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Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast DAM paranormal

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Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for another episode of Shades

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Speaker 1: of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain.

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Speaker 3: depending on the subject matter and your needs. Hi.

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Speaker 4: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been

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Speaker 4: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.

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Speaker 4: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know

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Speaker 4: that our loved ones have survived physical debt, and so

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Speaker 4: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. It's been

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Speaker 4: a while since we talked about capturing voices and images

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Speaker 4: of the afterlife, so we're going to talk about voices today.

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Speaker 4: But before we begin, I want to make sure if

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Speaker 4: you have not already signed up at We Don't Die

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Speaker 4: dot com. At the bottom of the page, there's lots

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Speaker 4: of free goodies for you, including a copy of my

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Speaker 4: book and a list so you can search past shades

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Speaker 4: of the Afterlife episodes, especially if you are interested in

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Speaker 4: what we're going to be talking about today, which is

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Speaker 4: instrumental trance communication. You may remember Sonia Ronaldi, who is

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Speaker 4: top at the list of capturing voices and images, and

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Speaker 4: you may have seen the film we produced a few

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Speaker 4: years ago. In fact, she'll be doing a presentation for

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Speaker 4: our community mid March of twenty twenty five. You can

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Speaker 4: join us live, or if you're listening to this in

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Speaker 4: the future, there will be a replay atweedodie dot com.

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Speaker 4: This past week, I had an extraordinary conversation with Tony Rathman.

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Speaker 4: He and his wife created something called staticcom to talk

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Speaker 4: to the afterlife in real time. What a fascinating conversation.

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Speaker 4: You can find out more about staticcom and the work

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Speaker 4: at Entity Voices dot com, or simply go to YouTube

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Speaker 4: and search staticcom. Let's meet Tony.

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Speaker 2: Believe it or not.

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Speaker 3: I didn't believe any of this. Fifteen years ago when

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Speaker 3: ghost hunting shows started coming out. My wife started to

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Speaker 3: to see this, you'll love it. I couldn't last a

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Speaker 3: minute and I'd get up and I'd walk away, and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, come on, this isn't real, this is television.

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Speaker 3: Part of it was because my father was a physics professor,

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Speaker 3: why is the skyblue, He'd say things like, well, there's

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Speaker 3: growing up. So then one Valentine's Day in twenty ten,

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Speaker 3: I didn't believe it. I didn't think any of it

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Speaker 4: Incredible. Now I've seen some of your videos, and could

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Speaker 3: they don't have ears. When I speak, I create a

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Speaker 3: That's the thing that was a phenomenal response to get

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Speaker 3: answer would show up on the recording before we even

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of grief happening in the world, and

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Speaker 4: most of my listeners are people who have lost loved ones.

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Speaker 4: I know we're not lost, but that is the expression

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Speaker 4: we use. We have migrated to an unseen world, so

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Speaker 4: we're looking for evidence that our loved ones go on?

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Speaker 4: Have you come to believe that our loved ones go on?

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Speaker 4: Has a staticcom worked with connecting people to their loved

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Speaker 3: Absolutely after life?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? So. One of the first connections was made by

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Speaker 3: response came back Ronnie, which his mother would call him.

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Speaker 3: It's mom, it's Lucy, and Lucy was his grandmother. But

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Speaker 3: get messages from her. We recognized the voice. Her mother

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Speaker 3: and to Golog the voice came through into Golog. She

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Speaker 3: supports the theory that consciousness very well does survive physical

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Speaker 3: death of the body and goes on. I mean, we've

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Speaker 3: had conversations Marchelli Bachi, who was the one who had

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Speaker 3: but back thirty five forty years we got in contact

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Speaker 3: we really want is we want science to take a

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Speaker 3: deeper look at this scientists, because these voices aren't coming

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Speaker 3: take an undetectable signal and make it detectable. That's where

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Speaker 3: these voices are lying. But they are there, which means

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Speaker 4: This is such good news. There's more with Tony when

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Speaker 1: for being here. Now let's get back to more with Sandra.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain

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Speaker 4: and we're listening to Tony Rathman in his creation of

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Speaker 4: staticicom Our loved ones want us to know that they

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Speaker 3: Spirit are constantly looking for ways to communicate, and they

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Speaker 4: This is such good news.

