1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 2: I'm just about that action also. All right, here we go, 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: throwing in Joe spect I'm saying it's a catch se. 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 3: Most gamblers, when they go to gamble, they go to win. God, 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: that's incredible. Big bank, small bank. I like to make money. 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 3: All right, this is the ultimate kaba you want to 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 3: pass and we are underway. What's up, everybody? 8 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 4: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast presented by FanDuel. I'm 9 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 4: your host, Chris Raybond, and this is your NFL Week 10 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 4: ten betting preview where we will talk about our favorite totals, teasers, underdogs, 11 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 4: and of course build our weekly Sunday six pack of 12 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 4: against the spread bets with the help of my co host, 13 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 4: the Prime Minister of Degenerate Nation, Stucky. 14 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: Stuck was good. 15 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: That's going on. Good week in the books. I went 16 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: six and two overall. Well, I was very disappointed with 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: two of the six pack picks that the Colts. We'll 18 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: talk about. It was disappointing that Jonathan Tower didn't play, 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 2: but I was able to grab six. Still liked it. 20 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: Their defense shut the Patriots down, but their offense was 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: historically bad. And then I underestimated the incompetence of the 22 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: fighting Cliffs, which don't you We'll talk about that later, 23 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: but everything else got home. I'm glad that we decided 24 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: to go. I went Chargers Chiefs money line. It was 25 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: pretty fortunate. But and then hopefully people were able to 26 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 2: grab two and a half with the Bucks, who actually 27 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: graded out as a nineteen point winner, so it shouldn't 28 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: even have been that close. But it just brings up 29 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: an interesting point. If you look last week, lots of 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: games you know, with lower scoring, margins are tighter, and 31 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: as the season progresses, lines do get sharper and more efficient, 32 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: and which makes shopping around just that much import to that. 33 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: We talked about, you know, things like the quick slip 34 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: on fandel and just having multiple outs. But like, look 35 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: at last week, it's like Chargers win by three right 36 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: on the button. You got a little better number here 37 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: or there. Same with the Bucks, right Bucks, we're two 38 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 2: and a half during the week lands three. That'll continue 39 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: to increase in frequency, so it just makes getting the 40 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: best number even more critical as the season progresses. But uh, yeah, 41 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: good week in the books, But who cares. We're on 42 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: to week ten. 43 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 3: We can. 44 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 4: But before we move on, here we've had more Fando 45 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 4: users asking us how to use quick slip on the 46 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 4: Action app, So a step once again, can you please 47 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 4: explain it to everybody? 48 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, spotsor fandels really great new technology that only Action has. 49 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 2: So you only find it on the Action Network gap 50 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: nowhere else. And when you go on, say you're on 51 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 2: the Action app and you pull up this Packers game 52 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: and you say, okay, let me see where the best 53 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: line is, and you see it's on fandle and you 54 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: have a Fandel account that's linked to the Action app. 55 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: You would just click the Fandle option once you log 56 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 2: in once and connect your account would take you right 57 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: to your Fandel account already preloaded, and then you would 58 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: just put in how much you want to bet. And 59 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: instead of like, oh, you see it on the Action app, 60 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: then you got to go to the Fandle app, You 61 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: got to log in, and you go to NFL. Then 62 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: you got to find the game. The other great thing 63 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: about it is just you see someone put a bed 64 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: in and you've talked about this a lot with props 65 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: and like props will move, like especially a prime time prop. 66 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: Put it in. You have it up here on the app. 67 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: You can literally just go we are on the Action app, 68 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: or you can click the notification on the Action app. 69 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: Click it takes you right to the FANDLE site of 70 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: it pre loaded Boom, put your amount and embed. It 71 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: could save you two yards, could save you a point. 72 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: That that adds up. And it's just like if you're 73 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: in a time crunch, if you're kind of busy and 74 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: want to do it quick. It's just really convenient, user friendly. 75 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: So it's just another reason to have another out, and 76 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: this technology is great for all users that have it. 77 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. I can't I can't stress enough how important it is. 78 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 4: You know, sometimes you might be listening too a pod, 79 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 4: you might see somebody bet something, you might hear something, 80 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 4: and it's like lines move so quick, like I've lost 81 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 4: multiple yards, I've lost half points, sometimes full points. You know, 82 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 4: something like NBA where people were just straight up betting 83 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 4: based on a weight, scratch and things like that. 84 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 3: So it can be really important. 85 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 4: So yeah, check out quick Slip for FANDUE in the 86 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 4: Action Network app. All right, it's time to jump into 87 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 4: Thursday night football, So let's get the show started with 88 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 4: the Falcons at the Carolina Panthers. 89 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: It's not the best game but it's the only game tonight. 90 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: Let's bet Thursday Night football. 91 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 4: I took a risk and it actually didn't work out. 92 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 4: So I saw this line at plus two heading into 93 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 4: last week. I thought the Panthers would surprise people against 94 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 4: the Bengals. I thought the Falcons might have trouble against 95 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 4: the Chargers, so grabbed it at two. Of course, the 96 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 4: Panthers get blown out and it goes to three. So 97 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 4: did not get the best of the number there. But 98 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 4: I actually liked the Panthers at home here Revenge Spot. 99 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: The plus three it told its forty two and a half. 100 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 4: But you know, they played the Falcons pretty tough in 101 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 4: that first meeting, probably should have won. You know, even 102 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 4: before all that, all the shenanigans happened, with the Hail 103 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 4: Mary and everything, I thought the Panthers played the better game, 104 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 4: and now you got them at home Revenge Spot. A. J. 105 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 4: Terrell is still not playing for the Falcons, so id 106 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 4: of the same matchup. But PJ is going to get 107 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 4: another shot, and against this pressureless Falcon d I still 108 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 4: think he'll be all right. But I'm curious to hear 109 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 4: your thoughts on this one. 110 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, here, the Panthers expert this this game 111 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 2: is up, but it's interesting, I know interesting in this game. 112 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: Panthers are good, good teaser pieces. They're pretty much painted 113 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 2: at two and a half across the board, were like 114 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: a really juice three. It's interesting in that these two 115 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: teams just played that. The line was what Atlanta minus 116 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 2: four and the total is forty one forty one and 117 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 2: a half and that was indoors in Atlanta. Now you 118 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: have a total which is ticked up because I mean 119 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 2: that game did shatter. There were seve I think seventy 120 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: one points scored, but there's wind. It's supposed to be 121 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: pouring all night. We know how great Thursday night unders 122 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 2: have been, and now you're getting a total that's a 123 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: couple points higher, which I found interesting. Both defenses obviously 124 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 2: haven't been great of late. The weather is definitely something 125 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: to keep an eye on. I would think favors the 126 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: Falcons if it's just like pouring rain the entire time. 127 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: They're basically like a service academy, so that's one thing 128 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: that could work in their favor. Panthers are an interesting 129 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: teaser piece, but other than that, I make this line 130 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 2: two and a half, so I no interest in this game. 131 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 2: This game is awful. This is your classic brutal November 132 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: Thursday night matchup. I make it right on. But total 133 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: is interesting. Weather's worth keeping an eye on. And yeah, 134 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: if I had to bet this game at all, I 135 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: would use the Panthers in a teaser. We'll talk about 136 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 2: some other teaser pieces that you could potentially pair them 137 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: with later on the show. 138 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, there are, you know, to your point, a lot 139 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 4: of trend support in the under in this one. 140 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: You have outdoor second divisional game, right, So yeah, that. 141 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 4: One, there's a there's outdoor, just straight up outdoor. Unders 142 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 4: in divisional games since the start of last year are 143 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: fifty six and thirty three sixty three percent twenty and 144 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 4: six this season, seventy seven percent uh and under when 145 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 4: the total opens that at forty and a half and 146 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 4: moves up fifteen six and one, seventy one percent when 147 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 4: the win to your point eight miles per hour or more, 148 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 4: and the humidities also seventy seven percent or more one 149 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 4: one nineteen and two to the under sixty one percent 150 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 4: going all the way back to two thousand and three, 151 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 4: including six and two this season. 152 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: So a lot of things kind of pointing toward the. 153 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 4: Under, and then for the Panthers, this is you know, 154 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 4: the mine moved away from them. 155 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: As as I mentioned, when. 156 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 4: A line moves away from a team by two or 157 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 4: more points in primetime, that that team is seventy nine 158 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 4: forty nine and two against the spread sixty two percent, 159 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 4: including four and one this season and since over the 160 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 4: last about forty five years or so, divisional home dogs 161 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 4: by under six are sixty. 162 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: One and forty sixty percent against the spread. 163 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 4: So, uh, there are a lot of trends supporting the 164 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 4: foul up the Panthers and the the under in this one. 165 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 4: So yeah, if you like the t's uh, you know, 166 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 4: I don't mind that at all. But I think the 167 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 4: Panthers are gonna win this game, so I took them 168 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 4: at plus two. All right, let's let's jump into the 169 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 4: week ten Sunday six. 170 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: Pack Thursday for action. 171 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: Let's crack open the Sunday six pack. 172 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 4: I think I got one of the widest spreads we've 173 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 4: ever had. But it's thirty five to twenty five right now, 174 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 4: so see if you can catch up. But I am 175 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 4: up first this week, so with my first pick and 176 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 4: the first overall pick of the week ten Sunday six pack. 177 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 4: I am going with the Pittsburgh Steelers plus one and 178 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 4: a half at home against the New Orleans Saints, and 179 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 4: there's a few things I like in this matchup. The 180 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 4: first thing is I think you're getting some value due 181 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 4: to the warped perception of both teams. So first, with 182 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh strength to schedule. New Orleans has played an average schedule, 183 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 4: but Pittsburgh's played the league's toughest schedule. Every single team 184 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 4: that the Steelers have faced this year ranks in the 185 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 4: top thirteen in overall DVOA, which is pretty nuts. So 186 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 4: you know, they've managed to face eight of the top 187 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 4: thirteen teams in the league in their eight games this 188 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 4: year Cincinnati seven, thirteen, Cleveland eleven, Jets eight, Buffalo two, 189 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 4: Tampa ten, Miami twelfth, and the Eagles of number one. 190 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 4: And then on the other side, I think New Orleans 191 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 4: is a little bit inflated due to playing four of 192 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 4: their last five games at home in the Dome. And 193 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 4: you know, they also had a London game, so they 194 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 4: haven't had a true road They only had one true 195 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 4: road game in their last six, but four of the 196 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 4: last five have been at home, and now you know 197 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 4: they're going on the road, they're favored here. You know, 198 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 4: this is a coin flip game to me. You look 199 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 4: at New Orleans, it's been ugly when they're outside. 