1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily where it's the Irish super Bowl 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: this week. I'm Greg Rosenthal and I could not be 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: more excited to be joined by the unofficial host of 4 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: Viking Steelers the first ever game in Dublin, Michael McQuaid. 5 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: How are you doing? Are you going a little crazy? 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: And now you're running all over the place this week? 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: Greg Falsa, Welcome to Ireland. I know you've a lot 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: of bonds on this island, both north and south. And 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: it's funny. I was talking to a few people before 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: we came in here. I really mean this. It really 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: means a lot to us to see not just yourself 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: but the league come over here. So it's good to 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 2: see him. How are you doing? 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm doing great. And yeah, Like I get to 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: the airport, the entire gate are Steelers fans in their jerseys? 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: Did you fly from LA or from LA? So that 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: Steelers fans in La? 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I mean they're Steelers fans everywhere. The fact 19 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: that it's all Steelers span on a like red Eye 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: in LA. Like, okay, that feels different. Get off the flight, 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: you see the Steelers and all the NFL stuff all 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: over the city. Get to the hotel. There's literally twenty 23 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: Steelers fans all taking pictures with their jerseys on, and 24 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: it just You've been on a bus around town with 25 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: literally the bus Jerome Bettis and yeah, it it does 26 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: feel like a special week for football in this country 27 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: and in the NFL in general. 28 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: And I have got a present for you from all 29 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: of us slots here, including Mark sitting Bestiitus, I've got 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: you an Irish terrible tile. Oh I don't believes available 31 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh, So you can keep that as a memento. 32 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: A I mean, I'm not keeping this thing. I'm a 33 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: Rogers hater, but I will give. 34 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: This give it to a deserving person. 35 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: To a deserving friend, my good buddy Anthony Jesselnick. We're 36 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: here with a big fan of the jessel Nick and 37 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: Rosenthal vanity project, Jev Mark Cogan here, and I'm going 38 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: I'm giving this straight to him. He will he will 39 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: really appreciate that. And yes, if you're listening to this, 40 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: what's this show all about? We want to get a 41 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: little bit of local flavor, a little bit of knowledge 42 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: about the growth of the game. Here we're going to 43 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: talk a little Viking Steelers. We did preview the game 44 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: on our preview show, But just a few more thoughts 45 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: about it before we get ready what that game is 46 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: going to look like. And I'm actually going to throw 47 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: some rankings at you, because I can't do anything in 48 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: my life without ranking them. And they're not exactly power rankings, 49 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: but I thought this was like a good time to 50 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: just look at preseason predictions and who we think me 51 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: especially are going to make the playoffs. How that's changed. 52 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: So it's kind of ranking the teams based on how 53 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: I think they're going to make, you know, the playoffs 54 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: or not. I divided them up into categories and you 55 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: can just tell me where you think I'm wrong and 56 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: where you think I'm right. But I do kind of 57 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: want to start with a little bit of Ireland chatter. Still, 58 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: how have you seen like the call of NFL fandom, bro, I'm. 59 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: Sitting here speaking to somebody like yourself. That's been the 60 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: London many times. London's great, London's amazing. I think Tottenham 61 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: is really really special. The first ever game I went 62 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: to was in Wembley, and I know you've experienced that 63 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 2: journey numerous times and continue to do so. 64 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: I went to Twickenham. 65 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 2: That was Twickenham Rams, wasn't it Rams against? Yeah, I've 66 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: never been to twicking them I so I'll give you that. 67 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 2: I think you know, when we go to an airport 68 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: where it's Belfast, Dublin, corek carry whatever, it doesn't matter 69 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 2: where you are on this island. The fact of the 70 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: matter is we cannot walk on water yet, so we 71 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: have to get a play into an NFL game. To 72 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: see it actually come over to here is really special, 73 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: especially when we have kicked sort of the season off 74 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: football wise with college football for the last few years. 75 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: And man, this is like the fifth time I've said this, 76 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: but I'm almost asking myself, why is it only happening now? 77 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: This should have happened like ten to fifteen years ago. 78 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: But you know, and I know your listeners know as well. 79 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: You know, guys like Alistair Kirkwood who really gambled his 80 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: on that game, and O seven working and with Miami 81 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: and with New York and look where we are now. 82 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: League games coming up over the next few weeks in 83 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: London and Dublin. On top it's you know you mentioned 84 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: when we met here, but Munich, it's got that dim 85 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: feel to me. The fact that I've left the house, 86 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: gott in my car and I've drove down the road 87 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: to an NFL game is something I never thought I 88 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: would see. But it's so so special and I can't 89 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: tell you how excited I am. 90 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: I do want to wrap up sort of talking about 91 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: what we think it's going to look like on Sunday, 92 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: because it's a different stadium and everything. But I think 93 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: the game's here, and you're right, it is too late, 94 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: and it's not gonna be the last one. The NFL 95 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: is expanding, you think. 