 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,319 Speaker 1: it is the best sport in America. I think it's 992 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:40,799 Speaker 1: the best combination of power, faness iq athleticism. Like I 993 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,799 Speaker 1: just love it. And people think it's oh just for 994 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 1: old people or it's not really cool. Try it and 995 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 1: you'll get addicted. You'll get the bug. 996 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 3: I have only played it once, and I definitely, like, 997 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 3: had no concept for what the rules. 998 00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:58,440 Speaker 2: Were or anything. 999 00:53:58,800 --> 00:53:59,720 Speaker 1: It's a lot of rules. 1000 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 2: I don't have lot of fun. 1001 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 3: Right now, Jenna, you have an opportunity to offer yourself 1002 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,719 Speaker 3: a piece of advice. After that second acl tear that 1003 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 3: big hurdle moment, knowing what you know, now, what do 1004 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 3: you tell yourself? 1005 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:25,960 Speaker 1: Wow, I would tell myself. I would tell myself. You know, 1006 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 1: everyone has failures in life, and sometimes like everyone who's 1007 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,400 Speaker 1: doubting you, even your own doubts, that like not to 1008 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: listen to them, because there's a lot of times that 1009 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 1: I don't. I wasn't speaking positively to myself, and I 1010 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 1: think we all do that. So I would tell myself 1011 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 1: to get out of the ret quicker, you know, I 1012 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 1: would tell myself to speak life to myself and not death. Jenna, 1013 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 1: you got this, you know, don't talk neglie about yourself. 1014 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 1: Would I would say, do that and I and I 1015 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 1: eventually did, but it took some people that I had 1016 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 1: to surround myself around to get back to that positive space. 1017 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,840 Speaker 1: But just to give myself a little bit more grace 1018 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,879 Speaker 1: and to speak positive to myself because I think manifestation 1019 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,399 Speaker 1: is real and and you attract what you want and 1020 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 1: by saying and talking to yourself, it's a big thing. 1021 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, positively. 1022 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 3: When you're in a rut personally, like when you're on 1023 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,359 Speaker 3: the go or whatever and you're you're finding yourself kind 1024 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 3: of dipping into that negative self talk space, what do 1025 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:33,920 Speaker 3: you do to get out of it? 1026 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 1: There's like this quote that I really love and it's 1027 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 1: was it a was it a bad was it a 1028 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 1: bad day, or was it a bad five minutes that 1029 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: you milked all day? So I think everyone has the 1030 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:53,920 Speaker 1: right to get mad, to be angry for a little bit, 1031 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,439 Speaker 1: but like, don't let that take over your whole day. 1032 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 1: Give it a minute or two, five minutes, and then 1033 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 1: let's go. We're overcoming, we're talking positively. It's time to 1034 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 1: move forward. Next play mentality Right, what matters the most 1035 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 1: isn't what already happened, it's what's going to happen next. 1036 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 3: I love that, Jenna Bandy. I'm so happy that we 1037 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,319 Speaker 3: were able to make this happen. How do the hurdlers 1038 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 3: follow along with you? If they don't just yet give 1039 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 3: us your info. 1040 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,440 Speaker 1: You can follow me at Jenna Bandy twenty one, on 1041 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 1: Instagram TikTok, and on YouTube at Jenna. 1042 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 3: Bandy Love It, I'm Over, at Hurdle Podcast and at 1043 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 3: Emily a Body Another Hurdle Conquered. 1044 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:38,919 Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time.