1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: It's that time. Time, time, time, luck and load. The 2 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: Michael Verie Show is on the air. You caned into. 3 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: Any conservative news channel on the radio, on television, you 4 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: read any blog, you read any magazine. You will hear politicians. 5 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: You will hear this set again and again and again, 6 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: the Sorows district attorneys, the Sorows prosecutors. We know that 7 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: crime is up across the country, almost exclusively in major cities. 8 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: And we know that there are these sort of predator, prowler, 9 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: evil people who in past years would have committed their 10 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: crime and then they would have been arrested eventually, and 11 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: then they would have been sent away first time for 12 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: couple of years, they'd get out, they do it again 13 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: the next time, for ten years, get out and do 14 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: it again. 15 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: The next time. 16 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: They'd be in for And they're getting older as this 17 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: is going on, and as as punks get older, they 18 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: tend to be less aggressive and less violent. Well, what 19 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: happens if that what if that happens if that cycle 20 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: that we just just described, What if instead that guy 21 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: may or may not be arrested, but when he is, 22 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: he's released. Now instead of being a year, three, five, 23 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: ten years in prison, he's committing crimes, and he's committing 24 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: a lot of them, and they're violent, and each victim. 25 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: God help you if you're a victim one of these people, 26 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: because you're not a statistic anymore. It becomes you lock 27 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: every door obsessively, you go to counseling, you worry over 28 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: your family members, the phone rings and you jump, you 29 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: worry something. It changes your whole, It steals your innocence. 30 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: So we know that George Soros and now his son's 31 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,639 Speaker 2: taking over the operation. We know that I can't stand 32 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: the man, and it is bad for America. But one 33 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: must marvel at how effectively he has carried out his 34 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 2: agenda by simply recognizing a little quirk, a little loophole. 35 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: Go in and get the district attorney, own the district 36 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: attorney in the major city, and you can make criminals 37 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: out of innocent people, and you can make innocent people 38 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: out of criminals. You can really create a tumultuous situation. 39 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: And that has happened. Now you've heard this line from me, 40 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: from Tucker, from a lot of other people. We have 41 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 2: a guest who's going to help us dig deeper in 42 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: actually case in point, chapter and verse. 43 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: His name is Zack Smith. 44 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: He's a Senior Legal Fellow at the Heritage Foundation and 45 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: he is an author of the He is the author 46 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: of the book Rogue Prosecutors, How Radical Sorrows Lawyers are 47 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: Destroying America's Communities, is available now. Zach, let me start 48 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 2: with the question, of all the things you could write about, 49 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: why did you choose this? 50 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, thank you for having me on 51 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: the show today. I really appreciate appreciate the opportunity to 52 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 3: be here and talk about this. But the reason we 53 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: chose to write about this my co author and I 54 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 3: we're both former prosecutors, and we started talking to the 55 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 3: friends of former colleagues, and they said, Hey, there are 56 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 3: prosecutors coming into office around the country and they're not prosecuting. 57 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: They're refusing to prosecute certain crimes. They're not seeking bail, 58 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: even for repeat violent offenders, and even when someone is 59 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 3: convicted of a crime, they're seeking very lenient sentences for 60 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: that convicted criminal. And we started hearing this story more 61 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: and more in cities around the country, and so we 62 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 3: started looking into it. We started writing about some of 63 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: these prosecutors, and pretty soon it became a parent there's 64 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: a thread weaving all these prosecutors together. This was a 65 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: national movement that was very well financed, it back by 66 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: George Soros and other left landing billionaires, and it was 67 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: a systematic attempt to fundamentally, and this is their words, 68 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: reimagine and re engineer our criminal justice system. And the 69 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: consequences of this effort have been absolutely devastating in the 70 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 3: communities where it's being tried. It's been absolutely devastating for victims, 71 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: and it's been absolutely devastating for the rule of law 72 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 3: across the country. And so this is a very important topic. Frankly, 73 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: I think it's something not a lot of people realize 74 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 3: it is happening right now, and so we wanted to 75 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: write about it, to highlight it and the most importantly, 76 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 3: give folks a half way forward if they're confronted with 77 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 3: one of these rogue, radical distance attorneys in their own communities. 