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Speaker 1: of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain.
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Speaker 4: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
Speaker 4: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
Speaker 4: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know
Speaker 4: that our loved ones have survived physical debt, and so
Speaker 4: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. It's been
Speaker 4: a while since we talked about capturing voices and images
Speaker 4: of the afterlife, so we're going to talk about voices today.
Speaker 4: But before we begin, I want to make sure if
Speaker 4: you have not already signed up at We Don't Die
Speaker 4: dot com. At the bottom of the page, there's lots
Speaker 4: of free goodies for you, including a copy of my
Speaker 4: book and a list so you can search past shades
Speaker 4: of the Afterlife episodes, especially if you are interested in
Speaker 4: what we're going to be talking about today, which is
Speaker 4: instrumental trance communication. You may remember Sonia Ronaldi, who is
Speaker 4: top at the list of capturing voices and images, and
Speaker 4: you may have seen the film we produced a few
Speaker 4: years ago. In fact, she'll be doing a presentation for
Speaker 4: our community mid March of twenty twenty five. You can
Speaker 4: join us live, or if you're listening to this in
Speaker 4: the future, there will be a replay atweedodie dot com.
Speaker 4: This past week, I had an extraordinary conversation with Tony Rathman.
Speaker 4: He and his wife created something called staticcom to talk
Speaker 4: to the afterlife in real time. What a fascinating conversation.
Speaker 4: You can find out more about staticcom and the work
Speaker 4: at Entity Voices dot com, or simply go to YouTube
Speaker 4: and search staticcom. Let's meet Tony.
Speaker 2: Believe it or not.
Speaker 3: I didn't believe any of this. Fifteen years ago when
Speaker 3: ghost hunting shows started coming out. My wife started to
Speaker 3: watch him and she kept saying to me, you got
Speaker 3: to see this, you'll love it. I couldn't last a
Speaker 3: minute and I'd get up and I'd walk away, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, come on, this isn't real, this is television.
Speaker 3: Part of it was because my father was a physics professor,
Speaker 3: and so as a kid, when I asked questions, Dad,
Speaker 3: why is the skyblue, He'd say things like, well, there's
Speaker 3: moisture in the air. When sunlight hits it blues the
Speaker 3: most reflective color that shines through that moisture, and that's
Speaker 3: why the sky looks through. So there was no talk
Speaker 3: about actor rived consciousness surviving. That wasn't part of me
Speaker 3: growing up. So then one Valentine's Day in twenty ten,
Speaker 3: my wife says, I want to do something different. I said, okay,
Speaker 3: what do you want to do because I want to
Speaker 3: go ghost hunting? And I was like, oh boy, because
Speaker 3: I didn't believe it. I didn't think any of it
Speaker 3: was real. But I had two choices. I could take
Speaker 3: her or I could have her met at me until
Speaker 3: next Valentine's Day. So I figured I'll take her. So
Speaker 3: I did some research online found a place here in Phoenix, Arizona,
Speaker 3: which had a reputation of being haunted, so I booked
Speaker 3: it for the weekend, bought her some relatively inexpensive equipment,
Speaker 3: knowing that it would probably be used once and then
Speaker 3: sit on a shelf for the next couple of years.
Speaker 3: And so I took there. I played along. She had
Speaker 3: a wonderful time. But it was when she got back
Speaker 3: and she started reviewing the photographs, the video and the audio,
Speaker 3: and there was stuff on there. I could not explain
Speaker 3: how it got there. She was calling me over every
Speaker 3: couple of minutes, what's in this photo? This wasn't there,
Speaker 3: And we took it. Whose voices this? You and I
Speaker 3: were the only one in the basement at three in
Speaker 3: the morning. Who's answering this question? I was blown away.
Speaker 3: So I tried to debunk it for like a month,
Speaker 3: couldn't do it. Finally said, there were let's go back
Speaker 3: and try again. Maybe there's lighting we didn't notice that
Speaker 3: were causing shadows. Maybe there were events where voices were
Speaker 3: coming through that we didn't catch. So we went back
Speaker 3: and Nope, couldn't find any events, couldn't find any weird lighting.
Speaker 3: Couldn't explain again what had showed up. So we went
Speaker 3: back again and again, and this is how it started.
Speaker 3: And now fifteen years later, we're still doing it. But
Speaker 3: what fascinated me the most was an EVP. How I
Speaker 3: could get a voice from somebody who was not there,
Speaker 3: was not in front of us, was not in the
Speaker 3: location we were standing in, but yet with timing in relevance,
Speaker 3: was answering the question I asked with intelligence. That absolutely
Speaker 3: fascinated me. So as the years went by, we developed
Speaker 3: and continued to focus on EVP. Then we switched over
Speaker 3: to ITC, or instrumental trans communication. If I could get
Speaker 3: answers of a digital recorder what's called a record and
Speaker 3: review process, meaning I'd asked all my questions, but I
Speaker 3: couldn't necessarily hear the responses. I could only hear it
Speaker 3: when the recorder was replayed. So then you'd go home
Speaker 3: and you'd review it, and then you'd hear any responses
Speaker 3: that were there. But it didn't allow for communication because
Speaker 3: by the time you heard it understood what was said,
Speaker 3: the moment had passed. So that's what drew us into ITC. Today,
Speaker 3: it's most known in America as a spirit box because
Speaker 3: Frank Sumption invented the spirit box, which scans radio. Before
Speaker 3: the spirit Box, there was a device developed by Frederick G.