200 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 3: Of the dome. 201 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 4: At home, I mean they're still two and three against 202 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 4: the spread, which is not great, but they're beating the 203 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 4: spread by an average of one point two points at home. 204 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 4: When they go on the roads, they're zero and three 205 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 4: against the spread, and they're falling short of the spread 206 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 4: by an average of six point seven points per game. 207 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 4: And in terms of the actual ex's and o's here, 208 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: I like Pittsburgh's run defense in this spot. 209 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: Pitts. 210 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 4: You know, if we know New Orleans, that's what they 211 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 4: like to do. They like to run on early downs. 212 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 4: They like to run, you know, to set up the 213 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 4: pass run early run. Often if they can run all day, 214 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: they will. Pittsburgh number ten and DVOA against the run 215 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 4: on first down number five one second down. They are 216 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 4: number nine in both early down rush EPA and early 217 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 4: down rush success rate. So like the matchup for Pittsburgh's 218 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 4: run defense, they also are pretty good against backs out 219 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 4: of the backfield, which is key in you're facing Camara 220 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 4: four point seventy five yards per target allowed to running backs, 221 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 4: that's eighth best. And you know, if Pittsburgh can stop 222 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 4: the run, I really think New Orleans is going to 223 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 4: struggle here because I think they kind of got exposed 224 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 4: last week when you know they couldn't get that run 225 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 4: game going against the Baltimore defense that came in obviously 226 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 4: on paper, you know it wasn't good against the run, 227 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 4: but held in New Orleans to just fifteen. 228 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 3: For forty eight. 229 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 4: So Pittsburgh can do something similar because they've been good 230 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 4: on early downs against the run all year long. And 231 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 4: you look at Pittsburgh and where they've really struggled on defense, 232 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 4: and it's been these mobile quarterbacks Josh Allen. They gave 233 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 4: up thirty eight points, four hundred and thirty two net 234 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 4: passing yards Jalen Hurts thirty five points, two hundred and 235 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 4: ninety net passing yards, everyone else twenty point seven points 236 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 4: per game and just under two hundred and fifty net 237 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 4: passing yards per game, including holding the Bucks eighteen points 238 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 4: and two hundred and twenty nine yards in Week six 239 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 4: and Miami to sixteen points in two hundred and sixty 240 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 4: one net pass yards in Week seven. So I like, 241 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 4: I think this Pittsburgh defense can get it done. Obviously, 242 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 4: you know, we're gonna have to get something here from 243 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett, but they're coming off to buy, so this 244 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 4: is pretty much the best time to kind of invest in. 245 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 4: You know, a quarterback like this who has been struggling 246 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 4: but is a young quarterback, does have some upside, should 247 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 4: have a pretty clean pocket In New Orleans. For whatever reason, 248 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 4: they've just been struggling to get pressure this year. Their 249 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 4: bottom five and pressure rate, which always surprises me. I 250 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 4: keep thinking they're going to kind of shoot up their 251 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 4: rankings and they just don't. So now we're in week 252 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 4: ten and they're still twenty eighth in pressure rate. And 253 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 4: if also, New Orleans has struggled against mobile quarterbacks as well. 254 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 4: We saw Lamar last week, but overall the season they 255 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 4: are bottom ten and rushing yards per game to quarterbacks, 256 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 4: yards per carry to quarterbacks. So Pittsburgh's defense will we'll 257 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 4: kind of carry them. I think it's a better matchup 258 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 4: than people think. And of course I think Tom was 259 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 4: going to have him ready to play. You know, forty eight, 260 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 4: twenty six and three against the spread, sixty five percent 261 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 4: as an underdog in his career twenty five nine and 262 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,239 Speaker 4: one against the spread seventy four percent as an underdog 263 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 4: versus an opponent with a better record, and when Tomlin 264 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 4: is a home dog fifteen to three and three against 265 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 4: the spread eighty three percent, and he covers by an 266 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 4: average of six and a half points per game. So 267 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 4: give me the Pittsburgh Steelers plus one and a half 268 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 4: at home against New Orleans. People killed me for catchphrases, 269 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 4: but I'm trying to capture a thought sucsakely without damn 270 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 4: talking too much, because I just hate talking. 271 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: I'd rather do I would look that way. I'll have 272 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 2: something on this game later in the show. You should 273 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: get Watt back as well. I think he's gonna play. Yeah, 274 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: what I mean the defense. If you look over the 275 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: past years when he's on and off the field, it's 276 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: about a yard per play difference. It's just massive. And 277 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: I do agree that's the key with Pickett coming off 278 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: foot by for a rookie quarterback. You know, he gets 279 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: a really good scripted portion here, and yeah, he's gonna 280 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: have a clean pocket. The Saints can't get pressure. The 281 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: Saints have also been beat up, and they got more 282 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: beat up against Baltimore. You know, the offensive line injuries. 283 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: McCoy laugh. They have Pete who's banged up, Davenpoord on 284 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: the defensive side, Latimore still missing. The receivers are all 285 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: banged up. So I think it's a good spot and 286 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: a good raw ross spot for the Steelers. But I 287 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: will have more on this game later. 288 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 3: I hit that horn babe Let's dance. 289 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: For my first pick in the second overall of the 290 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: week ten Sunday six pack, I'm going with the Green 291 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: Bay Packers plus five, my favorite team in the NFL. 292 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: I am eight to ozer depending on their games this year. 293 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: This line, to me is way too high. By the way, 294 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: it's the first time Aaron Riders will ever be more 295 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: than a field goal underdog at home. All right, I 296 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: just can't get to this line. This line is crazy. 297 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: Cowboys are coming off by a stor If you look 298 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 2: back past ten years, by is worth about a half point, 299 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: can be a little more, can be a little less, 300 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: depending on the situation, but generally speaking, on average it's 301 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 2: about worth about a half point. But if you look 302 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: back a couple weeks ago, green Bay went to Buffalo, 303 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: another good home field advantage like Lambeau, Bills are coming 304 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: off of buy Bills were right around ten ten and 305 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: a half point favorites. This line Packer's covered, by the way. 306 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: For me, this line implies that the Cowboys and the 307 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 2: Bills at full strength are on equal playing fields, which 308 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: is not the case. The Packers have been And if 309 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: you look at our checkout our action Neweric Luck rankings. 310 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: Our analytics team does a great job. Sean Kerner and 311 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: company do a great job with those. This is I 312 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: assume the number one pick this week. Packers have just 313 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,239 Speaker 2: been extremely unlucky. The perception on Green Bay is outrageous. 314 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: Last week, for example, against Detroit, I agree to them 315 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: as a thirteen point winner, and they lost the game 316 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: out right. If I think their first three drives were 317 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: inside the twenty, they got zero points. And if you 318 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: look so, ask somebody what they think of the Vikings 319 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: and the Packers, and people think the Packers are decent. 320 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: And people think the Vikings are decent, the Packers are awful. Well, 321 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: if you look, let's just take Football Outsiders DBI. For example, 322 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: Packers are fifteenth on offense, the Vikings are sixteen. How 323 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: about defense, the Packers are eighteen, the Vikings are nineteen. 324 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: If you look at the Packers' offense or eleventh is 325 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: success rate second and rush success right, They've just been 326 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 2: extremely extraordinarily unlucky in the red zone with turnovers, particularly 327 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: timing of turnovers, and on fourth downs they are three 328 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: to fifteen on fourth downs negative thirty epa. They've lost 329 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: thirty points on fourth down attempts. Just a highly variant, 330 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: just a high variance down where you would expect some regression, 331 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 2: especially for a team that's second in the NFL in 332 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: rush success rate. Their defense, you know, is vulnerable against 333 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: the run, which is a bit of a concern here, 334 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 2: But overall it's been okay. There are some injuries which 335 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 2: are definitely worth noting here. But the Packers are an 336 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 2: average team. That's what they are. They have a poor 337 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: record of three and six because they've been unlucky, but 338 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 2: they're an average team no matter what you look at. 339 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 2: You can look at, you know, net yards per drive 340 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 2: their twelfth in the NFL. How about net yards per 341 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: play fourteenth. By the way, Vikings are twenty fourth in 342 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 2: net yards per play. They've scored the same number of 343 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 2: offensive touchdowns as their opponents. They're averaging fifty more yards 344 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: per game than their opponents. They have major flaws, right, 345 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: They don't have explosiveness with their receivers, their run defense 346 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 2: is bad, their special teams are poor. But this, this 347 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: is just a typical classic Bilo spot on the Packers 348 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: at home and this is their season. They lose this game, 349 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: their season is over against a Cowboys team that I 350 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: think is a bit inflated in the market after you know, 351 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 2: beating up on some bad teams last month, and in general, 352 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: over the course of the season, they have dominated games 353 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: where they can dominate it opposing offensive lines. The way 354 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 2: that the Packers offense works. It's not they're gonna gona 355 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: co out. They're gonna lean on the run game and 356 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: it's just gonna be short, quick passes. And Green Bay's 357 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: offensive line I think is in the best shape that 358 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 2: it's been all year. They finally had Jenkins playing left guard, 359 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: you know, back to our split snaps at left tackle 360 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: with Tom. The rookie has been really good. I like 361 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: him at that left tackle spot, so they finally have 362 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: some continuity in the lineup that they want. So yeah, 363 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm taking five year all day. I think 364 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 2: this line should be three classic bi Loow spot on 365 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: the Packers who have been very unlucky. There's gonna be 366 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 2: a game or two a stretch where people are like, oh, 367 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 2: the Packers are back, when really it's just all the 368 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 2: regression in the red zone on fourth downs, in turnovers. 