78 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: Zach, I want to do that, but I want to 79 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: devote sufficient time. 80 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: As much as we. 81 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 2: Possibly can to Let's start, and I want to devote 82 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 2: the time to do this thoroughly. Let's start with how 83 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 2: this happened. To what extent can we say that the 84 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: are Soros prosecutors I'm going to make some straw man arguments. 85 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to be the devil's advocate in this case 86 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: from truly the devil's advocate. Let's start with, well, George 87 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: Soros isn't the only one supporting these prosecutors, and they 88 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: are winning the support of their voters. 89 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: How do you respond to his outsized influence. 90 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 3: Well, I'll make a couple of points in response to that. 91 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 3: First of all, yeah, George Soros isn't the only person 92 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 3: doing it, but he was certainly one of the driving 93 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: forces behind this movement. He's certainly been one of the 94 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: biggest financial contributors to this movement. In our book, we 95 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 3: have an entire chapter where we go through the funding 96 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: of this movement, how it works, what we know, What 97 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 3: we can't definitively know because a lot of the money 98 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 3: flows through back channels. It's end from public views. But 99 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: what we think we know based on where some of 100 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 3: the money is going with some of the money is 101 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: being spent. And it's estimated that in direct campaign contributions, 102 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: George Soros has given almost forty million dollars in direct 103 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 3: campaign contributions to support these rogue district attorneys around the country. Now, 104 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: that is a lot of money. But in politics, you 105 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: may be thinking, well, that's not that much money. You know, 106 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: look at how much we spend on the less residential election, 107 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: look at how much is spend on senate ubernatorial races. 108 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: But the important thing to realize here is that in 109 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 3: different attorney races, these are traditionally low dollar, low profile affairs. 110 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 3: They're often uncontested. Many times, even in large cities, a 111 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 3: six figure campaign contribution is unheard of. And so when 112 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: you you know, inundate these cities with a seven favorite 113 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: campaign contribution, that's a tsunami of money. Also, we suspect 114 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 3: in indirect spending, different infrastructure that's been put in place, 115 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 3: think tanks, support groups that George Sorol system spending to 116 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 3: support this radical movement in criminal justice reform in general 117 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 3: may be approaching a billion. If it's a billion with 118 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,119 Speaker 3: a be dollars. And then quickly to your second point, 119 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: you said, these individuals received the supportable voters, they were 120 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 3: elected to office. That's true, But what happened in many 121 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 3: of these jurisdictions when these folks were first running for office, 122 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: these pulltected language saying they wanted to fare criminal justice system. 123 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:16,239 Speaker 3: They wanted a criminal justice system that didn't unnecessarily incarcerate anyone. 124 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: They made pretty uncontroversial statements that you or I or 125 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: any reasonable person would agree with. But what happened when 126 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: these individuals got into office in many cases, they quickly 127 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: became a parent. What they met by those phrases and 128 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 3: what you or ire the average person would have understood 129 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 3: those phrases to mean are two different things entirely right. 130 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: And the amount of money, as you said, it may 131 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: not sound like that much money, but it is shocking 132 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: how these district attorneys races. Unlike say, congressional seats, one 133 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: congressman can't do much if you're not the Speaker of 134 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: the House, you're just one congressman. A district attorney has 135 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: an incredible amount of power to discuss this issue in 136 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: greater detail. I'm going to devote a lot of time 137 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: on this Evening's program so so that you're aware, because 138 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: this is an issue that is not getting enough attention 139 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: and is absolutely destroying America's cities. Heck, you see what's 140 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: happening with with Donald Trump and that prosecution alone. More 141 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: coming up the book is Rogue Prosecutors. How radical sorrows 142 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: lawyers are destroying America's communer. 143 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,239 Speaker 1: I I've almost went to law school. Mars the Michael 144 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: Berry Show. 145 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: Zach Smith is our guest of the Heritage Foundation. The 146 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 2: book is Rogue Prosecutors. How radical Soros lawyer are destroying 147 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: America's communities. Folks, I want you to understand, to put 148 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: this into perspective. When you talk about presidential elections and 149 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: how much money is raised, you take that to the 150 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: state level for gubernatorial. 