Speaker 3: Jergensen and then picked up by Constantine Rodine as well
Speaker 3: as Marcello Bachi and Marcello Bacchi used it for about
Speaker 3: forty years, where it also used a radio, but sat
Speaker 3: on a single portion of the dial. Whereas the spirit
Speaker 3: box stands up and down the radio, this would sit
Speaker 3: on a vacant station, meaning only producing the sound of
Speaker 3: white noise, and he got communication two way communication. He
Speaker 3: could ask a question and get a response. Still, my
Speaker 3: wife and I built spirit boxes for about twelve years,
Speaker 3: trying to improve them, make them quieter, make the communication
Speaker 3: more understandable, and we were able to do that, but
Speaker 3: the one thing we were not able to do was
Speaker 3: to lengthen the communication, meaning we'd get a word or
Speaker 3: two maybe you know, one side of one hundred times
Speaker 3: or five hundred times full sentence. But it was very rare.
Speaker 3: And the theory behind the spirit box was that entities
Speaker 3: were to take the fragments of audio from the radio
Speaker 3: it's scanning up and down and rearrange them into their
Speaker 3: own sentences. While through our research we determine that's not
Speaker 3: the case at all. In fact, no radio signal is
Speaker 3: needed whatsoever. All we needed was the white noise sound.
Speaker 3: So we replaced the radio with a white noise generator
Speaker 3: live white noise generator which produces every sound the humaneer
Speaker 3: can hear from twenty hurts to twenty killer hertz, and
Speaker 3: with that we were able to get full suit way
Speaker 3: communication answers to our questions with timing in relevance and intelligence.
Speaker 4: Incredible. Now I've seen some of your videos, and could
Speaker 4: you talk about some of the questions you'd ask and
Speaker 4: some of the responses that would come, just so people
Speaker 4: can get an idea what it is you're talking about.
Speaker 3: Sure, one of the first questions. And like I said,
Speaker 3: when we started to realize that this could be done
Speaker 3: and that the method that was being used work, we
Speaker 3: had some counterparts a while back that brought back the
Speaker 3: direct radio voice method because, like I said, Machellobachi had
Speaker 3: been tested by scientists and they couldn't explain how this
Speaker 3: was happening. So that method was reinvented, recreated in the
Speaker 3: twenty first century to figure out can we do it?
Speaker 3: Does it work? And it did. Then we moved to
Speaker 3: STATICOM and we've gone from STATICOM to STATICOM two point
Speaker 3: zero and now staticcom three point zero, which has only
Speaker 3: existed for a couple of weeks. Now but with two
Speaker 3: point zero we were asking all sorts of questions, things
Speaker 3: like if the identities are no longer human bodied, meaning
Speaker 3: they don't have ears. When I speak, I create a
Speaker 3: vocal disturbance in the atmosphere, and some other human with
Speaker 3: human ears, the follicles in the ear will vibrate. That
Speaker 3: vibration transfers to the liquid center of the year, which
Speaker 3: then goes to the brain translates into the speech. So
Speaker 3: if you don't have a human bond, how do they
Speaker 3: hear me speak? While we asked that question, the answer
Speaker 3: came back. We call it death energy of your mind.
Speaker 3: That's the thing that was a phenomenal response to get
Speaker 3: back for a variety of reasons. One in doing EVP
Speaker 3: work for fifteen years would noticed at times that the
Speaker 3: answer would show up on the recording before we even
Speaker 3: finished asking the question. This explains it. I don't have
Speaker 3: to verbally express it. They are getting it literally by
Speaker 3: me thinking.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of grief happening in the world, and
Speaker 4: most of my listeners are people who have lost loved ones.
Speaker 4: I know we're not lost, but that is the expression
Speaker 4: we use. We have migrated to an unseen world, so
Speaker 4: we're looking for evidence that our loved ones go on?
Speaker 4: Have you come to believe that our loved ones go on?
Speaker 4: Has a staticcom worked with connecting people to their loved
Speaker 4: ones or you talking to loved ones?
Speaker 3: Absolutely after life?
Speaker 4: Can you tell us about that?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? So. One of the first connections was made by
Speaker 3: our former partners and he got a message. It was
Speaker 3: too quick at that time, meaning they speak so fast
Speaker 3: at times that your mind can't comprehend it because it's
Speaker 3: literally coming out so quickly that your brain can't even
Speaker 3: pick apart the words. But he literally got a message
Speaker 3: from both his mother, who had recently passed away a
Speaker 3: year or two ago, and his grandmother, both speaking, both
Speaker 3: responding to him, called out his name, said that they
Speaker 3: were connecting, and his first question was do you know
Speaker 3: who I am? Can you say my name? And the
Speaker 3: response came back Ronnie, which his mother would call him.
Speaker 3: It's mom, it's Lucy, and Lucy was his grandmother. But
Speaker 3: they both talked I had reached out to my grandfather
Speaker 3: and got him to connect and answer. My wife mother
Speaker 3: passed away about two years ago. She was able to
Speaker 3: get messages from her. We recognized the voice. Her mother
Speaker 3: also spoke into Golog as my wife speaks English Japanese
Speaker 3: and to Golog the voice came through into Golog. She
Speaker 3: picked it up immediately and said, that's my mom. I said,
Speaker 3: I know, I recognize the voice. So the implications for
Speaker 3: this are literally mind blowing, because not only can a
Speaker 3: conversation be had, the voice can be recognized. So it
Speaker 3: supports the theory that consciousness very well does survive physical
Speaker 3: death of the body and goes on. I mean, we've
Speaker 3: had conversations Marchelli Bachi, who was the one who had
Speaker 3: used this device or a similar device. We've upgraded it,
Speaker 3: but back thirty five forty years we got in contact
Speaker 3: with him. He responded to us, My wife said something
Speaker 3: like this is your method. Can you say something and
Speaker 3: clear as a bell, he said, I'd say glad to
Speaker 3: meet you. You can still hear the accent and his
Speaker 3: voice from the European language that he spoke. But what
Speaker 3: we really want is we want science to take a
Speaker 3: deeper look at this scientists, because these voices aren't coming
Speaker 3: from a radio anymore. They are coming from a process
Speaker 3: called stochastic resonance, which is basically using white noise to
Speaker 3: take an undetectable signal and make it detectable. That's where
Speaker 3: these voices are lying. But they are there, which means
Speaker 3: that spirits are constantly looking for ways to communicate.
