1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Beat your Happy Hour. I'm 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Joe and I'm Serena, and we are here today to 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: recap episode number four of The Golden Bachelor. 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: We are what'd you think of the episode? 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: What did I think? Overall? I thought it was I 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: thought it was your typical middle of the pack episode. 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: Kind of shocked at the end that like, there's only 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: six women left. Nicole is definitely now, you know, for 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: a lack of a better term, the villain of the season. Uh, 10 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: because you know that's how it's looking, right, right or wrong? 11 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: I mean it was I guess like the influencer stuff, 12 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: like all right, whatever, like go off, you want to 13 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 1: be an influencer. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. 14 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: The calling the women from the previous season not attractive, 15 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: that's you're gonna have a hard time with that one. 16 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I tend to agree, but. 17 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, yeah, I mean if if 18 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: if if I was on, like, let's say my season, 19 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: I was like, well, the guys in last season aren't 20 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: as looking as us. I don't think that would be 21 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: a big deal. 22 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 2: The thing is, it's actually funny you say that, because 23 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: I think if a guy said it, it wouldn't be 24 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: a bit, It wouldn't be a big deal. Like if 25 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: one of the Golden Men was like, well, I'm happy 26 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: because this is a really good looking group of guys. 27 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: You know last season you kind of be like, that's 28 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: a bit of a weird thing to say, but like 29 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: you wouldn't think much of it. But like having Nicle, 30 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: like one of the women say it, it definitely cuts deeper. 31 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: I think also when she's objectively like incredibly attractive for 32 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: her to then be commenting like, oh, I'm really relieved 33 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: that this group of women is so great looking because 34 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: you know that last cast. 35 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: Let's recap from the beginning, from the. 36 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: Beginning, all right, So the episode starts off with Peg 37 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: my girl. She gets a one on one date and 38 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: they go to the amusement park in Orange County. What 39 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: did you think overall? 40 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: I I I like Peg. If anything is it Peg? 41 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: Is it Peg? 42 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: Oh? 43 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: No? Maybe not? I don't know. I don't know. I 44 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: don't know if there's Do you think he likes her? 45 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 2: I think he does really like her, and I do 46 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: think they have a connection, but I don't know if 47 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: after this date, I think she's the strongest connection I 48 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 2: think that she is very in jettic and playful and fun, 49 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: and she's got a great personality. She's super smart, like 50 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: she's got all the things. But they just seem to 51 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: vibrate on different frequencies. Wow, what don't you agree? Like 52 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: so much? 53 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: I do. She wasn't expecting you to say it like that. 54 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, Well that's what I went with, and 55 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 2: I stand by it. 56 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: I enjoyed it that she is. But I think they 57 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: are vibrating on different frequencies. 58 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, And I think sometimes that works, you know, 59 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if it works here 60 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: or not. I'm not sure. I feel like we have 61 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: to wait and see how they evolve. 62 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: Something's missing, and then I'm. 63 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: Not even I feel like a lot of the time 64 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: our feedback on these dates is like, oh my gosh, 65 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: I love her, but I just don't see her like 66 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: a romantic connection between them. I actually do see a 67 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: romantic connection between them. I just don't know if they 68 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: are actually like fit. 69 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, something's off. 70 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what it is. 71 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think I like her. She's mentioned that 72 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: her you know, her marriage ended because of infidelity. Yes, 73 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: doesn't really say, who was the cheater out of. 74 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: The group said that her husband cheated on her? Is 75 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: that on her her interview? 76 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: I mean I kind of felt that's what she was saying. 77 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: I thought it was an interesting way of saying it. 78 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: When she presented to me, she said, my marriage ended 79 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: due to infidelity. If I'm my first follow up question 80 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 2: is and on what side committed the infidelity? You know, 81 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: not that we're going to like hold it against her, 82 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: but like I think that's something you want to know. Yeah, 83 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: like if because if that was me, some fingers who 84 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: did it, Yeah, I. 85 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: Would be like, yeah, my marriage ended because my next 86 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: wife cheated. That's why. That's why if I was the cheater, 87 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: I'd be like, there was infidelity. So, you know, I 88 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: mean I'm a little suspicious of the phrasing. 