96 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: So do you think it'll be another one in the 97 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: Heartland at some point, even if it's not next year? 98 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean I think if I had the guess 99 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: without any inside knowledge, and maybe our Friendnry Hodson, will 100 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: you know, slap me for this, but I would think 101 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be next year or whenever it is. If anything, 102 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: the only concern will be like can they match up 103 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: to how big they're going this time around with this dealers, 104 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: because there's a lot going on, like it feels like 105 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: a first game in the country. And the reason I 106 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: think it'll keep happening is because they're gonna go where 107 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: the response is and Ireland punches above its weight in 108 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: terms of fandom, like so much, Like why do you 109 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: think that is? Like I went and looked at our 110 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: listenership over the last month, Like Ireland is fourth in 111 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: terms of the countries listening. It's the US, of course, 112 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: the UK is a massive way out in second, Australia 113 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: and then it's Ireland. I actually did some comparison, like 114 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: I went and looked a year ago, and it's like 115 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: Ireland zoom passed Germany. So it's like it's growing and 116 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: for such a small country for it to have that 117 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: sort of audience, I don't know what do you think 118 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: the reason is if. 119 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: You actually extrapolate potentially the UK data as well, how 120 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: many people are from Northern Ireland as well? I'm not 121 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: so and that goes into the stots, so it could 122 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 2: be sitting third for all we know. Well we will 123 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: talk about that over it and the fandoms just grown 124 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 2: and grown, and you know, you talk about it builds 125 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 2: like a real first game vibe. I think it's because 126 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 2: of the fact of the heritage and you know, I 127 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: know you've previewed the game, but there's been no international 128 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: game ever where an ownership has came over and they've 129 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: literally you know, come over to come home, you know, 130 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: two hundred years since they emigrated from North America, the 131 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 2: Roney family. You know, I was looking enough to be 132 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: up in Newry earlier on this week, and you could 133 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: see the Runes emotional, like Jerome Bettis got it immediately 134 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: what it meant to him and kids there, you know, 135 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: like it was in the girls' school and you know 136 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: they've probably never watched it down in football in their life, 137 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: but when he walked out with a gold jacket, they 138 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: were like, oh my god, this is incredible. There is 139 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: that vibe of you know, it's the first time, and 140 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: I agree with you what you're saying about it, you know, 141 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: potentially coming back. And you know, from a fan perspective, 142 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: first and foremost, when you come down here, you see 143 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: Dublin Castle, you see every street decked out. I think 144 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 2: they get the right matchup. I can't see why it 145 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: can't happen every year, and it's an easy addition for 146 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 2: the league to have a year on year if they 147 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: have or if they want to have additional games. I 148 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: think it's just abo getting the right palette. I'd happily 149 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 2: take a game every year. 150 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: If they often make the Steelers the Irish team. I'm 151 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: sure they'd want to be. 152 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: I know they really like and it's not even like 153 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: not like it's public knowledge. They really want to play 154 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: in Mexico and I know. I remember I spoke to 155 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: a guy called al Varro Martin who does the Spanish broadcast, 156 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: and he met me at the Super Bowl and he 157 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: was like, Man, I'm so happy for you, but like 158 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: I really wanted it to be honest and fans, and 159 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: there's fans from Mexico flying over to this game. So 160 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: I feel like, yes, they'll come back to Steelers, please God, Touchwood, 161 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: et cetera. But I think they might go to Mexico 162 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: next at some point. 163 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: Well they've only had you know, Dan Renie's only been 164 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: an ambassador to one country. 165 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: Yes, I. 166 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: Am confident it'll be here, partly because it's open that 167 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: the NFL's idea is to play more international games, and 168 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: it's pretty obvious to me that the way to do 169 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: that is eventually have a schedule where every team plays 170 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: an international game every year. There's an entire week of 171 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: international games. It solves the whole uneven home away schedule. 172 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: It's an extra television package. They're going to renegotiate that 173 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm just spinning off of speculation. This is not inside information. 174 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: And so at that point, like you need inventory, you 175 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: need sixteen games a year. London can handle what five, six, 176 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: whatever it's gonna be. But you're gonna be all over 177 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: the globe, and I think they'll go where the enthusiasm is, 178 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: and it's here. So let's put a pin in that 179 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: for a minute. I do want to circle back and 180 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: end with that, and we can talk a little bit 181 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: about Vikings Steelers, but I'm gonna I'm gonna just do 182 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: something on that. I was on the flight over, I 183 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: was thinking about it a little bit, and I just 184 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: thought like it would be a good time to think 185 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: about where we're at. After three weeks. I don't think 186 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: it's too early to start overreacting and just categorize these teams. 187 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: And so we're gonna do it pretty quickly here. Yeah, Michael, right, 188 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: it's like you are an analys You're not just I 189 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: don't want to just put you in the in the 190 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: box of like, oh yeah, tell us about how meaningful 191 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: Ireland is. You're actually going to be broadcasting. What is 192 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: your role with Virgin Media for this game? It is 193 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: the first Irish production of an NFL game since nineteen 194 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: ninety yes, which is outrageous. 195 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 2: I was born in ninety one, so I'll take that. 196 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: That's annoying. You didn't need to say that. Like you 197 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: you're going to be part of it. What are you 198 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: doing for the game? 199 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: And I'm doing pregium, halftime and postgame on the television 200 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: on our friend who we were talking about off audio 201 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: fa Obata is going to be doing not play by play, 202 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: but whenever the US goes to commercials, he's going to 203 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: be talking to each play. And I know you love 204 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 2: the guy. I absolutely love that guy. He is amazing 205 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: and I can't see what he's going to be like. 206 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: That is amazing. You're kind of a competitor. I'm doing 207 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: halftime for sky Sports, but ultimately I don't think you 208 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: can get both. I don't even know how it works. 