WEBVTT - What the heck is Google TV?

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to tech stuff. My name is Chris Polette

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<v Speaker 1>and I am an editor here at how stuff works

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com. Sitting across from me, as he always does,

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<v Speaker 1>is senior writer Jonathan I want my, I want my

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<v Speaker 1>I want my Google TV. So do a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>other people. It's a very popular topic right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because at the time that we're recording this podcast, the

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<v Speaker 1>announcement of Google TV is is pretty much fresh. It

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<v Speaker 1>just came out the week before we're sitting down to

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<v Speaker 1>record this. Now, by the time it publishes, obviously it

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<v Speaker 1>will be around a little bit longer than that. But

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<v Speaker 1>we want to talk about what Google TV is and

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not it has a chance of succeeding and

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<v Speaker 1>UH and why other attempts at bringing internet television uh

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<v Speaker 1>to to the consumer market have not really taken off.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess the best way of doing this is

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of look at where internet TV has been

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<v Speaker 1>over the last several years. Okay, that sounds good to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So internet TV is not anything new as anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>has visited the Consumer Electronics Showcase in the last uh oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, five ten years could tell you. Internet

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<v Speaker 1>TV has been a discussion point among multiple manufacturers for

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<v Speaker 1>several years. And in fact, there are some television's out

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<v Speaker 1>there that already incorporate some sort of of Internet or

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<v Speaker 1>web based um uh content you know that you can

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<v Speaker 1>you can access. Most of them are fairly limited, and

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<v Speaker 1>that might be the big reason why it hasn't really

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<v Speaker 1>taken off. Before the televisions and set top boxes were

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<v Speaker 1>on the scene, really, the only way you were going

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<v Speaker 1>to get anything on the Internet on your television was

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<v Speaker 1>by hooking your computer up to your TV. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there's web TV the only good way to get Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>what's turned I just turned Jonathan's face a little green.

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<v Speaker 1>I think No. I actually had a friend who had

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<v Speaker 1>web TV, and I uh, I was never intrigued by

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<v Speaker 1>the product, mainly because I already had, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>computer that could access the web and uh and when

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at the product and use I I just

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<v Speaker 1>if I could tell it was not for me. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say though, that products like web TV, products

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<v Speaker 1>like DVRs, um they're all sort of factors in the

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<v Speaker 1>hype for Google TV, and then they're all sort of

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<v Speaker 1>in some way, um sort of a predecessor, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe a part of the concept behind short TV.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a unification of those things. Yeah, yeah, if you

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<v Speaker 1>will convergence, yeah yeah, it's it's definitely been an evolution. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look back at the early the early solutions

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<v Speaker 1>besides hooking a computer up to your television, the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>problem with that is it's a barrier to the average consumer.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we've talked about this before, there appears to be

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<v Speaker 1>a fundamentally intimidating factor of hooking your computer up to

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<v Speaker 1>your TV for most consumers. Now, for some of you

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<v Speaker 1>guys listening out there, you're probably thinking, Hey, I've had

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<v Speaker 1>a computer hotel to my TV for years. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>that's there's no real big deal about it. You just

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<v Speaker 1>get a couple of pieces of software, you get the

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<v Speaker 1>right cable, you hook it up, and you're ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's true. But for the average consumer who's used

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<v Speaker 1>to having a television and maybe a couple of boxes

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<v Speaker 1>that hook up directly and do all the work for you,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like it's a pretty intimidating, uh endeavor, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when you start thinking do I want to have to

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<v Speaker 1>sit down and watch my TV with a keyboard on

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<v Speaker 1>my lap in order to to see the things I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see? And a lot of consumers don't, which

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<v Speaker 1>may end up being a problem for Google TV. But

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to that. So we move beyond the hooking

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<v Speaker 1>your computer up to your television television, which some people

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<v Speaker 1>would say is still the best option, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to disagree it's gonna be hooking a

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<v Speaker 1>computer up to your TV is probably going to give

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<v Speaker 1>you the widest array of options out of anything that's

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<v Speaker 1>currently on the market. Um, but again still has that

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<v Speaker 1>intimidation factor. If you move beyond that, then we start

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the products that have slowly begun to integrate

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<v Speaker 1>web based content into their into the system. So things

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<v Speaker 1>even like ti Vo has has this right right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm TiVo and other digital video recorders in general. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>even when they just got started, they offered you the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to record video, of course, but you also had