Speaker 4: This is such good news. There's more with Tony when
Speaker 4: we come back. Let's go to the break. You're listening
Speaker 4: to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast
Speaker 4: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
Speaker 5: Stay there, Sandra will be right back. Hey, the Coast
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Speaker 1: Hey, this is George Nori and you're listening to the
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Speaker 1: for being here. Now let's get back to more with Sandra.
Speaker 4: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
Speaker 4: and we're listening to Tony Rathman in his creation of
Speaker 4: staticicom Our loved ones want us to know that they
Speaker 4: are okay and still live on. Let's continue.
Speaker 3: Spirit are constantly looking for ways to communicate, and they
Speaker 3: are very eager to communicate. It's just a matter of
Speaker 3: being open enough to accept that they're trying to do this.
Speaker 3: Listen to what they have to say and devices like
Speaker 3: staticcom make it clearly simple to be able to have
Speaker 3: a conversation with consciousness that's no longer human embody.
Speaker 4: This is such good news.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 4: I've done a lot of work on my own with
Speaker 4: EVPs and I've recorded some amazing things. I'm very close
Speaker 4: to Sonia Andaldi and the team. She's done a lot
Speaker 4: of that and then also visual now. But for people
Speaker 4: to know that their loved ones really want them to
Speaker 4: know that they're alive, they're well. We've seen some great
Speaker 4: medium demonstrations. We see how close our loved ones are,
Speaker 4: that they're part of our lives. But there is something
Speaker 4: tony that takes us from hope and faith to knowing
Speaker 4: when you can hear a voice, oh, you've given me goosebumps.
Speaker 3: That's one of the really fascinating things about staticom is
Speaker 3: that mediums are great. We've worked with them before, we
Speaker 3: worked with them with this method, But instead of a
Speaker 3: third party telling you what they're hearing or what messages
Speaker 3: they're getting, for you to be able to hear it
Speaker 3: yourself and anyone else who's standing in the room, to
Speaker 3: hear them speak and respond to whatever question you ask.
Speaker 3: That to me is another step up to be able
Speaker 3: to hear them for yourselves. Hear it for yourself rather
Speaker 3: than someone else explain it to you.
Speaker 4: I completely agree. Now, a staticcom something that people can
Speaker 4: do themselves. Is it only one machine that you have
Speaker 4: right now and it's in development? How can we know
Speaker 4: more about it and what the future is that we
Speaker 4: can be involved?
Speaker 3: Sure, right now, it's still in development, and we, just
Speaker 3: like I said, did an upgrade. It's a complicated system though,
Speaker 3: unlike a spirit box that you buy it, turn it
Speaker 3: on and you can just start asking questions. Listen is
Speaker 3: a more scientific structure of sound, of the principle of
Speaker 3: stochastic residence. It is a Frankenstein's Monster of audio editing
Speaker 3: software from frequency to noise reduction and everything in between.
Speaker 3: So one of the reasons why we haven't just released
Speaker 3: it yet and turned it over is because a the
Speaker 3: research is still going on. And two, even if we
Speaker 3: turn it over to a thousand people, to begin with
Speaker 3: the number of questions, Oh hey, I turned it on,
Speaker 3: but I'm not getting what you're getting? What do I do?
Speaker 3: There's through us, myself and my wife to be able
Speaker 3: to handle that answer questions properly, be able to instruct them.
Speaker 3: You know, how to correct it, how to fix it.
Speaker 3: We would be overwhelmed and swamped right now. So unfortunately,
Speaker 3: until we figure out how that can be done, do
Speaker 3: we plan to release it? Yes, we do. Are we
Speaker 3: ready to do that right at this moment? No, I'm
Speaker 3: afraid we're not. That's okay.
Speaker 4: Will you think of the cell phones when they first
Speaker 4: came out, these big clunky things, Oh my gosh, And
Speaker 4: then look what we can do now access almost all
Speaker 4: of information in one second. Right, However, people can see
Speaker 4: your work. You've got videos. I know people will want
Speaker 4: to research this, and here are some of the examples,
Speaker 4: and tell us about some of the things you've recorded.
Speaker 4: What we can see, what we can find where.
Speaker 3: Is probably one hundred and fifty or more videos up
Speaker 3: on YouTube if you just go and search stata com.
Speaker 3: It is everything from communication with loved ones to answers
Speaker 3: to questions from a scientific basis that we want to know, Hey,
Speaker 3: how does this occur? How does this happen? Random questions
Speaker 3: like how many fingers am I holding up? Or what
Speaker 3: am I holding in my hand? The hardest part about
Speaker 3: asking questions is that a we're scientifically minded, so we're
Speaker 3: trying to figure out information to get There are literally
Speaker 3: millions of questions. People always ask us, did you ask
Speaker 3: how the pyramids were built? Did Atlantis really exist? I
Speaker 3: mean I could spend a lifetime asking questions and just
Speaker 3: see what responses come through. Is that a fascinating subject? Absolutely?
Speaker 3: It is being able to connect to loved ones. We
Speaker 3: also do public events with this, where we're in front
Speaker 3: of a large group of people. We allow people to
Speaker 3: ask their own questions and get answers, and we've had
Speaker 3: people connect in public events with loved ones that they've
Speaker 3: identified the voice. The voice answered questions that only they
Speaker 3: would know. In fact, we did one up in Sedona
Speaker 3: a month or so ago and a woman there had
Speaker 3: a son that passed away and when he was in hospice,
Speaker 3: they create a code sentence and she said, if this
Speaker 3: is really you, we had a code sentence, what is
Speaker 3: that sentence? The voice came through. I saw her face
Speaker 3: just go white. I heard what he said, and she's like,
Speaker 3: that's him. That was our code.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. On your website, would you be able
Speaker 4: to see where your live events are? What's coming up?
