Speaker 1: Look mad oh, I see you? Why Bowen look over there?
Speaker 1: How is that nu? Yes? Goodness? Let do. And I
Speaker 1: just finished writing a speech about Bowen Yang. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I just started writing a speech about myself, which is
Speaker 1: truly the worst, worst worst. It has to be horrifying.
Speaker 1: It's truly bad. And every I'm second guessing myself every sentence,
Speaker 1: I'm like I would no one would ever say this.
Speaker 1: So Bowen is getting the an award from the Human
Speaker 1: Rights Campaign and thank you very much. They campaign for
Speaker 1: human rights among many other things. And they're lgbtwo Q
Speaker 1: we should say that. And they asked me, could I
Speaker 1: present Bowen with the HRC's Visibility Awards, And so I
Speaker 1: just typed up a little speech for you and cried.
Speaker 1: I cried on the way there. Did you cry writing
Speaker 1: about yourself? No, it's it's so bad, it's you're probably
Speaker 1: gonna Everyone in this room is going to do it
Speaker 1: at some point in their lives, and everyone's going to
Speaker 1: get the it's actually a real culture number seventeen. Everyone
Speaker 1: at some point is going to visibility award and it's
Speaker 1: really I you're very visible. I just hate writing about myself.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna talking about myself. I really don't think
Speaker 1: I'm good to talking about myself. So is it a
Speaker 1: thank you speech? Have they given you a directive? No,
Speaker 1: there's no directive, but I've I've watched basically everyone else
Speaker 1: who's gotten like they put them up on YouTube, great
Speaker 1: speeches all around from wonderful people in the past. Um
Speaker 1: and I just want to do a good job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of pressure. I think it's just I
Speaker 1: want to make it fun. Not fun. I just want
Speaker 1: to make it like have a nice little pettina of
Speaker 1: like you know, you want to you wanted to impast
Speaker 1: harm to it, but I think it's not even impact.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to be like, I just want to
Speaker 1: try to say something kind of kind of new. But
Speaker 1: there's nothing new under the sun. It's not even a
Speaker 1: fun speech where you might not you know, you don't
Speaker 1: know if you're gonna win. So you can write it
Speaker 1: a little thing up to time about me like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, the humility, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: do you okay? So when you were a young child
Speaker 1: and gay, did you ever think what would you would
Speaker 1: say if you want a major award? I have a
Speaker 1: line that I have prepared. I don't know. I can't
Speaker 1: do I would. I would like fantasize about it, but
Speaker 1: I would never It would never get to the point
Speaker 1: where I would like phony and like say stuff, Okay,
Speaker 1: well I'm bravely going to say that I had a
Speaker 1: whole first line prepared and this is what it is. Well,
Speaker 1: whoever counted this is getting fired? So that's me. And
Speaker 1: now guess why I can't use that. So now I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to go up. Now, whoever, whoever countered this
Speaker 1: is getting fired? Well, let's just all this proves is
Speaker 1: that someone can't count not good. I mean, it depends
Speaker 1: on the delivery. It's one of those things, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm always nervous about when I watched those awards,
Speaker 1: like when someone wins and they say, and the people
Speaker 1: in my category Renee Charlie's Lupete that they'll forget someone
Speaker 1: and it will be the worst moment of my life
Speaker 1: watching watching Oh you would not do that, but but
Speaker 1: you know who did do it. Kate Winslett forgot Miss
Speaker 1: Angeliana Jolie when she won her Oscar. She was like,
Speaker 1: who else? Who else? Oh Angelina? And she's screaming, I
Speaker 1: don't know about Kate Award shows. I really don't. Well,
Speaker 1: we're about to get into We're about to get into it.
Speaker 1: Kated Awards shows. Datha, Datha, remember when she won her
Speaker 1: Golden Globe, wasn't she kept telling herself, Gatha gather, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's there. They're there for some for some reason, like
Speaker 1: does not sit the Kate's Awards show girl sort of
Speaker 1: behavior is as if not more, it's it's more despicable
Speaker 1: than Anne, I gotta say. And Anne also, and you
Speaker 1: know we're Doug. We're going there, engineer stop and this
Speaker 1: might get me in trouble, but I always forget you
Speaker 1: could get in trouble. Now, will you all say? For
Speaker 1: saying things like Kate Winslet is despicable at award shows,
Speaker 1: it's a dangerous path you walk. Now of the the days
Speaker 1: she's being an HRC visible, she's an undeniable talent. Oh,
Speaker 1: we all have to do better at award shows. But
Speaker 1: we all have to do better at award shows. We
Speaker 1: all have to do better. Who crushes award shows? Though
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody does. Na Taga, not Gaga, not truly.
Speaker 1: There's no one person in Hollywood right now who is
Speaker 1: crushing it at award shows like I mean that John
Speaker 1: Patrick Shanley film moon Struck, to be kidding, they know
Speaker 1: who directed Moonstruck. They start the music right there, like
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. You know, get her out of here. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say something, you know, it's kind of annoying, truly.
Speaker 1: The only person who was like such a fun character
Speaker 1: to watch this season was Pungentho. That was and and
Speaker 1: Sharon Choi, the interpreter, And there was rumors like her
Speaker 1: on the show, rumors that she is writing a script
Speaker 1: about awards, about the experience, but she denied it vehemently
Speaker 1: in the last week. She's like, I'm not working on
Speaker 1: a script, and working on something that's very clear. It
Speaker 1: is to home. It takes place in Korea, and it's
Speaker 1: not a script. Well she's she's she's working on the script.
Speaker 1: But at some point in my career, I'm still processing
Speaker 1: this whole moment in my life and at some point
Speaker 1: I will know what to do with it creatively, which
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I call the best of luck to Sharon,
Speaker 1: best of best of luck to you receiving the award.
Speaker 1: I hope you give a fine speech. I think you'll
Speaker 1: be wonderful. I think you're talented. Think I think that
Speaker 1: you have to a lot of talent. I think you
Speaker 1: have a lot of talent. And you're gonna make me cry.
Speaker 1: I didn't say I was worried about my speech. You
Speaker 1: said you were worried about your speech. Wasn't even very talented? Yes,
Speaker 1: And I'm just I'm just sort of validating. In addition,
Speaker 1: speaking of my talent and writing scripts. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: here's the thing about our guests, my boss, even the
Speaker 1: boss even and the show runner. Yes, I have to
Speaker 1: say a show that is going to and this is
Speaker 1: like I'm going to go bravely say it. Please say
Speaker 1: it will become a part of the culture. I can't
Speaker 1: wor it will become part of the culture. You have
Speaker 1: been telling me little bits and pieces I literally of
Speaker 1: this of the story, and I'm just like, I can't believe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the I can't believe anything close to that's gonna be.
Speaker 1: I told I was telling Bowen earlier, like I spoiled
Speaker 1: Bowen with gifts, but with information information, And I told
Speaker 1: him today about something that happens in the show Q
Speaker 1: Force coming to Netflix June, so we'll have to have
Speaker 1: him back. Um, But I told him something that happened
Speaker 1: and he was like, that's crazy. You can't do that,
Speaker 1: and I said, we can, and we're going to. I
Speaker 1: I love it. You force everyone. It starts Sean Hayes
Speaker 1: as the pitch is just a three word pitch Gay
Speaker 1: James Bond And it's sold in the room, and it's
Speaker 1: sold in the room with it was a three word
Speaker 1: tell in the room. It's sold in the room. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. And you love to see it because you
Speaker 1: love to see It's that it feels like a fantasy.
Speaker 1: Feels like a dream to me, it feels like a dream.
Speaker 1: When you said it feels like that, it feels like that. Okay,
Speaker 1: And then but like the other credits, we got it.
Speaker 1: We gotta go go off. Written on every good, very
Speaker 1: Good Show, Pen fifteen c insie Um, Truly a Parent,
Speaker 1: Transparent Kroll Show and Iconic sketch Show, Iconic sketch Show,
Speaker 1: iconic third of Big Terrific, Absolutely, and can you believe
Speaker 1: part of the trifecta that is Big Terrific was the
Speaker 1: straight man. Who's the first person to be on this podcasts.
Speaker 1: We have not yet had the pleasure of having Jenny Slade.
Speaker 1: Have you met Jenny's I have not met her. I
Speaker 1: passed her in the hallway and she was wearing an
Speaker 1: amazing outfit always and I know our guest things highly
Speaker 1: of her. Of course, Max and Max and UM just
Speaker 1: gently got to know him last year at Golden Globes.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, you guys wrote for the Globes together. Very
Speaker 1: fun and Um and you and I yeah, oh this
Speaker 1: is good have formatively sort of interacted with his stand
Speaker 1: up album. He doesn't know that. He doesn't know this,
Speaker 1: and there's a whole story that we have to tell
Speaker 1: him about. Well, we will tell him, yes, after we
Speaker 1: bring him in, because I believe it's time to do.
Speaker 1: It's time to do so. So Matt, when when don't
Speaker 1: you do the honors? You gotta absolutely give it up
Speaker 1: for game man Bottle, I pulled out of water, but
Speaker 1: I footed my chair two inches forward the show. He
Speaker 1: sit there for all of that. I made me. No
Speaker 1: is beautiful. Well, I have to say I'm having I'm
Speaker 1: having the best time writing on the show. I love
Speaker 1: working with you. You're an amazing writer. You're so funny,
Speaker 1: You're a great energy. I love having you around. Your
Speaker 1: ideas are great. You're really good at writing. TV. Really
Speaker 1: it makes me feel very very happy. Thank you when
Speaker 1: you're an amazing actor. Oh gosh, let me tell you.
Speaker 1: It's a room full of people of writers who perform.
Speaker 1: That is true. It is very writer performer heavy. You know,
Speaker 1: who's only one person who doesn't want to perform? That
Speaker 1: Tim strip coordinator, strip coordinator. He's like, dum put me
Speaker 1: in the show. Yeah, he's the only one. I asked,
Speaker 1: I mean I want to cast everyone. Yeah, that's the dream,
Speaker 1: that's the Cinderella story. Yeah, that is that's that's that's
Speaker 1: actually what happened in Cinderella. That's what happened. She's a
Speaker 1: writer in the room. He's right at the bar. She's
Speaker 1: a writer in a room. She crushes the table, reading
Speaker 1: exactly exact to see her, and they're like, put a
Speaker 1: shoe on her. And then they put the shoe on
Speaker 1: her and they're like, well, you know it doesn't fit.
Speaker 1: But she has a good voice. Yeah, take her out
Speaker 1: of the pumpkin. I don't know if she's right. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: They could make up on her. And she's beautiful Kendrick
Speaker 1: in her big blue dress. Yeah, huge, Kendrick beautiful. Can
Speaker 1: I ask would you have given the opportunity cast yourself
Speaker 1: and I already have. I already had. It was the
Speaker 1: first thing I did even wrote a script. Come on, yeh,
Speaker 1: I wrote myself apart that I think could be in
Speaker 1: every episode. And I'm going to twist arms until that
Speaker 1: comes true. Yeah. Yeah, actually wow. Now I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: actively thinking about more places we can put this character in.
Speaker 1: I feel we need to get. We need to get.
Speaker 1: I mean even the other day, like you were talking
Speaker 1: about like what's best for the episode, and we're like,
Speaker 1: I think we're going to cut this character out, And
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, I was like, you're talking to
Speaker 1: yourself out of scale. You could have that. Now. This
Speaker 1: show owes me six and that's it. But you know
Speaker 1: you have to look humble everyone awhile, and then you
Speaker 1: can pull some ship exactly exactly. He's coming back, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: coming back for a day. He's getting the tag. Yeah
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. If they don't get it,
Speaker 1: put him in the right I'm going to sing the
Speaker 1: theme song. Yeah, oh absolutely. And I was thinking, like
Speaker 1: gay James Bond, like what do you what say you bow?
Speaker 1: And let's get your bow and opinion on this. Do
Speaker 1: we do instrumental like incredible esque music like orchestral or
Speaker 1: do we get in your opinion, should we try to
Speaker 1: get a damn Bond diva song? Can't you do? But
Speaker 1: isn't there a world you do both? I guess we
Speaker 1: could incorporate strings, I mean absolutely. I mean I think
Speaker 1: a lot of those Bonds songs start with string. That
Speaker 1: is true. They it can be both, I guess like
Speaker 1: they truly it can. But I feel like the queerest
Speaker 1: Bond song was I was gonna say I, but it is.