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Speaker 3: That's one of the really fascinating things about staticom is

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Speaker 4: I completely agree. Now, a staticcom something that people can

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Speaker 4: my mind was picking up the sound of the white noise,

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Speaker 4: and within that there were words. Let's take a quick

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Speaker 4: break and we'll be right back with Tony. You're listening

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Speaker 4: to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast

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Speaker 4: to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network.

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Speaker 3: You're right there.

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Speaker 5: There's more Sandra common right out.

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Speaker 3: The best afterlife information you can get.

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Speaker 5: Well, you're a long Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain.

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Speaker 5: Hey everyone, it's producer Tom of Coast to Coast, A

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Speaker 5: M and more Sandra starts right now.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain,

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Speaker 4: and we're talking to Tony Raffman, co creator of staticcom

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Speaker 4: to hear voices live time from loved ones in the afterlife.

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Speaker 4: There's something Tony said just before the break that bears

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Speaker 4: repeating that they can hear us no matter if we

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Speaker 4: can hear them or not. Let's play that again and continue.

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Speaker 3: What I can tell you from fifteen years of research

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Speaker 3: is they can hear you regardless of whether you can

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Speaker 3: hear them or not. So if you say to them,

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Speaker 3: good morning, I really miss you, I hope you're having

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Speaker 3: a pleasant day, they heard you. And we know that

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Speaker 3: because we've had them repeat things to us that we

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Speaker 3: said without any equipment, without any devices, and then we'll go, hey,

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Speaker 3: I made a certain statement on sucking such day, send

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Speaker 3: it to you. What was it that I said? And

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Speaker 3: boom through the machine, they'll repeat the statement I said

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Speaker 3: three or four days.

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Speaker 4: Prior, my goodness, And it is like learning a new

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Speaker 4: language to an extent. I know, once I got the

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Speaker 4: hang of EVPs and I started getting communication and trusting,

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Speaker 4: I would go back to my original recordings and there

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Speaker 4: would be words on them. So I know for myself,

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Speaker 4: my mind was picking up the sound of the white

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Speaker 4: noise within that there were words. So I think with

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Speaker 4: people to have that patience and to trust, and also

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Speaker 4: to be able to trust your instinct, because like you said,

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Speaker 4: they can hear us, but we may not be able

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Speaker 4: to hear them. Doesn't mean they're not talking.

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Speaker 3: Correct, That is absolutely correct. You know people always used

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Speaker 3: to say, well, you know what do you think the

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Speaker 3: biggest barrier is between the living and the dead. The

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Speaker 3: simple barrier is the human body. Our site is limited

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Speaker 3: to visual sight only. We can't see infra red full spectrum.

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Speaker 3: There are a variety of other visual spectrums that the

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Speaker 3: human eye can't see. Our hearing is limited to twenty

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Speaker 3: herds to twenty killer hurts. There's some variety ultrasound, all

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Speaker 3: sorts of other sound frequencies that the human air can't hear.

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Speaker 3: So it's almost as if when you're alive and learning

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Speaker 3: and growing, you're meant to be set rated. But due

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Speaker 3: to technology, due to open mindedness and the ability to

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Speaker 3: accept dreams, images, other information that comes to you, you

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Speaker 3: can break that boundary down. But you're absolutely right. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they are there, they are watching, they are keeping an

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Speaker 3: eye on you, and with devices such as static it's

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Speaker 3: super exciting because science, even today, even with the way

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Speaker 3: that it's expanded, and they're starting to say we believe

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Speaker 3: consciousness might survive death. Well not might. When I can

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Speaker 3: ask a question with no mics, no nothing but my

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Speaker 3: own human voice standing in the middle of my house

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Speaker 3: and get a response that answers my question to a

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Speaker 3: tee from somebody knock in the house. That's pretty good

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Speaker 3: indication that consciousness very well survives death, that survived as well.

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Speaker 3: We one time ask for a lost dog passed away

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Speaker 3: and sure enough that came through from a friend of ours.