209 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: You can't. 210 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: But sure, Look it's fine. We just go up against 211 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: John On have some fun. 212 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: Flip it in between. Okay, I've divided the entire league 213 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: into different groups. Okay, I'm going to start at the 214 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: bottom and then go to the top, and the different 215 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: groups are based on like if I think they can 216 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: make the playoffs after three weeks, and I do generally 217 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: enter the season with there's only a handful of teams 218 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: that you think have very little chance to make the playoffs, 219 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: and looking at the teams in this category, it's amazing 220 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: how predictable it'd be. So this is teams I would 221 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: be shocked if they made the playoffs, and I'm gonna 222 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: start going backwards, so dead last in the NFL, I 223 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: would put the Titans that's thirty two. Saints would be next, 224 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: Dolphins at thirty. I still would be shocked if the 225 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers made the playoffs, even though they just want 226 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: a game by a shutout. The Jets above them. That's 227 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: one where I probably would have changed categories in the 228 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: last three weeks because I actually had them as a 229 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: seventh seed. Okay, I don't feel good about that now. 230 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: I still think they can be relevant. It'd be tough 231 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: for them to go ten and for the rest of 232 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: the year, that's probably what they would need to make 233 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: the playoffs. The Raider, the Giants, and then at the 234 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: very top of this list, the Browns. Well, we even 235 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 1: thought about bumping up a little bit. 236 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 2: The Broyn's defense against the Packers last week. I obviously 237 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: they're offensive. I've got issues and they've got Frankly a 238 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 2: lovely man, but a very old man playing a quarterback. 239 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 2: In one sense, I. 240 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: Would lovely like you find him physically attractive, he's hair 241 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: or he's just a nice guy. 242 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 2: If I've mad him, he's a lovely Yeah, look he's 243 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 2: he's he's a very good looking man. I can't believe 244 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: saying us on an NFL podcast, but he's actually he's 245 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: a really really nice guy, family man as well when 246 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: when I had the chance to meet him, but never actually. 247 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: Big like not that you're shocked that Joe flackos big, 248 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: but he's an enormous. 249 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: He's a giant man. He's an absolute giant in terms 250 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: of being a brown though offensively, do I think they 251 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: could make a run. It's difficult, but that defense against 252 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: the Packers shut and I know Jordan loved a really 253 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: per game. But like man, I would put them up 254 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: a little bit. I would actually have the Giants maybe 255 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 2: towards the bottom two here. Whenever we went to New 256 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: Jersey and seeing the Jats trending comp the optimism was 257 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: so different from any time we seen him come to London, 258 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: Like justin field seemed really, really confident, and I just 259 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 2: find it really funny how you've got them. 260 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 1: Bottom with training camps. Yeah, sometimes for it, but that's 261 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: why I think they can still be relevant. But this 262 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: category is shocked if they made the playoffs. I'm assuming 263 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: you probably need ten wins to make the playoffs. To 264 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: go ten and four, it's a lot. They have more 265 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 1: defensive problems than I really expected. But shout out to 266 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: the Browns because they maybe deserve to be in this 267 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: next tier up because I do think that defense is 268 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: that good. It's just it's just hard. The combination of 269 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: quarterback an offensive line for the Browns is gonna make 270 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: it very difficult, all right. The next The next section 271 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: is I would be surprised if they made the playoffs. 272 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,479 Speaker 1: So the first section, I'd be shocked. I'm basically crossing 273 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: those teams out, like apology to the Dolphins insane. So 274 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: I don't think their fans feel different, and the Raiders 275 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: fans probably do feel different. They're always over confident, but 276 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: they got a lot of issues. Another team with the 277 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: bad offensive line and not enough talent on defense. This 278 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: group is the teams I would be surprised if they 279 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: made the playoffs, all right, this is the number twenty 280 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: one team overall, the Bears. Then the Bengals have the 281 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: Patriots at twenty three and the Cowboys at twenty four. 282 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: So those four teams feels very unlikely that they would 283 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. To me, of that group, who do 284 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: you think would be the most. 285 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: Just because I know it's an absolute storm done there 286 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 2: at any given moments, and for all we know, they 287 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 2: could go in on Sunday night and beat the Packers. 288 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: Give me the Cowboys, like for all me who know? 289 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: Like how fired up are they gonna be going up 290 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: against Michaeh. Parsons on Sunday Night? Like they're gonna be 291 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: all over the month? 292 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: That only goes so far. I mean, they just don't 293 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: have the juice. One of the things I regret the 294 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: most about my preseason analysis was how I thought the 295 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys defense, now this is when they had Parsons, would 296 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: be frisky in terms of the edge players next to them, 297 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: having the depth. I think the combination of the scheme 298 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: and the talent, they just don't really fit each other. 299 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: So I'm not crossing them out. Any team with a 300 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: quarterback playing that well has a chance but losing Cdee 301 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: Lamb for however long it's going to be, losing two 302 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: offensive linemen for at least the next you know, three, 303 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: four or five weeks is a pretty big deal. I 304 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: think Patriots fans might be maybe annoyed that I put 305 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: them down here, but I would be surprised at this point. 306 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: I feel like an eight or nine win team would 307 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: be a big victory for this team. 308 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: You've got the Bengals and exactly the right spot. I 309 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: actually felt bod watching them last week, whenever Browning how 310 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: a bit of a brown himself watching it. It was 311 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: absolutely awful. And obviously we'll probably talk about viks defense. 312 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: They were all on this podcast. But I think you're 313 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: in the right spot there, Patriots. You could see them 314 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: maybe you know, winning one last and what they lose overall, 315 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: but they're sort of stop start, stop start. They really 316 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: should have pushed on against Theaters last week. I thought 317 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: they would have it. Don't a lot better to be honest, 318 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: to be able fourteen points last week. 319 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, they if they score like and eliminate mistakes. They 320 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: have the most potential here because of the schedule. Like again, 321 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: they have the Panthers next week, they have these NFC 322 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: South teams. The rest of the AFC East is very forgiving, 323 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: but I think they're still short in a lot of places, 324 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: and so I would be surprised. All right, My next group, 325 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm counting as like the playoff bubble, like these teams 326 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: have a legit chance to make the playoffs. Yeah, at 327 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: the moment, they might be in my mind like a 328 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: little on the outside looking out or right on the border. 