1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Is there joking aside any mild disappointment like this is 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: the cool, this is the annual meeting, like the photos 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: kind of a big deal. 4 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: Well, there's a major disappointments. Why I went't got a 5 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 2: haircut for god six, wouldn't have gotten the haircut if 6 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: it wasn't that damn important. But I win't got the 7 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 2: haircut and then missed it. 8 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls were inside of a 9 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: month to go before the NFL Draft. The twenty twenty 10 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: six edition, and this is an on the road addition, 11 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: an annual meeting and owners meeting addition, as some call 12 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: it live from the Biltmore in Arizona, they were not 13 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: really live because Jason Gibbs, Hello Gibba. By the time, 14 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: the best podcast available, presented by bulls Eye Event Group 15 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: for award winning game day experiences. Visit Bullseye Event Group 16 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: dot com. By the time this post, we won't be live. 17 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: I don't know why I say live. That is like 18 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: such a corny, like fake newscaster reporting live shtick. 19 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 3: That was like a Tom Brokaw. 20 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: I like Tom tom Brokaw. I like it, buddy, Well. 21 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, because my phone is just I keep getting one 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 4: weather alert after another. I guess the end of the 23 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 4: world might be coming while we're taping this podcast seriously, 24 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 4: so like if the building gets taken out, like you'll 25 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 4: have this podcast to remember me. 26 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: Okay, well there is there's kinship with you. Back at 27 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: the Cross Country Mortgage Campus here in Arizona, there was 28 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: a brief sprinkle right around right around noon today, like 29 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: there was there was moisture falling from the sky. The 30 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: people were frightened. 31 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: What is this. I don't know what this is. 32 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. 33 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: I'm so confused. 34 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 4: I am jealous that you're at the biltmore At We 35 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 4: got to stay there in twenty nineteen and it was 36 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 4: pretty awesome. 37 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: Was that? 38 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: A win over the Cardinals in twenty nineteen? Remind me 39 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: we were done after the first Kyler? Which game was that? 40 00:01:54,320 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: I don't reme perto Rico oh oh oh meels came. Oh. 41 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 4: The good news was we got an extra day out 42 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 4: in the desert. 43 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: There you go. 44 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 3: It was either late November early December. 45 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: We were there wasting away in Zaguraville. 46 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 4: A thriving, thriving I remember it was the holiday because 47 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 4: we stumbled upon a Christmas pop up bar. Oh, and 48 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 4: it was a warehouse that you had had no idea 49 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 4: and you'd like there was a certain knock and like 50 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 4: a certain password, and then you came in and literally 51 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 4: it was a football field long party. 52 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: Amazing, amazing. I have not had a chance to see that. 53 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: It's a first world problem that we for the most 54 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: part been confined to the hotel. That's how this thing goes. 55 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: The annual meeting is a really cool event. I know, 56 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: we talked about it a lot on CBD. This is 57 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: where all the coaches can get together and raise a 58 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: glass and talk about things that affect all of their lives. 59 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: Is where all the owners can do the same. We're 60 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: all the city again, others of coaches and owners and 61 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: gms and team presidents and the like can get together 62 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: a family event. There's a big party on Monday night. 63 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: Kids are invited. It is a very cool thing. But 64 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: it is also a time where you get to sit 65 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: down with the coach and the GM for each of 66 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: these teams. Brown's obviously are focus here and really unpack 67 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: free agency and look ahead to the draft and go 68 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: big picture planning stuff. Andrew Berry obviously did not slam 69 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: the door on trading Miles Garrett when he met with 70 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: the media on Sunday. However, after speaking with Jimmy and 71 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: d Haslm one Monday, they were Jimmy was a bit 72 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: more firm with that, and I in no way am 73 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: expecting a Miles Garrett trade. Did we emphatically here? Never never? 74 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: Never know? But I'm telling you I do not in 75 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: any way get that impression. So let's let's let's move 76 00:03:55,120 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: that aside. The Browns proposal to trade draft picks beyond 77 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: three years out. I'll tell you right now, there are 78 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: plenty of people that think it's a good idea. There 79 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: are plenty of people to go, hey, this is a 80 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: cool progressive idea. The NBA does seven, we do three? 