369 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, gimme green Bay here. I'll go to war 370 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 2: here with Rogers as a dog, and dogs in this 371 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: range all season have just been straight cash in the 372 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: scoring environment. So give me the Packers. 373 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 374 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 4: I know they have because I've been betting against the 375 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 4: Packers dogs in this range. Yeah, like I was, I 376 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 4: was really interested in what your breakdown was gonna because 377 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 4: I you know. 378 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 3: I'm not really there. 379 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 4: I just I worry about this getting away from the 380 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 4: Packers a little bit, just because I think Dallas, you know, 381 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 4: they're gonna be able to run. 382 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be able to throw. 383 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 4: You know, Rashaan Gary is a big loss on the 384 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 4: edge for green Bay. But also this is just one 385 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 4: of those spots where I don't like to bet the 386 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 4: Packers because Dallas is one of those teams that can 387 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 4: rush for and get pressure, and that's always kind of been, 388 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 4: you know, historically, the way you beat Rogers before. 389 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 3: He started sucking with this offense. 390 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 4: But I get it they've been unlucky, so I can't 391 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 4: really hate on to play too much. But just you know, 392 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 4: from a from a kind of a gut field perspective, 393 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 4: just a little bit worried that this could get away 394 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 4: from him, like if he you know, like you do 395 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 4: you think the Packers in this spot, like they end 396 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 4: up winning or losing by. 397 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 3: Like three, or do you think they need like a backdoor? 398 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 2: I think they might win this game, but you know, 399 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 2: if a backdoor is needed and you're down ten late, 400 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 2: just like in the Bills game, it'll be nice to 401 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: have Rogers. And yeah, I just don't think the pressure 402 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: means as much here because it's just it's a very 403 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 2: efficient offense. It's just lacking explosively. Then they just get 404 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: stopped in the red zone or on fourth downs. You know, 405 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: you're saying the Cowboys are a touchdown better than an 406 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: average team in the NFL, and I do not get 407 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 2: there at all. 408 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, if they had Cooper rush Dar 409 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 4: in this game, they would be Yeah. I be rooting 410 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 4: for you though. For my second pick and the third 411 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 4: overall of the week, number ten Sunday six Pack sent 412 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 4: it by fan duel. I'm going with the Seattle Seahawks 413 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 4: plus three against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And I look 414 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 4: forward to to your what you have to say about this, 415 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 4: because I know you're on the bucks at two and 416 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 4: a half. But I so I look at these teams 417 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 4: and we're in week ten now and it's a neutral field, 418 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 4: so I have this is pretty much a coin flip game. 419 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 4: I don't think that Tampa Bay is marketly better than 420 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 4: Seattle at all. I mean, if you look at overall 421 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 4: DVOA Seattle fifth, Tampa Bay tenth, offensive, DVA Seattle seventh, 422 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 4: Tampa Bay seventeenth. Defensive, Tampa Bay is seventh, Seattle's twelfth. 423 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 4: Special teams Seattle is seventh, Tampa Bay is nineteen. So 424 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 4: Seattle has the edge overall. Seattle has the edge offensively, 425 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 4: and Seattle has the edge and special teams, and the 426 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 4: gap in defense is the closest gap of any of them. 427 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 4: It's just five spots. So you know, that's that's kind 428 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 4: of how it's been this year. And just looking at 429 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 4: this Tampa Bay team, just like I said last week, 430 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 4: I'm gonna test this this Packer team. Let them, you know, 431 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 4: outscore the line well it's kind of the same thing 432 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 4: with this Tampa Bay team. It's okay, let's see if 433 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 4: you can get some separation here against the Seattle Seahawks, 434 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 4: who you know, they're not world beaters, but they're a 435 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 4: pretty solid football team. They drafted well, so I think 436 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 4: a lot of people are still underestimating them because a 437 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 4: lot of their players that are making a difference between 438 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 4: what they're actually doing and their preseason prior are guys 439 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 4: who are like young and unproven, and a lot of 440 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 4: people just don't know them. But when I look at 441 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 4: this Tampa Bay offense, I'm gonna bet against them all day. 442 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 4: Because Week nine last week against the Rams, they did 443 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 4: it turn the ball over. They ran seventy nine plays 444 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 4: seventy nine and they gained three hundred and twenty three yards. 445 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 4: They needed seventy nine plays without a turnover. Again, three 446 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 4: hundred twenty three yards. That's four point one yards per play. 447 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 4: And that Ram defense is statistically speaking, very similar to 448 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 4: the Seahawks. The Rams are thirteenth to tvo Hey, the 449 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 4: Seahawks are twelve. 450 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 3: And they're even better than that. 451 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 4: Over the last month or so of the season, and 452 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 4: just going back these last four games, for Tampa Bay, 453 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 4: like ever since that game against Kansas City, which wasn't 454 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 4: a good game for Tampa Bay, but at least they 455 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 4: put some points on the board. You know, it's just 456 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 4: been downhill. I mean, they had that Falcons game where 457 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 4: they stopped scoring. So these last four games, they're they're 458 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 4: doing absolutely nothing on offense. And you know, they've played 459 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 4: sixteen quarters over the last four games, obviously, and they've 460 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 4: been leading by more than three points for less than 461 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 4: two of those quarters. About eleven percent of the time 462 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 4: they've had a lead of more than four points. 463 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 3: And they're playing the Steelers, the Panthers. 464 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 4: I mean, it's not all you know, the Rams, who aren't, 465 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 4: as you talked about last week, aren't very good. You know, 466 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 4: the Ravens are the only team in there that are 467 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 4: you know, I think it's a formidable opponent. And you 468 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 4: look at you know, the Bucks have been struggling on offense. 469 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 4: The defensive rankings of these last four teams Pittsburgh twentieth, 470 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 4: Carolina twenty eighth, Baltimore fifteen, Rams thirteen, that's an average 471 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 4: of nineteenth. Seattle's better than all of them. They're the 472 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 4: second best they faced all year. You know, since Week 473 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 4: four their ninth and EPA per play eighth if you've 474 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 4: removed turnovers, and Tampa Bay outside of Raymond James Stadium 475 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 4: this year just three hundred and eight yards per game 476 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 4: total of offense fifteen points per game of offense. You 477 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 4: look at the red zone Tampa Bay offense twenty ninth 478 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 4: and DVOA Seattle d fifteenth. Seattle actually struggles in the 479 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 4: red zone themselves on the offense twenty fourth, but Tampa 480 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 4: Bay's defense is thirtieth. So yeah, I just don't see 481 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 4: how there's like this big of a difference between these 482 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 4: two teams at this point. Tampa Bay loses Shaq Barrett 483 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 4: twenty two pressures, their best edge rusher. You know, I 484 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 4: just think Seattle here is the more consistent offensive team 485 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 4: and Tampa Bay everything's been a struggle for them. I mean, 486 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 4: they needed they needed the Rams to essentially go in 487 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 4: a you know, play the ultra conservative and Cooper Cup 488 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 4: to slide instead. We could have got the first down 489 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 4: just to have a second. 490 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 3: Chance to win that game. It did in Bowl. 491 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 4: Well, I don't think for me for them to cover 492 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 4: this number, and especially when you're getting into three here, 493 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 4: because now they got to win by four, They got 494 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 4: to win by a touchdown. I just don't see Tampa 495 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 4: Bay doing it. They haven't been doing it in any 496 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 4: of these games since early in the season. And you know, 497 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 4: Week ten, dogs against favorites on a one to two 498 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 4: game winning streak fifty one to thirty two against the spread, 499 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 4: sixty two percent in six. Give me the Seahawks plus 500 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 4: three on a neutral field in Germany. 501 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 2: I'm so scared. Ooh the Germans. Yeah, I love the 502 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 2: Bucks here for proason, it's like, yeah, if you look 503 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 2: at DDA, the Seahawks are going to be better than 504 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: the Bucks and a lot of categories, by the way, 505 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 2: the Packers better than the than the Vikings in those 506 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 2: categories are very troubling. No, but no, I'm saying it's 507 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: very troubling because the Vikings have played a number of backups. 508 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 2: DVA doesn't account for injuries, and the Seahawks have been very, 509 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 2: very fortunate on that front on their own and then 510 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 2: of teams that they faced, whereas the Bucks haven't been 511 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: healthy all year. This is the healthiest they'll be. I'm 512 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 2: assuming Antoine Winfield is coming back this week. He's their 513 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 2: highest graded defensive player and He's so important to everything 514 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: that they want to do. Their secondary has been banged up. 515 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: Their receivers have been banged up. And I look at 516 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 2: their red zone numbers as a positive moving forward, there 517 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: should be some regression there. And yeah, the Rams game, 518 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 2: I gave him a bump and downgraded the Rams. I 519 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 2: mean I had them. That is a massive win. They 520 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: I mean they all gain them, like three thirty to 521 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: two hundred. They need any players. 522 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 3: Though, to do get that those grant. 523 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 4: I'm not knocking to defense, don't get me wrong, but 524 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 4: like we know, the Rams offense can't block, so it's like, yeah. 525 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 2: But I'm just saying you said that they got a 526 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 2: second chance. But they scored a touchdown that bounced off 527 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 2: Scottie Miller's facetsk wide open like that. Things like that 528 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: have been happening in the red zone. It looks like 529 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 2: Cameron Brad'll be back. That should help in the red zone. 530 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 2: But their their offense has just not had any continuity. 531 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 2: Their receivers have been in and out and banged up 532 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 2: all year, and most importantly it's the secondary. Todd Bowles 533 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 2: needs a healthy secondary to do what he wants to do, 534 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: and that's blitz and bring pressure. If you can do 535 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 2: that and stop the run, which a healthy Bucks defense 536 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 2: can do, Gino Smith turns into a pumpkin. I mean 537 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 2: last week he was horrendous because the Cardinals blitz a lot. 538 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 2: They just and they actually stopped the run. As I thought, 539 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 2: Gino Smith last week two point two air yards per attempt. 540 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 2: He had two touchdown throws after two dropped picks, and 541 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: threw a pick six the week before against the Giants. 542 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: He was a twenty third rated quarterback another team that blitzes. 543 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 2: But guess what. Both those teams have awful secondaries, the 544 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 2: Giants and the Cardinals. The Bucks don't. The Bucks have 545 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 2: one of the best now that they're fully healthy. Gino 546 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 2: Smith against the blitz has just been He's been bad. 547 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: He's a twenty third graded quarterback when blitz. When not blitz, 548 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: he's second. And Tampa could defend the run well and blitz. 