329 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: And so at the top of that list, I'm putting 330 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: the Vikings at the top of that list. I had 331 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: them over eight and a half as one of my 332 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: favorite over unders this year. I feel okay about that now, 333 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: but not amazing. The Jaguars are next. Think they're very 334 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: frisky stealers. Below them right in the middle of the 335 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: NFL at sixteen, The Broncos at seventeen. I'm a little 336 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: concerned about bo Nicks. They're lower than they would have 337 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: been going into the season, for sure. The Texans I'm 338 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: hanging on. I'm keeping a little bit of stack because 339 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: that defense is championship worthy. The Cardinals and the Falcons 340 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: are also in this year. Make fun of one of 341 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: these rankings, which one do you dislike the most? 342 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: The Broncos. I think, you know, if you look at 343 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: two of their games they've lost by a combined four 344 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: or five points, that we're very unlucky against Indianapolis. They 345 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: should have offensively really took the Chargers last week. I 346 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: understand how they lost the game. Bo Nicks, how we 347 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: seen him last year, especially in the second half of 348 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: the season to night, clearly isn't not the level that 349 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: he was last year. But he needs to try and 350 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: push on. They've got the weapons offensively, they've got defensive 351 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: leaders there. They should be at the upper actional lot 352 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: of that I really find an interesting. But the vikings 353 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: at the top of that Steelers as well, especially when 354 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: they've got a you know, a positive record so far, 355 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: is really intriguing him with that, Like obviously what two 356 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: on for three weeks. 357 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: So the Steelers have a lot of concerning aspects to 358 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: their their offensive line, their quarterback doesn't like to be pressured, 359 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: the depth of their offensive players. To this point, the 360 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: defense is underachieved, but they have been winning doing it 361 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: and Mike Tomlin usually figures it out and they always 362 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: win more games than they should. So maybe I'm being 363 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of a hater to. 364 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 2: Tell you about here at sixteen. I mean they are 365 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: grinding the out of the minute. They're not like, you know, 366 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: the top level of where they could be. Their run 367 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: game has been quite inconsistent as well. Three weeks, like 368 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: forty mix some yards. 369 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: They're on the bubble. They're on the bubble. They're an 370 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: average team that I think the expectations were too high 371 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: when Mike Tomlin said that he thought this defense could 372 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: be a store like, let's be average first, at least 373 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: the next group. Okay, we're getting to some intriguing teams here, 374 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: ten through thirteen, number ten, and this would be the 375 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: category disappointing if they don't make the playoffs at this 376 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: point based off what we've seen, I think if they 377 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs, their fan base and certainly internally, 378 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: they're going to be pretty disappointed they don't make the playoffs. 379 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: The Seahawks here I have in my top ten overall, 380 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: and I was very tempted to put them in title contenders. 381 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: The Darnold thing. It is a little worrisome, but I 382 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: do think they have a lot to really like. The 383 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: Colts at eleven. I know it's only three weeks, but 384 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: at this point you're three and oh, your offense has 385 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: been this good. This is an opportunity. If they don't 386 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, everyone gets fired. Like it actually is 387 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: putting more pressure on. Yeah, maybe they couldn't have any 388 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: more pressure. It's good pressure to have, but they needed 389 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: to have a playoff season, I think to keep all 390 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: their jobs and now at this start, they need to 391 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: keep it going. The Commander's at twelve and then the 392 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: forty nine ers so many injuries, favorable schedule three and oh, 393 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: but I still put them in this tier because of 394 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: the injuries and some questions I have. What's what stands 395 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: out to you? 396 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: Hear all all for them to be Honestly, if if 397 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 2: we start with the Niners, like how there are grinds 398 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: that results with Mark Jones are and still picking up 399 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: even with now have different injuries. You know, the Brock 400 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: party is going to come back from his turf to 401 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: injury at some point. They've got guys there on both 402 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 2: sides of the ball. Colts, I mean, I know, you 403 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: know Jeff Ryan Bolden, he was he was comparing him 404 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 2: to Johnny and IDAs and Peton Manning on the podcast 405 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: earlier this week. 406 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: I actually appeared Daniel Jones to Peyton, but he was. 407 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: Like, look, there's all these different, like different legendary players 408 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, and now we've got Daniel Jones for three weeks. 409 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 2: I'm really happy for him. Man like it, like it. 410 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 2: But I was saying to to Mark my mate as 411 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 2: well here on our podcast this week. They are so 412 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: fun to watch defense Clay Hey who played they were 413 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: playing last week the Jaguars, I mean right last week, 414 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 2: but it was at taxing for a second. How do 415 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: they get the ball down the field? Is just like 416 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 2: their running game is so so fun to watch. I 417 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: would put the Colts if they win this week against 418 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: the Rounds, I'd put them up in the upper actural 419 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: on of that so interesting pickle the Seahawks. Well, but 420 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: Colts for me are the wont the start out there? Definitely. 