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<v Speaker 1>things like an electronic program guide. Um, you had the

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<v Speaker 1>ability in in some cases, especially with with ti Vo,

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<v Speaker 1>to set up subscriptions. So what it would have to

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<v Speaker 1>do would be to call in to the Tebow subscription,

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<v Speaker 1>at least in the earliest versions, that would actually make

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<v Speaker 1>a phone call with the modem to get the program

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<v Speaker 1>information to use on the electronic program guide, and you

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<v Speaker 1>could say, you know what, I want to watch every

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<v Speaker 1>new episode of Lost as soon as it comes on,

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<v Speaker 1>so the TVO would go out get the information about

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<v Speaker 1>when it was on. Say ABC changes it from Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>night to Thursday night. I never watched Laws, so I

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<v Speaker 1>know I probably have gotten the dates wrong. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>just say they changed the show, whatever show it is,

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<v Speaker 1>from one night to the other. The electronic program GUDE

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be instantly updated when I instantly, but

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<v Speaker 1>when it calls in, it's gonna be updated. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>know when the show has changed. It's you know, it's changed,

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<v Speaker 1>the date, it's changed the time slot. It can go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and get that information for you. So it's far

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<v Speaker 1>more interactive than setting your TV for you know, every

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday night at eight o'clock and then finding out, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, via a paper guide manually and saying, oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>I missed Tuesday night's episode of my show because I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize that they had changed nights and time slots

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<v Speaker 1>on me and now I I'm stuck. This is far

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<v Speaker 1>more interactive. It it allows you uh some control over

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<v Speaker 1>these things without having to mess with it, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>still not accessing the Internet proper to get that information. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>later models of TVO and some of the other DVRs

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<v Speaker 1>actually do access the Internet, but if they're only accessing

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<v Speaker 1>it for the electronic program guide in the programming information

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<v Speaker 1>to get your TV shows, that's not really the same

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<v Speaker 1>as what Google TV is offering, right. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>have the devices like Roku or Apple TV, which give

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<v Speaker 1>you an access to a slice of content from the web,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not it's not unfettered access to what's on

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<v Speaker 1>the web. So, for example, with Roku, you would have

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<v Speaker 1>these various channels that they've set up where you can

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<v Speaker 1>access content from those channels, and it's not channels in

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<v Speaker 1>the sense of a cable operator. It's more like a

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<v Speaker 1>content provider. So, for example, one of the channels, which

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<v Speaker 1>of course is this is something that you can find

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<v Speaker 1>across multiple devices now, is the Netflix Instant streaming channel.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you are a Netflix subscriber and you have

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<v Speaker 1>access to the instant streaming service that they provide. You

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<v Speaker 1>can use a Roku box to access your instance streaming

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<v Speaker 1>que and and stream it to your television. So you

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<v Speaker 1>can watch this stuff that you know, Normally you might

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<v Speaker 1>think you'd have to watch it on a computer screen.

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<v Speaker 1>You can watch it on your big screen TV. Now

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<v Speaker 1>there are actually lots of different ways that you can

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<v Speaker 1>access Netflix streaming, which to me just says that Netflix

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<v Speaker 1>has got like the plan. If you're a content provider,

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<v Speaker 1>look at Netflix, because they are doing it right. They

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<v Speaker 1>you can find them across multiple platforms, including video game

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<v Speaker 1>consoles like the Xbox three sixty, the p S three,

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<v Speaker 1>and the wies, so they are going into more houses

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<v Speaker 1>than than pretty much any other content provider um and

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<v Speaker 1>other platforms as well. They have apps for uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>iPad and I believe the iPod and iPhone as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know other mobile devices, so they are they're

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<v Speaker 1>reaching out to those markets as well. So you could

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be waiting for the subway to watch your show

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<v Speaker 1>and still be able to access that. There's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>a Netflix app for Android as well, although the Android

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<v Speaker 1>app is is mainly being able to manage the que.