549 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 2: It's also much trucker travel here for Seattle. You know, 550 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: they were just on the road out west. Now you're 551 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 2: going overseas and they're a much younger team, much more inexperience. 552 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 2: And I think these spots favor the favorite too, or 553 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 2: I have a very good straight up record or twenty 554 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 2: three and fourteen against the spread. Tom Brady fourth game overseas, 555 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 2: he's what three and oh straight up and against the spread, 556 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 2: covering by twenty points per game in international games. And 557 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: it's just a very experienced Bucks team that I think 558 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 2: will treat this more like a business trip. Syuks getting 559 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 2: a lot of love, and I think that there's a 560 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 2: reason why this line is moving up despite the entire world. 561 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 2: It's gonna bet same. 562 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 4: You know, I'm not saying Gino Smith is gonna win 563 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 4: MVP or you know whatever. I'm just saying any competent team, 564 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 4: which I think the Seahawks are, the Bucks aren't gonna 565 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 4: be able to separate from them. That's my thing. It's 566 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 4: like the Bucks offense, everything's a struggle. We watch Brady 567 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 4: now as if you watch them throw, and there's there's 568 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 4: no margin for error on these throws anymore. It's everything 569 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 4: is like it's either squeezed in or it's it's a 570 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 4: it's you know, in a tough spot and the receiver 571 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 4: drops it. 572 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 3: It's there's just nothing's coming easy for this. 573 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 4: So if I if I'm getting three points on a 574 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 4: neutral field for a team that has it top twenty 575 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 4: one points despite playing the Falcons Steelers Panthers, you know, 576 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 4: the only team that they go they score twenty two 577 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 4: against the Ravens on you know, a last second touchdown. 578 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 3: That's a good value. 579 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: We shall find out. I think it's a great match 580 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 2: up from spot for Tampa. 581 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 3: But uh, where are you going? Four for your second? 582 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: For my second pick and the fourth overall the Week 583 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 2: ten Sunday six pack, I'm going with the Cleveland Browns 584 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 2: plus three and a half at the Miami Dolphins. If 585 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: you look at these teams records, and I dug in 586 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: a lot into this game, if you look at these 587 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: teams records, right, the Browns are three and five and 588 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: the Dolphins are six and three. Getting all kinds of love, 589 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 2: the Browns have been better overall this year. The Browns 590 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: are the Browns offense is good. It's top five EPA. 591 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: They're one of two teams that it's had a positive 592 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: ep on offense in all but one game this year. 593 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 2: You know, if you look at it's basically just come 594 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: down to who's been better in the really close games. 595 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 2: Dolphins are five to zero games decided by six points 596 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: or less. Right, they beat Baltimore by four in the 597 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: luckiest win of the season. They had one percent post 598 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 2: game win probability. They beat Buffalo by two, got out 599 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: gained by about three hundred yards. They beat pitt at 600 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: home by six. You were just talking about he scored 601 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: sixteen at home. They beat Detroit at by four, trailing 602 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: the entire game, get a fourth down stop late, and 603 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 2: they beat Chicago by three. 604 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 3: I mean, and they missed the call at the end 605 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 3: of the game that could have ye. 606 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: The problem with the Dolphins are now. Yes, their offense 607 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: is good and they have great receivers. A couple problems 608 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: with them. They're the worst special teams in the NFL. 609 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: Every phase is bad right now, and their defense is horrific. 610 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: They have too many injuries in the secondary. They can't 611 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: stop anybody think justin Field set the quarterback rushing record 612 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: last week, broke Michael Vick's record. Their defense is bad. 613 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: And meanwhile, the Browns who are one in four in 614 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: games decided by six or last year, one team that's 615 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 2: five and zero, the other team that's one in four. 616 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 2: They and by the way, the Browns have five if 617 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 2: you look at estimated wins, five point one estimated wins. 618 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 2: The Dolphins are five point zero and the Browns have 619 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: three fewer wins. But the Browns loss the year. They 620 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 2: lost by one to the Jets, game they should have 621 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 2: won by two touchdowns, melted down late. They lost by 622 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 2: three to Atlanta again, another game that I had them 623 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: great as a winner, lost by two to the Chargers. 624 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: Chance to win that game, lost by three at the 625 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 2: Ravens should have won that game. I'm a Ravens stand. 626 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 2: They held to Baltimore to about two hundred yards of offense. Look, 627 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 2: they're off of a bye here with improving health, should 628 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: get Denzel Ward back. And the biggest thing for me 629 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 2: is the offense been great all year and they'll be 630 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: able to move the ball here, control the clock, keep 631 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,719 Speaker 2: that Miami offense off the field. Their defense has improved 632 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 2: significantly over their past two games against the Bengals and 633 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: the Ravens. Over that two week stretch, they were seventh 634 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: at EPA per play, fifth and EPA per drop back. 635 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett is obviously dominating games right now, but their 636 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,479 Speaker 2: back end, they had some schematic changes coming in here, 637 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 2: and a lot of people, including myself, thought this was 638 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 2: going to be a top ten defense. They were lost 639 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: just communication wise, run defense, no one knew where to go. 640 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 2: They have addressed a lot of those issues. If you 641 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: watch their defense over the past two games. Now you 642 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 2: know you're getting healthier, and you have a bye week. 643 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: I expect that defense to continue trending up, whereas the 644 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 2: Dolphins need to get healthier in the secondary before you 645 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 2: see any uptick on that side of the ball. But 646 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: guys are finally in the right place for Cleveland on defense, 647 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 2: which is massive. Obviously, Garrett being in there and healthy 648 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: is can change games on his own. But yeah, I 649 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 2: think that these are The perception on these two teams 650 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,479 Speaker 2: is way off. The Browns that should have you know, 651 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 2: five maybe six wins, and the Dolphins probably should have 652 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: four or five wins this year. And look all the 653 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 2: Dolphins are doing because they can't get separated because everyone 654 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: can score on them. I'll gladly take the Browns here 655 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 2: in what I think is a pretty good matchup, catching 656 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 2: over a field goal, coming off with a buy in 657 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 2: what is basically their season. They need to win this game. 658 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,719 Speaker 4: I thought about this one, you know, this kind of 659 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 4: was in like the final running for me. The one 660 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 4: thing that gave me pause was the one place I 661 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 4: do actually think Miami defensively matches up well. Is they're 662 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 4: pretty good at limiting opposing running games like running backs 663 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 4: in in base defense, and that's obviously a big part 664 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 4: of the Browns, you know, offensive attack. So you know 665 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 4: there's seventh in run defense DVOA, but there their second 666 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 4: in running back yards allowed per carry they are fourth, 667 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 4: and adjusted line yards, they're sixth in power rank, they're 668 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 4: top five and stuff rates. So that is the one 669 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 4: thing it's like, hm, you know, Cleveland, they should be 670 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 4: able to run on anybody. 671 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 3: But you know that that was kind of the one 672 00:33:59,000 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 3: thing giving me pause. 673 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's some value Completeland near over a 674 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 2: field goal. Where are you going next? 675 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 4: For my third and final pick in the fifth overall 676 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 4: of the week ten Sunday six pack presenter by FanDuel, 677 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 4: I'm going with the Minnesota Vikings plus three and a 678 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 4: half at Buffalo, And you know, full disclosure, i played 679 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 4: this at four and a half. But you know, with 680 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 4: Josh Allen healthy, I make it about Buffalo by six. 681 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 4: So you know, this line to me still doesn't quite 682 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 4: bake it out. I don't think he's going to play, 683 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 4: you know, like it's it's you know, with the the 684 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 4: injury has. Yes, it's it's like a pain tolerance thing, 685 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 4: but it's also something that if they rested them a week, 686 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 4: I think it would be a lot better. So I 687 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 4: don't think he's going to play. So I'm just kind 688 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 4: of taking the team here in Minnesota that you know, 689 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 4: we kind of talked about it. They are not as 690 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 4: good as their record, but I think they're competent enough 691 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 4: to kind of hold it, kind of hold thing close 692 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 4: here against this Buffalo team that a little bit out 693 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 4: of I mean, even like there's some you know, something's 694 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 4: going like Buffalo's in certain areas not quite as good 695 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 4: as you would think, like for example, you know, we 696 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 4: think of Buffalo as a team, Okay, they got von Miller, 697 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 4: they can get pressure. Now they're just twentieth in pressure rate, 698 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 4: uh this season, and you know that's that's kind of 699 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 4: surprising to me. You know, Poyer didn't practice Wednesday. Edmunds were, 700 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 4: so Poyer I think might miss again. So I think 701 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 4: there's Buffalo team just a little banged up. I don't 702 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 4: think if you know, if it comes down to holding 703 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 4: guys out for this game, you know, out of conference 704 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 4: games not a Division game. I think they're gonna play 705 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 4: its conservative and on the other side, you know, Minnesota, 706 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 4: you know they are they don't they They're drow up 707 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 4: to fifteenth in pressure rate and they're not blitzing. They're 708 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 4: twenty seventh, so they're plus seven point one percent uh 709 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 4: pressure minus blitzer rate is actually third best in the week. 710 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 4: So that's kind of a metric I used to see, 711 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 4: you know, how good a team's four man can be, 712 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 4: and I think, you know, with that kind of defense, 713 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 4: you know it's they're gonna kind of sit back, they 714 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 4: can get some pressure, and on the other side, you 715 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 4: got competent skill guys all over. 716 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 3: Hockinson actually made a. 717 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 4: Pretty big, much bigger impact than I thought he was 718 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 4: gonna make in the first game, which could be big 719 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 4: with you know, with Buffalo banged up at safety because 720 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 4: usually they just shut down a posing tight ends. But 721 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 4: I think you can run on Buffalo a little more. 722 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 4: Now we saw that with the Jets, and you know, 723 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 4: Zach Wilson can go and pull off a win against 724 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 4: this Bills team with Josh Allen playing. 