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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast. It's comfortable learning under Chad

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Speaker 1: and welcome back to another addition in the Round League Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansens, and I'm joined by room

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Speaker 1: filled with heroes Chris Westling, Mark Zessler, and Greg rosan Thal.

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Speaker 1: What up boys? And Wow? Both Greg and Ress did

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Speaker 1: an awkward white guy fist bun. But but I'm excited too.

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Speaker 1: I just get my own white guy fist bump because

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Speaker 1: you are because West is back, Yes, back in the house.

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Speaker 1: Give me another, Hey, Dan, one more? I talked over you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how excited for the season? Fund the funds? Over Wesselen?

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Speaker 1: I know you know you've enjoyed it. You've been in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: your sheriff, Chile football is happening. Turned down for what

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Speaker 1: the man is back? How was your trip? It was so.

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Speaker 1: I ran into friends that I hadn't seen and eight

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Speaker 1: I cannot confirm did you find love over? Did I

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Speaker 1: happen at some point in society. Ego ego, real quick.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that I'm coming back to drop the

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Speaker 1: hammer on this podcast, which seemed to lack a little

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Speaker 1: discipline on Friday. Wow, what does that mean that the

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Speaker 1: we've had. So basically, you're taking a shot at Kevin Patrick.

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Speaker 1: Thank west is back to save the podcast. No one

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Speaker 1: even jumped on your weird our request for for music

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Speaker 1: further with a little bit of the pot calling the

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Speaker 1: a it's great to have you back West. We have

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Speaker 1: a big show today. Mike Tannebaum, the former Jets GM

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Speaker 1: who was also working with NFL Network right now during

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Speaker 1: their Inside Training Camp live show. He will be in

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Speaker 1: studio a little later. We're also going to talk about

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Speaker 1: some early takeaways that we've all had from camp, things

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Speaker 1: going to check in with a great t D. How

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Speaker 1: We're very good. We got the crew back together back

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Speaker 1: like they are haymakers all over the place. Let's start

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Speaker 1: with some news, just a little playing a game of football.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to work? Ready? Who was that Johnson? We

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Speaker 1: should have him ripping off some uh. I would buy

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco. Some running back issues have cropped up

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Speaker 1: in quite a beady manor. Kendall Hunter suffered an a

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Speaker 1: NFL media insider Ian Rappaport. The team later confirmed the injury,

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Speaker 1: likely ending hunter season before it began. So you had

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Speaker 1: we asked Wesleyan when he previewed the NFC West, do

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Speaker 1: you think Marcus Lattimore will make this roster? And there

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Speaker 1: that they have Carlos Hide ready to go right. It's true.

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Speaker 1: fully expect Kyle Rudolph to be a pro Bowl player

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Speaker 1: Brad Smith, and it's it's just another weapon. That's not

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Speaker 1: to say you're gonna use a weekend week out guys,

427
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Speaker 1: but you know you have three three nows. You need

428
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Speaker 1: to change the pace. He could come in, make a

429
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Speaker 1: couple of plays and that can energize the whole team.

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Speaker 1: Didn't did that get to you at all, that when

431
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Speaker 1: you're making a Tebow move that it's getting noticed from

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Speaker 1: people at the high levels of the country. You were

433
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Speaker 1: telling us a little story. Barack Obama gave you a

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Speaker 1: little agree for that. Yeah, yeah, he was one of many.

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Speaker 1: You know, so I was I was floorid. You know.

436
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Speaker 1: Two years before that, we traded for Brett Farve and

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like Brett Farve, New York Championship Games. We've

438
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Speaker 1: kind of seen it all. But the interesting thing about Tim,

439
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Speaker 1: and he's a great person. Everybody has a strong opinion

440
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Speaker 1: about Tim Tebow. Some love him, some don't. Um you know,

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Speaker 1: as he is as a person. Look, I'm privileged to

442
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Speaker 1: be a father I love the way that he turned

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Speaker 1: out as a human being. I hope my children take

444
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Speaker 1: a lot of the life lessons that Tim brings to

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Speaker 1: the table on the philanthropy that he believed, uh, you know,

446
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Speaker 1: so strongly believes in. With that said, Greg, I was shocked.