81 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: Who cares, Let's do five? Who's it hurting? Like any 82 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: owner that would vote against it? Friendly reminder, you have 83 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: the ability to tell your general manager or a coach, 84 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: don't do the deal. So like if somebody else wants 85 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: to throw his franchise away or burn the house out, 86 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: figuratively speaking, it only betters you, Like, what does it 87 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: matter let them trade away the farm. You still own 88 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: your farm. But hey, they withdrew the proposal, because that's 89 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: how it works. You don't put stuff to vote unless 90 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: you're generally going to get the vote. So that's the 91 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: league business. We could talk about replane flags and all 92 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: that little. 93 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 4: Bit of Max Crosby and the Ravens saying it was 94 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,679 Speaker 4: a slow media cycle and that's why. 95 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not the case. That is not the case. Listen. 96 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: I spoke to one team while we're here, and they 97 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: told a story about a trade that of recent vintage, 98 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: let's put it that way, that they nixed upon receiving 99 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: medicals electronically shared information. It happens, I know, certainly. And 100 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: the aj epinessa instance, the Browns was reported had aj epenessa. 101 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: They've agreed to terms the former Bill is going to sign. 102 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: They were not comfortable reportedly with the physical That was 103 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: after aj came to Cleveland. So like it both can 104 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: be true. What can be done as we kind of 105 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: get off script here to change that. I don't know 106 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: that anything can be done. I really don't. It's you 107 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: just hope that the other guy you're dealing with gives 108 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: you a fair shake. 109 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I look, every team has their own medical team. 110 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 4: It's done, it's buried. We move forward. There was a 111 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 4: lot of news coming out. It's always good this time 112 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 4: of year because you get to hear from the GM, 113 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 4: you get to hear from the coach right after your 114 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 4: first wave of free agency. It's first time that we've 115 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 4: gotten to hear from either one of Andrew Berry or 116 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 4: Todd Mounkin. And then you get to hear from the Hasslings. 117 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 4: And you only really I mean, Jimmy and Dee talk 118 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 4: at this event and they talk at training camp. Yeah, 119 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 4: maybe a couple other select things, but otherwise you can 120 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 4: learn a lot here in the forty eight hours that 121 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: you're in Arizona. 122 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: Let's get Let's get to that because I've been sidetracked 123 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: here already. You mentioned Max Crosby, man, I went down 124 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 1: that road. We just killed two minutes. 125 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: Dude. 126 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the quarterbacks. Deshaun Watson, shoud 127 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: Or Sanders, Dylan Gabriel are all going to get a 128 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: fair shot to with a quarterback job. They said it 129 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: at the combine. I think a lot of people would 130 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: know you don't really mean that, do you know? They 131 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: really do, They really do mean that. We have a 132 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: calendar set now on April seventh, because the Browns are 133 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: one of the ten teams and a new head coach. 134 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: That is when the offseason program will begin. No players 135 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: on the grass, there's no football stuff. Go out there, 136 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: workout whatever. But it's primarily meetings and we should mention 137 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: Andrew learn to be a broadcaster. Todd Munkin will join 138 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: us coming up shortly our exclusive one on one with 139 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: the new head coach of York Cleveland Brown. What will 140 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: he tell the team. I don't know. He doesn't have 141 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: the big speech written yet, but this is the first 142 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: chance for him to say, this is what our vision is, 143 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: and the vision is competition when it comes to every position, 144 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: but specifically the quarterback position. I'm telling you Deshaun Watson 145 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: has a chance. I'm also telling you that if you 146 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: want to infer from Monkin speaking today, maybe just maybe 147 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: should or Sanders might have that first shot at the job, 148 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: because Munkin said the way the season ended, you might 149 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: look at that should or have the job when the 150 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: season ended. However, However, just because one of the quarterbacks 151 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: is the front runner heading into training camp the third 152 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: week of July doesn't mean that quarterback is handed the job. 153 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: You got to go out there and win the job. 154 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it sounds like maybe Unlike in years past, 155 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 4: we'll have a depth chart when we go to training camp. 156 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 4: We'll have an idea of reps and who's going to 157 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 4: get what. I thought it was interesting. I'm going through 158 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 4: my notes here. Love to come out of the spring 159 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 4: with a depth chart. That doesn't mean there's still not competition, 160 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 4: but you have to narrow the reps or at least 161 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 4: balance up the reps of who you anticipate will come 162 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 4: out of the spring certainly in a position to be 163 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 4: the starter. So clearly there's a plan in place where 164 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 4: it's not going to be even reps. It's other guys 165 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 4: are going to have to make up ground if they 166 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 4: want to take over whoever is going to be the 167 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 4: leader in the clubhouse going into. 168 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: This, And I think Munkins point that we need to 169 