421 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we should give some pop uh to the podcast 422 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: Pro Football Ireland a little Jeff Brinbold Action our friend 423 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: from Sky Sports. You got any other ops do you 424 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: want to give? 425 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: Well? Personally, Jeff works in college football and how we 426 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 2: do a podcast twice a week as a minor miracle 427 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 2: without man. I love him and we appreciate him, just 428 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 2: everyone like Mark Gis and all the guys who've a 429 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: college football podcast. A young man called Connell, twenty years 430 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: of age, has been in the National Championship. Donna as well. 431 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 2: I do Monday morning podcast as well. It just guys 432 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 2: that you know, do it for the love of the 433 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: game and it does make a huge difference. 434 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: You've built a little empire. How many people have you 435 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: left on the side of the road. Sharp elbow is 436 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: on your way up here. I guy in Ireland, I 437 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: do the best. 438 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 2: I can't. I try my best. I love the game 439 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 2: and you know, we'll talk about it after this, but 440 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: you know, when you have weekends, I said, you know, 441 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 2: it means a love. 442 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: I I was asked by my friend Matt Casey. I'm 443 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: name dropping him here, who is the producer for Football 444 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: Night in America, also Mike Florio's producer, and he was like, 445 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: is there Neil Reynolds of Ireland? And I sent him 446 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: your way and then you you were on Florio's show. 447 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: I know I should be getting a co producer. Well, 448 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: I credit for that, but you that's your status at 449 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: this point. 450 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 2: Thank you very very much. It's funny, like I really 451 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 2: appreciate going on obviously love Florio and it was windy outside, right, 452 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 2: so you can imagine being on pftive or whatever on 453 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: my hair just went live. I'm bitt and bar someon. 454 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 2: But mon great, great way to go on, and thank 455 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: you for the reference. And a co producer situation will 456 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: definitely happen, absolutely. 457 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: And and I don't think you need to say obviously 458 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: I love Florio because I feel like there's a lot 459 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: of people that don't love. 460 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: I enjoy his articles. I enjoy the discussion, shall we say, 461 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: on the opinions and you know, different things too. 462 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: He cranked No one works harder, and I'm joking about 463 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 1: it because I feel comfortable doing that. I used to 464 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: work for him, and I know he pisses a lot 465 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: of people off, Like that's what he's trying to do. 466 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's people inside the league. Sometimes it's people working 467 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: for teams. But you need some one like that in 468 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: the mix. All right, let's get back to the go 469 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: for it to the mix. And yet, like the Commander's 470 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: defense is a little more impressive so far than I expected, 471 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: and so I actually am upgrading them a little bit. 472 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: I was. I was not so high on them repeating 473 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: this year, and the fact that their defense I think 474 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: is going to be as good as it has been. 475 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: Makes me more optimistic that I'd be disappointed if they 476 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs. And the Seahawks. Very close to 477 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: putting them in the title contenders because I just think 478 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: they have a lot that to like on this team, 479 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: especially on defense, but I like the way that the 480 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: offense has been coaching. Just need to see it just 481 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: a little bit more. All right, let's get the title 482 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: contenders because we're taping this too before that that T 483 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: andF game, and we could sound stupid talking Seahawks or 484 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: Cardinals title contenders. And tell me if you don't think 485 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: any of these teams are Ultimately, I had a pretty 486 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: big group people think that it's very predictable. I think 487 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: this season in the NFL, at least where we are 488 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I felt comfortable putting nine teams where 489 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: if they went won the Super Bowl, I'd be like, yeah, 490 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: I could see it with maybe you know, one caveat 491 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: and that's at the bottom of this. But at the top, 492 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm putting the Packers. I know they just lost to 493 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: the Browns. They still have Matt Lafleur, a quarterback I 494 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: believe in, and what I think is going to be 495 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: the best defense in the league. So I'm putting them 496 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: number one, the Lions and Eagles right behind them. I 497 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: just think they're going to be the class of the 498 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: NFC in general. Chargers, Bills, Ravens up next. Even though 499 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: the Ravens have lost two games, I anticipate they will 500 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: figure things out. My friend Jordan Rodrigue on the show 501 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: on Wednesday said, is are the Chargers the best team 502 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: in the NFL? I thought, I was, like, Man, that 503 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: is a wild statement, but it's not crazy when you 504 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: think of how well Justin Herbert is playing right now, 505 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: and that they're a pretty balanced team overall. So they're 506 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: there at four, Bills at five, Ravens at six, and 507 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: then the Rams, the Bucks, and the hardest team to 508 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: put in this list for me was actually the Kansas 509 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: City Chiefs. It just felt like, I'm like falling for 510 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: it if I don't at least put them in this category. 511 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: It's the first team that looked at me there now. 512 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: Like granted, I watched about fifty six minutes condensed of 513 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: Sunday Night Football with the Chiefs, and the reality is 514 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 2: something we talked about earlier on this week. For two 515 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: teams in that list, one of them, barring a miracle 516 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: this week, is going one in flee, And like, what's 517 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: the percentage chance of making the playoffs if you go 518 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 2: one and flee? Never mind the consequences in the AFC 519 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: North if the Ravens go to one and play with 520 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 2: different teams there and with the Chiefs offensively barred that 521 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: like bar the final couple of offensive drives on Sunday 522 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: Night football in New York. I was sort of surprised 523 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 2: at how much they struggle to get the ball dot 524 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 2: the fielding relied so much a hard booker, I thought 525 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 2: there would be more of a movement on the offense 526 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 2: with Patrick Mahomes charges one's interest and the biggest one 527 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: for me stands out the Rams how and I look, 528 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 2: I know I cursed them last week for a start online, right, 529 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: but how they were able to almost stop that Eagles 530 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 2: offense in the first tof and you know, stop the 531 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 2: run to an extent was saque and they'll put you 532 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: in under pressure. But certainly we could see