89 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, she you know, she talks about PEG's definitely 90 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: got like a bit of like a fun wild side, 91 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: talks about like her tattoos, and they bond over, you know, 92 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 2: their divorces and they definitely have things in common again 93 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: like kind of like, oh. 94 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: She did say she's got a tattoo that she can't 95 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: show on TV. But if they make it to the 96 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: fantasy suites and Mel seemed to like that. 97 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sure he did like that. I like that. 98 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: I thought that was like a great move on Pegs 99 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: yeah herself there, and then they went to the concert, 100 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: which was what's that band's name again? I totally knew 101 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: the song like the minute I heard it. 102 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: Casey in the Sunshine Band. I will say I'm not 103 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: a fan of the concert dates. I just feel embarrassment 104 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: for them, even though they don't they don't look bad. 105 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: I would just be in that situation. I would just 106 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: be like I would be so embarrassed. I'd just be 107 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: like a wreck when they would when like the band 108 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: would be like and now everybody give it up for 109 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: the Golden Bachelor date, I'd be like, oh my god. 110 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: You know what's actually so funny is watching it Like 111 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: Mel is a little bit stiffer, and he also seems 112 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: like someone that doesn't want to be filmed while watching 113 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: a concert, whereas Peg is just like jumping around living 114 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 2: her best life. And I actually feel like that is 115 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: what you and I would look like if we were 116 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: on that date. Like you would be like, literally get 117 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: me out of here, and I would be like, what 118 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 2: do you mean? We're having so much fun. 119 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is exactly how that would go down. 120 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: But I get what you're saying, Like watching someone watch 121 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 2: something else and being watched watching something else. It's just 122 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: a little bit not comfortable. 123 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all. That's all I'm saying. 124 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: All right, So she gets the rose, No surprise there. 125 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: Moving on, hold this episode. The first thing we see 126 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: her saying this episode is that she does not see 127 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: chemistry between Peg and mal, which, you know what, I 128 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: kind of respect her honesty. 129 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: Who Nicole, Yeah, she said she doesn't see chemistry between Yeah, listen, Hey. 130 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: That's her opinion, Like she's allowed to have She is 131 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: allowed to have an opinion. It doesn't mean she's right 132 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: or wrong. That's just from what she seen, she doesn't 133 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: see chemistry there. And I actually think we need to 134 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: bring back people not being afraid to share their opinions 135 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: on television. 136 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: Give us something television. 137 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: Let's be clear, we're talking about reality television. 138 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, give us give us something to watch. And right now, 139 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: you know, disagree with they're all you want. Nicole's giving 140 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: us something to watch. She's being She's given her opinions, 141 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: and they're a little polarizing, and I'm fucking here for it. 142 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm not bad of her being an interview 143 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: being like, yeah, I don't really see the chemistry there, 144 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,559 Speaker 2: and you know what, everyone reserves the right to change 145 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: their mind. She's not saying like they should never end 146 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: up together. She's just like, I don't see it. Yeah, 147 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: and maybe we'll interview her later. She'll be like, actually, 148 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: I watched the show and I do see it now, 149 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: I get it, but I I I'm forming controversy on 150 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: the show. A little polarizing personality. 151 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: Nicolevo is kind of she is giving a little bit 152 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: like I the only one that really has chemistry is 153 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: me A little bit. 154 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would love to know who Nicole 155 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: thinks he does have chemistry with. That's not her. Okay, 156 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: So we see she is sitting with the ladies. They're 157 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: having a hang out in the kitchen, and she is 158 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: basically saying, I'm not just dating mal I'm dating America. 159 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: Bad thing to say. 160 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: Don't say it, Nicole, don't say that. 161 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: Do not say that. Now I think she likes mel 162 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: I just I mean, yeah, don't say that. 163 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: Next up on the list of things she probably shouldn't 164 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: have said was she said the last cast wasn't as attractive. 165 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: Definitely, don't say that. 166 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: I don't say that. 167 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: There's just no way that's gonna go over well with anyone. 