Speaker 1: It's also in the most difference such a dance song,
Speaker 1: and usually they're painfully slow. Yeah, what do you think
Speaker 1: of the billy one? Um? Fine with it? It's kind
Speaker 1: of haven't we? I mean also Adele's too. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to listen to that. I have to tell you wrong?
Speaker 1: You do? Am I wrong? I listened to it all
Speaker 1: the time. I don't think they're wrong. I think I'm
Speaker 1: probably deeply, deeply wrong. But also the Academy does agree
Speaker 1: with me. That's right, and they're never Actually it's actually
Speaker 1: really culture crash Desert number twelve's crash deserved it, And
Speaker 1: then you have to make a face like this. They're
Speaker 1: shrugging for those at home, because a visual medium, we
Speaker 1: should carry that over. Yeah. So I'm having the best
Speaker 1: time read It's so fun. It's like for me, it's
Speaker 1: a scary job, but it's so fun. It's the most
Speaker 1: fun I've ever had at work. Um, I love everyone.
Speaker 1: It's so nice. The fives are so good. The Jew
Speaker 1: in me literally only cares if everyone else is getting
Speaker 1: along with each other? Or is that the Jew that's
Speaker 1: the middle child. It's just something in me where I
Speaker 1: get it all. I like I if the scripts sucked,
Speaker 1: if the show got canceled, I would care less than
Speaker 1: if everyone who was sitting at the table with me
Speaker 1: were mad at each other. Oh my god. So just
Speaker 1: that everyone likes each other is such a huge load off.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've also been involved in a lot of shows.
Speaker 1: I've probably dramatic places. Yeah, you've probably seen it all.
Speaker 1: I have seen quite a lot. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, In fact,
Speaker 1: we we do. We do have conversations here and there,
Speaker 1: because guess what, Hollywood, people talk. People talk, So you
Speaker 1: know what people talk. So when you act a fool,
Speaker 1: just you know that people talk at Actually, really clare
Speaker 1: in our thirty three people talk at food. People talk game.
Speaker 1: Is this a thing where it's like you've accrued all
Speaker 1: of this, Like, well, when I run a room, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do this, Like, is this is all having some
Speaker 1: rules of workplace love. Let's say I've been really strict
Speaker 1: about not having late hours. I don't know, if I
Speaker 1: don't know anything get crept into your life in any way. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've just I've worked on so many shows where you
Speaker 1: watch the whole day disappear, and if you're not in
Speaker 1: the position of power, it feels like captivity, it feels
Speaker 1: like assault, it feels like your life is passing. I've
Speaker 1: just got fallen into so many depressions. Watching my boss
Speaker 1: is waste time. So I like, I'm on a pretty
Speaker 1: strict we're done by six unless it's an emergency. We
Speaker 1: take a lot of breaks, um, and that's when you
Speaker 1: can funk around. Right, It's like, you don't I try
Speaker 1: not to be the person leading any fucking around. I
Speaker 1: like kind of don't let myself do stuff because I've
Speaker 1: seen my bosses do stuff. You kind of have to
Speaker 1: be sort of the cipher in the room in a way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you kind of just have to like be okay with
Speaker 1: anything happening organically in front of you. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm speaking from a from no experience but
Speaker 1: this but that like but from being in rooms, I'm
Speaker 1: just like, Oh, it's a weirdly social job, entirely, entirely socially.
Speaker 1: We're making eye contact with twelve people at all times.
Speaker 1: So something I feel like people don't really realize. It's like,
Speaker 1: while there is a name on a script, everyone writes
Speaker 1: the scrip, which is something I think when I wasn't
Speaker 1: actively writing television, I didn't really understand. Like I would
Speaker 1: always like, like, whatever was nominated for the Comedy Emmys,
Speaker 1: I was always like, oh, well, Matt Hubbard must be
Speaker 1: the best writer on the best It's like not necessarily
Speaker 1: true because everyone's jokes everyone, and he might be the
Speaker 1: one who emails the Emmys, you know, like hey for
Speaker 1: your consideration. But yeah, that's something I didn't realize. And
Speaker 1: so it is so important to have a good atmosphere
Speaker 1: in like in any working environment, but especially in a
Speaker 1: creative collaborative environment. That chemistry is important. In a comedy,
Speaker 1: everyone needs to be proud of the whole season because
Speaker 1: they did all the all the work, all the work
Speaker 1: top to bottom too. It's like from the person who
Speaker 1: comes early to make sure there's bananas in the bowl,
Speaker 1: they also need to be like this show fucking rules.
Speaker 1: So it's just that's the culture of the workplace. That's
Speaker 1: the culture of the workplace. Yeah, and I have been
Speaker 1: the boss. I'm doing air quotes for those of you.
Speaker 1: I've been the boss before, but this is the first
Speaker 1: show that I created, So it was like sort of
Speaker 1: like I have shepherded other people's things, but this is
Speaker 1: a different vibe where I do feel like I really
Speaker 1: need to set the tone at all times. That's a
Speaker 1: lot though, it's a lot of work. I will say
Speaker 1: he does it with so much like grace and leadership.
Speaker 1: I thought we're gonna say with so much marijuana. He
Speaker 1: doesn't with so much marijuana, which is sometimes to Grayson leadership.
Speaker 1: It's a job working, working as a as a writer,
Speaker 1: and TV means picking up on a million different nonverbal cues.
Speaker 1: That's all I mean, that's not all it is. But
Speaker 1: it's just like that's such a part of it, and like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's great because I'm picking up on
Speaker 1: very good vibes from Matt. It sounds like the funnest
Speaker 1: funnest room in the world. And what I told him
Speaker 1: was like, it must be fun to write animated and
Speaker 1: something queer because it's like there's there's you can blue
Speaker 1: sky anything, or there's there's no we have insane stuff
Speaker 1: that's like supernatural happening. It's so queer. That is like
Speaker 1: the most fun part where it's just like you can
Speaker 1: just be so queer in your story. Is so queer
Speaker 1: in the dialogue. So they talk like maniac just wrote
Speaker 1: down on the paper, what is the show? I was like,
Speaker 1: we definitely, said Doug, we definitely say it's Gay Jay's Bond.
Speaker 1: But that's not the title. It's called Q four and
Speaker 1: it's coming out in June on Netflix, Baby Baby, starring
Speaker 1: Shawn Hayes, and not saying who else is in the
Speaker 1: cast yet, but suffice it to say that if all
Speaker 1: things go according to plan, the casting will be news. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the casting is truly insane. People are taking a bit
Speaker 1: to sign their deals. But it's looking really insane. It's
Speaker 1: looking quick. I am incredulous at the casting. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it'll be news anyway. Another reason why it's like
Speaker 1: such a gag to work with you, and like why
Speaker 1: it's like we were even you were. You didn't make
Speaker 1: it because you had to work, but I was so
Speaker 1: excited you were even doing. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: when you did, because that's just throwback to our story
Speaker 1: that we were going to tell you it's gonna make
Speaker 1: me sweat more. No, no, no, it's it's pretty beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's so this was what when was this? This was
Speaker 1: twenty album came out perhaps, so we're doing a car
Speaker 1: trip with our sketch group pop Roulette to Toronto, Toronto, Toronto.
Speaker 1: Was it just Toronto Sketch Festival. I was a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. We did. We did it. We were in
Speaker 1: and out and then we drive all the way back
Speaker 1: down from Toronto to throughout state New York, New York
Speaker 1: because you drive. We were we didn't really have the
Speaker 1: money at the time. This is like we had no money.
Speaker 1: We're just like kind of weirdly, like a fifteen hour drift,
Speaker 1: very like New York is such a weird shape, very long,
Speaker 1: and so we are were like going in the red
Speaker 1: always doing these sketch comedy festivals. You remember, like it's
Speaker 1: like you're just doing it to do it, and like
Speaker 1: hopefully someone sees it her. It's like a cool festival.
Speaker 1: So we're coming back. It was a cool festival, and
Speaker 1: we're in the rental car. It's me you and then
Speaker 1: was it three other people? For me? You David rael Witzky,
Speaker 1: maybe that was it? Kind Rachel or Amanda. Amanda was
Speaker 1: not there because I remember if this happened to Amanda,
Speaker 1: it would have been a nightmare because love Amanda to death,
Speaker 1: but she would not have dealt with this situation, which
Speaker 1: and she and she would since she would admit to that,
Speaker 1: she would talk to that. But it was Rachel when
Speaker 1: it's gave meet you, Doug White, David Zone. Yes. So
Speaker 1: we're all in the car and we are driving along
Speaker 1: in this rental car and the it's the car just
Speaker 1: dies in the middle of nowhere upstate New York. So
Speaker 1: it breaks down and we are like, okay, well we'll
Speaker 1: call Triple A away. How long did it take? We
Speaker 1: were rating in that car for about like almost four hours. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no. It was like iver sex. It was
Speaker 1: a school day in this car, devastated like literally virgin tears,
Speaker 1: going crazy. There's no one around. We call three hours
Speaker 1: into waiting. Turns out Triple A had not left. They
Speaker 1: forgot did not so they didn't dismatch anyone. We're in
Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere. We're thinking about going to this
Speaker 1: truly Texas chainsaw massacre looking house and being like, can
Speaker 1: you feel that it was so bad? Finally, eventually, like
Speaker 1: at six hours into this, we all like packed into
Speaker 1: this little car, the different car we were driving home,
Speaker 1: and I think it was Rachel. Who did you say,
Speaker 1: Rachel Winnieski introduced you to game? Well, Rachel Wis introduced
Speaker 1: me to Gable. First of all, Rachel was like, Rachel
Speaker 1: my way back in the day. We're like, we should
Speaker 1: go to open mics together, and and Gabe Leman's album
Speaker 1: had just come out. Hi um, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, like he does that show with Jenny Slate
Speaker 1: and that and that guy maxel Vestre and then got
Speaker 1: me any album. I had the album on my Yes,
Speaker 1: I remember music app So we're devastated, we're sucking cold,
Speaker 1: we're crying, we're hungry. We had gone crazy and created
Speaker 1: this like a bid on Instagram, which was not funny
Speaker 1: but like but we really thought it was like and um,
Speaker 1: we were going nuts, and so we put on your
Speaker 1: album and we laughed, laughed, laughed, laugh, And then for
Speaker 1: like years afterwards, years after, we were quoting it and
Speaker 1: I was telling like other like gay stand up that
Speaker 1: I saw. I was like this, this was good. This
Speaker 1: is like gay lidman, like I would see anyone that
Speaker 1: had like a good set. I was like, this is good,
Speaker 1: this is like do you know gay liedman stand up?
Speaker 1: And I remember at the time like I had not
Speaker 1: listened to a stand up album with friends since I
Speaker 1: was like on the cross country bus in middle school
Speaker 1: listening like Dame Cook, and I remember saying like, I'm
Speaker 1: so glad that kids nowadays have a gay Dame Cook.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love it. I'm i am. My
Speaker 1: arms are like, well, there's a harder. There's a hoarder's
Speaker 1: bit on the album again today a couple of hours ago,
Speaker 1: and we were quoting it. We were like, um, this,
Speaker 1: someone comes over on the show Hoarders Do so game
Speaker 1: has this whole bit about hoarders, and it starts off
Speaker 1: with him saying I love Hoarders the show, but I
Speaker 1: hate hoarders the people. Great great like intro for perfect
Speaker 1: like introductory sentence into the whole body paragraph. But then um,
Speaker 1: he just goes he just talks about hoarders and he
Speaker 1: goes like it's a crew of like twelve muscular men
Speaker 1: from the neighborhood and one like one like leader whatever.
Speaker 1: This team comes over to their house and they'll be like, Hi,
Speaker 1: can we help clean up here? Insane and then got sweating. No,
Speaker 1: I'm so flattered. That's so nice. It's beautiful, it's very good.