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: remember is he said competition is not only on the 170 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: field because there's limited reps. There's going to be a 171 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,599 Speaker 1: voluntary MIDI caamp the week of the draft. That is 172 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: news here we could tell you about. But that's voluntary. Again, 173 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: it's not like the middle of June where that's the 174 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: last thing before training camp. Here you can get a 175 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: leg up in the classroom and in areas other than 176 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: on the field, and he would like an idea of 177 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: who that person could be before we get to trade 178 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: a camp. But the once at the training camp, if 179 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: the other guy or one of the other two guys 180 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: goes out there and outperforms the guy that's the presumed 181 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: starter at the end of the summer, that that guy 182 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: gets the job. He also said we're going to see 183 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: probably more of the starters than we're accustomed to seeing. 184 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: That it wasn't the exact way he said it in 185 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: the preseason, but that he is going to play our 186 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: regulars in the preseason, so that is notable as to 187 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: who's going to play where he says they'd prefer Elton Jenkins. 188 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: He would at guard as opposed to center, which leads 189 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: you to believe that Luke Whippler could be coming off 190 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: knee surgery, your center a knee injury. I beg your pardon, 191 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: and it leaves unanswered the Joeltonio question. There is no 192 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: answer yet on the Joel Buttonio question. But I think 193 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: if you follow the tea leaves without getting out ahead 194 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: of anything. You signed three interior O linemen in free agency, 195 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: including Tevin Jenkins. 196 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, no white smoke yet. 197 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: No, we don't. 198 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 4: We don't know what's going on. But I mean this 199 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 4: team continues to move forward. And I thought Todd's stuff 200 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 4: on Elton Jenkins was really good. He's hoping to have 201 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 4: Dewan Jones at Luke Whippler back by the time they 202 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 4: finish up the off season program. I think that's music 203 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 4: to a lot of people's ears. I think you're going 204 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 4: to be pleasantly surprised when you see Dewan Jones. He 205 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 4: has cut a lot of weight, he looks lean, he 206 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 4: looks fast. He's doing He's putting in a lot of 207 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 4: work right now in the offseason. He's been here every 208 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 4: single day. 209 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: How do I know. I walk in the building with 210 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 3: him every day. 211 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I saw him. I saw him the combine 212 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis and I got the same impression as well. 213 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: He was at Everyone was asked is Dewan Jones your 214 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: right tackle or your left tackle? Because we remember he 215 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: started the season at left tackle, but the game in 216 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: which he was injured against the Packers, he had actually 217 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: moved back to right tackle. Mounkin made the point today 218 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: that he thinks if you're a great player, you could 219 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: play either side, not specifically about Dewan, but the question 220 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: was more about the tackles in this draft, because this 221 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: is more of a right tackle draft than a left 222 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: tackle draft. And he said, hey, listen, if you're great, 223 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: you should be able to play both. 224 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it will be fascinating to see. 225 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: I don't know where I mean. I'm not I'm not 226 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 3: the head coach and I'm not a coach. 227 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 4: I just feel like, if you're being signed to your 228 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 4: and your guard, I'm hoping that you're gonna play guard 229 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 4: because that's your position of strength. I think the tackle 230 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 4: situation is interesting to watch because we've seen people adapt 231 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 4: pretty easily at making a right tackle to left tackle 232 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 4: or vice versa jump. We've also seen some guys struggle 233 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 4: with that. 234 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: We have and I'm I'm bullish on Luke Whipler. 235 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: I love it. 236 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: It's good to have depth and good to have options. 237 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: I think we have fixated so much on who the 238 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: starting five is this offseason, knowing you need ten to eleven. 239 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: It's not about the starting five. The depth has been 240 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: tested on this O line and many A lines around 241 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: the league constantly the last couple of years. Consistency and 242 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: depth for me is the most important thing. Go back 243 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: to Sunday, go ahead, you know, and that's you know, to. 244 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 3: Play off of that. I mean, you don't go. 245 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 4: No one's trading even average offensive lineman during the season. 246 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 4: Like everybody holds onto their offensive linemen. So you got 247 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 4: to get them now. You got to get them via 248 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 4: trade before things start. Once you have your guys in place, 249 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 4: it's very hard to go get guys. Yeah, are there 250 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 4: guys on the waiver wire. Sure, and maybe one or 251 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 4: two of them work out. We've seen it happen, but 252 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 4: it's tough to get acclimated and get them intertwined into 253 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 4: the monk and process. 