a different 533 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: side of the Eagles that we hadn't seen in quite 534 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: a while. Forty went in the championship run fell apart 535 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: a little bit in the second half or they didn't 536 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 2: get there. Yeah, a big time, but they showed a 537 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 2: little bit of a blueprint there defensively to trend to 538 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 2: stop was going to be interesting. See if anybody else 539 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: can pick it up on the scratch. Yeah. 540 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: I think their pass rush in the way they're built, 541 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: they're built to play with a lead normally there running 542 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: success right has been through the roof, and I think 543 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: that's the biggest reason they got that lead in the 544 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: first half, as they played keep away from the Eagles 545 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: and went on these long drives. They got to be 546 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: able to finish the drives. But ultimately, like they are 547 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: in a championship window. If I had to guess, I 548 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: think this is Matthew staffords last year in the NFL, 549 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: and not that there's a lot of pressure on them 550 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: to win now, but there's a reason why he came 551 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: back and decided to take less money to play for 552 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: the Rams than to possibly go to the Giants or 553 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: the Steelers or the options that were out there, and 554 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: that's because they can go ahead and win the title. 555 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: So that's my top nine for now. I think we'll 556 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: do this every once in a while in the season, 557 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,479 Speaker 1: just kind of just take a look, we'll put this 558 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: out on the socials too, so everyone can get mad 559 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: at us. 560 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think anybody can complain with 561 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 2: those top nine teams. Okay, maybe Chiefs fonds because they're 562 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: sitting in ninth, maybe, but. 563 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: I mean they should they should be they should be 564 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: grateful to even be there at all. 565 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: We will see what happens is they's not enough pass rush. 566 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: But I also know almost everything that's happened to this 567 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: point in the season is just a very like it's 568 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: a amuz boosh of a dinner that we're gonna have. 569 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: It is the it's not even an appetizer. It is 570 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: such a small portion of what's actually going to matter 571 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 1: in December, January, November. Obviously, the wins count, but I've 572 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: just seen too many seasons like this, and and the 573 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Ravens organizations like that can south scout 574 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: and problem solve and figure things out. I think that 575 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: the issues with the Chiefs roster though this year, are 576 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: just greater, so them figuring out might be second place 577 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: in the AFC West and suddenly you're on the road 578 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: for three weeks even though you want eleven games. The 579 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: Chargers you know, win that division and that that's a different, 580 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: different recipe without like a great pass. 581 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 2: I really like the option of maybe writing this down 582 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: right and week free and then calling back, yeah, week 583 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 2: seven and seeing a completely different sort of well middle 584 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 2: part as well. Now I love it. 585 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: I will Okay, let's let's talk this game on Sunday. 586 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: What do you think the atmosphere is going to be like? 587 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: And like what is this stadium like to be holding 588 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: like an NFL game? 589 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 2: Here? Stadium's massive. I called it a mecca for us, 590 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: Like that's what it is. I'm presuming that Mark is 591 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: nodding in the background here because he agrees. But for 592 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 2: us just very quickly, not to bore people, but to 593 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: deep dive in this very very quickly. We we have 594 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 2: Gaelic sports football hurling. Our villages are times you play 595 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 2: for them, and if you're good enough, you play for 596 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 2: your county. Usually you don't treat it in the NFL 597 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 2: or transfer. That's your county. That's who you're proud of, 598 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 2: and you know to playing. Crok Park is one of 599 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: the highest owners you can have. That stadium for a 600 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: lot of people here is like a family member almost 601 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 2: where you take your families where you take your friends 602 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: and you've had some great moments and you have had 603 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 2: some very sad moments. You don't usually play anything outside 604 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 2: of Glix sports in that stadium, So in the last 605 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 2: fifteen twenty years, obviously you've got you know, they have 606 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 2: rugby games the all the time. Now it's becoming more common. 607 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 2: Soccer happened as well. This is certainly a talking point 608 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: with people on this island at the minute that the 609 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 2: NFL is playing in the stadium atmosphere wise, and you'll 610 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 2: see it in Sunday and people watching it will see 611 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: it for you. There's no bad seat in the house, 612 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: so where you're going to be sitting in the booth 613 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: and Sunday is incredible. If you look to the left, 614 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: you'll see Dublin Town, Dublin City everywhere. It's unbelievable. And 615 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: also with the people watching the TV. When the anthems finish, 616 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: a drone comes up into the smaller stand and looks 617 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: across at everybody a sea of color, see of different jersey. 618 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: I'm biased, and I know people are sitting here going, well, 619 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 2: this guy's Irish, she's biased. Whatever. Man, imagine country roads 620 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: by like ten in Munich. I think that's what it's 621 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: going to be like. And I'm putting this on the 622 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: serious padistaline. You're I got good people here under pressure, 623 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: but I think it's going to be really, really special 624 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: and I'm probably gonna be an emotional wreck by about 625 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 2: two thirty five and some day. 626 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: No, that's amazing to think about. And just visually with 627 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: the open air on one of the sides, like it 628 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: just looks different than any other NFL game, and I 629 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: just think that will be cool. It's gonna be harder 630 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: to kick into that end or we're gonna have because 631 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: the Steelers actually have a similar issue where their field 632 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: goal kickers for the longest time, like the longest field 633 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: goal ever, so that one end where it's open air, 634 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: it was like forty six yards. It was so hard 635 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: to kick to that side. Now because kicker kickers are 636 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: just better. 