447
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Speaker 1: I knew what we were getting into, but to the level,

448
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Speaker 1: you know, even surprised us Obama. You didn't take a

449
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Speaker 1: shot back at Obama. No, but surprisingly neither did Rex.

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Speaker 1: What about now you have the Jets have Genal Smith

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Speaker 1: in there, and it's so important, I think, to nurture

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Speaker 1: a young quarterback and give him that confidence to feel

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Speaker 1: like he's the guy. And the Jets over the years

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Speaker 1: they had a tough time with we're gonna have one

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Speaker 1: quarterback and let me know for the discussion about who's

456
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Speaker 1: going to start, and then you do bring in Vic

457
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Speaker 1: and you talked a little bit about that. But is

458
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Speaker 1: it the best thing for Gino to have a guy

459
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Speaker 1: like Michael Vick breathing down your neck? I do because

460
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Speaker 1: it's competition. You know, you you in the NFL, you

461
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 1: either produce or you don't. If he's worried about Michael Vick,

462
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Speaker 1: they got the wrong quarterback there's gonna be the different

463
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Speaker 1: version of Michael Vick all the time, and if you're

464
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Speaker 1: worried about that, then he doesn't have the right makeup.

465
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Speaker 1: Another guy that you worked with closely over the years,

466
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Speaker 1: Mike Petton, obviously suddenly goes from being in the shadows

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Speaker 1: behind Rex Ryan to thrust into the spotlight because of

468
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Speaker 1: probably because of the quarterback they just drafted. What what

469
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Speaker 1: can you tell us about Petton that we don't already know?

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Speaker 1: You know, with Mike it's really what you see is

471
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Speaker 1: what you get. And I think he'll embody that division

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Speaker 1: really well. You know, he came from the Ravens before

473
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Speaker 1: he was with the Jets, obviously had a good year

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo, and they're gonna be a tough, hard nosed team.

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Speaker 1: They'll be a tough out, you know that. The question

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Speaker 1: I have on Manzel at the end of the day

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Speaker 1: in that division is he built the last? You know,

478
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Speaker 1: you look at what Kyle Shahan did with r G

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Speaker 1: three One year they went to the playoffs. Next year,

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Speaker 1: r G three gets hurt. So the question is when

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Speaker 1: Manzel gets in there, and we all know eventually he will,

482
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Speaker 1: you know, is he built to the last and and

483
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Speaker 1: that's gonna be the question they're gonna have to answer

484
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Speaker 1: to have success there. I like a lot of their

485
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Speaker 1: other pieces for the five offensive linement. We're draft in

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Speaker 1: the first or second round. That's assuming that Batonio from

487
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Speaker 1: Nevad their second round pick starts, So there's I think

488
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Speaker 1: they have a lot of talent there. And look defensively,

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Speaker 1: now that they added Pierre de Sair in the fourth round,

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Speaker 1: along with Justin Gilbert and Joe Hayden, they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: depth at corner. So they have a lot of good pieces.

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Speaker 1: Would you have been spooked as a GM to take

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Speaker 1: Manzel considering all the off the field stuff you don't issues? Yeah,

494
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Speaker 1: you know, for me, it would be more of a

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Speaker 1: football decision. If you're worried about all the noise, especially

496
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Speaker 1: in the New York market, and obviously you know Jerry

497
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Speaker 1: Rees can talk to this as well. You're not gonna

498
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Speaker 1: make any moves, you know. If you're worried about the

499
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Speaker 1: criticism and what other people are gonna think, you're in

500
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Speaker 1: the wrong line of business. At what that said, Like,

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Speaker 1: you know, you don't wake up every morning say wow,

502
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Speaker 1: who's ripping you know my butt? Today? Um? No, one

503
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Speaker 1: likes that. But you know that's when you want the