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Speaker 3: When he asked the question, said the dog's name, if

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Speaker 3: you're there, bark for me. Sure enough, bar came right through.

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Speaker 3: So petsv souls as well in those continue.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And the research I've done on near death experiences

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Speaker 4: and the vertical information and simply put, that is things

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Speaker 4: that people have witnessed while their bodies lying there dead

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Speaker 4: and they can't hear, they can't see, and they've floated

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Speaker 4: up above the hospital. One of my favorite stories is

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Speaker 4: somebody saw read high heeled shoe up there and they're like, well,

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Speaker 4: that can't be And somebody ran up to the roof

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Speaker 4: and on the top of the hospital is that shoe?

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Speaker 4: You know, there is so much evidence, but we all

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Speaker 4: have a big piece of us Tony that is skeptical.

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Speaker 4: How do we trust and just kind of set that

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Speaker 4: skeptical mind to the side for a little while.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's not easy to do and for a lot

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Speaker 3: of people until it happens to them. Like I said,

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Speaker 3: I was completely skeptic of all of this, didn't think

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Speaker 3: it was real, didn't think it existed, and I grew

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Speaker 3: up that way for thirty years. But then when it

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Speaker 3: started happening to me, it was that personalization. One of

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Speaker 3: the first EVPs I ever got. I asked for the

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Speaker 3: name or whoever was speaking to me, and she gave

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Speaker 3: her name, and that was so mind blowing to me.

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Speaker 3: And then I'd go back and I'd say her name, Hey,

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Speaker 3: are you there? And she'd respond, And this was just

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Speaker 3: EVP at the time, but it was that personalized encounter

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Speaker 3: of this is real, this exists. There's so much more

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Speaker 3: to life than what we know or what science knows.

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Speaker 3: And science doesn't explain reality or life. They explain how

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Speaker 3: things function, they explain how behaviors predictable, and what they

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Speaker 3: expect to happen, but they don't tell you what life

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Speaker 3: is or what it's about or how it exists. So

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Speaker 3: all of those doors are open. So when you talk

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Speaker 3: about out the adventure of diving into a real treasure

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Speaker 3: haunt of information, the afterlife is it And once you

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Speaker 3: start to go down that road and get information that

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Speaker 3: supports what you're thinking. It's fascinating and it just keeps

534
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 3: pushing you along to find out more, dive in deeper

535
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Speaker 3: and see how far you can take it and what

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Speaker 3: information you can receive from it, And that to me

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Speaker 3: is absolutely fascinating and mind blowing. I agree.

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Speaker 4: I'm now twenty seven to twenty eight years into researching

539
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Speaker 4: the afterlife. It is an onion that you just peel

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Speaker 4: into the center and it never ends, and it's the

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Speaker 4: sweetest onion, it really is, and it has such an

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Speaker 4: impact on not only help through grief, but how we

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Speaker 4: live life. When we start realizing that we're not just

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Speaker 4: less and bone, then it's like, well, who am I?

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Speaker 4: What is my life for? How do we make the

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Speaker 4: most of being here on earth? Do you have any

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Speaker 4: thoughts on who we are as people and why we're

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Speaker 4: here and get the biggest bang for the buck being human?

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Speaker 4: Any thoughts on that, Tony?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely. We follow a theory called analytic idealism, which

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Speaker 3: basically says that the one ontological primitive and what that

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Speaker 3: basically means is the one standard building block in life

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Speaker 3: is consciousness. And we believe that to be universal consciousness,

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Speaker 3: and life here on the planet when we're embodied, is

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Speaker 3: a learning experience. If universal consciousness is one mind and

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Speaker 3: we're all part of that one mind, that mind can't

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Speaker 3: learn itself or can't grow itself. So when we come

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Speaker 3: back and experience sixty ninety years of life or hopefully more,

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Speaker 3: that teaches universal consciousness. And when we pass back over

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Speaker 3: everything that we've learned, everything that we now understand from

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Speaker 3: that life gets transferred back to universal consciousness and allows

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Speaker 3: universal consciousness to grow. The thing about life, though, is

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Speaker 3: that it's entirely subjected to you and you alone. We

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Speaker 3: can't read other people's minds, we can't see through their eyes,

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Speaker 3: we can't hear through their ears, and every piece of

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Speaker 3: life is an experience. It's mental more than physical. When

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Speaker 3: something happens, or we see something and let's say it's

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Speaker 3: a rock, science comes along. It says, okay, the rock

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Speaker 3: is forty eight pounds and it's twelve inches by fifty inches,

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Speaker 3: and science has kind of switched it and made the

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Speaker 3: description of it or the measuring of it the thing.