Speaker 1: I'm proud. Yes, my only album. It was so like
Speaker 1: you know, it was good. Yes, I felt good about it.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. Here's the thing that we just
Speaker 1: have revealed that Gabe was culture that influenced us. And
Speaker 1: after this ad break, I'm looking into Dug Engineer's eyes. Um,
Speaker 1: we are going to find out what culture made gay
Speaker 1: bled men say I forgot the rest of it cultures
Speaker 1: for me. There you go right after this and we're
Speaker 1: back with gay bled men of the game. We're gonna
Speaker 1: ask you the question that we ask all of our
Speaker 1: guests because is what is the culture that made you
Speaker 1: say culture is for me? The culture that made me
Speaker 1: say culture is for me? The film The Craft? Has
Speaker 1: anyone else done that? So okay, it really changed everything
Speaker 1: for me. Tell tell us about the Craft because I
Speaker 1: know vaguely about the craft. Have you not seen the craft?
Speaker 1: I think you might be talking to two people who
Speaker 1: have not seen the really who culturally know the craft
Speaker 1: understand the significant First of all, that's absolutely fine. I'm
Speaker 1: not one of those people. UM see it in your
Speaker 1: own time, but do see it. It's really good. It's
Speaker 1: about four teenage witches in high school. So it kind
Speaker 1: of starts there's like these three outcasts who um are
Speaker 1: like the you know, kind of everyone's shipping on them
Speaker 1: in their grades. Three girls. It's a Catholic school. Then
Speaker 1: a new girl comes to school and she is like
Speaker 1: the fourth person you need to put together a coven.
Speaker 1: You need four for the cardinal direction of course. So
Speaker 1: um yeah, and they know this because she can make
Speaker 1: a pencil stand on its tip during class with totally
Speaker 1: and they're like did you see that? And then they
Speaker 1: kind of become friends with her, and their powers grow.
Speaker 1: But it corrupts some of them. I would imagine it does.
Speaker 1: And it's just sort of like their rise in high
Speaker 1: school from being like the complete ship outcast, like scarily
Speaker 1: popular and magical, and then they kind of turn on
Speaker 1: each other and you know, does evil prevail or does good.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. So famously for we stand,
Speaker 1: we stand. She is the face of the nineties for
Speaker 1: so many people. Also, Nev Campbell, I was gonna nineties
Speaker 1: star power. I applaud absolutely. Then it's also then. The
Speaker 1: third person is Robin Tunney, who has gone on. She
Speaker 1: acted on a big CBS drama. She's still working famously
Speaker 1: now in the Alison Bree Netflix playing like a cop
Speaker 1: on a procedural that she's watching, which is um. And
Speaker 1: the fourth person is Rachel True, who has become an author.
Speaker 1: She writes like witchy books, and I heard that she
Speaker 1: reads tarot cards at this witch store in Silver Lake
Speaker 1: called the House of Intuition that I have not actually
Speaker 1: followed up on that, but I do follow her in
Speaker 1: all social media. Um, what's really a bummer is that
Speaker 1: they have left her name out of the credits on Netflix.
Speaker 1: And I follow her on social media, and she does
Speaker 1: like everyone's not Everyone's a while quite often is like
Speaker 1: hey Netflix, and you please add my name you This
Speaker 1: is crazy, that insane. So she's one of the leads
Speaker 1: to the to the little like little like brow text
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. So sorry Nev Campbell for Rousa Bak, maybe
Speaker 1: Robin Tuney as well, yea, and one of the I
Speaker 1: think Skeet ol Rich is the boy. Yes, I think
Speaker 1: it's him. I'm going to get dragged. Also, like watched
Speaker 1: it like a month ago. I is it one of
Speaker 1: those movies you're you frequently go. I watched it a
Speaker 1: couple of times a year, and it's like it kind
Speaker 1: of defined like fashion for me, very grunge. It's very
Speaker 1: like Kilts eyeliner, which is nothing that I'm wearing right now,
Speaker 1: but it's like what I think is hot. You know
Speaker 1: who I think loves this movie, Pat Into the Craf.
Speaker 1: I can actually feel that from across the country. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know he actually loves the craft. And I also
Speaker 1: think he follows nev Kemberl and would follow her the
Speaker 1: rest of her. She's the best. She's literally such a
Speaker 1: good actress. Yeah. The latest Scream is amazing, really good.
Speaker 1: Scream four, you've seen it, I haven't seen it's actually
Speaker 1: any Scream movie. I gotta watch the first one. I
Speaker 1: gotta watch all of them. I watched them for Courtney
Speaker 1: Cox for Courtney is actually incredible and also not for nothing,
Speaker 1: but one of the best intro scenes to any movie
Speaker 1: Withdrew because they also that's when they could pull off
Speaker 1: that thing of like you see Drew Barrymore on the
Speaker 1: poster and assume she's going to be the star because
Speaker 1: she's one of the most famous people. And then it
Speaker 1: gets killed five minutes in and you're like, what anything
Speaker 1: could happen which you couldn't do? Now, well you couldn't.
Speaker 1: They've done that recently, mom and Mia two did that
Speaker 1: with Meryl. You put Mary on the damn post, right.
Speaker 1: We literally want no, we got really really high. I
Speaker 1: want to go see him, I mean too. And then
Speaker 1: the movie opens and it's like Meryl, she's picture on
Speaker 1: the wall and it's like very clear. Seconds in and
Speaker 1: Bowen turns to me and goes, is Meryl Streep not?
Speaker 1: And I said, she's not in it? And not till
Speaker 1: the end? I don't think then why the funk are
Speaker 1: we here? And I was like, she is going to
Speaker 1: come on in ninety minutes and she's gonna sing a
Speaker 1: song while walking down the stairs wild So that's like
Speaker 1: a reverse because Meryl shows up at the end, but
Speaker 1: that's a reverse scream. I'm telling you, like, I think
Speaker 1: that script should be nominated for an Oscar Scream screams yes,
Speaker 1: because I think it's like one of those things where
Speaker 1: it's like genre wise, you don't take it seriously. It's
Speaker 1: like clueless like girls, it's like girls like mean girls,
Speaker 1: like mean girls, like clueless, like clueless. Yeah, Like I
Speaker 1: mean absolutely, I mean, these are scripts that are packed
Speaker 1: with jokes and like define their genre. And I think
Speaker 1: because you can't. You don't know a genre is being
Speaker 1: defined while it's happening. You know, you might find yourself
Speaker 1: quoting it twenty years later. Literally, I mean, and Clues
Speaker 1: is one that I watched several times a year. But
Speaker 1: Scream that first scene, like from a scripting perspective, from
Speaker 1: a directorial perspective, from an acting perspective, She's so good.
Speaker 1: She's so good. She's one of the best. She's one
Speaker 1: of the best. Did she came up? Yeah? Are you
Speaker 1: a Drew fan? I love Drew. She has her own style.
Speaker 1: Very few actors do. Drew Barrymore is the only celebrity
Speaker 1: with a housewear line that could make me buy from Walmart. Truly,
Speaker 1: she got some cute stuff. She really got cute lamps,
Speaker 1: cute little framed you know, drawings of palm trees, really cute, cute.
Speaker 1: Here's what I'd say. We often play on this podcast
Speaker 1: star actress. I'm gonna say both. I'm gonna say both
Speaker 1: because she often elevates materials and this is the thing,
Speaker 1: this is like the j Loo of it all. It's like,
Speaker 1: you can't you can't be mad at j Loo because
Speaker 1: some of the ship she's been in, like Drew Barrymore
Speaker 1: has been in some garbage. But she always elevates about
Speaker 1: movie star totally, absolutely, and sometimes she produces it. Sometimes
Speaker 1: she produces Charlie's Flower films. Done Darko, Donnie Darko, you
Speaker 1: forget to play the teacher famous. Now, okay, let's do
Speaker 1: this with the rest of Let's do this with the
Speaker 1: cast of of the craft. Nev is what I would say,
Speaker 1: Nev is, this is an interesting if she, if she
Speaker 1: had her druthers, she would be both. I think she
Speaker 1: should be both. I think that she is. Wow, it's
Speaker 1: so undeniably an actress. I guess I guess I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say actress. But I do think she has stardom to
Speaker 1: her and and we we should say that stardom is
Speaker 1: purely defined by level of fame, right, Okay, she just no, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no actress. Yeah, hard actress, ability to act high level.
Speaker 1: But for me, stardom is like you see them on
Speaker 1: screen and you're like, I mean, yeah, and you do
Speaker 1: do that with her. But something she also has the
Speaker 1: acting great very good on House of Cards and Madmen.
Speaker 1: So she doesn't yes, and yes she doesn't. She doesn't
Speaker 1: uh coexist. She doesn't hold both at the same time
Speaker 1: that much. But she can flip between the two. Rum
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and say start. And it's shocking
Speaker 1: that she's not more of a thing. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and because she's such a thing, you could just stick
Speaker 1: her anywhere. She just would make a part of her own. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But also you know she's okay. I don't know that
Speaker 1: she's okay. Yeah. Honestly, she's like from the Brittany Murphy school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that kind of edgy girl in the nineties. Who would
Speaker 1: have did I was I talking to you about this.
Speaker 1: I think I brought it up, maybe even to the room.
Speaker 1: You were saying Britney would have won an oscar right now. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think she would have won an oscar. I
Speaker 1: think Brittany Murphy would have popped off in the age
Speaker 1: of prestige television. Yeah, you did say that in your
Speaker 1: right I think that she is the kind of actress
Speaker 1: who you can see Britney Murphy on like The Hendmaid's Tail,
Speaker 1: you can see Brittany Murphy and like any of these
Speaker 1: like cable dramas, like you can see her on like
Speaker 1: you know, doing that Rolese Burn role on. Damn she's
Speaker 1: my Mazel. Yeah, yesshtag my mazel. We love Rachel. We
Speaker 1: love Rachel. Is Britney was Brittany Jewish? She's New Yorky?
Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, Rael, Yeah, there you go, not Jewish?
Speaker 1: Um okay? And then Robin and Rachel do we say
Speaker 1: you gotta say you'd have to I'd have to be
Speaker 1: able to know face looks like when someone says your
Speaker 1: name for you to be a star. These are actresses
Speaker 1: and now um an author and authors and terror readers
Speaker 1: and yeah, and you know what, it's better to be
Speaker 1: an author than a star and actress. And that's a
Speaker 1: ruler culture one percent of the time, it's better to
Speaker 1: be an author than a star or no. And which
Speaker 1: rule culture is that? Again? Whastrul which roller coaster is that?
Speaker 1: Rules of rule of culture sounds a lot like roller coaster.
Speaker 1: It doesn't really, and that's a rule of culture. So
Speaker 1: ruler culture number seventy two is rule culture sounder coature,
Speaker 1: and rule culture number is it's better to be an
Speaker 1: author than a star or actress. Okay, And we have
Speaker 1: even though even though neither of us have seen the craft,
Speaker 1: we have to thank the craft and Cete our sources.
Speaker 1: The phenomenal music video to the little mixed song La Magic. No,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be afterwars. We're gonna show you the culture.
Speaker 1: And that's actually, um, readers, that's actually homework for you guys,
Speaker 1: to please, please guys, do your homework and watch the
Speaker 1: little music video for black Magic. It's phenomenal. Okay, speaking
Speaker 1: of the supernatural, and Taro Matt wants to bring this up,
Speaker 1: and I'm so curious as well. So you actually and
Speaker 1: this is something I liked even about you even more
Speaker 1: as I got to know you like you are a
Speaker 1: little cookie like me, and you like to do tarot
Speaker 1: readings and so oh god, my ex boyfriend Henry would
Speaker 1: roll over, I almost, but at least that I put
Speaker 1: him through so much, I should pay for his grave. Um.
Speaker 1: But if he knew that I was into saro. So
Speaker 1: we did a little Taro reading in the room and
Speaker 1: then I was like, I wonder how far this goes?
Speaker 1: And then you said something which really set me on
Speaker 1: a path. Try to do this with my boyfriend? Would
Speaker 1: you do with your husband? Which is you hired a
Speaker 1: dog psychic? Yes? Well I did this despite my husband. Okay,
Speaker 1: he really um, I mean, look, it's like he can't
Speaker 1: like physically stop me. But he was not like, he
Speaker 1: was not like you gotta do this, babe. He was like,
Speaker 1: this is so dumb. Make sure it's not that expensive.