Speaker 3: Yeah? We put the arrive events on hold at the
Speaker 3: moment they're going to come back again. But like I said,
Speaker 3: because we upgraded Statacom, there's a whole testing process to
Speaker 3: make sure everything's working correctly as it should. And then
Speaker 3: of course there's the whole research side of it as well.
Speaker 3: What else can we learn about consciousness? Is it around
Speaker 3: us all the time, which at this point we know
Speaker 3: it is. They can see us, they can hear us,
Speaker 3: they can tell us what we're wearing, they know what
Speaker 3: we did, they can tell us what day it is.
Speaker 3: All these questions and examples are shown on both the website.
Speaker 3: There's interviews that we've done explaining how it works, samples shown,
Speaker 3: so just about everything you can think of. Plus, we
Speaker 3: did a three part documentary on paraflix. It is free
Speaker 3: to watch. It's about three hours and seven minutes long,
Speaker 3: but it covers exactly my clue, how list breaks down,
Speaker 3: how we believe it's working, and there's a ton of
Speaker 3: samples in there as well.
Speaker 4: We have to go to paraflex or can we find
Speaker 4: that through Entity voices dot com.
Speaker 3: There there's a link on both the website and Tony
Speaker 3: Rathman Facebook page that takes you right to it. Like
Speaker 3: I said, it's free. It'll take your right to the link,
Speaker 3: you click and watch.
Speaker 4: It's that simple, okay, that we can do that. So
Speaker 4: Sony Vernaldi's a good friend of mine, and like I said,
Speaker 4: she's recorded voices and she's working now with pictures and things.
Speaker 4: She's been doing this for well over thirty years. She's
Speaker 4: a miraculous woman. I've asked her what it takes to
Speaker 4: do this, because a lot of people think if they
Speaker 4: get a recorder or if they just do this, oh,
Speaker 4: it should just be that easy. And what she says,
Speaker 4: it is a commitment. So those in the unseen world
Speaker 4: that work with you, whatever that team is, you know,
Speaker 4: I imagine people all waiting in line to get their mouth
Speaker 4: on the microphone to come through right as the vision
Speaker 4: I have. But I believe that you and your wife
Speaker 4: have shown that commitment. So I think there's teams of
Speaker 4: scientists over on the other side that are working with you.
Speaker 4: It's just my gut instinct. Can you talk a little
Speaker 4: bit about that commitment, because I know people want to
Speaker 4: pick up recorders and try things on their own, and
Speaker 4: I do think there's like beginner's luck. Sometimes they hook
Speaker 4: us like they give us an example and then we
Speaker 4: do this for ourselves. But it really takes that passion
Speaker 4: and commitment correct.
Speaker 3: It does, and it also takes a variety of time,
Speaker 3: and it can vary by individual. Who that individual is,
Speaker 3: how open their heart is, how accepting they are of
Speaker 3: information that may be unconventional to what they were taught.
Speaker 3: That plays a major role. The other major role is
Speaker 3: things like trust, honesty. The ability of who you are
Speaker 3: plays just as big of a role in getting that
Speaker 3: communication as what device you're using. Spirits can literally manipulate
Speaker 3: most electronic devices, and a lot of people like you said,
Speaker 3: we'll say, well, I bought a recorder and I tried
Speaker 3: EVP four or five times. I got nothing, So I
Speaker 3: don't think this works. While it does take time, they're
Speaker 3: looking at you saying, Okay, are they doing this because
Speaker 3: they want to learn? Do they want to grow? Do
Speaker 3: they want a better understanding of what life is about
Speaker 3: and what the afterlife is about? Or are they doing
Speaker 3: it to post on Facebook or Twitter or Instagram to
Speaker 3: get likes? And you can't hide that whatever your inner
Speaker 3: feelings are, whatever your intentions are, they're going to know
Speaker 3: right off the bat. But even if your intentions are good,
Speaker 3: it takes time. Before we started getting really clear communication.
Speaker 3: It was years and not that we didn't get communication
Speaker 3: before that, but it was a word or two. It
Speaker 3: was enough to keep us going, keep us chasing it,
Speaker 3: keep us researching it. But anybody can do it in
Speaker 3: your own personality, your attitude, your outlook will have a
Speaker 3: huge effect on how quickly it begins, how it develops,
Speaker 3: and the longer you do it, it just continues to unfold.
Speaker 4: Yeah, to have that dedication, that commitment, that love even
Speaker 4: when we are talking to our loved ones. One of
Speaker 4: the practices I always tell people is to picture their
Speaker 4: loved one. Think of a happy memory, fun filled with love.
Speaker 4: Have them step forward. See if you can feel a
Speaker 4: little tingle or a little touch, or sometimes loved ones
Speaker 4: put an image in your mind or past memory. That's
Speaker 4: gentle ways of communication because, like you said, it is
Speaker 4: through thought. But if we do it once, then we say, oh,
Speaker 4: it didn't work. Well, there's your loved one standing there
Speaker 4: in the unseen world, really wanting you to know that
Speaker 4: they're still alive and well, because it helps with grief
Speaker 4: to believe in the afterlife. It really does. So it
Speaker 4: is something that we talk to them. Okay, we're going
Speaker 4: to do this Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. We're going to
Speaker 4: keep it going because I don't think Tony, that when
Speaker 4: we migrate to the other side, we're given all the
Speaker 4: information in the universe. I think we have to learn
Speaker 4: this probably too.
Speaker 3: Would you think, Yeah, I believe that it's a shared
Speaker 3: universal mind that we return to, and I think that
Speaker 3: that knowledge within it, which I believe we're part of.
Speaker 3: Now we're just separate and embodied in the human body.
Speaker 3: When that connection breaks and we return to the other side,
Speaker 3: I think we go back to that universal knowledge, which
Speaker 3: is shared knowledge. But you made a really good point
Speaker 3: about if somebody does EVP three or four times and
Speaker 3: doesn't get a response. What I can tell you from
Speaker 3: fifteen years of research is they can hear you, regardless
Speaker 3: of whether you can hear them or not. So if
Speaker 3: you say to them, good morning, I really miss you,
Speaker 3: I hope you're having a pleasant day, they heard you.