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Speaker 3: The rock is not the measurements. You can't measure something

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Speaker 3: unless you've perceived it. First, and that perception comes from consciousness.

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Speaker 3: So that's what makes consciousness the ontological primitive or the

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Speaker 3: basic building block, and all of life is subjective to

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Speaker 3: you and you alone. You can have similar experiences with

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Speaker 3: somebody else. They can say okay, yeah, I saw that too,

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Speaker 3: or I experienced which you experienced. But again you can't

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Speaker 3: compare the two because your human body senses are only

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Speaker 3: available to you, and every person on the planet is

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Speaker 3: like that. For consciousness or people not embodied anymore, that's

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Speaker 3: not the case. They're sharing knowledge. That is why we

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Speaker 3: can ask one spirit any question and they can pull

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Speaker 3: back the answer for us, which is absolutely amazing to us.

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Speaker 3: We can be talking only to one spirit and we

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Speaker 3: can say, well, you know, what's Marcello Bocci doing. Oh,

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Speaker 3: he's doing this because they're all connected, and that to

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Speaker 3: me is one of the fascinating things. But you know,

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Speaker 3: for people who are grieving from a lost loved one,

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Speaker 3: nothing's going to make that easier from a perspective of

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Speaker 3: that loss is there and it seems permanent because they

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Speaker 3: were embodied, they were in front of you. You could

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Speaker 3: talk to them. They are still there, they are still around.

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Speaker 3: You haven't lost them. You will never lose them, and

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Speaker 3: they will be there in the future again in a

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Speaker 3: situation where you can communicate, enjoy their presence like you

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Speaker 3: did here, and probably even more so because you'll be

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Speaker 3: lifted from the pressures of day to day life, the stresses.

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Speaker 3: But there is no true loss in life because it continues.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I heard once a great quote that our life

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Speaker 4: is just a thread of the fabric.

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Speaker 3: Of our soul.

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Speaker 4: This is just a little blip, and we humans buy

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Speaker 4: into it that this is the reality. And I think

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Speaker 4: for me, one of the ways that we can disarm

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Speaker 4: that skeptical mind is to start viewing life as everything

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Speaker 4: is a miracle. Down to the Wanton level, all we

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Speaker 4: are is vibrating energy, invisible vibrating energy.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: So when we start to get down to that, we're

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Speaker 4: a mighty realistic illusion, right we are. But to start

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Speaker 4: questioning that, it starts opening up that this other stuff

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Speaker 4: can be possible and is possible.

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Speaker 3: You are absolutely correct. And Nikola Tesla said way back,

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Speaker 3: you know, if you want to understand the universe, think

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Speaker 3: in terms of energy, frequency and vibration. And the more

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Speaker 3: we look into that and the more we understand how

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Speaker 3: it functions. I mean, people come up to us all

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Speaker 3: the time and say, how are you getting a voice?

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Speaker 3: If they have no vocal cords? How is that even possible? Well,

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Speaker 3: if you break down how the vocals work, we create

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Speaker 3: a sound weight which consists of energy, frequency, and vibration.

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Speaker 3: That's how sound is made. And the great example of

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Speaker 3: that is plucking a entire strength. The energy is in

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Speaker 3: your finger plucking it, then it vibrates and produces sound

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Speaker 3: through the energy and the vibration of it. If a

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Speaker 3: spirit or consciousness is energy, frequency and vibration, then producing

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Speaker 3: vocals would be no concerning whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: Well, take our break now. But Tony and his wife

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Speaker 4: aren't the first people to go after afterlife communication. Some

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Speaker 4: of the greatest minds were interested in it, including Thomas Edison.