151 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: Elections and how much money is raised. 152 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 2: And the one that gets me is how much money 153 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 2: people will spend on a congressional election. How much money 154 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: will be raised, And you think to yourself, of all 155 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: those millions of dollars, we could have taken ten percent 156 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: of that and focused it on a district attorney's race 157 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: in the major. 158 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: Cities and won some races. 159 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 2: Most people don't know who the district attorney is in 160 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: their county. 161 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: And I'm particularly. 162 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: Speaking of the major counties that the major cities are 163 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: a part of. Harris County for Houston, Cook County for Chicago. 164 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:37,239 Speaker 2: You see this with Atlanta, Philadelphia, Baltimore, New York, LA, Seattle, Minneapolis, Portland. 165 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: You know, Monoma, County used to be kind of a 166 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:46,119 Speaker 2: reasonable county and Portland was a little wacky, weird, harmless. 167 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: Well that's changed, and now you don't want to run 168 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: a foul of the district attorney in those sorts of places. 169 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: So for very little money, you talk about bang for 170 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: the buck. For very little money, relatively speaking, sorrows can 171 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: have an incredible amount of influence in decriminalizing certain crimes, 172 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: in saying, well, if you're a young black man who 173 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: is engaged in jugging, that's a big thing in Houston 174 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: right now. And you follow a little old lady from 175 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: the bank where she makes a withdrawal because she's going 176 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 2: because her grandkids are coming to see her and she wants. 177 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: To give them some money for their birthday. 178 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: And that guy puts a pistol in her face, whips her, 179 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: takes the money, and the cops arrest him. They got 180 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: him dead to rights, they got him on video, they've 181 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 2: got her witness account. There's no doubt. You know, there's 182 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: four witnesses at the whole deal. And you've got, as 183 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: we've seen in Houston, you've got now judges, because beyond 184 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: just the prosecutor, you've got the judges now all of 185 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: a sudden, we've seen a crime spike in Houston and 186 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 2: Harris County, the likes of which we've never seen. And 187 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 2: it's not that there are more criminals, it's that our 188 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: process is no longer dealing with them. That's why this 189 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 2: issue is so important, because it's a national trend and 190 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: it's not accidental rogue prosecutors. How radical Soros lawyers are 191 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: destroying America's communities. Zach, I think I cut you off 192 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: while you were making your point. I want to make 193 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: sure you leave nothing unsaid. We're going to have plenty 194 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: of time to get into this. But when you look 195 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: at the Soros strategy and how targeted this is, how 196 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: did he do we understand how he decided this would 197 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: be the thing he would focus on. 198 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, we have an entire chapter in the book, and 199 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 3: the way we structured the book, we basically have The 200 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: first chapter talks about the background, the ideological underpinnings of 201 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 3: the movement. It has its roots in a Marxist movement 202 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 3: from the sixties seventies to prison abolition movement. There's actually 203 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 3: a movement where people think no one should go to 204 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 3: prison for any reason. Well, that obviously didn't play well 205 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 3: with the general public. Most people recognize it for the 206 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: radical policy that it was. But what that original marksist 207 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 3: prison abolition movement pushed. Much of that's been accomplished a 208 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 3: day through the Rogue Prosecutor movement. But what happened back 209 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 3: in twenty fourteen twenty fifteen. Essentially some folks who work 210 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: for George Soros or had been affiliated with George Soros. 211 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: They recognize how much power the district attorney has, and 212 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 3: there are twenty three hundred local elected das around the country, 213 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 3: and they simply realize it doesn't matter how many officers 214 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: you have on the street. It doesn't matter if the 215 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 3: officers are making arrest. If the prosecutor won't prosecute the criminals, 216 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: what the police do doesn't matter. And it doesn't matter 217 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: what kind of laws you have on the book. If 218 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: you have mandatory minimums, leafy sentences for violent crimes, none 219 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: of that matters either. If the prosecutor won't prosecute, because 220 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 3: the judge will never see the case, it'll be dismissed 221 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,599 Speaker 3: before it ever goes to trial. And so, in a 222 00:12:55,760 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 3: very ingenious and very diabolical way, these individuals recognized how 223 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: much power the da has. They recognized that not many 224 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 3: people pay attention to the local DA races, and they 225 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 3: recognized that for relatively little money, they could go in 226 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: boost their preferred candidates to the top of the electoral 227 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 3: pack and essentially through a very back end way in 228 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 3: act the preferred policies, policies that frankly they like, they 229 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 3: knew they could never get pushed through each state's legislature. 