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<v Speaker 1>Manage the que exactly it's not to watch the content,

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<v Speaker 1>it's to manage the Q which is probably a good

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<v Speaker 1>thing because I think trying to stream that content to

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<v Speaker 1>your mobile device, especially if you're on the move, would

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<v Speaker 1>be a pretty unsatisfying experience. You would either get a

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<v Speaker 1>really poor quality video and audio or it would take

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<v Speaker 1>forever for it to stream. Well, yeah, that and it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to tax the wireless network exactly. And if you yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the other problem. And I'm sure the network providers

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to see that. So at any rate, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry you were going to say, I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>mention Apple TV, since you please. That's a little different

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<v Speaker 1>model because Apple TV um is a box that actually

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<v Speaker 1>has been on the market for quite some time. People

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<v Speaker 1>have I've been talking about the possibility that Apple may

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<v Speaker 1>kill the device because it doesn't seem like it's very popular.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh uh, you know, it's just one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>that it's a hey, wait, that's still for sale sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. But um, it's sort of an in between

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<v Speaker 1>two as far as the way it works, because you

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<v Speaker 1>might buy a show or subscribe to a show on

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<v Speaker 1>the iTunes store, have it downloaded to your Apple TV,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you connect that to your TV and watch

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<v Speaker 1>the content from there. But you're going show by show

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<v Speaker 1>and you know you're buying this and whatever is on iTunes, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't. You can't use it to access all the

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<v Speaker 1>video content that you can find across the web, which

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<v Speaker 1>is also true if the Netflix, right. Yeah, the Roku

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<v Speaker 1>box is the same way. The Roku Box you only

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<v Speaker 1>have access to the channels that Roku has made partnerships with,

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<v Speaker 1>so like major League Baseball would be another great example.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be able to watch all these Baseball games that

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<v Speaker 1>are not in your local area U through the Roku Box.

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<v Speaker 1>Other boxes also have deals with Major League Baseball. So

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<v Speaker 1>on the set top side, we have this kind limited

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<v Speaker 1>access to web content. On television's Meanwhile, there were some

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<v Speaker 1>televisions that had a little limited access to web content.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them only went with widgets, so you would

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<v Speaker 1>have a channel essentially on your TV where you could

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<v Speaker 1>go and access widgets to find things like the latest

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<v Speaker 1>news headlines, weather reports, stock tips, with that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Things that we're useful, but again it was a very

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<v Speaker 1>narrow slice of all the content that's on the web.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this leads us to Google TV, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>much broader approach to getting content from the web onto

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<v Speaker 1>your television set. Google TV is built upon Android, the

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<v Speaker 1>Android operating system Android two point one to be specific. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The web browser that it's using is the Chrome web browser,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're sticking with Google products here. That's not a

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<v Speaker 1>big surprise. And it's using the Intel Adom microprocessor to

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<v Speaker 1>generate the power it needs to both be able to

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<v Speaker 1>display video and to act as web content. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's where your your backbone is. That's your Android operating system,

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<v Speaker 1>Chrome web browser, Intel microprocessor. Uh. The idea behind Google

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<v Speaker 1>TV is that you would be able to access pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much all of the Web through your television in a

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<v Speaker 1>very in a simplified user interface, so that it looks

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<v Speaker 1>very familiar to anyone who's ever used the Chrome web browser,

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<v Speaker 1>and it integrates not just the web content, but your

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<v Speaker 1>television content as well, depending on how you're getting that

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<v Speaker 1>TV content. So let's say you're getting it via satellite

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<v Speaker 1>or cable and you want to search for a specific program,

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<v Speaker 1>you could go into Google TV on your television. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got a keyboard. This is one of the parts where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that this might be a problem because again

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<v Speaker 1>consumers don't generally want to have to have a keyboard

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<v Speaker 1>in order to access their their television programming. This might

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<v Speaker 1>be the tipping point for that. It could, it could.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this has been pretty intriguing, I think to

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people in that regard. So things, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they could search for a program on in a browser,

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<v Speaker 1>something that looks like the Chrome browser, and by searching

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<v Speaker 1>for that program, Google will search not just the the web,

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<v Speaker 1>it will search your DVR, and it might search the

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<v Speaker 1>actual live broadcasts that are coming in through whatever content

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<v Speaker 1>provider you're using, whether it's satellite or cable or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>so that it will when the results that will come

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<v Speaker 1>up will include various options. So let's say that you

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<v Speaker 1>are three episodes behind on House and you want to

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<v Speaker 1>search for House. You can search for that, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna bring up the next uh any any episodes that

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<v Speaker 1>you might have on your DVR. That will bring up

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<v Speaker 1>the result for whenever it's gonna show next live on TV,

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<v Speaker 1>and it may bring up something like Hulu where you

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<v Speaker 1>can watch the last few episodes on Hulu and m

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<v Speaker 1>and again, it's giving you access to essentially the entire web.