Speaker 1: And then when I told him all the information, he
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, um, he was not impressed. I mean
Speaker 1: by some of some of the things were impressive. So
Speaker 1: tell us, say, tell us why you wanted the psychic,
Speaker 1: what your questions were, and what the answers were, if
Speaker 1: you don't mind. Process was telling me about the process,
Speaker 1: about how the process. Okay, So I found this dog
Speaker 1: psychic through a coworker's mom who talks to her. I
Speaker 1: think extremely regularly. I consider this probably a one time deal.
Speaker 1: Maybe all follow up in a couple of years or
Speaker 1: something insane happens. There's more of a curiosity. So I
Speaker 1: have a puppy. She's one hatter since she was eight
Speaker 1: weeks or whenever you get a puppy. Um, she's a
Speaker 1: rescue UM. And but he put his hands up like,
Speaker 1: don't shoot, don't shoot. She's a rescue lydia. She's stunning Instagram.
Speaker 1: One of the most beautiful woman in the world, straight
Speaker 1: up hot. I'll say it about my own um. And
Speaker 1: so like she puppies go through phases, like they have personalities,
Speaker 1: and she was like very like open to everything. As
Speaker 1: a young puppy. Everything pleased her. She was jumping every
Speaker 1: super super happy. And then as she grew up a
Speaker 1: little bit, she started to like not like when we
Speaker 1: had guests, and you know how every dog will kind
Speaker 1: of like bark at you for like a couple of
Speaker 1: minutes when you walk in the house and then they chill.
Speaker 1: Like she did not get to that next place where
Speaker 1: she chilled. It was like a constant emergency for like
Speaker 1: two hours during dinner and it's like embarrassing and it's
Speaker 1: like annoying. Um. And we got a trainer, UM, but honestly,
Speaker 1: training a doctas out of practice and like I'm like
Speaker 1: pretty inconsistent about ship, and um, I was like, maybe
Speaker 1: the psychic can just like crack her head open and
Speaker 1: tell her to chill. She kind of did, didn't, but okay,
Speaker 1: So the process is you send a photo. You said, okay, yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm in California, this woman is in Massachusetts. My dog
Speaker 1: is in another part. Like I'm in my office, my
Speaker 1: dog is at home. We're not anywhere near each other.
Speaker 1: The woman, the psychic is even further away. She's thousands
Speaker 1: of miles away. She just wants to know your dog's
Speaker 1: name and to see a picture too. So I did that,
Speaker 1: and that's all it takes to commune, to commune, and
Speaker 1: then you get on the phone with her, you call
Speaker 1: her landline. That's also she doesn't like email. Like to
Speaker 1: schedule with her, you also have to call her landline,
Speaker 1: which so you know what we're getting into. So um
Speaker 1: she so I was like, Lydia just doesn't chill out
Speaker 1: her own guests. Can you like tell her that, like
Speaker 1: if a guest is in our house for more than
Speaker 1: like two minutes and we're not scared, she needs to
Speaker 1: calm down, calm down. And she was like, okay, um,
Speaker 1: I'm getting in touch with Lydia and Okay, Oh wow,
Speaker 1: she's really funny. And I was like really, and she goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's my daughter. She was like, it's so funny. She
Speaker 1: just said, well can you tell him? It's just like
Speaker 1: isn't it so much better when it's just the three
Speaker 1: of us? Whoa? And I was like, I mean, she's
Speaker 1: kind of right, but she's also like it's not up
Speaker 1: to her, like I don't And I had not mentioned
Speaker 1: that I was married or anything. I mean, look, she
Speaker 1: knew my person last name. Maybe she instagram me, I
Speaker 1: don't think. So I had to schedule with her on
Speaker 1: my Yeah. Um so that was pretty crazy. It was
Speaker 1: the one thing that pushed it over the edge where
Speaker 1: I was because I'm trying to get Jared to do
Speaker 1: this yes okay, and what was the real what was
Speaker 1: the thing that she was like, this is insane? Okay.
Speaker 1: So she also like doesn't love being in the car.
Speaker 1: It's like she doesn't get like, she doesn't throw up,
Speaker 1: but she just never chills. She like stands on the
Speaker 1: backseat and just kind of like walks back and forth.
Speaker 1: It's like falls because the car is moving. Um so um,
Speaker 1: I was like she suddenly like hates the car and um.
Speaker 1: She was like, huh, let me ask her about that. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: this is interesting. Did you ever have to take her
Speaker 1: to the vet for an allergic reaction? And I was like, actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: I did. Like we were playing in the backyard and
Speaker 1: then I looked down and like her face had just
Speaker 1: blown up and it was like her eyes were swollen shut,
Speaker 1: her mouth was like crazy and huge, and she just
Speaker 1: like looked crazy. So I like scooped her up and
Speaker 1: drove her to the vet and was really upset, and
Speaker 1: she Lydia told her that when I took her to
Speaker 1: the vet for her allergic reaction, she Lydia could tell
Speaker 1: I was thinking she was going to die, because I
Speaker 1: totally was. By the way, the whole time. I was like, fun,
Speaker 1: I can't believe this is how she dies. She's so young.
Speaker 1: Daniels out of town and I was just like, this
Speaker 1: is the most freak thing ever. Is it different when
Speaker 1: she's in the car with Daniel? Sorry, doesn't Oh, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, Daniel, we share a car and
Speaker 1: I always drive. Daniel doesn't like driving it all, Okay,
Speaker 1: he drives start in other cities. But yeah, no, it's
Speaker 1: just like she just all of a sudden doesn't like
Speaker 1: the car um And I was like, and she was like,
Speaker 1: she could just tell that. You could tell you were
Speaker 1: thinking she's going to die right now. And then now
Speaker 1: she's scared of the vet and she's a little scared
Speaker 1: of the car. So you can like tell her we're
Speaker 1: going to the park, We're not going to the vets,
Speaker 1: don't worry, and she might like calm down. That didn't
Speaker 1: exactly work. But she also gave me some herbs feater,
Speaker 1: which I didn't buy. At that point you trace it
Speaker 1: back and all of a sudden, her landline is an
Speaker 1: herb and you realize the sick operation that this woman
Speaker 1: is running. Wait, is that really what happened? She's she's
Speaker 1: a very the craft. But she was like, you could
Speaker 1: give her these herbs in my palmer down. I was like,
Speaker 1: when she sold enough, I'll give her weed. I don't know.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to get on the phone with this
Speaker 1: with this woman, because I was convinced and jared when
Speaker 1: you were saying, I'm a little convinced about the picture.
Speaker 1: It's very weird. What is that? So she was looking
Speaker 1: at the picture and she was like Lydia sayings to
Speaker 1: me right, that makes no sense right now. But um,
Speaker 1: she's telling me, but she thinks she looks fat in
Speaker 1: the bad picture. No, she was saying. Lydia was telling her,
Speaker 1: I'm a boxer. Can you tell him I'm a boxer?
Speaker 1: And wait, wait what is Well, okay, she's a beagle.
Speaker 1: No I do know, because I all I do is
Speaker 1: spend money. And so I have done two DNA tests
Speaker 1: on her because I was like, I'll always doubt the
Speaker 1: first one, so I need to buy two different companies
Speaker 1: that cost thousands, I mean not thousands, hundreds. Um one
Speaker 1: was like forty bucks and the other one but I
Speaker 1: needed then to compare and they both had the same
Speaker 1: And she is a beagle, a pit bull, a lab,
Speaker 1: and fourthly a boxer, and so whenever I but she
Speaker 1: doesn't look anything like a boxer. She looks like a lab.
Speaker 1: Everyone's like she's a chocolate lab. But then I'm like,
Speaker 1: she's actually a beagle and pit bull is what I
Speaker 1: always say, because that's what she looks like to me.
Speaker 1: And then she was like, I'm a boxer. I want
Speaker 1: can you tell him I'm a boxer? And she was like,
Speaker 1: she was like, this makes no sense to me. Because
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the picture. She doesn't she's not a boxer, right,
Speaker 1: And I was like, she's like one eighth boxer whatever,
Speaker 1: and she feels like a boxer and she this woman
Speaker 1: the psychic was like dogs. Some dogs have a relationship
Speaker 1: to breed that you would equate to like nationality or religion.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, so she identifies as a boxer.
Speaker 1: So she was like, I don't know if it would
Speaker 1: help her relax if when people ask what breed you
Speaker 1: throw boxer in there, or maybe you can look online
Speaker 1: some you know, different breeds, like different activities. Do boxer
Speaker 1: stuff with her and like a pet identity. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not crazy. And I'm begging. He's like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: He was like, baby, he's like the dog is all
Speaker 1: over games Instagram. I was like yeah, but you know
Speaker 1: what though, it's not like that. She was able. He
Speaker 1: was talking, he was talking down to me. I felt, yeah,
Speaker 1: I broke up with him and we haven't spoken. This
Speaker 1: is the final wait what even? Oh? Okay? She was like,
Speaker 1: Lydia's telling me that she saw you and Daniel the
Speaker 1: day before you adopted her, which is true because we
Speaker 1: went to the rescue place because you have to like
Speaker 1: interview for dogs. We went there to get approved for
Speaker 1: other puppies who were still too young. We saw them
Speaker 1: on like the rescue places Instagram. We're like, oh, let's
Speaker 1: go like get it on the list for these puppies.
Speaker 1: Went and got interviewed, and then we're like leaving because
Speaker 1: those puppies were still too young to take home. And
Speaker 1: we were on leaving and we were approved to get
Speaker 1: a dog, and Lydia was like the puppy in the
Speaker 1: window and we were driving home and were like, that
Speaker 1: puppy in the window was so cute. Should we just
Speaker 1: go back tomorrow and get her? So we did, and
Speaker 1: Lydia told the psychic that that happened, but also said
Speaker 1: she thinks that it was She feels that it was
Speaker 1: great timing that we got her when we did, because specifically, I,
Speaker 1: according to Lydia, was coming out of a tailspin. Is
Speaker 1: this true? So true? Oh my god, unless this woman
Speaker 1: is like the landline owners, I was coming out of
Speaker 1: a tail space. That's when you get right. Of course,
Speaker 1: it's probably true of most people, honestly, that that could
Speaker 1: be a thing she picked up on, but like, that
Speaker 1: is crazy to me. And also it is. I can't
Speaker 1: describe how funny I think it is. Where she's like
Speaker 1: Lydia feels that, oh she's funny, she's actually hilarious. Yep,
Speaker 1: that is so okay. Well, I I I started off
Speaker 1: as a skeptic, and I gotta say I'm fully convinced.
Speaker 1: Now you gotta do it, you gotta do Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: when we come back, Matt, I want, I want to
Speaker 1: hear more about Jane Jared's dog, and then and yeah,
Speaker 1: and and I'll convince my boyfriend, new fan of the
Speaker 1: podcast by the way, never listen to it until he
Speaker 1: went away. Now he's in Atlanta and he's like, I
Speaker 1: love the podcast. It's the best podcast of all time.
Speaker 1: I was like, hyperbolic. He's the hyperbolic queen, hyperbolic. After
Speaker 1: the ad brick, I'll tell you all about his special
Speaker 1: needs dog. And we're back. So the dog's name is Jane,
Speaker 1: and she's special needs. I feel we feel she's crazy,
Speaker 1: she's cookie. I want to know what's up with her.
Speaker 1: She sometimes just won't listen. She is one and a half,
Speaker 1: um and that could be it. Yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: think this could be what it is. And I think
Speaker 1: they're suckers like, oh stupid, they're so dumb. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: training them is so much work. Like I just watch
Speaker 1: him with the dog and like like sometimes he'll have
Speaker 1: to take the dog and like sit it down and
Speaker 1: stop bad girl. And I hear it and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you can't talk to her like that, and he's like
Speaker 1: this is parenting. No exactly exactly. Daniels so good about
Speaker 1: that ship and I'm so inconsistent and all the trainers
Speaker 1: are always yelling at me the whole time, like they're like,
Speaker 1: your dog is not you are sucked up where it's
Speaker 1: like this is like not why this? Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: like when you're yelling at them, you're not allowed. I
Speaker 1: feel so bad. So I pet her and like be
Speaker 1: like and they're like you're undoing everything. She doesn't understand you, now, okay,
Speaker 1: that's what it is. Like. Yeah, it's it's like when
Speaker 1: you yell at the dog and then you a second
Speaker 1: later laugh at something it's doing, or like, yes, exactly
Speaker 1: gets mad at me when I laugh at the dog
Speaker 1: when he's like stop and because you because the dogs
Speaker 1: are so dumb. Yeah, I mean Jane is I've only
Speaker 1: my Jane once. She was she was very groggy. She'd
Speaker 1: just come out of a drugging nap. Well that's when
Speaker 1: that's no. Yeah, well that I mean yeah, like sometimes
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta make the dogs go on drugs.