504
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Speaker 1: privilege of the job and you want the fame and

505
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Speaker 1: the adulation and everything that goes with it, there's gonna

506
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Speaker 1: be some negatives and if you don't embrace it, it's

507
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Speaker 1: it's not for you. But butt rippings are the worst. Yeah,

508
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Speaker 1: I know you haven't been listening to the show as

509
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Speaker 1: regularly as we would like and as you would like,

510
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Speaker 1: I'm sure, but we have had a running bit where

511
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Speaker 1: Chris Westley, one of our writers who's here with us today, Uh,

512
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Speaker 1: he will eat his softball pants if Brian Hoyer is

513
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Speaker 1: the week one starter. Now, he made that prediction back

514
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Speaker 1: in May, and you know it kind of made sense.

515
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Speaker 1: Now we're here in the cold light of training camp.

516
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Speaker 1: You've been watching them each day, you know, you know

517
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Speaker 1: what Mike, how Mike Petton works. Like, how comfortable should

518
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Speaker 1: we be that Wesley is not gonna die after eating

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Speaker 1: some soft Yeah. I would get a knife and four

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Speaker 1: and start those pants up. I'm betting on Hoyer for

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Speaker 1: a lot of reasons. Look at the first three weeks.

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Speaker 1: You know, Pittsburgh, New Orleans and Baltimore they got a

523
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Speaker 1: bye week, and really from an organizational standpoint, if you

524
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Speaker 1: think about it, you're so much better off starting with

525
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Speaker 1: Hoyer and taking Manzell off the bench. The inverse of

526
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Speaker 1: that is, if Johnny comes out and stumbles against those

527
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Speaker 1: first three really good defenses, it's gonna be a lot

528
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Speaker 1: harder for him to earn the trust and confidence of

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Speaker 1: those teammates. So it's really low hanging fruit in terms

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Speaker 1: of who should start in terms of Hoyer. Also, you

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Speaker 1: want to make sure Manzel earns it from making sure

532
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Speaker 1: he knows all his assignments, mental errors, and the blessing

533
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Speaker 1: Mike Patten's gonna do is make it easier on Johnny Manzel. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So I'm curious. Also, your name started popping up outside

535
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Speaker 1: the NFL, moved into sports agent work. We mentioned priority Sports. Uh.

536
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Speaker 1: Steve Kerr signed a big contract with the Golden State

537
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Speaker 1: Warriors twenty five million, hubba hubba. Uh. David Blatt just

538
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Speaker 1: signed a deal to coach the Cavs, which is probably

539
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Speaker 1: the best job in America other than being on the

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Speaker 1: A T L Podcast. I'd say you have carved out

541
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Speaker 1: very quickly a nice niche in that business. Yeah, thank

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Speaker 1: you today. Um, you know, I'm just fortunate to be

543
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Speaker 1: around a lot of good people. And uh, I was

544
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Speaker 1: fortunate to you know, be able to work with Steve

545
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Speaker 1: Kerr through the relationships and Priority Sports and Steve's a

546
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: good coach and a and a better human being. And

547
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Speaker 1: David Blatts a guy that grew up him. And it's

548
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Speaker 1: a way for me in Freemingham, Massachusetts. You know, neither

549
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Speaker 1: one of us were privilege enough to be from Wilbraham,

550
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: but despite that we've turned out. And there's a let

551
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Speaker 1: me just add that Greg Roosevelt from Mike knows it.

552
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: And you don't know if you've worked next to each

553
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Speaker 1: other for two years and he Mike Tannon Bomb, you

554
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: know we have talked over the years a little bit.

555
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: He's one of those guys. I guess that's how you

556
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Speaker 1: get to that spot. I'm not one of those guys

557
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: that has a steel trapped mayan. Every person that he

558
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: meets he remembers some little thing about them or where

559
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: they from. And yes, Wilburham the home of Friendly's ice Cream.