168 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: No, no. And another thing that was the main top 169 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: of conversation was she basically. 170 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm actually really curious to see what Kathy has to 171 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: say about that. So, Kathy, if you're listening to this podcast, 172 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for your. 173 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 2: That was really all I could think about when I 174 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 2: was watching this is what Kathy was thinking and what 175 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 2: she's gonna. 176 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: Say about Kathy is not gonna like that. 177 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: No she is not, and she's gonna have something to 178 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 2: say about it. To close out, she then talks about 179 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: how she wants a cooking show or to be an 180 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: influencer focused on how healthy food products and that you 181 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: know this, you know she was comparing herself to like 182 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: they're going to be like the next Real Housewives, Like 183 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: they're going to have these followings and you know they're 184 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: not on the show season after season, but like there 185 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: is an opportunity. Look, as much as you shouldn't say it, 186 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 2: Nicole gets what's going on. 187 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: Here, yeah, to an extent, but like, yeah, I just 188 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: that's not that just never goes overwhell No. 189 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: It doesn't. And you know you've got Peg sitting next 190 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: to her, who just had this like beautiful date and 191 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: she's like, I'm just here for a nice guy, and 192 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: like that's kind of the nail on the coffin front 193 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 2: Nicole in this conversation, because you've got these women who 194 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: are like, I'm literally just here for love and Nicole's 195 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: here for business opportunities. But if we're going to start 196 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 2: cutting the regular season contestant slack on the fact that 197 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: they are aware that they can profit and benefit their 198 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: careers from the show afterwards, I think is it like 199 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: right to now condemn Nicole for it, because I feel 200 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: like we're starting to move away from that on the 201 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: normal seasons. We're starting to like not villainize people for 202 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: recognizing that, like social media exists and like you might 203 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: make a couple bucks after this show. 204 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: Well I don't. I don't think she will get villainiced 205 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: for saying it. I think it's I think it's unfortunately. 206 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: I think it's how it comes off because if she 207 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, like if this doesn't work out with mel, 208 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: like maybe maybe I could become an influencer. Like a 209 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: lot of people watch the show. That's fine, right, She's 210 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: essentially saying like, I'm not just dating mel, I'm dating America. 211 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: Like and I'm building a brand and I'm working for 212 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: So it. 213 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: Does seem like it does seem like that's almost that's 214 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: like priority number one. So it's like, if you know, 215 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: it's totally fine to recognize that you could gain a 216 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: following after and career opportunities could come from it. But 217 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: if you're there for that and you really don't have 218 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: any intentions of ending up with the lead, then that's 219 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: that's where you're going to get villainized. But I think 220 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: where she's going to catch a lot of heat is 221 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: for saying that they're a better looking guess than the 222 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: last one. Like that, you're going to catch heat for that. 223 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,599 Speaker 2: Then we're moving on to the group date. It's a 224 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: People magazine photo shoot. 225 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: They also also she also took credit for like the 226 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: lemon cookies, but they all made that. 227 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we'll get into that, don't worry. That is 228 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: in my notes for sure. But it's basically, you know, 229 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: they all pick their costume and they do a photo show. 230 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: I feel like we kind of see this every season, 231 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: like a different version of it. Nicole runs right up 232 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: to mouth and is like hugging him and kissing him, 233 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: and you hear her say, you know, we're the power couple, right, 234 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: And like this girl is playing chess like everyone here 235 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: is playing checkers, like she's playing chess, like they're playing softball, 236 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: like she's playing hardball, like she is gunning for that 237 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: final rose every chance she gets. 238 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I do think I think I also think 239 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,599 Speaker 1: she likes him, like I don't. I think she doesn't. 240 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: Strike me as someone that would be putting it all 241 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: out there for someone that she really didn't find intelligent, attractive, 242 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 2: worthy of her time. Yeah, I agree, Like I actually 243 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 2: don't think she would be all over this man if 244 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: she wasn't genuinely interested in Yeah, I agree, I agree. 245 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: But you know she's she's laying it on thick, especially 246 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: in front of the other women, so you know you're 247 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: you're gonna get some side eye there. 