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<v Speaker 1>You're no longer looking at Little Pie slices. UM. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that's truly revolutionary when it comes to web based content

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<v Speaker 1>on the Internet. If you don't, if you haven't taken

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<v Speaker 1>the step of connecting a computer to the TV. Because again,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have already done that, then you you pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much have access to all of this. It's just just

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<v Speaker 1>do it yourself project as opposed to it's all coming

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<v Speaker 1>in a package with a Google And Google is working

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<v Speaker 1>with some pretty big names to to bring some products

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<v Speaker 1>to market UM, possibly as early as faul. Yes, they've

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<v Speaker 1>already been talking with people like Sony and Logitech on

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<v Speaker 1>products and and uh, there's a probability to that. I

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't even say it's a probability. It's uh, you won't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily have to connect a box to your TV. They're

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<v Speaker 1>working on TVs. They'll have the necessary equipment inside so

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<v Speaker 1>that you will be able to do this without having

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<v Speaker 1>to hook up a second piece of equipment. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>you would just hook the your your you know, however,

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting your your UM broadband service, so uh and

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<v Speaker 1>and some of the TVs may even have a WiFi

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<v Speaker 1>UH card in them so that you you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>wirelessly hook up to your home network, which is that's

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<v Speaker 1>always a good thing because you're thinking, well, good thing

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<v Speaker 1>in the sense that it's one less cable to have

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about. Of course, if you don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>very fast home network connection, then that's a problem. Or

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<v Speaker 1>if lots and lots of people are trying to access

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<v Speaker 1>a wireless network as you're running the demo for a

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<v Speaker 1>Google TV, apparently that is also a problem. Yeah, I watched,

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<v Speaker 1>so I guess you watched the key note where they

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<v Speaker 1>had multiple issues. Yeah, that's that's one of the problems

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<v Speaker 1>of any high tech keynote speech now is that everyone

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<v Speaker 1>who's in the audience is also trying to access the

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<v Speaker 1>same network you are using to give your demo. So

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<v Speaker 1>either you need a private network that no one else

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<v Speaker 1>has access to, or you need to have everything, uh

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<v Speaker 1>just run as a presentation as opposed to a live demo,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's just really hard to get through otherwise. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's a tech company around that has

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<v Speaker 1>had a live that has never had a problem with

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<v Speaker 1>a live demonstration of some kind. I guess. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>they can be thankful that they didn't have any instances

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<v Speaker 1>of showing a website with a big box with a

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<v Speaker 1>question mark on it saying that it's lacking the proper

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<v Speaker 1>plug in order to display it. Apple. Yeah, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>so the going back to to the Google TV's plan here,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think what Google TV has really managed to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what Google has managed to do is look

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<v Speaker 1>at how consumers have been getting used to accessing more

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<v Speaker 1>and more entertainment content via the web. Back when internet

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<v Speaker 1>TVs first started hitting the market, that was pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>a very niche audience. There are very few people comparatively speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>who were accessing entertainment online. For one thing, there weren't

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of official channels where you could access

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment online. So if you were accessing entertainment online, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a fair percentage that you were pirating it or

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<v Speaker 1>that you were going through some proxy site to view

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<v Speaker 1>UM television programs that were not authorized to be shown online.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh And then you started to see partnerships with companies

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<v Speaker 1>like Hulu and various content providers where you had official

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<v Speaker 1>channels where you could watch real network programming or cable

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<v Speaker 1>programming that was authorized by the content provider UM. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's when people started to say, hey, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I missed last night's episode, I didn't set the dvr,

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<v Speaker 1>um or there's this new show that I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>know about, so I didn't even know to set the DVR.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can go to Hulu and I can watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>And more and more people I think have become comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>with watching stuff online, and they're they're even comfortable watching

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<v Speaker 1>it on a small form factor like a laptop, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or uh in some cases even you know, an iPod

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<v Speaker 1>if they're getting it through iTunes. Um. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>if you ask any of them, hey, would you like

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<v Speaker 1>to have the freedom that you have accessing entertainment online

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<v Speaker 1>where you can look at things like the last five

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<v Speaker 1>episodes on Hulu of any particular show. Would you like