230 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 3: And so they did a test run in Mississippi and 231 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 3: Louisiana with some where they primaried, essentially some death penalty das, 232 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 3: and they had success. And so then they moved out 233 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: and they went national and their first big city prosecute 234 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 3: that they backed with Tim Fox in Chicago, the Cook 235 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 3: County District Attorney. And so the other thing we do 236 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: in our book we highlight eight different road prosecutors in 237 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 3: eight different cities around the country. We outlined how how 238 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: they came to be part of the movement, who backed them, 239 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: the policies they've enacted once they got into office, and 240 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 3: most tragically, we focus on true crime stories that would 241 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: not have happened but for these rogue prosecutors' policies. And 242 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: I have to tell you it's heartbreaking when you see 243 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 3: the same results playing out in city after city after city, 244 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: and knowing that these crimes would not have happened if 245 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: these prosecutors would have just done their jobs, and if 246 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: they would have sought justice and sought to hold criminals 247 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: accountable for their actions. 248 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: It's a real harsh reality that many people don't want 249 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: to accept to understand that there is a prevailing belief, 250 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: because they don't say it in these words directly, that 251 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: a person who commits murder, particularly a person of color, 252 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: should simply be released back out on the streets because 253 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: he is a victim of a system. And it's not 254 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: until someone is a victim of a crime or has 255 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: a family member who is. And we had a series 256 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: of crime victims families in the last year during our 257 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: during our election cycle. Step forward, and we had the 258 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: son of a woman who she was run over and 259 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: then they backed back up over her to steal her 260 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: purse she exited a McDonald's. And we have teenagers who 261 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: are murdered by a gang member and then the gang 262 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: members drive by the mom's home and and and make 263 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 2: you know, air pistol gestures at her, or they're released 264 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: from prison before she's home from a casket or planning 265 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 2: the funeral. The bad guys are released to go back 266 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: to their home three doors over from where the bad 267 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: guy kill their daughter. It is a level of a 268 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 2: depth of depravity that is hard, I think for most 269 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: people to understand and that these things aren't happening accidentally, 270 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: that this is a strategy, a very ill intentioned strategy, 271 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: and it's working out exactly the way they planned it 272 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: because they don't share our belief that the victim is 273 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: sacrosanct and criminals should be punished. 274 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: I will die for the country. I will die or 275 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: disc to Michael Berry Joe, he's the big honor to 276 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: be living in the United States. 277 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: A year or two ago, I was watching No Country 278 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: for Old Men, and Tommy Lee Jones's character, if you recall, 279 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: is the sheriff who never really unholsters his gun. He 280 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: never has to draw, and the Mexican cartels have brought 281 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: a level of violence to the streets that he can't 282 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: even understand. The firepower far exceeds anything he's got, and 283 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: he just can't understand how the world has gone to hell. 284 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: You just can't understand. So he goes to his mentor 285 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: and he's talking to his mentor, and his mentor's trying 286 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: to explain how crazy the world has become, and he 287 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: refers to signs and wonders. And when I heard that, 288 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: I thought, you know, that's how I feel about some 289 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: of the crazy news stories of how on earth can 290 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: this actually happen? How do you reach such a point 291 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: of depravity? I really have to wonder. 292 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 3: Well. 293 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 2: Our latest installment of Signs and Wonders comes to you 294 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: from Chicago, Illinois. 