254 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm going back here, Gibbe, and I'm looking at my 255 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: notes from Andrew Berry on Sunday, and he made the point, 256 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: and I haven't crossed this, but you know, he was 257 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: spitballing as to the exact number, but he said twenty 258 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: three or twenty four teams played less than fifty or 259 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: got less than fifty percent of their snaps of the 260 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: own line last year from their starting five, including the Browns. 261 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: So I mean three quarters of the league got less 262 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: than fifty percent starting snaps from what they view as 263 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: their starting five line. 264 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 4: You need depth on the O line. You need depth 265 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 4: on the D line, and frankly, you need death at corner. 266 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 4: Those are those are the big positions. 267 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: So let's talk about that. Because on Sunday, Andrew Barry 268 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: was asked why no MJ Emerson back? And he was 269 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: diplomatic with his answer, as he always was. I got 270 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: the impression that MJ would like starter money. They have 271 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: two starters in Denzel Ward and Entyson Campbell, and those 272 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: guys are your starters. He's coming off, MJ is and 273 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: I want to I would love to see MJ come 274 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: back coming off a legitimate serious injury in training camp. 275 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: Obviously it would be exactly one year when we get 276 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: to training camp from that Achilles injury. It's a tough 277 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: injury to come back as a corner from. Obviously, there's 278 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: plenty of opportunity to do it. Plenty of guys have 279 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: done it. But I got the impression, well, what's the 280 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: number if you're not going to be our number one 281 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: or our number two corner. MJ traditionally hasn't played inside. 282 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: Right now, Miles Harden's playing inside. You need depth, But 283 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: where do you put him at? What price? Is there 284 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: number that can make everyone happy? Perhaps? But I think 285 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: MJ has earned the right to see if there is 286 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: a starting job out there. I don't know about starting 287 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: salary out there at this point on the calendar, but 288 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: you know, I hope he can find it. Maybe the 289 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: door is still open. I never say never until he 290 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: signs something around. Of course, I'm hoping. I'm hoping they 291 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: can get him back. 292 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 4: And I think again, it's just it's depth, and you've 293 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 4: got to have death at the corner position, especially on 294 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 4: the outside. You can figure out the nickel. It's tough 295 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 4: to replace a nickel, but Denzel goes down and and 296 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 4: we've seen Denzel go down and miss some time. Last year, 297 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 4: Tyson Campbell played really well, probably at a Pro Bowl level, 298 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 4: if not, maybe some All Pro consideration that should have 299 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 4: been given to the young man. 300 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: But he made it through. 301 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 4: But it's a long season and you need depth that 302 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 4: outside corner and frankly inside corners. 303 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, real quick before we get to Todd Monk 304 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: and I want to go through my notes as as 305 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: as quickly and efficiently as I can. From owners Jimmy 306 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: and d Haslam. Speaking on Monday, Jimmy has them started 307 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: by saying, basically, I feel the fans pain, it's not 308 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: fun to watch. The last two years have not been acceptable. 309 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: Got to be better, and they believe that Todd Monkin 310 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: can be the guy. He's direct you no question where 311 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: he stands with anyone. He's put together a very good staff. 312 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: Jimmy Hasim said he thinks that Monkin is maybe starting 313 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: in a position that's better than many first year head 314 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: coaches because of the fact that the defensive staff has 315 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: been held over the majority of it, obviously, and that 316 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: everyone really likes his offensive staff that he has brought in. 317 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: Many of these guys have been Baltimore guys as well. 318 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy Hasam said that Deshaun is going to get a 319 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: fresh start with an offensive minded quarterback and hopefully he 320 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: has a great chance to get back to form, and 321 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: that Deshaun with only nineteen games over the length of 322 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: his contract as a Brown, it's not for lack of effort. 323 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: He has been ravaged by injuries. As for Miles Garrett, 324 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: Jimmy Hasam said, Miles has been quote an integral part 325 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: of the Cleveland Browns, and as I said earlier, I 326 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: did not get any impression at all at all that 327 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: he would like to see Miles. Garrett traded Miles is 328 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: going to be here. 329 00:16:58,720 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 3: Yeah he's not. 330 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 4: I mean Ab was pretty adamant about it on Sunday, 331 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 4: and Jimmy Haslam and de Haslam followed up on Monday 332 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 4: and basically echoed those statements. 