560
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: And we worked out something that Mike is actually going

561
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Speaker 1: to be paid in fribbles for this appearance and if

562
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Speaker 1: not in Marshall Lynch this podcast. Hello, Wait, you don't

563
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: know what a come on, basically like a milkshake. There,

564
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Speaker 1: it's a world class. It's a world class, especially flavoring involved. Yeah,

565
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: so how are you going to get that? I used

566
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Speaker 1: to be a waiter. Well, he'll be here. We'll have

567
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: it shipped in only the best Greg's procurement business. Oh

568
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Speaker 1: really that's good, that's good, very special. So yeah, so

569
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Speaker 1: are you is this like kind of your new career

570
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Speaker 1: now you can do the agent? You give me a

571
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Speaker 1: TV guy or do you have any like urge to

572
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: get back into a front office. You know, I've been fortunate.

573
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: I've always lived my life by one saying, choose a

574
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Speaker 1: job you love, you never working day in your life,

575
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: and I've been able to do a lot of great things.

576
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: So I really enjoy the agents. It's been a fulfillment

577
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: and uh really help some quality people, some notable like

578
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: Black and Curve, but a lot of guys under the radar.

579
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Speaker 1: So we'll see what the future holds. And it's been

580
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: a great run. Let me ask you one. Let's go

581
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Speaker 1: back to the Jets for one minute. Santonio Holmes a

582
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Speaker 1: guy that it's hard for me to figure out on

583
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: some level, with a couple of teams really needing wide

584
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: receiver help. Why can he not get a job right now? Well,

585
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: you know, for a number of reasons. First of all,

586
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: he helped us win a lot of games there. But

587
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: I think you'll see a number of veterans maybe signed

588
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: later in camp to paying on injuries. We've unfortunately seen

589
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: a lot of run at you know, the running backs

590
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: in terms of guys getting her from Kendall Hunter and

591
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: Vick Ballard and um. So you'll see maybe one or

592
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Speaker 1: two veteran running back signed, I would think in the

593
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Speaker 1: next couple of weeks, and then there'll be another group

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Speaker 1: of guys that will sign after opening Day when their

595
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 1: salaries won't become guaranteed. But I would think Santonio will

596
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: play in the league this year. But if he wasn't

597
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: a knucklehead, someone would have signed him, right, I mean,

598
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: how talented is he? We read collision low crossers. You know, Greg,

599
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: I can't opine with the three two decisions. Yea, No, Look,

600
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Speaker 1: he's looked he's a complicated guy. But I like Santonio.

601
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Speaker 1: He did a lot of good things, um and I

602
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: think he'll find a home complicated like that. Mr Tannebaum

603
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: has more work to do with NFL network. He took

604
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: some time out to spend it with us. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Best of luck with everything. I would like you to

606
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Speaker 1: be my agent in the future if possible. All right, hey, guys,

607
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. You know what's great, Just be

608
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: around the three of you and listen to it's obviously

609
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: you like each other, you love football, and you guys

610
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Speaker 1: do a really good job. All right, Thanks a lot, Mike,

611
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: Mike Tanabum. By the way, it has to be kind

612
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: of a weird thing when the President is talking about you,

613
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Speaker 1: like in general, like you as a human being. You're

614
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Speaker 1: at another level of just people being in the spotlight,

615
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: how to how to be tough, to be at that level,

616
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Speaker 1: certainly especially when the Tebow thing is going on. Awesome,

617
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Speaker 1: but not in in that situation. It wasn't in a

618
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: good way. Everyone kind of kind of that happened when

619
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Speaker 1: Tebow was there, which may be rightfully so. But when

620
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Speaker 1: you got Obama calling you out, Yeah right, I guess

621
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Speaker 1: Mike told us the story before he went on just that. Basically,

622
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Speaker 1: Obama made a comment like what are what are the

623
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Speaker 1: Jets thinking? And he had to keep his mouth shut

624
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: on that. You gotta have blind or something, all right,

625
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: So before we hopefully we'll get Mike back in there

626
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Speaker 1: back in the studio. He's he's a good guy. It's

627
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Speaker 1: good to have a former GM in the room. Before

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Speaker 1: we get out of here, we wanted to uh talk

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Speaker 1: about as we move closer to the regular season. Everybody's

630
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Speaker 1: in camp now getting ready for go around the table

631
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Speaker 1: and talk about some takeaways or surprises, things that we've

632
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Speaker 1: seen from training camp to this point that have jumped

633
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Speaker 1: out at you. So I figure, let's do it right now.