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<v Speaker 1>to have that freedom on your actual television where you're

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<v Speaker 1>no longer using your TV to access whatever the programming

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<v Speaker 1>is that the content providers are are allowing you to access,

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<v Speaker 1>and instead you're able to access a much larger pool

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<v Speaker 1>of content. I think most people would say, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>would love that. I just don't want a clunky interface

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<v Speaker 1>between me and the content. And that's Google TV's biggest hurdle,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, is to make that that interface as smooth

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<v Speaker 1>and easy as possible and to try and minimize the

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<v Speaker 1>impact of Hey, you're gonna need a keyboard to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to use this completely. Um. Once they're able to

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<v Speaker 1>get to that point, I think that this product could

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<v Speaker 1>have huge success. Yeah. One other advantage that Google has

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<v Speaker 1>with doing Google TV is that it's using its Android

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<v Speaker 1>operating system, and uh third party providers are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to write applications for Google TV just as

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<v Speaker 1>they would for other Google Android operating system UH platforms,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's going to be an advantage to for them. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Google will actually even have a YouTube interface um. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course Google's parent company for YouTube. UM, but there's it's

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<v Speaker 1>what it's called YouTube lean Back. It's and it's designed

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<v Speaker 1>to be couch ready, yes if you will, so you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to go in and start searching for stuff

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<v Speaker 1>using a keyboard necessarily. And we'll have it'll have pre

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<v Speaker 1>selected videos that uh that you are supposedly going to

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<v Speaker 1>be predisposed to enjoying based upon your own behaviors online

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<v Speaker 1>on YouTube and what your friends enjoy watching. So it

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<v Speaker 1>also presupposes that your friends enjoy the same things you do,

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<v Speaker 1>which thinking of my friends means I'm in I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>store for some of the scariest videos that you have

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen online, because good lord, those guys are freaks.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, how you doing? Um? So yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I think Google TV is going to be an important

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<v Speaker 1>step in the evolution of TV and computer you know,

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<v Speaker 1>convergence with that word again, um. But you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>does require the participation of the content providers. You have

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<v Speaker 1>been traditionally a little reticent to share their information. I

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<v Speaker 1>think personally, I would say that's probably because a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people associate digital with easy to copy and distribute

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<v Speaker 1>um without any regard for copyright, and that's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>true of different interfaces. And it's also associated with reduced

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<v Speaker 1>revenue because you're not getting the same amount of ad

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<v Speaker 1>revenue online as you are through television broadcast. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think Google's approach kind of circumvents that a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>because you're still getting content through your normal you know providers,

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<v Speaker 1>You're still getting content through cable and satellite. You're just

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<v Speaker 1>also able to access content on the web. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like Google's forcing content providers to to put

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<v Speaker 1>all of their stuff on the web. It's just allowing

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<v Speaker 1>customers to access the stuff that's on the web as

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<v Speaker 1>well as the stuff that's on their TV. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the right approach because it's less threatening to

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<v Speaker 1>the content providers. Right. It's not saying, hey, if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't play our game, then you're gonna get left behind.

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<v Speaker 1>It's saying, we're giving customers more options and they still

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<v Speaker 1>want to watch your content. If it's good content, they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go and say, oh, it's eight o'clock, I need

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<v Speaker 1>to tune into MythBusters, which is an awesome show. You

0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:53.920
<v Speaker 1>know they're still gonna do that. It's not saying that

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<v Speaker 1>you need to put MythBusters online or else no one

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<v Speaker 1>will watch it, which I mean everyone knows that that's

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<v Speaker 1>not true because they're awesome. Well of course, um, but

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<v Speaker 1>actually that I think two. You can see signs of

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<v Speaker 1>that in the the partnerships developed are developing, I should say,

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<v Speaker 1>rather around the TV Everywhere initiatives, which are basically started

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<v Speaker 1>by Time Warner and by comcasts who basically are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find ways to get content providers on board and

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<v Speaker 1>offer access to a subscriber's TV shows anywhere. Um. In

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<v Speaker 1>this case, a subscriber to the cable services of one

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<v Speaker 1>of those companies would be able to watch their favorite

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<v Speaker 1>shows on a TV or what they log in, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the proper, proper credentials. They could watch it on their

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<v Speaker 1>laptop or on their desktop computer at work when they're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be doing something important. Um. But but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they're on I never ever Thorty Rock. But perhaps