Speaker 1: We're having people over, is this um like uh what wait?
Speaker 1: What is that Bena drill? It was like it was
Speaker 1: it was like in that I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: it was weed. Although, like there's so much weed in
Speaker 1: our in our apartment, Like we don't live together, but
Speaker 1: when we are together, there is so much weed filling
Speaker 1: the air. At all times. There's dog weed. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: but this dog I think would get second hand high
Speaker 1: probably every single day of his life. But but it's
Speaker 1: not like it calms down. The dog is jumping all
Speaker 1: over the place. The dog. You gotta drug your dog.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the dog has the energy of Ashton Kutcher Young.
Speaker 1: That's how that's the energy that that kind of butterfly
Speaker 1: effects energy is and and the butterfly effect is actually
Speaker 1: what we remember Ashton Kutcher for, and it's actually real
Speaker 1: culture number four. The butterfly effect is actually what we
Speaker 1: remember Ashton Kutcher for. And that's his most iconic contribution
Speaker 1: to film and television, Where My Car, Where's My Weed? Always? Remember?
Speaker 1: Which is so iconic to me is that the movie
Speaker 1: No Strings Attached was Ashton Kutcher, and then it was
Speaker 1: Natalie Apartman and Natalie Apartment's three best friends were played
Speaker 1: by What What What? Clearly have not seen the movie.
Speaker 1: What can you believe? Literally, Ashton Kutcher is getting paid
Speaker 1: the most. I'm sure he's in the room with four
Speaker 1: truly brilliant multi hyphen a people. Yes, Guy Bradam, iconic,
Speaker 1: mindy legend, the growing Natalie. I'm gonna wear an embroidered
Speaker 1: coat with the name. Every female director on Love Anyone
Speaker 1: was interestod. I got to say that movie is. People
Speaker 1: have not talked about that movie in that way because
Speaker 1: it truly is. That's in. It's crazy enough for it
Speaker 1: to just be mindy, right, just mindy and well. I
Speaker 1: think the craziest thing is to remind yourself that Greta
Speaker 1: Gerwig acts. Yes, they're also I mean wildly different ages. Yes,
Speaker 1: a lot a friend group. Grwig is like about to
Speaker 1: turn basically she's so young, she's in her thirties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were all playing surgeons or something, right, they were
Speaker 1: all like, yeah, we're did the same hospital. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's that intelligence. Read what they were all intelligent. I
Speaker 1: believe that we have these motherfucker's on grazit out of me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you can't know, you can't say that word
Speaker 1: kind of. Oh of course. I love Guy is actually
Speaker 1: number one and so great. I've lucked out. And when
Speaker 1: I heard, because I was excited to hear if I
Speaker 1: was going to get the job on Q Force, and
Speaker 1: I also heard that he was maybe going to get there,
Speaker 1: and I was like praying because we worked at and
Speaker 1: we worked at the others two together, and I enjoyed
Speaker 1: working with him so much. My work wife, work wife.
Speaker 1: He has talked me off so many lodges, just mentally,
Speaker 1: just like I. He's checked in with me so often lately.
Speaker 1: He's very good at that. And he has said the
Speaker 1: exact right thing at the exact right time every time.
Speaker 1: What a beautiful, beautiful, beauty beautiful. Yang's Wikipedia it says
Speaker 1: he is mentored by Guy Brandon. Really personal life used
Speaker 1: to be Gang is gay. He lives, he lives in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: He's mentored by Guy brand No, I think it is.
Speaker 1: I think I mentioned him in some articles mentors. I
Speaker 1: was like oh, guy brand him like the guy Brandon
Speaker 1: was always when we were when we were really starting out.
Speaker 1: I remember, well he did your show at Ethnic in
Speaker 1: the pit based basement and I did a little I
Speaker 1: used to do a little character at the basement. It
Speaker 1: was the pit, a new pit, not the one that
Speaker 1: was right. Yeah, we all did. We all were kicking
Speaker 1: around the many different pits. Yeah okay and otherwise, um,
Speaker 1: but he came to like he did bow and show
Speaker 1: I think you hosted with so this is like what
Speaker 1: six seven years ago, and he did like a little
Speaker 1: character bit on it. And I remember, like we were
Speaker 1: so excited he was there because we had on him
Speaker 1: from Jos Tyler and I've known him from totally biased
Speaker 1: and stuff, and he was so nice. He has never
Speaker 1: needed to be because I always looked up to him.
Speaker 1: So anyway, guy brownam is in the room. And also
Speaker 1: I should set shout out who else is in the room,
Speaker 1: which is Ira Madison, the third who I loved Ira
Speaker 1: beforehand just from like being friends. It's a different it's
Speaker 1: a different Ira. And the thing is like his energy.
Speaker 1: I love. I love sharing an office with him. And
Speaker 1: I was telling Boonen before, like you think you see
Speaker 1: a meme on the internet and it's funny, and then
Speaker 1: I gets a hold of it and it's like like
Speaker 1: the knives out thing. Every time he does it, it's
Speaker 1: still funny and like, honestly, like I'm waiting to be
Speaker 1: annoyed by like her knives are, but I'm I'm not
Speaker 1: sick of It's not annoying. It's crazy, honey, her gems
Speaker 1: they're cut. I'm just like, this is the smut ship
Speaker 1: I've ever also talk about, like expert employment of oh
Speaker 1: knows exactly what he does with the other girls did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm wait, I'm actually gonna play what I say right now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play one because this was one he found
Speaker 1: the other day. And this to me is like somehow
Speaker 1: he'll somehow just like find these Whitney Houston interviews. And
Speaker 1: I remember he posted He's like Billie Eilish New Bond
Speaker 1: theme a song and then he said this my reaction
Speaker 1: to the Billie Eilish song. And he said this, You know,
Speaker 1: songs like that, they are stories that people can identify with,
Speaker 1: you know me, anybody. Children were singing this song at graduations,
Speaker 1: at weddings, as funerals, children were graduation weddings at funerals
Speaker 1: to talk about this song. I'm like, this is so dumb.
Speaker 1: I mean, what do we have? Do we should we
Speaker 1: credit him for a moment most pleasing to me in
Speaker 1: my career? I mean I think so? Do you know
Speaker 1: how to make memes? Literally have no idea? And there's
Speaker 1: been one for years that I've always wanted to use,
Speaker 1: which is from Jennifer Hudson's American Idol audition. It's literally
Speaker 1: just this. Whenever anyone says something that's true, I I
Speaker 1: post this, Yeah, definitely, definitely that, like the words definitely that,
Speaker 1: Like I am saying that what you're saying is true.
Speaker 1: Definitely that. And I wanted for so long And how
Speaker 1: much more work needs to be done other than that
Speaker 1: clip that you have? I mean, now I haven't now
Speaker 1: you have be posting Jennifer saying definitely, but you you
Speaker 1: post the full video enough times to like an accompanying
Speaker 1: tweet or something, and then at a certain point you
Speaker 1: just post a screen grab of that and the people
Speaker 1: can hear it. And literally now it's just Jennifer Hudson
Speaker 1: standing there in front of the American Idle logo and
Speaker 1: everyone knows what I'm saying definitely that, Yeah, front runner
Speaker 1: for a title of that. Definitely definitely that. Um wait,
Speaker 1: and also in the room is Megan m ram god
Speaker 1: a goddess And also we truly gave came here and
Speaker 1: did one of our favorite episodes of last one of
Speaker 1: the best. I don't think so honey is in my book.
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Hell kitty, you white bitch.
Speaker 1: Just what a master for a bigger Disney gay than me.
Speaker 1: That's so fascinating. Yeah, I mean and everything gay. Like
Speaker 1: she's a Broadway gay, she's a Disney gay. She's a game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's like this neighborhood of Hollywood game. She goes to
Speaker 1: this freaking mall with the David Busters unwind. She's the gayest.
Speaker 1: I was. You know, when you when you sell a
Speaker 1: gay show, you're like, I'm going to have an all
Speaker 1: gay writers. Yes, yes, And then we get bumps along
Speaker 1: the way and get suggestions from the network in the
Speaker 1: studio and um, when Megan, you know, came across my way.
Speaker 1: We've been friends for a long time, I was like,
Speaker 1: I actually think that by most people standards, she's gayer
Speaker 1: than I. Yes, I would say she has like something
Speaker 1: like is going on with her. That's gay energy and
Speaker 1: it seeps through because I'll say her tweets are also queer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you have a queer Twitter too, because it's bravely
Speaker 1: still the bit is sticking where you say all capitals
Speaker 1: send at the end of every tweet year truly and iconic.
Speaker 1: I think it's been going for like ten years or something.
Speaker 1: I deleted old tweets. Love it, Yeah, I love it. It
Speaker 1: It should never dance the chest of time. It really does.
Speaker 1: And that's the repetition that I'm saying that this is
Speaker 1: the chosen family of queer force. You do that, Fra
Speaker 1: does all his memes. Megan will post every day. Today
Speaker 1: was the day Donald Trump fine only became president. I
Speaker 1: give it like every time I see every time in thousand,
Speaker 1: like she's a million typing it every day because it's different,
Speaker 1: it's different and it comes out at weird time. She's
Speaker 1: taking the time to type that sentence and hitting sense.
Speaker 1: So it's them. Guy Branda, Max Sylvestri, who we met
Speaker 1: on literally cannot believe he was your first guess. He
Speaker 1: was love that he was. He was our first guest.
Speaker 1: Out of you, I got no he came in like
Speaker 1: we probably have done like seventy episodes, and it was
Speaker 1: fully a blind date. We didn't know him, and he's
Speaker 1: friends with my man, with our manager, Kara Maslin, and
Speaker 1: because Kara reps John Lane and there, and so she
Speaker 1: was like, you would like to have Max on the podcast?
Speaker 1: And I was like, sure, let's go. And we hit
Speaker 1: it off and it's truly funny. It's the funniest, how
Speaker 1: smart famous. I will do a plug right after this
Speaker 1: and we're back. I will say that Max Sylvestry is
Speaker 1: a contestant on My Quimby Show game show coming out
Speaker 1: in April six, and he is the first thing you
Speaker 1: see in our trailer. It's so funny. He is the
Speaker 1: first thing and it's gonna be great. Him lies to
Speaker 1: Die is an icon, a genius. Yeah. I actually fucking
Speaker 1: love her and I had known her years ago. Did
Speaker 1: you know her in New York? I knew of Like
Speaker 1: the incident that happened yet hit by a jam track?
Speaker 1: She got ran over by the fucking subway, Yes, and
Speaker 1: survived and lived to tell the tale. What did they
Speaker 1: call it? What happened to her? Like? Do you know
Speaker 1: what a gloving is? It's like the flesh comes off
Speaker 1: and the muscle. Yeah, girl, she has her leg barely,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it's been a real process.
Speaker 1: She's been recovering for I don't know, six years or
Speaker 1: something like that. Reconstructed wound, hair pain managed, and just
Speaker 1: you know, fighting spirit. And here she has I mean,
Speaker 1: she has an amazing job and she's killing. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: love her, Chloe Keenan wrote on Transparent amazing. And then
Speaker 1: we've got who else is in there? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: and Mr Miss Mike we must stand, we stand. Mike.
Speaker 1: I love him. Yeah, he's the greatest, great future you know.
Speaker 1: He he's like I think, I said to him, I
Speaker 1: got him for Secret Santa. This guy, you guys, Mike Leebanson.