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Speaker 1: We'll start with the man who is fresh back from

635
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Speaker 1: since he's got a gloss Westling. What do you think, buddy, Well,

636
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Speaker 1: I'll Mike tannem I'm just set it up for me.

637
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: The biggest of Brian Hoyer except the Cleveland Browns. The

638
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: Browns haven't said that Howyer is a starter, But conventional

639
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: wisdom on all the fantasy sites on Twitter, from Mike Tannembaum,

640
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: from everybody in the media, Brian Horder is going to

641
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: be under center in week one, and it's shocking to

642
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: me that people have such short memories. Four years ago,

643
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: Cam Newton came into training camp behind Jimmy Clawson, Ron

644
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: Rivera said, look, we we hope to get some packages

645
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: where we put Cam Newton on the field behind Jimmy Clawson.

646
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: We know that at some point the season we're gonna

647
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: be using both quarterbacks. Cam Newton beat him out, and

648
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: not because he played well, because they just realized he's

649
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: he's the better player. Well, the important distinction at least

650
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: is that by all accounts, it is a competition in

651
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Speaker 1: terms of the coaches and the way they're going to

652
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: analyze these two players. They've never veered away from that.

653
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: In fact, they were ripped initially for saying it would

654
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Speaker 1: be a competence as and they've stuck to their guns.

655
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: So at least they have that. I think that all

656
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: this uh squawking about Brian Hoyer being the guy will

657
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: melt away very very quickly. At the competition hasn't really

658
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: even begun, but it has. The training camp, these practices,

659
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Speaker 1: I don't think so in any way. I don't think so.

660
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: In any way we haven't seen Johnny Manziel, who is

661
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Speaker 1: one of the listen. He does routine things well. What

662
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Speaker 1: he also does, though, on the field, is something that

663
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer has never done, and no one that's played

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Speaker 1: quarterback for the Browns has done since they've come back

665
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: in nine two days ago, Brian Hoyer had never done

666
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Speaker 1: more than face seven on seven. Let me since he

667
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: got in ato offense and repaired his knee, let me

668
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Speaker 1: kind of go halfway on the issue a little bit

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Speaker 1: because West, while you're right and what you're saying makes

670
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Speaker 1: sense to Mark that this is far from over. There

671
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: are enough signs to see that Brian Hoyer is in good,

672
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Speaker 1: good position to potentially win this job. It is no

673
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: longer absurd to think. And I know West, when we

674
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Speaker 1: talked about it heading towards training camp, a major point

675
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Speaker 1: for you was he had this major knee injury he's

676
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: coming back from that seems not to be an issue

677
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Speaker 1: at all. He hasn't face that, he hasn't face contact yet. Yeah,

678
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: but what I mean, a knee issue doesn't mean anything.

679
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Speaker 1: But he's not going to except for a couple of

680
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: quarters in the previct and he could turn out to

681
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: be an abject disaster because all week based it on

682
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: is what we're hearing right now and how the reps

683
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: are being broken down and Hoyer between happening in New York,

684
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: Michael Vicks getting a certain percentage of the first team reps.