333 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: Now, let's get Gibbe to the most important conversation here 334 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: at the annual meeting, and that is what a handsome 335 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: haircut Todd Munkin has. It's the best podcast available with 336 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: the best coach available right here. First time I get 337 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: to interview Todd Monkins. So I'm excited for that. And 338 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to start with something here that may sound awkward, 339 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: but roll with me. That's good looking haircut. 340 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 2: Fantastic haircut, fortunately led me miss the head coach's picture, 341 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 2: but does looked pretty good. 342 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: So let's explain that the head coach's picture was scheduled 343 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: for noon high noon. We all saw it on the agenda. 344 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: They hand out the schedule noon on Monday. So you decided, 345 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: was it your decision, my decision to get the haircut? 346 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: You want to look good for the picture, and then they. 347 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 2: Moved the picture up. So I guess that's the price 348 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: of missing a meeting where most everybody was in the 349 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: meeting button me so, but I did get a nice 350 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: haircut out of it. 351 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: You walked out of there and then you run into somebody. 352 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 2: I was ready to go. I was don't we have 353 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 2: to go to the picture, and they said no, we 354 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: just took it twenty minutes ago. 355 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: So all right, so you're not the only one. Sean 356 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: McVay missed it as well. 357 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 2: Now it worked out well that there were a couple 358 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: of us. 359 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: Is there joking aside any mild disappointment, like this is 360 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: the cool this is the annual meeting, like the photos 361 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: kind of a big deal. 362 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 2: No, there's a major Disappointment's why I went't got a haircut, 363 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: for God's six, wouldn't have gotten the haircut if it 364 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 2: wasn't that damn important. But I went't got the haircut, 365 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: and then missed it. 366 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: What were you gonna wear? Do you have like the 367 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: outfit picked out as well? 368 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 2: Oh? I had the right outfit on. I had the 369 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: outfit on and the haircut just but it is twenty 370 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 2: twenty six. How to be able to somehow find a 371 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 2: way to put me in that picture? 372 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: There was there was an ai thing. 373 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: I think we spent an hour and a half on AI. 374 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: I mean, for God's sakes, how cool it is and 375 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 2: how forward thinking it is? Wh wh why can't they 376 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: just put my picture in there? 377 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: Well, good looking haircut aside? What has this experience been like? 378 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: You're part of the fraternity. There is a fraternity element 379 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,239 Speaker 1: certainly to this event among the coaches, plus all the 380 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: meetings and the rule changes and all that. How's the 381 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: whole thing gone? 382 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: It's been great. No, it's pretty cool, pretty surreal after 383 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 2: all the years of working to get to this point 384 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: and then you know, be a part of that fraternity 385 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: has been awesome. 386 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: April seven, because you're one of the ten new head coaches, 387 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: you get to get your team in the building to 388 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: start the off season program early again, no football stuff yet, 389 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: just getting your feet wet, introducing yourself to your team. 390 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: What's that message going to be? 391 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: Like? No, it's exciting, it's it's everything you do is 392 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 2: to be with the players and then eventually get on 393 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: the grass with them. And our message is it starts 394 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: April seventh. It's really that simple. Has nothing really else 395 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: to say other and we start April seventh, and. 396 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 1: I don't there's no speech you've had like prepared for this. 397 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 2: That'll be one prepared. I don't have it right now, 398 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: but we'll be ready to come April seventh. 399 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: How are you What has his pre draft process been 400 00:19:59,200 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: like for you? 401 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: It's been great. You know. Once we got done putting 402 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 2: the staff together, we're doing football in the mornings, and 403 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: then the afternoons guys are working on you know, and 404 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 2: once free agency got over and working on the draft, 405 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 2: and once we get back Monday, well actually as the 406 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: staff will be back Wednesday, but we'll get back with 407 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: Andrew and the draft and his people come Monday. 