295 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 4: It's all the damn money, income, money, in the drugs. 296 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 4: It's just damn Yanda, thank you? 297 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 3: What it mean? 298 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: What's it leading to? 299 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 4: I don't know. If you'd told me twenty years ago, 300 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 4: i'd see children walk in the streets of our Texas 301 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 4: towns with the green hair bones and their noses, and 302 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 4: it's flat out with the bleach signs and wonders that 303 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 4: I think, once you quit here in sir and ma'am, 304 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 4: it's just them to follow. 305 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: Oh, it's the pad. It's the digital pad. It is 306 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: not the one the one. 307 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 4: Thing signs, signs and Wonders. 308 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: It's the digital bors. 309 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 2: So credit for this story comes from Fox thirty two 310 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 2: in Chicago, and it's Sudly. 311 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 5: We began with a tragic story in the Southwest Suburbs after. 312 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: Teens take a stolen Kia for a deadly joy ride. 313 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 5: Robin's fully say three thirteen year old boys were inside 314 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 5: of a stolen Kia with the driver's side window busted out, 315 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 5: driving on Kedzie Avenue at about two thirty this afternoon. 316 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 5: Police started to follow the Kia when it collided with 317 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 5: another car, killing a seventy one year. 318 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: Old man who was driving. 319 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 5: Neighbors tell us the man lived in a nearby apartment complex. 320 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: It's terrible, terrible. 321 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 3: I don't even think they'd taking drivers ere, so how 322 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: are you stealing a car? 323 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: He's very unfortunate, said said. The teens were all arrested 324 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: at the scene. 325 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: The amazing thing is that that woman is most bothered 326 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: that they haven't taken drivers yet. 327 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: That's the least of their words. 328 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: Before you say, well, they're just children doing childish things, 329 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 2: let me remind you of Latarian. 330 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: Milton. 331 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,239 Speaker 2: Latarian was seven years old when he stole his grandma's car. 332 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 2: When asked why he did it, he said that he 333 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: wanted to do hoodrat stuff with his friends. He wanted 334 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 2: to do hoodrat stuff with his friends. That went viral 335 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine, but you've already forgotten it. 336 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: He was seven years old. 337 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: You have a seven year old boy stealing a car 338 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: and saying funny stuff on the news. Let's go back 339 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 2: to that original report. This is a seven year old kid, 340 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 2: a first grader. Credit WPF News. 341 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 6: In West Palm Beach, Ltarian Milton is not your typical 342 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 6: seven year old. If you his age, have ever driven 343 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 6: an suv up and down several busy streets. It all 344 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 6: started at his mother's townhouse. Latarian says he took the 345 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 6: car keys and hopped into his grandmother's dodge DURINGO and. 346 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: I came to the back door. I looked on the counter. 347 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: My keys were going. I took my Guma car because 348 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,239 Speaker 1: they got mad at my and then I show him. 349 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: Have my friend come in, and he smoked with cigarettes. 350 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: He started the vehicle and put it into gear. I 351 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: yanked the I yanked, I yanked the thing, and off 352 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: they went. Two seven year olds alone on the road. 353 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 6: Latarian drove several miles through Lake Park and Palm Beach Gardens. 354 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 5: We got the one called that he told you about 355 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 5: of a driver in the vehicle. 356 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: He looked too short to be able to see the stereeo. 357 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 6: Along the way, he ran over two mailboxes, hit two 358 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 6: part cars in a Costco parking lot, and struck two 359 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 6: moving cars near Walmart. 360 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: I want to do it because it's fun, funny do 361 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: bad things. Drives into a car, so did you know 362 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: that you could perhaps kill somebody? Yes, but I wanted 363 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: to do hoosh stuff for my friend. 364 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 6: It all ended on investment Lane and consumer drives. That's 365 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 6: where latarian hit the curve inside swipe the sign. The 366 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 6: SUV took most of the beating, snapping off one of 367 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 6: his axles and wheels. 368 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: A grandmother's rage. I want to whip his behind. That's 369 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,239 Speaker 1: what I want to do right now. 370 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 7: If I thought they wouldn't take me to jail, I'd 371 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 7: whip his behind right now. 372 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: You don't think he should be punished for all of this. 373 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 3: There's a little bit, no video games for a whole weekend. 374 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: And one unusual story for PILLI are you sorry? 