637 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: They've overcome and they've got an absolute freak as well. 638 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 639 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: In Chris Boswell, it's funny you mentioned that we were 640 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 2: on a like a production call the other day. I'm 641 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: one of the guys on the call, Big Gillick sports fan, 642 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: big GF and he mentioned that whenever rugby players were 643 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 2: kicking conversion there from you know, off the ground obviously 644 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: seem as what we would have on Sunday. They were 645 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: they weren't very happy with the difference when they were 646 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: kicking into the smaller stand. I don't know why that is. 647 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: They'll obviously do maybe a deep dive not over the 648 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: next few days and that, you know, but certainly they 649 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,479 Speaker 2: find it harder to kick into that smaller stand. They 650 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 2: find it hard to kick in that stadium. Whether it's 651 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 2: the fact that there's a small it's a huge field, 652 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: but obviously the NFL field is a lot smaller. Certainly 653 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: something to look out for. If the game is like tight. 654 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be ugly. I think it's 655 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: going to be defense. 656 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: How ugly are we talking though, like like under twenty 657 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: one points total or it. 658 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: Just a lot of these overseas games get ugly, and 659 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: they get ugly high scoring sometimes in sloppy or they 660 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: get ugly like a defensive struggle with with a lot 661 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: of field goals, and that that's what I see. I 662 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: don't know if it's the time difference, just new surroundings, 663 00:30:58,920 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: whatever it is. 664 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: And they're coming in on Friday as well, which is 665 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: right which. 666 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: To me is a little crazy. I don't quite get that. 667 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: I get you're coming from, you know, the East Coast 668 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: time zone, which helps on it, you know, for the Steelers, 669 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm coming from the West Coast a little more dramatic, 670 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: but that does seem crazy to me. I just think 671 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz has been incredibly overrated off of what he 672 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: did last week. Like, you cannot expect Carson Wentz to 673 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: help you win a football game in twenty twenty five. 674 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: The best you can hope for is him to not 675 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: lose you the game, and he successfully did that last 676 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: week against team that is not very good defensively, and 677 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: early in that game he seemed a little skittish, just 678 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: holding onto the ball, taking sacks, making some bad throws. 679 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: His defense scores a bunch of points for him, and 680 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: he settled in and made some nicer throws as the 681 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: game wore on. So I think you have him on 682 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: one side and an improving pass rush with the Steelers. 683 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: Herbig was just crazy, yeah, And then on the other side, 684 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: I think it's been under sold that. Like we saw 685 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: this matchup a year ago in Tottenham. It was Brian 686 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: Flores and the Vikings versus Aaron Rodgers and it didn't 687 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: go well. And I don't think he does well against pressure, 688 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: and and people think, well he's the rare QB that 689 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: could maybe outsmart like a Brian Flores. But well he 690 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: did in the year ago in this exact spot. That 691 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: was the game where basically everyone after was like, hmm, 692 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: maybe this Jet Rogers thing is not gonna work. 693 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: And it didn't, right, it didn't. You're the first part 694 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: this might be like the savagery of poulcasts this week. 695 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 2: You are the first person to say that. So everybody 696 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 2: else is talking about in terms of like mobility were 697 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: Rogers He looks saddled enough coming in anyone I've spoke 698 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 2: to anyway. Ice had of her own podcast. Yeah, like 699 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: it was ugly last year in London. I think you 700 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: read that game as well. 701 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I was not, but I did go look 702 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: for some stats from it. 703 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 2: By the way, just go for it. 704 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: Fourty uh six for fourteen under pressure, three point one 705 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: yards per attempt and was just getting rid of the ball, 706 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: was like afraid to get hit. And that the same 707 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: thing's happened this year under pressure. This year he is 708 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: dead last of all thirty two quarterbacks who would qualify 709 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: in completion percentage under pressure. He is twenty ninth in 710 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: yards per attempt, only ahead of cam Ward Jake Browning 711 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: in bo Nicks Bonicks last place there not great and 712 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: so I think both these teams are going to get 713 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: pressure and I don't think the quarterbacks will handle it. 714 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: Which it can go a few ways. You might have 715 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: a lot of defensive scores in short fields and that 716 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: gives you points. But that's that's the type of game 717 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: that I'm seeing. 718 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: Well, I think for you from a fun perspective, first 719 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 2: and foremost, hopefully it's the game where it's it's entering, 720 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 2: it's exciting, and it's not a defensive slope best on 721 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: either side of each team, Like you want to see 722 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 2: a situation where it's close, but it's also a fun matchup. 723 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 2: Like I would like to see a scenario where Stelers 724 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: defense comes out hot, Biken's defense comes out hot. And yes, 725 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 2: you might get the sock the odd stoppage, Yeah, an 726 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: interception or two. Hell, give me throw me in a 727 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: pick sex, give give us some you know, give me 728 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 2: Rogers somehow getting the ball down the Calvin Austiner DK 729 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 2: or DK having a breakout game give me Carson Wentz 730 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: repeating last let's just make it fun, like, let's make 731 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: it like, let's just get the over and just have 732 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: some fun. On whoever wins wins, I would be really 733 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: I'd begot it, man, if there was a repeat of 734 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: like the Flores Rogers situation last year. 735 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: But that game was close in the end. It was 736 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: kind of a disappointing game in general, and I'm like you, 737 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm always rooting for these games to 738 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: be really entertaining, just to I think we have a 739 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: good product. 740 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 2: But like the first time as well, Like the first time, 741 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 2: how would you have described the game in Munich if 742 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 2: you remember? It was at the trick player that I 743 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 2: remember really was like trying to just do something Dolphins game. 744 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: I was not there, but yeah, it was hard. It 745 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 2: was hard, like there's no point in like me lyon 746 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 2: when you fly two and a half hours to Frankfurt. 