Speaker 3: And we know that because we've had them repeat things
Speaker 3: to us that we said without any equipment, without any devices.
Speaker 3: And then we'll go, hey, I made a certain statement
Speaker 3: on sucking such day. Send it to you. What was
Speaker 3: it that I said? And boom through the machine. They'll
Speaker 3: repeat the statement I said three or.
Speaker 4: Four days, my goodness, and it is like learning a
Speaker 4: new language to an extent. I know, once I got
Speaker 4: the hang of EVPs and I started getting communication and trusting,
Speaker 4: I would go back to my original recordings and there
Speaker 4: would be words on them. So I know for myself,
Speaker 4: my mind was picking up the sound of the white noise,
Speaker 4: and within that there were words. Let's take a quick
Speaker 4: break and we'll be right back with Tony. You're listening
Speaker 4: to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast
Speaker 4: to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network.
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain,
Speaker 4: and we're talking to Tony Raffman, co creator of staticcom
Speaker 4: to hear voices live time from loved ones in the afterlife.
Speaker 4: There's something Tony said just before the break that bears
Speaker 4: repeating that they can hear us no matter if we
Speaker 4: can hear them or not. Let's play that again and continue.
Speaker 3: What I can tell you from fifteen years of research
Speaker 3: is they can hear you regardless of whether you can
Speaker 3: hear them or not. So if you say to them,
Speaker 3: good morning, I really miss you, I hope you're having
Speaker 3: a pleasant day, they heard you. And we know that
Speaker 3: because we've had them repeat things to us that we
Speaker 3: said without any equipment, without any devices, and then we'll go, hey,
Speaker 3: I made a certain statement on sucking such day, send
Speaker 3: it to you. What was it that I said? And
Speaker 3: boom through the machine, they'll repeat the statement I said
Speaker 3: three or four days.
Speaker 4: Prior, my goodness, And it is like learning a new
Speaker 4: language to an extent. I know, once I got the
Speaker 4: hang of EVPs and I started getting communication and trusting,
Speaker 4: I would go back to my original recordings and there
Speaker 4: would be words on them. So I know for myself,
Speaker 4: my mind was picking up the sound of the white
Speaker 4: noise within that there were words. So I think with
Speaker 4: people to have that patience and to trust, and also
Speaker 4: to be able to trust your instinct, because like you said,
Speaker 4: they can hear us, but we may not be able
Speaker 4: to hear them. Doesn't mean they're not talking.
Speaker 3: Correct, That is absolutely correct. You know people always used
Speaker 3: to say, well, you know what do you think the
Speaker 3: biggest barrier is between the living and the dead. The
Speaker 3: simple barrier is the human body. Our site is limited
Speaker 3: to visual sight only. We can't see infra red full spectrum.
Speaker 3: There are a variety of other visual spectrums that the
Speaker 3: human eye can't see. Our hearing is limited to twenty
Speaker 3: herds to twenty killer hurts. There's some variety ultrasound, all
Speaker 3: sorts of other sound frequencies that the human air can't hear.
Speaker 3: So it's almost as if when you're alive and learning
Speaker 3: and growing, you're meant to be set rated. But due
Speaker 3: to technology, due to open mindedness and the ability to
Speaker 3: accept dreams, images, other information that comes to you, you
Speaker 3: can break that boundary down. But you're absolutely right. I mean,
Speaker 3: they are there, they are watching, they are keeping an
Speaker 3: eye on you, and with devices such as static it's
Speaker 3: super exciting because science, even today, even with the way
Speaker 3: that it's expanded, and they're starting to say we believe
Speaker 3: consciousness might survive death. Well not might. When I can
Speaker 3: ask a question with no mics, no nothing but my
Speaker 3: own human voice standing in the middle of my house
Speaker 3: and get a response that answers my question to a
Speaker 3: tee from somebody knock in the house. That's pretty good
Speaker 3: indication that consciousness very well survives death, that survived as well.
Speaker 3: We one time ask for a lost dog passed away
Speaker 3: and sure enough that came through from a friend of ours.
Speaker 3: When he asked the question, said the dog's name, if
Speaker 3: you're there, bark for me. Sure enough, bar came right through.
Speaker 3: So petsv souls as well in those continue.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And the research I've done on near death experiences
Speaker 4: and the vertical information and simply put, that is things
Speaker 4: that people have witnessed while their bodies lying there dead
Speaker 4: and they can't hear, they can't see, and they've floated
Speaker 4: up above the hospital. One of my favorite stories is
Speaker 4: somebody saw read high heeled shoe up there and they're like, well,
Speaker 4: that can't be And somebody ran up to the roof
Speaker 4: and on the top of the hospital is that shoe?
Speaker 4: You know, there is so much evidence, but we all
Speaker 4: have a big piece of us Tony that is skeptical.
Speaker 4: How do we trust and just kind of set that
Speaker 4: skeptical mind to the side for a little while.
Speaker 3: Well, it's not easy to do and for a lot
Speaker 3: of people until it happens to them. Like I said,
Speaker 3: I was completely skeptic of all of this, didn't think
Speaker 3: it was real, didn't think it existed, and I grew
Speaker 3: up that way for thirty years. But then when it
Speaker 3: started happening to me, it was that personalization. One of
Speaker 3: the first EVPs I ever got. I asked for the
Speaker 3: name or whoever was speaking to me, and she gave
Speaker 3: her name, and that was so mind blowing to me.
Speaker 3: And then I'd go back and I'd say her name, Hey,
Speaker 3: are you there? And she'd respond, And this was just
Speaker 3: EVP at the time, but it was that personalized encounter
Speaker 3: of this is real, this exists. There's so much more
Speaker 3: to life than what we know or what science knows.