375 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 3: You understand that now your grandma's going to have to 376 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 3: pay to have those cars sticks because you hit those cars. 377 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: Call my mom, Mom, I don't know, can you mom 378 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: help her? 379 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 3: Well? 380 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: You moved on as we all did, but Latarian didn't. 381 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: Two weeks after that, he attacked his grandmother because she 382 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 2: wouldn't buy him chicken wings. Nine years later, he found 383 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: himself in trouble again. Want to guess what he did? 384 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 2: This time he carjacked a car with his friends once again. 385 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 2: WPBF twenty five news. 386 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 6: Latarian Milton spent about ten minutes in court this morning. 387 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 6: He learned that he will not be able to go 388 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 6: home anytime soon. He will have to wait to hear 389 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 6: from the judge the next court day. We last spoke 390 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 6: with Latarian Milton in twenty fifteen. He had just completed 391 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 6: middle school and was looking forward to the next step. 392 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 3: I'll get the. 393 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 2: School on high school because he had to fly football 394 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: team some good successful. 395 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 6: This is Milton entering a West Palm Beach couardroom Monday 396 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 6: to face charge of stemming from an arm robbery and 397 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 6: Carjackie balbe Founty here of staff and he's say a 398 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 6: lift driver picked up four young males and a female 399 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 6: early Sunday morning and drove them to Windor Away in 400 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 6: West Palm Beach. That's where the female exited the vehicle. 401 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 6: Investigator say the suspects told the driver to take them 402 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 6: to another location. When the driver refused, authorities say one 403 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 6: of the suspects pulled out a handgun and hit the 404 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 6: driver in the back of the head. The driver says 405 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 6: he got out of the car and was robbed of 406 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,239 Speaker 6: his Walladen jacket. He later told deputies that Milton, who 407 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 6: was in the front passenger seat, got out and hopped 408 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 6: into the driver's seat and sped away with the other suspects. 409 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 6: According to investigators, the driver gave detectives a phone number, 410 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 6: which led to the identification of Milton. Deputies arrested Milton 411 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 6: Sunday afternoon. We first met Milton in two thousand and seven, 412 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 6: when he was seven years old. He had just stolen 413 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 6: his grandmother's SUV and went on a joy ride through 414 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 6: Lake Park in Palm Beach Gardens. 415 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 7: I want to do it cause it's fun funny do 416 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 7: bad things help the drives. 417 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: Into a car. So did you know that you could 418 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: perhaps kill somebody? 419 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 3: Yes? 420 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to do hoosh stuff with my friend, 421 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: but I thought they wouldn't take me to jail. I'd 422 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: whip this behind right now. 423 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,239 Speaker 6: Back in court, the judge ordered Milton to remain at 424 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 6: a juvenile facility into his next. 425 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: Day, Miltarian would be sentenced to fifteen years in prison 426 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: for that Crown the streets have replaced fathers in the home. 427 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 2: You know, I've played this clip before, but maybe it's 428 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 2: never been more appropriate than now. It was Denzel Washington 429 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 2: when he was asked about the importance of the father 430 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: in the home. 431 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 6: You know, incarceration race in America has been a problem, 432 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 6: especially as opposed to minorities, and Roman delz into this 433 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 6: the issues. 434 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: Around the legal system. Do you think we've made any headway? 435 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 7: And I think it's more important to make headway in 436 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 7: our own house. By the time the system comes into play, 437 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 7: the damage is done. They're not locking up seven year olds. 438 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 439 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 7: You know, I was in Chicago a couple of three 440 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 7: four weeks ago and we saw these little kids on 441 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 7: bikes with masks on the side of the head, like 442 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 7: five or six of them. And the driver said, yeah, 443 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 7: they little yummies. I said who He said, little yummies? 444 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 7: Look up Google little yummy. Little Yummy was eleven year 445 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 7: old murderer. 446 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: Wow. 447 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 7: And you look at his picture, you'll see his head 448 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 7: shot up and he's like this got murdered at eleven 449 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 7: by a fourteen year old Wow, who's doing. 450 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: Life now and a sixteen year old? That makes no sense. 451 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: You blame the system. Where was his father? 452 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 7: It starts in the house and starts in the home, 453 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 7: and yeah, well, well when my father got locked up? 454 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: Or where was his father? 