747 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 2: It was hard. Just I actually went downstairs to the 748 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 2: press box which was done at the very very bottom, 749 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 2: and missed was it the inner? Was there a pick 750 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 2: six just before halftime? Yes? Watched that in TV and went, well, 751 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 2: this game is over. 752 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: I yeah, I always hope for it to be a 753 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: close game. You told me before we started you would 754 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: not be here without Henry Hodgson. Yeah, I would not either, 755 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: And I do feel like I feel a fraction of 756 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: how he must feel in all these international games, which 757 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: is I'm always just I just want it to be 758 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: a good game. But there are all sorts of different 759 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: shapes of good games. And everything about these two teams 760 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: to me screams that we won't know who's gonna win 761 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: until the final three or four minutes of this game, 762 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: and there are no great playmakers on both sides between 763 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: DK and Justin Jefferson and some of the defensive players too, 764 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: that I expect plays will be made, and that that's 765 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: that's all I want. 766 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 2: And look, if you give anybody the option of it'll 767 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 2: go down to the last three or four minutes. I guess, 768 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 2: even if it is a bit stop, start, defensively slow whatever, 769 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 2: I'll take that. 770 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: I mean, aren't you guys big enough NFL fans that 771 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: you'll be fine either way? Or do you think quality? 772 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: Like if this game is a classic, what does that 773 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: mean for like the casual iron. 774 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 2: We get three games a year, I think that has 775 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 2: to be that. I'm joking, but if then, wouldn't it 776 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 2: be great if it was a classic or if it 777 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 2: was one of those games where and I know, look, 778 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 2: let me like, and I know you've a lot of 779 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 2: people in the US listening. I know you've the Chiefs 780 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 2: Ravens this week. I know e've a massive something I 781 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 2: football match this week. I know is that the Tennessee 782 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 2: Titans play in the Houston, Texas this week. I know 783 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 2: there's a big matchup this week. But I'm joking with that. 784 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 2: But I know for a lot of people, maybe it's 785 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 2: not at the forefront. Apart from the fact that it's 786 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 2: the first ever in Ireland, it's on early So for 787 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,439 Speaker 2: those people, yeah, like I'd love to see a big game. 788 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 2: But for people that are watching here on domestic TV 789 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 2: or maybe watching you at halftime, I'll give you a 790 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: shout out in sky Sports and maybe they're going, oh yeah, 791 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 2: I'll give it a go. You know, you're talking about 792 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 2: people like Henry Hodgon about the game here. If people 793 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 2: are going to continue to watch the games, that are 794 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 2: taking flag football to maybe go to an event to 795 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 2: watch party crucial. I think that we not just have 796 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 2: a good game, but we have a very very good atmosphere. 797 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 2: Does country roads work in Dublin? I don't know. 798 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it seems weird in Germany. But whatever, this 799 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: thing along as long as I'm sure the atmosphere is 800 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: going to be great, and honestly, no matter what the 801 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: result of the game is, I think for the American 802 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: audience that's going to be more important. Oh, by the way, 803 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: you got the best broadcast crew in the business calling it. 804 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: There's a lot of good ones out there, but I 805 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: would take Joe Davis and Greg Olsen over all of them, 806 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: so that is only gonna gonna help the presentation. Appreciate you, 807 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,439 Speaker 1: Michael McQuaid, Pro Football Ireland. Where else should we check 808 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: you out this week? 809 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 2: To search pro football out a online. We're very grateful 810 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 2: that you're going to pop on a chat those day 811 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: on Friday nights, depending on the time of recording. 812 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 1: Yes, I need to, I will be there. I will 813 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 1: be there, and yes, I hope, I hope that goes 814 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 1: out live, but if not, it'll just be a moment 815 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: in time that that we had all together, which which 816 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: we had here. I appreciate you making the time and 817 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, just the last thing for you. You guys are 818 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: better than like English fans. So right, yeah, I hope, I. 819 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 2: Hope that's what you're thinking when you walk out. 820 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: But what I will say, see that was a joke 821 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: I didn't really want, but I just was seeing if 822 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: there's any sort of vibe. 823 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 2: Well, going back to what I said, I'm just to 824 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 2: finish it off as well. You know we would not 825 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 2: be here. The hard work has been into the London Games, 826 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 2: on the games internationally, and I know that that's a fun. Yeah, 827 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 2: we are a better crack, and I mean not in 828 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 2: a loving and friendly and fun way. But can I 829 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 2: also say to you I always set at the start, 830 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 2: but I do mean it's when people like yourself bring 831 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 2: you know, people like myself, you bring Irish people on, 832 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 2: et cetera. You've obviously a lot of people over here 833 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 2: to listen to your podcast. I really appreciate it. I 834 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 2: know a lot of those people do as well. So 835 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 2: Grom and all good, Thank you very very much, and 836 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 2: I hope you have a great time here and if 837 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 2: you're heading over to London, have a good time as 838 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 2: well over the next few weeks month. 839 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: And I am and and anything for a man that 840 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: that you you know, host the show with sometimes in Mark, 841 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: who's helping us produce here, who I once saw walking 842 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: through a Las Vegas casino wearing a T shirt of 843 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 1: my my other podcast, Dare VP. So I mean got 844 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: all the time in the world for that. This is 845 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: it for our pre week four set of podcasts. I 846 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: know we've been throwing a lot at you and we've 847 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,479 Speaker 1: enjoyed the hell out of it. We will be back 848 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: Sunday night to recap it all. That'll be myself, Patrick Clayban, 849 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: Jordan Rodrieg, Nick Shuck, the entire usual crew. 850 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 2: I'll just be over 851 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: Here talking about what I hope was a great game 852 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: and a great football Sunday, we were theater