Speaker 3: And science doesn't explain reality or life. They explain how
Speaker 3: things function, they explain how behaviors predictable, and what they
Speaker 3: expect to happen, but they don't tell you what life
Speaker 3: is or what it's about or how it exists. So
Speaker 3: all of those doors are open. So when you talk
Speaker 3: about out the adventure of diving into a real treasure
Speaker 3: haunt of information, the afterlife is it And once you
Speaker 3: start to go down that road and get information that
Speaker 3: supports what you're thinking. It's fascinating and it just keeps
Speaker 3: pushing you along to find out more, dive in deeper
Speaker 3: and see how far you can take it and what
Speaker 3: information you can receive from it, And that to me
Speaker 3: is absolutely fascinating and mind blowing. I agree.
Speaker 4: I'm now twenty seven to twenty eight years into researching
Speaker 4: the afterlife. It is an onion that you just peel
Speaker 4: into the center and it never ends, and it's the
Speaker 4: sweetest onion, it really is, and it has such an
Speaker 4: impact on not only help through grief, but how we
Speaker 4: live life. When we start realizing that we're not just
Speaker 4: less and bone, then it's like, well, who am I?
Speaker 4: What is my life for? How do we make the
Speaker 4: most of being here on earth? Do you have any
Speaker 4: thoughts on who we are as people and why we're
Speaker 4: here and get the biggest bang for the buck being human?
Speaker 4: Any thoughts on that, Tony?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely. We follow a theory called analytic idealism, which
Speaker 3: basically says that the one ontological primitive and what that
Speaker 3: basically means is the one standard building block in life
Speaker 3: is consciousness. And we believe that to be universal consciousness,
Speaker 3: and life here on the planet when we're embodied, is
Speaker 3: a learning experience. If universal consciousness is one mind and
Speaker 3: we're all part of that one mind, that mind can't
Speaker 3: learn itself or can't grow itself. So when we come
Speaker 3: back and experience sixty ninety years of life or hopefully more,
Speaker 3: that teaches universal consciousness. And when we pass back over
Speaker 3: everything that we've learned, everything that we now understand from
Speaker 3: that life gets transferred back to universal consciousness and allows
Speaker 3: universal consciousness to grow. The thing about life, though, is
Speaker 3: that it's entirely subjected to you and you alone. We
Speaker 3: can't read other people's minds, we can't see through their eyes,
Speaker 3: we can't hear through their ears, and every piece of
Speaker 3: life is an experience. It's mental more than physical. When
Speaker 3: something happens, or we see something and let's say it's
Speaker 3: a rock, science comes along. It says, okay, the rock
Speaker 3: is forty eight pounds and it's twelve inches by fifty inches,
Speaker 3: and science has kind of switched it and made the
Speaker 3: description of it or the measuring of it the thing.
Speaker 3: The rock is not the measurements. You can't measure something
Speaker 3: unless you've perceived it. First, and that perception comes from consciousness.
Speaker 3: So that's what makes consciousness the ontological primitive or the
Speaker 3: basic building block, and all of life is subjective to
Speaker 3: you and you alone. You can have similar experiences with
Speaker 3: somebody else. They can say okay, yeah, I saw that too,
Speaker 3: or I experienced which you experienced. But again you can't
Speaker 3: compare the two because your human body senses are only
Speaker 3: available to you, and every person on the planet is
Speaker 3: like that. For consciousness or people not embodied anymore, that's
Speaker 3: not the case. They're sharing knowledge. That is why we
Speaker 3: can ask one spirit any question and they can pull
Speaker 3: back the answer for us, which is absolutely amazing to us.
Speaker 3: We can be talking only to one spirit and we
Speaker 3: can say, well, you know, what's Marcello Bocci doing. Oh,
Speaker 3: he's doing this because they're all connected, and that to
Speaker 3: me is one of the fascinating things. But you know,
Speaker 3: for people who are grieving from a lost loved one,
Speaker 3: nothing's going to make that easier from a perspective of
Speaker 3: that loss is there and it seems permanent because they
Speaker 3: were embodied, they were in front of you. You could
Speaker 3: talk to them. They are still there, they are still around.
Speaker 3: You haven't lost them. You will never lose them, and
Speaker 3: they will be there in the future again in a
Speaker 3: situation where you can communicate, enjoy their presence like you
Speaker 3: did here, and probably even more so because you'll be
Speaker 3: lifted from the pressures of day to day life, the stresses.
Speaker 3: But there is no true loss in life because it continues.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I heard once a great quote that our life
Speaker 4: is just a thread of the fabric.
Speaker 3: Of our soul.
Speaker 4: This is just a little blip, and we humans buy
Speaker 4: into it that this is the reality. And I think
Speaker 4: for me, one of the ways that we can disarm
Speaker 4: that skeptical mind is to start viewing life as everything
Speaker 4: is a miracle. Down to the Wanton level, all we
Speaker 4: are is vibrating energy, invisible vibrating energy.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: So when we start to get down to that, we're
Speaker 4: a mighty realistic illusion, right we are. But to start
Speaker 4: questioning that, it starts opening up that this other stuff
Speaker 4: can be possible and is possible.
Speaker 3: You are absolutely correct. And Nikola Tesla said way back,
Speaker 3: you know, if you want to understand the universe, think
Speaker 3: in terms of energy, frequency and vibration. And the more
Speaker 3: we look into that and the more we understand how
Speaker 3: it functions. I mean, people come up to us all
Speaker 3: the time and say, how are you getting a voice?
Speaker 3: If they have no vocal cords? How is that even possible? Well,
Speaker 3: if you break down how the vocals work, we create
Speaker 3: a sound weight which consists of energy, frequency, and vibration.
Speaker 3: That's how sound is made. And the great example of
Speaker 3: that is plucking a entire strength. The energy is in
Speaker 3: your finger plucking it, then it vibrates and produces sound
Speaker 3: through the energy and the vibration of it. If a
Speaker 3: spirit or consciousness is energy, frequency and vibration, then producing
Speaker 3: vocals would be no concerning whatsoever.