455 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? 456 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 7: You know, like I did talk about my three closest friends, 457 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 7: and they did, you know, fifteen to twenty five? One 458 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 7: did twenty eight this, and that I was the only 459 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 7: one of the three to have a father in my life, 460 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 7: even though my parents were together. 461 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: But I still had a father who was a gentle 462 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: man and a good example. And they didn't. 463 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 7: They can blame the system if we want, but they 464 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 7: didn't lock any of us up at seven. Yeah, we 465 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 7: were all doing enough to get locked up. At thirteen. 466 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 7: My parents sent me in another direction. They didn't have 467 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 7: anybody to help them, and they kept doing what they 468 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 7: was doing and the system got them. So I don't know, 469 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 7: the system is rigged, but why all the more reason 470 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 7: not to help. 471 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: You take car of your own. Think about it. 472 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: The issue of DEEI keeps coming up, diversity, equity and inclusion, 473 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 2: and it is an issue fraught with hurt feelings and 474 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: a lack of honesty and the lack of honesty is 475 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 2: for a simple reason, because of the hurt feelings. See, 476 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 2: the truth is painful to some people. If you were 477 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: let's say you're a fan of the NFL. For about 478 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 2: a twenty year span there the most dominant team by 479 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: far was a New England Patriots, but the fans of 480 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: all the other teams wanted their team to win, so 481 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 2: they would argue, my team's better than your team. But no, actually, 482 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: your team doesn't win the super Bowl and the Patriots due. 483 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 2: It's just that simple. But if it hurts your feelings, 484 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 2: we'll say that your team, which came in last place 485 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: is the best team and the Patriots really aren't. 486 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: And we can make excuses. 487 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 2: We can do the film, we can do the inflated, 488 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: but we can make every excuse known to mankind, and 489 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 2: we can say your team is better. In fact, we 490 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: can make your team the super Bowl champion. We just 491 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: call them the champion even though they don't win, and 492 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 2: then everybody will be happy. Right, And that's what you 493 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 2: do if your primary goal is to avoid hurting people's feelings. 494 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: So what people learn when they want to get their way, 495 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: as children do, is they learn what behaviors will allow 496 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: them to get their way. You see a child manipulate 497 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: a parent, and every parent you know you've been there. 498 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: A kid who has a booboo, Mama kisses to booboo, 499 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: who put a band aid on it, and for a 500 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: little while there, he doesn't have to his homework, almost fussin, 501 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 2: or she's using that sweet mama tone. 502 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: Oh it's so nice. He can eat what he wants. 503 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: He's not required to do anything, and maybe we can 504 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: even have some ice cream. Oh, it's good. 505 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 2: So if you're a kid, you go ooh. Hypochondria pays. 506 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 2: This is how we train animals. It's very simple. Animals 507 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 2: can't understand words. They do understand tone. I think some 508 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 2: humans think they understand words. 509 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: They don't. 510 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: And obviously they can't speak back to us. But say dogs, 511 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: for instance, they're very smart and they're very smart at 512 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: recognizing patterns. And dog trainers will tell you this, and 513 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: that's why the consistency of the pattern is key. Dog, 514 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 2: when I say a word or a sound huh, and 515 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 2: you go down flat and I give you a milk 516 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: bone and you love a milk bone. Then when I 517 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: go humph, you go down, you get the bone. And 518 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 2: next time I go umph, you're going down. You'll get 519 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 2: the bone. 520 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 3: Now. 521 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 1: Umph it is not really a word. But if instead 522 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: of umph, I did sit, then you may oh. 523 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 2: He gets the word sit. No, he gets the tone 524 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: and he gets the reaction. And so dogs learn to 525 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: react in this manner. Well, guess what some of you, 526 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 2: in fact, most of you, are being played for the 527 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: dog by people want you to react a certain way 528 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: when they want it. When they scream racism, you apologize, 529 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: you hand over your money, you hand over your position, 530 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: you change your rules, you do everything because it pays, 531 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: and you learn to sit when they say sit. 532 00:28:58,840 --> 00:28:59,719 Speaker 1: And that's the problem. 