408 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: Have you had those aha moments maybe where you're looking 409 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: at a guy in the office and you go, you 410 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna walk down the hall and I'm 411 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: gonna maybe not pound the table yet. It's still a 412 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: month out, but have you had those moments you're like, 413 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: you know what this guy? Sure? 414 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 2: I think it goes both ways. I think there's when 415 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: you watch a player, there's AHA moments where you're like, 416 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 2: I really like this player's skill set, how he fits us, 417 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: and I think there's others that like maybe not so much. 418 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: I think it works both ways, but we only have 419 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 2: one perspective of that process. Which is watching game tape. Sure, 420 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: we make some phone calls and talk to, you know, 421 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: coaches or college coaches, but ultimately it's up to Andrew 422 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 2: and his staff to make the ultimate call. 423 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: I want to go a little bit deeper on that 424 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: because you said that at the breakfast this morning, you 425 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: said the game tape is probably your most important factor here. 426 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: I've heard from coaches over the years that when you 427 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: meet with the player, certainly it's important, right do I 428 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: like this guy, do I jibe with the guy to 429 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: want this guy in my building? But that the tape 430 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: really tells the story for you. 431 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 2: I think it's the tape and having people that you 432 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: really trust, that know the prospect the best. 433 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: And how does your somewhat recent college experience help. 434 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: You it helps. I think it's a piece of it, 435 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: just like all of your scouts that get out and about. 436 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: Just like when you're in college, if you go to 437 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 2: high schools recruiting players, I think it's important to build 438 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: relationships so you get the right information because ultimately, whether 439 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 2: it's a twenty minute meeting, a thirty minute meeting, an 440 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: hour meeting a day with a player, that's nothing compared 441 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 2: to a coach or an individual that's been around a 442 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 2: prospect for a year for more in the year. What 443 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 2: is that prospect like on an everyday basis? How are 444 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 2: they wired that along with the tape that gives you 445 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 2: the best chance to shrink the margin for air? 446 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: Philosophically, as a first year head coach, do you need six, 447 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: twenty four, thirty seven for that matter to be immediate 448 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: impact players? Are you? Are you willing to say, you 449 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: know what, that guy might take a little bit of time, 450 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: even at six or at twenty four, but I love 451 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: his long term potential. Let's do it. 452 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 2: I hope they all are. Hope every draft picks immediate impact. 453 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: It's more fun that way. There are some really good 454 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 2: players in this draft that I am confident that all 455 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 2: the way down to thirty nine that there's going to 456 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 2: be an impact player. 457 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: You have spoken repeatedly about how you would like this 458 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: quarterback competition to look, but you also said that at 459 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: Georgia you had a situation once four or five quarterbacks 460 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: that just doesn't work. You said, I think that's not ideal. 461 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: What does the ideal quarterback competition look for you? Starting 462 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: as early as well. 463 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 2: First of all, I think we've got three outstanding quarterbacks 464 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: that are going to be competing for a starting position. 465 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 2: Like any any position on our team, there's going to 466 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 2: be competition. So I'm excited to get started with those guys. 467 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: I don't think, as I said this morning, I don't 468 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: think you can give equal reps to all in a 469 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 2: given day explaining well, in a given day, I don't 470 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 2: think in any position you can't. You can't go into 471 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 2: a day and say everybody's going to get equal reps 472 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: because everybody's not equal in terms of where they are 473 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 2: in terms of on our team. Now, every position is 474 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: a little bit different. Certainly you have starters that have 475 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 2: shown on tape their ability to play at a high level. Well, 476 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 2: they're going to start with our ones. Then you're going 477 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 2: to have to have some form of a depth chart 478 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: the first day that you roll out there, Right, they're 479 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: able to go against each other. You're gonna have to Okay, 480 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: here's the ones. Okay, well who is that? Well there's 481 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: some guesswork involved, and yet there's some of it that 482 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 2: that that's proven already on film. 483 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: Can somebody win that job before the third week of July. 484 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: Sure they can't, or they can at least put themselves 485 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 2: in position to go into the fall as our starter, 486 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: no matter what position, to cement that come July, right, exactly, 487 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 2: to at least take a step forward in terms of 488 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 2: where we believe they're at at that moment. 489 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: Ideally, would that be the best case scenario? Of course? Okay, 490 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: should Or's horsehead? Have you named it? 491 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 2: I have not. I have not named it yet, Okay, 492 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 2: but it should. 493 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. 494 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: Has he seen Godfather? Like I'm the horse heads are not. 495 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 2: I know, but it's not a bloodied real life I understood, 496 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: And it was your gift. 497 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: It wasn't a threat, right, I understand that. I wasn't 498 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: suggesting it was just yeah, I haven't heard of anyone 499 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: giving anyone a horsehead before. 500 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think there's been players before that might have 501 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: sent one, or one to send one. That's a threat. 502 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 2: I don't think that was the case. 503 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: Are you open to gifts? 