Speaker 4: Well, take our break now. But Tony and his wife
Speaker 4: aren't the first people to go after afterlife communication. Some
Speaker 4: of the greatest minds were interested in it, including Thomas Edison.
Speaker 4: More about that in our next segment. Let's head off
Speaker 4: to the break and we will be right back with
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
Speaker 4: and you're hearing the story of staticicom, a device that
Speaker 4: allows two way conversation from the afterlife. You can find
Speaker 4: out more about it at Entityvoices dot com or just
Speaker 4: go to YouTube and search staticicom. Let's continue with Tony Rathman.
Speaker 3: People come up to us all the time and say,
Speaker 3: how are you getting a voice if they have no
Speaker 3: vocal cords? How is that even possible? Well, if you
Speaker 3: break down how the vocals work, we create a sound weight,
Speaker 3: which consists of energy, frequency, and vibration. That's how sound
Speaker 3: is made. And the great example of that is plucking
Speaker 3: an entire string. The energy is in your finger plucking it,
Speaker 3: then it vibrates and produces sound through the energy and
Speaker 3: the vibration of it. If a spirit or consciousness is energy,
Speaker 3: frequency and vibration, then producing vocals would be no concern whatsoever.
Speaker 4: Tony, this morning, I was having coffee looking outside, and
Speaker 4: this beautiful bird just went sailing by, and I was
Speaker 4: thinking about my two else, Wilbur and Orville. Right, and
Speaker 4: how way back these two guys have built bicycles, had
Speaker 4: a dream, and look.
Speaker 3: Where we are now.
Speaker 4: All of the world functions on air travel, right, So
Speaker 4: here we are Orville and Wilbur. Well, it's Tony and
Speaker 4: Suri is how you pronounce your wife's name, Surrey correct
Speaker 4: Suri and others that are working on it. There's great minds.
Speaker 4: But what's possible with this? And then also, I know
Speaker 4: in an email you spoke about maybe someday tying in
Speaker 4: the visuals too. What's possible for mankind?
Speaker 3: All boundaries we probably even haven't been able to even
Speaker 3: reach yet knowing because we don't know where the boundaries
Speaker 3: of this technology is, but you're absolutely right tying it
Speaker 3: into Sonya's visual where not only can you get a
Speaker 3: picture of them, but you can hear them speak as well.
Speaker 3: A combination of those two would be absolutely fascinating. The
Speaker 3: information that comes through staticom. We've been now experimenting and
Speaker 3: researching with it for the last three or four years.
Speaker 3: Any piece of information that we can get that we
Speaker 3: can then go research and find out is this factual?
Speaker 3: Is it accurate? About ninety four percent of everything that
Speaker 3: we were able to research is in fact the truth.
Speaker 3: There's a clip out on both YouTube Facebook that my
Speaker 3: wife wasn't feeling well and I had staticom running and
Speaker 3: she's like, Oh, I'm not feeling alarm in pain. I
Speaker 3: literally said, spirits, is my wife getting sick? Answer was
Speaker 3: it's possible. I said, what should she take? And then
Speaker 3: this word came through. I didn't know the word, but
Speaker 3: I ended up looking it up after the word was Perkadan.
Speaker 3: Did not know what that was. Perkadan is a prescription
Speaker 3: strength pain reliever which you need a prescription for. But
Speaker 3: I didn't even know what the word was, so I
Speaker 3: had to go look it up. But sure enough it
Speaker 3: was a prescription drug for pain and for them to
Speaker 3: answer that. But knowing that that information we can get
Speaker 3: without knowing, without predetermining what's going to be said. One
Speaker 3: of the other future that we're looking into to use
Speaker 3: staticcom for is cold cases, because when you talk about
Speaker 3: grief and you talk about a family missing a family member,
Speaker 3: not knowing where they are, not knowing what happened, that
Speaker 3: kind of grief doubles it because you're already missing them,
Speaker 3: they're already gone. But to be able to ask spirits
Speaker 3: and through the research, we know that they will give
Speaker 3: us information from the past. They will not give us
Speaker 3: information future related. Even if I say something as simple
Speaker 3: as I have a choice, should I do this or
Speaker 3: should I do that? They won't answer why because we
Speaker 3: believe they can't affect the life we were put here
Speaker 3: to live and to learn from. But past they will answer,
Speaker 3: and we've been researching it. We are getting responses we want.
Speaker 3: But to be able to help on cold cases for
Speaker 3: people grieving about a lost love one, not knowing what happened,
Speaker 3: where they are, what occurred, this may be a great
Speaker 3: help in able to solve cold cases that have been
Speaker 3: mysteries since the forties fifties or.
Speaker 4: Who knows what good news that is and never even
Speaker 4: thought of that, and the futures not yet written. You know,
Speaker 4: we have free will when we're here. I think we
Speaker 4: come onto this planet to do certain things and learn,
Speaker 4: and there's different opportunities that we have. And so I'm
Speaker 4: not one hundred percent bought into that, you know the
Speaker 4: future is written, because that would take the fun out
Speaker 4: of life, wouldn't it.
Speaker 3: I think I agree, And we were given free will
Speaker 3: for a reason. We keep it. On the other side,
Speaker 3: I can tell you that just by the answers that
Speaker 3: we get, like for example, and not only is this
Speaker 3: an example of free will, but your sense of humor
Speaker 3: is still there. The person that you view yourself almost
Speaker 3: as a mirror or a shadow of yourself. The human
Speaker 3: body is what we look like to others, but when
Speaker 3: you think of yourself, it's more of an internal feeling
Speaker 3: of who you are. That is what continues to exist.