248 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 249 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: All right. So we see Debbie gets the wedding dress. 250 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: She's the beach bride. It's kind of she's never wore emotional. Yeah, 251 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: she's never worn a wedding dress before. I feel like 252 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: after this episode, I thought the scene was so sweet 253 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: and I really like Debbie. I think we can put 254 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: the whole like never been married thing to bed. I 255 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 2: feel like the show like is really leaning into that, 256 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: and it's like, Okay, I get it, she's never been married, Like, 257 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 2: tell me something else about Debbie. She works out she's 258 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: never been married, Like, I want to learn a little 259 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,239 Speaker 2: bit more about her personality. 260 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: But you've been covering this show now for how long 261 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: and been watching it for how long? They don't just 262 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: drop things that's not getting dropped, that will be there 263 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: until the very end. 264 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, you're right, Nicole, Carol and Cindy do 265 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: a little like morning after photoshoot. Carol is really uncomfortable 266 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: because her costume is just a towel, and she's definitely 267 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: more reserved. I think Carol's also hyper aware of the 268 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: fact that she has children, children, and a lot of 269 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: people watching her, and you know, maybe in the privacy 270 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: of a dark bar she gets a little wild. But 271 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: like on television, she wants to present herself in a 272 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: certain light, and that's totally fair. I can totally understand that. 273 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: I think she comes across very classy. 274 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: Very classy. I agree, Melan Cindy get their kind of 275 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: special extra time for one on one photo shoot. I 276 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: think that might be the strongest connection. 277 00:14:59,480 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. 278 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: Like I know, in the beginning we were hesitant about 279 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: Cindy because we were like, she's already having such a 280 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: hard time, it usually doesn't go over well, and like 281 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: it still might not. But I actually think watching them 282 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 2: interact in this episode, their connection was like the strongest 283 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: to me. 284 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. I think I think I think 285 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: they really like each other. I also I think it 286 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: may not be apparent to us as a viewer, but 287 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: I think I don't think I think Mel. I think 288 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: if you're a woman on the show, you could tell 289 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: who Mel is really into totally. And I don't know 290 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: if if you see that fully watching it on the television, 291 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: but I think when Mel's like, I think Mel is really. 292 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: Into her Cindy. Yeah, yeah, I think so too. And 293 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: I really like them together, like I really, I really 294 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: see it. They seem very comfortable. There's definitely like sexual chemistry. 295 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: They look beautiful. They seem like very intes sitting each other, 296 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: like when they're having conversation, they're very locked in on 297 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: it and what each other's saying. So yeah, Carol has 298 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: her one on one chat with Mel. I don't know 299 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 2: why this conversation, Like I don't want to say bugged me, 300 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: but like, I know Mal is trying to get Carol 301 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: out of her shell. But I think it's okay that 302 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: she's reserved, Like I think that's just who she is 303 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: in this environment. And I also don't think he's like 304 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: giving her a lot. 305 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: Well, she's like I don't. 306 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: Like, I'm like, well, you should get out of your 307 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: shell too, like both of you are reserved. 308 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: Well, she said, I don't kiss a guy like I 309 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: want the guy to kiss me. And Mel's kind of 310 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: like lean back, like not. 311 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: Really, No, he's like lounging on the cap. 312 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: Yeah he's not really, So it's either I honestly, I 313 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: think it could just be he's just not that into her. 314 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: I don't get the vibe he's crazy into her. I 315 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: think he likes her, but like, I just don't think 316 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: that they fit in terms of their personalities because I 317 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: think they both want to be pursued. Like Mel doesn't 318 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 2: strike me as like a major pursuer. He seems to 319 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 2: like the more like strong women who are like more outgoing. 320 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 2: You know, we see Nicole, we see pegs are. 321 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: Like when you're when you're the lead, and you you 322 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: go into being the lead and you're not someone that's 323 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: like a pursuer, a major pursuer. It makes it so 324 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: much easier when all these women are are coming at 325 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: you strong, because then you are going to get lazy 326 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: with it. You're going to be like, this is this 327 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: is how it should be. 328 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: And he can get lazy with it because the women 329 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: have to put themselves out there in order to like 330 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: make the most of their time. So it kind of works. 