Speaker 1: Look him up on Instagram and he's great and he's
Speaker 1: really good energy and it emanates from him. And I said,
Speaker 1: the first time I saw him perform, and he I
Speaker 1: do musical comedy and he does too. And I saw
Speaker 1: what he did and I really like it clicked with me.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh that's I feel like we speak
Speaker 1: the same language. And I said to him when I
Speaker 1: got him for Secret for Secret Santah, I got him
Speaker 1: in this like hideous bright shirt and I said, you're
Speaker 1: a star and you need a hideous statement peace. So
Speaker 1: I got you. Meanwhile, he's got like all the hideous
Speaker 1: and they're glamorous yea. And he looks great every day.
Speaker 1: It's always look Yeah. Well, we do themes for Okay,
Speaker 1: so we were kind of inspired by the Nora Yes
Speaker 1: and the looks you guys were turning out and posting.
Speaker 1: And we do a fashion and stuff for Q Force Looks,
Speaker 1: which is just we did a soft launch. There's not
Speaker 1: many picks up, but they're coming. Oh, I have to
Speaker 1: follow it, but we you have to find follow it. Um.
Speaker 1: But we do like an optional kind of fashion challenge today.
Speaker 1: Actually in Matt's absence, we didn't have a freaking challenge,
Speaker 1: but I hear, I mean I thought the theme was magic.
Speaker 1: Oh what I missed the thing. I think that maybe
Speaker 1: everyone was focused on work today and not not it
Speaker 1: mean challenge who dressed magic? Now? I'm just like looking
Speaker 1: at Mike look magical today. My gud always looks magic.
Speaker 1: He's always before that was country strong, country, and like
Speaker 1: he looked amazing for that shirt and everything, and from
Speaker 1: Melick came over to him and was like, you would
Speaker 1: like this designer right now and was like like told him,
Speaker 1: like the style of shirt that he was wearing. He
Speaker 1: told him about like where that originated from. He was
Speaker 1: like knowledgeable about the origins of that kind of style. No,
Speaker 1: this Nelix god, um, But we've had some funny challenges
Speaker 1: so far. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I'm at a backlog
Speaker 1: of photos coming yeah for the top. But yeah, we're
Speaker 1: having a great time. It sounds truly so joyful. I
Speaker 1: can't wait for the Zachary Stevens writer's assistant with other
Speaker 1: writer's assistants, it's it's a it's a that's a hard job,
Speaker 1: that is hard job, that is a hard job. And
Speaker 1: Tims in tech and of course the hardest, hardest timp
Speaker 1: Cardinator's hard Jean Paul working Bergeron and I thought was
Speaker 1: he related to Tom Bergeron and non independent is an
Speaker 1: independent Burgeron, which actuallyly I love for him. But yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: I couldn't be couldn't be more excited about what it's
Speaker 1: going to be and what it's shaping up to become.
Speaker 1: And it's going to be part of the culture, which
Speaker 1: is the highest compliment anyone could give. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just knocking on every damn piece of wood for
Speaker 1: these for all these casting buttons to be to be up,
Speaker 1: because i want to spoil it so bad, but I'm
Speaker 1: not going to you know what, I already know the
Speaker 1: Instagram up. I'm going to use. Yeah if if we
Speaker 1: get it, who we think we're getting and there's a
Speaker 1: deadline announcement, which there I think would be. I mean,
Speaker 1: I love it now, So now what would you say?
Speaker 1: It's probably time? I think it's time. I think it
Speaker 1: might be time for I don't think so honey, now,
Speaker 1: nott what I don't think it's honey talk. Well I'll
Speaker 1: tell you I don't think so honey. Is a segment
Speaker 1: that we do and have been doing, um where we
Speaker 1: take one minute to rant against something in pop culture
Speaker 1: that we don't like, we find a distaste for, we
Speaker 1: hate even um which is hard to say, but you
Speaker 1: know often true. Yes, um, so Bowen, I would like
Speaker 1: I do have a topic. I have one that might
Speaker 1: not be an actual thing that I have. Would you
Speaker 1: like me to go first? Um? I can go first.
Speaker 1: This time you can find of mix it up huge
Speaker 1: all right, this is bone Yanks. Actually I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey. And the thing is his time starts now,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Sticky menus at restaurants, do
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about, where the sauce or
Speaker 1: the drink or the substance has stuck and added to
Speaker 1: the laminate of the menu. Darling. You either make it
Speaker 1: a fully f you wipe down the menus after each use,
Speaker 1: or you make it a damn place matt And that
Speaker 1: actually does not elevate the experience for some I don't
Speaker 1: care if you're a damn Capital grill and you've got
Speaker 1: the menu on the place matts. I don't even know
Speaker 1: if they do that, but it takes me out when
Speaker 1: the when I can read the words on the thing
Speaker 1: that i'm that my plate is on. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But sticky menus, let's go back to the
Speaker 1: let's go back to the culprit. Sticky menus. You're you're
Speaker 1: upsetting me from the jump and I I have to
Speaker 1: really really crawl out of the hole that you've dug
Speaker 1: me into. And sticky menus, I think that automatically bring
Speaker 1: the health department grade down to a sea and it
Speaker 1: only goes downhill from there if you bring me more
Speaker 1: sticky menu. And that's actually one minute. And I can
Speaker 1: say as a server, as a former server, that it
Speaker 1: on the list of backup house judies. It is it
Speaker 1: gets skipped. And then these menus are disgusting. And you
Speaker 1: have these girls. You have these young girls marrying ketchups
Speaker 1: at nauseum. You have these young girls elbow deep and
Speaker 1: salad dressings marrying those. You have these young girls really
Speaker 1: grease in their elbow. Which is which is actually is
Speaker 1: a phrase rolling silverware. Yes, I'm shaking my head and
Speaker 1: you are, and and Bowen is all of us right
Speaker 1: now shaking his head. But one actually is all of
Speaker 1: us right now. Matt wants to revive the very basic
Speaker 1: phrase that person is all of the girl wearing this
Speaker 1: hat is all of us right now. I like that that.
Speaker 1: Oh it's a thing. I would have invented it now. Oh,
Speaker 1: I mean I wish, I wish I could say I
Speaker 1: invented almost anything that I say, But it's not true. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's like all of us right now because
Speaker 1: we feel empty now backup house duties. So it's it's
Speaker 1: the server's job. Well, what happens is so I stay
Speaker 1: backup house students. But really I think it's the host's job. Yes,
Speaker 1: but that often is the host job. But these things
Speaker 1: cross over, you know, just because well let me say this,
Speaker 1: but then you gotta get hot. I was gonna, girl,
Speaker 1: it's you know where it is. It's gonna drip on
Speaker 1: the reservation. Yeah. Here's the thing. First of all, this
Speaker 1: is this is the year of otions happen online. Thank you? Okay,
Speaker 1: true enough, And that's just that, And I mean I
Speaker 1: won't say anything else about it. I refuse um over
Speaker 1: the phone. Reservations are all of us, you guys, They're
Speaker 1: all of us right now. Calling the restaurant is all
Speaker 1: of us. I mean, that's why they call it the reservations.
Speaker 1: So that I another stupid bit that we started doing
Speaker 1: in probably cross Side on high, this magic event, and
Speaker 1: I am not able to get over at the funniest
Speaker 1: thing in the world. I don't know. That was looked fun.
Speaker 1: It was looks really fun. And then it got dark
Speaker 1: for me, okay, because I looked around and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh I look, I feel and look bad. The circuit people,
Speaker 1: we can get it. It's hard, like you know, like
Speaker 1: the like and like this sort of like like that
Speaker 1: was coming to l A was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: we could go on probably I don't think so, Okay,
Speaker 1: well then we want touch on this. We'll save it
Speaker 1: for after. But but what I was saying was backup
Speaker 1: house stories. It's really sidework that I'm concerned with. I'm
Speaker 1: concerned that what we're doing is we're busying the young
Speaker 1: girls who are keeping the restaurant industry up, and we
Speaker 1: applaud them for that. We're concerning them with all this
Speaker 1: side work because we're used to saying, like, of course
Speaker 1: side rock Mary, the catchups were letting the sticky menus
Speaker 1: fall by the wayside, and it's bringing down the restaurant.
Speaker 1: Absolutely it is. Now I do have to tell people
Speaker 1: what the bit was. Oh, yes, tell the people the bit.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. Somehow we'd gotten to talk about
Speaker 1: bon Jovi. Yeah, already laughing, and then topic discussion at
Speaker 1: the gay house at the gay house is bon Jovi,
Speaker 1: and we're like, guys like bon Jovie, like has has
Speaker 1: the heads And then Matt goes, well, yes, he well, yes,
Speaker 1: he breaks the boundaries. That's actually why they call him.
Speaker 1: That's why they call him bond Jovi. And so then
Speaker 1: it just became me like, well, you know, that's why
Speaker 1: they call him Bowen. Yeah, it's like like something that
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the name. It's like Boone
Speaker 1: is a very good photographer. That's why they call him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the stupidest thing try it at home, and the dumb
Speaker 1: miss thing in the world, you know. And it was
Speaker 1: something I made up. So I'm proud. So it's I
Speaker 1: think you should be very proud and that you can
Speaker 1: source back to you. I guess you might have to
Speaker 1: get a merch store. Oh my god, we might have
Speaker 1: to get a merch But how would we put that
Speaker 1: on merch anyway? Not for the Okay, Now, I think
Speaker 1: it's time for Matt Rodgers. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: I actually think it is okay. So I have you
Speaker 1: on on my little time or on my phone, and
Speaker 1: this is Matt. Hold on, I'm looking at two and saying, Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I know what I'm gonna do. Okay, this is Matt Rodgers.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. As time starts now, I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. You made a snap judgment on
Speaker 1: the morning show. Honey girl. It actually gets good after
Speaker 1: the first few episodes, and Jennifer Aniston is turning into
Speaker 1: performance and I don't think so, honey you And also
Speaker 1: I would include in the royal you capital y oh
Speaker 1: you me for making a snap judgment on the Morning Show,
Speaker 1: because even on this very podcast, I said, L O
Speaker 1: L the Morning Show suc g s and then I
Speaker 1: actually continue to watch it and guess what they figured
Speaker 1: it out. I do think so honey the second back
Speaker 1: the back half of the season, because let me tell
Speaker 1: you something, Miss Google and botha raw giving you a performance.
Speaker 1: Ms Reese, you know she's giving you giving it to you. Um,
Speaker 1: but Jennifer is saying, and what's his name, Billy crude Up,
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna have to give it up for that weirdo.
Speaker 1: I do think he's like a psycho in the in
Speaker 1: the show, his weird performance is weird, very iris socratic.
Speaker 1: I think it actually made a comment on me too
Speaker 1: better than a lot of these other girls. And that's
Speaker 1: one minute you're saying Billy Crudup made a better comment
Speaker 1: on me. No, no, no, I said the Morning Show
Speaker 1: made a better comment like what was the Bomb Show? Okay,
Speaker 1: So I think that the Morning Show is a smarter,
Speaker 1: better look at what a better comment on me too
Speaker 1: in the Bomb Show? Interesting, I've only watched the first
Speaker 1: two episodes because it sucks. I was really like, I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's so accurate, but literally, when she fucking drinks
Speaker 1: red Bull to work out in the morning in the morning,
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think I can watch this. Now,
Speaker 1: give me the weirdest. It was like written by a
Speaker 1: computer that was told like, hey, this she has to
Speaker 1: we have to get across that she needs her energy.
Speaker 1: And it's very yeah, but I'm but I'm now I'm
Speaker 1: and now I'm saying that. I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if they do maybe, but no, I thought it would be.
Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty bad. But I like to
Speaker 1: hear that it's good. I like both of those actresses.
Speaker 1: It's a good I actually identify. I identify as Reese.
Speaker 1: Now what what about that character in my life? Oftentimes,
Speaker 1: like I'll just be walking around and like you never
Speaker 1: you ever, you ever? Like you ever like see a
Speaker 1: person in your head when you picture yourself. For me,
Speaker 1: almost of the time, I see myself as Rees. Like
Speaker 1: when I look in there here, I see Reese. I
Speaker 1: don't know what that means for me, but like Rees,
Speaker 1: especially in big Little Lies, I was like, I'm her,
Speaker 1: you are you are, specifically Reece when she gets arrested.