533 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: And so we have become a nation of people whose 534 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: primary concern is not upsetting the people who are always upset. 535 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 2: The problem with this is there is no end to 536 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,239 Speaker 2: this behavior, and as we're coming to learn, there are 537 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: real consequences. There are companies who no longer manufacture good products. 538 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: There are people in positions where you need to be 539 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: good at a skill and you lack that skill. But 540 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: you're a girl, but you're black, but you're this, but 541 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 2: you're that, and then you're failing at performing the task 542 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: because you had no business being there. 543 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: Creates real problems. 544 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: Now The response to that is, oh, you just don't 545 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: like women, Oh you just don't like blacks. Oh that 546 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: is an insulting thing to say, and it's also a 547 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: stupid thing to say. I'm not going to respond to 548 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 2: it because it reflects more about you than it does me. 549 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: If that's what you think of me, then I'm not 550 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 2: going to change your opinion by disagreeing with you. But 551 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: also understand you have revealed your stupid Now, if you're 552 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: stupid and also black, or stupid and also a woman, 553 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: I'll just add that to your character profile. You're taller, 554 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 2: you're short, you're fat, or you're skinny, you're stupid, Okay, 555 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: And I will never change my opinion of you because 556 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 2: you have shown me you are stupid. And I'm not 557 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: hiring you because you're stupid. I don't care how much 558 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: that upsets you. You're not forcing me into that. And 559 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 2: when people start behaving this way, you don't have to 560 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 2: have Dei in the NBA. You don't have to have 561 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: Dei in the NFL because coaches only want the best 562 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: player on the field and fans demand that you win. 563 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 2: What an amazing world to live in where winning or 564 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 2: losing would actually matter. You've seen this with Boeing, where 565 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: they put people into positions that they can't handle them. 566 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: And you've got engine callings falling apart in midflight, wheels 567 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: falling off at takeoff, cockpit window glass cracking, engine failure. 568 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: You've got real, real problems. 569 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 2: And the airlines, not just the manufacturers, are having their 570 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: share of problems. A female pilot showed up to work 571 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 2: in street clothes and she tells the passengers. 572 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: That she's going through a divorce. 573 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: Now this says to me, this personal is a person 574 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: is emotionally unstable. And I'll bet you that would have 575 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 2: been revealed all along the process of her becoming a pilot. 576 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 2: I don't have to tell you how important the job 577 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 2: of being a pilot is. Because fewer than two dozen, 578 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 2: fewer than twenty terrorists managed to hijack a few planes, 579 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 2: and it was the worst terror attack on American soil. 580 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 2: This is kind of a big job. Inside Edition revealed 581 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 2: the story. Here she is, she's not in her uniform, 582 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: but here she is having a moment before a flight. 583 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: Listen to this. Hey, if you don't feel safe, get 584 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: off the airplane. This is your captain speaking. 585 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 3: But never like this. 586 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: I'll stop and. 587 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 5: I will fly the airplane. 588 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: Don't worry. 589 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 7: I'm going to let my co pilots fly it. 590 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 3: He's a man. 591 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: Okay, it's a total meltdown. 592 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 8: The pilot boarded in her stream clothes and addressed the 593 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 8: passengers over the intercom. Passenger Pam O'Neill couldn't believe what 594 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 8: was happening. 595 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: She said, let's take a vote. 596 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 9: How many of you would like to take off now 597 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 9: with me dressed as I am? Or would you prefer 598 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 9: that I take ten minutes to get changed into my 599 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 9: cute little uniform. Then she started talking about her divorce 600 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 9: and political candidates. In a minute. She mentioned that a 601 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 9: gentleman stood up and just yelled, blow enough, you're scaring me. 602 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 8: Another passenger, Randy Reese, got up to leave and gave 603 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 8: a running commentary on social media. 604 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: Pilot also insulted a couple on board. Did I offend you? Okay? 605 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: So did I purposely offend you? 606 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 3: I did? 607 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: The answers yes, but pleased this on doors. 608 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 8: After twenty passengers insisted on getting off the United Airlines flight, 609 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 8: The pilot quietly left the aircraft. 610 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: Okay, if you don't feel faked, get off the airplane.