331 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 2: But if you're a contestant like Carol, who she wants 332 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: to feel pursued, like she wants to feel courted, she 333 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: wants to feel like he's attracted to her and like 334 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 2: is excited about her and wants to kiss her, And 335 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: I don't think he really gives her that energy. So 336 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: I just think that it's kind of like a uh, 337 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: what's it called, like a square peg, round hole situation, 338 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: Like they're just not aligning. 339 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: To me, Well, it's a little ridiculous what we're doing here, 340 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: just in general of like like the lead just has 341 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: such an advantage, Like it's just crazy, Like we actually 342 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: like kind of step back and just look at this 343 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: for a moment. 344 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: Of like Mal could do like nothing and it would 345 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 2: so work. 346 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: Out for you. Yeah, Like the lead is just like 347 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: like you're there's only one of you and there's thirty 348 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: of them, like it's and they like and they are 349 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: like I want to end up with this part, Like 350 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: it's just crazy. Yeah, it's just such an advantage you 351 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: can really do, Like to fuck up as the lead, 352 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: you really have to fuck up, Yeah, you really do, 353 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: and like it's it's been done well. 354 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: Because usually the leads that fuck up they resistant. Mal 355 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: is not resisting literally anything. He's like, I'm I'm going 356 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 2: with the flow. I'm just handing up my roses and 357 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: I'm going on these dates and I'm chatting with these women. 358 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: Have I seen him go like above and beyond yet? No. 359 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: As long as you as long as you're the lead 360 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: and you go with the flow and you don't tell 361 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: more than two women. 362 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 2: You love them, you're probably gonna be fine. 363 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: You're you're, you're, you're fine when you when you go 364 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: over to when you start throwing the love word around 365 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: a lot. 366 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when it gets start, when it gets dark. 367 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: But other than that, you really can't. Like, there's not 368 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: too many things you could do wrong. 369 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: No, but I mean somehow they happen to do it 370 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: a lot. Yeah, but Mel's in the Claire. Mel's gonna 371 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 2: be He's gonna be a home run. He's gonna get 372 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: all the way to the end. He's he already did 373 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: his controversial moment with his podcast interview before the show. 374 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 2: He had his controversy, got it out of the way. 375 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: He's gonna flow through the season. He's gonna get engaged 376 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: and it's gonna be all good. 377 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is great. I mean, yeah, he got rid 378 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: of the controversy right off. The said something stupid right 379 00:19:58,960 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: at the beginning and. 380 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: This apologized and moved on. I like it. But I 381 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: like Carol and I'm proud of her for putting herself 382 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: out of her comfort zone and kissing mouth. 383 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: We're also having Carol on this week, so we will 384 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: talk to her more. Make sure you tune in for that. 385 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: Another highlight on this date is Robin tells Mel he 386 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 2: thinks that some people aren't being authentic. She thinks people 387 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: aren't being authentic and he says, well, what do you 388 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: what does that mean? And she says, not here for 389 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 2: the right reasons, and he basically says, I don't think 390 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: that's true. He squashed that real quick. 391 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:46,239 Speaker 1: She didn't fully commit, because if you're gonna go, if 392 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna go tell the lead on someone, you need 393 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: to tell on the person, you can't. You can't. 394 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: You can't, you can't dip your towel. 395 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't do it like that. And Mal was like, 396 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck, Like I'm sixty five, I 397 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: don't care if they're here for the wrong reasons. I 398 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: don't even think they are. And it just doesn't bother 399 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: me at all. 400 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: No, he didn't care one bit, and I kind of yeah, 401 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. This conversation was I think that Robin 402 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: had the best of intentions. I don't think she did 403 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 2: anything wrong per se. And I just agree with you. 404 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 2: We're like either typically from watching the show, we've watched 405 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: so many seasons, what works is either you don't say 406 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 2: anything at all and you just wait for things to 407 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: play out, or you go in with a detailed story. 