725 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 3: I'll take the what are they seven and one? Now? 726 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 4: Seven and one Minnesota Vikings, I'll take the seven and 727 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 4: one Minnesota Vikings to hold it close here as well. 728 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 4: Week ten underdogs on the road with a negative ATS differential, 729 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 4: which the Vikings have. You know, they haven't been great 730 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 4: against the spread. Those teams are fifty four to thirty 731 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 4: and three, sixty four percent against the spread since two 732 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 4: thousand and five. Road dogs that are five hundred or 733 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 4: below against the spread that opened plus two and a 734 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 4: half or higher in Week ten or eleven, one, thirteen, 735 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 4: fifty nine and five against the spread sixty six percent 736 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 4: since two thousand and five. 737 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 3: So give me the Vikings at Buffalo. 738 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I'm way higher on the spread than you. 739 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 2: If was healthy and the Bills were full strike at 740 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 2: like nine oh wow, three, so then you could sounds 741 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 2: worth like six ish points. There's some other injuries to 742 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 2: keep you know. I look at the Bills that I 743 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 2: can get under three. The Vikings are six and on 744 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 2: one possession games. That's the most wins of all time, 745 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 2: the best record of all time through this point in 746 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 2: the season in the history of the NFL. And they've 747 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 2: been out played in almost every single game. Like I said, 748 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 2: they were twenty fourth in net yards per play. This 749 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 2: team just has flaws all over and they just keep 750 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 2: stealing games late in the fourth quarter. Did it again 751 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 2: last week against Washington. But I mean dancers out, which 752 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 2: is worth noting. The rookie Evans is going to get 753 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 2: his first start at corner from Minnesota, but the billsers. Yeah, 754 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 2: but we gotta wait on now. I don't think he's 755 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 2: gonna play either. He's gonna push to play, but McDermott 756 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 2: said day to day usually means out this week. Based 757 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 2: on his history, Milano looks like he'll be in. It's 758 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 2: an important piece that they missed last week. Trey White, 759 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 2: does he come back. We'll see Poyer. He's hurt Russo 760 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 2: week the week. McDermot said he's not going to play 761 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 2: this week. So there's a lot of injuries for this 762 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 2: Bills team. Their defense is definitely not at full strength, 763 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 2: which is something to monitor. But yeah, this line might 764 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 2: go too far. Follen has ruled out. I might back 765 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 2: the Bills, but there's so much uncertainty right now. I 766 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,240 Speaker 2: don't mind that you grabbed that number because I also 767 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 2: agree that I think Allen's gonna sit out here. 768 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean no, there's. 769 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 2: No reason to you know, I think it's just a 770 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 2: pain tolerance thing, but there's just no reason to rush 771 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 2: him back this week. With where they sit in the 772 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 2: playoff picture. Its sound like they need to win this game. 773 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, And I think you could get some 774 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 4: like residual value here because I think if Allan sits, 775 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 4: I think they may be more likely to be conservative 776 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 4: with some of the other guys, you know what I mean, 777 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 4: Because it's just like, all right, let's just get everybody 778 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 4: almost like a bye week, you know kind of thing. 779 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be fade in Minnesota at some point again, 780 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 4: but right now I'm getting points for a team that. 781 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 3: You know, they're essentially. 782 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 4: Have the MVP at quarterback and he's not likely to play, 783 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,720 Speaker 4: So I'll take that on day. 784 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wouldn't fade Minnesota here if Allen is 785 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 2: out at over field. Field goal is just so valuable, 786 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 2: especially this year. I mean, I would look at Buffalo potentially, 787 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 2: depending on some of the other injuries, if this line 788 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 2: goes down under three, which I think it might, if 789 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 2: Allen is officially ruled out, depending on some of the 790 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 2: other injuries. 791 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 4: The question is, if the Vikings win this game, what's 792 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 4: Kirk o Chain's going to do on the play home. 793 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 3: But all right, where are you going? 794 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 2: All right? For my third pick and the sixth overall 795 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 2: of the week ten Sunday six pack, I'm going with 796 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars plus nine and a half at the 797 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs. Just gonna keep this one simple. I 798 00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 2: just think there's too many points. I think this line 799 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 2: should be right around a touchdowns, have a Tadley less 800 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 2: and if you're gonna fain the Chiefs, this is when 801 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 2: you fade them a favorite of seven or more mames, 802 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,280 Speaker 2: as a favorite of a touchdown plus twelve and seventeen 803 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 2: against the spread, as a favorite of three and a 804 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 2: half or more twenty seven, thirty one and one against 805 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 2: the spread, favorite of three or lesser dogies. Just beyond elite. 806 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 2: But the Jags, look, they can't close out games, but 807 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 2: they're pesky and they'll be in every game. They're one 808 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 2: in six and one possession games. It wouldn't shock me 809 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 2: if they won this game and got a couple breaks 810 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 2: to go their way. Because the Chiefs have also been 811 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 2: flirting with losing to inferior teams at home all year. 812 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 2: Here are their games at home this year. They beat 813 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 2: the Titans, who had no completions to a receiver by 814 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 2: three in overtime. They beat the Raiders by one. Easily 815 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 2: could have lost that game. You know, they lost to 816 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,879 Speaker 2: Buffalo and they beat the Chargers by three, easily could 817 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 2: have lost that game. I mean, those are their home 818 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 2: games this year, so they've been flirting with Luca and 819 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 2: last week is a physical game and look, Kelsey's gonna 820 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 2: eat if you look. I'm afraid of that against the Jags, 821 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 2: who can't cover tight ends. But there's just the Chiefs 822 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 2: offensive line isn't right and their defense you could score 823 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 2: on them. So I think that the Jags will do 824 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 2: enough here to stay within this number, and it's just 825 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 2: a game where the Chiefs will you know, the back 826 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 2: door might be open here, but the Chiefs aren't going 827 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 2: to show a ton. It's just like, let's get out 828 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 2: with a win. They have the Chargers on deck, which 829 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 2: basically will decide the division. They can sweep the Chargers 830 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 2: and Broncos and Raiders are out of it. So I 831 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 2: think it was a good spot to back the Jags, 832 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 2: who every single one of their games this year has 833 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 2: been sided by one possession, and the Chiefs at home 834 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 2: just been flirting with inferior teams all year, and they 835 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 2: definitely have some flaws and they're not as explosive. Now, 836 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 2: if you get the Chiefs that are just like Juggernaut Chiefs, 837 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 2: which you know once a month you'll get and then 838 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 2: the Jags are cooked. But if you don't, Jags should 839 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 2: hang around here. And I think this number is a 840 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 2: bit inflated, and especially this season catching nine and a 841 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 2: half with a competent team. The Jaguars are competent on 842 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 2: offense and they just can't close out games. But I 843 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 2: don't need them to do that here catching nine and 844 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 2: a half. Also, you won't see this go on in the 845 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 2: app because it's in a dead range, so you might 846 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 2: as well wait as I'm doing, to see if a 847 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 2: ten pops at any point in time, the risk of 848 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 2: going from nine and a half to nine is meaningless. 849 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, follow on the action of our gap. I'll 850 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 2: put this in a ten if it gets there. If not, 851 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 2: I'll be on this regardless. But we're taking nine and 852 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 2: a half here for the contest. 853 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is another one. 854 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 4: I'm kind of going back and forth on whether I 855 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 4: want to bet it. If I had bet it, I 856 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 4: would have probably picked it first. 857 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 3: Because I. 858 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 4: Swore you were gonna pick it first for some reason. 859 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 4: But you know there are some Yeah, like there are 860 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 4: things I like about the Jags in this spot. Number One, 861 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,320 Speaker 4: there's just so many points against my homes. Number two, 862 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 4: they're actually top ten in pressure rate, which you know 863 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 4: you can't You're never gonna completely stop this offense. But 864 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 4: you know Mahome's one sixteen passer rating Queen seventy seven 865 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 4: under pressure, so you know that definitely helps. 866 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,839 Speaker 3: But there are a lot. 867 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 2: Of problems right now. You saw Tennes Sagees was just 868 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:18,800 Speaker 2: destroying them upfront. 869 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, then there's so there's a couple of things that 870 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 4: give me pause to about, you know, the game, kind 871 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 4: of like you said, getting the Juggernaut Chiefs. Here one is, 872 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,720 Speaker 4: I still don't know if I can trust Trevor Lawrence 873 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 4: against non Indianapolis Colts teams. 874 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 3: The Raiders played more. 875 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 4: Zone against the Jags and pretty much anyone besides the Colts, 876 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 4: and I just don't know how you do that. And 877 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 4: of course, what do the Jaguars do. They're down seventy 878 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 4: nothing and they come back. Well, I'm looking at the 879 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 4: Chiefs last week and they actually played man coverage fifty 880 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 4: eight percent of the time against Malik Willis. So if 881 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 4: they did it against the Titans, I do think they'll 882 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 4: they'll still feel comfortable playing it against the Jags. So 883 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,760 Speaker 4: that kind of words me, I might bet it's still 884 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 4: but it is a lot of points. But those were 885 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 4: kind of things I was thinking about, all right. So 886 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 4: that is going to wrap it up for the Week 887 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 4: ten Sunday six Pack. Let's see who do we got 888 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 4: the quarterbacks. We got some Jacoby Brossett, some Aaron Rodgers, 889 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,760 Speaker 4: some Trevor Lawrence, some Kenny Pickett, Gino Smith, and Kirk Cousins. 890 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 3: So that's just a solid group. Nothing really crazy there. 891 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 4: Stuck is going with Cleveland plus three and a half 892 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 4: against Miami, the Pack plus five at home against the 893 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 4: Cowboys and the Jags plus nine and a half at 894 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 4: Kansas City. I'm going with the Steelers plus one and 895 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,240 Speaker 4: a half at home against the Saints, the Seahawks plus 896 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 4: three in Germany against the Bucks and the Vikings plus 897 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 4: three and a half at Buffalo. That is going to 898 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,399 Speaker 4: wrap it up for our Week ten Sunday six pack, 899 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 4: presented by FanDuel. Now, this is Tom for the coaches 900 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 4: pep talk. 901 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 2: Every time we get ready to play. 902 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 3: I just want to throw up so the press. I 903 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 3: don't even want to talk about it. 904 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 2: I'm sick. 905 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 3: I'm watching you guys play. 906 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 2: Just how bad can it get? 907 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 4: This week's coaches pep Talk comes to us from the 908 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 4: beloved Omar on a wire dedicated to Kevin O'Connell. 909 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 3: Show us something, man back of you against one of 910 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,320 Speaker 3: the best teams in the league. 911 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 2: I don't even want this. Why not? 912 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 3: It ain't what you've takings who you've taken it from? 913 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 2: You feel me? 914 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 3: How do you expect the run with the Wolves come night? 