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Speaker 4: More about that in our next segment. Let's head off

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Speaker 4: to the break and we will be right back with

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Speaker 4: more of Tony Rathman and Staticicom. You're listening to Shades

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Speaker 1: right there. That's Coast Tocoastdam dot com. Coast to Coastdam

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Speaker 1: dot com.

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Speaker 6: Hey everyone, it's the Wizard of Weird Joshua P. Warren

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Speaker 6: And now here's more Shades of the Afterlife.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain

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Speaker 4: and you're hearing the story of staticicom, a device that

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Speaker 4: allows two way conversation from the afterlife. You can find

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Speaker 4: out more about it at Entityvoices dot com or just

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Speaker 4: go to YouTube and search staticicom. Let's continue with Tony Rathman.

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Speaker 3: People come up to us all the time and say,

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Speaker 3: how are you getting a voice if they have no

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Speaker 3: vocal cords? How is that even possible? Well, if you

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Speaker 3: break down how the vocals work, we create a sound weight,

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Speaker 3: which consists of energy, frequency, and vibration. That's how sound

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Speaker 3: is made. And the great example of that is plucking

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Speaker 3: an entire string. The energy is in your finger plucking it,

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Speaker 3: then it vibrates and produces sound through the energy and

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Speaker 3: the vibration of it. If a spirit or consciousness is energy,

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Speaker 3: frequency and vibration, then producing vocals would be no concern whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: Tony, this morning, I was having coffee looking outside, and

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Speaker 4: this beautiful bird just went sailing by, and I was

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Speaker 4: thinking about my two else, Wilbur and Orville. Right, and

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Speaker 4: how way back these two guys have built bicycles, had

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Speaker 4: a dream, and look.

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Speaker 3: Where we are now.

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Speaker 4: All of the world functions on air travel, right, So

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Speaker 4: here we are Orville and Wilbur. Well, it's Tony and

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Speaker 4: Suri is how you pronounce your wife's name, Surrey correct

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Speaker 4: Suri and others that are working on it. There's great minds.

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Speaker 4: But what's possible with this? And then also, I know

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Speaker 4: in an email you spoke about maybe someday tying in

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Speaker 4: the visuals too. What's possible for mankind?

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Speaker 3: All boundaries we probably even haven't been able to even

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Speaker 3: reach yet knowing because we don't know where the boundaries

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Speaker 3: of this technology is, but you're absolutely right tying it

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Speaker 3: into Sonya's visual where not only can you get a

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Speaker 3: picture of them, but you can hear them speak as well.

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Speaker 3: A combination of those two would be absolutely fascinating. The

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Speaker 3: information that comes through staticom. We've been now experimenting and

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Speaker 3: researching with it for the last three or four years.

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Speaker 3: Any piece of information that we can get that we

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Speaker 3: can then go research and find out is this factual?

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Speaker 3: Is it accurate? About ninety four percent of everything that

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Speaker 3: we were able to research is in fact the truth.

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Speaker 3: There's a clip out on both YouTube Facebook that my

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Speaker 3: wife wasn't feeling well and I had staticom running and

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Speaker 3: she's like, Oh, I'm not feeling alarm in pain. I

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Speaker 3: literally said, spirits, is my wife getting sick? Answer was

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Speaker 3: it's possible. I said, what should she take? And then

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Speaker 3: this word came through. I didn't know the word, but

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Speaker 3: I ended up looking it up after the word was Perkadan.

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Speaker 3: Did not know what that was. Perkadan is a prescription

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Speaker 3: strength pain reliever which you need a prescription for. But

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Speaker 3: I didn't even know what the word was, so I

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Speaker 3: had to go look it up. But sure enough it

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Speaker 3: was a prescription drug for pain and for them to

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Speaker 3: answer that. But knowing that that information we can get

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Speaker 3: without knowing, without predetermining what's going to be said. One

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Speaker 3: of the other future that we're looking into to use

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Speaker 3: staticcom for is cold cases, because when you talk about

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Speaker 3: grief and you talk about a family missing a family member,

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Speaker 3: not knowing where they are, not knowing what happened, that

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Speaker 3: kind of grief doubles it because you're already missing them,

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Speaker 3: they're already gone. But to be able to ask spirits

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Speaker 3: and through the research, we know that they will give

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Speaker 3: us information from the past. They will not give us

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Speaker 3: information future related. Even if I say something as simple

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Speaker 3: as I have a choice, should I do this or

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Speaker 3: should I do that? They won't answer why because we

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Speaker 3: believe they can't affect the life we were put here

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Speaker 3: to live and to learn from. But past they will answer,

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Speaker 3: and we've been researching it. We are getting responses we want.