408 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 2: You say, this is who's saying it, this is what 409 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 2: they're saying, this is why all the girls in the 410 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: house are pissed off about it. Do with that watch 411 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: you will. 412 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, if I was the lead, I wouldn't carry you. 413 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: I'd be like, I'll make that judge them call on 414 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: my own. Yeah, you know, like I don't care. 415 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, someone I guess if I was the lead and 416 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: someone came to me, they're like some people are inauthentic. 417 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: I'd be like, yeah, like, welcome to the globe. Like 418 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: every room you walk into, you're gonna find a couple 419 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 2: inauthentic people, Like that's just how the story goes. 420 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's and it's just like the person saying 421 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: it's not like the leads is not gonna be like OMG, 422 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: like you are, like I think I love you. 423 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 2: And you're saving me from a life of misery. Yeah, 424 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: like one of these liars, it's like. 425 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: Let's run away now, Like that's just never going to happen. 426 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: I don't think that was her gold though. I think 427 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: she care. 428 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: I think she did it. Yeah, I think she did 429 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: it because she's like I was sitting there listening to 430 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: this conversation. I think he deserves to know, but she 431 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: needed to bring more details. Yes, you're just doing it 432 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,239 Speaker 1: that way, You're just like well. 433 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 2: I also think maybe she was thinking I'm not going 434 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 2: to say who unless he asks me, Like if he 435 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: is interested in. Is like, wait, that concerns me. I 436 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 2: want to know who. Maybe she would have then told. 437 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: Him, Yeah, alst like I got like seven days to 438 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: fantasy suitees, like, just let's just get through this. Just 439 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: let me do my thing, all right. 440 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: Harrol gets the group date Rose. We jump to the 441 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 2: tailgate party. It's a cocktail party during the day. They 442 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 2: were doing beer pong with prune juice, which you know, 443 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: ha ha, I get it, like, you know, golden people 444 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 2: drink prune juice. Cheryl has a chat with Mel. She 445 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 2: kind of says, like, you feel like my prince, I 446 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: feel like a princess, which I think is very sweet 447 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 2: and like kind of how you should feel when you're 448 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 2: falling in love. But Mel's response makes me think Cheryl's 449 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 2: probably going home next week. 450 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 451 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: I don't think he was really resonating her excitement and 452 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: enthusiasm about the relationship. He wasn't meeting it. 453 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: It just sounded I'm just like, yeah, like I don't know, 454 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: like I don't know, I just like the prince princess thing, 455 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: and just I would be weirded out by. 456 00:23:54,960 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 2: That, Okay, Cindy. I just think he's the most like 457 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 2: cutesy with her, Like going back to the theme of 458 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: like feeling like a kid, like they give me like 459 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: teenagers in love when I see them hanging out and talking. Yeah, 460 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 2: like he seems the most sweet and cutesy with her. 461 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: That's why I don't think he's gonna pick her. 462 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, because riding for Team Cindy right now. 463 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: Because I just feel like she's I I don't know, 464 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: I could be totally wrong. I just feel like she's 465 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: gonna be the one that's heartbroken at the end or. 466 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: Like can't handle like fantasy sweets or something. 467 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I just don't I just don't think 468 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna be her. And it could be, they could, 469 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: really could. I just think she's for whatever reason, I 470 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: can't really like pinpoint it, but I just think she's 471 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: gonna be number two. 472 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 2: Damn. 473 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: I still think that'd be's the winner. I think. But 474 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: like I could also see Peg being the one at 475 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: the end too. Yes, I can see Peg coming around 476 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: really wrong at the end, similar to it's like similar to. 477 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 2: Uh wow, you're really on the same wavelength with that one. 478 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's just like it's like the same. I just 479 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: feel like all of a sudden at the end, You're 480 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: gonna be like, how did I not see this the 481 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: whole time? It was her the whole time. 482 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what I'm looking for when I'm trying 483 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 2: to like decipher who these strongest connections are, is who 484 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 2: I feel like kind of like breaks Mel's shell a 485 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 2: little bit. I'm like having a hard time seeing him 486 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 2: really like excited and enthusiastic about anyone right now. But 487 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 2: those Peg and Cindy and Debbie I think would be 488 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: the three at this point in the season that I 489 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 2: feel like he's shown the most sweetness towards and the 490 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: cole Nicole Nicle. I think he's very attractive to her, 491 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: and I think he I think he likes the fact 492 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: that she's pursuing him. Yeah, I think he finds that exciting. 