685
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: Right now, Manzel is getting the second team reps, is

686
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: getting the first team reps, and that will change. It

687
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: will change in a week. The things that I'd be

688
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: worried about if I were us are the reports that

689
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: Manzel hasn't looked great in practice, that he may be

690
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: regressed a little bit in the off season, that there

691
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 1: is a legitimate concern with some work ethic issues, and

692
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: with all of that mixed in, if he's struggling a

693
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: little bit in camp, they're not gonna look for another

694
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Speaker 1: excuse to keep him on the bench for the first

695
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: few weeks. It's not about Man's becoming the guy. Of course,

696
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 1: he's going to become the guy. It's just week one

697
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: that we're talking about again. A week and a half

698
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: into August, people were saying the exact same things about

699
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: Cam Newt n lost practice time because of the lockout.

700
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: Different though, how is the same situation as Johnny Manzel

701
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: number one overall pick. He was both first round picks.

702
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: They both came into camp behind a very underwhelming guy

703
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: who had Jimmy Clawson had more starts under his belt

704
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: than Brian Horne. They hated him though, they didn't question

705
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: for us. Just when you look around the league, do

706
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: you feel the same level of outrage that Chad Henny

707
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: is the unquestioned starter in Jacksonville, or that you know

708
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: Matt Castle is being talking about as a guy that

709
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: you put in the bridge because why not let Manzell

710
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: to sit and learn a little bit why Jack Wars

711
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: came out and said Blake Bortles will not play. The

712
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: Browns did not do that. But if this competition is

713
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: one in their eyes fair and square by Hoyer are

714
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: a problem with that. I have a problem with the

715
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: conventional wisdom that Hoyer already has the job looked up. Laugh,

716
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: he's just the favorite. Here's what practices are four for

717
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: physical ability over you're getting nancy because you can take

718
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: let's let's cut through the malarkey here. You're a little

719
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: nervous about how confident are you that you're not gonna

720
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: eat softball pensive percentage? Right? That's down though. Look, this

721
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: is for me. It's about everybody acting like practice means

722
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: more than games. It doesn't. But he's only gonna have one,

723
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 1: He's only gonna have two games because they're gonna start

724
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: that they're going to decide after the second game. He's

725
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: not starting the first game, so maybe he gets one start,

726
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: maybe gets one quart. Maybe it does all come down

727
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: to that, but otherwise the tie is going to go

728
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: to away. Final words comes down to the preseason games. Always, Greg,

729
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: you're early camp takeaway. Well, I like that, he That's

730
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 1: why it was back in the building. One one quote

731
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: that's stuck out with me on Sunday when I was

732
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: at home more than the rest was an interview with

733
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Speaker 1: Sam Bradford uh that he had with Kurt Warner on

734
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: NFL Network where they asked him what Kenny Britt how

735
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: he's looked so far in training camp and and Bradford's

736
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: quote was, Kenny Britts really brought a lot of veteran

737
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: leadership that I think that room needed. It's been missing

738
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Speaker 1: in the past. Kenny Britt's brought it to the table.

739
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: If Kenny britt is bringing your veteran leadership, you got

740
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: some serious problems. And well, in that RAMS receiving group,

741
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 1: they have something like eight players picked in the top

742
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: four rounds over the last three or four years. They've

743
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: done everything they can to stock on who is the leader.

744
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: You don't have a single time it isn't a total

745
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: milk toast pass. It's Kenny. It's kind of like he's

746
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: not a leader. I would love to be a fly

747
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: on the wall when the Tennessee Titans coaching staff first

748
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 1: sees that quote about Kenny Britt be the leader of

749
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: the It's like when they when the Patriots brought in

750
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: Randy Moss. You know, just Britt's gonna change the whole situation.

751
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: He he is starting though, at least in practices that

752
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: and that does strike me as interests. I want to

753
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: watch them and see how that goes. Right now, it

754
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: sounds like Brian Quick and Kenny Britt hard It was

755
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: also interested to see Quick as a starter you got,

756
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: you know, I want to watch look at the A

757
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: t L team quickly distancing themselves from Gibbons, who was

758
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: I believe a making the leap kind of like Chris Gibbons.