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Speaker 3: But to be able to help on cold cases for

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Speaker 3: people grieving about a lost love one, not knowing what happened,

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Speaker 3: where they are, what occurred, this may be a great

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Speaker 3: help in able to solve cold cases that have been

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Speaker 3: mysteries since the forties fifties or.

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Speaker 4: Who knows what good news that is and never even

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Speaker 4: thought of that, and the futures not yet written. You know,

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Speaker 4: we have free will when we're here. I think we

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Speaker 4: come onto this planet to do certain things and learn,

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Speaker 4: and there's different opportunities that we have. And so I'm

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Speaker 4: not one hundred percent bought into that, you know the

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Speaker 4: future is written, because that would take the fun out

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Speaker 4: of life, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 3: I think I agree, And we were given free will

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Speaker 3: for a reason. We keep it. On the other side,

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Speaker 3: I can tell you that just by the answers that

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Speaker 3: we get, like for example, and not only is this

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Speaker 3: an example of free will, but your sense of humor

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Speaker 3: is still there. The person that you view yourself almost

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Speaker 3: as a mirror or a shadow of yourself. The human

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Speaker 3: body is what we look like to others, but when

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Speaker 3: you think of yourself, it's more of an internal feeling

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Speaker 3: of who you are. That is what continues to exist.

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Speaker 3: But I said a very simple question, I said how

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Speaker 3: many spirits are with me? And a gentleman came back

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Speaker 3: and said three hundred, and I said three hundred, and

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Speaker 3: then he said, yeah, she passed go, which I think

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Speaker 3: monopoly was two hundred, but I got his point. But

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Speaker 3: then I said, did you say three hundred? And the

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Speaker 3: response came back, what is that the wrong answer? Like

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Speaker 3: he was almost making fun of me. You asked me,

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Speaker 3: I told you, and it was like a comical response

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Speaker 3: of wait, why are you asking me again? Did I

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Speaker 3: give you the wrong answer? But the whole you, as

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Speaker 3: you feel yourself now is what you're going to be

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Speaker 3: on the other side, and without a doubt exists, or

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Speaker 3: there would be no way for us to be getting

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Speaker 3: these answers. And back to your skeptic question. We have

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Speaker 3: no radio. It cannot pick up walkie talkies, statellite signals,

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Speaker 3: cell phone signals. It has absolutely no ability to interpret

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Speaker 3: any signal floating in the airways at all into voice.

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Speaker 3: It's a white noise generator, that's it. It produces white

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Speaker 3: noise to be able to ask a question. We don't

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Speaker 3: use mics, We don't use anything. I'm speaking like I'm

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Speaker 3: speaking now minus the mics on both sides of me.

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Speaker 3: But then I get a response that answers my question

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Speaker 3: with timing and relevance to the question asked, and intelligence

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Speaker 3: that should not be occurring. Science needs to look at

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Speaker 3: this people who study consciousness need to look at this.

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Speaker 3: People who do things like sonia. If we can connect

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Speaker 3: this method with their method, in the next ten, fifteen,

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Speaker 3: twenty years, we might have cell phones with video imagery

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Speaker 3: to the other side or the afterlife. All of this

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Speaker 3: as possible, and people have predicted this for as long

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Speaker 3: as people searched what happens after death. They said technology

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Speaker 3: will help bridge that gap, and it is. But like

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Speaker 3: I said before, technology is only part of it. The

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Speaker 3: person operating at your feeling and wanting to believe it

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00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 3: to be true is what will bring forth the evidence

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Speaker 3: to prove to you that this happens and does exist.