915 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 3: Let me spend all days spot with the puppies. 916 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 4: Let's jump in now to our favorite over under of 917 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 4: the week. 918 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,720 Speaker 3: I start, you can lead us off for this one. 919 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go with the Chargers forty nine ers under 920 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 2: forty five and a half. I think, look this, the 921 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 2: Charges play fast with poor Downers the opposite, and this 922 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 2: is a clash of tempos here. But the Chargers run 923 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 2: defense hasn't been as bad as their stats. And again 924 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 2: I talked about that last week and actually held up 925 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 2: pretty well against Atlanta. Just a fairly good, you know, 926 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 2: pre preparation game before you face the forty nine Ers. 927 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 2: They give up like a forty to fifty yard run 928 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,879 Speaker 2: every game, and then the rest they're actually better than 929 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 2: the stats indicate. 930 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 3: You know. 931 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 2: You know, if you take away their one forty to 932 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 2: fifty yard run they allow every game, then there are 933 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 2: average yards per rush all out as in the top 934 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 2: five in the NFL. So look, you don't want to 935 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 2: do that. But what I'm saying is they're not just 936 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 2: getting gashed on a down to down basis like last year. 937 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 2: They're a little better in that department. And on the 938 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 2: other side of the ball, I don't see how the 939 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 2: Chargers moved the ball here. They are extremely limited at 940 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 2: a receiver. They also have major offensive line problems, which 941 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 2: will show here against the San Francisco front. And you 942 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,359 Speaker 2: saw it last week. Atlanta under man's secondary can't get 943 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 2: pressure the charters offense. Still, it was a slot and 944 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 2: probably got fortunate to win that game. And they just 945 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 2: got the twenty four points against a bad Atlanta defense. 946 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:01,959 Speaker 2: Now you're playing one of the best defense the NFL 947 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 2: that's getting healthier. Also, San Francisco's elite at covering backs 948 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 2: out of the backfield, number two in the NFL. So 949 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't look like Williams is going to 950 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 2: play Keenan Allen still isn't practicing. You can't really dump 951 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 2: it off to Eckler all day. Your offensive line is 952 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 2: a mess. You're gonna under like, how are you going 953 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 2: to move the ball? So I think San Francisco will 954 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 2: be able to control the clock here move the ball. 955 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 2: It won't be as successful some might think, but the 956 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 2: slower team in this game is going to possess the 957 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 2: ball for a majority of the game. I just can't 958 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 2: see the Chargers doing much, but I think their defense 959 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 2: will battle. Give me the under here forty five and 960 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,399 Speaker 2: a half. Also, the forty nine Ers just always as 961 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 2: favorites at home, like they always just make make this 962 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 2: make They just will play down whoever they're playing and 963 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 2: make it a game somehow. So that means I just 964 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 2: can't see the Chargers scoring one. So that means this 965 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,879 Speaker 2: game will be like twenty to seventeen or something like that. 966 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 4: I'm on the same page. I mean, I'm actually not 967 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 4: as high in the Chargers run defenses year. I think 968 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 4: the run defense is actually pretty bad, and that's probably 969 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 4: the biggest concern for this number going over. But beyond that, 970 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 4: I mean, you have a San Francisco team that nothing's 971 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 4: going to be down the field, everything's gonna be short passes. 972 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 4: And then Justin Herbert is doing the same thing this year. 973 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 4: Everything's short and San Francisco is allowing the third lowest 974 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 4: defensive average up to target at six point three. So 975 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 4: I don't think that's going to change for the charge. 976 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 4: And if Herbert's not making explosive plays, then you're just 977 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 4: probably relying on run after the catch, which could happen, 978 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 4: but it could be like a twenty seven thirteen nine 979 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 4: or win. From my total, I am going with the 980 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 4: Broncos Titans under thirty six and a half. Let's just 981 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 4: go low here, because you have two offenses that are 982 00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 4: outside the top twenty and DVOA two top ten defenses. 983 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 4: The Broncos are number two on defense, the Titans are 984 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,959 Speaker 4: number ten, Broncos number twenty seven on offense, Titans number 985 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 4: twenty two. And then look at this Titans offense, and 986 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,359 Speaker 4: you've talked about it. They're averaging just eighteen point six 987 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 4: points per game this year, which is twenty fourth in 988 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 4: the league, and that is despite a league high seventy 989 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 4: eight point six percent red zone touchdown conversion rate. Well, 990 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 4: now you're facing a Broncos defense who's the best in 991 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,240 Speaker 4: the league on defense in the red zone there, allowing 992 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 4: just twenty six point three percent of opponent red zone 993 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 4: possessions to score touchdowns. And then you look on the 994 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 4: other side and Denver on offense, they're the worst team 995 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 4: in the red zone at thirty five percent, and the 996 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 4: Titans are they're pretty good. They're at eleventh in conversion 997 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 4: rate and at fourth and DVOA, which adjusts for strength 998 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 4: to schedule. So two excellent red zone defenses. They're not 999 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 4: going to get anything in a red zone. They're not 1000 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 4: gonna get anything on third down. It's gonna be a 1001 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 4: lot of punts in this game. And then the Broncos 1002 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 4: average pace, but the Titans' slowest team in the league 1003 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 4: in neutral situations at thirty three point nine seconds per play, 1004 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 4: So that should shorten the game. And it's got you know, 1005 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 4: don't overthink you here under seven to one in Broncos 1006 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 4: game this year at six and two and Titans games 1007 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 4: four straight Broncos games under, five straight Titans games under 1008 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 4: and per actually has day to win. You have both 1009 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 4: teams in a game that have hit the under at 1010 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,479 Speaker 4: least three times in a row. The under in that 1011 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 4: game is thirty nine twenty six one sixty since two 1012 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,399 Speaker 4: thousand and three, covering by an average of two point 1013 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 4: eight points per game, so nearly a field goal. And 1014 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:49,879 Speaker 4: remember it took sixty six minutes for Tennessee and one 1015 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 4: of the best offenses in the league, to get to 1016 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 4: thirty seven points, so now you're talking about one of 1017 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 4: the worst in the Broncos. I think the Broncos, you know, 1018 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 4: awful bye, they might do some things and you're probably 1019 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 4: getting week willis here. 1020 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 3: You know, Tannehill did return to practice, so we'll see. 1021 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 4: But either way, I think it's gonna be a run 1022 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,839 Speaker 4: heavy game plan, uh for Tennessee, and uh don't don't 1023 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 4: expect Denver's defense to dominate and hold Tennessee out of 1024 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 4: the end zone in the red zone, which is something 1025 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,399 Speaker 4: that most teams haven't been doing. 1026 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, every Broncos game is the same, so uh, don't 1027 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 2: disagree here, But I'll all have more on this game 1028 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 2: and the next second. 1029 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 4: All right, let's jump into it. Our favorite teaser of week. 1030 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, six point teasers. 1031 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:38,320 Speaker 3: Don't don't change, don't. 1032 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,280 Speaker 1: Tease me please. 1033 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:49,319 Speaker 4: Stucky has a lot of excellent content out on how 1034 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 4: you go about approaching teasers, what key numbers are trying 1035 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 4: to tease through. So google stucky teasers, uhs and uh 1036 00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 4: you can find all of that content. 1037 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 3: Where are you going. 1038 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 2: Talk about the Steelers earlier teasing them up over a 1039 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 2: touchdown in WHI should be a low scoring game and 1040 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tease them with the Broncos up over a touchdown. Again, 1041 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 2: he hears tease when you can. If you can tease 1042 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 2: through three and seven, that is ideal, especially in lower 1043 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 2: scoring games. Yeah, I mean the Broncos off the buyer, 1044 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 2: Titans off a hard fought loss to the Chiefs, their 1045 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 2: defense on the field for ninety one plays. I think 1046 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 2: the Broncos are gonna win this game. And you mentioned 1047 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 2: the red zone touchdown percentage. Probably some regression coming there. 1048 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,720 Speaker 2: Titans lead the league at seventy nine percent, like you said, 1049 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 2: Broncos worse in the league at thirty five percent. No 1050 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 2: team has finished that high or that low for the 1051 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,719 Speaker 2: past ten seasons, so there's definitely some regression coming. Tennessee's 1052 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 2: always up there because of Derrick Henry, but they now 1053 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 2: have a worse offensive line and no receivers. They won't 1054 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 2: break records. Is the best red zone offense of all time, 1055 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 2: and I think Malik Will's gonna start or a severely 1056 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,799 Speaker 2: hand per Tenna, but I think it's willis. They can't 1057 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 2: throw the ball Denver, you can't throw on them anyway. 1058 00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna load the box here and Titans will 1059 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 2: be getting very, very lucky in many games there. I mean, 1060 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,360 Speaker 2: they're twenty ninth at net yards per play. Broncos are fifth. 1061 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,319 Speaker 2: By the way, Tennessee has some major aggression coming. But 1062 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 2: every Broncos game is a saying this will be and 1063 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,759 Speaker 2: Titans too. They somehow make every game close and end 1064 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 2: up winning them. Broncos have every game is close and 1065 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 2: they end up losing them. So I'm glad they take 1066 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 2: over a touchdown here. 1067 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, Broncos games averaging thirty one point six a game. 1068 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 3: It's like they just can't set the total owner. 1069 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 4: But I agree, you know it's a I'm going with 1070 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 4: the same teaser, so we won't. I won't spend too 1071 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 4: much time on it because you pretty much said it. 1072 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 4: But like the Steelers and yeah, the Broncos, their defense 1073 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 4: leaves them in every game and coming off the buy, 1074 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,440 Speaker 4: I think they should be competent. They'll have prepared for 1075 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 4: the Titans, who, like you said, are coming off a 1076 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 4: you know, shorter rest and a game where they kind 1077 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 4: of had to do a lot. All right, So Steelers 1078 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 4: up to seven and a half Broncos up to eight 1079 00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 4: and a half are both going with that For the tea, 1080 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 4: there was to get into our money line underdog parlay. 1081 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,720 Speaker 1: Turning good weekends into great weekends. 1082 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 2: It's time for the money line parlay. 1083 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 4: All right, stuck, you did in six out of nine weeks. 