Speaker 3: But I said a very simple question, I said how
Speaker 3: many spirits are with me? And a gentleman came back
Speaker 3: and said three hundred, and I said three hundred, and
Speaker 3: then he said, yeah, she passed go, which I think
Speaker 3: monopoly was two hundred, but I got his point. But
Speaker 3: then I said, did you say three hundred? And the
Speaker 3: response came back, what is that the wrong answer? Like
Speaker 3: he was almost making fun of me. You asked me,
Speaker 3: I told you, and it was like a comical response
Speaker 3: of wait, why are you asking me again? Did I
Speaker 3: give you the wrong answer? But the whole you, as
Speaker 3: you feel yourself now is what you're going to be
Speaker 3: on the other side, and without a doubt exists, or
Speaker 3: there would be no way for us to be getting
Speaker 3: these answers. And back to your skeptic question. We have
Speaker 3: no radio. It cannot pick up walkie talkies, statellite signals,
Speaker 3: cell phone signals. It has absolutely no ability to interpret
Speaker 3: any signal floating in the airways at all into voice.
Speaker 3: It's a white noise generator, that's it. It produces white
Speaker 3: noise to be able to ask a question. We don't
Speaker 3: use mics, We don't use anything. I'm speaking like I'm
Speaker 3: speaking now minus the mics on both sides of me.
Speaker 3: But then I get a response that answers my question
Speaker 3: with timing and relevance to the question asked, and intelligence
Speaker 3: that should not be occurring. Science needs to look at
Speaker 3: this people who study consciousness need to look at this.
Speaker 3: People who do things like sonia. If we can connect
Speaker 3: this method with their method, in the next ten, fifteen,
Speaker 3: twenty years, we might have cell phones with video imagery
Speaker 3: to the other side or the afterlife. All of this
Speaker 3: as possible, and people have predicted this for as long
Speaker 3: as people searched what happens after death. They said technology
Speaker 3: will help bridge that gap, and it is. But like
Speaker 3: I said before, technology is only part of it. The
Speaker 3: person operating at your feeling and wanting to believe it
Speaker 3: to be true is what will bring forth the evidence
Speaker 3: to prove to you that this happens and does exist.
Speaker 4: Tony, this is very exciting, very exciting conversation with our
Speaker 4: time left. Is there anything else you want to share
Speaker 4: or questions I should have asked you that I didn't
Speaker 4: know to ask you.
Speaker 3: No, you've covered some great stuff. If anyone's interested in
Speaker 3: checking this out in person, We've got a variety of events.
Speaker 3: We're going to be in Halifax, Canada, November first in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: Right, somebody's going to be listening this twenty thirty. They're
Speaker 4: going to go, oh, what's happening? Go to the website.
Speaker 3: We will once we research static on three point zero
Speaker 3: the bit more make sure it's functioning as we plan
Speaker 3: it to be doing group sessions again and those will
Speaker 3: be around. And the more attention this gets, the more
Speaker 3: places we'll get to show it do live demonstrations, So
Speaker 3: definitely check that out. The future of this is absolutely incredible.
Speaker 3: It's something that can't be ignored anymore. That the evidence
Speaker 3: is so strong that this is going to change worlds views,
Speaker 3: This is going to change use of the afterlife and hopefully,
Speaker 3: like you said, bring comfort to those grieving the passing
Speaker 3: of a loved one because you did not lose them.
Speaker 3: They are still there. And one of the other very
Speaker 3: important things is that even with technology such as staticcom
Speaker 3: it is great to be able to reach out and
Speaker 3: communicate to a loved one who has passed over. But
Speaker 3: the one thing we always say, and the most important thing,
Speaker 3: is express that to your loved ones here and now
Speaker 3: while they are still here, because once that passing happens,
Speaker 3: there's a waiting game before it's going to happen again.
Speaker 3: So let them know that you love them, that you
Speaker 3: missed them, that you care for them today and now.
Speaker 4: Beautiful words beautiful words, Tony, thank you so much for
Speaker 4: being our guest today.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having this was an absolute pleasure.
Speaker 4: It was a pleasure for sure.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: I mentioned earlier that great inventor Thomas Edison was creating
Speaker 4: a device to also contact the afterlife. In fact, in
Speaker 4: October of nineteen twenty, Edison announced that he was working
Speaker 4: on this new machine that would allow people to talk
Speaker 4: to the dead. Naturally, people were optimistic. After all, this
Speaker 4: was the man who decades earlier invented the light bulb
Speaker 4: was able to first record and playback the human voice.
Speaker 4: He also invented capturing motion pictures, along with many other
Speaker 4: great inventions. In Edison's word, he said, I am inclined
Speaker 4: to believe that our personnel hereafter we'll be able to
Speaker 4: affect matter. If this reasoning be correct, then if we
Speaker 4: can evolve an instrument so delicate as to be affected
Speaker 4: or manipulated by our personality as it survives in the
Speaker 4: next life, such as an instrument when made available it
Speaker 4: ought to record something. He also added, should he succeed,
Speaker 4: the first spirits to take advantage of the device would
Speaker 4: likely be telegraphers or scientists, or anyone else with experience
Speaker 4: in the use of delicate instruments and electric currents. If
Speaker 4: you've watched the movie we filmed about researcher Sonia Ranaldi,
Speaker 4: her team on the other side are scientists. We'll be
Speaker 4: doing a zoom presentation with Sonia Ronaldi mid March of
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five on her latest experiments. After that date,
Speaker 4: we will have the video replay available for you at
Speaker 4: weedotdie dot com. Just click on the store page and
Speaker 4: while you're there you'll find other upcoming great things, including
Speaker 4: our free Sunday gathering with medium demonstration included medium classes,
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Speaker 4: Enter your name and email address at the bottom you'll
Speaker 4: get a copy of my book. Plus, if you're interested
Speaker 4: in instrumental transcommunication, there could just be something very special
Speaker 4: you'll want to see. I hope our time together today
Speaker 4: has given you more confidence that we survive physical death
Speaker 4: and we will see our loved ones again. I'm Sandra Champlain.
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