504 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 2: I am open to gifts. I think it was great. 505 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: I was not expecting that from Hi. I do not 506 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: expect it. Do not send gifts that is not I 507 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: found it. I found it interesting, okay, and I was excited, 508 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: of course. 509 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't like presence. Two quick questions Deshaun Watson 510 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. You had a front row seat. 511 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: You were there in Baltimore when he had that perfect 512 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: second half David A joke, who's breaking tackles? Tustin Hopkins 513 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: is sitting a field goal? You saw that firsthand. Is 514 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: that guy still in there? And if so, how do 515 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: you get that guy? 516 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 2: God? I hope. 517 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 3: So. 518 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: When I did get a chance to meet with him, 519 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: it was refreshing, and I think he's excited to get 520 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 2: started another opportunity with a new staff, and I can't 521 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 2: wait to get started again come April seventh. 522 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: And finally you texted with Miles. What was that text convo? Like, 523 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: were there emojis or there? 524 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 2: No, there's no no emojis. It was just I was 525 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 2: asking him a couple of questions and some insight. At 526 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: that time, he happened to be overseas well. At first 527 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 2: he was traveling, then he was overseas for the Olympics. 528 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: But I look forward to to getting him back in 529 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: the building. 530 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: Getting started all right in a good conversation. Yep, no 531 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: Qutch April seventh, We'll see you there. Thanks for doing 532 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: this fantas, Thank you, and again haircut, well done. 533 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: Thank you. 534 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: It's good stuff there with Todd munkin my first chance 535 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: to interview him one on one certainly was there Gibbe 536 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: at the combine and we made some small talk there 537 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: when he was on CBD. I really liked the guy. 538 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: I think Brown's friends are going to like him as well. 539 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: He listened. He's going to be diplomatic when he has 540 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: to be diplomatic. He's an NFL head coach in every 541 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: word that anyone says on the podium or into a 542 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: microphone is going to be over analyzed. But he's going 543 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: to be fairly direct. And that was the impression we 544 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: got from Jimmy Haslm, from d Haslm, from everybody here 545 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: is that you're going to know where you stand with 546 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: Todd munkin period, and the player are going to know that. 547 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: Starting next week. Players are in the building, Gibbe. Next 548 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: week we'll hear from the coach again, and the off 549 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: season program gets rolling on April seven, Like the off 550 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,120 Speaker 1: season's over, buddy. 551 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: No no, no, no no. 552 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 4: And by the way, like I know, there was a 553 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 4: lot of conversation about the haircut. I am happy to 554 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 4: take care of your haircut, Todd, like I. 555 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: Got you look at you. 556 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 4: Cools, like make it simple, low maintenance, unlike Siciliano, real simple. 557 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: Like was it Eddie Murphy in coming to America? Just 558 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: make it nice and neat. 559 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 3: That's right, That's right, that's it. That's all you gotta do, 560 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 3: all right. 561 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: So the off season program it gets rolling with. There's 562 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: going to be the voluntary midi camp on the week 563 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: of the draft, which is something very new. At least obviously, 564 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: I don't remember that under Kevin. I wasn't around in 565 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. It was also the COVID year in twenty 566 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: twenty obviously, so things were a bit different. And also 567 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: we find out this week it's not official official, but 568 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: it is out there. It looks as if the Browns 569 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: are going to be doing a joint practice in Cleveland 570 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: with your Buffalo Bills. 571 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 3: I'm good with that. 572 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 4: The last time we did joint practices with the Bills, 573 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 4: John Paul Football was on our team. We chartered an 574 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 4: Amtrak train to Rochester, New York. 575 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 3: We didn't fly. 576 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 4: We took an Amtrak train for joint practices with the Bills. 577 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 4: Up in there was a Saint John Fisher College I 578 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 4: believe is the name of it. 579 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: Rochester. 580 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,719 Speaker 4: The only memorable part that I like to keep in 581 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 4: mind would be the nighttime events because the practices did 582 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 4: not go well. 583 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 3: Let's just put it down. 584 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: We don't know the dates yet for that Bill's joint practice. However, 585 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: it should be noted that the Foo Fighters and I'm 586 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: going to be there with bells on when Dave Role 587 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: comes to town. The Foo Fighters a player Huntington bank 588 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: Field on the tenth. It's a Monday night of August. 