1084 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 4: Both neither of us hit last week, but used to have. 1085 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 2: I could have had the best. 1086 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:24,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, some weird, weird calls at the end of 1087 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 4: that game. 1088 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,399 Speaker 3: But where are you going this week? 1089 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. Let's go with Denver just talked about 1090 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 2: it high variants game like I could end like twelve ten. 1091 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,320 Speaker 2: It's gonna come down to, like who throws a pick 1092 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 2: in their own territory. I think this line will come down, 1093 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,040 Speaker 2: so I think, but will's gonna start And like I said, 1094 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 2: ninety one plays for that Tennessee defense last week in 1095 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,920 Speaker 2: primetime game, Denver off a bye. I think this game 1096 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 2: should be a coin flip. So I'm glad they take 1097 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 2: a plus money in a game where like a safety 1098 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 2: could win it. 1099 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 4: Why do you think it's like plus three or well, 1100 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 4: I got to guess it's down at two and a 1101 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 4: half now. 1102 00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 3: But you think that like people were the book makers. 1103 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 4: Are just kind of counting on Tannehill or what because 1104 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 4: I mean, Denver's also coming off of buye. 1105 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:04,920 Speaker 3: Actually seems no. 1106 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 2: One wants to bet Denver. And then people in Tennessee 1107 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 2: keeps covering. They've covered six in a row, so they 1108 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 2: keep making people money. Who wants to bet Denver to 1109 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 2: win at Tennessee when all Tennessee does is that they 1110 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 2: just find ways to cover. But uh, yeah, I think 1111 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,239 Speaker 2: it was kind of a hedge. But I think it'll 1112 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,839 Speaker 2: continue to come down if Tannehill is announced out. 1113 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,319 Speaker 4: All right, I'll go with Arizona plus one oh six here, 1114 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,240 Speaker 4: And I know Cliff does not beat McVeigh. 1115 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 3: It never happens. 1116 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:37,319 Speaker 4: But as we were recording this, there is some uncertainty 1117 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,920 Speaker 4: about Matthew Stafford, and you know he's in a concussion protocol. 1118 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 3: Don't know if he's gonna go. 1119 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:47,479 Speaker 4: And even before right even before that, though, I'm looking 1120 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 4: at this game trying to handicap it. You know, with 1121 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 4: the prior knowledge that McVeigh owns Cliff, I'm trying to 1122 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 4: figure out, like, okay, well what is Thatt like on 1123 00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,759 Speaker 4: the field, Like what is actually going to give the 1124 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 4: ram that edge in this game? And I really don't 1125 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 4: think this Rams team is the same as those teams 1126 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 4: that have historically owned Cliff because now they're not getting 1127 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 4: pressure and that's really you know, you want to pressure 1128 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray. I mean, that's very haphazard, sloppy play when 1129 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,400 Speaker 4: he's under pressures. Passer ratings very poor. But you know, 1130 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 4: this Rams defense not getting pressure anymore. And on the 1131 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 4: other side of the ball, you know, maybe they get 1132 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 4: shelting back, which would help a lot because Evans has 1133 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,040 Speaker 4: been like pretty much the worst lineman in the game 1134 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 4: on the interior for the Rams. But they can't really 1135 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:40,560 Speaker 4: block their very one dimensional on offense. So it's like 1136 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 4: a lot of their edges that they've had over the 1137 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 4: Cardinals in previous previous. 1138 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:45,799 Speaker 3: Years really aren't there. 1139 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 4: So you know, even if Stafford plays, I think Arizona 1140 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,839 Speaker 4: might surprise some people here and we know this is 1141 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 4: this is the Arizona spot on the road. Everyone counting 1142 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 4: them out. Cliff thirteen to eight and two sixty two 1143 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 4: percent as a road dog on the money line. That's 1144 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,280 Speaker 4: a seventy ROI so give me the Cards. 1145 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. My problem is it's also the spot where you fade, Yeah, 1146 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,840 Speaker 2: Cliff after the second half of the year. Yeah, I 1147 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 2: mean big Veays puts seven to one six one and 1148 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 2: one against the spread. Murray only eight touchdowns in eight 1149 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 2: games against the Rams, averaging twenty rushing yards. Also, and 1150 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 2: then Hopkins has been shut down in this matchup as well. 1151 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 2: The thing that would worry me is, yeah, the Rams 1152 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 2: aren't getting pressure, which would help, but they might be 1153 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 2: able to get pressure here because the Cardinals into your 1154 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,440 Speaker 2: offensive line. I mean, it is a mess. What's his 1155 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,960 Speaker 2: name for? Seattle looked like Aaron Donald last week, So 1156 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 2: what's Aaron Donald going to look like? I mean, they 1157 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 2: were They couldn't even snap the ball you will, I mean, 1158 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 2: Hernandez went out and they have a rookie in there guard. 1159 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 2: It was a disaster. They're intier offensive line. Now you 1160 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,000 Speaker 2: also lose boot of Baker, your defensive leader on the 1161 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,400 Speaker 2: back end, which certainly doesn't help. 1162 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 3: But this game is cross Yeah, I means were just bad. 1163 00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, we know the Cardinals are shaky, but 1164 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:02,800 Speaker 4: the Rams that's the issue. 1165 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 3: The Rams are just a shaky at this point. You know, 1166 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 3: I don't see any reason why the Cardinals couldn't win 1167 00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 3: this game. 1168 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially well maybe Wolford going in there and running around. 1169 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 2: Maybe you don't want that. He actually can move around 1170 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 2: a little bit. 1171 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I went to I went to a preseason game 1172 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 4: with Wolford a couple you know, earlier this year. Rams 1173 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,720 Speaker 4: fans don't want that, trust they don't. 1174 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:22,360 Speaker 2: Run around a little bit. 1175 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it's. 1176 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 4: It's like Sam Allender running around against the Patriot Not 1177 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 4: really great. 1178 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 3: All right. 1179 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 4: So if you probably way the Broncos plus one to 1180 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:37,360 Speaker 4: eighteen and the Cardinals plus one oh six, it's about 1181 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 4: three point five x payouts, So one hundred gets you 1182 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 4: four forty nine back. Hopefully we can get back on 1183 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 4: track and hit one of these again. But now it's 1184 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 4: time for the best of the rest of games. We 1185 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 4: haven't covered in any of their segment, but are still, 1186 00:58:54,680 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 4: as they say, meaningful to some That's gonna be a touchdown, 1187 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 4: but that made me meaningful to some of. 1188 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 3: You, and you know what I mean. All right. 1189 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,560 Speaker 4: First up, we got the Lions at the Bears. 1190 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:10,720 Speaker 3: The Bears are three point favorites. 1191 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,280 Speaker 4: In Soldier Field, the totals forty eight and a half, 1192 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 4: and I wanted to get your thoughts on. You know, 1193 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 4: we talk a lot about kind of adjusting to things 1194 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 4: that change and schematic changes. 1195 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 3: One thing I've noticed, justin. 1196 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 4: Fields start to start the year, he was the worst 1197 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 4: quarterback against the blitz the last three weeks when he's 1198 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 4: been blitzed thirty four dropbacks twenty three of twenty eight, 1199 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:39,720 Speaker 4: two hundred and ten yards, five touchdowns, no picks, eighty 1200 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 4: two percent completion percentage seven and a half yards an attempted, 1201 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,480 Speaker 4: only three sacks taken on those thirty four dropbacks. Weeks 1202 00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 4: one to six when he was blitzed fifty dropbacks twelve 1203 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,919 Speaker 4: of thirty one, just thirty nine percent completion for only 1204 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,800 Speaker 4: six point four yards per attempt and ten sacks on 1205 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 4: fifty dropbacks, so about twenty percent of the time. So, 1206 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,360 Speaker 4: I mean he's just come completely turned it around, kind 1207 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 4: of like we were talking with Lamar. 1208 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 3: You know, just kind of flipping the script against the blitz. 1209 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 4: I wonder if you notice that against fields, and does 1210 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 4: it give you any angles for this one? 1211 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's he's improving, which is what you 1212 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,680 Speaker 2: want to see for a quarterback in his second season. Also, 1213 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:22,040 Speaker 2: like he hasn't had the best surroundings, so like it 1214 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 2: might have, it's going to take it a little longer. 1215 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 2: Now he's gotten better. He has better coaching, in my opinion, 1216 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 2: just as important, it's the designed runs. He had twenty 1217 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,880 Speaker 2: six designed runs in his first sixteen starts. By the way, 1218 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,840 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson one hundred and forty five in his first 1219 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:43,240 Speaker 2: sixteen starts. It's what a competent organization does. But Fields 1220 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,880 Speaker 2: now better coaching. Last three starts twenty one, twenty one, 1221 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,280 Speaker 2: his last three starts twenty six in his first sixteen 1222 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,320 Speaker 2: and he's going nuts. He just broke the single game 1223 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,400 Speaker 2: rushing record, So I think him running has also given 1224 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 2: a lot more confidence overall. He's obviously improving, getting more 1225 01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 2: comfortable just in the game overall. So yeah, I would 1226 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,440 Speaker 2: with the way that this Bears offense is trending and 1227 01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 2: Fields is trending, and the issues that the Bears have 1228 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,640 Speaker 2: on defense, Like I mean, they're also just like trading 1229 01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 2: away their best players. They're they're like definitely an overteam. Yeah, 1230 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 2: but I don't golf, who's ten and one straight up 1231 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,960 Speaker 2: on the road in his last eleven starts, losing by 1232 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,480 Speaker 2: thirteen points per game. Golf turns into a pumpkin outdoors. 1233 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't know if I could trust. 1234 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 2: The Lions here, So I don't know I would lean 1235 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 2: the Bears lean over. I'll probably end up staying away, 1236 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,800 Speaker 2: but I definitely think that the Bears are trending up. 1237 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:38,760 Speaker 2: And then my just a question that I wanted to 1238 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:45,240 Speaker 2: ask you is fields Trevor Zach Wilson, Mac Jones, By 1239 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 2: the way, Jet said, I do want to say something 1240 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,400 Speaker 2: nice about the Jetsons. Their defense last week really impressive 1241 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 2: because they've been playing a lot of backup quarterbacks, so 1242 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 2: I wanted to see them do it against an elite offense. 1243 01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:58,960 Speaker 3: I was saying this. I was screaming it out, man. 1244 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 3: I was like, Yo, this is it. It's just they're 1245 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:01,720 Speaker 3: too talented, Like I know. 1246 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 2: You can also get a pressure without blitzing, which is yeah, 1247 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,440 Speaker 2: it's key. So do you got justin fields Trevor Lawrence, 1248 01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 2: Zach Wilson, Mac Jones, Davis Mills, Sam Ellinger. Those are 1249 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:19,240 Speaker 2: your quarterbacks from the twenty twenty one draft class. Taking 1250 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 2: what in the first couple of rounds, like you're are 1251 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 2: you taking fields? Going for it? I mean, it's not Wilson, 1252 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,840 Speaker 2: it's not Ellinger. So it basically comes down to like Jones, 1253 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,880 Speaker 2: Lawrence or Fields. If you asked me a year ago, 1254 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 2: there was zero chance I'm taking fields, I might, I 1255 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:38,640 Speaker 2: might take fields. 1256 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 4: Now yeah I'm taking fields. I don't think you think 1257 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 4: it's a question. I've I've watched every field again large times. 1258 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 2: If you think that he can get to that ceiling, 1259 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,960 Speaker 2: I don't think that any other quarterbacks are even worth mentioning. 1260 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,800 Speaker 2: But like it's been this year two with Lawrence. Now 1261 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,160 Speaker 2: we're seeing the improvement with Fields, who's in a much 1262 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:55,960 Speaker 2: worse situation. 