0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:02.920
<v Speaker 1>they're on the road. You have a busy executive who's

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<v Speaker 1>on the road, has a difficult time watching his or

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<v Speaker 1>her favorite shows and can tune in anywhere regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>where it is by using this initiative. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that some of the content or fighters are going, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if they're paying us via a subscription, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we can identify them as a paid subscriber, then maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's not so bad. And also no, no, please continue,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't interrupt. Well no, no, Um there there's another

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<v Speaker 1>Dish network also has a TV Everywhere initiative that is

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<v Speaker 1>a little different because they a couple of years ago

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<v Speaker 1>purchased sling Media, which makes the Slingbox place shifting technology

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<v Speaker 1>that allows you to watch content from your DVR box

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<v Speaker 1>on different media and it's sort of circumvents the whole

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<v Speaker 1>necessary I mean that's baked in you have to log

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<v Speaker 1>into these services. Speaking a Dish Network subscriber and former employee, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>you you actually UM log in to the soft where

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<v Speaker 1>you have to have a log into that account to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to see the information coming from your DVR

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<v Speaker 1>or from your your set top box. So it essentially

0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:10.359
<v Speaker 1>achieves the same purpose. As long as you're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>using enabled hardware and you're logged in, you have access

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<v Speaker 1>to the programming for which you are already paying. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think content providers are a little bit more okay

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<v Speaker 1>with that. Yeah, And the reason you would want something

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<v Speaker 1>like that is one it allows you to keep up

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<v Speaker 1>with things like the local news, which you wouldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily if you were on the road, or sporting events.

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<v Speaker 1>Sporting events are huge, that's the biggest That's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest hurdle for web tv because UM sporting events

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<v Speaker 1>have their own set of really complex rules about where

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<v Speaker 1>they can and can't be shown. So if you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to catch the local game of your your home sports

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<v Speaker 1>team and you're in a different market, UM, you have

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<v Speaker 1>only a few options. One of them is to be

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<v Speaker 1>let let's say it's baseball, then one of your options

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<v Speaker 1>is to be a subscriber to Major League Baseball's online

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<v Speaker 1>service where, which would allow you to watch games that

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<v Speaker 1>are when you are outside of that market. Another would

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<v Speaker 1>be the slingbox that is that you were talking. But

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<v Speaker 1>as for the Television Everywhere UH initiative, the nice thing

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<v Speaker 1>about Google TV is I don't think it competes with

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<v Speaker 1>that at all. No, not really. It's actually kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a supplement to it, really because again, it would just

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<v Speaker 1>give you another way of accessing the online portion. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's say that, let's say that your agreement with Comcast

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<v Speaker 1>where you can access the the programming either online or

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<v Speaker 1>UH or on your television because you're already a Comcast subscriber. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>if it allows you to access any back episodes, or

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<v Speaker 1>if it allows you to watch any episode that previously aired,

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<v Speaker 1>or for up to a week. Let's say so, let's

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<v Speaker 1>say that Tuesday's new episode of such and such came

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<v Speaker 1>on and it's Thursday, you missed it. If you're able

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<v Speaker 1>to log onto the Comcast one and still watch Tuesday's

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<v Speaker 1>episode up until the following Tuesday, UM, that would still

0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:59.080
<v Speaker 1>be useful on your Google TV, assuming you didn't already

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<v Speaker 1>have some sort of DVR built in there. You would

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<v Speaker 1>be able to go back and watch the episode you

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<v Speaker 1>had missed because you were subscribed to that program. So, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know really any of the other details about

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<v Speaker 1>Google TV, like is it a subscription based model, is

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<v Speaker 1>it just a product, is it is the price of

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<v Speaker 1>the product just built into whatever it is you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be purchasing. We don't really know all of those details yet. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm really interested in is the potential of using

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<v Speaker 1>something like Google TV and marrying that with things like

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<v Speaker 1>video games, so that you could use a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I could see that Google TV evolving to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where you could subscribe to a video game service and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the cloud video game systems that we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about in the past, you would be able to

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<v Speaker 1>play video games over your broadband connection without the need

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<v Speaker 1>for a disk or anything like that. And so, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to jump on a game and play a

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<v Speaker 1>few first person shooter multiplayer games, you might be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do it through Google TV in the future, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And they haven't talked about that, but it's a possibility. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>as as we've been talking about this, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>would have to say that I see this not as