Speaker 1: If I saw that video for the first time, because yeah,
Speaker 1: it makes you like her more. Absolutely, it's so crazy,
Speaker 1: so long, it's endearing. But I need to know what
Speaker 1: is going on. This is that she keeps saying, I'm American, American,
Speaker 1: I'm American standing on American ground ground, and I have
Speaker 1: I have rights. Yeah, but her her going on Good
Speaker 1: Morning America or Today's show the next day icon iconic
Speaker 1: because she was like she was like, I said I
Speaker 1: was pregnant. I wasn't. She was, so she was just
Speaker 1: so like down to earth about it. She was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's stupid. I got drunk, I too too much to drink.
Speaker 1: And it was truly iconic. Do you know who I am? Well,
Speaker 1: you're gonna find out who I am. This this guy
Speaker 1: National News, I'm gonna find out who I am. It
Speaker 1: was so every everything you don't say, everything that no
Speaker 1: one else can say. That's what bugged me about is
Speaker 1: like anyone else says two of those words and gets
Speaker 1: clubbed over the head or put in jail for sure,
Speaker 1: which bothers me that. But at the I think, like
Speaker 1: I think, because it's really that's why I didn't think
Speaker 1: it's so funny, which is her privilege. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's but that is when it is internutshell. And also
Speaker 1: it's so funny because like she gets put away in
Speaker 1: the car because she's like, I need to know what's
Speaker 1: going on. He's like, man, I'm on and her boyfriend
Speaker 1: is like her agent and it's her husband, and her
Speaker 1: husband is like says to the cop I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: don't I had nothing to do with that. When she's
Speaker 1: in the cop car, she's talking to herself, resting me,
Speaker 1: talking to herself, I've done nothing. And then she goes,
Speaker 1: I'm obstructing his interest. Interesting. Interesting? Now, um, what about
Speaker 1: the episodes made you can want to keep watching if
Speaker 1: they were so bad in the beginning. Well, the thing
Speaker 1: is like I think it's the morning show, noess of
Speaker 1: it all, and I love that ship. Like I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm interested in this and invested in an end. I
Speaker 1: had had people that I trust tell me that it
Speaker 1: got better, and I was like, I'm honestly, I'm ready
Speaker 1: for it to be good to be there's honestly, maybe
Speaker 1: it's the fact that you adjust to the heightened writing,
Speaker 1: or just like it evens out a little bit. I
Speaker 1: can't really decide whether it's I'm getting used to the
Speaker 1: fact that it's like and campy or if it actually
Speaker 1: got better. I think it's probably an element of both.
Speaker 1: But the last episode, like did it did its thing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it got a little edgy for me, like in
Speaker 1: terms of what whether whether or not I was seeing
Speaker 1: was like appropriate or like responsible. But I bought it,
Speaker 1: and I should know better, Like I'm we're in the
Speaker 1: thick of writing the first couple of episodes of a show.
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's so hard, impossible, and like, so to
Speaker 1: forget it one or two, forget it, I mean, not trash.
Speaker 1: It's so hard. And then I watched other people shows.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's ship in twenty seconds a shot.
Speaker 1: It's like, no show is good until episode four by
Speaker 1: Matt Rogers. Well, I'm on the fourth episode of our show,
Speaker 1: and it's I actually felt that we had the most
Speaker 1: difficult time like breaking that one, because that's when you
Speaker 1: really have to wrap up like what's essentially the first arc,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So there's a lot of
Speaker 1: things that need to happen, if not the pilot anymore, right, right, right,
Speaker 1: it's not you're not just like having fun setting things up.
Speaker 1: It's like things have to start coming together yes to do.
Speaker 1: And so it's like, honestly, whenever i'm critical of a
Speaker 1: show now, it's like we were just saying, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: you know what it's like like to be in there,
Speaker 1: and it's like sometimes it's like it's like it's like
Speaker 1: sitting in front of a math problems. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: British bake offf when they're like, you've overworked the dough.
Speaker 1: That's every fucking pilot being pulled and re shaped for years.
Speaker 1: And it's sometimes and then it sucks always. Always, there's
Speaker 1: always always that feeling in SNL where it's like you've
Speaker 1: like it worked in the beginning, it played at table,
Speaker 1: it was great, and then you do rewrite on it.
Speaker 1: You did more rewrites, and then producers give you notes
Speaker 1: because they mean well, and then by the end you're like,
Speaker 1: what the fund is this? Yeah, it's like it has
Speaker 1: like a vestigial tail. Yeah you know that. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like it's like it made sense at some point
Speaker 1: and then it's gone through ten versions. Then you're back
Speaker 1: to basically the second version, but it has like a
Speaker 1: wing coming off its body and then it's so funny
Speaker 1: because it's like you were just saying, and we can
Speaker 1: relate it to this show because it's like it's like
Speaker 1: at ultimately, at the end of the day, it goes
Speaker 1: up in front of an audience and the plays where
Speaker 1: it doesn't like, we'll do the table reads. Like some
Speaker 1: of the jokes I felt like, like that I knew
Speaker 1: were going to kill I was just like, huh, really
Speaker 1: that one didn't work. It's very hot, very humbling. Yes,
Speaker 1: so interesting because you know it's it's got to make
Speaker 1: people laugh. At the end of the day, we gotta
Speaker 1: start packing it with gays. Yeah, it's a little straight.
Speaker 1: I think that in our in our writer, in our
Speaker 1: table reads. Yeah, I think we need some gays in
Speaker 1: the audience. Come on. Yeah, you know there's a game
Speaker 1: in every department here or there, and then there's there's
Speaker 1: there should be well we should bring all the goddamn assistance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know there there, those are the game boys,
Speaker 1: and they're going to run this town in a few years.
Speaker 1: I think it's time. I think, okay, it might not
Speaker 1: be a minute long. Well, we're just gonna have to
Speaker 1: sit here and fucking stare at you and watch you
Speaker 1: drown for the for the time you don't feel just kid,
Speaker 1: it's I'm interested to see what will happen, because Gabe
Speaker 1: has the right mind for this kind of thing, can't
Speaker 1: you say, I don't think? Yeah, absolutely, Okay, do you
Speaker 1: want a time? Remember you want me? Um, I want
Speaker 1: you to do it? Okay, okay, So this is gabe believings.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, And as time starts now,
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Me working out anymore, I'm
Speaker 1: just not gonna do it anymore. I look the same.
Speaker 1: I look the same whether I work out or I
Speaker 1: don't work out, and I just don't think I have
Speaker 1: time for that anymore. From the second I was born
Speaker 1: to now where I am about to be thirty eight,
Speaker 1: my body has always been a collection of circles. I'm
Speaker 1: the bunch of grapes from the fruit of the loom,
Speaker 1: from your shawls. And it's fine. And you know, there's
Speaker 1: just not enough time in the day. If it's not
Speaker 1: gonna fucking do anything for me anymore. I go to work,
Speaker 1: I smoke ween, I jerk off, and then it's tomorrow.
Speaker 1: You wait with the day. That's it. And I just
Speaker 1: don't think I want to put the time into that.
Speaker 1: Everyone has tips. You know what you should be lifting,
Speaker 1: you should be doing hot yoga. Hey look I did
Speaker 1: it all and it look say one, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that was perfect. You know which you know what the
Speaker 1: one that's killing me. You know, abs are made in
Speaker 1: the kitchen. I'm like, girl, hurt it. You know what?
Speaker 1: Abs are made on skinny people. And if you are
Speaker 1: fat and you work out, there's no point you look
Speaker 1: the same, I will say. Like, and also it's like
Speaker 1: you try to put yourself on like like Jared and
Speaker 1: I are supposed to be quote unquote on a diet
Speaker 1: right now, I have little rules. No matter what the
Speaker 1: rules are, you'll fix it on it and be miserable. Yes,
Speaker 1: and then also you'll you'll eventually break them and be
Speaker 1: hard on yourself. And like I did whole thirty. It
Speaker 1: was great, it was fine, and then it was over
Speaker 1: and like maybe it worked and like something, you know,
Speaker 1: working out as good for your mental health, but it's
Speaker 1: like I just like I've been so mad at myself
Speaker 1: since this room has started. I've worked out twice and
Speaker 1: it's been three months, and I'm just like beating myself
Speaker 1: up about it, and I'm just like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm busy, I'll work out again. I'm seeing myself. It
Speaker 1: literally looked exactly this. You have no reason to feel
Speaker 1: guilty about not working out. Yeah. Also another thing is
Speaker 1: like no one is looking at you as hard as
Speaker 1: you are. Yes, that's another thing. And it's like I
Speaker 1: do think that I love living here now. I really
Speaker 1: love living here a lot. My life has gotten I
Speaker 1: think better. But it is hard the culture in l A. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard at first because even if you like objectively
Speaker 1: look fine and everyone does like, it's like, like, again,
Speaker 1: no one's thinking about you. You kill yourself as a
Speaker 1: gay man in this In this l A, l A.
Speaker 1: I think that people in New York are just as hot,
Speaker 1: if not hotter. It's just they're more naked here, and
Speaker 1: they're it's hard, yeah, and they're dressed down like people
Speaker 1: here are in their pj's at restaurants, and in New
Speaker 1: York it's like you have three layers to go to
Speaker 1: the bodega exactly, and so like you look great always always, yeah,
Speaker 1: because here you look like an asshole all the time,
Speaker 1: right right, Yeah, I'm I'm I'm posting stuff to the
Speaker 1: fence to where I'm like going to dark places with
Speaker 1: all this like fucking self images. It is hard. I'm
Speaker 1: not really out there too. Is that change things for you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I'm noticing myself being like, yeah, I look weird there.
Speaker 1: I don't look like myself and I don't feel like myself.
Speaker 1: It's like, that's not the that's not the version of
Speaker 1: myself that I know to be that I picture in
Speaker 1: my head, which is a crazy thing to like match
Speaker 1: up against. Like when I see like myself, like truly
Speaker 1: wearing a crazy costume, I'm like, well, I don't look normal.
Speaker 1: It's like, of course I don't look normal. Yeah, truly
Speaker 1: it's it's it's weird, but you feel you feel that
Speaker 1: when they put you on the cast, like something did
Speaker 1: change in you subconsciously or unconsciously where it was like
Speaker 1: it's it's truly a thing where like I did, like
Speaker 1: like because when Gab and I met a Golden Globes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the first time. Maybe was the first time
Speaker 1: I was doing the whole day too. Yes, I remember this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I met in New York. We met in New York
Speaker 1: very briefly, but then that was like we talk and
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm doing yes, there's no a um
Speaker 1: and then uh but yes, okay, so yeah, and you
Speaker 1: were on the whole thirty and you were doing good.
Speaker 1: I was doing okay. I I fell off after like
Speaker 1: day twenty. I treat it and then but recently I'll
Speaker 1: like be eating a salad and then Sudi will be like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's on camera, and I'm like, oh, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: that's like not a result. It's not it's it's not
Speaker 1: like a direct correlation to like this one thing. But
Speaker 1: now it feels like it's reinforced. Suddenly you have a
Speaker 1: lot of eyes on you in this way that's so different. Sure,
Speaker 1: but then it's like but it's like me eat a
Speaker 1: salad is not because I'm on camera, but like she's
Speaker 1: like reinforcing the idea that I'm on camera, so I
Speaker 1: should be watching. Let's call her. We're going to call
Speaker 1: her right now. No, no, no, but it makes it
Speaker 1: makes sense. It makes total sense, and son't I'm just
Speaker 1: noticing that. It's it's the thing that I am. I
Speaker 1: am having a hard time talking about therapy as as yeah,
Speaker 1: I would have wh which it never happens. I'm always like, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's talk about let's talk about everything. And this is
Speaker 1: a weird thing where I'm like I have not thought
Speaker 1: about this enough and that scares me. I feel like
Speaker 1: my thing is like I'm I'm trying to be on camera,
Speaker 1: like I'm still auditioning every now and then, and it's
Speaker 1: like that, I think is the thing where it's like
Speaker 1: I wonder if I booked a show, if I would
Speaker 1: feel like a little bit more relaxed about it or
Speaker 1: put more pressure on myself because I know, like right
Speaker 1: now like attempting to be on camera and going in
Speaker 1: and auditioning and like wanting to look good for the cast.