1263 01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm telling you, I'm watching Lawrence very cool, and 1264 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,440 Speaker 4: something's just not quite right. It's like, yes, he has 1265 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,840 Speaker 4: he has talent, he has physical tools, but it's just 1266 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 4: something about the way he plays quarterback is just nothing's 1267 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 4: nothing really comes easy. Throws are not quite as accurate 1268 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,840 Speaker 4: as they need to be. Puts the ball in Harm's way, 1269 01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 4: can't always finish with throws in the red zone. Like 1270 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,080 Speaker 4: it's just I don't know, I don't know when it's 1271 01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,280 Speaker 4: going to start. I mean, yeah, we'll give him a 1272 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,240 Speaker 4: mulligan for last year, but now, like you said, we're 1273 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,960 Speaker 4: halfway through the next year. He's got an upgraded receiving court, 1274 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:36,440 Speaker 4: upgraded coaching staff. 1275 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,240 Speaker 3: You know, they haven't been getting blown out. 1276 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,560 Speaker 4: They're always in the game, so it's not like just 1277 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,040 Speaker 4: playing with a shit supporting cast. And it's just still 1278 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 4: very underwhelming against everyone pretty much but the Colts. So yeah, 1279 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 4: I'd be worried about Lawrence if I'm a I'm a 1280 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:50,560 Speaker 4: Jags fan, honestly. 1281 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:53,880 Speaker 3: All right, Uh, next one up, we. 1282 01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:59,480 Speaker 4: Got Davis Mills and the Texans going to East rust 1283 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 4: Her to take on the Giants. Giants five and a 1284 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,880 Speaker 4: half point favorites total forty and a half. There has 1285 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,440 Speaker 4: been some sharp action on the over here that Texans 1286 01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,920 Speaker 4: defense against the run not very good Giants coming off 1287 01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:10,200 Speaker 4: of buye. 1288 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:11,240 Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on this one? 1289 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,400 Speaker 2: The Giants homeowners are fifty to one. 1290 01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,000 Speaker 3: No kind of caught my attention. 1291 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 2: Points per game. I had no interest in this. I 1292 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,080 Speaker 2: think there's a little bit of value in the Giants. 1293 01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 2: They're dealing with some key injuries, but should be able 1294 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,440 Speaker 2: to just line up and run it. Do I ever 1295 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,320 Speaker 2: want to back this Giants team? Laying a number. 1296 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:26,840 Speaker 4: No. 1297 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, My sets up is like Giants winning buy they 1298 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:31,520 Speaker 2: always do. 1299 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:36,080 Speaker 4: It twenty two to seventeen, twenty two. They'll miss an 1300 01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,000 Speaker 4: extra like that, get a safety. 1301 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 2: No interest in this game, we're talking about it. 1302 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:47,600 Speaker 4: And the final one the Colts at the Raiders Raiders 1303 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,560 Speaker 4: five and a half point favorites total forty two and 1304 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:54,040 Speaker 4: a half sharp action on Vegas in the under and 1305 01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 4: cold to another team I was thinking about because there's 1306 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,640 Speaker 4: just so much on certainty. But they actually do match 1307 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 4: up well with the Raiders. I mean they play a 1308 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,360 Speaker 4: ton of zone. The Raiders have not been doing a 1309 01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 4: car in the you know car in the offense have 1310 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:15,560 Speaker 4: not been doing well against own coverage. They they can 1311 01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:19,440 Speaker 4: stop the run, they get pressure that without blitzing a 1312 01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:25,680 Speaker 4: ton and Ellinger now is gonna be indoors and you know, 1313 01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:27,560 Speaker 4: not going against the defense that gets a ton of 1314 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:31,520 Speaker 4: pressure and the defense that you know struggled against running 1315 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,240 Speaker 4: backs out of the backfield. So I think the coach 1316 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 4: match up, but I have no idea how to handicap 1317 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,920 Speaker 4: with Jeff Saturday and this you know, random offensive coordinator 1318 01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:42,479 Speaker 4: and all this, Like, I don't know what it's gonna 1319 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 4: look like. 1320 01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:43,520 Speaker 3: Do you have any idea. 1321 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:46,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I can't figure out the Raiders. Here's 1322 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 2: I bet them against the Titans. I thought that they 1323 01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:52,080 Speaker 2: should have covered. I bet them against the Chiefs. They 1324 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:57,680 Speaker 2: can cover, yeah, and then I bet them against Uh. 1325 01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 2: The Broncos got lucky there. I didn't learn anything in 1326 01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:02,640 Speaker 2: any of the games. I can't fig I don't know 1327 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 2: who they are, so very weird team. The Colts would 1328 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,880 Speaker 2: scare me here because of Saturday. There was a if 1329 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,560 Speaker 2: you go back to a famous argument on the sidelines 1330 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 2: between Manning and Saturday, and he's just like, when are 1331 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,600 Speaker 2: we going to run the ball? Run the ball? We 1332 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 2: came off the field and we exchanged words of how 1333 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 2: we thought they should get done. 1334 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,400 Speaker 1: And Jeff comes off and says, we need to be 1335 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:29,480 Speaker 1: running the ball down there, and I just I just snapped. 1336 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 3: Right, we call them plays. 1337 01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:36,120 Speaker 2: We got to run the ball. 1338 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,360 Speaker 3: We run it down there, We run it down Jeff. 1339 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:44,960 Speaker 2: Will I was calling come and now he came out 1340 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,360 Speaker 2: and he said, you know, he doesn't want to go 1341 01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,760 Speaker 2: for it as much and he wants to worry about 1342 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,560 Speaker 2: just getting points. Like I feel like the Colts are 1343 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 2: just gonna turn around and handed off like a hundred 1344 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:56,160 Speaker 2: times and be so underful, not be aggressive at all. Yeah, 1345 01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,600 Speaker 2: I would look at the Colts defense played really well 1346 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 2: last week. They're off it's a line is a mess. 1347 01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,280 Speaker 2: Tailor is obviously not healthy. Allender was a mes last 1348 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:04,959 Speaker 2: week going to know how bad their offense was last week. 1349 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:05,920 Speaker 3: I mean, Joe. 1350 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,800 Speaker 2: Belchi came out and they he changed play cars. He 1351 01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,040 Speaker 2: said the Colts knew their place and they still got 1352 01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:10,560 Speaker 2: blown out. 1353 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I heard that, actually, nut. 1354 01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:19,560 Speaker 2: The Colts were negative thirty five EPA. That's their worst 1355 01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,800 Speaker 2: game since two thousand. That's the ninth worst offensive game 1356 01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:26,160 Speaker 2: since two thousand. They were sacked nine times, they had 1357 01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,760 Speaker 2: zero third down conversions. They averaged one point nine yards 1358 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 2: per play. That's the worst for Colts offense in forty 1359 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,440 Speaker 2: five years. Horrific. So, I mean, if you want to 1360 01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,480 Speaker 2: buy a low on the Colts, this is probably the opportunity. 1361 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 2: And the Braiders aren't a team that builds margin. I 1362 01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 2: just still think it's gonna work out with Saturday and 1363 01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,280 Speaker 2: the play calling. By the way, the Colts are zero 1364 01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,960 Speaker 2: to nine against the spread in the first half. Maybe 1365 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,480 Speaker 2: the scripted portion gets better here and there's some unexpected calls, 1366 01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,080 Speaker 2: but I don't trust Saturday. They do that like the 1367 01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:56,440 Speaker 2: scripted Porschmans. So bad this year, and this is like 1368 01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:00,400 Speaker 2: the third offensive coordinator in like three weeks. It's see 1369 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,520 Speaker 2: only one other team that started oh to nine against 1370 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,720 Speaker 2: the first has spread since two thousand and five to 1371 01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,000 Speaker 2: the seven Niners. That's it. Yeah, if you want to 1372 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,880 Speaker 2: buy low, it's the Colts selling the Raiders. I can't 1373 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,640 Speaker 2: figure out the Raiders, and I don't think I want 1374 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:20,000 Speaker 2: to get involved with the Saturday experiment on a Sunday. Yeah, yeah, 1375 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,360 Speaker 2: I got nothing there. It is Coolts or nothing if 1376 01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:23,160 Speaker 2: you could stomach it. 1377 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,559 Speaker 4: I think the issue with the Raiders, from what I 1378 01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 4: see is that this offense with Derek Carr, where it's 1379 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,960 Speaker 4: like the ball is supposed to go to a certain place, 1380 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,479 Speaker 4: is just throwing Derek Carr off. Yeah, he's like he's 1381 01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,880 Speaker 4: like two robotic now and he's he's and. 1382 01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,519 Speaker 3: Yeah and now he's not really he's not really making reads. 1383 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,600 Speaker 4: He's just he's like making reads but to a predetermined 1384 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,800 Speaker 4: spot and then a lot of his throws are like 1385 01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:48,280 Speaker 4: unnecessarily contested. 1386 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,960 Speaker 3: It's just it's just odd. It's just it's doesn't look good. 1387 01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,360 Speaker 2: Also, before we get out of here, I did want 1388 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,840 Speaker 2: to bring up something with Raven's futures. Wanted to get 1389 01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,960 Speaker 2: your thoughts on they're they're obviously they're's looked a lot better. 1390 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,439 Speaker 2: I think it's going to improve that. They're my only future. 1391 01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:07,160 Speaker 2: As everyone listens podcast knows, if you look, it's like, 1392 01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:08,720 Speaker 2: if you look at their schedule the rest of the way, 1393 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:14,000 Speaker 2: they were by this week, Panthers, Jags, Broncos, Steelers, Browns, Falcons, Steelers, Bengals, 1394 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,800 Speaker 2: extremely easy, gonna get healthier after the bye. You saw 1395 01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:21,080 Speaker 2: the potential their defense with Bowser back. Adding Brokwan Smith, 1396 01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,680 Speaker 2: I think if you're going to buy the Ravens, you 1397 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,679 Speaker 2: buy them right now during the bye because you also 1398 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:31,719 Speaker 2: have the potential where we don't know what this Josh 1399 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,640 Speaker 2: Allen injury is as well, and if it ends up 1400 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,760 Speaker 2: being something more serious, you also have Jamar Chase out 1401 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,559 Speaker 2: for a while, and the Ravens schedule down down the stretch, 1402 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,400 Speaker 2: it's like, you know, and then you look at the 1403 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,919 Speaker 2: state of the AFC, all the injuries on the Chargers, 1404 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,920 Speaker 2: it's like, Ravens are gonna. 1405 01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:49,960 Speaker 3: Look Titans don't have a quarterback right now. 1406 01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And like with their schedule, they're going to 1407 01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,360 Speaker 2: pile on wins, and I think that their defense is 1408 01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,479 Speaker 2: only going to improve. I still want them to add 1409 01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,120 Speaker 2: another receiver at some point to Shaun Jackson will give 1410 01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,880 Speaker 2: them a little bit, but I think they still need 1411 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,360 Speaker 2: a little more juice there. But yeah, I think if 1412 01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,120 Speaker 2: we're gonna buy the Ravens, you buy them right now. Yeah, 1413 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:12,439 Speaker 2: if you like it, but you would agree, right. 1414 01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:13,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. 1415 01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:16,479 Speaker 4: I actually had that exact thought going into the Monday 1416 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,040 Speaker 4: night game. I was kind of kicking myself that I 1417 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,120 Speaker 4: didn't just like even before that, because I figured that 1418 01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:22,720 Speaker 4: was one of the reasons I liked the under in 1419 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,519 Speaker 4: that game. I was like, you know, this, this defense 1420 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,439 Speaker 4: is gonna look a lot better with what you know, 1421 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:28,599 Speaker 4: getting guys back and adding Roquon. 1422 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that's Safety's and the NFL coming 1423 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:32,120 Speaker 2: back after the bye. Marcus. 1424 01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:33,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't think. 1425 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,880 Speaker 4: I think people still are kind of thinking of the 1426 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,280 Speaker 4: Ravens as this team that's choking away weeds and giving up, 1427 01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,120 Speaker 4: you know whatever they gave up to Tua in that 1428 01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:42,880 Speaker 4: fourth quarter. But now, man, it's this Ravens teams rigital 1429 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,400 Speaker 4: I'm I'm with you. I think now's the time to 1430 01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,360 Speaker 4: invest in I mean they have a super easy schedule. 1431 01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:52,200 Speaker 3: The Eagles have a super easy schedule. It's it's interesting. 1432 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:56,559 Speaker 4: That is gonna wrap it up for the Week ten 1433 01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,599 Speaker 4: Action Network Podcast presented by Fan Duel. 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