759
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: I think in the end I'd take them over Quick

760
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: or Britt if that's what we're comparing. They're all borderline

761
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: number two receivers at best. Mark your takeaway which stood

762
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: out for me and I this is a good development

763
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. Who you know, it's gonna be tough in

764
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: that division for them to succeed. But I like the

765
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: way that they're open to the idea of Teddy Bridgewater

766
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: taking over sooner than later. There. You know, Jay Glazer

767
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: was there and said that there is in quotes, just

768
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: huge optimism at what they've seen early on. And I

769
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: the question for me was whether Bridgewater and Norv Turner

770
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: would be, despite all the pretty words, a really good marriage.

771
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: But it was Turner when Bridgewater had that awful prolo

772
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Speaker 1: where he saw some of the issues as receiver issues

773
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: on that pro day, and he obviously Bridgewater wasn't wearing

774
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: the infamous glove. He brought him around, he worked with him,

775
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: he liked what he saw and he feels like he

776
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: can run his offense well. And Matt Castle, this whole

777
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: thing of a Bridge quarterback that we talked about for

778
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: months and months utter nonsense, just like it will be

779
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: with Manzil or Frankly, I don't even think this holds

780
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: true with Boardles necessarily, any one of these guys are

781
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: gonna be on the field. Ways, why you take a

782
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: quarterback in the first Disappointed if the Vikings because I

783
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 1: thought they had a nice plan in place. They didn't.

784
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: They brought Castle back. I thought it was like making sense.

785
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: Let's let's instead of rushing every rookie quarterback into the

786
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: lineup like has happened the last few years, put Castle

787
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: in there a bit, let me let wait until Bridgewater

788
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: is comfortable bring him in by October one. It's okay.

789
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: We don't need to rush these guys. I think the

790
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: only reason Bridgewater should we start a week one is

791
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: if they are absolutely positive he can handle the playbook

792
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: and can do the job. But if they have any reservations,

793
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 1: put Castles July, and we're talking about let's be patient

794
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: and do things round weeks six or seven. When you're

795
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: a coach and your team is one in four, the

796
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: hair is on fire. That I would say, well, what's

797
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: up to what's why, what's the difference. Yeah, I'm saying

798
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,959
Speaker 1: that's up to Bridgewater if he if he deserves to start,

799
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: and he's that good. You just in too many cases,

800
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Speaker 1: I feel like these rookies just have been put in

801
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: whether they were ready or not, because they invested so

802
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: much in them that became the new thing to do

803
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and then put them in. Then Cam

804
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: Newton has the best rookie season ever. Then r G

805
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: three has the best rookie season ever. Then Andrew Luck

806
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: plays great, Then Russell Wilson plays awesome. I mean a

807
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: lot of other guys that didn't work right. That's what

808
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying. If if you're ready, you're ready. Whether there's

809
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: a good year for bad year for quarterbacks. A bunch

810
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: gets drafted in the first round, and Dan's points well

811
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: taken that only a handful of them real shoved on

812
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: the field. Blaine Gabber got pushed on the field and

813
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: three straight coaches went down because of them. I mean,

814
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: I I think they'll Bridgewater what they're saying, he's a

815
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,479
Speaker 1: little bit different. It's fair to say he has changed

816
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: their thinking because they weren't planning on him probably splitting

817
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: the reps this early. But he's been so good you

818
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 1: gotta let him play. He's the guy. And for the record,

819
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: are remember the golden days when pro a Pro day

820
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: performance meant about as much as offseason quarterback competition performance

821
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: in practices? They nothing, Um okay, finally this one with

822
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: the Jets, they seemed to be back to being the

823
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: Jets a little bit. And I'm not necessarily excited about

824
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: this as a fan, but after last year. We remember

825
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: they went into last season. I think ESPN ranked them

826
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: as the number thirty two team in the NFL. Everyone

827
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: thought they were gonna win three or four games. They

828
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: ended up winning eight games. And I think now with

829
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: a couple of signings and the and picking up a

830
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: big time safety in the draft, they're back to being

831
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: the braggadocious Jets, or, as Cessler called in his post

832
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: the latest installment in the Gang Green Braggert trilogy, Geno