589 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: The Hall of Fame game is the sixth. That is 590 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: the first full week. No, the Hall of Fame game 591 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: is the thirty first is the first or the no 592 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: the sixth, either way. Don't know yet when the Buffalo 593 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: Bills Gibe will be here for the Josh Allen Miles 594 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: Garrett reunion from last year. But when we get that 595 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: preseason schedule, we will get it to you. It looks 596 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: like one road game, two home games in the preseason. 597 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: That's not set in stone, but that's certainly what it 598 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: appears like because generally it goes sick quickly, and last 599 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: year we're on the road. It goes back and forth 600 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: for those two preseason games in Carolina and in Philadelphia. 601 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: Rules changes very quickly. The big headline here is that 602 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: the NFL has voted in, voted in if there is 603 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: a workstoppage with the officials, the ability to use replay 604 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: assists to direct calls and to help guide the replacement officials. 605 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: If it comes to that, give it your thoughts. 606 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 3: Let's see what happens. But I think I like this 607 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 3: on a bigger stage. 608 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 4: Even when the main officials are there. I can't argue 609 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 4: with something like this. I'm fascinated to see how it 610 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 4: comes about. I'm a little more concerned that we're spending 611 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 4: a lot of time talking about replacement officials, like trending 612 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 4: that it's gonna happen more so than not happen. 613 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: I feel we're a long way from the first game. However, 614 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: we are not a long way from officials showing up 615 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: a training camp and helping teams and obviously going through 616 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: that whole cycle. So they're going to need officials soon. 617 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: Obviously we're a long way, however, from week one. Real 618 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: quick here, The other thing that was changed when it 619 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: comes to replay assist is this, and this goes into 620 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: effect regardless of whether or not we have replacement officials, 621 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: is that the league and replace assist now has the 622 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: ability to kick a player out and and that's the 623 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: key change here. Drop a flag if there is a 624 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: non football act that needs an ejection. There were two plays, 625 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: the league says last year, and one of them the 626 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: Josh Show play obviously in the Super Bowl, in which 627 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: players should have been ejected on the field for a 628 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: punch thrown or a non football act, and it was missed. 629 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: But it was clear and obvious that was a punch. 630 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: That's an ejection, and it was missed. The league now 631 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: with replay assists, has the ability to stop the game 632 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: and kick that player out. And from what I understand 633 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: is there wasn't a lot of pushback. People think this 634 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: is the right way to handle it. What was added 635 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: is that when Kevin O'Connell and Sean Payton, among others, 636 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: stood up in the meeting and said, wait a minute, 637 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: if we are going to kick somebody out, there's got 638 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: to be a flag as well. You can't have it 639 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,719 Speaker 1: third and ten, it's an incompletion, and that after on 640 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: replay you realize that wide receiver threw a punch, that 641 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: guy should be ejected, and then make it fourth and ten. No, 642 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: at that point it should be the defensive team have 643 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: the option of making that third and twenty five or 644 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You should be able. You 645 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: need to be able to throw the flag and apply 646 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: the penalty yardage as well. 647 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 648 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And there wasn't a lot of pushback. 649 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 4: I'm assuming the other play was the DK Metcalf play 650 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 4: or the DK Metcalf stuff. 651 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: It might have been. No one raised their hand and 652 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: asked which one it was in the presser when Rich McKay, 653 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: the co chair of the Competition Committee, was up there. 654 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: But that is that is fair to assume. We are 655 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: recording this before Roger Goodell's press conference to end the 656 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: annual meeting and the fleet of black SUVs to head 657 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: back to Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport and people get the 658 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: heck out of here. But that is imminent. Don't know 659 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: if there's going to be any major news out of that. 660 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: Certainly I can't imagine major news that affects your Brown. 661 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: So with that, we will tell you that we are 662 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: excited to get the off season program rolling next week 663 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: and another edition the Best Podcast Available, brought to you 664 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: by the Bullseye Event Group for award winning game day experiences. 665 00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: Visit Bullseye eventgroup dot com Gibbe any final thoughts. 666 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 4: Happy Easter, my friend, have I caliday back home with 667 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 4: the fam. Everybody be safe, have a good holiday. We'll 668 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 4: be back with you next week. From the Cross Country 669 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 4: Mortgage Campus with players in the building. The salad bar 670 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 4: is back in the cafe. 671 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: Let's go, buddy, Save me a line, save me a 672 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: spot at the salad bar.