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<v Speaker 1>an end point but just another step in the convergence

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<v Speaker 1>of content and platform. So basically, we'll have content coming

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<v Speaker 1>from multiple sources and you can watch it on multiple platforms. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we could ultimately get to the point where it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a giant stream of content and the way you access

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<v Speaker 1>it is up to you. Yeah, that's that's probably where

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<v Speaker 1>we are ultimately heading. But it'll still take a while

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<v Speaker 1>before we get there, because I mean, we're moving from

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<v Speaker 1>one established model into something that's still being kind of

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<v Speaker 1>of formed as we speak, so it'll be a while

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<v Speaker 1>before we get there. But it's definitely an exciting future.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fascinating to watch to just to to see what

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of content are enduring. And the ones that, for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's even more funny are the ones that the models

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<v Speaker 1>that they predict will be dying any minute now, and

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<v Speaker 1>that just you know, people really like things like TV.

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<v Speaker 1>They just want to be able to watch it in

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<v Speaker 1>different places. I think. I think part of the danger

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<v Speaker 1>is that we look at the folks who are way

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<v Speaker 1>way way ahead of the average consumer, and we're basing

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's behavior upon a very small sample population and that's

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<v Speaker 1>always dangerous because there's always gonna be some people who

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<v Speaker 1>will run out and adopt something that doesn't necessarily mean

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<v Speaker 1>it will be successful. Uh, look at all the people

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<v Speaker 1>who adopted LaserDisc or HD DVD UM. These are things

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<v Speaker 1>that that met with initial success but ultimately didn't make

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<v Speaker 1>a huge impact in the overall market. Yeah. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still trying to find a way to hook up my

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<v Speaker 1>Beta Max to my slingbox. Good luck with that. So,

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<v Speaker 1>uh well, that wraps up that discussion. Let's let's hit

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<v Speaker 1>a little listener mail. This listener mail comes from Angela,

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<v Speaker 1>and Angela says, in morning, Chris and Jonathan, Hey, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you know? We're recording this in the morning study afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>While listening to your recently aired episode, I became increasingly

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<v Speaker 1>interested in learning more about Ada Lovelace. I opened Google

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<v Speaker 1>Chrome and began searching for any type of media about her.

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<v Speaker 1>I opened four tabs Google etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. She wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to know, is there a search engine that could encompass

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<v Speaker 1>all of the websites that she wanted to search, consolidate

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<v Speaker 1>them into one largely organized search result. And Uh, if

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<v Speaker 1>there is, what is it and Chris you had an

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<v Speaker 1>answer for Angela, Yeah, directly. The first thing I thought

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<v Speaker 1>of was role yo, which is r O L L

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<v Speaker 1>y o dot com. And it's a way to, uh

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<v Speaker 1>basically create your own search engine. You you can search

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<v Speaker 1>multiple websites at one time, and you can specify which ones. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It's a it's a very customizable platform. You

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<v Speaker 1>can create an account and have multiple search engines by

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, you you have your own uh search

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<v Speaker 1>roles um you know that you can use for different platforms,

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<v Speaker 1>especially useful if you have multiple searches. You know, in

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<v Speaker 1>this case, she had something that she was looking for

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<v Speaker 1>in particular, but if she does a lot of searching

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<v Speaker 1>on those same websites for topics like that, she's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>want to create an account, uh to do that so

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<v Speaker 1>she can, you know, bring that up in a moment's notice.

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<v Speaker 1>You can also their plug ins for different browsers as

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<v Speaker 1>well that use that. But there are other meta search

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<v Speaker 1>engines such as Dogpile or Clusty that search multiple search engines, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Yahoo, being Google and all those others at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, so that you're getting the multiple the

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<v Speaker 1>effect of searching a whole bunch of search engines at once,

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<v Speaker 1>because not all of them use the same algorithms to

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<v Speaker 1>bring up content, so it can be very useful. But

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<v Speaker 1>Rollo is a lot more customizable and you can search

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<v Speaker 1>individual websites like right. So Rollo is kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>the precision Uh, you're using a scalpel to go and

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<v Speaker 1>try and whereas the other one is like you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing widespread bombing right right. It's a difference precision

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<v Speaker 1>and recall, and you probably don't want me to launch

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<v Speaker 1>into that right at any rate. Hopefully that answers your question, Angela,

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