493 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 2: So yeah, those would be my top four right now. 494 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: And Shockers and who went home? 495 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 2: No surprise is there for me. 496 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 1: I mean, if I was Jerry when he came out 497 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: at the end, and like, honestly, like, if I did 498 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: it again, you would you would get my first impression Roles. 499 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: I'd be like, well, so what are you saying? Like 500 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: I make a good, good first impression, but then like. 501 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: You get to know me. You don't like me, I. 502 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: Don't like Like that's not a compliment, like. 503 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 2: I mean it is. She made a great first impression, 504 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: but it just didn't didn't go further than a great 505 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: first impression of like I really liked her a lot. 506 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 2: I'm like sad she's gone. 507 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I agree. But it's like, if you know, 508 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: if she's that great, fuck you cutting her for her? 509 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: You know. 510 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: One thing we have to chat about quickly is the 511 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 2: lemon bar situation with Nicole. Yeah, so they're all in 512 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: the kitchen making lemon bars. Nicole has said in her interview, 513 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 2: like I did all the work for these lemon bars, which, 514 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: to Nicole's credit, for all we know she did literally 515 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: everything else, like we we don't know for sure. Well, 516 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: just to give her the benefit of the doubt, however. 517 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: Well an interview, Sydney said, that's Cindy. That's how I 518 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: say it. 519 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 2: You can't say it wrong. You have to say her name, right, Sidney, Cindy. 520 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: Cindy, Yes, Cindy, Yeah, keep it going. Say you said 521 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: an interview that we all did, we all worked on that. 522 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 2: You're right, she did, she did, and we did see 523 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: a lot of the women in the kitchen. I also 524 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 2: think like, okay, so you did eighty percent, you did 525 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 2: seventy percent, you did sixty percent, whatever, like this was 526 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 2: a team effort and a team idea and for her 527 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 2: to take those and use them in her one on 528 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: one time with Mel and she was like, you know, 529 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: they're from all of us, but like mostly me. Yeah. 530 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: I was like, come on, Nicole, like you're you're digging 531 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 2: yourself a deep hole right now my head. 532 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah, that's like I'm watching. I'm like, I'm like, oh, 533 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: like just just stop. I know, like you are. 534 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 2: And I do believe that she's like I wouldn't care 535 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 2: if someone else did this, Like I think she is 536 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 2: very like all as fair in love and war, like 537 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 2: you guys wanted to do this, like go ahead, but 538 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 2: she also needs to look around the room and realize, 539 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: like people aren't doing this and it's for a reason, 540 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: and it's out of consideration for other women's feelings. I 541 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: think she is giving a little like I'm not here 542 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 2: to make friends energy with the like okay, yeah, we 543 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 2: all work to make these lemon bars, Like I'm going 544 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: to use these for my one on one time with Mel. 545 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 2: I thought it was actually really interesting. They both went 546 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 2: to culinary school. 547 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 548 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 2: Like, and I also just like, you guys have a connection. 549 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: You guys have a real genuine connection and a lot 550 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: in common. I don't think you need to be like 551 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: stealing lemon bars from the group, Like, you don't need 552 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 2: that right now. 553 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: Definitely not. I agree. 554 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 2: If anything, I'm like, let Robin do it. She's on 555 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: the chopping block, give her the lemon bars. 556 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think Nicole, all she has to 557 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: do is just keep pursuing me, like physically, and I 558 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,959 Speaker 1: think she's fine. Yeah, Like, I don't think she has 559 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: to be like and I also Bake, I don't think 560 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: he cares. 561 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: Well, I'm more just meinly, she doesn't have to kind 562 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: of like turn her back on the good of the 563 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: group in order to set herself apart. I think she 564 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 2: naturally stands out. And I just think that this if 565 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: they all agreed they were gonna give these ta melas 566 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 2: a group, there was just no need for her to 567 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: be like, I'm actually gonna go against that and do 568 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 2: this for myself. Yeah, I agree, But yeah, we'll see, 569 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: We'll see what's to come. I don't think anything has 570 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: surprised me in terms of who went home so far, 571 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 2: but we'll see what happens next week because we're getting 572 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: down to the wire. 573 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, surprised there's only six women left, but I'm always 574 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,719 Speaker 1: surprised when we get towards the end. That goes by 575 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: pretty quick. 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