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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With

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Speaker 1: and welcome to tech stuff. My name is Chris Polette

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Speaker 1: and I am an editor here at how stuff works

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Speaker 1: dot Com. Sitting across from me, as he always does,

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Speaker 1: is senior writer Jonathan I want my, I want my

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Speaker 1: I want my Google TV. So do a lot of

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Speaker 1: other people. It's a very popular topic right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because at the time that we're recording this podcast, the

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Speaker 1: we want to talk about what Google TV is and

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Speaker 1: whether or not it has a chance of succeeding and

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Speaker 1: UH and why other attempts at bringing internet television uh

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Speaker 1: And I guess the best way of doing this is

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Speaker 1: over the last several years. Okay, that sounds good to me.

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Speaker 1: So internet TV is not anything new as anyone who

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Speaker 1: has visited the Consumer Electronics Showcase in the last uh oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, five ten years could tell you. Internet

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Speaker 1: several years. And in fact, there are some television's out

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Speaker 1: by hooking your computer up to your TV. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: mean there's web TV the only good way to get Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: what's turned I just turned Jonathan's face a little green.

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Speaker 1: I think No. I actually had a friend who had

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Speaker 1: I will say though, that products like web TV, products

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Speaker 1: a fundamentally intimidating factor of hooking your computer up to

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Speaker 1: And they haven't talked about that, but it's a possibility. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is up to you. Yeah, that's that's probably where

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Speaker 1: we are ultimately heading. But it'll still take a while

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Speaker 1: It's fascinating to watch to just to to see what

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Speaker 1: They just want to be able to watch it in

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Speaker 1: different places. I think. I think part of the danger

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Speaker 1: a huge impact in the overall market. Yeah. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: uh well, that wraps up that discussion. Let's let's hit

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Speaker 1: a little listener mail. This listener mail comes from Angela,

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Speaker 1: You can also their plug ins for different browsers as

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Speaker 1: you know, Yahoo, being Google and all those others at

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