833
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: Smith the Claire's He's about to be a top five quarterback,

834
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 1: which is outrageous. D Milner Uh shrugs off his uneven

835
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: first year and says that he is the best cornerback

836
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He seriously said that, and then pass

837
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: rusher Calvin Pace said that the Jets defense tells tells

838
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: the New York Daily News of the Jets defense will

839
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: overtake Seattle's as the NFL's fame finess, and I will

840
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: read off the quote, Uh, compared to the rest of

841
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: the defenses in the NFL, Man, we're the best. So

842
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: I'll just say that, I mean more excited about this

843
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: season than last season, and they over beformed last season.

844
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: But I would like it if the Jets just, you know,

845
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: be a regular team. You don't need to be You

846
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: don't need to do this right now. You don't think

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Speaker 1: they can help it. You forgot about the prequel. Rex

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Speaker 1: Ryan started camp by saying he's a great coach and

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Speaker 1: the Patriots better be worried about us. Oh, I forgot

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Speaker 1: about that. He's set in a tone. I wish we

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Speaker 1: had a video that could just show Chris Wesley's look

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Speaker 1: of disgust that he's had for the last minute. I

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Speaker 1: have five younger brothers, and this is what younger brothers do.

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Speaker 1: Mouth off. The Patriots are sitting there laughing at him.

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Speaker 1: Tom Prady never says he's the best. Rob Gronkowski never

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Speaker 1: says he's the best tight end. Bill Belichick never says

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Speaker 1: he's the best coach. Revas doesn't say he's the best corner.

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Speaker 1: You know why, because they actually are. They don't have

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Speaker 1: to prove. It's funny how little success the Jets need

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Speaker 1: to be back to thinking that they're the best. Winning

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Speaker 1: eight games has has been the equivalent of them viewing

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Speaker 1: themselves as a f C contenter. Part of it, I

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Speaker 1: mean in Gino. To be fair to Gino, he was

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Speaker 1: told about that ESPN poll where he was sitting at

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Speaker 1: number thirty two, and would you want your quarterback to say, well,

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Speaker 1: you know what, listen, I think I'm probably around twenty two.

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Speaker 1: And that's and that's where all being I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: just doing athletes. It's a good point to yourself as

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Speaker 1: a god on top of a mountain top the media

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Speaker 1: now it's it's part of covering the Jets to ask

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Speaker 1: these type of questions and sometimes they lead into comments

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Speaker 1: like this, but at the end of the day, they're

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Speaker 1: still saying it, and maybe I feel like, obviously that's

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Speaker 1: highly was a specialist. That was obnoxious. You ask me

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Speaker 1: if I have a god complex. Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 1: I am God. I mean number one cornerback. That's where

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Speaker 1: it's like, you don't you realize smart point where you

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Speaker 1: can start clevering Clyde Gates. They're going to be in

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Speaker 1: good chap. That's minutes after this thing blew up. Rich

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Speaker 1: Samine from ESPN tweeted, you know like clock where Clyde

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Speaker 1: Gates burns Milner for it's all in the wording, Because

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Speaker 1: to be a quarterback in the NFL, you have to

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Speaker 1: play with a high level of confidence in swagger, but

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Speaker 1: do you have to watch how you say things? Come on,

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Speaker 1: let's getting together, all right, guys. That's it for today's

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Speaker 1: edition to the Around the League Podcast. Welcome back, West,

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Speaker 1: It's great to have you back in the fold. Great

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Speaker 1: to be back. I'm excited about football, Yes, we all are.

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Speaker 1: We're very excited. We will be back on Wednesday to

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Speaker 1: talk more football, because that's what we do. We talk

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Speaker 1: mostly about football, a little bit of weird al and

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Speaker 1: you just sprinkle in things like that. So we'll be

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Speaker 1: back Wednesday. Until then, this is Dan Hanson signing off

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Speaker 1: for the Sizzler with Mailman the Boss and take Date.

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Speaker 1: There's a little planning game of football.