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Speaker 4: Tony, this is very exciting, very exciting conversation with our

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Speaker 4: time left. Is there anything else you want to share

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Speaker 4: or questions I should have asked you that I didn't

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Speaker 4: know to ask you.

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Speaker 3: No, you've covered some great stuff. If anyone's interested in

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Speaker 3: checking this out in person, We've got a variety of events.

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Speaker 3: We're going to be in Halifax, Canada, November first in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: Right, somebody's going to be listening this twenty thirty. They're

788
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Speaker 4: going to go, oh, what's happening? Go to the website.

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Speaker 3: We will once we research static on three point zero

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Speaker 3: the bit more make sure it's functioning as we plan

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Speaker 3: it to be doing group sessions again and those will

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00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 3: be around. And the more attention this gets, the more

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Speaker 3: places we'll get to show it do live demonstrations, So

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Speaker 3: definitely check that out. The future of this is absolutely incredible.

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Speaker 3: It's something that can't be ignored anymore. That the evidence

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00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 3: is so strong that this is going to change worlds views,

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Speaker 3: This is going to change use of the afterlife and hopefully,

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Speaker 3: like you said, bring comfort to those grieving the passing

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Speaker 3: of a loved one because you did not lose them.

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Speaker 3: They are still there. And one of the other very

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Speaker 3: important things is that even with technology such as staticcom

802
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 3: it is great to be able to reach out and

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Speaker 3: communicate to a loved one who has passed over. But

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Speaker 3: the one thing we always say, and the most important thing,

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Speaker 3: is express that to your loved ones here and now

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Speaker 3: while they are still here, because once that passing happens,

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Speaker 3: there's a waiting game before it's going to happen again.

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Speaker 3: So let them know that you love them, that you

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Speaker 3: missed them, that you care for them today and now.

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Speaker 4: Beautiful words beautiful words, Tony, thank you so much for

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Speaker 4: being our guest today.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having this was an absolute pleasure.

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Speaker 4: It was a pleasure for sure.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: I mentioned earlier that great inventor Thomas Edison was creating

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Speaker 4: a device to also contact the afterlife. In fact, in

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Speaker 4: October of nineteen twenty, Edison announced that he was working

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Speaker 4: on this new machine that would allow people to talk

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Speaker 4: to the dead. Naturally, people were optimistic. After all, this

820
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Speaker 4: was the man who decades earlier invented the light bulb

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Speaker 4: was able to first record and playback the human voice.

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Speaker 4: He also invented capturing motion pictures, along with many other

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Speaker 4: great inventions. In Edison's word, he said, I am inclined

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Speaker 4: to believe that our personnel hereafter we'll be able to

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Speaker 4: affect matter. If this reasoning be correct, then if we

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Speaker 4: can evolve an instrument so delicate as to be affected

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Speaker 4: or manipulated by our personality as it survives in the

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Speaker 4: next life, such as an instrument when made available it

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Speaker 4: ought to record something. He also added, should he succeed,

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Speaker 4: the first spirits to take advantage of the device would

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Speaker 4: likely be telegraphers or scientists, or anyone else with experience

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Speaker 4: in the use of delicate instruments and electric currents. If

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Speaker 4: you've watched the movie we filmed about researcher Sonia Ranaldi,

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Speaker 4: her team on the other side are scientists. We'll be

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Speaker 4: doing a zoom presentation with Sonia Ronaldi mid March of

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five on her latest experiments. After that date,

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Speaker 4: we will have the video replay available for you at

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Speaker 4: weedotdie dot com. Just click on the store page and

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Speaker 4: while you're there you'll find other upcoming great things, including

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Speaker 4: our free Sunday gathering with medium demonstration included medium classes,

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Speaker 4: join our Facebook group, and so much more. And don't

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Speaker 4: forget on the main page at We Dontdie dot com.

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Speaker 4: Enter your name and email address at the bottom you'll

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Speaker 4: get a copy of my book. Plus, if you're interested

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Speaker 4: in instrumental transcommunication, there could just be something very special

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Speaker 4: you'll want to see. I hope our time together today

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Speaker 4: has given you more confidence that we survive physical death

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Speaker 4: and we will see our loved ones again. I'm Sandra Champlain.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for your valuable time in listening

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