Speaker 1: Intrectors are wanting to look good on camera, which is
Speaker 1: a whole fucking other thing. Like you could look in
Speaker 1: the mirror and think actually, yeah, and then you see
Speaker 1: yourself on camera and you're like, oh my god, that's
Speaker 1: bad and it's just like so miserable. And but like
Speaker 1: I think that right now because I'm like trying to
Speaker 1: be on camera desperately. I'm like looking in and right
Speaker 1: now my thing with myself is like I'm killing myself
Speaker 1: because like there's like a little red spots around my
Speaker 1: eyes used to be there, and no one and it's
Speaker 1: crazy cuckoo loo. Yeah, and it's just like but it's
Speaker 1: that thing. It's like when you're around the entertainment industry,
Speaker 1: when you're around you know, uh, I think gay men
Speaker 1: who like make that a priority, which is great if
Speaker 1: you do, it's like hard, it's like it's a lot
Speaker 1: to keep up with at the top of mind constantly.
Speaker 1: I think because of what you're saying, specifically in this city,
Speaker 1: because there's always the possibility of being like sons out,
Speaker 1: guns out, and it's like it makes you say grew.
Speaker 1: It really does makes you say grew. This is not
Speaker 1: totally related, but somewhat related. Have we talked about this
Speaker 1: Instagram face article in The New Yorker but wrote it's
Speaker 1: about I looked for her book the other day in
Speaker 1: the store and they said they were all sold out.
Speaker 1: You have to drift me or I'm going to read it.
Speaker 1: Have you read it? It's great? No, but I bought it.
Speaker 1: I'm one of those. Yeah you have the book. Uh,
Speaker 1: you and we love and there's a joking games album.
Speaker 1: He's like, don't like books, don't like literally literally sister life.
Speaker 1: But this is She wrote this article in New Yorker
Speaker 1: about um, the concept of Instagram face, which is like
Speaker 1: the Kim Kardashian like everyone but like with face tune
Speaker 1: paired with Instagram. It's like everyone's trying to basically like
Speaker 1: achieve that but now but then it's like kind of
Speaker 1: like expands out into like the sort of like cosmetics
Speaker 1: cosmetic procedure world where it's people are getting fillers and
Speaker 1: it's and then getting there whatever's like done, and it's
Speaker 1: we're teetering on the edge of this thing now where
Speaker 1: it's like getting your jawline like saw down is like
Speaker 1: the equivalent to like a spa day. It's self care.
Speaker 1: It's like it's self care now to get fillers. You're
Speaker 1: basically there. It's becoming it's becoming a thing where it's
Speaker 1: like that is like normalized and again, do whatever you
Speaker 1: want if you want to do it, but it's like
Speaker 1: it's becoming normalized. Like it's like, oh, yeah, I went
Speaker 1: to the tanning booths. Yes, that's what it is. And
Speaker 1: like one of the last lines and the last paragraphs
Speaker 1: in this article is, um, she's talking to this doctor
Speaker 1: with one of the one of the one of the
Speaker 1: surgeons or whatever, and he like it's making all these
Speaker 1: great points throughout the interview, and then he just ends
Speaker 1: it with you know when you get like the perfect
Speaker 1: haircut and you look in the mirror and you go,
Speaker 1: this is like the best version of myself. That's what
Speaker 1: all these procedures are like times a thousand. It's like
Speaker 1: you like, look, you look at yourself and you're like,
Speaker 1: this is who this is what I meant to look like.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what. I don't know what that
Speaker 1: don't have that you have recent least, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I do think I look like, yeah, I'm five three,
Speaker 1: have gorgeous blond hair. Highly get you an orange wig, yeah,
Speaker 1: a strong jaw, very drunk jim Yeah, and a square
Speaker 1: face and maybe an underby but it works on her.
Speaker 1: But one of the most beautiful women, one of those
Speaker 1: beaut Yeah, we were we saw a picture of Ariel
Speaker 1: from Little Mermaid before. I was like, and and bowen,
Speaker 1: I was very stoned earlier this week and we're like
Speaker 1: we were like Arrow had come up and then I
Speaker 1: was like, God, Ariel's so beautiful, and I said, well,
Speaker 1: it's just one of the most beautiful women in the world.
Speaker 1: You know. The thing about Ariel is she's when you
Speaker 1: look at all the women in the world. She's among
Speaker 1: the most gorgeous in the world. Yeah, she's up there
Speaker 1: with you know, Christie Brinkley. Yes, it goes Christie Brinkley,
Speaker 1: Ariel Windy Houston, Fergie Um, Tamara Um all real housewives
Speaker 1: and Gemma Chan and Gemma Cham you know gay But
Speaker 1: Gabe laughing is all of us right now. Yeah, him
Speaker 1: laughing is actually all of us right now right not
Speaker 1: to blast it into the micah ask. Maybe maybe the
Speaker 1: title of that is, oh my god, you're all of
Speaker 1: us right we have? We invented by Matt, invented by Matt.
Speaker 1: Important to say. I feel that one thing we forgot
Speaker 1: to mention is your podcast called I'm Afraid That on
Speaker 1: Little Everywhere with yourself and Daniels Omparelli, Daniels OPPRELLI my
Speaker 1: husband and Um Daniel mostly I guess host with him.
Speaker 1: Um interviews people about their weirdest, most interesting fears and
Speaker 1: so sometimes they're common ones like flying, but sometimes they're
Speaker 1: so bizarre. Specific. We had Megan am Ram and she's
Speaker 1: afraid of her own veins. Like it's it's like very
Speaker 1: interesting and we've got amazing guests. If you want to
Speaker 1: binge at Jordan's Peel Jenny Slade um really great people.
Speaker 1: Aliza talks about her leg so yeah, check it out.
Speaker 1: Spheres is like getting yeah, I mean she's afraid it's
Speaker 1: gonna happen in or just another trauma like god. Um,
Speaker 1: so it's really an interesting topic. So we talk to
Speaker 1: people and then um, he'll talk to you like an expert. Also,
Speaker 1: so it's he's not a psychologist or anything. So it's
Speaker 1: just sort of to round it out, and it's it's
Speaker 1: really interesting. You know, that sounds very very cool and
Speaker 1: actually like it's very interesting to find out how people
Speaker 1: can take steps to get over their affairs. For example,
Speaker 1: did you know maybe you do because this podcast is
Speaker 1: in your orbit, but people who are afraid of flying,
Speaker 1: one way to get over a fear of flying that
Speaker 1: works is to join a program where you book a
Speaker 1: flight every day and you get the notifications like you
Speaker 1: should be getting on the plane now, and so you know,
Speaker 1: this is when you get on the plane, the plane
Speaker 1: is now, the closed doors are closing, you're in the air,
Speaker 1: this is where you are now, you're plane landed. So essentially,
Speaker 1: like every single day you take a flight quote unquote
Speaker 1: to to show you that a plane is never going
Speaker 1: to crash. Like, so it's basically you experience the routine
Speaker 1: of of actually like the duration of being on the
Speaker 1: plane without doing it, and that reinforces to you that
Speaker 1: it's like every plane lands, which is pretty cool. Yeah
Speaker 1: my way of getting over Yeah, yeah, that makes total
Speaker 1: since I'm like, my way of getting over any like
Speaker 1: fear I have, Wilifly is like, oh, there's truly a
Speaker 1: billion planes in the sky every day, but exactly somehow
Speaker 1: that freaks me out even more crash into another. It's
Speaker 1: all just software. It's crazy. Literally, how does it's not
Speaker 1: breaking bad? Like yeah, fully fully full. At the end
Speaker 1: of every conversation with myself where I'm like, there's billions
Speaker 1: of planes in the air, it's safer to be up
Speaker 1: here than it is even walking around on the air,
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's still a hungry metal in this. Yes,
Speaker 1: we're not. We don't belong there. We don't belong. It's
Speaker 1: not magic, it's not it's actually not geniuses either. They're
Speaker 1: actually just like you and I, flesh and blood. One
Speaker 1: of these planes just had a weird software that made
Speaker 1: it nos dive everyone just like That's what I mean
Speaker 1: by I'm not saying that pilots and gus. It's technology.
Speaker 1: Someone thought, you know, it's like it's code and it's
Speaker 1: people taking guess here. I hope no one's listening to
Speaker 1: this on a plane, truly. Wow, Oh my god. Anyway,
Speaker 1: sorry bitch, s Hang. I hope you texted everyone you
Speaker 1: loved that. Um what what an happen? And you must
Speaker 1: come back when the show Yea, I love you guys.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we love you and we wanted to
Speaker 1: have loved you. I'm so happy you're doing in l A. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: the thing is like we was like when we found
Speaker 1: it going to be on different coasts, Like we were like,
Speaker 1: we gotta keep yea. And honestly, I'm ad at all
Speaker 1: the listeners that they thought we were going to cancel
Speaker 1: it because they didn't believe we would never ess actually
Speaker 1: meaningful when you'd make the decision to believe podcasts, thank you.
Speaker 1: I believe it was Constant who said that I believe podcasts,
Speaker 1: believe podcasters. Um. Now we end every episode with the
Speaker 1: song um wait, but do we say everything? Oh? Okay
Speaker 1: follow out Glio bliedman, Um okay, listen to I'm afraid
Speaker 1: that Yes, Uh watch every show, every good show that's
Speaker 1: been that's watch PEN fifteen. That's good, and there is
Speaker 1: a lot more PEN fifteen coming. When is the second season?
Speaker 1: We'll be back. It's coming back, okay, So we're more
Speaker 1: than halfway done shooting it coming out in two bursts, UM,
Speaker 1: there's there. Honestly, over the next year, there's like fifteen
Speaker 1: episodes to come out in a burst of seven ups.
Speaker 1: And did you work on the show? Yes? I did,
Speaker 1: I were. I just was a writer in the room.
Speaker 1: They took over show running UM and they got a
Speaker 1: new sort of like writing ep right. UM has a
Speaker 1: lot of experience and a couple of more writers. They
Speaker 1: basically got money UM a writer's room because it used
Speaker 1: to just be the three of them and me and
Speaker 1: this are wonderful. UM writer's assistant Jessica Watson, who you know,
Speaker 1: absolute genius and has gone on to staff on sex
Speaker 1: great shows herself Energy. Are you going? Are you on
Speaker 1: set for shooting now? I mean I went and visited
Speaker 1: while they were shooting. Yeah, and they shoot at a
Speaker 1: real school, so sometimes they do weekend shoot. So I
Speaker 1: went for a weekend shoot. It was one of my episodes.
Speaker 1: But they're continuing to shoot for several months now, but
Speaker 1: there are fourteen normal episodes and like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I should say this, but like kind of like
Speaker 1: special I love them and it's really good. Really it
Speaker 1: truly startling, startlingly funny, like it strikes you like and
Speaker 1: Sam are absolute genius. It's because it's so it's so
Speaker 1: brand new, brand new, and um, okay, you're truly one
Speaker 1: of the hardest working people and just rocks. Give him
Speaker 1: more money, everyone give it to him, say yeah, honestly, like,
Speaker 1: please shut this dog up. But the dog has a
Speaker 1: lot of feelings and thoughts. Actually game needs to perform
Speaker 1: at least two more DNA tests. Yeah on this, I
Speaker 1: believe she's a boxing right exactly. And it's actually meaningful,
Speaker 1: um to make the choice to believe dogs when they
Speaker 1: say what they are. Constance said that. Um. And so
Speaker 1: speaking of um, Constance, Constance woo, which is a musical noise. Um.
Speaker 1: We do end every episode with a song take it away, Bowen,
Speaker 1: what songe really listening to? Earlier? Oh? I should have
Speaker 1: started no, no, you got you. You can't remember this
Speaker 1: spot everyone, I thought you were going to do Russian Roulette.
Speaker 1: Don't know chard about that. Well, okay, Doug, we're gonna
Speaker 1: cut around this. No, we're gonna No, we're not. Everything
Speaker 1: stays in. We're raw. Pull it up, put up, it up,
Speaker 1: fall out, pull up, that's it up, ball out. We
Speaker 1: don't see its side. Let's see us dot of side.
Speaker 1: Oh shut up. Sorry, fine,